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Finding Hope | Larry Ollison · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast everyone, Mondo Gonzalez here with our
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Speaker 2: good friend Larry Alison. Welcome Larry.
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Speaker 1: It's good to be here Mondo, and we are going to.
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Speaker 2: Be talking about what I think are some fun stuff.
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Speaker 2: Larry has written a new book, Hidden Mysteries of the Bible.
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Speaker 2: Secrets have revealed aliens, UFOs, giants, time travel, multiverse, AI
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Speaker 2: and other unexplained phenomenon. Before we get there, they want
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Speaker 2: to remind everybody Larry, you're going to be joining us
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Speaker 2: in Branson here December fifth through eighth, and I think
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Speaker 2: there's only probably about forty tickets left so to join
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Speaker 2: us for our Christmas in Branson conference, So if you
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Speaker 2: can join us, please do. Otherwise, be on the lookout
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Speaker 2: for live stream. You can go to propcywatchers dot com,
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Speaker 2: check out the website and join us through livestream. We
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Speaker 2: have I think we have. I've been looking at the schedule.
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Speaker 2: We have over twenty two sakers or we have twenty
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Speaker 2: two speakers there. It's going to be pretty interesting because
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Speaker 2: this is going to be just a few weeks after
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Speaker 2: the election, yes, which will determine a lot of I
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Speaker 2: think our thinking about Israel, the world, globalism, all prophetic events,
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Speaker 2: which should be kind of fun. What are you talking to them?
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Speaker 2: Do you remember what you're talking about there?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm going to be talking about are
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Speaker 1: we all alone? And you know that hotel is a
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Speaker 1: beautiful hotel, especially at Christmas. It is decorated way beyond
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Speaker 1: what most hotels are decorated. In fact, people plan their
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Speaker 1: vacations for Christmas time to stay at that hotel. So
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Speaker 1: it's going to be an experience.
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Speaker 2: It is stunning. And you know, for those that don't know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, Larry lives in Missouri, not too far. How
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Speaker 2: far do you live for a few hours, about two
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Speaker 2: and a half yeah, hours. So we were there last
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Speaker 2: year at the hotel, and like you said, it was
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Speaker 2: that the chefs there will in the month be for
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Speaker 2: will build like ten or fifteen different gingerbread houses, and man,
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Speaker 2: they are the best I have ever seen, you know,
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Speaker 2: not that I'm a big connoisseur, but as I have
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Speaker 2: seen them, I'm like, this is incredible. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: walk in the foyer, it's got a creek running in
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Speaker 2: it and it's got this gigantic tree going up. It
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Speaker 2: really is stunnying.
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Speaker 1: Well, the United States is at a crossroad right now,
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Speaker 1: and what's going to be interesting is when we have
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Speaker 1: this conference, we will have just passed through the intersection
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Speaker 1: and we're going to know which way we're going. So
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Speaker 1: it should be a very interesting conference.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think many of the speakers already are saying, well,
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Speaker 2: I reserve the right to change my title if I
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Speaker 2: need to.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's why I was a little hesitant, because the
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Speaker 1: titles may change.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the titles may change. And I'm going to be
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Speaker 2: talking just again about Israel and what's been happening over
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Speaker 2: the past few months, and also just you know, their
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Speaker 2: spiritual condition currently, which is not good, you know, the
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Speaker 2: sense of their reception of the Lord Jesus. But we
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Speaker 2: know that Romans eleven twenty six, all Israel's going to
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Speaker 2: be saved. So I'm going to talk about, well, how
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Speaker 2: do we go from this current state of Israel, which
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Speaker 2: is very obviously they're there, but they trust in themselves,
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Speaker 2: they don't trust in the Lord Jesus, And then how
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Speaker 2: do we go from here to again that final day
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Speaker 2: Romans eleven twenty six, when Israel gets.
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Speaker 1: Said, Well, something that's really amazing that's happening right now.
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Speaker 1: Is Israel has felt they're all alone, that there's nobody
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Speaker 1: out there that's with them. And when we were in Washington,
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Speaker 1: d C. Just a short time ago, there was a
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Speaker 1: couple of Israeli soldiers that I met just outside the
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Speaker 1: capitol and they asked me what my opinion was about Israel,
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Speaker 1: and I said, well, we're here with several thousand people
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Speaker 1: who are supporting Israel. And they were so amazed because
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Speaker 1: all they saw in Israel were the protests against Israel,
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Speaker 1: and the fact that Christians are supporting Israel is a
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Speaker 1: surprise to them, and it's becoming just a little bit
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Speaker 1: something that they're excited about. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I see that too with Netanyahu, in that he understands
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Speaker 2: the value of the evangelical Christian support. Now, obviously there
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Speaker 2: are those, you know, you look at some of the
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Speaker 2: bigger denominations, Presbyterians and Methodists who are very anti Israel,
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Speaker 2: for sure, But the evangelical side, you know, the ones
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Speaker 2: that you know, like us who take the Scripture in
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Speaker 2: a serious way, in a literal way, we see a
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Speaker 2: future for Israel. So we recognize that they belong in
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Speaker 2: the land, and it's always been. It's part of the
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Speaker 2: Covenant of Abel.
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Speaker 1: There's also some people in Israel, the Orthodox, who actually
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Speaker 1: are anti Israel.
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Speaker 2: It's an amazing it is amazing. I have a picture
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Speaker 2: that you say that. I have a picture in my
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Speaker 2: presentation of a ultra Orthodox Jewish guy holding up Palestinian flag,
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Speaker 2: which is a proof of exactly what you're saying. Well,
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Speaker 2: let's get into your you get into your book here,
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Speaker 2: because you know, everybody likes a mystery, you know, And
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Speaker 2: so I remember at the time, just I don't know
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Speaker 2: if it was a year ago or so, maybe eighteen months,
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Speaker 2: you had talked to me about this, so I kind
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Speaker 2: of share why you You know, this book's a little
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Speaker 2: different than what you've written in some of the other
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Speaker 2: stuff because you've read a lot of books. Why this book.
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Speaker 1: Over the last twenty five thirty years, I've had books
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Speaker 1: on the Blood of Jesus, the power of Grace, righteousness,
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Speaker 1: and various theological themes, and even another book coming out
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Speaker 1: in January is called Finding Hope when Things Look Hopeless,
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Speaker 1: And these are they're great theological books. But over the
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Speaker 1: years I began to notice that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: are wondering about what's going on with some of these
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Speaker 1: unusual things, and how does that line up with the Bible?
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Speaker 1: You know, for example, when we find artifacts that they
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Speaker 1: say are two or three hundred thousand years old, and
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Speaker 1: the Bible tells us chronologically that Adam and Eve came
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Speaker 1: out of the garden six thousand years ago, how does
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Speaker 1: this line up? And why does science so much conflict
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Speaker 1: with Christianity? And the more I began to research it,
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Speaker 1: I began to realize that all the answers to all
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Speaker 1: these questions, whether it's artificial intelligence, transhumanism, the flat earth,
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Speaker 1: the ancient artifacts, all these answers are in the scripture.
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Speaker 1: It's just that, as a quote theologian, all of my life,
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Speaker 1: we never really look for those things. And so I
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Speaker 1: tried to put a book together that looked at it
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Speaker 1: from a scriptural angle. What does the Bible say about UFOs?
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Speaker 1: What does the Bible say about these ancient artifacts? How
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Speaker 1: is it possible that there could be monuments that were
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Speaker 1: four or five hundred thousand years old and Adam only
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Speaker 1: came out of the garden six thousand years ago? Does
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Speaker 1: that line up with the Bible? And I began to
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Speaker 1: realize that true science now there's fake science and true scripture,
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Speaker 1: and we know that there's people that teach fake scripture.
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Speaker 1: True scripture and true science actually line up. And you know,
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Speaker 1: the Bible says to rightly divide the Word of God,
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Speaker 1: and if you can rightly divide it, well obviously you
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Speaker 1: can wrongly divide it, no doubt. And so I just
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Speaker 1: took a few subjects and put them together. And the
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Speaker 1: more I researched, the more I began to realize, Wow,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot in the Bible about all of these subjects. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean we're in our current age. We have so
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Speaker 2: much interesting data, I mean from even from archaeology, and
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Speaker 2: it's fascinating to go, okay, well how does again, how
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Speaker 2: do this fit in? So, you know, the you start
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Speaker 2: off here, and this might be just a great segue.
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Speaker 2: You start off with you know, when somebody writes the
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Speaker 2: first chapter, you have a preface, but the first chapter
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Speaker 2: is kind of usually a Okay, I'm setting the stage
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Speaker 2: here to understand where I'm coming from. And you asked
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Speaker 2: the question, here are we alone? And so what does
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Speaker 2: that matter? We're talking about like you know, aliens from
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Speaker 2: you know, Zeta Reticulai. What did you mean by are
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Speaker 2: we alone?
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Speaker 1: Well, I know, as a theologian, we're not supposed to.
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Speaker 1: People don't think we watch movies or anything. But there
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Speaker 1: was a movie that came out many years ago. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing the movie. I'm just saying that there
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Speaker 1: was a science fiction movie. Actually it was written by
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Speaker 1: Carl Sagan, who was somebody who was not a proponent
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Speaker 1: of Christian thought at the least, but he wrote a movie,
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Speaker 1: and I wrote a script, and it was called Contact.
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Speaker 1: And there was a young girl at the beginning of
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Speaker 1: the show, and Foster was Jody Foster, and she was Elie,
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Speaker 1: I think, and and she was looking through a telescope
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Speaker 1: and she asked her dad, She said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: what's what's going on out here? You know? And and
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Speaker 1: are there other beings? And I forget the exact statement,
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Speaker 1: but he said, well, if we're here all by ourselves,
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Speaker 1: then it looks like it's it's a great waste of space,
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Speaker 1: and talking about the expanse of the universe. And actually
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Speaker 1: what she was asking is Dad, are we alone? And
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Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of people are asking,
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Speaker 1: of course, are we alone? And they're looking for answers,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're trying to find answers through ancient aliens.
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Speaker 1: Were we seeded by a group of astronauts from some
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Speaker 1: other existence? And and so the answer to the question,
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Speaker 1: so now you don't have to read the introduction, the
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Speaker 1: answer to the question, are we alone? No, we're not alone.
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Speaker 1: There is you know, even even people that don't believe
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Speaker 1: in Jesus, even people that don't believe the Bible, people
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Speaker 1: who say they don't believe in God. I remember hearing
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Speaker 1: a professor one time talk about how he didn't believe
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Speaker 1: in God. But then in his presentation he said that
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Speaker 1: all of this that's around us could not just be
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Speaker 1: accidentally put together. And I don't know what he was thinking,
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Speaker 1: that somehow space dust just miraculously came together here with
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Speaker 1: us what they believed, Yes, but he said there had
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Speaker 1: to be some type of intelligent design. Yes, some type
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Speaker 1: of intelligent design. And in his proclaiming that there wasn't
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Speaker 1: a god, actually he was proclaiming that there was a
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Speaker 1: God because this could not happen by accident.
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Speaker 2: I think I might have seen the same interview. It'd
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Speaker 2: be the one that I saw, and he's well known.
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Speaker 2: Michio Kaku I don't know if that was him or not,
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Speaker 2: but I heard him on years ago on Art Bell
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Speaker 2: and I would listen to late night radio. But he again,
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Speaker 2: this guy's bro. He's the one that established string theory
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Speaker 2: in theoretical physics. Well, you know when Art had asked him, well,
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Speaker 2: do you believe in God? And he said, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you're asking if I believe, like in the Christian God,
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Speaker 2: the God of the Bible, he goes, No, I can't say,
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Speaker 2: I'm there, he goes. But as I look out, I
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Speaker 2: thought this was an interesting This is like Romans won
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Speaker 2: for him. You know, he better get saved or he's
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Speaker 2: gonna be in big trouble. Because he said, well, when
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Speaker 2: I look out at the universe and I see the beauty,
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Speaker 2: you know, because I'm out taken, as you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: now taking pictures every night, every clear night, so I
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Speaker 2: know what he's talking about. And so he so he
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Speaker 2: sees the beauty of nebulae and of galaxies and all
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Speaker 2: these colors, and he understands it very well, and he goes, well,
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Speaker 2: I see the beauty, he goes. But then not only that,
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Speaker 2: but I see the complexity. You know, for him, he's
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Speaker 2: developing string theory, which he knows the laws of physics,
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Speaker 2: of course, and he's like, everything is just so mathematical,
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Speaker 2: and it's so precise, and so it's so predictable, and
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Speaker 2: it's just so beautiful.
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Speaker 1: In the numbers.
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Speaker 2: He goes. So, I mean, I don't necessarily believe in
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Speaker 2: like the Christian God, he goes, But I can't deny
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Speaker 2: that we did not get it. There's no way that
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Speaker 2: this happened by accident. There's something like you just mentioned
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Speaker 2: intelligent design behind it. Now, exactly what that looks like,
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know that there's no way. Beauty,
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Speaker 2: beautiful things don't happen accidentally.
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Speaker 1: We'll take a look at fractals. Yes, you know, from
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Speaker 1: the smallest thing that we can see to the largest
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Speaker 1: thing we can see, this this could not be a coincidence,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you look at space and and I
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Speaker 1: know that you are a premier astronomer.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm an amateur all the way.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I've taken astronomy. But when I
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Speaker 1: talk with you about astronomy, you go way over my head.
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Speaker 1: And so I don't mean to insult you with my
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Speaker 1: lack of intelligence here, but you know, when we came
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Speaker 1: out in the nineteen nineties with the Hubble telescope and
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Speaker 1: the one we have now in space che Web telescope.
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Speaker 1: It seems like every time that there's a telescope that
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Speaker 1: can go deeper into space, we find out that there's
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Speaker 1: more of what we've already seen, but more of it
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Speaker 1: more And then these places in space, you know, like
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Speaker 1: in the Nebula Oryan, in various places where we thought
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Speaker 1: at one time there was nothing. Now we're finding out
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Speaker 1: that there's literally trillions of galaxies each containing hundreds of
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Speaker 1: thousands of stars. And you know, it's just last year
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Speaker 1: I was reading. It's probably changed since then. But the
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Speaker 1: galaxy traveling at the speed of light, or the universe
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Speaker 1: traveling at the speed of light, if you went from
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Speaker 1: one end of the known universe to the other end
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Speaker 1: of the known universe, it was something like ninety four
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Speaker 1: billion light years and light traveling at white one hundred
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Speaker 1: and eighty six thousand miles per second at least currently.
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Speaker 1: And our galaxy that we're in the Milky Way, it's
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Speaker 1: not one of the biggest, you know, it's an average
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Speaker 1: home and it's one of trillions out there, and it
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Speaker 1: takes over one hundred thousand years for light to travel
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Speaker 1: from one side of our galaxy to the other side.
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Speaker 1: And our sun, which is a star, is one of
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Speaker 1: the smaller ones, and there's hundreds of thousands when you
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Speaker 1: look at the complexity of space. And then somebody says, oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: so you're telling me that the universe is ninety four
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Speaker 1: billion light years across. Oh, that's just as far as
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Speaker 1: we can say. That's observable. That's observable. And so how
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Speaker 1: great is our God when when he said light be wow,
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Speaker 1: something happened.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this brings up and I'm going to
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Speaker 2: segue into it because I think it fits well. And
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you wrote a chapter on this because I've
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Speaker 2: written a lot on this myself. Is in chapter eleven,
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Speaker 2: you dare how dare you to bring up the flat
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Speaker 2: earth theory? But you did in the book and you
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Speaker 2: had your reasons for doing that. But it it segues
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Speaker 2: into nice because in are We Alone? You know, you
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Speaker 2: bring up the complexity of the universe, and ultimately you
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Speaker 2: say no. I mean, the people can read to get
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Speaker 2: all the final details there, but we aren't alone. Certainly
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Speaker 2: God exists, We're not from a naturalistic perspective where we think, no,
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Speaker 2: all of it happened by accident. And again even this
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Speaker 2: pan spermy idea, they're just kicking the can down the road. Well,
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Speaker 2: if we got seated here on this planet by somebody else,
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Speaker 2: well who created them? And who created them? Again, it's
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Speaker 2: the perennial question, Well where did it all come from?
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Speaker 2: And where's the Big Bang? And I remember asking my
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Speaker 2: professor in college when I was taking astronomy, and I
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Speaker 2: didn't mean it this way. I said, Hey, I'm just
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Speaker 2: curious the singularity that we're discussing here about, you know,
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Speaker 2: the galactic evolution or even Big Bang evolution. Where did
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Speaker 2: the original mass? I mean, you're talking about an infinite
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Speaker 2: amount of mass in an infinite small space.
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Speaker 1: Something smaller than what we would call an atom. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Tiny, And in a.
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Speaker 1: Moment, in an instant of time, from this singularity, all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, faster than the speed of light, they say,
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Speaker 1: because there was no light for millions of years, all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the universe comes into existence, you know.
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Let's just hypothesize for a moment,
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Speaker 1: and let's just say that thirteen point eight billion years
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Speaker 1: ago it happened. Okay, well what about thirteen point nine
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Speaker 1: billion years ago? What happened before the Big Bank? Where
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Speaker 1: was God? See? I think a lot of people have
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Speaker 1: a problem thinking that God has always existed. See, you
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Speaker 1: can't write a biography on God because no matter how
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Speaker 1: far back, let's say you went back a trillion years
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Speaker 1: squared to a billion or whatever, you would be no
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Speaker 1: closer to the beginning of God than you are now
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Speaker 1: because there was no beginning.
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Speaker 2: By definition, eternity is eternity. You could always add more now.
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Speaker 1: See. But we can think in terms of eternity future
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Speaker 1: because we know we're going to be there, and we
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Speaker 1: can think in terms of time never ending. But too
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Speaker 1: many Christians think in terms of like the first line
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Speaker 1: of the Bible, you know, Hebrew Birashi Bahrah eloheim at
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Speaker 1: hashemaim Haritz, you know, in the beginning God created the
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Speaker 1: heavens and the earth. And they think, well, that was
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Speaker 1: the beginning and there was nothing before that. Whenever that
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Speaker 1: was whenever it was, and you can get into old
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Speaker 1: Earth and New Earth and all that, but whenever it
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Speaker 1: was before that, there was God. And how much of
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Speaker 1: God just as powerful then as he is right, and
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Speaker 1: without any beginning. So when it comes to the expanse
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Speaker 1: of the universe, it's difficult for people to even comprehend
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Speaker 1: that possibly the universe has no end.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so far it doesn't, but it's measureable. Here.
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Actually it does, at some place it does.
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Speaker 2: I would agree.
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Speaker 1: In Ephesians it says that when Jesus, it said, he
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Speaker 1: who descended also ascended. And I used to teach this
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Speaker 1: all the time, he who descended also ascended into heaven,
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Speaker 1: into the heavens. But that's not what the scripture says.
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Speaker 1: If you look at it real close, it says he
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Speaker 1: ascended far above all the heavens. And so I started
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Speaker 1: looking through the scripture, and this is one of those mysteries.
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Speaker 1: You know, wait a minute, if there's something beyond the heavens,
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Speaker 1: can that be? And there are several places in the
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Speaker 1: Bible where it talks about beyond the heavens. And I
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Speaker 1: found at least two verses that tells us what's beyond
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Speaker 1: the heavens. And I know this is a spoiler, but
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Speaker 1: spoiler alert, but what's beyond the heavens the scripture tells
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Speaker 1: us beyond the heavens is the glory of.
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Speaker 2: God, the throne of God.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the glory of Yeah, well what's the glory of God?
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Speaker 1: Just the manifested presence of God. So in other words,
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Speaker 1: our universe is encapsulated by the glory of God. How
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Speaker 1: big is God? He's bigger than the universe because he
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Speaker 1: surrounds it. Yeah, there's no one. I actually I often
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Speaker 1: picture that. You know, we talk about that God holds
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 2: In his hand, right, I mean, that's obviously that would
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Speaker 2: be required logically if we understand who was that that
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Speaker 2: boon that I don't even know, but I just respect.
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Speaker 2: But I think now that's not good enough. That the
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Speaker 2: universe and the ninety six billion light years that we
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Speaker 2: can observe again, who knows how big it is and
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Speaker 2: so observable there from an observable perspective, we haven't found
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Speaker 2: the limit. But as you said scripture, there is. But
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Speaker 2: I imagine God holds like this cup, here's the universe, and
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Speaker 2: here's God outside of it, and he sets it down
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Speaker 2: on his table, and there there's the whole universe that
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Speaker 2: he made, and he's sitting here outside of within his
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Speaker 2: throne and his glory and everything else, and for him
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Speaker 2: what's that that's completely reasonable for him because he's he's
20:36
Speaker 2: so grand that he could have it sitting right there.
20:39
Speaker 2: It's no big deal. But but yet, going back here,
20:43
Speaker 2: here we are talking about this expansiveness of the scripture
20:47
Speaker 2: or of the universe, which again is observable, but the
20:51
Speaker 2: flat earth theory. And again it's not that we don't
20:53
Speaker 2: love flat earth people in the sense because I know
20:55
Speaker 2: I have friends who are believers that believe in the flatters.
20:57
Speaker 2: But for them, they deny this expansive nature of what
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Speaker 2: is observable for whatever reason. But you why did you
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Speaker 2: bring it up?
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Speaker 1: White?
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Speaker 2: Talk about this here?
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Speaker 1: The reason I brought it up is because, quite honestly,
21:10
Speaker 1: I get a lot of email, and probably from this
21:13
Speaker 1: presentation i'll get more.
21:16
Speaker 2: But we'll make sure to put your email in this description.
21:18
Speaker 1: Do that people, and some of them get quite violent,
21:24
Speaker 1: they get Just this morning, I opened an email and
21:29
Speaker 1: the guy said that I was an idiot. Well, okay,
21:32
Speaker 1: well you know we can debate that for a long time,
21:34
Speaker 1: but he said I was an idiot because I didn't
21:38
Speaker 1: believe that the Earth was flat. And look, last week,
21:47
Speaker 1: last week I was with a friend who's an astronaut.
21:53
Speaker 1: He is literally an astronaut. He's been in space. And
21:58
Speaker 1: when I talked to him, and I mentioned it to
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Speaker 1: him a few months ago, we.
22:01
Speaker 2: Talked because it comes up all the time.
22:03
Speaker 1: I said, do you feel that the Earth is flat?
22:07
Speaker 1: And I could see the look on his face. I mean,
22:09
Speaker 1: he couldn't keep the grin down, but he said, he said,
22:13
Speaker 1: just trust me. He said, I've been high enough in
22:17
Speaker 1: the sky. He said that I could see the curvature
22:21
Speaker 1: of the earth, and he says, I have been around
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Speaker 1: it a few times. And I know this man. He's
22:29
Speaker 1: a strong believer in Jesus Christ. He's a good man.
22:33
Speaker 1: He would not lie to me. But from a biblical perspective,
22:40
Speaker 1: you know the scriptures that taught that they use. I
22:44
Speaker 1: had someone the other day send me a list of
22:46
Speaker 1: two hundred scriptures in proof that the earth was flat,
22:51
Speaker 1: and if you really look at those in the context,
22:55
Speaker 1: you'll see that that's not really what it's saying. Now,
22:59
Speaker 1: I'm not a Hebrew expert, although I did stay at
23:02
Speaker 1: a holiday inn once, but I will say this, my
23:06
Speaker 1: wife teaches Hebrew, and you know, sometimes we look at
23:12
Speaker 1: things superficially and and you can prove almost anything if
23:16
Speaker 1: you just look at something superficial.
23:19
Speaker 2: You really can prove a lot from the Bible.
23:21
Speaker 1: But here's something that I think we all need to understand.
23:25
Speaker 1: Most of the things that are in this book, not all,
23:28
Speaker 1: but most of the things they're not salvation critical exactly.
23:32
Speaker 2: See, this is a fun book. Yes, this is a
23:35
Speaker 2: fun book. It's meant to be fun.
23:37
Speaker 1: Rick renterd did the Fallard. Yeah, I mean and Rick
23:40
Speaker 1: sent me an email right after he got the manuscript
23:44
Speaker 1: and he said, I must tell you, this is one
23:47
Speaker 1: of the most fun books I have read in a
23:49
Speaker 1: long time, because we get into things that normally people
23:53
Speaker 1: don't talk about. But whether you believe that the earth
23:58
Speaker 1: is six thousand years old or whether you believe it's
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Speaker 1: thirteen point eight billion years old is not what determines
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Speaker 1: your eternal life. You know. The Word clearly tells us
24:08
Speaker 1: that if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ
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Speaker 1: is the Son of God, and you make him your
24:14
Speaker 1: Lord and savior, you repent, accept him, confess it, you're
24:20
Speaker 1: born again. You're a believer. And I have people say, oh,
24:25
Speaker 1: it can't be that simple. Well, actually it is, because
24:31
Speaker 1: Jesus paid the price, and he paid the price in
24:34
Speaker 1: full and many times the word tells us he paid
24:37
Speaker 1: the price in full. So if there's anything that you
24:40
Speaker 1: feel you've got to do in addition to what he did,
24:43
Speaker 1: what you're saying is, I don't think he paid the
24:46
Speaker 1: price full. I got to add to it a little bit. Yeah,
24:49
Speaker 1: But whether you believe the earth is flat or not
24:51
Speaker 1: is not what gives you entrance into heaven. You're not
24:54
Speaker 1: going to have somebody at the golden gate in heaven.
24:56
Speaker 1: You know they might stop. Hold on, just take a
24:59
Speaker 1: look at this clip board. Yep, how did you vote? Yeah, exactly,
25:04
Speaker 1: this will be The Bible does address it, and we
25:09
Speaker 1: get into it very very deep into the book.
25:11
Speaker 2: And you you know, there's a few of the things
25:13
Speaker 2: that I want to get to because which I find fastening.
25:16
Speaker 2: One of them was in your chapter five you talk
25:19
Speaker 2: about who built the ancient structures? And I want to
25:23
Speaker 2: do this now because there's so much fun things here
25:25
Speaker 2: that I'll end up listening it. But you in this
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Speaker 2: chapter you you talk about again just what we see
25:32
Speaker 2: around the world. I think everybody who is at least
25:35
Speaker 2: somewhat knowledgeable maybe you've seen a National geographic or even
25:38
Speaker 2: an Ancient Aliens program where there's a lot of megalithic
25:43
Speaker 2: you know, the mega means big lithic of stone. These
25:46
Speaker 2: these large stone structures around the world, not just above ground,
25:50
Speaker 2: but also below ground. And you had the chance to
25:54
Speaker 2: go to Malta. And I really want you to share
25:57
Speaker 2: this because I know you. You know, I've known you
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Speaker 2: for three years now and you've kind of give me
26:03
Speaker 2: a little glimpses here and there. But reading this in here,
26:05
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, I want to talk to
26:07
Speaker 2: Larry again about this because you've provided kind of a
26:09
Speaker 2: more thorough and reference. He even referenced the nineteen forty
26:13
Speaker 2: edition of the National Geographic, which I was able to
26:15
Speaker 2: find a download, and I want to read about it.
26:17
Speaker 2: But you had a chance to go to Malta. So again,
26:19
Speaker 2: there's these structures that we have above ground, whether it's
26:23
Speaker 2: you know, Stonehenge or the Pyramids or even down in
26:26
Speaker 2: South America Coustco and others. But there's also structures underground.
26:31
Speaker 2: So talk about your experience in Malta.
26:34
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll start there. How's that I was going to
26:39
Speaker 1: be speaking at a church in Malta and Bob came
26:43
Speaker 1: to me one day. We were having coffee and he said,
26:46
Speaker 1: I'm going to be going to Israel. Is there someplace
26:49
Speaker 1: would be good to stop off? And I said, have
26:51
Speaker 1: you ever considered Malta? And he said, no, I haven't.
26:55
Speaker 1: And in reality there's more megalithics, structures and temples Malta
27:00
Speaker 1: than any place else in the world. And the second
27:04
Speaker 1: oldest temple in the world is found in Malta. So
27:08
Speaker 1: I talked with him about it, and the next thing,
27:11
Speaker 1: you know, La Marzouli and Bob and I we ended
27:16
Speaker 1: up in Malta.
27:16
Speaker 2: So Malta an island in the Mediterranean.
27:19
Speaker 1: It's a European Union country and it's in the Mediterranean.
27:26
Speaker 1: There are popes that have lived there, Knights, Templar built
27:31
Speaker 1: a lot of places there. It was the most bombed
27:35
Speaker 1: place in World War Two because of its location. But
27:39
Speaker 1: it's a very unique island, beautiful, beautiful place, wonderful people there.
27:45
Speaker 1: But we were able, through a series of events and
27:49
Speaker 1: connections to go to a place called the hypergm. Now
27:53
Speaker 1: what happened back around the turn of the century. There
27:56
Speaker 1: was a man who.
27:58
Speaker 2: Was like the twentieth century nine.
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Speaker 1: He was cutting stones for a cistern. Because the island
28:06
Speaker 1: is almost solid rock and there's a series of islands,
28:10
Speaker 1: but the main island, and they're almost all solid rock,
28:14
Speaker 1: and there's a rainy season in a dry season, and
28:17
Speaker 1: so they had these places where they stored water during
28:22
Speaker 1: the rainy season, and they cut these cisterns into the
28:25
Speaker 1: solid stone. And when this mason was rock mason was
28:31
Speaker 1: cutting a stone. Instead of being able to pull it out,
28:34
Speaker 1: it dropped down and there was a cavern. And so
28:39
Speaker 1: they investigated and found out that actually underground in the
28:45
Speaker 1: stone was an underground palace. Oh wow. And it was huge,
28:51
Speaker 1: and the Department of Antiquities started doing research on it,
28:56
Speaker 1: and there were tunnels. Some tunnels were reported to go
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Speaker 1: under the Mediterranean all the way to Rome, and it's
29:06
Speaker 1: something that it's just a very unique place. In fact,
29:12
Speaker 1: they found several thousand skeletons in this palace, underground palace,
29:19
Speaker 1: hewn out of solid stone, and a lot of them
29:22
Speaker 1: had elongated skulls. And it's interesting that the bones back
29:28
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties mysteriously disappeared.
29:33
Speaker 2: Always the case, isn't it.
29:35
Speaker 1: They had some pictures, but the stone the bones went away. Well.
29:38
Speaker 1: At any rate, it's open now and by appointment you
29:43
Speaker 1: can go down into the HYPERGM and La Marzouli and
29:47
Speaker 1: my son and myself and Bob Ulrich we were able
29:50
Speaker 1: to go down into this underground palace.
29:53
Speaker 2: Now you couldn't bring right oh.
29:56
Speaker 1: The United Nations guards this and it was tighter than
29:59
Speaker 1: security at the airport. We had to take out our watches,
30:03
Speaker 1: our phones, flashlights, cameras. We couldn't take anything electronic in
30:08
Speaker 1: order to go in, and they put them in cabinets
30:11
Speaker 1: and they would give them to us when we left.
30:13
Speaker 1: And it was very low light. They had one skull
30:16
Speaker 1: on display on the inside in very low light, and
30:21
Speaker 1: I remember La Marzouli trying to get down and look
30:24
Speaker 1: at it. He was examining it. But this underground palace,
30:30
Speaker 1: there's archways, there's the oracle room. There's one place where
30:35
Speaker 1: a man can stand and speak in a normal voice,
30:39
Speaker 1: and you can hear it throughout the entire complex. You
30:43
Speaker 1: can stand a few feet away and you can't. But
30:46
Speaker 1: there's this one place in an oracle room. And for
30:49
Speaker 1: some reason, I don't know why, but a woman's voice
30:52
Speaker 1: won't carry. It has to be a man's voice. But
30:57
Speaker 1: the tunnels are so extensive. Back in the nineteen forties
31:01
Speaker 1: there was a school teacher. I believe a couple of
31:04
Speaker 1: school teachers that wanted to take their elementary classes on
31:08
Speaker 1: a field trip, and so they were allowed to go
31:11
Speaker 1: down in there and kind of explore this underground palace
31:14
Speaker 1: and some of the tributaries. They never found them. In fact,
31:20
Speaker 1: for weeks they had search parties looking for them. They
31:23
Speaker 1: went down into this palace, and they never were found,
31:26
Speaker 1: never found, never were found. In fact, what you were
31:29
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, there's an article that I was told
31:34
Speaker 1: was in the nineteen forties issue of National Geographic where
31:38
Speaker 1: they documented this about the students being lost.
31:42
Speaker 2: I just found it.
31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll find it online. I mentioned it one day
31:44
Speaker 1: and somebody researched and found the original articles and the
31:49
Speaker 1: original magazines and sent them to me, so I had
31:52
Speaker 1: them in my possession. But it's interesting the government then
31:56
Speaker 1: they sealed off these tunnels. They sealed off these tunnels,
32:01
Speaker 1: but it's interesting that these they have gagantula, they have
32:08
Speaker 1: actual places above ground. And Marzouli and oh Rec and myself,
32:14
Speaker 1: we excuse me, Bob Ulric and La Marzilli and myself.
32:19
Speaker 1: You know, we stood at some of these places that
32:21
Speaker 1: were they looked like chairs where the king and queen
32:25
Speaker 1: would set in them and.
32:29
Speaker 2: Then you're a big guy. Oh well the tall.
32:31
Speaker 1: Where the knee was was above my head.
32:33
Speaker 2: Wow.
32:34
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of interesting. These megalithic stones that were
32:39
Speaker 1: they weighed tons. We asked the guide from the United
32:44
Speaker 1: Nations from UNESCO. He said, how did they get these
32:47
Speaker 1: stones here? I mean, this is impossible. Well, there were
32:52
Speaker 1: these little round stones that were everywhere, and he said, well,
32:57
Speaker 1: they they put them on those little round stone and
33:00
Speaker 1: they rolled them. The fact that they rolled them over
33:02
Speaker 1: the ocean and several miles on these little stones that
33:06
Speaker 1: would have been crushed by these megolithic stones, it was ridiculous.
33:10
Speaker 1: It was it was the politically correct way. Well, one
33:15
Speaker 1: of the ladies that worked at UNESCO pulled me aside
33:20
Speaker 1: and she said, we know that that's not how it happened.
33:23
Speaker 1: She said, we don't have a clue the clue. We
33:26
Speaker 1: don't have a clue how they got these stones here,
33:28
Speaker 1: but we just tell that so that we'll have an answer.
33:32
Speaker 2: Well, listen, again, I have a degree in archaeology, so
33:36
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with this stuff. But all that what I'm
33:39
Speaker 2: saying is that archaeologists often will sound more confident than
33:45
Speaker 2: the data allows, and which the honest archaeologists will be like, look,
33:49
Speaker 2: we have some speculations, but there's very little things that
33:54
Speaker 2: archaeologists know for search and stuff like this. It's like, oh, yeah,
33:59
Speaker 2: we know how they built a param No, you don't know.
34:00
Speaker 1: There's a structure we talk about in the book that
34:04
Speaker 1: they estimates thousands of years older than Stonehenge, and it's
34:08
Speaker 1: it's the most accurate time device on the earth of
34:15
Speaker 1: that day. And the stones were put together intricately, and
34:21
Speaker 1: and the answer that is given on how they knew
34:24
Speaker 1: to do this, it says, well, they were farmers and
34:28
Speaker 1: they had wood instruments, and I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
34:33
Speaker 1: how did they understand the equinox? How did they how
34:36
Speaker 1: did they know all of this scientific material.
34:39
Speaker 2: Or it's just a lot of those things with bronze
34:41
Speaker 2: age copper, I mean that stuff it required. This stuff
34:45
Speaker 2: is so hard that there's no way. I mean, So
34:47
Speaker 2: this brings you you in the first part you talk
34:49
Speaker 2: about the watchers and the nuff Lame and who built
34:51
Speaker 2: the angels and stuff.
34:52
Speaker 1: And.
34:54
Speaker 2: This is part of the fun. This is part of
34:56
Speaker 2: the mystery. No one's saying this is salvation critical. But
34:59
Speaker 2: do you do you think then that these structures, for example,
35:03
Speaker 2: let's speculate here from this hypogeum very technical is all
35:08
Speaker 2: the way out?
35:09
Speaker 1: Who did this? Well? See, and here's one of the
35:12
Speaker 1: problems we run into in just generalizing everything. We have
35:17
Speaker 1: megalithic structures, and some of them are two or three
35:22
Speaker 1: thousand years old, some are eight thousand years old, some
35:26
Speaker 1: are five thousand, some they say are one hundred thousand.
35:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, they make a lot of claims.
35:30
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing what we have to analyze, and
35:34
Speaker 1: this is where I really love getting into it scripturally,
35:37
Speaker 1: is who was on the earth at that time. You know,
35:41
Speaker 1: there's one structure we talk about it in the book
35:44
Speaker 1: that it says that it gives it how old it is. Well,
35:47
Speaker 1: if you go back in chronological time from the Bible,
35:52
Speaker 1: you find out that when they believe that was built,
35:55
Speaker 1: Adam was four hundred years old and the flood hadn't
35:57
Speaker 1: taken place. So was was it built before Adam left
36:02
Speaker 1: the garden? Or was it built from the time that
36:05
Speaker 1: Adam left the garden and before the flood when we
36:08
Speaker 1: had the nephaline and giants and the watchers, or was
36:13
Speaker 1: it built after the flood when we had we still
36:17
Speaker 1: had nepheline. Remember Goliath and his brothers says that they
36:21
Speaker 1: were descendants of the Nephylene. They weren't as large as
36:27
Speaker 1: the nepheline before the flood. And we get into why
36:30
Speaker 1: is that. You know, the the legends that have been
36:38
Speaker 1: passed down from generation to generation, the Greek legends and
36:43
Speaker 1: even on Malta, how did they move the stones? Well,
36:46
Speaker 1: there's a legend on how they moved the stones and
36:49
Speaker 1: there was a goddess and we won't get into all
36:53
Speaker 1: of the details, but she was a giant and she
36:57
Speaker 1: carried the stones in is the quote fairy tale story,
37:03
Speaker 1: but possibly rooted in a little nugget of true truth.
37:10
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Greek gods. When you look
37:13
Speaker 1: at some of the attributes of the Greek gods, gods, dating,
37:19
Speaker 1: mating with earth people, half human, half animal, demigods and others. Yeah, chimeras. Yeah,
37:25
Speaker 1: it actually lines up with a lot of things that
37:28
Speaker 1: are in the Book of Enich for example. So even
37:33
Speaker 1: though they're mythological, they could be rooted in some truth.
37:38
Speaker 1: But what does the Bible say? And that's that's what
37:41
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get into with this.
37:43
Speaker 2: Book, Yeah, you're looking at You're looking at all these
37:46
Speaker 2: different ideas and then looking back to scripture and say
37:49
Speaker 2: can we can we bring some sort of connection there.
37:53
Speaker 2: You also talk about UFOs in the Bible, and this
37:57
Speaker 2: is probably one of your most important chapters, I think,
38:01
Speaker 2: because what we're seeing now in our current age, at
38:04
Speaker 2: least from twenty seventeen on, we see this level of
38:07
Speaker 2: disclosure that's happening not just with Tucker Carlson but in
38:11
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, but others getting into our Congress now is
38:15
Speaker 2: having meetings about UAPs. They're bringing in whistleblowers who are
38:18
Speaker 2: pilots who've seen these things themselves. They're like, this is
38:22
Speaker 2: not our technology at all. They see them going and
38:26
Speaker 2: documenting with their with their not only raidar, but with
38:28
Speaker 2: their cameras flying and going into the water into the ocean,
38:32
Speaker 2: like they're going from the sky directly in the in
38:33
Speaker 2: the water. These are these aren't just lights in the sky.
38:36
Speaker 2: These are actual They're being recorded with their radar, which
38:40
Speaker 2: means they're physical. And so the world that we're living
38:43
Speaker 2: in now is pretty amazing. With the Finally, the United
38:47
Speaker 2: States government is they have departments now that are designed
38:53
Speaker 2: the a tip department, et cetera to follow these things.
38:57
Speaker 2: So for a Christian, I think this is where there's
39:01
Speaker 2: value here, because a Christian's out there and maybe you
39:04
Speaker 2: have a secular friend who's watching this and is intrigued
39:06
Speaker 2: by it. Find it's fastening. I find it fastening. And
39:09
Speaker 2: they come to the Christian and go, well, hey, you're
39:11
Speaker 2: a Christian. You're supposed to have all the answers, you know,
39:14
Speaker 2: or at least some of the answers for the big
39:15
Speaker 2: questions of life. What's going on with these.
39:18
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the Bible says that we're going to
39:20
Speaker 1: be dealing with powers and principalities and wonders in the sky,
39:25
Speaker 1: and you know, we have to ask ourselves this question,
39:30
Speaker 1: are they good or are they evil? Well, once again,
39:34
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the ancient artifacts and structures. Who
39:39
Speaker 1: built them? Well, it depends on when they were built
39:41
Speaker 1: and who was on the earth at the time they
39:43
Speaker 1: were built. Well, when we talk about things that we
39:47
Speaker 1: see wonders in the sky, are they good or are
39:50
Speaker 1: they bad? Well, it depends on who they are. And
39:55
Speaker 1: I always like to ask this question because I'm kind
39:59
Speaker 1: of technological kind of guy, and and I don't know
40:03
Speaker 1: if that's good or bad. But but my first computer,
40:07
Speaker 1: uh in our ministry was an Atari nice you know,
40:14
Speaker 1: but but I I've always enjoyed technology, and I've wondered
40:19
Speaker 1: this is their technology in the realm of the spirit?
40:23
Speaker 1: Is their technology in heaven? And somebody would say, well, no,
40:27
Speaker 1: there's there's no technology in heaven. Why would why would
40:30
Speaker 1: we need technology in heaven? I mean, after all, you know,
40:36
Speaker 1: if an angel wants to be somewhere, they just they
40:39
Speaker 1: just appear. Well, but then what does the Bible say? Yeah,
40:44
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting that this craft that came down
40:46
Speaker 1: and who was it? They had this craft? Who saw it?
40:52
Speaker 1: And there's just little things when it describes it that
40:56
Speaker 1: makes you wonder. You know, it talks about beings and
40:59
Speaker 1: it you know, they had four faces and I've met
41:03
Speaker 1: some people with two amen, but it talks about the
41:08
Speaker 1: beings in the craft and evidently they were from God.
41:14
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't an evil craft. Why would they
41:18
Speaker 1: need it? Why would they need a craft? Right? I mean,
41:23
Speaker 1: what was the purpose of the craft? And then he
41:26
Speaker 1: describes a wheel within a wheel. Now you're too young
41:30
Speaker 1: to have this kind of a toy. But when I
41:32
Speaker 1: was young, one of the one of the great toys
41:35
Speaker 1: we had was a gyroscope. And you had this wheel
41:39
Speaker 1: and you put the string around the wheel and it
41:42
Speaker 1: was inside of another wheel and you would spin it.
41:44
Speaker 1: And then that gyroscope would fit on the head of
41:47
Speaker 1: a pen or something, and no matter which way you
41:50
Speaker 1: would turn, it would stay level. And gyroscopes to this
41:53
Speaker 1: day or what are used in spacecraft, helicopter, submarines. My
41:58
Speaker 1: granddaughter's on a submarine in the Navy, and submarines use gyroscopes. Well,
42:04
Speaker 1: what is a gyroscope. It's a wheel within a wheel
42:09
Speaker 1: and it can move in any direction without turning, just
42:14
Speaker 1: like it describes there. But it brings us back to
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Speaker 1: the question, then why did they need the craft? What
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Speaker 1: was the purpose of a craft? You know, when the
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Speaker 1: prophet was standing there with his assistant and they were
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Speaker 1: surrounded by the Syrian army, and the prophet said to
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Speaker 1: his assistant, he said, don't sweat this situation. There's more
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Speaker 1: with us than there is with that. And you know,
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Speaker 1: the assistant I can picture him thinking, Okay, this guy,
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Speaker 1: there's thousands out there, and then one two, you know,
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Speaker 1: how does this work out?
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Speaker 2: Got?
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Speaker 1: But then the prophet said, Lord, open his eyes so
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Speaker 1: he can see what's really here. Well, when his eyes
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Speaker 1: were open and he can see into the realm of
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Speaker 1: the spirit, he saw the armies of God in what
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Speaker 1: chariots of fire? Why would they need chariots? What do
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Speaker 1: we have in the realm of the spirit. That's why
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Speaker 1: do we need angels climbing up and down a ladder?
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Speaker 1: Why do they need a ladder? You know, it's one
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Speaker 1: of those things where we need to think outside of
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Speaker 1: our predetermined box that we get into sometimes as Christians
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Speaker 1: we limit God and we God is a creator, I
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Speaker 1: mean he just he created everything. You know, the Word
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Speaker 1: the Bible tells us in the beginning in John it says,
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Speaker 1: in the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God,
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Speaker 1: and the Word was God. And then it goes on
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Speaker 1: to say in verse fourteen it tells us that Jesus
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Speaker 1: is the Word. But it says everything that was made,
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Speaker 1: that's made, it was made by the Word. So God's
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Speaker 1: a creator. Well, he created us in his likeness and
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Speaker 1: his image. And we find that almost everything here on
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Speaker 1: earth is a mirror of what's in heaven, you know,
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Speaker 1: right down to the ark of the Covenant. Yep, exactly.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's the original arc of the Covenant in heaven,
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Speaker 1: and then, as it tells us in Hebrews, there was
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Speaker 1: the copy here on earth, the one Indiana Jones carried around,
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Speaker 1: you know exactly. But so if God has us his
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Speaker 1: created being with technology here, who's to say that there's
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Speaker 1: not going to be technology and endless discoveries in heaven And.
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Speaker 2: The universe is certainly big enough for an endless discovery.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's so much here that we didn't get into.
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Speaker 2: But how do we You know, you wrote an epilogue here,
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Speaker 2: and I mean, I don't think it's fun to go
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Speaker 2: through all these things, but there is a goal. You're
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Speaker 2: pointing everybody to something. What are you pointing him to? Ultimately?
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Speaker 1: Well, the ultimate truth is God's word is true. God's
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Speaker 1: word has all the answers, and God is the answer.
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Speaker 1: And people are wandering around on this earth with questions,
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Speaker 1: and because of the questions, we have depression and suicide
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Speaker 1: and sickness and disease, and people are looking for an answer.
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Speaker 1: God has the answers. You know, It's kind of like
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Speaker 1: the assistant to the prophet. You know, he was looking
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Speaker 1: with his natural eyes and he couldn't see any help.
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Speaker 1: But there was help, he just couldn't see it. You know,
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Speaker 1: the Bible tells us that as believers, that we should
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Speaker 1: walk by faith and not by sight, and breaking it
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Speaker 1: down simply so that we can understand it, because that
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Speaker 1: sounds real churchy, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: Mind?
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Speaker 1: Do we walk by faith and not by sight? But
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Speaker 1: that means walking by faith just means we live our
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Speaker 1: lives based upon what God says. You know, we believe
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Speaker 1: God more than we believe what we see, because, like
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Speaker 1: that prophet's assistance, many times we look around and we
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Speaker 1: see defeat. But if we could see things the way
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Speaker 1: God sees them, then we could see the victory. And
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that is a theme
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Speaker 1: through this book is that man is constantly, through transhumanism
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Speaker 1: and various things, looking for eternal life. Who was the
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Speaker 1: guy poem stilly on? You know, he was looking for
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Speaker 1: the fountain of youth, and some people say that he
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Speaker 1: is really looking for gold, But the fountain of youth.
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Speaker 1: All the people who were with him, regardless of what
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Speaker 1: he was looking for, all the people with him, they
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Speaker 1: wanted to find the fountain of youth. Transhumanism, what's that
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Speaker 1: that's just trying to live forever. You know, I talk
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Speaker 1: about the baseball player. I'm not going to mention his
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Speaker 1: name here, but he was one of my heroes when
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Speaker 1: I was a little kid, and I remember going to
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Speaker 1: Municipal Stadium in Kansas City and watching the Boston Red
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Speaker 1: Sox come in and watching him play. And he was
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Speaker 1: a big deal. But when he died, he had his
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Speaker 1: body frozen in liquid nitrogen, so that at some point
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Speaker 1: in time in the future, when technology advanced enough, he
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Speaker 1: could be unfrozen and come back to life. Oh what
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Speaker 1: is that? That's the search for everlasting life. Well, we
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Speaker 1: have everlasting life available. Where's it available? It's available in
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Speaker 1: the Word of God.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that really is the goal. Some
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Speaker 2: of the other topics that we can't get into time
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Speaker 2: travel again, artificial intelligence, time travel, multiverse, climate change, Chevin Hall, eternity,
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Speaker 2: even the mystery of the Hebrew language. You have a
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Speaker 2: lot here, and I encourage everybody go to prophecywatches dot com.
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Speaker 2: You can get Larry's book.
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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question before we close.
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Speaker 1: Has time always existed? It's a trick question, all right,
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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to put you on the spot,
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Speaker 1: I'll give you the answer. You know, I always thought
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Speaker 1: that no matter how far back you go in time,
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Speaker 1: at least there's going to be a measurement of time
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Speaker 1: as we know it, because certainly time has already existed.
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Speaker 1: And then these little nuggets that you find in the violence.
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Speaker 1: Titus one too has one phrase it talks about how
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Speaker 1: God can't lie. But in that phrase it says before
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Speaker 1: time began. So if time had a beginning, that means
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Speaker 1: the day before it had its beginning, it didn't exist.
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Speaker 1: So little nuggets like that are hidden all through the
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Speaker 1: Word of God.
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Speaker 2: This is what I find again beautiful and fun. And
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Speaker 2: to have a book like this is one of the
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Speaker 2: things you just share. And I think God desires for
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Speaker 2: us to continue to be thought provoking or just that
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Speaker 2: we ponder things. I mean, He made us to be
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Speaker 2: this way. And so anyway, Larry appreciate your time today.
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Speaker 2: Thanks everybody for listening to the podcast and again join us.
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Speaker 2: Larry will be there myself as well, Lord Willing in
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Speaker 2: Branson December fifth through eighth. We hope to see you
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Speaker 2: there or through livestream, and thanks for listening today and
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Speaker 2: we'll catch you next time.