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#195 - Neko Ferro - Actor, NYC · The Chris and Mike Show

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  In the corner. Dub Bears, The bears, the Cubs.
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  They never said the Cubs. It was just Dub Bears.
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  I don't know, that's an interesting.
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  Question. Hey.
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  And he's and Nico's in New York, which is kind of cool.
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  You a Giants fan? I, I'm more of a soccer guy, but
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  I, I actually for, for American football, I kind of like the,
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  the, the Green Bay Packers. I don't know, they're just,
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  they're just fun. Oh, now we're not I.
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  Don't. I don't, I don't.
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  That's it For for wrapping up. It's been a.
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  Great show ladies and gentlemen. For.
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  Joining. So Guinness, pick a world
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  record. Quickest show ever for the Chris
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  and Mike show. A little healthy competition
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  never hurt anybody. Yeah, he's a Giants fan, so.
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  OK, what are you doing? I don't hate any team at all.
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  I don't. Either.
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  Yeah. Welcome to the show, boys and
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  girls. This is Chris, He's Mike.
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  So if you go to any of those, you can, you can actually catch
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  us here live with Nico Farrow, an actor from New York who came
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  to us via Beverly Brock, the Brock the Brock Talent Agency.
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  Is that what it's called? Brock Agency Incorporated.
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  She she like. Damn it, Sorry Beverly, my bad I
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  had to make. Sure.
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  That I put it right on the actual podcast.
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  So I committed it to memory. Yeah.
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  Thank you, Beverly, and thank you.
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  For coming, Nico, welcome Beverly Rocks.
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  So we're taking a we're taking a 30 foot, a 30 floor elevator
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  ride. Nico, who are you?
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  Why are you here and what are you all about, man?
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  Well, I, I am Nico Farrow. I'm, I'm an actor, been living
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  in New York for about 8 years now.
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  Beverly is my, my agent. That's what you had her
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  recently. So she submits me for TV, film,
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  that sort of thing. And I am, that's all I'm about.
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  It's pretty much all I do is is acting, weather, training,
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  submitting, auditioning. It's like it's an obsession.
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  So that's I'm all about acting. But also you could see behind me
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  like, you know, action figures and stuff.
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  So I got, you know, nerdy things, video games, that kind
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  of stuff. Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
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  Nothing wrong with that at all. How old were you when you got
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  into it, Nico? Well, gosh, people have asked me
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  that before. And it's like, you know, like
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  how did you know you wanted to do and things like that?
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  I mean, when I was four years old, I was, I wasn't watching
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  Star Wars and like, you know, what's it called?
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  Labyrinth and Dark Crystal, stuff like that.
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  I was watching the making of Star Wars, Labyrinth and Dark
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  Crystal. Like I was obsessed.
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  I found like a VHS tape of like, you know, George Lucas making
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  Star Wars and the puppets and behind the scenes.
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  Same with the puppets of Dark Crystal.
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  And I just would not stop watching it to the point my
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  parents got worried about me. So I've been there.
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  Like watch something else. Like no, no, but I just love
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  seeing it wasn't just the acting, it's just the magic of
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  it. Like all these people like a
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  band, you know, like some people.
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  It's not just the people playing the instruments, it's setting up
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  the lighting and transporting everything and handling ticket
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  sales. So I just, I started there, but
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  didn't really start training seriously until my 20s.
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  So it was just like a thing that was burnt, you know, kind of
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  burning and then just kind of popped around there.
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  And how old are you now, to put in perspective?
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  Oh no, this isn't. This is an actor thing.
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  We're not supposed to say our age.
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  Like, really, yeah, you're supposed to say your age range
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  as long as you can get away with it eventually, once you get
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  famous enough, you can kind of like it's hard to escape it.
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  And even there's many actors who people suspect lied about their
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  birth date, you know? But I play age range, like 30 to
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  40 is about the range I'm playing it right now, so I'll
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  leave it at that. And I'm sure with enough.
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  OK. So so so looking at Mike and I,
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  what age range would I play? Oh gosh, see there's a
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  different, but Hollywood see certain ages and certain like
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  when they say like for example, 40, they imagine like like white
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  hair and things like that. But in real life it's not like
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  that. So I I would say, Chris, I'm not
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  as good like an agent, but yeah, I would say like like like early
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  40s range because Hollywood wouldn't see you if you try to
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  play and. I have the ability to wear wigs
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  too, you know. Yeah, that's right.
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  Hair will make the wigs will make these look different into
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  absolutely. Yeah, yes, and with him.
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  Yeah, and Mike could play a little younger.
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  You look younger, I would say like you.
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  That's my good side. Yeah.
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  I mean, I would say same as me like probably like 30s to early
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  40s, but I don't know. I'm not a, I'm not a casting
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  director. I'm only slightly younger than
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  him and we can talk about our age because we're musicians.
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  We're both in our 50s. Yeah.
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  Oh, that's good. There you go.
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  You look younger than than. Than I'm I'm actually 56.
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  And you know what? Now that Chris did that
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  experiment, that totally puts your why you don't want to say
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  your age into perspective, right?
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  Yeah, because Chris could still play an early 40s actor and he's
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  almost 15 years older than that, and I could play the same as
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  you, and I'm closer to him than I am to you, probably.
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  Yeah, that's a trip. Yeah.
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  So like you kind of realize your age range once you like start
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  getting auditions that come in that say age range X, etcetera,
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  etcetera, OK. It's hard to figure it out on
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  your own until the casting director start bringing you
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  stuff. OK.
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  And but yeah, I started with background work, which is like a
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  path many people start on the you.
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  Never really talked about that. Yep.
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  Yeah, it's really fun. Like if you're not like super
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  interested into acting, anyone who's listening out there, but
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  it's just kind of curious, like a tourist background work is so
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  much fun. You you're going to be right
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  next to the big stars, big celebrities, big directors.
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  You get to be a small part of a major movie.
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  And if you're lucky, you'll be singing.
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  Most of the time you're a blurry guy in the background.
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  But if you're lucky and you get what they called featured where
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  you can, they can recognize your face and like, hey, that's nice.
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  Like you're walking through an office or something and you can
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  clearly see that you're walking through the office, that kind of
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  scene. Yeah, I was lucky.
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  I I had, you can see me in in Veep season 1.
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  I think it's episode 4 as a featured background, you know,
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  where I'm I'm interacting. I got, I got put in front of the
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  camera and I was so excited about that when I got that.
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  And then that was Netflix. The what's it called?
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  Why am I spacing? Kevin Spacey?
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  OK. Yeah.
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  Yeah, why am I spacing on that one?
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  Well, it's awesome. Spacey House of.
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  Cards. Thank you.
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  House of Cards. I was living in Maryland at the
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  time and they, they they filmed there in a giant sound stage,
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  just absolutely enormous to replicate the White House and
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  everything. Oh, cool.
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  Yeah. And I got a scene with with
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  Kevin Spacey, like kind of before, like all the things
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  happened on that show. So, yeah.
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  But it was, it was awesome. That show was still outstanding.
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  I had a lot of fun. So how how was it working with
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  Kevin? You know, it's kind of funny.
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  Everyone tried to make him laugh.
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  Like he's very serious on on set and, you know, Robin Wright,
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  everybody on set was just kind of like just trying to goof with
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  him and he just wouldn't break, you know, not like in a grumpy
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  way. He's just kind of like.
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  He was in character. Yeah, Yeah, he was.
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  And and that this is before I took a lot of intensive acting
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  training. So I didn't like, now I get it.
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  Back then I was OK, exactly what you were saying, but I don't, I
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  don't do background anymore. There's a point where you kind
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  of like as you get into the big leagues that you kind of, it
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  might hurt you. Like if you get featured
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  background on like Law and Order, you might now you might
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  not be considered for a series regular or a guest star role or
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  a Co *. Why is that?
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  Yeah, because you're already established.
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  So if you were established as a police officer and then now
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  it'll confuse the audience. Type casting.
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  Well, you're sort of established as a character.
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  Like if you're a lawyer now, all of a sudden you want to cast you
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  as a terrorist. It's kind of weird.
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  You know, it's like, wasn't that guy a lawyer last week?
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  And, you know, it's not always the case.
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  I do know people who did do exactly that, like, you know, 10
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  seasons ago they were a police officer, but that was so long
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  ago, nobody cares. And then they got a costar role
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  that's totally different, like a criminal or whatever.
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  So you really have to be careful how far you go into whatever
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  commitment, the background acting or, you know, if you
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  aspire to be a guest star or a lead actor, you're saying you
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  just don't want to do too many of those same kind of parts.
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  Yeah, it's it can also be kind of like, why are you doing that?
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  You know, like when I was first trying to get an agent and I
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  won't say which agent, but I was interviewing and on my resume,
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  on my resume, I listed it. I was I I No, I wasn't sorry.
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  I'll be sorry, it made me like. It was AI was a stand in for
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  Pedro Pascal and Wonder Woman. The the second one, Wonder Woman
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  84. And I thought that was cool.
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  So I put it on the resume and the agent.
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  Yeah, right. I thought, OK, it's worth
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  bragging about. It's a little like and then and
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  then the the prospective agent looked at my resume and said,
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  why do you have this? And I said, because it's kind of
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  cool. She said never put anything non
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  speaking. It doesn't exist.
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  No one will take you seriously. Don't do it.
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  And she didn't sign me, but I I learned an important lesson.
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  I went right after that and scrubbed my resume of anything
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  non speaking background. OK.
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  OK, so that was true. OK, so yeah, so I'm gonna say,
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  is my question accurate? That was true.
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  You don't put that stuff in there.
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  You. Yeah.
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  You don't? Yeah.
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  Because I want to know. I want to know what it was like
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  being a standing. Because basically from what I
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  understand, you know, from watching TV my entire life, a
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  standing is when somebody goes stands in that actor's place
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  where there's just in the lighting and shit, maybe remake
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  upping, maybe he's got AP, one of those things, but you're
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  basically standing there holding the space.
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  And the only reason I know that Nico is because that Seinfeld
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  episode where Kramer and the Midget dude Mickey were
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  standings for the soap opera. And I'm like, I wonder if that's
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  accurate. I've never seen that episode.
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  I've seen a lot of Friends episode with Joey's acting but I
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  haven't seen that one. Yeah, I didn't know if that was
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  accurate, so that's cool. That's accurate.
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  That's also where they do rock, paper, scissors, and rock always
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  wins. Yes, yes.
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  It's absolutely accurate, yeah, the the stand in and you you
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  kind of do the scene like you don't have to say the lines, but
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  they might have you like, you know, enter the door, walk over
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  here, you know, pick this up. So it's a really fun way besides
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  background acting to get your feet wet, like being directed
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  and kind of being standing literally because they put you
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  in the same clothes usually, you know, so that so you.
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  So the lighting and stuff always the same.
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  Yeah, and you don't have to look like the actor.
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  You just have to be pretty, like similar skin tone and similar
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  height. And you know, hair color helps
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  and. Makes sense?
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  Yeah, it's not a double. It's a little that's a little
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  different. Yeah, a double S more for stunts
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  and and nudity, right? That kind of thing.
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  Oh, there's a lot of like, yeah, there's a episode of Friends
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  that were Joey's like I think Al Pacino's butt double and he
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  overacts with his butt. Yeah, I might have the actor on
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  that He did this the the the butt episode on, but I love that
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  one. Yeah, right on Hua.
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  Yeah, yeah. You know, it was Al Pacino.
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  I just looked it up. It was Al Pacino's butt.
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  I thought you were right. I didn't want to come into it
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  because I'm not as familiar with Friends as I am Seinfeld.
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  Yeah, no, yeah, Al Pacino. That's cool, man.
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  Yeah. So what have you?
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  Have you, have you done any like TV film work aside from, you
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  know, the background stuff and the featured roles?
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  So now like I'm like at the stage where I'm getting like
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  life changing additions where like you come to it.
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  Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah.
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  And it comes in and you're you're kind of like, wow.
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  Like if I get this, it's completely changed my life.
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  Once you start getting those additions, you're just the first
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  time. I mean, the first time I got my
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  first Co star audition for Law and Order.
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  And that's like a that's a rite of passage for every actor in
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  New York or LA or whatever. Really.
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  I freaked out. I like I did like like 48 takes
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  with my my poor friend Felipe. Felipe, if you're out there,
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  thank you. Because I just want to.
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  And it's, you know, it's like one line, you know, like.
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  What was your line? Yeah, I mean, it was it was more
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  than one. It was like like a page.
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  I already forgot. It was like saying like there
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  they were. I forgot what episode it was.
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  They were talking about some horrible crime because it's law
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  and order. And I'm like, oof, that was a
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  horrible crime. And like, yes, Sir, it was very
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  horrible. Like, so why is CSI handling
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  because blah, blah, blah. All right, we'll come this way.
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  I want to introduce you to Detective so and so.
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  So it was like it was a it was a chunky scene.
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  I'm exaggerating that it was 1 live, but I just mean it wasn't
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  like a lot of emotion. It's what it's what the.
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  I call it a procedural like. Okay.
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  The acting training I took in New York focuses on all these
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  procedural shows like Law and Order and CIA, FBI, because
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  that's the meat and potatoes out here for TV acting for.
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  Them as well. Okay, so procedural if you can.
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  Correct me if I'm wrong, you gotta somehow segue from this
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  scene to that scene. So you're kind of bridging the
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  gap between the tube with the procedural dialogue like, hey,
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  OK, we've established this guy was a was a freaky ass
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  motherfucker. Criminal killed people, cut
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  their heads off and shit. Now you're like, why isn't these
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  people handling this? And you kind of go that way Is
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  that is that kind of? I mean the dictionary
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  definition, I, I just looked at it to make sure I get this
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  right. It's a television genre where a
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  problem is introduced, investigated and resolved
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  entirely within a single episode.
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  OK, so it's so it's not necessarily like like the
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  prestige television where you know, it takes like 8 episodes
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  to resolve the. Problem right?
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  Right. And I mean, my understanding of
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  procedural is like cop shows. That's what I always thought,
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  that it doesn't necessarily have to be cop.
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  I mean, by that definition I guess Star Trek was procedural,
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  but I don't know. Yeah, because they were solving
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  a problem at the end of every episode.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  Or Muppet Babies. I don't.
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  Know so Gilligan's Island was procedural.
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  Technically, that was. My.
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  Yeah, but yeah, so like I'm at the point where I'm getting all
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  these additions and I'm like, I'm just, I get so close and I'm
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  like, not the the the best thing that I've done that that I can
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  kind of plug while I'm on your show is Jesus Land.
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  It's a feature film. It's not out yet, but the
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  trailer's out on YouTube at anywhere you can search it.
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  That one with Juliette Lewis from the Natural Born Killers.
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  Ella Anderson. Yeah, she's such a great actress
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  and so kind. And Ella Anderson, who just was
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  with Hugh Jackman and Song Sung Blues.
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  She was named Variety magazine's like top ten actress to watch.
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  I think at 2025. She's like up and coming like
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  really, really talented actress. If you haven't seen her work,
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  she blew it out of the water in In Song Sung Blues.
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  Is Jesus land one word or two? I should know that I'm pretty
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  sure it's 2 words, but let me check.
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  I have to. I have my trusty computer in
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  front of me. I wouldn't.
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  I do too. I do.
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  Too, I was. Gonna I found.
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  I found it. I found it.
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  Is it 2 words? Yeah.
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  So it's based on a book, a true story by the author Julia
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  Shears, and it's just about her time in the.
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  It's set in the 80s and it was she had very strict upbringing
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  and they sent her away to like a camp in, I forgot what island.
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  It was like Dominican Republic, I think, and to, you know, no,
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  thank. Thank you.
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  There's a trailer. Yeah.
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  Yeah, there's her. Yeah.
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  She's great. I'm not in the trailer but I'm
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  in the movie Hunter after. Crossing into adulthood.
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  Two more Oh come on, who produced this three years till.
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  We're 18. We'll make it there.
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  Look. How?
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  If this is a big budget movie, they'll pull us off YouTube.
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  Dude OK, bless those boys are. I'll just, I'll cut.
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  It is this an independent film? Yeah, it's it's it's, yeah,
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  defined as independent as in see.
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  This is another one. Are they going to be upset if we
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  play this trailer? I don't want to.
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  Turn this off. Turn this on.
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  YouTube. I turned, I turned the volume
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  off, dude, I turned the volume off.
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  Oh, no, I want to ask him. I'm, I'm just asking him if we
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  can play it so that people, oh, I got you here because nobody
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  didn't hear it. That's listening.
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  OK. It's it's, I just don't want to
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  get his episode pulled. No, no, no.
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  It's a. They mess up their lives.
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  Super sex, drugs and alcohol. Hey, that's it, young lady.
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  It already gives me chills. Yeah, that's like, that's not a
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  good day. With the rod no versus bad news
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  and deliver his soul. From hell.
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  Stay away from him. Yeah, stay away from him.
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  Oh, what the blankety blank, blank.
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  This is a true story. Too love him a.
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  Little bit, of course. Wow.
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  I want to see this. Whoever resists the authorities.
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  Resists who? God.
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  Has appointed. I should have worn my Jim Jones
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  shirt My. God is in control.
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  Why does he allow so many bad things to happen?
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  See, I love that. If God's in control, why does he
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  allow bad things to happen? That's that's.
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  That's like your main question. Right.
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  In hell forever. Jesus Land.
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  Man that looks really good. It does.
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  No one will believe you. Never get in the van, man.
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  Never get in the van. OK, Yeah.
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  Sage. Advice out of the van man Sage
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  advice. Especially with no.
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  Windows. So.
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  So what's your role in that? Who do you play in that?
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  I play welding teacher, so I'm a teacher in that This film is
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  roughly divided into two segments.
• 17:33
  It's like the first half is is kind of before she gets sent
• 17:36
  away and second-half is when she gets sent away.
• 17:39
  So I'm in the first half where I'm a teacher in the United
• 17:41
  States in the 1980s. So yeah, that's my first major
• 17:46
  film role, even though major as a thank you.
• 17:51
  It's small. It's what they.
• 17:53
  Matter. You're still living the dream,
• 17:55
  man. Yeah, you got to get there
• 17:57
  somehow. That was a.
• 17:58
  Movie I clearly want to watch Nico.
• 18:00
  So Kudo. Yeah, you know, it's not like
• 18:02
  it. You played a trailer that I'm
• 18:03
  like, nobody's going to want to watch that.
• 18:06
  That was captivating. Right.
• 18:08
  Really good. Really good music.
• 18:10
  Our cinematographer, Valentina. I might get pronounced her last
• 18:14
  name wrong. Sorry.
• 18:14
  Valentina Koniglia. Sorry.
• 18:16
  Valentina. Beautiful cinematography.
• 18:20
  Beautiful name, Valentina. Yeah.
• 18:23
  Agreed. I, I remember when I first
• 18:25
  booked this, I, I, I looked up the cinematographer and then I
• 18:28
  looked up her reel and I was like, oh, I'm going to look good
• 18:30
  because, you know, we're active. We want to see how we're going
• 18:33
  to be lit and everything and. Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:36
  Yeah, she made everybody look really good and the costumes
• 18:39
  were amazing. They made me say, I usually play
• 18:44
  kind of like bad guys, like villains or kind of unstable,
• 18:47
  but for this one, they clean me up.
• 18:49
  I look like a Boy Scout, just ridiculously like, just harmless
• 18:54
  and adorable. So it was kind of fun to not
• 18:56
  play a serial killer or whatever that I normally.
• 19:00
  Tend to. I would love, I would love to
• 19:01
  play bad guys, man. That's what I would do.
• 19:03
  You would be good at it. Too I yeah, I would love to play
• 19:06
  bad guys, man. That's all I would ever want to
• 19:08
  do. Bad guy bad.
• 19:09
  Guy, it is really fun. Got a good stern look.
• 19:14
  Thank you, Mike. That's what Beverly said.
• 19:16
  Here's Valentina's cinema. I did.
• 19:21
  Yeah, You see she has like these, like, neon colors that
• 19:23
  kind of like kind of a Blade Runner thing, like that
• 19:25
  beautiful Ridge behind it or just work.
• 19:31
  Yeah, I was just going to say I don't know what that style is,
• 19:33
  but it's cool. I like that style a lot.
• 19:36
  I see it a lot more probably in the last, I don't know, 10 or 15
• 19:40
  years than ever, but I really like whatever that's called.
• 19:45
  It looks good. Yeah, I'm not super educated,
• 19:47
  but the more you're on set, the more on sets, the more you learn
• 19:50
  about everything else and. I can.
• 19:52
  See that and then the gaffer who does the lights and then yeah,
• 19:56
  the the the cinematographer is really has a lot of
• 19:59
  responsibility along with the director to kind of define a
• 20:02
  look and feel and and like a lot of famous directors like
• 20:04
  Spielberg often work with same cinematographer like so they it
• 20:08
  gives it a consistent look. So yeah, that's that's I'm a
• 20:12
  huge fan of cinematography and like I told you earlier, like
• 20:15
  every aspect of movie making in addition to the acting is just
• 20:20
  amazing to me. It's like AI liken it to pirates
• 20:22
  or something, like they're on a pirate ship, they don't sleep.
• 20:25
  They. Those guys are insane.
• 20:27
  Like I your call time could be like 5:00 AM and they've already
• 20:30
  been on set like you know, hours before that.
• 20:33
  And then they they stay hours after you go home.
• 20:35
  They're the 1st to get there and the last to leave the the crew.
• 20:38
  Does the bulk of what you do is act?
• 20:40
  Do you write, Do you write screenplays?
• 20:42
  Do you have any interest? No, no, just none of that.
• 20:44
  OK. No.
• 20:45
  You're just a thespian. You're just a thespian.
• 20:47
  You're acting. When I Yeah, when I read a
• 20:50
  really good script, even if I ever had an inkling to write and
• 20:53
  I see how good the writing is, never mind, OK, never mind my.
• 20:56
  Bad. My bad.
• 20:57
  I'm sorry. Yeah.
• 20:58
  Yeah, the writing is so, so good.
• 21:00
  And I remember when, I won't say what set I was on, but I was
• 21:03
  doing background on one set and I showed up.
• 21:06
  It was one of those 5:00 AM call times and you know, I, I was
• 21:09
  supposed to show up to wardrobe to get my wardrobe.
• 21:12
  So the, the, the, you know, there's the, the sun hasn't
• 21:14
  risen yet. Trailer door opens and outcomes.
• 21:16
  The costume designer says, oh, welcome.
• 21:18
  And she reeked vodka. And I and I was like, nice, I at
• 21:24
  5:00 AM and I was like, I remember thinking, this is what
• 21:27
  I want to do. I just love that everyone is
• 21:30
  kind of eccentric and kind of crazy and, and they're just mad
• 21:34
  artists and that's. What I always liked about the
• 21:36
  music business, Nico and I. So with that said, I liked his
• 21:41
  question about writing. It sounds like you were more
• 21:44
  fascinated with on the movie side and TV, the same thing.
• 21:49
  I wasn't music. I wanted to learn studio, how
• 21:52
  that worked. It sounds very similar in that
• 21:57
  everything has to look the same and music, everything has to
• 22:00
  sound the same. And there's people that make
• 22:02
  that happen, right? And nobody ever sees the behind
• 22:04
  the scenes people. Are you interested in going that
• 22:07
  route? Directing.
• 22:09
  Producing. Cinematography.
• 22:13
  God that again, they've been around so many talented of all
• 22:16
  those things that it just no, no way, no, I think all I really
• 22:21
  just love acting and that's like the IT takes us all every minute
• 22:25
  of energy from the moment I wake up, like I I'll like pass out
• 22:28
  with a script, go to go to sleep with a script.
• 22:31
  It's like it's you really got to be obsessed with it, not just
• 22:34
  love it to make any momentum right now because the industry
• 22:37
  is so slow like Beverly was talking about.
• 22:41
  But yeah, there's still like a lot of Indies like that being
• 22:43
  made and there's there is stuff happening, but just the stuff
• 22:45
  that pays really well is hard to come by or high competition.
• 22:50
  So I forget who it was, which is terrible because I love though,
• 22:53
  I love everything about movies and acting stuff.
• 22:55
  I've been there, done that when I was younger.
• 22:58
  There's three actors, though. One of them is Anthony Hopkins.
• 23:00
  I can't remember the other two that were referenced in it, but
• 23:02
  they'll read a script 250 times. So it becomes part of who they
• 23:07
  are. So they're no longer in their
• 23:09
  eyes acting. They're just they've, they've
• 23:10
  immersed themselves in that script to that extent that it
• 23:14
  just falls off their tongue. Yep, that's exactly, that's
• 23:18
  exactly what you got to do. Like every, every person is
• 23:20
  every actor has a different process to kind of become the
• 23:23
  character. And I don't think there's any
• 23:25
  such thing as, like the, you know, the right technique.
• 23:28
  The same with memorization. Like the everyone, every actor
• 23:31
  I've met has a different way to memorize.
• 23:32
  Everyone has a different way to get into character.
• 23:35
  At the end of the day, as long as you, you know, show up on
• 23:37
  time, know your lines and, you know, do good work, nobody
• 23:40
  really asks. Like, was that Meisner?
• 23:42
  Was that method? Yeah, yeah.
• 23:45
  But yeah, you do have to. I agree.
• 23:46
  The general concept that you gotta know it the lines, almost
• 23:49
  like just while you're sleeping or mumbling the lines.
• 23:52
  Yeah, it's like, it's like singing a song.
• 23:54
  You, just you, the lyrics. Turn your head nonstop, you
• 23:58
  know? Yeah, yeah.
• 24:00
  Especially when we start, when we begin writing.
• 24:02
  Mike would. We'd record our practice, I'd
• 24:04
  tell Mike give me a cassette tape of the song.
• 24:06
  He's like, why? It's like, because I need it.
• 24:08
  And that's all I would do 24/7. Every time I went anywhere,
• 24:11
  drove anywhere, headphones, listen over and over and over
• 24:13
  and over and over again until it didn't.
• 24:16
  I just, it was just, it was just there.
• 24:18
  It was a muscle memory. The first beat of the song would
• 24:21
  come on and boom. I used to tell all my guitar
• 24:24
  students, you have to practice and play those songs until you
• 24:29
  basically want to puke, right? You, you got to play them till
• 24:33
  you hate them and then you might know them, you might be right.
• 24:38
  That, and that was always my last line, that you might be
• 24:40
  ready to go play a show because Chris and I will always say you
• 24:45
  don't know till you're there, right?
• 24:47
  When you step on that stage, that's when you're going to know
• 24:50
  if you're ready the same way as when they'd say action actually,
• 24:53
  you right then you know, if you're ready.
• 24:56
  And a lot of people fold under that pressure, they really do.
• 25:00
  I'm so glad you mentioned that I keep going because I have no.
• 25:03
  No, I'm ready for no good. No good.
• 25:04
  That's why we do this, man. Okay, because that's exactly
• 25:07
  where I've noticed a lot of my my actor friends fail or like
• 25:10
  people are just starting out and everything is that they train
• 25:12
  over and over the lines like you were saying, like read over and
• 25:15
  over. I got these line.
• 25:16
  I couldn't do it and back in my head.
• 25:17
  But then they walk into that addition room, long room, empty
• 25:20
  room. There's a bunch of people in the
• 25:22
  hallway and there's a table at the end of that large empty
• 25:25
  room. 3 people looking kind of, you know, bored or cameras
• 25:29
  there. You just like, you know, the
• 25:30
  sounds of your footsteps walking up and all right, whenever
• 25:32
  you're ready, you know, and it's like the, the people crack under
• 25:36
  that pressure because they didn't train their mind.
• 25:37
  They trained only the lines, the you know what they in their
• 25:41
  head, they made an image of what the scene would be like.
• 25:43
  And then they show up, they crack under the pressure of like
• 25:48
  the all of that. So but that's when they all of a
• 25:50
  sudden they blank on lines, their deliveries poor, their
• 25:53
  voice cracks, their the paper shaking while they're holding
• 25:56
  it. And you got to train your mind
• 25:58
  in addition to the the acting. Absolutely.
• 26:02
  That's a great description too. I've, I've seen 100 musicians do
• 26:05
  the same thing. You know, they get up there and
• 26:08
  I know they're great musicians and for whatever reason, when
• 26:12
  the audience is there, it just, they can't, you said it best.
• 26:16
  They can't put their mind in that place, right?
• 26:20
  People used to ask me what I was thinking about when I was
• 26:22
  playing Nothing, because if you let thoughts enter your mind,
• 26:25
  it's a train wreck automatically.
• 26:28
  He was really worried about what the hell I was doing and where I
• 26:30
  was going and why I was heading towards light rafters and what
• 26:33
  was. There was some concern for his
• 26:35
  safety at times. Wait, wait.
• 26:40
  Why is it going that way? Don't stand there while they
• 26:44
  blow things up. So athletes have the same thing,
• 26:48
  right, like messy if you follow soccer, like when when it really
• 26:52
  mattered for him when Argentina was really in the line is when
• 26:55
  he would start to crack a little bit and like you could kind of
• 26:57
  in play not as well because it was just same when the Brazil
• 27:00
  like just cracked under Germany. It was like seven goals and one.
• 27:03
  And Brazil is normally a great team is just the pressure of
• 27:05
  everything just made them buckle collectively.
• 27:07
  So it could happen. Michael Jordan, who wanted that
• 27:10
  moment, right? Yeah, and who's the current guy?
• 27:13
  Who's the stud for the Golden State Warriors?
• 27:16
  Shoots 3 points? Steph Curry.
• 27:17
  Steph Curry. He wants the ball when that
• 27:20
  moment calls for it, right? Yeah, those.
• 27:22
  Are LeBron. He wants the ball so he can act
• 27:25
  like he got hit. Chris is a big LeBron fan,
• 27:28
  ladies and gentlemen. Big LeBron.
• 27:31
  He's a joke, man. He's a joke.
• 27:33
  So you you started your background work when you were a
• 27:36
  lot younger. Have you done, have you ever
• 27:38
  done any like international commercials, things like that?
• 27:40
  Have you done stage? Have you done stage work like,
• 27:43
  you know, not so Broadway, but stage performing?
• 27:45
  Like I my whole break into in in acting was theater.
• 27:49
  That's where I started. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:51
  So that's so the for those who don't know much about the the
• 27:55
  acting world, like the, the professional acting union is
• 27:57
  SAG, AFTRA, the Screen Actors Guild and after I used to be a
• 28:01
  separate union and we combined. So now it's got those it's just
• 28:03
  joined awkwardly with the dash or whatever the but AG after the
• 28:08
  professional acting union and I joined through a commercial.
• 28:11
  So I, I auditioned for a commercial for it was the
• 28:15
  Baltimore Ravens. We filmed it in the stadium.
• 28:18
  It was, it was something that would show during games and
• 28:20
  everything. Oh, OK.
• 28:23
  It was really exciting. It was back then it was all in
• 28:25
  person auditions. So I went in that room and did
• 28:28
  my thing and they called me and said, oh, we want you for the
• 28:30
  role. And I'm like, what?
• 28:32
  And then I joined the union shortly after that.
• 28:35
  So, yeah, but I, I did a commercial then I haven't don't
• 28:39
  do as much commercial work now that the auditions come in.
• 28:42
  But it's like, I think I just, I don't know if I have like the
• 28:44
  right look because I'm just keeping all the serial killer
• 28:46
  stuff and they may not want me holding a burger.
• 28:48
  I don't know but. So, so I've so somebody, I
• 28:52
  forget who it was because we've done this 190 some odd Times
• 28:55
  Now, but I think it was the gal that was in Superman, the way to
• 28:59
  Superman. Sam Well.
• 29:01
  Audition. Yeah.
• 29:02
  So the auditions now are all like Zoom.
• 29:05
  For the most part, yeah, it's it's self tapes is the the
• 29:08
  majority of at least your first edition.
• 29:10
  So so you see here there's a blue backdrop.
• 29:13
  This is solid background that a lot of actors have.
• 29:15
  So when I audition, I kind of have those behind me.
• 29:18
  And that just kind of makes it all so there's no distractions.
• 29:20
  And people pick different colors depending on what looks good
• 29:23
  with their skin tone. You know, this, this might work
• 29:26
  with my skin out without, you know, there's no right or wrong
• 29:28
  for the backdrop. But then, yeah, they have lights
• 29:31
  all up in here. And then you adjust the lighting
• 29:33
  based on, you know, what character you're auditioning
• 29:35
  for. And then you send the tape in,
• 29:37
  casting director watches it and if if they like it, they they'll
• 29:41
  send it forward their favorites to the director.
• 29:43
  And then the director picks who to cast.
• 29:45
  So the casting director sort of like whittles it down to the top
• 29:49
  picks and the and the final choice is usually the director.
• 29:52
  But then with huge productions in the studios involved, they'll
• 29:55
  be like, well, we want, you know, Al Pacino or whatever.
• 29:58
  So but for yeah, self tapes is the is the thing.
• 30:01
  But then for, yeah, so. So tapes, Is it actually tape or
• 30:05
  are you just recording it on your phone and sending as an MP4
• 30:07
  file? I usually, yeah, I usually just
• 30:08
  record on my phone. That's what most people do Like
• 30:11
  7. 20. Yeah, it doesn't have to be.
• 30:13
  Yeah, the industry term is self tape, but yeah, you don't have
• 30:16
  to. And they do Zoom editions now
• 30:18
  too. Send my I'm going to send my VCR
• 30:21
  tape in, man. Here you go.
• 30:26
  They're going to open that. Open that.
• 30:27
  What the hell is this? This guy's got a Betamax.
• 30:31
  Could be the greatest actor ever and it's on beta and they throw
• 30:35
  it away. Yes, and then my soul.
• 30:40
  I'm sorry. No I beta was like if you like.
• 30:44
  Beta was the superior. VHS, for those that were older
• 30:46
  than it was like a much better format, but we're lost to the to
• 30:50
  the cassette wars of the great survivors of that time period,
• 30:53
  OK. You said something that
• 30:56
  fascinated me. So like if, if, if a movie is in
• 30:59
  projection, somebody writes a movie, they sell it.
• 31:01
  All that kind of stuff happens and now they're ready to start
• 31:03
  casting stuff if if they've written it for somebody
• 31:05
  specifically in mind, like you referenced Da Pacino, do they
• 31:08
  have Al Pacino come read for it? They just like, boom, you got
• 31:10
  this role. Now, once you get big enough,
• 31:12
  they just, they call it offer only where they're just like, if
• 31:16
  you want this guy in the movie, it's gonna be X amount of
• 31:18
  dollars or X amount of side benefits like first class,
• 31:22
  whatever. Yeah.
• 31:23
  But I'm not, I am not there yet. I'm at the point where, again,
• 31:26
  the life changing roles are coming in that like where it
• 31:30
  comes in and I'm like, Oh my God.
• 31:32
  Like I would be in this show like multiple episodes with some
• 31:36
  of my favorite actors of all times.
• 31:37
  Like as a major character, like when you get those additions and
• 31:40
  you're like, you know, you're on the right track, but it's tough
• 31:43
  because the the major roles like that, you're competing with a
• 31:46
  lot of good actors. So I'm just, I get grateful when
• 31:50
  a big addition comes in and there was one I can't, you're
• 31:54
  not allowed to say. Still well in the air.
• 31:56
  Got a huge one just like 2 weeks ago that I turned in on Friday.
• 32:00
  So I'm like fingers crossed very tightly so.
• 32:04
  Do they give you any idea of when they're gonna get back to
• 32:06
  you? Is it open-ended or they give
• 32:07
  you, hey, we're gonna know by this dime?
• 32:09
  It is. It's like they say addition and
• 32:11
  forget because even when you know the film dates, like it
• 32:13
  says shoot dates, June through, you know, July 2020, sixth, they
• 32:16
  move them all the time. They could even shift them a
• 32:18
  year, six months. So even if June passes and you
• 32:22
  don't care, they might ping you. I had one that I did like and
• 32:25
  then six months later that I heard, yeah, so and then again
• 32:31
  like another six months after that because they kept shifting
• 32:34
  the shoot dates and I just kept re auditioning for it.
• 32:37
  And I don't know, maybe I'll hear again.
• 32:39
  The movie, The movie junket says.
• 32:41
  Hey, Nico. Somebody knows you, Nico?
• 32:44
  Who's the Who's the movie junket?
• 32:47
  It might be like a let me check an account that uses a different
• 32:52
  name like I think I might. You can go into the chat here.
• 32:56
  That's where. There's a.
• 32:58
  Question. Oh, look at that.
• 33:00
  Yeah, yeah. I see studio chat, is that where
• 33:04
  I see it? It it'll be under the public
• 33:06
  chat. Public chat.
• 33:08
  Thanks. Hi, Nico, it's at the movie
• 33:10
  junket, wherever that is. Hi.
• 33:15
  Hi, movie junket. Welcome.
• 33:17
  Welcome to the show. Welcome to Welcome to the Show.
• 33:24
  No, that's, that's great. Glad that we have like live
• 33:27
  viewers. I never caught them.
• 33:29
  Yeah, we're in 80. One countries.
• 33:31
  Yeah, right now, Right now. Actually, it's more than that.
• 33:34
  I got to count on our actual website.
• 33:36
  It's probably closer to 90 or 100.
• 33:38
  OK, we're out. We are.
• 33:39
  We're we're Yeah, we've been. We've been lately.
• 33:42
  It's all because of Beverly, man.
• 33:43
  She came on the show and then all these countries started
• 33:45
  opening up. It really happened right after
• 33:47
  that episode dropped. And she's kind of a rare agent
• 33:50
  in that like what might surprise a lot of people when you get an
• 33:53
  agent is that you get the interview.
• 33:55
  They're like, OK, great, I want to sign you.
• 33:57
  And you're like, yes, you know, now I'm going to be.
• 33:58
  And that's the only way you get these big additions.
• 34:01
  Like if you want to addition for movies and stuff, the agent is
• 34:04
  your the gatekeeper. Yep.
• 34:06
  Usually you may not hear much from them after that initial.
• 34:09
  You'll do the initial interview. They'll be great.
• 34:10
  You're on our team and, and you know that it's like not a
• 34:15
  ghosting per SE, but they just have like hundreds of other
• 34:17
  clients and they're really busy. But now Beverly's great because
• 34:21
  she'll always like, she's always available.
• 34:23
  She's like really hands on with you.
• 34:26
  So I've always really liked her as an Asian.
• 34:27
  And she, she my biggest additions happened under her
• 34:31
  care. Like when Jesus land came in,
• 34:34
  she was the one who was negotiating the contract.
• 34:36
  And then some other big ones they can't talk about.
• 34:38
  But yeah, the biggest ones in my entire life have been well under
• 34:42
  her. So thank you, Beverly.
• 34:44
  Thank you, Beverly. Beverly I dude, I pursued her
• 34:46
  coming on for for for quite a long time, so I was happy when I
• 34:49
  got her. Yeah.
• 34:52
  Yeah, yeah, it's Monica. Nico, What's that?
• 34:56
  Do you know Monica? Do you know Monica?
• 34:57
  That's I. It's probably the Monica is.
• 35:01
  Yes, I know. I know Monica.
• 35:02
  I'm pretty sure I know which Monica.
• 35:05
  That's who she says she is. So.
• 35:06
  She's. Monica.
• 35:07
  Yeah, yeah. Monica from Friends.
• 35:11
  If it's if it's a Monica, I know that it's a close acting friend
• 35:15
  that I've been working with for a while for like we auditioned
• 35:17
  together and everything. Tell her to come on the podcast,
• 35:20
  we'd love to talk to her. Yeah.
• 35:22
  Do, do. Yes.
• 35:23
  Well, we can tell her right now. Come on the podcast.
• 35:25
  We want to talk to you. Yeah, She's go to Chris, Go to
• 35:28
  Yeah. So go to chrisandmikeshow.com
• 35:30
  and just register as a guest and we'll get you scheduled.
• 35:32
  That's awesome. Yeah, it's that simple.
• 35:34
  We don't. We're not picky.
• 35:35
  We just love people with cool resumes you.
• 35:38
  Better have a cool life story, man Talk.
• 35:39
  Yeah, it. Is life story.
• 35:41
  So how many, how many things have you been attached to in
• 35:43
  your career? I mean, is that, is that a
• 35:45
  legitimate question? Can you?
• 35:46
  Yeah. No, that's I got to look up my
• 35:48
  own resume because I can. My website, Nico Farrow.
• 35:52
  And I want to hear, I want to hear the second-half of his
• 35:56
  question that he interrupted. Have you ever done like plays or
• 36:00
  Broadway theatre type stuff? Chris interrupted his own
• 36:03
  second-half of his. Project.
• 36:05
  I'll fill in. Every now and then I do that.
• 36:06
  Every now and then I'll. Keep it like, so to answer the
• 36:09
  most recent one, it's like 26. I'm counting like projects
• 36:13
  within like the past like 2 1/2 years that I'm attached to that
• 36:17
  I booked and film. And then in terms of, and then
• 36:19
  the other question was the theatre question, right?
• 36:21
  Yes. Yeah.
• 36:22
  That's how we started to when my first training was under a place
• 36:26
  here in New York called Russell Acting Academy.
• 36:29
  Kathy Russell is a teacher. She teaches right on Broadway,
• 36:32
  on a stage on Broadway where she performs and she has a Guinness.
• 36:35
  She holds the Guinness Book of World Records for longest
• 36:37
  running play. And she might, it might be wrong
• 36:40
  with the exact title, like the longest continuous play by one
• 36:43
  person. I forgot the exact stipulations
• 36:45
  of the Guinness Book of World Record, but she's been doing it
• 36:47
  for over the same play, same role for over 35 years.
• 36:51
  That's outstanding. She's a great teacher.
• 36:53
  Yeah. So I learned first there and
• 36:56
  then I switched to TV and film acting because it's a different,
• 37:00
  slightly different style because you have to worry about the
• 37:04
  framing and close-ups and the microphone and all that.
• 37:06
  And even the combat is different, like stage combat
• 37:09
  versus on camera combat is different.
• 37:12
  And then through I did what I think the off Off Broadway,
• 37:16
  there's like a definition like off, off, off, off, off
• 37:18
  depending on how many seats it has.
• 37:20
  Let me see off off Broadway, let me see it was like 100 seats.
• 37:24
  So that would mean that it's fewer than 100.
• 37:27
  So yes, I think it's off off Broadway was technically what I
• 37:31
  did. I'd have addition for a lot of
• 37:34
  theater stuff, but, but generally, my, my, my biggest
• 37:39
  love is TV and film. So that's what I focused on the
• 37:41
  most. But I always encourage people to
• 37:43
  start the stage because then, yeah, if you don't have to worry
• 37:46
  about all the camera stuff and it's just more pure, right?
• 37:50
  And it doesn't have to be Shakespeare.
• 37:51
  It can be. There's a lot of like
• 37:53
  contemporary plays that that, you know, you don't have to sing
• 37:57
  or dance. It's not like Shrek the musical.
• 38:00
  That's really well written. Yeah.
• 38:03
  So I always say just start out, try stage acting.
• 38:06
  OK. So I have ATV question about the
• 38:09
  actual production when you're there.
• 38:12
  This thought came to me when you said microphones.
• 38:15
  How much of that when you're shooting the scene is actually
• 38:18
  recorded right then and there audio wise, and how much is
• 38:21
  overdubbed later? Oh gosh, the sound as a whole I
• 38:25
  don't know as much about, so I'm probably going to butcher some
• 38:27
  of the terms. But there's like the the Lab.
• 38:29
  Experienced. Yeah, I mean they they they try
• 38:32
  to record as much as possible on.
• 38:34
  They have the boom mic, so they got the, you know, the thing
• 38:36
  over the mic. Then they have I think it's lav
• 38:38
  or lab. I always pronounced it wrong.
• 38:40
  This is short for something say I should know this but they tape
• 38:43
  it no too. And I don't that sounds familiar
• 38:45
  though. Yeah, let me see while we're
• 38:47
  talking if I could see it's short for something so lavalier.
• 38:51
  OK, Yeah, no wonder I didn't remember that.
• 38:54
  So it'll go, it's it'll, it always falls off me because I
• 38:57
  sweat a lot when I'm the lights are on.
• 38:58
  So they always have to reattach it.
• 39:00
  And then if you have chest hair and then when you take it off on
• 39:02
  the other night, it hurts. So yeah, they record between the
• 39:05
  that sound and the boom mic. They do audio mixing later.
• 39:09
  And if something went wrong, then you have to do ADR,
• 39:14
  additional dialogue recording where you go into a sound stage.
• 39:17
  And worst nightmare is you got to match your own lips, which
• 39:21
  sucks because the your, your original performance is always
• 39:25
  the best. So you got to match your acting
• 39:26
  and try to get the lips to sync. Ideally your APR is during
• 39:30
  someone else's close up. So every now and then you know
• 39:33
  there was a car sound or they want to change dialogue.
• 39:35
  Which happened to me recently because there was a line at
• 39:37
  where I said those guys are about to and they needed me to
• 39:41
  change it to that guy because they decided to when they put
• 39:44
  the camera over there, they kind of changed it so there's only
• 39:47
  one guy sitting there instead of 2.
• 39:48
  So I had to do ADR for that, but that was easy.
• 39:51
  But yes, the answer is just about everything.
• 39:53
  They want to record on set as much as possible, even for those
• 39:56
  that aren't familiar with acting the room tone.
• 39:59
  So you do a scene in a room like this and then they say, OK,
• 40:02
  we're getting room tone. And they hold the microphone for
• 40:05
  like a full minute and nobody breathes, nobody moves just
• 40:08
  because even quiet has a sound. So that way.
• 40:11
  Yeah. So they they have to do that all
• 40:14
  the time. So the sound is a big deal.
• 40:17
  That's why I asked because that was my Forte.
• 40:18
  I should have remembered that microphone, but I used to use a
• 40:21
  pink noise generator, which is probably what they're using, and
• 40:24
  it basically tunes the room. It tells you where the deficient
• 40:27
  or there's too much of certain frequencies that has.
• 40:31
  Back in the day they had lights, you know, red meant you were too
• 40:34
  much in that frequency. Yellow was, you know, you're too
• 40:38
  deficient. And then there was a green bar
• 40:41
  they were shooting for. And you're right, the fans that
• 40:44
  run in the room, Chris and I have heard it doing this
• 40:46
  podcast. You know people will have a
• 40:48
  noisy old computer and just that fan in the computer causes that
• 40:52
  microphone to go crazy. That's why I, yeah.
• 40:55
  And then question, yeah. Then sound is like that's part
• 40:58
  of your on camera acting training is you're not supposed
• 41:01
  to step on someone else's line in case you need to edit.
• 41:03
  So if like Chris doesn't line, I gotta wait for him to finish his
• 41:06
  line before I interrupt. Otherwise it can screw up the
• 41:08
  sound editing later on. So but on on stage, you can
• 41:12
  technically step on someone's dialogue, but it's you know,
• 41:15
  it's not as dire the consequences.
• 41:18
  And also for theater, you got to be like louder so the back of
• 41:21
  the room can hear you and then on camera you can whisper and
• 41:24
  then, you know, the microphone picks it up.
• 41:26
  I think we learned that lesson in spades doing this 100 and 696
• 41:30
  Times Now. Yeah, we add an additional
• 41:33
  person. You have to be careful that
• 41:35
  you're not talking over everybody all the time, you
• 41:37
  know? Right.
• 41:39
  That shit drives me nuts when I'm having phone calls with
• 41:41
  people and they just, they just don't shut up when I'm trying to
• 41:44
  say something. So I'll just tell them, hey, can
• 41:45
  you shut up? Just shut up.
• 41:48
  I just let me answer my question.
• 41:50
  Let me ask my question and then you can respond accordingly.
• 41:54
  You'll like what I say most of the time.
• 41:57
  If you don't need me here, I'll leave, right?
• 42:00
  Right. Because I got other.
• 42:01
  Things to do. So obviously being an actor,
• 42:04
  you're all, you're obviously a fan of actors.
• 42:07
  Yep. I want to know your top three
• 42:09
  favorite all time actors. Doesn't matter what genre.
• 42:12
  Great question. Without even thinking about it,
• 42:13
  Nick, what I'm thinking about it, just rattle off 3 names of
• 42:16
  actors that you if you saw them on a shoot, you'd be like, yes,
• 42:18
  I met him or her. I mean, Emma Stone is probably
• 42:21
  my the right off the top of my the that's right top of mind
• 42:25
  that's. What I want, that's what I want.
• 42:26
  Right off top of your hand, man. Don't think about.
• 42:27
  It do comedy she can do serious her the emotion like if you saw
• 42:31
  Beguni, you know just that scene where she's like where.
• 42:35
  I was trying to watch Begonia, man, I really, I was trying to I
• 42:39
  I promise I was like Nikki went to bed.
• 42:41
  My wife. I'm like, I'm going to watch
• 42:42
  this because it has all these accolades to it and I'm like,
• 42:44
  what the fuck is this about, man?
• 42:47
  Like I just couldn't get past like the first half an hour and
• 42:50
  like I just, I just couldn't, which is I love.
• 42:54
  I I love non heavily CGI movies because that's what I grew up
• 42:58
  on. I grew up on the actual acting,
• 43:01
  you know, not the the the stuff, right?
• 43:05
  So Emma Stone and I usually. Emma Stone and she and yeah,
• 43:09
  she's the, and that's what we can talk about a little bit
• 43:11
  later if we have time. But she's also big on improv,
• 43:13
  and I think improv is really important for acting training.
• 43:16
  Agreed. So another one that I don't know
• 43:19
  how many people know him, Tom Pelfrey, he if you watched
• 43:23
  Ozark, he played the, the, the brother who was like, like like
• 43:27
  kind of like a little mental. Yeah.
• 43:28
  And yeah, OK. Great show, great show.
• 43:31
  He is so talented, like when I. Watched it that role so well.
• 43:36
  Yeah. That that monologue, I don't
• 43:38
  want it. For those who haven't seen it,
• 43:39
  he has a monologue and a ride on a car.
• 43:42
  That's like, just a thing of beauty.
• 43:43
  Like is an actor's actor. He's so good and then one that
• 43:49
  may not be also not as well known to people, Troy Baker.
• 43:52
  He's mostly a voice over actor who does a lot of video games.
• 43:56
  He did like he did a perfect Harrison Ford in the latest
• 43:59
  Indiana Jones games that came out.
• 44:01
  He's in the Death Stranding games with what's his name.
• 44:06
  I should know this from Walking Dead.
• 44:08
  Why am I spacing? Because it happens you've found
• 44:12
  the pressure being on the Christian Mike show being.
• 44:14
  Yeah, yeah. I didn't change my mind.
• 44:16
  I didn't change my mind. It was, you know, we're taking
• 44:19
  your career to a whole new level now.
• 44:21
  Since you took it there, how far did you make it into The Walking
• 44:24
  Dead? Yeah.
• 44:26
  Oh, it is Oh, the show I quit, right.
• 44:29
  Yeah, right, right. When during the for those who
• 44:31
  haven't seen it, the baseball bat death that that I think the
• 44:35
  show started to die after that, after the that Eric here, I was
• 44:39
  like kind of out. I'm going to start asking
• 44:42
  everybody that is into movies or acting when they quit watching
• 44:46
  The Walking Dead, because I don't think anybody ever made it
• 44:49
  to the end. Yeah.
• 44:50
  Oh, I mean, it was Norman Reedus.
• 44:52
  So Norman Reedus was in the video game opposite.
• 44:55
  Yeah, in opposite Troy Baker. He's just an incredible actor
• 45:00
  because it just. Why does that name ring a bell?
• 45:02
  Norman Reedus, he was, yeah. Why could did he play Daryl and
• 45:04
  Walking Dead? OK, and he was in Boondock
• 45:07
  Saints spin off show. Yeah.
• 45:12
  So those are probably like top of mind, some of my top three.
• 45:15
  But right up there is Doug Jones, who does he's known for
• 45:18
  creature acting like he did the one with the, you know, eyeballs
• 45:20
  in his hands and Pan's Labyrinth.
• 45:23
  And he's done so many creature. He if you watch Buffy the
• 45:26
  Gentleman episode with the creepy guys that are floating
• 45:29
  and like steal people's hearts. A really, really, really
• 45:33
  talented actor is on this physical movement and then, you
• 45:38
  know, is acting in general is just.
• 45:40
  But yeah, he's did top three and I went to four.
• 45:44
  It's all good. It's OK.
• 45:44
  I got I got Pacino, I got Gandolfini and I got Michelle
• 45:47
  Pfeiffer. I just rewatched heat recently
• 45:49
  and that is so good. It's.
• 45:51
  So, so, OK, so you're an actor. So I don't know if it's bullshit
• 45:54
  or not, but there's there's all this stuff I see online about
• 45:57
  them making a a heat 2. Yeah.
• 46:00
  Is that legit? I'm not sure.
• 46:03
  Like it's supposed to be. It's with Christian Bale.
• 46:05
  I think I researched it and it got OK.
• 46:08
  It's bullshit. OK?
• 46:09
  I think so. I think it was real for a
• 46:11
  minute, but everybody said the same.
• 46:12
  Thing if it is, I'm available in any casting.
• 46:14
  Direction, right? Right.
• 46:16
  See, you better do. It good though.
• 46:18
  Yeah, Man, that was a great movie.
• 46:20
  That scene with De Niro and Pacino, just one thing I didn't
• 46:24
  like about the movie is I didn't.
• 46:25
  Like when they're sitting at the coffee shop.
• 46:26
  No, I didn't. I didn't like, I didn't like
• 46:28
  Pacino's hair, man. I'm like, what the fuck you
• 46:29
  doing with the hair? When he's at the coffee shop, it
• 46:31
  looks, it looks stupid. It's like whoever was in charge
• 46:34
  of his hair should have fixed it.
• 46:35
  I'm going to have you dump that now because I I don't really
• 46:38
  remember. He didn't, he didn't look cool.
• 46:40
  Like it just was this weird fuck comb over thing.
• 46:43
  And it's just like De Niro was De Niro before De Niro got
• 46:46
  political and shit and and just turned me completely off of him
• 46:49
  forever because I love De Niro too.
• 46:52
  De Niro when I was growing up because you know, it's just De
• 46:55
  Niro, Pacino, those two method actually just how they immerse
• 46:57
  themselves like taxi driver. Can't believe you didn't put
• 47:00
  Christopher Walken in your list. I well, I, I said top three man,
• 47:05
  I can't to go, I mean top. 10 every movie he's ever done.
• 47:08
  Oh yeah, Christopher Walken's amazing man.
• 47:10
  We had Mikey. Mikey Day, Mikey Castillo Day,
• 47:12
  one of our guests, he could do a Christopher Walker.
• 47:14
  Nobody's businessman. Gary Oldman.
• 47:16
  That's a good one. There's another character actor
• 47:19
  for. Sure, the professional you
• 47:21
  remember that movie with Oh Oh. Oh, the way he can portray a
• 47:26
  character is amazing. The way he delivered lines like
• 47:29
  that one line where he screamed everyone when he was right.
• 47:34
  What the rumor hasn't been rehearsing that he was doing it
• 47:37
  really quiet because that's what the director wanted.
• 47:39
  So he decided to screw that. I'm gonna I'm gonna do with just
• 47:42
  every fiber of my being. And apparently it scared the the
• 47:44
  the cast and the crew. Like holy shit, what just
• 47:47
  happened? The Captain because it was epic.
• 47:49
  Yeah, like it's the Casper for forgiveness, not for permission.
• 47:53
  And I had an actor friend on one of the first things I ever
• 47:57
  booked telling me that like, if do it the way you want and even
• 48:00
  if it's crazy. And if they say, hey, Nico, take
• 48:02
  that back. You know, I don't know what what
• 48:04
  the hell was that? Just do it like what the lines
• 48:06
  say, don't go crazy. They're going to watch that
• 48:08
  footage back later and say, you know what, That that was a good
• 48:11
  take. Like I really like what Nico
• 48:12
  did. We're going to keep they said
• 48:13
  like, do something crazy if you want.
• 48:15
  And then listen to him when they say don't do it again, but as if
• 48:18
  you have an instinct like that to go crazy, just do it because
• 48:22
  it could be bold or not. It'll be their choice in the end
• 48:25
  in the editing room. Right, which is what you should
• 48:27
  do, because you're interpreting the characters best you can to
• 48:30
  portray it to the best of your ability.
• 48:33
  Which is why I think improv is so important.
• 48:35
  And shout out to my improv teacher, Carl Kissin.
• 48:39
  KISSIN. He's he's a great improv
• 48:41
  teacher. Yeah, I'm just an improv.
• 48:44
  So improv scares the crap out of me.
• 48:47
  Like acting doesn't like being on set or or auditioning live,
• 48:51
  I'm fine. But improv, when the lights go
• 48:53
  on and you got to be funny, like, oof, that's scary.
• 48:57
  Oh, for sure. But I think if you after you, if
• 49:00
  you do it over and over again, I think you'll get better at it,
• 49:03
  you know, with anything else. I've been doing over.
• 49:05
  You're sitting. With another band, right, You
• 49:09
  know that's where you got to put yourself.
• 49:11
  It'd be like you going down and sitting in.
• 49:13
  With another band. You could do it, but you
• 49:15
  wouldn't be comfortable. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:18
  But yeah, it's good training. I would like besides like stage
• 49:21
  training for those who are like want to get into acting.
• 49:23
  The improv is a great way to learn how to act just to be
• 49:26
  think fast on your feet and be instinctive and and stage
• 49:29
  freight, all that stuff. Yeah, well, and and you know who
• 49:33
  Walton Coggins is? Yes, yes, of course.
• 49:36
  I love him, love him. He like he does his own social
• 49:39
  media. We've had little conversations.
• 49:40
  I keep trying to come on a show, but he just doesn't respond to
• 49:42
  that question. He he had a he had a great thing
• 49:45
  about acting. The way to be an actor is be a 5
• 49:48
  year old and do yes, because then you're you're fearless when
• 49:51
  you're 5. Just go back to being five years
• 49:54
  old and then just go. And improv was originally like a
• 49:57
  children's game that adults started to play.
• 49:58
  So yeah, absolutely it is. It is.
• 50:00
  It is. I mean, it's called a play, you
• 50:02
  know, when you're it's playing. So yeah, it is.
• 50:05
  I I try to have a lot of fun. Like I I asked some.
• 50:09
  I've had the opportunity to speak to some of my favorite
• 50:11
  actors is when you join the union, you get invited to all
• 50:14
  these great screenings. Like this Friday, I'm gonna go
• 50:16
  see one with Harrison Ford in person for shrinking.
• 50:19
  I'm really excited. But then, you know, if you're
• 50:21
  lucky, you get to talk to them or ask them questions.
• 50:23
  And I got, yeah, one thing I had asked, I won't say who, but I
• 50:28
  asked like, what's your advice for me?
• 50:31
  Like, I have this big thing I'm doing.
• 50:33
  And he was like, just enjoy it because you don't know when
• 50:37
  you're going to be on that set at that capacity again.
• 50:40
  Just have a lot of fun. Just embrace every moment, savor
• 50:44
  it. I'm like, OK, Because he was
• 50:46
  like, what? What?
• 50:47
  I asked what advice for you would you give someone like me
• 50:49
  who is about to do this thing? You know?
• 50:51
  Yeah, I'll never forget that. Like yeah, just have fun.
• 50:56
  That was what my music teacher told me.
• 50:58
  You always got to play like it's your last time because
• 51:00
  eventually it will be, right? There's always a last time for
• 51:04
  everything, so you you might as well enjoy that moment every
• 51:07
  time. I agree with that advice
• 51:09
  wholeheartedly. How often?
• 51:11
  How often do you have to update your headshots and stuff?
• 51:13
  Or is that or is that still even a thing?
• 51:15
  In it is a big thing. Yeah, OK, generally people stay
• 51:18
  every two years is a is a good rule of thumb.
• 51:21
  And then you can you know, I have like 1 like dark brooding
• 51:24
  one that kind of and you want it to fit what you're getting
• 51:26
  auditions for. So like I get a lot of like
• 51:28
  villain or unstable characters. They're not all villains, but
• 51:32
  they're like a little screw screw.
• 51:33
  Lucy. Yeah, a little wacky, eccentric
• 51:37
  intellectual, mad scientists, that kind of character.
• 51:40
  I see that. I could see that, absolutely.
• 51:43
  I could see you as intellectual. Every time he says that, I've
• 51:45
  seen it every time. Right.
• 51:48
  So, yeah, so I've actually kind of fits that.
• 51:50
  And then there's also like, you know, more like like, you know,
• 51:53
  like just more commercial, like happy and smiling lit
• 51:57
  differently. So but yeah, usually every two
• 51:59
  years you want to update that. OK.
• 52:02
  And then yeah, yeah, that's like there there are catch ups going
• 52:06
  to be expensive, but they are important because like when a
• 52:08
  casting director is looking at a wall of actors, that's, you
• 52:11
  know, you. Want you want to stand out right
• 52:13
  now? Here's another question with
• 52:14
  that. So if you're kind of like 5:00
• 52:17
  shadowish right now, so on your head shots, are you going to
• 52:20
  have stuff for your 5:00 shadow, full, full beard, no beard, go
• 52:25
  all that kind of stuff. I learned that I wasn't sure
• 52:27
  what to do and then I showed up to set for when I was doing the
• 52:29
  serial killer on a, on a film I did called Cinephiles.
• 52:34
  And then I just showed up like didn't cut my hair, didn't
• 52:36
  shave. And I was like, you know, just
• 52:37
  do whatever you want to make the character come alive.
• 52:39
  And they're like, no, you're perfect as is.
• 52:42
  And I, I kept myself kind of like, like that.
• 52:44
  And it's like kind of like kind of fun, patchy, like uneven.
• 52:47
  I don't think I can ever grow up an actual full beard.
• 52:49
  And that's been working for me. It's been getting me a lot of
• 52:52
  additions and bookings. So I just keep it that way.
• 52:55
  And I, and then I updated my headshot to keep to show that.
• 52:58
  So you, you want the head touch to show kind of like your, yeah,
• 53:01
  your what you look like today. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:04
  Because if you show him with super long hair, but you know,
• 53:07
  now you now you don't have that anymore, that you're kind of
• 53:09
  tricking the casting director. Right, right.
• 53:12
  So a bald guy who could have a picture bald and have different
• 53:15
  wigs showing. Look, I can do all these types
• 53:16
  of things because I don't have any hair.
• 53:19
  I mean, that's actually not a bad idea.
• 53:21
  Say hey, look at, look at like this wigs I have that really
• 53:24
  make me look completely different.
• 53:25
  I don't know. I don't know about Chris, but I
• 53:27
  don't have a choice anymore so. And that's the fun part about
• 53:32
  voiceover stuff that your look doesn't matter as much as like
• 53:36
  just what you sound like and everything.
• 53:38
  And I've been lucky to do some good voiceover with, but that's
• 53:42
  something I can plug to besides Jesus Land.
• 53:44
  Like there's a show called The Setup that's out now and like
• 53:47
  everything, you know, Spotify, Apple Music, that's a series
• 53:51
  like a comedy audio series. And I play like 5 different
• 53:54
  characters because that's another fun thing about
• 53:56
  voiceover is you can, if you can change your voice enough, you
• 53:59
  can be 5 different characters like, you know, Simpsons.
• 54:02
  It's called the setup. The setup, yeah, Harvey Guillen
• 54:05
  is in it. If you watch What We Do in the
• 54:06
  Shadows, he plays Guillermo in What We Do in the Shadows, The
• 54:10
  Familiar. Right now he's on Broadway doing
• 54:12
  Rocky Horror so and. That's a good play.
• 54:16
  Yeah, I I got tickets for June. I can't wait right now.
• 54:18
  And Christian Navarro was in that show too, from 13 Reasons
• 54:22
  Why. So I have a few scenes with
• 54:23
  them. It's fun.
• 54:26
  And then another one I just did that's not out yet with Mario
• 54:29
  Lopez called the zone of silence.
• 54:32
  Yeah, it's, it's the zone of silence.
• 54:34
  For those that aren't familiar with it is a area in Mexico, a
• 54:37
  real place where like your nothing works, Like your radio
• 54:41
  signals all break. It's got weird.
• 54:43
  Your, your compass goes crazy. It has a huge amount of meteor
• 54:46
  impacts. And there's all these legends of
• 54:48
  like, you know, like Twilight Zone type stuff going on there.
• 54:52
  Yeah so they're gonna the plan is they want they're turning it
• 54:55
  into a TV show and then doing this audio series as a tie in to
• 54:59
  the show. So I'm in the 1st 5 episodes of
• 55:02
  that, but it's not out yet. It's weird, but when it is, so
• 55:05
  check it out cuz Mario was on that drop.
• 55:07
  I'll. Listen to it.
• 55:09
  I got the other one in my Spotify.
• 55:11
  Yeah, the setup, you might have a hard time recognizing me.
• 55:14
  I hope if I did my job, you won't recognize my voice.
• 55:16
  So I do like German accent. I do like speak German.
• 55:19
  Yeah, there was like all this crazy change my voice as well.
• 55:22
  Now I'm going to listen for that, you know that I'll be
• 55:26
  like, there's Nico. Because when the audition came
• 55:28
  in, it says must be able to do Swedish, German accent and
• 55:31
  Brooklyn accent. I was like, well I don't know,
• 55:33
  I'll try. Give me a German accent.
• 55:35
  Yeah. What's that?
• 55:36
  Go ahead. Give me a German accent.
• 55:38
  Oh gosh, I had to because you have to kind of work into, I
• 55:41
  don't know if I can do a cold. I'll try.
• 55:43
  Dus is good to be a DUS Is flying high school.
• 55:45
  Yeah, There's no funny stories in German.
• 55:51
  We don't. We just talk very seriously, you
• 55:53
  know, I don't know. I can't.
• 55:53
  That's good. That was good, man.
• 55:55
  Because when you do an accent, you have to like work really
• 55:58
  hard to get into it. And then, yeah, it's hard to do
• 56:00
  it cold. But but I, I got the part.
• 56:03
  So like I was happy. And the and then Brooklyn, they,
• 56:07
  they never want a real accent. They want like, you know, like
• 56:09
  an exaggerate. They all think we talk out here,
• 56:11
  you know, but we don't talk like that.
• 56:13
  We don't really talk. We don't walk in here.
• 56:15
  It's just like a stereotype. Yeah, but you know, but they
• 56:18
  like stereotypes when you do accents.
• 56:21
  I'm sure. Mm hmm.
• 56:25
  So yeah. So yeah, that was fun.
• 56:27
  I want to hopefully get into more voice over because like
• 56:29
  that's a hard industry to break into.
• 56:31
  So just getting those two and and video games would be great
• 56:34
  because it Rockstarz based right here in New York for like Grand
• 56:37
  Theft Auto. So.
• 56:39
  Yeah, I think so. They're very strict in NDA, like
• 56:42
  if you get an audition, you can't like say anything that
• 56:46
  I've heard stories where they're like they'll blacklist you if
• 56:48
  you've been hinted stuff. So like I think I know I might
• 56:52
  know a friend who might have gotten something, but they're
• 56:54
  not allowed to talk about it. So when the game comes out, I
• 56:57
  really hope they're in it because that would be wild.
• 57:00
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 57:02
  Now, does the voice over work? Is that just in addition to or
• 57:05
  does that pay better because of streaming or why?
• 57:10
  Why do you want to go in that direction?
• 57:11
  Do you enjoy it more? Or I love it yeah, because it's,
• 57:14
  I love acting. So it's not it doesn't have to
• 57:16
  be on camera. So like, and the audio is the
• 57:18
  theater of the mind. It's pure imagination.
• 57:21
  Like it's not a costume, it's not a set.
• 57:23
  You just kind of close your eyes and it's like just like the
• 57:26
  purest of, of pretending and, and there's so many tricks and
• 57:30
  illusions you can do with your voice that are like.
• 57:33
  That's where this kind of crosses into singing and I like
• 57:38
  I was looking at death metal singing techniques so I could
• 57:41
  learn how to scream without breaking my vocal cords.
• 57:44
  Because if you do a. They call it vocal fry vocal.
• 57:47
  Fry, I was, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:49
  It was like, yeah. How I sang in the song, that's
• 57:52
  vocal fry. That's vocal frying.
• 57:54
  But yeah, and you don't really fry your voice.
• 57:56
  You know how to use it because it's a muscle.
• 57:58
  Yeah, it sounds terrible, but it's actually the right way to
• 58:00
  do it. You're banging your vocal cords
• 58:03
  together, what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, it's.
• 58:09
  It's the whole thing is a lot of fun.
• 58:11
  And like, anyone's listening who's thinking about getting
• 58:13
  into acting. I hear this all the time.
• 58:15
  Am I too old? Like.
• 58:16
  I'm 20. AM I too old?
• 58:17
  I'm 40. AM I too old?
• 58:19
  Am I? No, You're never too old.
• 58:20
  And you can learn really fast. Like you can if you take good
• 58:23
  classes and like, even six months, you can start
• 58:25
  auditioning for big stuff if you kind of get it, have a knack for
• 58:28
  it. Yeah, but you're never too old.
• 58:30
  Some people think like, and the older you get, the better you
• 58:33
  are at it because you have more life experience to draw on,
• 58:36
  right? So I get very impressed when I
• 58:38
  see young actors who are good because they have very little
• 58:40
  life experience, because somehow they bring in this pathos and
• 58:43
  despair that it really is like, wow.
• 58:45
  Yeah, well, you know, somebody took their iPhone away when they
• 58:48
  were 12, and that just was monumentally devastating for six
• 58:52
  months. There's my wife showed me this
• 58:54
  in the day, This kid, this kid threw his mother's cat on the
• 58:58
  ground. Right body slammed the cat I
• 59:01
  saw. This so the mom, so the mom made
• 59:03
  the kid slam his PS-5 on the ground over and over and over
• 59:08
  and over again until it was completely destroyed.
• 59:10
  He was, I got to look this he was crying.
• 59:12
  She's like, do that shit again. Do that shit again.
• 59:17
  Just non-stop dude. non-stop. But but rightfully so yeah.
• 59:22
  Be body slammed her cat. Now I'm not a cat fan, but I
• 59:24
  would never body slam a cat. No, yeah.
• 59:27
  We don't wish with harm. No, just stay out of my yard,
• 59:30
  man. Oh my God, I couldn't bear miss.
• 59:33
  I saw the clip on Reddit and I couldn't bear to watch it.
• 59:35
  I just don't want to see like anybody, the kid stuffers.
• 59:38
  I did. I kind of scrolled past it only.
• 59:40
  Oh, that poor kid And I, I. Don't.
• 59:42
  But he kidding. It was a punishment.
• 59:43
  Up to be a serial killer because he started being violent
• 59:47
  animals. And the punishment and the
• 59:49
  punishment fit the crime. Like kid, this is something the
• 59:52
  mother loved. This is something the son loved.
• 59:54
  She wasn't body slamming him. Right.
• 59:56
  Yeah, he was having him body slam something he loved.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, how much that was going to hurt his heart just.
• 1:00:03
  Oh, he hurt her heart. Absolutely.
• 1:00:05
  I think that was a good. I'm with you too, Nico.
• 1:00:07
  I I have a bleeding heart sometimes, but I also have the
• 1:00:12
  tough love where I don't want that kid to grow up to be a
• 1:00:15
  serial killer, you know, So I appreciate that discipline.
• 1:00:19
  My mom would have done the same thing.
• 1:00:20
  Trust. Me, even though we love, you
• 1:00:22
  know, when we love serial killers, but we are fascinated
• 1:00:25
  by. Fascinated by.
• 1:00:27
  Yeah, yeah, I have a T-shirt. They're out.
• 1:00:30
  Yeah, I have AT shirt Nico that has, you know who Jim Jones is?
• 1:00:33
  Yeah, of course. OK.
• 1:00:34
  It says. It says drink up.
• 1:00:35
  Oh. Gosh.
• 1:00:38
  Nobody. We also have a gallows humor.
• 1:00:41
  Right. The first day I wore that, I I
• 1:00:42
  wore it to work out. Nobody, nobody understood.
• 1:00:45
  Nobody. What's your shirt mean?
• 1:00:47
  They're all too young. Really.
• 1:00:49
  No, they're not. Some of them are.
• 1:00:51
  Yeah. Yeah, let's.
• 1:00:52
  They just didn't know. They just didn't understand.
• 1:00:55
  Well they would be the ones drinking the Kool.
• 1:00:56
  Aid and part of what I see, part of it was it's Orange Theory.
• 1:00:59
  So that's the kool-aid at Orange Theory.
• 1:01:01
  So I think some of them were kind of thinking I was making
• 1:01:03
  fun and poking fun of the Orange Theory cult.
• 1:01:05
  You know, I don't know, whatever.
• 1:01:08
  What are you gonna do? Deeper Thinker.
• 1:01:11
  I know, Anything else you want to share with us, Nico, before
• 1:01:13
  we wrap things up? I think I did.
• 1:01:14
  I plugged yeah. Jesus Land, the setup, Zone of
• 1:01:17
  Silence and Jesus Land up. We don't have a release date
• 1:01:19
  yet. This should be 2026 Zone of
• 1:01:21
  silence. No release date yet, but you can
• 1:01:23
  go and listen to the setup. Watch the trailer for Jesus
• 1:01:25
  Land. I gave a shout out to my improv
• 1:01:28
  teacher Carl Kissen, to Beverly Brock of the Brock Agency, and
• 1:01:31
  one of my. Yeah, Beverly.
• 1:01:33
  Hi, Monica. Kathy, my stage acting teacher,
• 1:01:37
  and then Anthony Robert Grassom, he's really good acting teacher
• 1:01:39
  here in New York for camera and film.
• 1:01:41
  I recommend. Hi, Anthony.
• 1:01:43
  And yeah, ARD yeah, I think that's like the major things I
• 1:01:47
  wanted to like, plug and thank all these acting teachers.
• 1:01:51
  You need good acting teachers to get good at acting for sure.
• 1:01:53
  Cool. Absolutely.
• 1:01:54
  Do you have your Oscar speech ready available just in case?
• 1:01:57
  Oh my guys. Thank you, Chris and Mike Show,
• 1:01:59
  of course. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, I will thank Mike. I got I.
• 1:02:03
  Got the I needed to like get noticed for this for heat too,
• 1:02:07
  so then I'll definitely Academy Award for that.
• 1:02:11
  Yes, please. And if you get, if you get cast
• 1:02:14
  in heat too, you get to invite us to contact us.
• 1:02:16
  The you know, I want to go there and watch quietly in the
• 1:02:19
  background. We're there.
• 1:02:21
  You know, yeah. You just, you just you can put
• 1:02:23
  some blood pellets on me. I'll just be a dead guy and
• 1:02:25
  just, you know, be in the moment.
• 1:02:27
  I would enjoy that. When your stuff comes out, when
• 1:02:32
  you have release dates, if you want to, by all means, reach
• 1:02:34
  out, come back on the show. We can talk about it.
• 1:02:36
  Or after release, we can talk about it.
• 1:02:38
  You can talk about all the fun things that you do when movies
• 1:02:40
  are released and things like that.
• 1:02:41
  Because yeah, yeah, I could. I could see having more and more
• 1:02:43
  conversations with you because, you know, you're very laid back
• 1:02:47
  and cool. You're exactly who Beverly said
• 1:02:49
  you're going to be, which I totally appreciate that,
• 1:02:50
  Beverly. So, you know, we're all about
• 1:02:53
  conversation. Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  So we hope you had fun. And again.
• 1:02:56
  Lot of fun. Thank you guys come.
• 1:02:57
  Come back anytime and Monica go fill that thing out.
• 1:02:59
  Let's get you on the show. Then Nico can watch you on the
• 1:03:02
  show because that would be cool. So we wrap things up like this
• 1:03:06
  all the time. If you're feeling sad,
• 1:03:07
  depressed, suicidal, don't do it.
• 1:03:08
  Tomorrow is a better day with you waking up in it.
• 1:03:11
  Go outside, go run, go journal, go workout.
• 1:03:13
  If you cannot find someone to talk to, then text 988.
• 1:03:15
  Somebody's standing by right there to help talk you off that
• 1:03:18
  ledge and and change your mindset.
• 1:03:21
  Don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you take
• 1:03:23
  your own life. It's not the way to end your
• 1:03:25
  day. For Chris and Mike, this is the
• 1:03:27
  Chris and Mike show. And we had Nico Farrell, actor
• 1:03:29
  out of New York City. Check him out, just Google the
• 1:03:31
  name. You're going to see all this
• 1:03:32
  stuff probably. And he's got lots of things
• 1:03:34
  coming up. He's going to have a really,
• 1:03:35
  really cool life ahead of him. He's going to drop our names in
• 1:03:39
  his Oscar acceptance thing and that's really cool.
• 1:03:42
  So then Mike and I'll know we made it because we were
• 1:03:45
  referenced at the Oscars. Absolutely.
• 1:03:47
  Thank you so much, Niko. Yeah, appreciate.
• 1:03:49
  You, Niko. Thank you guys.
• 1:03:51
  Valuable. We appreciate it very much.
• 1:03:52
  Till next time, peace. Peace.
• 1:03:55
  Love you brother. Love you too man.