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Scrubbing in Paradise with Susie Evans · Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad

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  Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Beca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you could tell, but that is not Tanya. We have
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  Speaker 2: a special guest filling in for Tanya as my co
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  Speaker 2: host today, we.
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  Speaker 3: Have Susie Evan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I knew Tanya was going out of town,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, who would I want to chat with
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  Speaker 2: for around forty minutes? And flattered, I know, And I
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  Speaker 2: also was like, I don't know, really, your freedom of
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  Speaker 2: being able to chat right now, right now? Yeah? So
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  Speaker 2: I reached out with fingers crossed and it worked out.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm so happy you're here.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, I know. My manager was like, do we
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  Speaker 1: need to get this approved? We should we just do it?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like we should.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm such a rule follower again, It's like we
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  Speaker 4: should do we should just find out And then they
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  Speaker 4: were like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I was like, great, Okay, let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: They're pretty strict with their rules, yeah they be.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just so scared of like getting sued every day.
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  Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, I was. I really lived with a
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  Speaker 2: lot that fear for a long time. Literally, I would
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  Speaker 2: say five years in I was still scared they were
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  Speaker 2: gonna sneak. Did I do anything?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I constantly feel guilty.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, can they like go back through my posts
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  Speaker 4: in every interview for the past five years and search
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  Speaker 4: for something?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: You've had a whirlwind.
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  Speaker 1: I've had a whirlwind. I'm fine now.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't fine for a little bit, but I'm like
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  Speaker 4: totally fine.
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  Speaker 1: Now what was it?
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  Speaker 2: Was it just the anxiety because I was watching your
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  Speaker 2: Instagram stories and it was like friends and it was
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  Speaker 2: just like dark dark time. But I was thinking, I
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  Speaker 2: remember that feeling of And I don't know that anyone
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  Speaker 2: can understand unless you have had a specific like reality
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  Speaker 2: TV experience, right, specifically a dating reality TV experience. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so real, because you are not in control over what
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  Speaker 2: they show in terms of what what scenes or conversations
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  Speaker 2: you had or clips that you where you said certain things.
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  Speaker 2: So you're just really hoping for the best for the best.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will say I've had both times the
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  Speaker 4: show aired I was. I was super anxious about it,
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  Speaker 4: and this time, I would say even more so than
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  Speaker 4: the first time, even though I would say the first
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  Speaker 4: time there was way more room for like chopping things
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  Speaker 4: up and like making me look a certain way, and
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  Speaker 4: I was just kind of like, well, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: But it was still anxious, but.
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  Speaker 4: This time it was literally I was there for twenty
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  Speaker 4: four hours, and the anxiety I felt from leaving until
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  Speaker 4: it airing like I have not been this anxious since
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  Speaker 4: I literally gone anxiety medication in twenty eight when I
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  Speaker 4: thought I would, like I literally convinced myself that I
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  Speaker 4: was dying. No I know, and and that was like
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  Speaker 4: like staying up late like panic attacks like that was
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  Speaker 4: like my pre bachelor era, and literally my life got
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  Speaker 4: so much better. I like went to therapy, you know,
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  Speaker 4: dealt with anxiety, and I'm like, I'm I'm a champ
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  Speaker 4: at this, Like I have the tools and my toolkit.
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  Speaker 1: No I didn't. I didn't have the tools.
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  Speaker 4: So it was like, really, I don't know why this
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  Speaker 4: time in particular, it was so there was so much
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  Speaker 4: anxiety about it for me.
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  Speaker 2: I also think there's something about being naive going into
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  Speaker 2: a situation, and you literally kind of said, like, we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens. And it's kind of a care free
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  Speaker 2: attitude because you really don't know what to expect. You
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  Speaker 2: don't know till you know. Yeah, And so this time
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  Speaker 2: you knew there was like a very big storyline I
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  Speaker 2: know going in that you knew really right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think it would be This is where
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  Speaker 4: I was naive going in.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be that big of a deal.
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  Speaker 4: Like I knew there was gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of like ex drama whatever. But me and Justin were
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  Speaker 4: so like before we went, we were like in no contact,
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  Speaker 4: and then we both knew that the other one was
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  Speaker 4: probably gonna gok. We reached out right before the show.
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  Speaker 4: We had a conversation, what's you know, fair to talk about?
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  Speaker 4: What's not fair to talk about? There's so much love
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  Speaker 4: there that we were like, we don't want to hurt
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  Speaker 4: the other person, Like we don't want to like air
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  Speaker 4: out and nobody wants their dirty laundry eared out, Like
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  Speaker 4: nobody wants to like talk about, you know, the things
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  Speaker 4: that didn't work in a relationship. So we were just like,
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  Speaker 4: let's just like protect each other, go have fun. It's
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  Speaker 4: like kind of I mean, for most people, once in
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  Speaker 4: a lifetime experience and it's like just so fun.
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  Speaker 1: I did not think it would like blow up the
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  Speaker 1: way that it did.
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  Speaker 4: I just was like, yeah, whatever, Like again, it was
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  Speaker 4: naive to think, I guess, but I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: You were pretty emotional, like right off the bat that
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  Speaker 2: we saw, I guess in the conversation with him, And
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  Speaker 2: were you shocked by that or did you know that
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  Speaker 2: it was going to be emotional coming in and being
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  Speaker 2: in like a dating environment with him.
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  Speaker 4: I think, well, okay, So I mentioned this on a
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  Speaker 4: different podcast as well, nixt podcast. I feel like this
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  Speaker 4: is kind of where it is like up to the
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  Speaker 4: discretion of the show to show what they want. Like
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  Speaker 4: I I feel like it looks like I was just
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  Speaker 4: like so sad and I was like, oh, like this
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  Speaker 4: is really hard, but like I feel like I showed
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  Speaker 4: up and I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Last actually, it's like I was so ready to have
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  Speaker 1: fun and then everybody was like, you know what, it's
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  Speaker 1: actually been such a long day and like we're just tired,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like wait, I was like I just
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  Speaker 1: got here.
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  Speaker 4: Like everyone's tired, everyone's going to bed. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: people are out on a date, and like people are
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  Speaker 4: bummed because their guys got taken on dates. And I
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  Speaker 4: was like, nobody wants to like have fun right now.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's like waiting to get told that we can.
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  Speaker 1: Go to bed.
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  Speaker 4: And I was literally, by the way, I got picked
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  Speaker 4: up from my hotel at nine thirty pm, Oh dang, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And so I don't know what time I arrived there,
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  Speaker 4: and but I just know everyone was tired, and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, what the heck.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to play, like I literally
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  Speaker 1: want to like come have fun.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like I came in on such a buzzkill,
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  Speaker 4: and I think I realized very quickly. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: there's like three dudes here like that, because two of
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  Speaker 4: the guys were out on a date, and so I
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  Speaker 4: was like, okay, there's literally Dale, my ex, my ex's
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  Speaker 4: friend Jonathan, which he's my friend too, but like you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, off limits.
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  Speaker 1: And then who.
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  Speaker 4: Else was Oh Spencer, And I was like Spencer very
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  Speaker 4: obviously like locked in. I felt like dam I felt
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  Speaker 4: like locked in. I was like, he's not even look
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  Speaker 4: in my direction.
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  Speaker 1: Dale seemed kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of locked into and I've met Dale three times before
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  Speaker 4: and he's never remembered me. So I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think he's interested. Yes, I'm pretty sure. Even on Paradise,
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  Speaker 4: it was like nice to meet you, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I posted a picture with you on my Instagram story, like,
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, there's no one here for me.
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  Speaker 4: I was like so sad, and like I was just
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  Speaker 4: like bummed. I was like, oh, I'm going home, and
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  Speaker 4: like I just spent the past two months walking an
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  Speaker 4: hour every single day, like literally I have been like
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  Speaker 4: putting spray tan on, like trying out every makeup haack
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  Speaker 4: in the book. Like I was so prepared to like
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  Speaker 4: live my best life. And I was like, I'm going home.
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  Speaker 4: And so then and right before coming, I had just
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  Speaker 4: gotten some blood work done for freezing my eggs, and
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  Speaker 4: I like got I literally when I landed in Costrica,
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  Speaker 4: got back information. So in that first conversation with Justin,
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  Speaker 4: I like shared with him that info about my eggs,
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  Speaker 4: which is very emotional for me. I feel like I
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  Speaker 4: cry every time I talk about it. And it was
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  Speaker 4: nothing like crazy or tragic, but it was just like,
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  Speaker 4: oh dang, like I'm dealing with this new chapter of
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  Speaker 4: my life.
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  Speaker 1: And like, it's just a lot, and so.
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  Speaker 4: Then of course, which I wouldn't expect the show to
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  Speaker 4: air that, but then of course, like I get emotional,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, it's just a lot, and that's what makes
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  Speaker 4: the cut, you know, which is fair, Like they why
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  Speaker 4: would they show like a thirty minute conversation we had
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  Speaker 4: of me talking about my eggs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it is kind of it is kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting because y'all were together, so it is it
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  Speaker 2: could have been a good interesting conversation, but of course
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  Speaker 2: it made it feel y'all's breakup was a lot more
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  Speaker 2: heavy for you, well honestly for both of you.
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  Speaker 3: Because I felt like he was emotional too.
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  Speaker 2: So it just felt like to me as a viewer,
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  Speaker 2: even though I've talked to you and seen you in
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  Speaker 2: person and like kind of know the timeline of y'all's
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  Speaker 2: relationship and stuff, I as a viewer was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, why are they not together anymore? There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of like heaviness and sadness but love for each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's probably true. Yeah, that's probably
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  Speaker 1: very true.
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  Speaker 2: If he had if he and Lexi had stayed and
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  Speaker 2: like dated and then you were still trying to find someone.
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  Speaker 3: How would you have felt watching him date someone else?
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  Speaker 4: I felt fine, Oh yeah, like I and I thought Lexi,
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  Speaker 4: we actually thought it was so funny like this the
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  Speaker 4: day I woke up and we all got ready, we
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  Speaker 4: came out, me and Lexi were both wearing like cherry swimsuits.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, we are very similar. Like this is
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  Speaker 1: actually making a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, okay, and so yeah, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like I don't know, I didn't feel weird about it
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  Speaker 4: at all. I was like, Lexi's great. I think Justin
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  Speaker 4: and I went through a lot in our relationship. We've
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  Speaker 4: both grown so much and like poured into like healing
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  Speaker 4: and being in therapy and like doing things to like
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  Speaker 4: make ourselves better partners for the future. So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: if you found somebody, like, I really didn't feel weird.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I think I was
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  Speaker 1: just emotional.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe this is really lame to say, but I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I was really emotional because I was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 4: got the short end of the stick and I'm going home.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're just selfish.
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  Speaker 2: But I do though they brought you in with an
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  Speaker 2: umbrella and rain, I know you didn't get a jet
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  Speaker 2: ski intro. I heard you say you were like you
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  Speaker 2: didn't even get a slow mo.
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  Speaker 1: No, I've been filming everything in SloMo ever since. Like
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  Speaker 1: I literally have my wedding cameras out, and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: like you should just.
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  Speaker 3: Be like this is how it should have been done.
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  Speaker 4: I know I've filmed like I'll literally like film me
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  Speaker 4: grilling and so motion like tossing shrimp in the air,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I just start like the slow most series. It means
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  Speaker 2: a man when you're tossing your own shrimp, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So after watching that, I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: probably are like, is there a world where y'all get
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  Speaker 2: back together? Yeah? I think I do.
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  Speaker 1: Think that is like a hot topic question I keep getting.
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  Speaker 4: And Jill asked me, like right when we arrived, she
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  Speaker 4: was like, would you like consider because we me and Jill,
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  Speaker 4: we were back in our room. I wish they would
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  Speaker 4: play the inside of our room footage because I didn't
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  Speaker 4: know there were cameras in there.
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  Speaker 1: When we got in literally came in like we.
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  Speaker 4: Were doing somersaults on the bed and she was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: just so you know, like there's cameras in here. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, it's like my butt is
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  Speaker 4: out right now. Vulnerable, yeah, very vulnerable. But she was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: would you go for Justin? And I was like no,
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  Speaker 4: Like if me and Justin were to ever get back together,
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  Speaker 4: like we couldn't do it here, like the level of
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  Speaker 4: conversations we would need to have and like the stuff
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  Speaker 4: we would have to unpack, Like I'm not doing that
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  Speaker 4: on camera, so like we're gonna have to figure this out, eh,
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  Speaker 4: swear like we can like date other people, but like
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  Speaker 4: I would not even consider getting back with Justin on camera,
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  Speaker 4: just because and I think he felt the same way,
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  Speaker 4: like we went through too much together.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, but I'm not bringing my I'm not
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  Speaker 1: bringing my real world to this television show just so
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  Speaker 1: everyone could judge me.
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  Speaker 2: Said this is only ten percent of my real life exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So when he presented to the Rose, were you like,
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  Speaker 2: we're not doing this? How did that happen? Because in
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  Speaker 2: my mind, I thought this doesn't feel fair. I was
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  Speaker 2: also like, Sussie, take the Rose and just stay on
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  Speaker 2: the show when I'm doing I know.
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  Speaker 4: I was so caught off guard. Yeah, like I never
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  Speaker 4: saw that coming. I literally was sitting there after they
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  Speaker 4: sent Jeremy third. I was like, oh wow, like I
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  Speaker 4: really have no storyline here. I was like there was
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  Speaker 4: not even like a question of who Jeremy was picking,
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  Speaker 4: because I'm like they would have put him last if.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, oh, who's he get pick? I was like, dang,
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  Speaker 1: like I got. I was like I'm in and out
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  Speaker 1: of here real quick, and they do not care. And
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  Speaker 1: then when it was Justin last, I was like these
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  Speaker 1: produces are so dumb.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, they think Justin would give me his
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  Speaker 4: road and that anyone would believe, Like I literally was
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  Speaker 4: like this is such a I was like, this is
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  Speaker 4: such a dumb storyline, like no one's gonna think Justin's
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  Speaker 4: gonna give me the rose, Like literally so dumb.
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  Speaker 1: And then he called my name and I was like
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  Speaker 1: what the what the heck?
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  Speaker 4: And then this is where maybe I just need to
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  Speaker 4: reevaluate my brain cells because I was like really realizing,
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  Speaker 4: like I was so unaware that I thought I was
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  Speaker 4: going to go up there, and in my brain, I'm
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  Speaker 4: like Justin and Lexi must have conspired and they both
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  Speaker 4: wanted to save me, so like Justin was going to
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  Speaker 4: offer me the rose first, and when I say no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to go back in line and then him
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  Speaker 4: and Lexi will continue forward cause like if you look,
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  Speaker 4: I like, go up there, and I'm like that's so nice,
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  Speaker 4: but like I can't let you do this. I go
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  Speaker 4: back in line as if the rose ceremony is gonna continue.
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  Speaker 2: I get to me. Yeah, I was like, oh, something
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  Speaker 2: new is happening, right same.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, this is a weird, you know, plot twist,
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  Speaker 4: but like here we go. And then Justin left and
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  Speaker 4: I looked at Lexi and I was like, wait, did
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  Speaker 4: you guys plan this or did you guys talk? And
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  Speaker 4: she was like no, And then I was like, oh god.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was so confused. I was like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 4: So then I run after Justin and of course it's
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  Speaker 4: like I'm in a holding area. They're like just wait here,
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  Speaker 4: we're talking to him, and I'm like, let me go
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  Speaker 4: in there. You know, I don't even know where he was,
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  Speaker 4: like I thought he was around a corner. And then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they make me go back to
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  Speaker 4: the rose ceremony. I thought they were going to like
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  Speaker 4: be like Justin left the rose for Susie, and so
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  Speaker 4: I was crying because I was like, I am not
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  Speaker 4: gonna accept it, Like now I feel terrible that Justin
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  Speaker 4: is also he's chosen to leave, and.
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  Speaker 1: I understood quickly.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, he's like he feels humiliated, like
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  Speaker 4: he was taking a chance by doing that. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was like he had told Lexi or something. Ooh
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  Speaker 4: it was dark times. And so then I was Then
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  Speaker 4: when it went to Jill.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, take the house, take it. Jill was like,
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  Speaker 1: save me from this pressure, let me leave. Yeah, please
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  Speaker 1: send me on my way. I should have never come.
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  Speaker 2: So then you get a call in the airport, Oh
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, sure, okay, were.
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  Speaker 3: You interested in Jeremy?
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was super cute, like I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I didn't know him well enough to be
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  Speaker 4: able to say whether there was any kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Like longevity there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And he even asked me, or I think he asked
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  Speaker 4: me before the rose trem andy, like if we if
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  Speaker 4: I gave you my rose, like would you actually consider
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  Speaker 4: like do you actually see something here? And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, like we can explore it, but also
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  Speaker 4: like I just got here. I don't know you and
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: That's where me and Jill at the beginning were like,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: we are not gonna be begging for roses. You know,
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit there and be like, I you
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: know what, I've been thinking about this since I got here.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: You are everything was looking.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Ever, yeah, because I'm like, I just don't know, Hugh.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: I just like literally spent thirty minutes on jet ski
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: and then we kiss on a David Like that's all
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: I got. So it was like I'm open, but like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to sit here and lie to anybody.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I didn't even know what the
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: question was at this point.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I was asking if Jeremy was someone you were interested.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: In and then the phone call.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: But my thing at this point, oh yeah the phone call.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: So he calls yeah, And at this point you're kind
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: of you've accepted I'm going home.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get me A day I got there, I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm immediately going home.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: There's your arrival.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: When you said I'm out.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Of here, when I was trying to take tequila shots
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: and people were like, hey, it was a great meeting.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to bed, I was like, Okay, I guess
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I'll see myself out I would have been devastated.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: On that note.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I was really sad.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: So he calls, he calls, I'm actually I was actually
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: in transport to the airport, so I technically lied. I
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: wasn't about to get on the plane. I was still
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: in the car. Could have turned around, could have turned around.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: But it was a four hour car ride. I mean
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: you were about three hours ago. Oh oh Yeahad also
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: on the way to the airport, the drive her fully
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: got off the side of the road and like we
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: went and had a full meal together, just him and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: I and like he has is he single?
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: He has two sons? Oh okay, and there I know.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: And I was like, using my little bit of Spanish,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: I have a full video. I was just like recording
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: myself trying like Coastareacan food.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: And then we ended up.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Talking about his sons and I was like are they hot?
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: And he was like yeah, like a cute. And I
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: was like, maybe we maybe we take this thing off
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: roading and turn around and.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Your locals who did Susie, God, that would be like
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: my actual dream.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's the actual dream.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I got the call and I was like
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: I just felt so bad. I was like I don't
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: know what's going on with Bailey right now, but I
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I really did feel I mean, they looked so cute together.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, you guys really do have something special.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on that you're calling me.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I figured somebody came in and took her on a date,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: you know, And so that was fit.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was hard to watch.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I was like.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Whoa and then yeah, and then I like I knew
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: if I came back, I'd be in a love triangle.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: So I was like, I don't want to like come
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: back to that. Yeah, and like I would have been
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: so sad that Justin tried to sacrifice his rose for
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: me and then went home. And then I'm like, you
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: know what, I'm actually gonna go back.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: He's like text never, why is her phone not on?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Exactly? Literally she should be back. So I'm assuming y'all
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: have talks or y'all talk once you went home?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Yes soon for y'all in contact.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I was blowing up his phone. I was like, what happened?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Why did you do that?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Why did you leave?
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Like I was immediately like as soon as like as
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: soon as I put the pieces together that like this
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: was not conspired between him and Lexi I was like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like, why why didn't I go up
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: to the rose like podium and be like can we
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: have a conversation like and I guess for context, like
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: he thought Jeremy was giving me the rose like he
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: had told me earlier in the day. He was like, well,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I know Jeremy's didn't give you the rose and I
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: was like, I don't. I actually don't think so, yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And so I think he really thought I was going
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: to have a rose. And then right before the rose ceremony,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: he said, because they separate the guys and girls before
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: you walk in. He said that they he found out
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: like in that moment that Jeremy was picking Bailey, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: he was like it was like a in the moment
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: decision of like what do I do?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And I guess Like talking.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: To him post show, he said that he felt like
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: it wasn't super solid with Lexi and he was like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I figured you were getting the rose from Jeremy and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: then moments before it was like, wait, do I really
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: just let this person I care about go home? And like,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: and I think that we both in our conversations beforehand,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: we had both said like we know one of us
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: is probably going to get screwed over when we go,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Like someone's going to be brought into like disrupt or whatever.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't think it would be me. I was like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: if you want me to pull any man away from
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: a woman, I won't. I will gladly go home and
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: bury my head in my pillow and cry. Well.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think people realize, and I don't know if
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: it's changed at all, but when you go on Paradise,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you you just say like you're just saying I want
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: to go, but you have no control or awareness of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: when you're going to be sent in, right, So like
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you could literally go the last day for all you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I know, right, Like, yeah, that's still how it is.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So you and Justin knew that you were both going,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: but you didn't know if you were going to go
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: first or he would be there once you got there,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: right I did?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I hope I'm allowed to share this, But the producers
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: did give me a headset that he was down there already,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: because it was really nice of them. Yeah, I felt,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: And I also like, I think I would have figured
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: it out because I was like, there's no way I'm
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: sitting in this hotel for nine days or whatever it was,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: and Justin's not already down there. Yeah, there's no way
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: that we're both going to be late arrivals, you know, right, Like.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: At the same time Bombshell was entering at the same time.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Imagine we walk in hand in hand.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: They're like, why are they here?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Literally, so you talk after the show, you blow up
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: his phone? Yeah, and where are y'all? Now We're in
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: really good terms. We share a managers.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: So we had been actively avoiding each other prior to Paradise,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Like we both were at stagecoach and I would somebody
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: would be like, oh, just so you know, Justin's on
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: the way, and I'd be like, great, I'm actually rapping
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: up my night.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go home. Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So we were very much like I didn't want to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: run into him.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I ran into him at the Super Bowl and I
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: think that was the last time I like ran into
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: him in the wild, which was in February.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't want to do that again, Like I
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: just it was just like too much. I was like, I, yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I don't want to run into him anywhere. And we
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: were in no contact. So coming off this show. It
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: definitely brought us back into each other's atmosphere. Like I
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: was immediately like we both were mad at each other.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Low key.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: He was like, why didn't you take the rose? And
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, why'd you give it to me? Like what
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: are we doing? Like, oh my gosh, but we both
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: were like I'm joking when I say we're mad at
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: each other because there was so much I was like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I know that you were doing that with love for me,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: and obviously when you paint the picture of like what
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: he was experiencing, I'm like, Okay, I get it, you
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: know I And then when he sees where I'm coming
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: from where he's like, oh, you literally just had a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: conversation telling this girl to pursue me.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: How crappy would that be if you are like, yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: date him?
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Like we're moved on from each other, like blah blah blah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, I'm like, actually, I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: gonna take your rose. Like we both were just trying
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: to like be selfless. I think that's kind of a
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: thing that was happening. And so we went on a
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: trip with our management company in Mexico. So I'm like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: we're hanging out in Mexico doing like partying, having fun
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: like whatever. There have been like pick up all events
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: that our management company is either a part of or throwing.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: We share a lot of the same friends, so we've
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: not divvied up the friend group in the divorce yet,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: you know, like some people you're like, oh, who did
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: you get in the breakup? We still share a lot
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: of our same friends, and so for a long time
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: it was like, Okay, well, game night this week is
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: not with Justin or not with Suzie or whatever. Yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and now we're just you know, we're on really great
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: terms and like I think we love each other so much,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and like probably if.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: We were to ever move on from each other, we'd
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have to probably go back.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: And I just don't think an ex or a future
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: boyfriend or a girlfriend would be like, yeah, I'm totally
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: cool with this.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: They won't.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gonna have to figure that out and
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: maybe divvy up the friend group or go back to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: coexisting the.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Way we were before the show talk about getting back
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: together after all this or I mean.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: We've definitely had conversations of like I think that That's
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: the thing though, is like when you're in no contact,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Like it's much easier to like actually move on, Like
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: we were both dating other people and like you know, yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: moving forward, And I think now it's like a lot
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: of it was just relying on each other for emotional
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: support as the show was coming out. Also, kind of
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: what we were talking about before we started is like
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: there's so much anxiety like leading up to like how
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: is this going to play out?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Like is just going to get a villain?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Edit?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Am I going to get a villain?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Edit? Like we just were so anxious and like it
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: was nice to have each other to like as friends,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: to rely on and be like hey, like I appreciate you.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I understand where you're coming from, But I think right
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: now it wouldn't make sense for us to get back together.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I think we're both like really working on healing and
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: like I think we both have a lot of like
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: individual growth before we would be ready to like either
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: visit a relationship with each other or even like in
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: general just like going through this experience, Like I was like,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: really I was like, gen I feel like I had
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: to like mourn without the experience. Like I was so
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: excited to like do something again with the Bachelor, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: it was just such a big disappointment. I was like
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: pretty low about it for a while, and I really
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: regret it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I still kind of just wish I hadn't gone.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I just wish I had not gone back,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: even though like they treated me fine and like they
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: didn't do anything bad to me.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It's just that like the situation.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wish I hadn't gone. But yeah, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: think we Yeah, I think we're both just like focused
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: on individually healing and if that were to be a
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: conversation later, like it would be down the road.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But when we've both like been in some intensive therapy.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it sounds like as of right now you're
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: not each other's person, but it's not fully off the table,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like you're not like never again.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I yeah, I don't feel that way, and I didn't
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: feel that way before, but I but it was enough
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: for us both to be like we can't be in contact,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, before the show,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: it was like you broke up in early January, ran
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: into each other in February. But during that whole time,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: it's like we were like this isn't We're never gonna
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: be able to move on if we like stay friends.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: So I just don't think there's any way to do
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like I think you have to. I think no contact
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: sounds like the hardest thing in the world, but I
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: also think it's the only way to to move on
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: from someone. I agree, especially when y'all have a lot
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of love and respect and it's not like someone did
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: as far as I know, something like that you can't
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: come back from. It was more just like we need
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to like be on our own to grow, but like
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: there wasn't anything catastrophic that happened, which almost makes it harder.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Like sometimes you doesn't wish someone did something terrible literally
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: so you had a reason to be like I never
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: want to talk to you again.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make it so easy, It really would.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And even I feel like people always say like, oh,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: you and Clayton stayed friends, and I'm like, yeah, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: we also went a full month without any communication, like
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: no contact, and then we were going to be at
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: an event together or something, and we reached back out.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: We had a conversation. We both like time heals so much.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: And yes, I would personally say me and Clayton are
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: on great terms, but like we're not friends.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I like talking on the daily or hanging
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: out totally.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I feel like and I think because our
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: lives are public, like it probably gets this label of like, oh,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I'm still friends with my exit. I'm like, well, we're
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: not actually like friends, but I still care about the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: person and like, you know, respect him or whatever.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, well I wanted to ask about your reality
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: TV day since she brought it up.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: But we're going to take a break and we'll be
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: right back. All right, we're back.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: So first of all, you're a big reality TV girl,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: because I was listening to your podcast.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I was listening to The Vile.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Files with you on it, and I was like, she
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: loves you love reality TV?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, ever since going on it? Oh really yeah not
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: before never before.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Interesting See yeah, I guess I kind of was the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: same way, but more so Haley loves reality TV. So like, yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: she is a.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Huge Bachelor fan.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: That's so funny.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And she tried to lie and say she hadn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: watched my seasons, but then I found out she did.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It's like it's okay, like it's a big show. It's
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: not like this like niche like embarrassing show that no.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: One watches like ninety eight Fiance or.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Something like Jenner Branderson watches at the time, watch The Bachelor.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, you're fine, Yeah, you can admit it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But anyways, so now I'm into reality TV. But I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: heard you talking about how Love Island was just like
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: disappointing this season compared to last season, which I think
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: was the sentiment of the USA as a whole. Yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: And I didn't watch last season live, so I tried
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to binge it to talk about on the podcast, but
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: it was like thirty episodes that I had to binge,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and I think I did it in like a week,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: which was a brain rot that I don't wish on anyone.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And so I kind of hated it because I was like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I don't get the appeal. Yeah, and then I watched
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: this season live and I was like, I get the
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: camaraderie of like all of us being in it together,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: but I agree, there was just this lack of rooting
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: for anyone.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, That's how I felt. I was like, I feel
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: like there's no like genuine connection to like I don't
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: know the root for Like, it just felt like I
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: It was not and don't get me wrong. Individually, I
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: like a lot of them, and I'm like, oh, they
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: were great like people to watch and individually root for,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: But there weren't a lot of couples with like highs,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: lows pits.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like peaks. I was just like and then like
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: cosa more.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what a brilliant twist of a show, But
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: like there was, it doesn't make any sense when there's
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: no couples.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It was like, what's the point, what's the point?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Save them or just send them all in, send a
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: bunch of bombshells and let it just be chaos.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you were talking about how different it feels
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to watch, y'all. We're talking about how different it feels
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to watch people kiss on Love Island make out on
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Love Island versus Bachelor and Paradise. And it was so
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: jarring to go from Bachelor and from Love Island challenges
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to that challenge on Bachelorne Paradise where they were in.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: The tent to kissing booth. Yeah, why is that?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I that's a great question, And I don't know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I feel like so, I was like listening to some
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: people talk about Love Island through the context of like
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: they'll do these crazy, like sexualized challenges where they're literally
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: like it's like sometimes like soft porn, Like it's bizarre,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: and it's kind of like it kind of got to
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: be too much for me.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: This season. I was like, I don't know that I'm
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: like into this, like, oh, it's a little Actually.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: The milk thing was so gross.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I was physically like I can't watch this. Yeah, And
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: then the makeout sessions and they're grinding on each other
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, are we getting old or is it?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Like I feel literally like a grandma. I have my
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: grandma now like these children on TV.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: But then they go from these challenges to then being
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: in the villa and it's like, oh, we haven't made
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: out yet outside of a challenge, yes, And I'm like
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: what you're literally like practically doing it, and then you
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: like don't kiss outside of a challenge, Like that's so
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: bizarre to me. Where I feel like in the back world,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: it's like or at least this season, it's like there's
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: these challenges now and they're like maybe maybe the thing
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: is that like the Bachelor's like romanticized in a sense,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: like I think of The Bachelor, it's more romantic.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: But I don't know how you felt on the show.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, like this is too
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: romantic for me, like when something would be like so
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: grand and like oh yeah, I was like, I don't
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: even know you, but like this is like really a
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: big gesture where like, I don't know, it just felt
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: like there's a lot of pressure on these moments to
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: be like beautiful and romantic where it's like you're in
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: this like flowy like like kissing booth, and I was like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: it just is like it's like a juxtaposition.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I think The Bachelor has always almost like I think
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it prides itself on this like romantic love story that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: they're trying to create, and there's always been a there's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: always been a type of person that they have on
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the show, especially when it comes to the women, and
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: so I think that seeing them try to into this
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: like challenge space of like chemistry tests and what Love
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Island's doing feels forced.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Because it's like that's not why people watch the Bachelor franchise.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember on a group date, Chris Souls
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: took me up to this like the rooftop. Yeah, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: had like all this like moment romantic and I just
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: listened to all the girls talk about making out with him,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and so I go up there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like a virgin.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like very selective of who I've kissed, and I'm like,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: my parents are gonna be watching this, and I felt
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: like he was gonna kiss me, and I was like
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to kiss right, Like, if we're gonna kiss,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be like our moment and not on
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a group day where you just kissed everyone. So I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: really felt what you're talking about, where like everything felt
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: very grand and like trying to make it romantic. Yes,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: but I'm like he just made up with every other
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: girl in this state, and I'm like the last one.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I literally I remember were seeing Clayton with lipstick on
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: his slip at one point and I was like, get
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: me out of here.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm tapping out. I was like I can't because yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I just knew in one girl.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Like I think it was Eliza. Literally
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: loved her. She was so it was such a funny moment.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: She came back and like or she like put lipless
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: on before she left.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: She came back.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Her lips were like dry as a bone, and we
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: were like, we know what you were doing. But then
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, Susie, it's your turn, and you're like, oh,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: like I cannot.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Like what number am I?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Literally?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And they also don't show that it's a turn thing,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like they just think that we go up and interrupt
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: when we want, but there is like an order to it,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: so you don't really get to choose your your moment
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of when you get to kiss him, if you were
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: going to kiss him, I know, but yeah, there was
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Caitlin Bristow would wear this like really bold lip color
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and I'd be like, I know, he has that all
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: over his face. So she'd come back and I'm like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you just got purple lipstick all over She'd be so funny. Okay,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: so your reality TV days, Yes, in the dating world,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: are you? Are you retired?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I have to be done. Unfortunately, what if?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: What if?
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: What if Love Island came to you?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, never Love Island.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I've been I like did a funny bit where I
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: tried to be funny bit where I was like, I'm
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: trying to get recruited by Love Island. Meanwhile, I'd already
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: filmed Bachelor in Paradise, so I was like, I know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: like my contract wouldn't let me go anyways, but I
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: was just doing it as a bit and I went
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: home to visit my parents and my mom was.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Like, are you trying to go on that show? And
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Mom, No, I was like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it's just for the internet. Like I'm literally just trying
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to get like I'm just clock chasing it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: This is this is content.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: It's content.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm literally writing the coattails of the biggest show
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: of the season, you know, like don't worry.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So like, no, I could never go.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think I would even like be the prototype
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: of what would go on anyways, but like I also
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: couldn't do it. I did get contacted by a show
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: actich I can't say what show, but I like considered
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: it for a hot minute coming off Paradise, and then
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: it's kind of when I hit the lull, the anxiety,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: the like just feeling really sad about it, and I
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: was I was like, hey, appreciate the like so appreciate
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: you reaching out, but like I'm going to pass. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: then like the next day I was like, should I
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: have done that, and then I was like, no, that's
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: the right decision.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And I think now I'm like.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I wanted to, like I would I want to do
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: reality TV again, I'm like down, yeah, but like, what
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: what is my pivot? I'm like, do I do like
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the challenge or like Big Brother Survivor or something that's
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: like more challenge related.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I I've always wanted and I think they did it
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: with Bachelor Game.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: They did something.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I know they did Winter Games, but like there weren't
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: they weren't really challenges.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish they would do a road Rules type
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: show with like actual challenges, but with former Bachelor people
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: or Bachelor people and if people spark a romance, great,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: kind of like show Rules, but that's not the goal
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: of the show, which I know they would never do
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: because the whole goal is to get a rose whatever.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Right, But I've always wanted them to do that.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I would like that feels very on brand for what
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I would want to do. Like that, Like I jokingly
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: said in my like farewell post to Paradise, was like
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: like I just wanted to like go have summer camp.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Like it felt when I got there, I was like,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: this is so fun.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I'm here with a bunch of people, and like, I
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: was so excited to like make new friends and like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: and I was like, that would be more like summer
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: camp if I got to stay. Because I actually didn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: have a connection, I guess, so what, you know, why
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: would I be there? But I'm like, that's what I want, Like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I just want to like hang out and have fun.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: If the gold did the Goldens come in while.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: You were there, they came the next day.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: If they had come and you and one of the
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: men had, they might be more interested in you. Would
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you accept their rose?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: If April was giving the rose to Jonathan the same week,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: then yeah, like sure, but not to.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Be the lone ranger.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I would say no. I
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: think i'd probably do says, Oh, Gary's great.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I know, and he's fun. Yeah, and he doesn't feel
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: like that old to me. No, Yeah, he has a
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: very youthful spirit.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I agree. We'd be coming out of the car together
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: dancing with.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I think Kaylee would let me go on if I
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: could connect with Garrett.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a fair ask, I think, But no,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I think if there was no pressure for it to
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: be a romantic connection. I'd be like, yeah, let's yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: let's team up, let's do this, like for yeah, let's get.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Let's speak to money. Because they've added this money out.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: The Bachelor Paradises thrown me for a loop because every
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: preview there's new rules. I'm like, wait, yeah, I feel
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: again feeling old because they're switching it up on me.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: By the way, the money, well, like all of it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It's like the camera's changed. They have this like all
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the slow most stuff. The intro like yeah, had its
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: thing for so long and it was not just like
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a gradual shift.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: It was this like new location, Yeah, new I think.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Director, Yeah yeah, but what do you think of someone
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: who watch the show?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: You know, how do I say this? Because I love it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I'm just sick to my stomach. I came in with
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: an umbrella, that is what I think. I'm like, I
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: was so here for the rebrand, like I am a
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: wedding videographer.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I love slow motion. I love a drone shot. Like
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I was out on the Seado making hearts with Jeremy.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: I was like, you start here, I'll start there, Like
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: let's make a heart for the drone, Like I was like, so,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I love this so to come in with
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: my the way I came in. I'm sorry if you
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: guys are sick of hearing about it, because I literally
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: was like so bombed, and then watching it back, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: was like, I wasn't even in slow motion with the umbrella.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I was just in twenty four frames per second or
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: whatever they shoot in thirty maybe I don't know, And
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I was like, this is just so sad for me.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: So I actually love the cinematography of it. I'm like,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I love the rebrand. And I haven't been a Bachelor
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: fan for so long, like I started watching like when
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: they first contacted me, which was a couple of years
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: before I went on, And so I don't have this
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: like emotional connection to the old like way that they shoot.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: And I think that I've been saying, I'm like, they
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: need a rebrand, they need a rebrand, they need a rebrand,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and now they did it, and I'm like, I love it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It's a little blue, like the tint is a little
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: it's a little blue.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: But also like maybe that's a psychology hack because people
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: love the color blue. It makes you like gravitate towards things.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe they're like, shoot, they're like, I don't feel election.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not feeling the blue. No, I just I don't like.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: No.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I love I like the I think the cinematography of
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: it is cool, Like I think they really upgraded big time.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I kind of missed the old spot like I miss
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and I kind of miss them all like dying of
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: like heat and like bugs and stuff like there was
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: something nitty and gritty about it. Yeah, but the coloring.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I texted Susie.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, Susie's the only one who has escaped
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: this weird tint, Like you look so beautiful and everyone
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: looks great, but I'm like the camera's almost like not
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: doing them justice.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: You know what. It's probably because my spray tanta was
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: so orange.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: That the blue like contract con Yeah, it like brought
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: me back to a normal shade because I remember at
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: one point seeing my leg next to Jeremy's on.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: The very pinky he looked.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: But I will tell you in real life, I looked orange.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I looked like a cheeto out there, And I was like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I know, because I didn't have enough time to prep
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: my spray tanks, I didn't know I was going in
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: until the day up, so I was just putting on
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: like everything, marinating and like, so that was it probably
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: did me a favor because I was marinated like a cheeto.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: They they didn't let you know, but you hacked the system.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I hacked and nobody knew it at the time.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: You know, I did it. I was like, well, Susie
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: has whatever hurt you routine is?
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: She beat the camera?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Wow, thank you?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: And maybe that's why I got sent home though, because
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: in person they were like, who is this cheeto coming down?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: This cheeto in the rain?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Production assistant coming down?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You know, they could have done something so cool with
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the rain, like if they but you would have had
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to like go of the umbrella and let yourself get drenched,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: but like the slow move of the rain and you
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: being like not the villain walking in but the stirring things.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been great. I would have done it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe you should film that, Yeah, I thought about it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I have a hose.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, I'll come over.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just bring your outfit.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Love.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I really was like trying to think of like funny
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: things because I knew it was going to be bad
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: for me. So I was like, what are some funny
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: things I can do? So I did, Like I loved it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Things I was thinking about, like getting back in the
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: outfit and just like putting like sopping wet hair and
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: then like shooting like a fake im as if I
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: like just got drenched from the water.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So you could. There's so much you could do with it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to work with. Yeah, did you get
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: to see Hannah Brown at all?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yes? Oh you did, but like a hot minute she was.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: It's my first time meeting her. She was so nice.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Wait what why do I feel like y'all would be
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: a best friends?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe we would. I mean she was great.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I literally talked to her for like probably ten minutes
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: before the Rose simony, and I was like, I'm going home,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: but like, it was so nice to meet you.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Like let's chit chats, like tell me about your life.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: She just got married.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I know, she looked so good done.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: The whole thing looked just like magical.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: It really did.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I was so impressed with her social media me too.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Someone she must have had someone just on site getting
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I think, so, which is like so brilliant when you
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: think if you're a content creator, like so smart to
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: have an in person, like social media person, not the photographer,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: but like somebody who's doing like tiktokuff, yeah, behind the scenes.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Like and it's just nice to have that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Like when I was kind of finishing out my wedding
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: videography career, people were starting to bring in people for
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: like a couple hundred bucks a day just to like
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: film bts of their day on their phone because it
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: takes usually like weeks or months for photographers videographers to
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: get the video back, so it's nice to have like
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: immediate content.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Well that's what Tanya was saying that after she had
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a social media person, Ashley there and she Tanya was saying,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: at the end of the night, the whole time we
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: were there, after the rehearsal dinner, they went through and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: got to watch all the videos and because she was like,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: we weren't able to sleep before the wedding, so it
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: was like fun to just go through the videos and
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: then have everything instantly there, not even to have content,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: but mostly memories to have instantly because it's true, it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: such a whirlwind that you know, but I think people
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: see content and they're like, how are you not present
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: or in the moment. It's it's like you're not having
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: to be if you hire someone.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Literally, I saw.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Somebody say something like in her comment section that was
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: like were you even like paying, like were you even
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: like a present or whatever? And I wanted to write
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: back and be like, she probably was so present, like
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: probably more so than a normal bride news not hired
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: someone to do her social media.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, she probably like didn't.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Have to worry about anything, like when it comes to content, like, so,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I think it's so smart even if you're not a
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: content creator, just for the memes's I agree.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have vision? Okay, so you've done so
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: many weddings, have you been to a certain place or
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: venue or like like a destination where you go this
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: is my dream?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: You know what? I that's a great question.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You like beach.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I love I love a beat.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like anything like natury, so like I'm such
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: a beach person that I would so be down for
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: a beach wedding. I feel like for years I was like,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: oh I want a beach wedding and like no shoes.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: I'm also like pretty tall, so I'm like if I
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: marry a short guy, like works out in my favor.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I can just like bury my feet in
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the sand.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: For all the picture.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: You can bear him as well as you need.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Literally, it's kind of genius. So maybe I'll keep that
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: plan going. But I'm also I would so be down
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: for like an elopement and then like a big party. Yes,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like as a wedding videographer, I love weddings.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: I love love, but I'm also like people go into
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: debt or like they don't they can't buy a house
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: because they're like spending so much money on the wedding.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: And I get it, like we all dream about a wedding.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Day, but I'm also like, set yourself up, you know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: like if it's just a if it's an elopement, get
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: like a photographer, you're maybe your best friends or whatever,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: but just like do it for you and then.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Have like a big party to celebrate.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I've talked to Haley about that because we I'm like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I don't I want us to have our dream wedding
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: when we're able to do it without any like to
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: overthink things. So but we've talked about the elopement and
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: then a party. But then, like we've been to so
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: many fun weddings recently, like wedding weekends where we're like, wow,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: it's so nice to have everyone yeah together. Yeah, So
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: we've gone back and forth, But do you have any
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: dues and don'ts for brides as a video as a former,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: are you still doing weddings? No?
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: I would only do them if like a friend needed
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: somebody to But do's and don'ts, I feel like the
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: best thing you can do. I think like a really
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: great coordinator is probably the best thing you can do
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: as somebody who's gonna.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Like like a wedding planner or a wedding yet, like a.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Wedding planner who would also be there on site like yah,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: knows everything and not a free to run the show.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Like I would never be good at that job, but
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: like I would just I would actually make your day worse,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Would be the most stressful part of your day unfortunately.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Literally, where's Becca? She's catering okay, Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And she has no idea what time it is or
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: what time the wedding starts.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was late, so that would literally be me.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So I am not the right person for that job.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: But I think I've seen weddings done often where they're
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: they don't have a coordinator and the bride is so
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: stressed and I feel so bad because I'm like, you
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: spent so much money and you really aren't enjoying the day.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: But if you hire someone or if you have a
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: family friend, I've seen family friends be like someone's cousin
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: and they're like I just love them so much, like
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I'm coordinating their day, and I'm like, that is such
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: an asset and it just a good coordinator or planner.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's the number one tip I would give.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: That's a good one. I agree. I think that's everything.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: It's everything florals and your wedding planner.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: And your music.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: And your music? Yeah, are you doing like a DJ
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: in trusting or a band or do you want to
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: a playlist?
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Say?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Because like a really good live band is so fun,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: but if they're not good, it's tough.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It could be a miss.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: The DJ hits every time, Well, I guess if it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: not a good DJ though, that's true. But everyone I've.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Been too, there's been a really good DJ.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And when the DJ comes on when the band's taking
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a break, fun.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I yeah, I do think a live band is kind
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: of iconic, and then you kind of get the best
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: of both because yeah, they take breaks, you have to yeah, yeah,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: and then you could curate your playlist for in between
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: the band.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I like that, you think I could curry my own
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: DJ playlist. There's something about the transitions of songs that
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: gets everyone up and you here's the thing. You gotta
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: have space where people can sit down and not feel
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: like they're missing out.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you also got to.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Have enough songs that people aren't choosing to sit down, right,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: because there's some songs where you're like, I gotta be
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: a part of this, or if.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: You're like in the bathroom when you hear like yeah
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: by Usher, come on, you're not washing your hands. You're
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: running to the dance floor, like I gotta get every
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: minute of this song.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I hear it over now by Taylor stuff but just
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a wedding song, but it was me. Tanya
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and Sophia had like a moment so on her bachelorette
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: and so I was running down the stairs, like sprinting
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: to the dance floor.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta have the bamers that get people back
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: out there, you know, like you can't sit for too long.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: No, okay, So dating life, you're single.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: Single, mingling, not mingling, not mingling, healing, I think, yeah,
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: I think I'm just like, yeah, I'm just focusing on
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: my mental health and my and honestly, like, I'm gonna
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: get my.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Eggs frison in the next two months. I'm looking at
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the calendar right now. I think it'll be in two months.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: We talk about that. Yeah, what was like, I have
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: gone so back and forth on doing it, and I
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: didn't know was it something that you've thought about for
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: a long time and you finally were just like it's time.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: So I remember when Clayton and I broke up, or
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: we were kind of like talking about breaking up and
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: we were like going through that. I was twenty seven
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: when I went on the show, so it's probably around
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: twenty eight, which is crazy because I'll be thirty two
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: next month. I'm like, that's it blows my mind that
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: that much time has passed.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: But as we were like in the talks.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Of like potentially breaking up, I remember saying to a friend,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, if we do break up, I'm getting
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: my eggs frozen because I feel this like pressure of like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: oh gosh, I'm twenty eight starting over again, and like
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: it just feels like a bit daunting.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And I didn't get them frozen.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: And then then like the next year, I met Justin
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, I'm I'm safe again. I'm like, Okay,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: the trajectory, you know, will be in other five years.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'll be like thirty four, thirty five
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: or whatever. And then we didn't work out, and so
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: it's kind of been this thing of like, Okay, if
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: I if we don't work out, then like I'll get.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Them frozen then or then. And I'm so lucky.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: But my cousin is opening up a clinic in Chicago
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: with a friend who's a doctor, so she's worked in
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: the industry for like fifteen years, and so I'm gonna
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: They're gonna do it in an.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Exchange for me. It's amazing, amazing.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and really because it's so expensive and my insurance
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: doesn't cover it, so I yeah, I feel super super
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: lucky and like hopefully it'll be mutually beneficial for them
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: as well opening a new clinic.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's like very.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Like it has been very emotional for me because like
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I think when I was younger, I didn't even think
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: about kids, and I was like, I don't know, Like
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I was like maybe like maybe, like I didn't grow
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: up with like tons of little cousins, like I was
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: the little cousin, and I was always career focused and
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: I was never like dreamt about my wedding. I just
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: was like it'll all happened, Like I didn't even think
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: to worry about it, Like I just figured life would
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: like fall into place. And now I'm like coming up
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: on thirty two, and I'm like nothing has fallen into place,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: like I need to come up with a plan. And
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: then I find myself like needing to make these decisions
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: in whether it's in relationships or out of relationships, where
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like I need to figure this out right now.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: And like anyone that I've talked to that's frozen their
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: eggs are like, just do it, because that like constant
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: noise goes away when you get the eggs frozen, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: then you're not making decisions based on like a timeline.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: You're making decisions that make sense for right you know
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: what you really want.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I it's interesting because you're thirty two, you said.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: In a month, Yeah, so I feel like all my friends.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Obviously I'm thirty six, so all my friends are in
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: my age range, and so many of them who also
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: had this expectation of like I'll be married with kids
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: by a certain age, like got married, you know, within
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the last few years and are starting to have the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: process of getting pregnant. My other best friend just had
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: her baby and she's thirty seven, and it's like, it
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: is this weird thing because the society is like, you
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: don't have time, you don't have time. But I do
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: think taking control of but also taking control of what
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: you're able to do to put your mind to ease
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: so that you're not making your moves based on those decisions,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: because you don't want to settle for someone based on
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: the timeline that you've created for yourself. Yeah, when you
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: could just freeze your eggs and have that security of
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: knowing you did that and then be able to find
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: the person that's not feel like you have to rush
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: your healing or being single or whatever. You know. So totally,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's just I've always heard, you know, everyone's
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: just like just do it. Yeah, everyone, if you're thinking
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: about it, just do it.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Literally, that's what everyone says. Who's done it.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just was on a girl's chip with
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: literally like thirteen girls I didn't know. Well, yeah, that's
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: very it was, and everybody was so amazing, and they
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: were all older and they were mostly mom but like
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: they were. The woman that really opened up and shared
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: with me was forty two and she just had twins
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: like a year ago, and she froze her eggs like
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: ten years prior and then tried to get pregnant for
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: like ten years, couldn't get pregnant, and this was like
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: their last attempt, and they were the eggs from ten
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: years earlier that she had frozen, I know. And so
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: which is like also a mind like screw when you
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: think about it and you're like, oh my gosh, this
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: these are babies that were like pulled out and fertilized
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: with her same.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Husband ten years ago. So they could be ten right now,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: but they're one.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so yeah, I think it's like everybody that
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I talked to says the same thing.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Just if you're thinking about it and you can.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Afford it, or if you can figure out or if
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: insurance covers it, just do it because it does give
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: you peace of mind. And I think that that has
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: been like an emotional part of like my breakup and
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: even going to Paradise, like and also, can I just
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: say people that have come online because Lexi talks about
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: her journey with freezing her eggs and like endometriosis and
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: stuff like that, I've seen some really nasty comments being
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: like if you're so you know, interested in like getting
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: married and having babies, where are you going on a
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: dating show?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Like you, guys, it's three weeks of our life.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: If we've gone to thirty two and haven't met somebody,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: you think three weeks are going to make that much
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: of a difference in finding the person you're gonna spend
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: your life with, Like, get out of my comment section.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Like so what if it works?
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: And what if it works exactly?
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, you never, I mean I was hopeful,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, I was hopeful that I would meet I
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: kept hearing about this older guy that they were bringing on.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I think it was Dale. They really talked him up
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: and I didn't met him. Yeah, three times I get
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: there and I was like, is this what you're talking about?
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I met him and he doesn't remember me.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so exactly. But he's he was lovely like, when
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I met him, I was super nice. But you know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: for the fourth time, I was kidding. I'm just kidding.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: He was nice all four times times he was pleasant.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: So but yeah, I think that you you know, you go, yeah,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: maybe it works, maybe you meet somebody, and if you don't,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, it's three weeks, like and it's a
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's an amazing experience. Even the twenty four
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: hours I was there, I was like, this was lit.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: I wish I could stay.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Imagine if you had gotten there first, I know the
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: party that you would have thrown for everybody.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I feel like Bachelination does not know the lore of
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: my wild side, you know, because I get edited into
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: a very like.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Your very southern.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: That's what they think, maybe a little bit. But I'm like,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: but also I can throw it down like I will
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: literally yeah, I won't even say it.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if you had already been there and someone
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: came down in the rain with an umbrella, you would
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: have been ripping shots with them.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Literally, I would not let the party not start, you
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm like, oh my god, they
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: sent her down an umbrella, Like I am shaking my
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: ass tonight, Like I am getting on the bar top like, yeah.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Well that was their mistake.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Thanks, and I'll remember for that for you and we'll
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: remember that, thanks guys. But I do hope that What
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: about what's this show where the Strongest Soldier or whatever
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: it's called where you go on and you're like, as
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: a soldier or marine.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Per special Forces, special Forces, you do that one thousand percent? Wow,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I would do it.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I really struggle in the cold, So I'd probably try
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: to get a prescription because I think I have ray
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: nods disease for oh, I think you know, like I'm
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: like your hands, Yes, I turn purple and stuff. So
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I think there's this my doctor told me about this
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: blood pressure pill where like you can take it. So
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, if I can get the blood pressure pill,
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I will do it.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do some testing before we put you in this.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like talking a big game and then I'm like,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I'm actually going home. Nate one here too.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I think the sleep part would be the end of me.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I think that not sleeping in a comfortable cozy space
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: would be where I like succumb.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh you're a shower before bad girl, right, I
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: saw you post.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: About that thousand, are you not?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: No, I'm a dirty Yeah, I'd thrive.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, no shower for a week, per I
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: take out the contestants by not wearing deodorant like I
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: would like, I'd be like I'm sending everyone home with
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: my body odor.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I'm joking.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I'm joking. I would shower.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I'm joking.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: But like I would thrive in like a dirty environment.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I really think I would, Like, I really think I
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: would thrive. Like the bed thing doesn't bother.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Me, Like what about pooping those stalls?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Just knowing that you have to have a buddy would
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: would bother me with the pooping.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: But like I'm also like constipated half the time, so
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like I probably wouldn't poop the whole time.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I'm there.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Who's your like celebrity crush?
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, very oh, this is gonna be like so on
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: brand very specifically, Like it's Jake Jillenhall in the movie
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Everest when he's got like the long hair and he's
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: like like a mountain man.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm a Taylor Swift fan.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: So oh no, that's actually it's like specifically that movie character,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, Oh, way, you've got
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: an image like that right there, like sure, like I
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: know that's why I'm like, I feel like.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: If there are someone who's not a character, okay.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Joe Jonas always was like she has ranged,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: she has range, And then Michael B. Jordan, I feel like,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: oh that's everyone I know.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, those are like the Jake Joenhill one
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: through me, but the other two are very standardly yes,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: except yeah, okay, so Michael B.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Jordan is your poop buddy at.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: No, I'm out, I'm tapping. I'm like, I will hold.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: It, Okay, I will hold it. How strong you are?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: No, oh my gosh, literally that would be like the
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: end of me. But like if you were there.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: But what about Jake John Hall and Everest. He seems
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: like he'd be down to be your.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Might not judge me, Yeah, that's actually he might like it,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Like that would be that might be the love story,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the love story.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: I would just tell whoever I'm with, I'm like, plug
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: your ears please, Like I just like don't even want
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: the thought even like I get pea sh eye sometimes.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: So I think it would be a lot that that
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: would be a hard part for me.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: But the sleeping, the being dirty. I think even.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: I'm talking a really big game, but I'm like getting
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: dropped into cold water in a vehicle buckled in. I'm like,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: kind of sounds like a thrill.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I need to see you on this. This
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: is a lot of This is a lot of confidence.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I know, it really isn't I And I'm going to use.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Our voiceover for your intro, this SloMo intro.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I think a panic attack. Yeah, literally time. Yeah, I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: can't get it unbuckled.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on and being so
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: open and sharing, and I just love you. I can't
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: wait to see what your next reality journey is.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Maybe something less than Special Forces, but not as sincere
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: is the Bachelor.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the middle, you know what is that?
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I think? What did you say?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Road road Rules?
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Like the challenge?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like I haven't watched the challenge, Like I
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: used to watch Road Rules, but I haven't watched the challenge.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I've dabbled, but like not really but yeah, maybe something
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: in the middle. We'll see. But Okay, I love you too.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: You're the best and we just wish you the best.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: What's where can people follow you? What's next for you?
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Just Susie c Evans on Instagram. Susie was like.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: TikTok and yeah, just figuring out the next steps in life.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: We love it.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Bye bye