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- 0:00Welcome back to trauma free relationship podcast.
- 0:03I am so glad that you are here in this episode.
- 0:07Now it's a big one because it's a question almost everyone with
- 0:12relational trauma asks at some point.
- 0:15And the question is this, is it my trauma or is it the
- 0:19relationship? So on today's podcast, we're
- 0:23going to explore how to tell the difference, what red flags to
- 0:26look out for, and how to trust yourself when confusion and self
- 0:31doubt take over. So if you've ever asked
- 0:34yourself, am I overreacting? Am I being too sensitive?
- 0:38Is this really not OK? This episode is for you.
- 0:43Welcome to trauma free relationship.
- 0:45I'm your host, Tom Phil and I've been working for years with
- 0:49adults who struggle with relational trauma to regain
- 0:52trust in themselves and others so that they can experience a
- 0:56safe and secure relationship. Let's get started, OK?
- 1:09As I said at the opening, this one's a special 1 today because
- 1:13this one is something that I think all trauma survivors at
- 1:17some point when they're in a relationship, ask themself, and
- 1:21that is, is it me? Is it my trauma, or is it the
- 1:25relationship? And how do they tease that
- 1:28apart? How do they tell the difference
- 1:30between perhaps an overreaction on their part or reading danger
- 1:36when there really isn't danger versus something that's not OK
- 1:40in the relationship? And when I'm working with a lot
- 1:43of my individuals, working with a lot of my couples, this is
- 1:46something I really helped them learn how to do.
- 1:49How do we tease that apart? How do we know the difference
- 1:52between, oh, this must be something from my trauma that's
- 1:56coming up for me right now, not necessarily something that's in
- 2:00the relationship itself. So if you've been abandoned, if
- 2:05you've been rejected, betrayed, or for prolonged periods of time
- 2:09felt unsafe in your relationships in the past, then
- 2:13your nervous system has primed you to protect yourself.
- 2:17And as I've said thousands of times on this channel and
- 2:20probably will say thousands more, you are made for
- 2:23protection as much as you are made for connection.
- 2:28Those two systems within you are are you're just born with them.
- 2:34They're there and they're somewhat of equal balance, at
- 2:37least before trauma happens. So your body being primed to
- 2:42protect you is doing what it's supposed to do.
- 2:45This is this is not something that's broken inside of you.
- 2:49This is something that's working the way it's supposed to work so
- 2:52you don't look, get re traumatized when you come across
- 2:56something similar. It's there to protect you,
- 2:59whether that might look like hyper vigilance, meaning seeing
- 3:03danger where there may not be any danger, or it might look
- 3:08like shutting down, avoiding closeness, or even maybe
- 3:12questioning your worth when somebody gets too close
- 3:15emotionally, too near, too connected to you.
- 3:19These types of things are in place because your body has
- 3:22learned to adapt to a situation or many situations that were
- 3:28adverse in your life and in your relationship.
- 3:32So yes, sometimes the problem is the trauma.
- 3:38Sometimes the problem is the pattern of protection that you
- 3:43have adopted and the strategy you've adopted in order to keep
- 3:48yourself safe. But then, as we're also going to
- 3:51learn today, sometimes it's not the trauma, sometimes it is the
- 3:55relationship. So when you feel a wave of panic
- 4:01when your partner doesn't text you back right away, let's say
- 4:05your nervous system remembers what it feels like to be
- 4:08abandoned. And so when all of a sudden a
- 4:11little time goes by and you start to have those feelings of
- 4:15abandonment, then your protective part takes over and
- 4:18says, don't worry, I'll take it from here because that really
- 4:21hurts and I don't want you to feel that way.
- 4:24So now we're going to start getting really angry and we're
- 4:27going to start thinking this person doesn't care about you.
- 4:30And we're going to start projecting these fears onto our
- 4:34partner. And we're going to start
- 4:35thinking, well, they're just too busy or I'm unimportant for them
- 4:39to be able to respond to me. It's thinking about anything
- 4:43that might be able to lessen that hurt and protect that hurt,
- 4:48whether it's true or not, it's going to project that onto the
- 4:52to the partner. And so you might pull away
- 4:56because of that. You might shut down your partner
- 4:58might a few hours later text you back and you see it and you
- 5:03think, oh, now they've got the time.
- 5:05And so you refuse to text them back.
- 5:08And that's because that trauma that hurt often times is
- 5:13actually driving your interactions with your partner.
- 5:17And So what we want to do today is we want to be able to sort of
- 5:20tease this apart and find out if it's the relationship or if it's
- 5:25the trauma. All right, here's some, here's
- 5:30some ideas. But one big question I want to
- 5:34ask you first, because this one question I think in part really
- 5:39defines whether you whether it might be your trauma or whether
- 5:45it might be the relationship. And here's here's the question.
- 5:49And then we're going to get to some of these other signs.
- 5:51But one of the big questions I have is ask yourself, is my
- 5:56partner emotionally available and responsive to my needs?
- 6:01Now that sounds short and simple, but really in reality,
- 6:04it's huge because what that means is that more often than
- 6:08not, your partner shows up for you.
- 6:12Your partner tries to work with you when you get triggered.
- 6:16Your partner tries to give you a different experience than the
- 6:19one that created your trauma. Your partner is emotionally
- 6:23available and responsive to your needs.
- 6:27Now, does that mean they're always perfect at it?
- 6:30Absolutely not. No human being can be.
- 6:33So there are times when they're not available or there are times
- 6:36when they're simply in a different emotional place and
- 6:40they just can't give you what you need in that moment.
- 6:43Maybe they feel like they've been accused or attacked
- 6:47repeatedly, and so they're just shut down in that moment.
- 6:50Well, then that by the time you decide to get vulnerable, maybe
- 6:53they're just in an emotional place where they can't respond
- 6:56to that. So I'm not talking about
- 6:57perfection here. I'm talking about by and large,
- 7:01can you answer that question? Is my partner emotionally
- 7:04available and responsive to my needs?
- 7:06Do I feel safe with my partner? Emotionally safe?
- 7:12And as I've said before, and I'll, I'll say again, I'm not
- 7:15talking about physical safety here.
- 7:17You should never, ever, ever be with somebody that makes you
- 7:22feel physically unsafe. So I'm talking about emotional
- 7:27safety here and especially as it right relates to past trauma.
- 7:31So that's one big question I just want you sort of to chew on
- 7:36because that I think is overarching of all these other
- 7:40signs. But let's let's get into some of
- 7:43these. So how do I know if the the
- 7:47relationship is safe or not? Well, first of all, are there
- 7:51patterns of disrespect, meaning that when you set a boundary,
- 7:55are those boundaries ignored? Are they minimized or dismissed?
- 8:00So that may not be trauma, that actually may be mistreatment.
- 8:05You may be with somebody who who literally doesn't respect your
- 8:09boundaries when you set them, when you say no or that doesn't
- 8:12work for me or I wouldn't, I don't want to do that.
- 8:15I'd rather do this or whatever. And and that can get tricky
- 8:19because it feels like then you're controlling your partner
- 8:22and they might even use that. You're so controlling, but but
- 8:26that's where that's where this line comes in that we're trying
- 8:29to tease apart today. There may be a difference
- 8:32between control versus what you need a boundary you need to set
- 8:36to be safe. So patterns of disrespect with
- 8:39your boundaries. How about a lack of emotional
- 8:42safety? The big question I just asked a
- 8:44minute ago, do you feel like you can share your feelings with
- 8:47your partner? Do they show up and listen and
- 8:50take those feelings seriously? Or they do they tend to shy away
- 8:54from them, deny, ignore. Do they shame you or attack you
- 8:58or mock you for having those feelings?
- 9:02That is very, very toxic in a relationship.
- 9:04If you're showing up trying to be vulnerable with your partner
- 9:09and what you get in return is somebody who tends to mock you,
- 9:13shame you, or attack you for feeling that way, that is not a
- 9:17healthy relationship. How about gaslighting or
- 9:21manipulation? If your partner twists your
- 9:24words or makes you doubt your reality, or tends to blame you
- 9:28for everything, then that's certainly a huge red flag in
- 9:33your relationship and can be very one sided.
- 9:37Right. Relationships require
- 9:39reciprocity. They give a little to you, you
- 9:41give a little to them, and if you're always the one repairing
- 9:46or apologizing or giving in, then there's an imbalance there.
- 9:50If you're with a partner, and I see this with men and I see this
- 9:54with women, and certainly I see this with gay and lesbian
- 9:57couples as well, if you're with a partner that just doesn't ever
- 10:02apologize, that's a problem. You need to have a partner that
- 10:06takes accountability, not for the whole thing, but at least
- 10:10for their role in it. You need to have a partner that
- 10:12can come back to you and they can say I'm sorry I use that
- 10:16tone or I'm sorry I use that word, or, you know, I'm sorry I
- 10:20said that thing. I really don't mean that.
- 10:22I was just angry in the moment and my protection came out and
- 10:26it was just it. It attacks when it does that and
- 10:29I don't even like that part of me.
- 10:31So they need to be able to take accountability.
- 10:33That's often times what an apology is.
- 10:36It's just simply one partner coming to the other and taking
- 10:40accountability for their role in what happened.
- 10:44And so if things are lopsided, if there's not reciprocity or
- 10:48give and take in the relationship, then that can feel
- 10:51very out of balance. And then how about if fear
- 10:56outweighs joy? If you find yourself in a
- 10:59relationship where you're walking on egg shells more than
- 11:04you're relaxed, if you're scared of your partner's reaction more
- 11:09than they feel like a safe place to land for you, then this to me
- 11:15is a big indication. And it doesn't mean that it's
- 11:18all your partner's fault, but it may mean that this particular
- 11:22person just doesn't understand how to work with you, given that
- 11:27you have some past trauma. And so every relationships going
- 11:30to have conflict. But if you spend more time being
- 11:34anxious or on edge or second guessing then you do feeling
- 11:38safe and connected, then something's probably off.
- 11:42You're just not feeling like this person is a safe resource
- 11:48for you in your life. O those are some ways that we
- 11:53can look at the situation and begin to tease apart, is this my
- 11:57trauma or is this the relationship?
- 12:00And as I just said, sometimes it can be your relationship.
- 12:05Sometimes there's just patterns that build up in your
- 12:08relationship that are unhealthy for you.
- 12:12And if that's the case, then it also might be heightening or
- 12:16triggering your trauma more often as well.
- 12:20So where do people get stuck then?
- 12:23Because their trauma responses and the unhealthy dynamics, they
- 12:27can feel so familiar in a relationship, right?
- 12:32If you have a history of abandonment and you're with
- 12:36somebody who continues to abandon you, then, and I've said
- 12:40this on other podcasts, then you're actually drawn to this
- 12:43familiar feeling. So it's really hard to make
- 12:47yourself want to do something different.
- 12:50It's hard to be able to give yourself a different experience
- 12:52or set a boundary and stick to it.
- 12:54Or if you're determined to really leave and truly leave and
- 12:58don't come back instead of yo yoing back and forth.
- 13:01Because in some ways, your body is drawn to this response.
- 13:06It's familiar with it. And so here's a few things that
- 13:11you need to be able to work on in order to determine whether
- 13:16this is your trauma or whether this is the relationship.
- 13:21And the first thing is check in with your body when your partner
- 13:26forgets to call, do you feel a full body panic?
- 13:31Do you feel anxious or on edge? And the example I used earlier
- 13:36with the, the text that you send your partner and usually your
- 13:39partner, you know, 90% of the time text you right back right
- 13:42away. But all of a sudden they're not
- 13:44texting you back. And your thoughts don't run to,
- 13:46oh, he had that big meeting today or oh, he's probably at
- 13:51the gym or oh, she had that, that sit down with her boss.
- 13:55I think it was right at this time.
- 13:57She's probably not available, whatever it might be.
- 14:00Then your thoughts don't run to something that's reasonable.
- 14:05It runs to something that is exaggerated and that throws
- 14:08panic into your body. So if you bring it up and they
- 14:12tend to dismiss it or laugh at you or tell you it's too much.
- 14:16Hey, I got a little nervous today.
- 14:18You know, my, you know, I get kind of triggered sometimes when
- 14:21you didn't text me back right away.
- 14:23Can you, can you just tell me what took you so long?
- 14:25I just need that reassurance. And they'd, Oh my gosh, you're
- 14:28overreacting. Oh, I can't believe we're doing
- 14:30this again. And and they, they're not able
- 14:32to give you that reassurance. They're not going to say, oh,
- 14:35babe, I'm, I'm so sorry. Yeah, I was, I was in that exact
- 14:39meeting. And then I went from that one to
- 14:41another unexpected meeting or, you know, I was out on the job
- 14:44site and I left my phone in the car, totally forgot it or
- 14:48whatever it might be. But they're able to give you
- 14:50that reassurance. Then your body's going to be
- 14:53sort of the first line of defense.
- 14:56Your body's going to be the first place that's going to tell
- 14:59you something's not right, something's not wrong, or
- 15:03something is wrong. Excuse me.
- 15:05The second thing is to look for repair.
- 15:08So in healthy relationships, when when harm happens, when
- 15:12there are disagreements, when there's disruptions, as there
- 15:15are because we're human beings, do both parties take
- 15:19accountability and work towards repair?
- 15:22Now in this podcast, I have talked a ton about the rupture
- 15:25and repair process and how important it is for couples to
- 15:29be able to learn how to repair. So being able to have a partner
- 15:34that can come to you at times and they don't constantly hide
- 15:40or deflect or ignore or sweep under the rug what just
- 15:45happened, but they can actually come back and initiate that
- 15:48repair. That's really important.
- 15:51And then having yourself be able to separate the past from the
- 15:57present. And that's essentially what
- 15:59we're doing here. How can we tease apart something
- 16:02that might be coming up for me in the past versus something
- 16:05that's really happening in the present?
- 16:07Is my reaction about this specific moment, or does it feel
- 16:13bigger, like it connects the dots to old wounds?
- 16:17So is my reaction disproportionate to the
- 16:20situation? Sometimes.
- 16:22That is often a, a cue or signpost that that this is
- 16:28coming from a past hurt, coming from past trauma, because our
- 16:33reaction seems so much bigger. It seems so much more
- 16:37disproportionate to the situation than what's really
- 16:41called for. And, and if your reactions don't
- 16:45match the situation, then oftentimes that's because the
- 16:49response inside of you feels so much bigger as well.
- 16:53And that's because probably it's hitting some past trauma, it's
- 16:57hitting a wound, and that wound is screaming at that moment for
- 17:02any kind of help, reassurance, protection, anything that would
- 17:07allow it to be able to calm down or to get a response that that
- 17:14allows it to to heal a little bit in that moment.
- 17:18Unfortunately, what happens more often than not is when you have
- 17:22a big response that might be disproportionate to the
- 17:25situation that causes your partner to have a big response
- 17:28as well. And so this is where we see
- 17:31cycles that tend to escalate. Conflicts might start very
- 17:35small, but then they tend to escalate as opposed to being
- 17:39able to de escalate, but being able to notice in your body, oh,
- 17:45this feels, this feels big. This feels maybe bigger than
- 17:49what the situation really calls for.
- 17:52And so being able to learn that and being able to modulate or or
- 18:00regulate that kind of response so that you can then be able to
- 18:06practice some self soothing techniques and meet the moment
- 18:10as the moment demands, meet the moment at the level of emotional
- 18:16reaction that it deserves and that it's AT and not come in so
- 18:20hot or conversely, come in so cold, right.
- 18:24If if, if your partner, I don't know, you know, is cooking
- 18:29dinner and they they they cut their finger pretty severely.
- 18:33You don't want to come in really cold and uncaring either.
- 18:37You know, you want to show the appropriate reaction there.
- 18:41Oh, my gosh. OK, we got to get you to a
- 18:43hospital. Wrap it in this.
- 18:44All right, here we go. Let's get in the car.
- 18:46Right. That would be sort of an
- 18:47appropriate. You don't want to.
- 18:48Oh, yeah, that's a pretty deep cut.
- 18:51Wow. How did you do that?
- 18:52Let's walk through that together.
- 18:54And your partner's all in a panic.
- 18:56No, that would be a response that's not exactly appropriate
- 19:01to the situation. So, you know, with our nervous
- 19:03system, we can go fight flight or we can go freeze and fawn.
- 19:07And so we can go above sometimes or we can even go below and a
- 19:12fawn response is actually up in the the fight or flight area.
- 19:16But the freeze and the disassociation that we
- 19:19experienced sometimes that is down below the window of
- 19:22tolerance. So it's where we kind of go numb
- 19:24inside. So those are some ways that you
- 19:28can sort of check in with yourself and say, look, you
- 19:33know, it is, is this coming from me or is this coming from my
- 19:37relationship? Is my relationship?
- 19:40Is my partner gaslighting me? Do I constantly feel like I'm
- 19:43walking on egg shells 'cause I'm scared about their their big
- 19:47response? Do I, do I feel more fearful
- 19:51than I do happy being with this person?
- 19:53Is my body giving me clues and signs that I'm just not feeling
- 19:59safe? Does my partner ever come back
- 20:02and and initiate repair or is it me that always does that?
- 20:06And can I look at these situations and go, OK, this was
- 20:10a response that was larger than the moment dictated because
- 20:16probably it hit a a, a wound inside of me.
- 20:20And when that happens, I tend to respond real big or I tend to to
- 20:25freeze and disassociate. And so I have very little
- 20:30response and nothing my partner can do can get me to respond
- 20:34emotionally in that moment. I just completely shut down no
- 20:37matter what might happen. And so looking for these two
- 20:40kinds of responses. And this is the beauty and the
- 20:43power of of learning about insecure attachments style is
- 20:48that it teaches us how our body tends to respond to
- 20:52disconnection in our relationships.
- 20:55And so being able to notice that is going to be really important
- 21:00for you to be able to determine and tease apart.
- 21:03Is this reaction me or is it the situation?
- 21:07So trauma teaches us to doubt our feelings.
- 21:12It it teaches us to silence our needs, and at times it teaches
- 21:16us to believe that we're just too much.
- 21:19So it's really important that as you begin to work on these
- 21:23things, what you're actually doing is rebuilding trust in
- 21:27yourself. You need to be able to trust
- 21:30your own emotional reactions. You need to be able to trust the
- 21:33signals your body's telling you and not override them.
- 21:37When your body says yeah, you don't feel safe with your
- 21:40partner, you do feel like you're constantly worried about his or
- 21:44her response to bring up anything sensitive.
- 21:47No matter how often you might approach your partner in the
- 21:50best way or try to remain really calm, or let them know that you
- 21:53don't want this to be an argument, but there's something
- 21:55really important you want to talk about, it doesn't matter.
- 21:58There's still this part inside of you that doesn't trust
- 22:03yourself and doesn't trust your partner.
- 22:06And so a couple of things you could do.
- 22:09You can journal some of these experiences.
- 22:11So just take the next week or two and notice what tends to
- 22:15happen in your relationship. Do you tend to feel more anxious
- 22:20or nervous around your partner even when there's not conflict?
- 22:24Or do you tend to notice that you're having these big
- 22:27disproportionate emotional reactions to the situation, even
- 22:31if it's not necessarily called for it?
- 22:33And so does your partner run right through your boundaries?
- 22:37You know, some of those other things we talked about as well,
- 22:41do they tend to be very one sided in in terms of apologizing
- 22:47or taking accountability, things like that?
- 22:50Just notice some of the stuff we've talked to throughout this
- 22:53podcast that can help you determine and tease apart.
- 22:58OK, I can see times where it's definitely my trauma or I see
- 23:03that my reaction to something actually creates more of an
- 23:06argument and it escalates things than if things weren't if I
- 23:12didn't have such a big reaction. Now I can also see times where
- 23:17my partner it does not always make me feel safe.
- 23:21My partner does is not always available and emotionally
- 23:25responsive to my feelings. Even when I'm not having these
- 23:28big reactions now I get it's under it's hard when my partner
- 23:32can't reach me during those times when I'm triggered, I'm in
- 23:35fight or flight. But even when I'm not, my
- 23:38partner's still not able to soften and be that really soft
- 23:43place for me to land and feel safe.
- 23:47So you can just journal these the the next couple of weeks and
- 23:50just notice what kind of responses you get.
- 23:53Take take notice of the interactions you have with your
- 23:57partner and it it might be 5050, it might be 7030, whatever it
- 24:02might be, that's a starting place for you to begin to figure
- 24:06out, is it my trauma or is it the relationship?
- 24:11Thank you so much for listening. As always, I really appreciate
- 24:15it. I really hope this was helpful
- 24:16today. My name is Tom Phillip, and I'm
- 24:19reminding you to stay grounded, clear and connected.
- 24:35Yes.