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- 0:05For seven and eight figure GC's who were shocked when we
- 0:08uncovered what their proposals were missing and what it was
- 0:12costing them. If you want to win more jobs and
- 0:14stop guessing why clients aren't choosing you, this is for you.
- 0:55So this video is part of a series called Mass.
- 1:01This video is a part of a series called Estimating Mastery.
- 1:04And today we're going to be talking all about proposals, how
- 1:07to improve your proposals, how to be thinking about the
- 1:10proposals, how to present the proposals in a way that ends up
- 1:13winning you the job. Make sure you're not leaving
- 1:15money on the table. So the first thing we're going
- 1:17to be talking about is the meeting, the actual proposal
- 1:21meeting. This is one of the most
- 1:22important parts. Yes, we're going to be getting
- 1:24into what, you know, the nitty gritty details of the proposal
- 1:27and what's all on that and what to think about.
- 1:30But this is where a lot of contractors don't put enough
- 1:33attention or thought into is the actual meeting itself.
- 1:38I've talked with contractors who thought that I'll just e-mail it
- 1:43over to my clients. I've already talked with them a
- 1:44whole bunch. We've already talked about the
- 1:46price. I was going to e-mail the
- 1:47estimate, the proposal, whatever it may be.
- 1:50Don't call it an estimate, call it proposal called a budget.
- 1:53And then they'll get back to me. This is a easy way for them to
- 1:57ghost you, for them to just move on to pick another contractor.
- 2:01Whatever it may be, you always want to be setting up a meeting
- 2:04to present your proposal to the client.
- 2:07Ideally this is an in person meeting, especially if it's an
- 2:10important project. If it's anything with a higher
- 2:14value or important to your business, definitely want to be
- 2:17meeting in person. Zoom does work well too.
- 2:21If you are, you know, busy or your clients are very busy, it's
- 2:25a little bit more convenient to do like a video type meeting.
- 2:28But either way, you want to be live in a meeting with them.
- 2:31This is paramount to closing a sale and moving forward with the
- 2:35proposal. You also want to make sure all
- 2:37the stakeholders are there. So if it's a husband and wife or
- 2:41partners or or whoever it may be, anybody who's part of the
- 2:46decision or is part of the project should be there as far
- 2:49as like on the client side of things.
- 2:51So make sure both people, if it's, it's team partnership,
- 2:55whatever, everybody is there that's going to help make that
- 2:58decision. And when you get started, you're
- 3:01going to go through a little bit of, you know, meet and greet and
- 3:04introduction or whatever, right? Build a little report when you
- 3:07actually get to the proposal and start going through the line
- 3:11items and the numbers. I like to show the bottom line
- 3:14first or at least tell them this is where we're tracking.
- 3:17You know, this new home is going to cost you 900,000 and you
- 3:22know, $920,000, right? That's that's kind of our bottom
- 3:25line. Just wanted to get that sticker
- 3:26shock out of the way. Now go through the estimate and
- 3:30show you exactly how the numbers all stack up in, in the scope of
- 3:33work and what's all included with that.
- 3:34How does that sound to you? Right.
- 3:36And this way they are not thinking about what's it going
- 3:40to cost? What's it going to cost if you
- 3:41just start at the top of the estimate, the proposal and
- 3:44you're going line by line and you're saying like this is
- 3:46100,000, this is 50,000 and you know this and this, all that
- 3:50they're doing in the back of their mind is like, OK, OK, you
- 3:52know, what's this going to cost me is or you know, where are we
- 3:55at, right. And if you've done your
- 3:57estimating properly and budgeting properly, then there
- 4:01shouldn't be much of A shock to them or surprise.
- 4:04But it's probably still going to be different from the last time
- 4:06you showed them a budget or whatever that that kind of the
- 4:10scope of size of budget that you mentioned.
- 4:13So I'd like to get that bottom line out of the way first and
- 4:17then make sure you always have some sort of follow up sequence.
- 4:19So when you first present it, ideally they're like, Yep, looks
- 4:23good, let's get started. You don't send me the contract
- 4:26and butter Bing butter boot, right?
- 4:27That's that's the ideal situation.
- 4:29A lot of times they're going to say we need to think about it or
- 4:32we're not sure. We have to talk with, you know,
- 4:34bank or financiers or or whatever, you know, whatever
- 4:37kind of smoke screens they may show throw up or, or legitimate
- 4:39concerns that they may have. Of course you want to work
- 4:41through those, but essentially you're not going to necessarily
- 4:44close the sale on the spot with the proposal.
- 4:47So you always want to be scheduling a follow up meeting,
- 4:50schedule a meeting from a meeting.
- 4:52So if you get to the end, they're like, we need to think
- 4:54about it. You know, great.
- 4:56What kind of things do you feel you have to think about more?
- 4:59You want to dive into it a little bit, but ultimately you
- 5:01don't need to be like a pushy used car salesman where you're
- 5:04like trying to close them on that that call right away.
- 5:07You might say, OK, sounds good. I understand you guys needed a
- 5:10little bit of time to go through this and think about it and talk
- 5:12about it. You know, how is next Tuesday
- 5:15afternoon? Do you think you know you'll
- 5:17have enough time? And then I like to ask the
- 5:20client like how much time do you think you need to think about
- 5:22it? They say no, a day or two, give
- 5:25them a little extra grace period because there may be just trying
- 5:27to be nice, but make sure they have enough time.
- 5:30And then say let's schedule another meeting for Tuesday at
- 5:344:00 PM, will jump on another meeting.
- 5:36Any kind of concerns or questions or you've had time to
- 5:39think about it, We can answer those and see if it's a good fit
- 5:41and we can move forward. So that way you're always
- 5:44setting the stage and you're not kind of leaving it hanging with
- 5:46the client. You're always setting up the
- 5:48next call and everything and we're going to get into the all
- 5:52the proposal stuff like I mentioned.
- 5:53But this part of it is so important because without a good
- 5:57process for the actual meeting and follow up, it doesn't matter
- 6:00how amazing your proposal looks, you're still going to fall flat
- 6:03and probably not be optimized for, you know, sales conversions
- 6:07and things like that. So that is the first point, the
- 6:11actual meeting. Second point is the cover page.
- 6:13So another common thing that I see a lot of GC's are are are
- 6:17missing is they present the proposal or your estimate to the
- 6:21client. And all it's got on there is
- 6:24your line items and maybe a little blurb at the top of like
- 6:27your business with the logo. There's no marketing, there's no
- 6:31reason why they should choose you.
- 6:32There's no indication of like how you run projects or anything
- 6:37like that, right? So this is a great opportunity
- 6:39for you to put a little bit of marketing material, a little bit
- 6:42of, you know, extra finesse and touch on it to, to really
- 6:47portray the proposal in the light and prepare them to be
- 6:50reading through this proposal in the way that, that you want to,
- 6:54to see them. So what should you have on your
- 6:57cover page? I'm saying cover page, but you
- 6:59could even have a couple of different pages.
- 7:01If you've ever seen a design, you know, if you worked with an
- 7:05interior designer, and they're often really good at this
- 7:09because they're, they're, that's what they do.
- 7:10They're good at design and players and all this stuff, but
- 7:13often they'll have like a really graphically pleasing, you know,
- 7:18very branded type of documentation to show selections
- 7:21and how they work and all this stuff.
- 7:22So something like that you can mirror.
- 7:24I'll throw some examples up here so you can maybe see a couple,
- 7:28but essentially you want to do about about your proposal.
- 7:32So what should they know about the proposal?
- 7:34You know, this is a budget that we've taken our time to put
- 7:37these numbers. These are some things that you
- 7:39want to be thinking about when we go through the pricing.
- 7:41This is not an end appeal. If, if we need to make some
- 7:44adjustments, we can, whatever rate you have to kind of put in
- 7:49there what you feel is appropriate, then you should
- 7:52have some stuff on your business.
- 7:54So our approach, right, this is our approach to building.
- 7:58These are the kind of the steps. This is how this proposal fits
- 8:01into, you know, the rest of the building process.
- 8:04This is, you know, what's important about our business.
- 8:07And then of course you want to have your credentials on there.
- 8:10So you should have credentials like if you've won any awards,
- 8:13if you're part of any Chambers of Commerce or business building
- 8:17type groups, if if you have certain certifications or
- 8:21licensing or whatever it may be, even your warranty warranty
- 8:26probably come later. But you want, you want to
- 8:29portray your business, you know, we've got 4.7 Google, you know,
- 8:34star rating, whatever it may be. Why are you qualified?
- 8:39And you want to get that out, you know, right in the
- 8:41beginning. And then if you want to really
- 8:44go for that next level approach, have a few custom elements in
- 8:48there. So you should have like proposal
- 8:50for your clients name and all that kind of stuff.
- 8:52So it's at least somewhat customized to the client.
- 8:55But if you can have like a nice picture of their their house or
- 8:58rendering or something to go along with specific to their
- 9:03project, it just gives it that personalized touch.
- 9:06And it's not like this is just another copy and paste thing,
- 9:09you know, from our company. So that's what you want to be
- 9:11having on the cover page. Alright, so moving on to point
- 9:31#3 here, and this is the numbers, you know, brass tacks,
- 9:35black and white, where the, you know, the buck stops the
- 9:38numbers. I like to have itemized
- 9:40sections. I I don't like just a flat fee
- 9:43at the bottom. It's like here's this, you know,
- 9:46pages of scopes of work and it's going to cost you $700,000.
- 9:50You know, it just, it looks, it looks too intentionally like
- 9:54you're, you're just trying to sort of hide numbers and not be
- 9:58open, even though that may not be your intent, but that's kind
- 10:01of the perception that comes off from from having something like
- 10:05that. So at the very at least have
- 10:07like phases. So you're preconstruction,
- 10:11demolition or site, you know, site work, you know, whatever
- 10:16framing like at least the big phases or sections of the of the
- 10:20project. You should have numbers for
- 10:22that. So you can build a price so that
- 10:25they know that's 700,000. Well, that's you know, 50,000
- 10:28for this, 100,000 for that. Like so they can see that
- 10:30there's some involvement. I like to even have like a step
- 10:33beyond that with more specific itemized pricing.
- 10:36I know some GC's don't like to do this because they think the
- 10:39client's going to start picking apart their estimate and
- 10:41everything. But if you're using a pre
- 10:42construction service agreement, then you should be getting paid
- 10:45for doing that final budgeting and that really detailed like
- 10:48drill down type budgeting. So if they want revisions, if
- 10:51they want changes, essentially they're paying for it.
- 10:54And you know, that shouldn't be an issue and it's a much better
- 10:57working relationship from that. But all things considered, if
- 11:01that's not the case, at least have it in the large chunks or
- 11:04phases categories of the of the estimate chronological as well.
- 11:11You could do it by sections or parts of the project.
- 11:15But typically speaking, I like to see a layout of chronological
- 11:19of like site setup, site work, pre construction before that
- 11:25demo framing, rough and trades finishing, you know, like that.
- 11:30It's just a nicer flow to the numbers to go in like a
- 11:33chronological order of the beginning of the project, all
- 11:36the items, you know, completion of the project, what have you,
- 11:39and then maybe have like a bit of a miss or you know, extra
- 11:43things at the end or whatever. That's the way I like to do it.
- 11:46I know it's nice sometimes if you have like break it out by
- 11:49like floors or rooms or phases of a project, but that's kind of
- 11:54chronological as well. But this is the nicest way that
- 11:56I've found to do it. And of course, details matter.
- 12:01The more detail you can put on your, your scope of work, your
- 12:05proposal, the better. The more the client is going to
- 12:08believe that you've done your due diligence, you've done your
- 12:10homework and the trust is higher.
- 12:13Even if for you it doesn't seem like I don't need to, like,
- 12:17specify every little detail or go over all of this stuff, it's
- 12:20going to take a lot of time and work.
- 12:22Yeah, you have to find that medium.
- 12:24But ultimately, if someone's presenting a proposal and it
- 12:27says framing, you know, whatever 30 grand as opposed to yours, it
- 12:33says, you know, framing materials, sheeting, lumber,
- 12:38trust package, you know, whatever, like you've got it
- 12:42more detail and then 30 grand. It's just going to seem like
- 12:46mores included and that you've done more than your number is
- 12:50more real because it shows everything that's included
- 12:53there. So you know, it's making sense.
- 12:56Does that make sense? If you have any questions at
- 12:58all, truck or comment below. A lot of you know, reading your
- 13:01comments grief me, don't agree with me, still love it.
- 13:04Drop your comments, I will respond.
- 13:06All right. So that takes care of the
- 13:08numbers section. Now moving on to #4 so 4 is
- 13:12contract ready. When you go into this proposal
- 13:16meeting and you present a proposal, it you should be ready
- 13:20to sign a contract on the spot or that day.
- 13:23And this means having templated contracts and very easily plug
- 13:28and play, ideally doing this through some sort of cream
- 13:30software so that it's all kind of set up and ready to go.
- 13:34You can collect digital signature signatures, you'll
- 13:37attach plans, schedules, pictures and selections.
- 13:41So anything pertaining to that project should be attached as
- 13:45addendum or some other additional document that's
- 13:48mentioned in the contract, attached to the to the actual
- 13:52contract. So when they sign, it's like
- 13:53these are the plans. This is the schedule, this is,
- 13:56you know, whatever pictures and selections that you've you've
- 14:01you've selected and approved so that there's as little Gray area
- 14:05as possible. And if you ever need to go back,
- 14:07it's like, well, these were the plans when we sign, we've
- 14:11changed the plan. So now you know, this change
- 14:13order is relevant or, or whatever, right?
- 14:14So make sure that your contract is ready when you go into that
- 14:19proposal meeting or you can at least get their verbal
- 14:23commitment and easily get them a contract that day or within, you
- 14:28know, a couple an hour or two, whatever it may be.
- 14:32Clients love speed. Everybody loves speed and
- 14:34convenience nowadays. You want to make it easy,
- 14:36simple. And if they've made that
- 14:38agreement and are ready to move forward, they should not be
- 14:40waiting for you at any point. It should be let's go, let's get
- 14:44this done. Let's move forward with whatever
- 14:46it may be All right, quick one there number 5 all right, 5 is
- 14:51the things to not forget. So don't forget this on your
- 14:54proposals or in your contracts because it can come to bite you
- 14:58in the ass and really just, you know, burn a lot of your money
- 15:03potentially or goodwill with clients.
- 15:05So the first thing is you need your inclusion.
- 15:07So what does this include? What kind of, you know, this
- 15:11include a warranty? Does this thing you know, are
- 15:14all materials and services included?
- 15:18What's all included in this? And then exclusions are a big
- 15:21one as well. What's not what's not included
- 15:24is it no permits excluded is obviously like rot or fire
- 15:30damage or unexpected circumstances.
- 15:33Want to have your terms and conditions in there of what are
- 15:37the terms when you know if they accept this in 60 days, is it
- 15:40still valid? You know, you want to have a
- 15:43window for accepting of, of the proposal terms of it warranty
- 15:48you're mentioning what's your warranty?
- 15:49Are they getting, you know, one year on this, three-year on
- 15:51that, five year on on foundation or 10 year or whatever may be.
- 15:56And then list the responsibilities of the builder
- 15:59and of the client. So you know, communication, fast
- 16:02decisions, whatever it may be, you want to have a list of
- 16:06responsibilities and things like that.
- 16:09If you need help with this, reach out to us.
- 16:12We've got lots of documentation that helps contractors with this
- 16:15whole thing gets the other proposal that we do work with
- 16:18clients building out these processes and things.
- 16:21There are links in the description below, so make sure
- 16:23you're checking on that. We've got an estimating template
- 16:26stack which has the templates for estimates for walk through
- 16:31and walkthroughs as well as SOP's and things like that.
- 16:34So check out the links in the description.
- 16:35We've got a bunch of great resources there.
- 16:37All right, number 6. There we go.
- 16:42Number six, the closing page. So this is like the kind of the
- 16:47nice ending to the whole proposal.
- 16:49As you can see, this proposal is going to be somewhat of a
- 16:51document. It's not just like a couple of
- 16:53pages with a bunch of squiggly lines of estimating and numbers
- 16:57and stuff like that. This is a proposal that that
- 17:00should be proposing. I think if you're proposing for
- 17:03marriage, you're not going to dress up in, you know,
- 17:07sweatpants and and an old cut off tank top shirt or whatever,
- 17:11right? So put your best foot forward,
- 17:14dress your proposal up, make sure that you're communicating
- 17:17well through the proposal, putting on a really
- 17:18professional, really professional phase two proposal
- 17:24because you're going through all that work with estimating,
- 17:27working with the client, getting to this point.
- 17:30And then if your proposal falls flat, you're just, you're
- 17:32shooting yourself in the foot. So make sure it looks good.
- 17:35Closing page. So I'm closing page.
- 17:37You want to have something that asks them.
- 17:39If you have questions, please express them to us.
- 17:42We'd love to, to let you know to, to answer any of your
- 17:45questions. So ask for feedback, ask for
- 17:47questions. Make sure it's very clear that
- 17:49you, this isn't like an open and shut case.
- 17:51This is a discussion and you're more than happy to fill in any
- 17:55gaps or, or explain stuff. If something wasn't clear, have
- 17:59a couple of testimonials in the in the closing page.
- 18:04So it's like, Hey, these are all clients who have been in your
- 18:07same shoes. We presented a proposal, they
- 18:10move forward and this is the great things that they have to
- 18:13say about us, right? So it just, it builds that
- 18:15social trust, that proof. It kind of puts them in that
- 18:18group of like, do you want to be like our other clients who had
- 18:21an amazing experience and move forward and work with us?
- 18:24And then a few like next steps. You don't have to go like way
- 18:28into the future, but next steps is like once if you have any
- 18:32questions, please let us know If you're ready to move forward, We
- 18:36will send you a construction contract agreement that you can
- 18:40sign. And then we'll go through the
- 18:42onboarding process and and, you know, schedule your project and
- 18:45let you know when we can get started kind of thing or
- 18:47whatever. A few next steps so that you're
- 18:50always kind of pregaming them for this is a natural, you know,
- 18:53this isn't a stopping like Start Stop gate.
- 18:55This is just a natural kind of next step to get to the next
- 18:59steps making sense. So as mentioned, get the free
- 19:03templates in the description below.
- 19:05I will see you on the next video and as always, thanks for
- 19:08watching.