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BFB #518: How Broncos Can Overcome LG Ben Powers' Injury · Mile High Huddle Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: with Nick Kendall and Scott Kennedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, and welcome in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is 74739 Mountain Time that I can now look at just at my clock without having to do the math.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's time for an episode of Broncos for breakfast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am Nick Kendall joined by Eric Trickle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eric, did I say your name on your wife's?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always said sometimes I think I say Trickle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's the inflection that I get wrong, but isn't that it's like Trickle down economics?
0:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Am I wrong?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, Monday, you just happened to put like more of an e sound and add sound on the on the trickle is what it did and when she heard it, Monday, when I put it on in the car and not to listen back to it, it was to check the comments for it because Chad sounds me about that, but she caught the, it caught the, you say in my name or you go, and she was put that back and I did and she's like, he's saying trickle like trickle.
1:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, huh, he did say it this time.
1:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I've never caught it before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if it's been a long standing thing or it feels just that one time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we just both got a little kick out of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think I get it right most of the time, but names are not always my strong suit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to keep my head here otherwise it's blinding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like every time I make a good opinion, I'm going to on that, but what we're going to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I don't do the light over that.
1:27
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
1:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody to make a gift out of that one.
1:30
[SPEAKER_00]: We got David Duncan in the house saying morning, everyone, you can't replace Ben Powers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's next man up.
1:36
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Jake.
1:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also coming in here soon.
1:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Good morning.
1:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching Grosie's scripted video and about choked when the jets popped up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excited for no more windless teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, hope it isn't an omen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to give a little bit more information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, hopefully, the Broncos don't flub a game versus the jets coming up here because it's right now, Eric, I was just looking at a FTN fantasy.
2:02
[SPEAKER_00]: What are their webs that used to be called before that?
2:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like an acronym.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't think of it this morning.
2:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't think of it and I forgot about it.
2:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It's football outsiders, it just came to me.
2:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But they have their playoff odds and first pick odds right now and for their number one overall pick now granted, it's still early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the team with the chance for the teams with the highest chance for a top three pick are the Titans at number one, the Jets at number two and the Giants at number three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Broncos arguably, I think have their easiest stretch of games coming up here in these next two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: feeding the the jets and then the giants, but one at a time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and this was a start of a stretch of easier games for the Broncos, because you know, you follow that up with the jets giants, as you said, then you have the cowboys, then you have the Texans and the raiders, none of these teams are doing so well.
3:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they have the confidence from the wind over the Eagles, but you'd be easy to
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you got to stay focused, take it one game at a time as the, you know, Sean Peyton seems to have the broadcast kind of on that path of stay focused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't look ahead and he made a point about that.
3:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it was after in his post game conferences against the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody brought up a thing of keeping my focus on the Eagles with the Jess game and London coming up He's like we just didn't talk about the London game that was all behind that was all set off to decide and our focus was strictly on the Eagles game We can only take it one game at a time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously not direct quotes of him.
3:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember exactly what he said That was the just of what he was getting at
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the right mentality have, and now the focus is on the Eagles, they're already in London.
3:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They're low to London from Philadelphia to help ease the travel a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think the jets that I think the jets are expected to travel today are tomorrow to London.
4:01
[SPEAKER_02]: If I saw right, so that could be a slight advantage for the Broncos.
4:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, jets are the only windless team still and Dylan telling me in the chat that Garcia does the football skits on YouTube for each team.
4:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully the jets will continue to be windless, they're operationally eric, especially on a defense.
4:18
[SPEAKER_00]: They just look so terrible, I'm honestly talking about it last night with Carl.
4:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm shocked about how bad they look under Aaron Glenn because last season with how Detroit was a mass unit on defense, they were so much better.
4:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The sum of their parts is so much better than the individual pieces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This year, I don't know if there's a defense out there just on the top of my head that has more like talent on paper that's playing as poorly like they're offense.
4:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I think is feisty like a lot of the stuff that they're doing with the run game using fields on granted fields still fumbles the ball a lot so hopefully the Broncos can jump on some turnovers because that's something that they've been just not good enough at this season if they want to go from being a very good defense to a great defense.
5:03
[SPEAKER_00]: compared to, I think the Jacksonville Jaguars have like 14, but yeah, the Broncos should win this game but you know, anything can happen and I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: do you think it's worse or better that they are playing in London than compared to like at New York Jets?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like a different fact like obviously how bad the Jets are playing and how New York fans are, they might turn on them pretty quickly or kind of be an empty stadium.
5:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Adding I think I'm going to London just adds a little bit more variables and randomness to the outcome of this one.
5:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would rather have this game be in New York and it's exactly what you're getting on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jets fans, I mean, Philadelphia gets a lot of focus for how much their fans can be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How spicy they can be after all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did there was no balls at Santa Claus, but the jets are not that far off from being down there with them with how quickly they can turn on the team.
6:00
[SPEAKER_02]: This was one during I believe it was a Chad Pennington era.
6:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They were sort of boing the offense even though the offense had put up by 28 points on the board just because they didn't go forward on a fort down So they are very spicy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're very demanding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it can kind of turn home field advantage and to Advantage for the away team when they start boing their own offense and not quieting down for the offense and in London
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to get that, I mean, you're probably still get a little bit of not quieting down for the offense, just because you're going to have, you know, it's going to be more split as the people who get to see it.
6:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get to see a lot of football all that often, and so they're going to be cheering for bullsides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's different between just having the cheers on for bullsides instead of being actively booed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it does add a little bit more to variables a little bit more randomness to it and not being able to try to count on turning the fan base against the other team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I will say.
7:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Now granted again, then I had some variables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how the field quality is going to be at Totenham Stadium, but the stadium in East Rutherford, I think I'm saying it right is horrible.
7:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I guess I'm kind of glad that they're not playing there because we don't need any.
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[SPEAKER_00]: more injuries coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk more about injuries.
7:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Todd says good morning and he also has how long powers is out yet by step surgery.
7:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was left or right off the top of my head Eric, but he can be out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They hope to have him back in December, but it's one of those things where you say that and I mean, I do expect him back, but it could be, you know, playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be him out for the season, all the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will see if eight weeks is a long time to be out.
7:43
[SPEAKER_00]: How's he going to be conditioning wise when he comes back luckily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'm not a PT physical therapist, the surgeon or anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume with the biceps, you can still work some cardio in and keep your conditioning in your legs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, especially, you know, like a ramp up, but again, it's a bummer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it could hope him to have him back in December.
8:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's one of those things that powers has been probably the most hated offensive lineman on the brogles for the last two or three years.
8:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though he's been he's been really good this year.
8:21
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been among the best polling guards in the NFL so far this year.
8:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And last year he was good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just wasn't as good as you, you know, for as much as Denver was paying him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this year he seemed to be taking that next step.
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[SPEAKER_02]: still issues, not perfect.
8:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not very rarely do you get perfection from an office of alignment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If at all, but he was having a really good season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely a loss with how much Denver was getting the run game going, basing it off of pulling him and using him as that pulling guard and how effective that was becoming.
8:53
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a loss, even with, you know, Matt
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though he's done well in the preseason play in there, it's still a loss because you haven't it's the preseason, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't seen Matt Pert playing guard in the NFL against starters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been backups in the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a bit of a concern there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, there's some confidence or there's a lot of confidence I should say in Pert from within the Broncos organization for the work that he's put in and they really do like him being that left side backup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's great to hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But see me better to hear.
9:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Michael around Kio $50 super chat.
9:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, good morning, and I can hear it from Broncos for breakfast.
9:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Go Bob Broncos.
9:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you.
9:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're doing well as I try to sit up and extend my neck to block out the sun as it raises behind me here and blinds everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see you, Michael.
9:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you're doing well.
9:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I have Todd points out on the DevTart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It shows Palcho both the back of it, the left guard and right guard spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not always the case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw in preseason Palcho, the last two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Corner PFF snap tracker did not play any reps on the left side.
10:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Left tackle or left guard.
10:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And you had parrot take over the backup left guard spot once Nick Garjulo tore his Achilles I think it was Achilles not ACL I always get those mixed up I know they're very different, but they both start with A so I just like in their common bad injuries, blade injuries so I think it was Achilles I think if Garjulo was
10:24
[SPEAKER_00]: healthy.
10:24
[SPEAKER_00]: We would be seeing him inserted into the lineup based on what we heard from training camp and how he played in that first preseason game.
10:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately injuries have been more noticeable for the Broncos this season.
10:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'll knock on wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like, you know, everybody's dropping my flies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've seen some Broncos teams in the past or every single chargers team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're not, I would be pretty shocked if they finish in the top one or two
10:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and on that note, too, with Matt Pearck versus Alex Pacheski.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pacheski's only played 10 total snaps on the left side of the line, going back to 2018.
11:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Either the more college, two of them were this year, where he played left tackle, where Denver was doing a different formation where they put McLenchee in balls as an inline tight end on the right side of the line.
11:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the only time he's played the left side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Sean, but you talked about this, some point during the preseason and training camp, I can remember exactly when.
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[SPEAKER_02]: both this year and he talked about it during last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he made a comment about how sometimes offensive linemen are just comfortable on one side and set a flipping them and that seemed to be, if I remember right, who specifically asked the question about Paul Chesky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think Paul Chesky is just more comfortable on the right side of the line and Sean Payton, if you go back even to win the news with the New Orleans Saints,
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[SPEAKER_02]: he's always preferred instead of having a backup swing tackle a backup swing guard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's always preferred to have that backup right side blocker and that backup left side blocker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Poucheski's that backup right side blocker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pirit is that backup left side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I expect that to be the case going forward and also adding to that Poucheski is that six offensive linemen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when you insert him into a starting position, you're now also replacing that six blocker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now Pirit has done that a little bit last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he did that when Mike McLean she went down and Paul Cheski was starting at right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when Pierre was using that six blocker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So haven't seen confirmation yet one way or another.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a bunch of Bronco beat writers have been talking about Pierre being it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Parker Gabriel was one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Benjamin all bright.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a couple of people I've been talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pierre being that starting left guard and it just makes more sense based off of what we've seen with the Broncos and how they've used Paul Cheski ever since he's even come to Denver.
12:46
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get on to your weather soon, come in and says, what about this thought?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four Cypht Center in Wattenberg at guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Typically, I think the general consensus among League people is that you don't want to be shuffling people too much because then you are having multiple new starters on the line and for how important nonverbal communication and cohesion is for past protection and the zone block schemes, specifically outside zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the reps and experience these guys have between each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now if Wattenburg was this earth mover and we had like four sides of those our best guy for sure, then I think maybe you have that conversation, but I don't think that's the case also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like that factor on top of moving Wattenburg who's given his style of play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can hold down at guard, but you're going to take a huge hit in the run game if you do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And foresight is struggled as well in past protections.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just general rule of thumb are consensus that you're not moving multiple guys.
13:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like the thought, I just, that's, that's where the league tends to go across the offensive one.
13:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's just kind of, that's kind of what I was getting at too with, you know, Paltzewski being insert as that starting left guard.
14:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And now you have a new
14:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And Todd comes in real quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to grab this as a prepacks of powers and who would back up bulls and spread as a backup for bulls.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a pal Chesky is starting a guard who's backing up McGlunchy, Frank Crum.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Frank Crum is being cross-trained to flip sides.
14:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So Frank Crum is your technically swing tackle because he's being taught to play bullsides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's who would be, or it'd be an instance of if bulls goes down, then parts being moved over and then you're inserting pal Chesky or for a siph or someone else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you don't want to go into the game, shuffle in too much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're forced to in the game, then obviously you have to answer it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But how Chesky being inserted at left guard to start the game is just more shuffle with the offensive line than necessary.
14:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a bummer Nick Gargulo.
14:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Ender it, you're always looking for those young guys to rotate in and replace veterans.
14:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was hoping, you know, Gargulo getting some experience the season, maybe an option net center.
14:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I know they've been more regard to he played.
15:01
[SPEAKER_00]: He went from Gale to South Carolina, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was center there as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just purely guard if I'm not mistaken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was hoping for him this season, you know, taking a step, especially because he seems to be in that Bonax click, him and Crum following Bonax around in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's going to be part, we'll see how he does.
15:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's built like a tackle, and he's got some fluidity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the real area where I'm concerned is the ability to anchor against power rushers, as well as to displace guys at the point of attack.
15:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And a granite power isn't always the best at that despite his size.
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't have like the highlights, run blocking, if you will, but you've been a good move player this season.
15:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the combo blocks, there was one with the,
15:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was an outside zone to the right where he hit Jalen Carter and then bulls replaced him and you had powers move up to the next level and it was like a 15-yard run.
15:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Might have been J.K.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dobbins biggest run on the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So some of that stuff, it's going to be a hit.
16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the run game and the balance is a key for the Broncos offense, but my biggest concern is going to be going to be the pass protection overall for the Broncos,
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[SPEAKER_00]: how Bonyx has played under pressure.
16:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We won't sugarcoat it, he has been statistically
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the bottom five quarterbacks under pressure, since he started the last year now, that doesn't mean he's gonna always be that way.
16:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Play under pressure tends to be more volatile than the kept clean stats that's more predictable and he's much better there.
16:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But something to keep an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need bone extra step up and play better under pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David Young can come in and hear us as no sight scenes, strictly business, Sean said.
16:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping there have been some good times, some ice breakers team builders as well
16:50
[SPEAKER_00]: All that good will the Broncos built up for being the Eagles gone if you lose this game against the Jets.
16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to take care of business, good teams, beat other good teams.
17:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Great teams stack wins.
17:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So Eric, what do you think is more impressive?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if the Broncos go in into beaten Philly, awesome, that's great.
17:12
[SPEAKER_00]: A one game sample size.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think more indicative of a good team is if they rat a loft the next four in a row and win and that consistency week week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though they're much lesser opponents,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's harder to win four in a row in the league than it is to go in and have a one off game against the even though they're the bringing champions there for no and everything.
17:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's harder to win four in a row with what's coming up than it is to just go in and win one game.
17:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with that.
17:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that obviously there's variables in play, it quality of opponents matter in that too.
17:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Issues as you just don't get those streaks of games, those stretches of games that are for lack of better way to put it easier games, right?
17:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the bottom teams in the NFL cause,
18:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You have the, I mean, again, you have the jets and the giants and then you have the Cowboys after that and the Cowboys defense is terrible.
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Now they have an offense that could potentially hang it and keep them in the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but they haven't that cowboys often says a play to game like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So stacking up wins, especially four of them is tough for any team, and especially when you add in a trip to London in there where you're having to fly into the fight along and then fly back for a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's tough, and Denver is they got a
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[SPEAKER_02]: Part of the reason why it's tough as well as the mentality can change when you start second those wins together, you can start having this over confidence and that's what often can lead to what we what's referred to as trap games and up going own for confident into a game against a weaker opponent and you drop that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, when it when it for games is really tough, that tougher than it is winning a one off against a good opponent, and it's getting quite able to do matter when in those four games in a row, but even then it still can be really tough.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we got Diego Lanzo coming in here 999 since good morning fellas, how are you enjoying the change of scenery neck?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A beautiful neighborhood that feels very,
19:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels almost a little too gentrified.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seattle had a little bit more edge to it where I'm at right now, but it's nice, very family friendly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to be careful driving the car because there's kids on bikes everywhere, which is great, it'll be great for the kid coming up here.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll be happy once I get on the mountains.
19:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been out in the mountains out here yet.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a, you know how I am.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: God, I just sign you to you.
19:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Get out there on a peak and move my body and get away from people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the challenge of it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I need to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the house is still in disarray.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And my wife I love her and she's you know, she's doing a lot of the unpacking work, but she also wants to be in control of how things are being unpacked and where they go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of hand-tied on that a little bit.
20:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, just a more football watching for me, I guess.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you, Diego coming in here.
20:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to bring up point here for a young Tyrone, appreciate you, because my point about Bonix statistically, not doing well under pressure, says Bonix played good under pressure coming back to be the Eagles in the fourth quarter.
20:20
[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?
20:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You are mixing up terminology here.
20:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So, like, you're talking about pressure of like, game situation, like,
20:30
[SPEAKER_00]: needing a fourth a drive to win the football game like that's like pressure in like a game scenario.
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about like pressure is in like past Russia's in his face being displaced.
20:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what a pressure is from my defense on offensive line perspective.
20:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And Bonax last season I believe he was the lowest EPA per play dropback passer under pressure among qualifying quarterbacks.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was he was 40th out of 40 and this season
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like 25th or something and he's the second lowest graded for PFF under pressure.
21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So the one benefit is that one benefit had been is that he's also been far and away the least pressured quarterback in football on some of that's attributed to Bonyx some of that's the offensive line some of that's the scheme it's that's how the NFL works right it's that nothing happens in isolation, but just something to keep an eye on.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: If the offensive line, you know, has another injury, there's just no, there's no doubt it's going to be under a bit more pressure down to down unless you are calling in such of the nilla training wheels handicapped offense that you're not even putting him in a situation to take that, which might be even worse, then you know, let him try to figure out some of the under pressure stuff, but it's something to keep an eye on.
21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the stats of the stats, they don't tell the whole story, obviously, but the sample is broad enough that it's at least a trend.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and on that is obviously you can get pressure without blitzing, and but when blitzing, this is one way, one area to take a positive for Bonix when it comes to being under pressure is if he split it between zone blitzes and man blitzes, he's been one of the better quarterbacks against man blitzes, especially this year, which is something that the New York jets get
22:17
[SPEAKER_02]: at the league highest in the NFL or the fifth highest in the NFL 22% of the time they're throwing man blitzes at their opponent.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And Bo Nix so far this season, he's had eight and eight of 13 against man blitzes, 79 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, 53.8% success rate, which is the ninth highest in the NFL.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: he hasn't been seeing it a whole lot so far this season.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, um, I don't have the set right up in front of me at the moment.
22:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on the different thing, uh, a different page that I had open, but I believe it's been like the fifth lowest of man blitzes that have been thrown at the Broncos.
22:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's definitely a change up for when you're going against a team that's been one of the highest in the with the New York Jets.
23:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'd be curious, even though pressure is an
23:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He, at least, is showing the signs when he's seeing man blitzes, a finding the open guy quickly and getting the ball out and having success that way.
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So that is a positive takeaway from it's something that you can, that Sean Peyton and Davis Webb and Boenix can use to build upon to help him get a little bit better under pressure, a finding that open guy, and it can translate over to Zung Thubber just well.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope so again, just it's a trend and it doesn't mean bone X is a bad quarterback, but it's an area that now the offensive line is dealing with an injury long term and you're I think it's pretty undoubtedly you're going to be worse on there.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: people around them have to be better.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And that includes bonus specifically under pressure.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you need Wattenberg to play better.
23:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You need your tight ends to block better.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You need a little bit better from Harvey between the tackles, just stuff like that.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everyone, guys go down.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Other guys have to step up.
24:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's always going to be more so on the quarterback in the head coach, more credit than they deserve, more blame than they deserve.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're the most important variables.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: got Quentin, great to see a Quentin.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I also had a question coming in here about the Broncos guys coming off of injury reports.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you heard anything there?
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Eric, as far as yeah, injured reserve with a brooch and Sanders.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if there's anybody else who's eligible.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Green, green, no, no, no.
24:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Green, no, what's the other one, the comment that was asked about.
24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but Green Law is not eligible.
24:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not eligible until after the jet scheme because you have to miss at least four games.
24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe the conversation has been there eyeballing.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe the Cowboys game to get Green Law back.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, might have been the Texan's game the week after.
24:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But Drew Sanders hasn't had his practice went to open, so he's most likely not coming off into reserve for another few weeks at least.
24:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Not come roach.
24:58
[SPEAKER_02]: They opened his practice window last week.
25:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So they have three weeks before they have to activate him.
25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And just from the sounds of it, it doesn't sound like they're going to be activating him just yet.
25:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, that can change.
25:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They still have
25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They have to make room for him to activate it.
25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: They're at the 53 man right now, because they haven't put powers on injury reserve yet.
25:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's expected, so that does open the spot.
25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That could be when they make that decision, we're gonna activate Roach and put powers on injury reserve.
25:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so it's still a possibility for a roach to play this week.
25:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't sound super likely, just based off for some of the comments that have been made, but it's still a possibility for a roach to be back this week.
25:37
[SPEAKER_02]: The other two that were mentioned in the comment, obviously greener, ineligible Sanders highly unlikely.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't open a practice window and then immediately bring them back within two or three days before a early early early morning game.
25:51
[SPEAKER_02]: in London and I say that because it's 730 in the morning for me when this game starts and I am not happy.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: i love the early games uh... it's always but i'm a morning person uh... anything peaceful coffee i miss the uh... western time zone nine a.m.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: college football kickoffs uh... those are always just the best little harder with the kid though i will say when i was you know just needy on with it that's uh... calm nice i got coach Chris coming in twenty dollars i just want to say good morning good morning you coach thank you for keeping the lights on it's a party in the show
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So Sunday is coming up quick.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to run the table in the next four games to ensure a chance to play off.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Love the show.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: No Broncos for breakfast hat.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Broncos for breakfast hat is still packed up somewhere and unloading the MHH box.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm going to have the shelf with the paraphernalian.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to get a green screen.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Eric is just because I think we're going to be set up in the the guest room eventually so not not a rush to unload that one just yet so no Bronx for breakfast have we do need to get Eric one but appreciate you we need to get coach Chris one honestly but appreciate you.
26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to get into the Jets as well.
26:57
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26:59
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27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So that will be a lot of fun and actually Eric.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't talked yet.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be here Wednesday because I will be flying back to Seattle for my last in person day at my job back there.
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And then driving the Prius across country back to Denver.
27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: the Saturday night shenanigans and the meeting read on the Sunday versus the giants.
27:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So can you say to Kila, baby?
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate everyone though.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to get into one thing though about the debts.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Jets are obviously 0 and 5.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been terrible.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot believe how bad the defense has been despite the first round picks, the investments that they have.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And guys that we've seen like proof of concept of being pretty good, they've just been god awful.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they got to be really ticked off to because Drake may looks like potentially a superstar quarterback after years of the Patriots.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you got the bills with Josh Allen.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I have sorry, Jets fans, but I digress.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: The Jets do have one super power on this team where they are the best in the NFL, Eric, and that is explosive runs.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They are number one and explosive run rate in the entire NFL.
28:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Carl was watching some Jets and he was not impressed with the offensive line.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They are getting some displacement at the point of attack and while Justin Fields puts the ball on the ground and still has some issues as a drop-back passer, the combination of him and Breeze Hall
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: up front in the run game is working.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, if they had the defense that I thought they could have, you know, what Salah had, you know, perennial top 12, this would be a feisty team.
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think with how they are running in the football, but defense has been abysmal, one of the bottom five in the league.
28:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They still struggle in the past game.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Garrett Wolves, they spam Garrett Wilson and they run the ball.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wish we were getting Roach back this week, just to have a little bit more
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: The only way I see the Broncos losing this game outside injuries or a turnover polusa, which sometimes can happen, is that they let the jets pop a few big runs, flip the field, score some 60-year touchdown runs, which this jet's team is capable of doing.
29:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's one of those things.
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: With the running game, with how explosive they've been, they've also been one of the more consistent teams.
29:34
[SPEAKER_02]: right around 10th in success rate, which speaks to the consistency they have.
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the few redeeming qualities that this team has.
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Defense is terrible and if the defense was playing a little bit better, they actually have a realistic shot of being three and two just like the Broncos.
29:50
[SPEAKER_02]: They're oh and three in one score games and they have their averaging, I believe like 22.4 points per game.
29:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: doing enough to put points on the board.
30:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The defense isn't able to close it out, but the run game, this is one of those with the issues that Justin Field has, but how big of a threat he is as a runner, if I'm going to show us if I'm looking to sell out against the run.
30:11
[SPEAKER_02]: If they beat you, make them beat you through the air, because if you force them to beat you through the air,
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then it's things that you lost, but you took away the strength of their offensive force and do something that they've been not really good at this year, and plus Garrett Wilson, even though they've been spamming him, Patrick's a tan has shut him down every single game that numbers played against them when they've when they've matched up against other Garrett Wilson, I think had success in one game, but most of it came against not Patrick's a tan.
30:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and one thing that makes their them such a threat with their explosive runs is their use of motion, because they're just in fields being a threat with the runner.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: They're using motion to as a more so to help them find running lanes and determine what they're running, where they're going to be running the ball a little bit more.
30:59
[SPEAKER_02]: more so than using it to help determine coverage in the passing game.
31:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that is something that you don't see a lot of teams do nowadays.
31:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely older school.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It is something that Aaron Glenn picked up from his time with the Lions because there are teams that they've done that a lot using motions to help them dictate running lanes.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's just kind of carried over.
31:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Breeze Hall has been the best running back on running place when the offense uses motion.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So you've got to do, you've got to figure that out and honestly without possibly getting Malcolm Roach back with some of the issues that they have at the linebacker position, I'm continuing to keep who found good near the line.
31:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe he played in the box the majority of the game against the equals.
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm continuing to do that and really selling out again to stop the run because that is what this jet's offense is up to this point.
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No doubt.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that isn't interesting about this Jets offense and rush games specifically is that they are only ranked 11th in EPA per Rush when you exclude turnovers, despite being fourth in success rate, running the number one explosive pass rate now granted the margin or explosive run rate, but the margins for explosive run rate, the Jets at 5.6% of their runs going from explosive runs, you have the, let's just say, all the way down to 2%.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: middle of the pack.
32:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So like they're running explosive a lot, but like it's not like, you know, explosive, run explosive run, explosive run, uh, because, you know, it's the white, it's not that wide of a range, uh, between the top and the middle.
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But really, um, the big thing with their runs, and I think this is quarterback predicate, and this is, as a chance to be a not to get right necessarily, but like a buck, the trend game for the Broncos.
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Jets are put the ball on the turf a lot.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That's something that Justin feels struggles with both in the pocket as a passer holding
32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: as well as a russia.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And for the Broncos, I think that's the, that's Eldorado for this team right now on the defensive side of the ball.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting after the quarterback coverage.
33:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we can make wine backers and man cover, just especially there's not many who can do the job against, you know, Berkeley or Jonathan Taylor and the open field with the design to get them open as well.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But even then not good.
33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously Riley Moss.
33:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a sub.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: carrying the pitch I say in my Iowa jacket.
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not just carrying the pitchforks for Riley Mosses.
33:19
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of fans are, but man, he needs to start making some plays on the football.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Coming down with some turnovers.
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That would absolve a lot, but this jet's game has a chance to be a get right one for the Broncos.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not just the defense getting after it.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's one that given how bad the jet's defense has been.
33:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Broncos can jump out early.
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, let's say it's
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: 14 to zero three drives into the game and then you are able just to pin your ears back you limit the runs like the runs then are not as potent like you're willing to live with it a little bit as much pin the ears back and hunt and I'm hoping that this team.
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: As good as they've been getting at the passer has there even they've been like one strip sec.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: This season, I think a Daniel Jones recovered it.
33:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe I think that's the only one I can think of.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully we start to see them punch the ball that a little more and turn around that turn around the turnover luck.
34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Take away luck.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me because that's something that's keeping this defense from being very good to great.
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a radic nature of the offense right now.
34:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it has to be takeaways in the defense.
34:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and cutting back on penalties on the defense as well.
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that's what it goes the night.
34:33
[SPEAKER_02]: which the Broncos are have one more penalty against them than the Jets through this year, or one less, I might that, they're pretty close together.
34:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So that might bounce up, but takeaways, that's something that's got to happen as you touch on them with Riley Moss.
34:46
[SPEAKER_02]: If you throw in in a couple of interceptions there on the season, and you can kind of live, it's easier to live with the catches.
34:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives up even though, you know, the biggest issue with the catches, a lot of the catches given up is,
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got short arms.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in great position.
35:00
[SPEAKER_02]: He just doesn't have the length to attack the catch point and work around receivers, which also leads to some of the penalties.
35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He's picked up that lack of length is just such a big issue for him.
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So just be a little bit more aggressive.
35:12
[SPEAKER_02]: There's been a couple opportunities for him.
35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, just the lack of length kind of hurt him in those regards a little bit.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to work on that, passionate hand would be nice to see him kind of get one or two, not just in the jet's game, but over the next couple of weeks and start trying to spark that the defense a little bit with generate internovers or even Nick, but need a Stripsac, something to spark the turnover aspect of it, because that is again, as you touch on, that is one of the ways that this defense can take it to the next level.
35:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you go on back real quick with something that you said about getting out there early.
35:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what's one way to, I mean, I mentioned Vance Joseph selling out to stop the run.
35:56
[SPEAKER_02]: What's one way that the offense can help them.
35:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Put points on the board.
35:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Make it to where the jets have to be one dimensional because they have a chance of being blown out of the game.
36:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a game where I really would like to see the offense as you touch on, get out there, score early, score quick and not just feel goals get it into the end zone and help take away their running game from the defense.
36:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Because when you sell out the defense or sell out against the run on defense, it is really open in the door for explosive plays and the jets do have a potential major threat in Garrett Wilson.
36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, no, Alan Lazzard in this game, thankfully, so that kind of limits it.
36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be out for personal reasons, uh, so that limits the impact and the other past the game a lot, but it also helps the running game a little bit, because that feels such a threat with his legs when passing is not there, that you kind of take that out a little bit of it, take that teeth out of the offense a little bit as well.
36:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:53
[SPEAKER_00]: in no doubt.
36:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike talking about Bonax questions.
36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, good and their pressure comparatively becomes a decent deep author.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be sold.
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen the the stat making way about the connections on the the deep all that people are pointing at to a say Bonax has been great in the deep on I would be curious what the rates are, right?
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you are
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say it's kind of like you're a three point shooter and you have somebody who shot made four of six and another guy made five of 50.
37:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, he made more three pointers.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he also missed significantly more.
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the rate now granted?
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: How many actual deep balls are you seeing a game?
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's obviously a grotesque hyperbole on my end to pre-repoint.
37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But just hoping to see a little bit more connection on the deep balls I would love to see what the
37:41
[SPEAKER_00]: The chart looks like spray chart with the data is as far as the deep balls go.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's unfortunate because you see, I'll just use the Mekka Booka and Baker Mayfield, for example, down the field and it's like a pinpoint deep throw where a Booka makes a great play, but also, you know, Baker puts it in a good spot.
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just that,
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: bonus is hit on some deep balls.
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that he's missed some that were beyond open.
38:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like as open as you can possibly be in the NFL and the margins are small and the thing is they're there and they're taking those aggressive shots.
38:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to look at it as a positive that I think it's something that they can work on and connect and correct and also.
38:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think deep all passes are as much a wide receiver statistic as they are a quarterback stat at the end of the tracking the pacing of your feet and all of that and making the play and on the ball and still carrying your momentum.
38:33
[SPEAKER_00]: There's as much wide receiver as quarterback.
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully they can correct it.
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not all on bonus but it's something you want to keep an eye on.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: The one step aside's under pressure for the Broncos pass game in a granted small sample size often has been erratic, but right now the Broncos are the fourth worst team in the entire NFL in a success rate in the dropback game so that you're down to down success.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They are fees are famine and that chargers game was the perfect epitome of where their stats are at this is.
38:59
[SPEAKER_00]: using our RBSDM.com, and I always use the filter taking garbage time excluding the 10% range.
39:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's only plays that of where the wind probability no team is at 10 or 90%.
39:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Broncos are fourth worst in the NFL in drop-back success rate.
39:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So far the season at just 44.2% compared to the top teams at 60%, 56% everybody in the top 10 is at 50%.
39:30
[SPEAKER_00]: need to work on.
39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any thoughts about that as well?
39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously a lot of the big scheme stuff is there, but what does love the Broncos to be so poor as far as the efficiency and down to down ability in the past game?
39:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a multitude of issues.
39:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, there's issues with bone eggs or some issues with receivers.
39:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Denver's receivers are doing a pretty good job getting open, but they have had some gamies, and this kind of goes to some of those deep passes, of drops, and it's just showing up at an option times, mentality of bone eggs is one that's kind of questionable, especially a highlight of this, and my film article for this week,
40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: third downs, especially on third and short situations.
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been very boomer bus going for it all or taking nothing.
40:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Just he's got to be a little bit more passive, I guess, with it and not as aggressive and take with the defense gives you that can really help boost the success rates with it, just helping yourself helping your team get ahead on early downs, playing for the first down on third down and set up going for it all.
40:32
[SPEAKER_02]: granted on the very first third down third and five the deep shot to Sutton that was a drop by Sutton that Sutton should have caught and he it was probably one of the better throws from Bonax a season he read the play he read it very well he saw Sutton with a spacing that he did drop it right in the bucket such as this pointing what's such a heartbreaker especially when you add issues Bonax has had hitting on those deep shots and you have a
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect one right in the bucket and it gets dropped goes right through the arms of That's always tough.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So just kind of cutting it down the aggressiveness on third down a little bit But not to the point where you're throwing it short because that was the answer that bonix had against the eagles
41:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going deep a lot on third down and then he started throwing it short of the sticks and trying to get his receivers to make a play nothing wrong with that, but it was still missed opportunities not seeing, you know, receivers that are getting open for the percent and failing to convert on the first down.
41:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's just things like that with Bonyx specifically that you got to you got to work on.
41:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And the receivers.
41:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They got to do a little bit better.
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And then pass protection.
41:39
[SPEAKER_02]: This was against eagles and eagles in particular, the running back pass protection was got off from everyone.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's got to be a little bit better.
41:47
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're especially when you're Hounding JK Dobbins and Tyler.
41:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But as those past blockers, you got to get better from them to help buy the extra second for Bonix to make that read that he needs to make to convert on, you know, third down and help that success rate because only we are successful play on third down is picking up the first down.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to be able to, you got to give him that time to do that.
42:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So not all on Bonix for the lack of success rate.
42:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the quarterback at all ends and starts with him when it comes to the passing game, so you got to do, he's got to take, make those improvements and then the pieces around him need to make those improvements to help him out.
42:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're saying it because we're pulling for him to be the best, right?
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if a lot of the key stats, they've not been good enough so far this season, but Denver is still winning.
42:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, outside of that Titan's game, he has been avoiding a lot of the catastrophic plays.
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He still has, as a quarterback, as you know, kind of
42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: it's kind of like each row being really good at getting singles and getting on base like bonus's ability to avoid sex and his pressure to sack rate being so good is kind of inflating the Broncos EPA per pass right now where the success rates not great the explosive play connection has not been great but Denver because of a bonus not taking
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of catastrophic sex and a granity had two or one verse, the Eagles, and then an intentional grounding, which I don't know if that counts in the EPA, because I don't know if the play exists and is built in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It should probably count, because it's a past play that you lose it down and everything about.
43:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it actually does, but Denver's 18th and drop back EPA per play because
43:32
[SPEAKER_00]: bonus is the 8th best quarterback in the NFL in pressure to sacrate so far this season.
43:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the only statistic that has him in the key quarterback step that has him in the top 15.
43:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So far this season.
43:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the play has been, right?
43:49
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean that's exactly what he's going to be.
43:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And you see enough flashes to have proof of concept that if the consistency gets a little bit better there, it's going to be fine.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is also a
44:00
[SPEAKER_00]: A reality of a lot of Sean Peyton offenses early in the season is they're a little bit clunky as they try to get everything into very wordy offense and it takes a lot of coordination in the past game.
44:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So best is still yet to come and I think that Bonyx, do I think he's going to be a top five quarterback in the NFL, Sean Peyton said.
44:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man, there's some really talented quarter picks in the league and I haven't seen that consistent, let's see enough of consistently enough for him, but he has a chance to be a really good franchise quarterback.
44:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I can top 10 and playing in like a Baker may field or a, I had to say back press, Scott, because deck is so good in the drop back, quit game, and Knicks has not been there obviously with his success rate and everything, but I think that kind of caliber is still in the cards for him.
44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of,
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: and he's definitely got enough arm talent and he's a good athlete he's built so again optimism still even if what we have seen so far hasn't been good enough for as far as a long-term franchise guy we got plenty of time and the coach believes in him he's got the right mental makeup the locker room believes in him I'm still optimistic
45:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and there's plenty of reasons to be optimistic and highlighting some of the issues with his play.
45:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not sitting here trying to tear him down.
45:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just these areas or to be better.
45:20
[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to work on.
45:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's because he's been drafted to be the franchise quarterback for the Broncos.
45:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, even those of us who weren't super high on him, pretty Jeff.
45:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're still brought close fans, we still want him to be the franchise quarterback.
45:34
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to be back in quarterback purgatory like we were like the jets have been for so many years.
45:40
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to be like that.
45:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So we want Bo next to work out.
45:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to see these areas improve and it's just these are elements that just slight improvements could help take his game to a another level and see those see his play overall improved because a lot of it can translate from one
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: on where to go at the ball.
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that can help set up better third downs and better conversion rate for the product was on third down.
46:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It can all translate to help in the running game.
46:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It all helps together.
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all, you know, it works in the innocent, and all that.
46:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So, just want to see more out of bone eggs.
46:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And not that it's been bad.
46:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not expecting fourth quarter equals game bone eggs.
46:21
[SPEAKER_02]: All game long, every single game.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just hyper unrealistic.
46:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you can get close to that,
46:29
[SPEAKER_02]: at pretty consistently, then the Broncos can easily have a, probably at least a top 10 offense.
46:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They are so close and a bonus can just make these improvements as offense.
46:41
[SPEAKER_02]: can be so much better because the play calling has been really good pretty consistently throughout this season.
46:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Sean Peyton is really showing that he he knows his stuff.
46:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He setting up play calls to attack defenses where they're weak at and we saw that against the chargers game.
46:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was really working the underneath game getting guys in space and just the Broncos and not just but next, but the Broncos overall were unable to execute at the level needed.
47:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
47:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It all starts with Bonix, as I said before, it's not all him, but there is a lot of room for improvement again.
47:13
[SPEAKER_02]: This offense can be one of the better offenses in the NFL this year, if they can get some of those improvements out of Knicks.
47:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know doubt to hope and for the best there, we do have some news error coming out because it is London.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So practices already happening out there in Denver.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: We have Chris Thomason saying that Malcolm Roach is practicing.
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He's out on the field doing drills.
47:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's great news.
47:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, it is Matt Pert starting at left guard for the Broncos.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The other news for the Broncos is that Jared Siddham has made it his way out.
47:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if him in his wife.
47:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the baby is here.
47:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to stay back because his wife was expecting.
47:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to them if that's the case.
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.
47:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would assume so if he's already back in London.
47:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing that pops up here didn't know about Jonah Ellis, not practicing today.
48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He worked on the side.
48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So keep in eye on the depth there.
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is a Q Robinson first time getting a jersey game this season.
48:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's gotten one yet, but we're keeping on that.
48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But the big news, parrot.
48:16
[SPEAKER_00]: out there, getting left guard reps and Malcolm Roach out there practicing.
48:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So, do you good game to have them back?
48:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, they opened his practice window last week, but I believe last Thursday and he was just working on the sideline last week.
48:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So now he's actually back in practice, which is great to see one of those things that it's a step towards getting him back for the game.
48:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Sean put in typically likes to get a full week of practice from a player before activating them off of injured reserve.
48:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So if that holds true, well, then probably not getting a roach back this week, but again, they're going to get an expected roster spot open.
48:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you're in London, it's hard to fill that roster spot unless you're signing activating somebody or bringing somebody up from the practice squad.
49:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Malcolm Roach, that's roster spot being open because Ben Powers will land on injuries or if it's just a matter of when probably be today.
49:09
[SPEAKER_02]: then you got to fill that you're going to fill that spot and Malcolm much is the likely candidate for that, uh, that way you don't have to cut someone from somewhere else.
49:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then you have the options of then Calvin Throckmore and being acted called up for the practice quad for the next few games.
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, so you don't have to bring in the guard right away.
49:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So that opens the door for, again, doors open for Roach to come back.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not this week, but him being
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what should have been expected.
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Sean Payton, he loves his left side back up.
49:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He loves his right side back up.
49:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That's been a thing throughout his whole coaching career.
49:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And Matt Piert has been that back up left side as I was talking about earlier.
49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
49:53
[SPEAKER_00]: The other news here, the Sean Payton, talking to Chris Thomason, who does a great job.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The Sean Payton said, we'll see when asked if Matt Piert is going to start at left guard.
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out, Sean Payton, for the,
50:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome quote there about what the Broncos are going to do.
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, what would you expect from Sean Payton?
50:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, Broncos offensive line.
50:15
[SPEAKER_00]: hoping to talk about it a little bit last night.
50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I think they can weather one injury on the unit for a bit.
50:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unfortunate it's going to be eight, seven plus weeks as opposed to just a four week stand or two week, like kind of like we saw with Maglinchio last season, but we're going to find out about Sean Payne.
50:34
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to find about Zach's streaf and some of this depth on this line.
50:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So, hoping for the best and
50:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to find out a bit more about bonus.
50:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not expect him, granted, you can do some of it with quarterback play in the scheme, but I don't expect him to be far in a way the least pressured quarterback in football with change in the offensive line.
50:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have expecting a little bit more to be on his plate, because I think the run game will probably take a little bit of a hit as well.
50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Luckily, they have the Jets game first because they're going to need to work on some communication and past protection rules coming up against the giants who are dreadful, but my God, they have horses on the defensive front.
51:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the best in the NFL.
51:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a star man.
51:17
[SPEAKER_02]: outside it like they have a lot of issues, but man, that defense of front is so good.
51:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And then even when you touch on it, jets coming up first, that's a good thing.
51:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they have couldn't Williams.
51:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He has not been good this year.
51:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They've been really bad at front despite all the talent that they do have.
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And granted, they've been doing with a few injuries to guys up there.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe German Johnson is out.
51:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe he's on the injured reserve
51:46
[SPEAKER_02]: which.
51:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but anyways, they're dealing with injuries upfront, which isn't helping things, but they're talent upfront isn't performing.
51:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, McDonald has been their best guy up front and he is fine of a player, a fine player, not a great one, a lot of issues there.
52:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is very good.
52:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't say very good.
52:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's obviously never very good when you're dealing with an injury.
52:10
[SPEAKER_02]: but the quality of opponent being what it is against the jets with how many issues they're having up front.
52:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of its communications, it's likely still don't have the defensive calls down.
52:19
[SPEAKER_02]: However, there's a lot of wrong-capping run, or wrong-run lane fills, like it's just a lot wrong with this defense of front.
52:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you're doomed, have an injury, this isn't a bad opponent to be facing against with what their issues to get that communication down, which you're good at need with Matt Pear.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So last night, as we get out of here, I made the prediction of 33 to 9 Denver, typically I'm a little bit more guarded, but I just hope this is a built, you know, what game for Denver step on the 3rds early.
52:50
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a jet team that's circling the drain.
52:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't be surprised if they're in the hotel, saying 1, 2, 3 Cabo, already sitting there at 0 and 5 on the season, especially with the bills and the Patriots in their division look in pretty feisty.
53:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm open Denver, can just, you know,
53:06
[SPEAKER_00]: cracks and schools early and take their will away.
53:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And then with that, you can protect the offensive line, bonus and everything sprinkling in the run and everything.
53:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go 33 to nine.
53:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what was this girl last year in the Falcons game?
53:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 43 to 6 or something.
53:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it won't be that drastic as when Denver just absolutely destroyed the Falcons.
53:28
[SPEAKER_00]: but I think this is a chance to be a pretty good get-right game for Denver and I really hope they jump on them early and crews control from there.
53:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's going to be as dominant from the defense as we saw them play the bingles where they didn't cross midfield after the first half but I'm hoping it's a little bit more a better game from the the offense overall and they can build on what we saw in the fourth quarter of the last game.
53:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not
53:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'll be doing that today.
54:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll give my score prediction on Friday.
54:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Then of course to Malah have a round table score predictions.
54:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do have been for winning this one and I don't have it being close.
54:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I do know that.
54:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm just not set on the exact score yet.
54:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is one where Denver's offense, you know, we talked about the Bengals game being a get right game for the defense.
54:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And the offense started to put it together, this is a game where the offense can again really focus on the finer issues that they have and work on correct them as well as getting map here adjusted and ready to be a starter for the next two months at least so There's a lot of there's a lot on their plate in a lot to fix, but the jets are a bad enough opponent that you don't want to overlook them don't come in wrong not saying overlook them
54:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But enough where you can really look at doing that and if things are starting to get a little bit out of hand, you should be able to turn things around and find the openings because this team loves to stay in man and Bonaics has done pretty well against man throughout his whole career.
55:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something that you can that Sean Peyton and Bonaics can fall back on if things aren't going their way early on.
55:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But hopefully things are going their way early on and they can just force the jets the past and then just really run away with the game.
55:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, and one final quote here from Chris God bless him real time as of one minute ago, Sean Payton said Malcolm Roach got really good work today.
55:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So keeping an eye on it, appreciate everyone coming in here.
55:26
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55:32
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56:03
[SPEAKER_00]: really appreciated when Todd said stop texting your friends.
56:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
56:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a daycare message.
56:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what's going on.
56:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just smile looking down.
56:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that my crush sometimes.
56:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I think is referencing this comment from Mike Thompson.
56:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, about every time he's went for boat from wrong or time he takes the buddy that Bo look sharp.
56:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He falls apart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what Todd was getting at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
56:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
56:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So appreciate everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Erica is great to see you again on Monday.
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56:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I always say if you guys have any questions, I want to dig further into anything we said or disagree.
56:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We're never working with all the puzzle pieces and we're trying to prognosticate.
56:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to get things wrong that from time to time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a difference of opinion is totally fine and something like football.
56:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
56:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So appreciate you guys.
56:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great rest of your day.
56:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great week.
56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully the Broncos win.
56:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Michael Ronkio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God bless you, Michael.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kindest compassion folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go Broncos.