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THE JOY JOLT LIVE with Nat & Sue: Joy Forward · The Joy Jolt Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Joy Jolt Podcast.
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  Boom!
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  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
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  I always feel like there has to be some noise or some kind of
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  like something,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about the jolt.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think some kind of like...
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
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  My mom used to walk around the house and I loved it because my
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  mom would do this thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: She'd do this clap.
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  SPEAKER_01: She'd go, oh, I'm so excited.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, and I was like, my mother was the original joy jolter.
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  yes you know and it was so fun to be I remember just sitting on
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  the couch and mom
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  would round around by the couch and there would be a whoa and
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  so I think that's
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  where I want to start today is don't be afraid to incorporate
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  your own Joy Jolt
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  expression so that you can try it on right and and whatever
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  noise comes out um is
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  right but it it does start from a noise it starts from
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  interrupting the mundane
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  SPEAKER_01: interrupting what you're doing so that you can shift the energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's going to require you to make some noise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm a big SNL fan.
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  And I don't know if you remember the skits about Sally or
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  Mally,
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  you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm 50.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she can kick.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I can stretch.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I can kick because I'm 50.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm 50.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Sally.
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  yeah right she was awesome I loved it but yeah some of that
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  movement's so important
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  right kind of getting through some of that and that's how pouts
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  to joy is being
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  SPEAKER_00: silly and having fun and
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  SPEAKER_01: God, I'm really getting that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm really getting that.
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  There was a period in my marriage where I realized as an adult,
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  we really forgot.
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  SPEAKER_01: How do you play as an adult?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's fun?
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  SPEAKER_01: What is play?
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  It's different because I have two kids and I realized as a
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  mother,
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  I'm not a kid anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm an adult because a lot of the kids games, boring.
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  SPEAKER_01: They didn't keep my attention.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not fun doing some of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do you think that is?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that because we, as an adult, we don't tap into our imagination?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I think with some of those boring kids games,
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  SPEAKER_00: another element of that was our imagination,
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  SPEAKER_00: which added that,
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  SPEAKER_00: what made it fun for us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Come on, Nat, back in our day, all we had was our imagination.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Back in the olden days.
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  SPEAKER_01: All of the toys and all the things that children have to occupy them now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, where is your imagination?
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  SPEAKER_01: But I do think there's an element of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also kind of the surrender.
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  But also the truth is what was fun to me back then is not the
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  same fun to what is fun to me now.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's not negative.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's normal.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's growing up.
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  SPEAKER_01: But that doesn't mean I don't
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't deserve to still have fun and I don't desire to still play.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I think as adults,
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  SPEAKER_01: we have to work a little bit harder to figure out like,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: what's going to make me,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: have a jolt?
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  What's going to give me some,
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  you know,
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  some juice and something that's positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, you know, I'm one of eight children.
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  And so my mum was brilliant at being able to create fun games
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  and fun things out of nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: They didn't cost any money because, you know, we didn't have a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we used to,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: play things like baseball and,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  dress up as Easter Bunny at Easter and give out Easter eggs and
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  all these kind of
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  SPEAKER_00: things.
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  which you know I there was definitely a period of my life where
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  I went I'm too cool
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  to do this stuff now like I'm just too cool for that and then I
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  realized that if I
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  just suspended that and got back into my childlike nature and
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  was able to really
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  participate with my nieces and nephews and all of that then
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  then then I started to
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  SPEAKER_00: connect more with my joy so maybe what what's uh it limits us
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  from the intensity or the amount of joy that we get to
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  experience in our life is
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  SPEAKER_00: that maybe the doorway to that is to stepping into some childlike energy,
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  SPEAKER_01: even if it's just for a moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: And maybe the childlike energy isn't about you becoming a child.
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: It really is about the invitation to look at the world with wonder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what I think about that,
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  SPEAKER_01: that idea of like kids just think everything,
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  SPEAKER_01: like a real kid that's involved,
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  SPEAKER_01: like,
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  SPEAKER_01: whoa,
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  SPEAKER_01: and they're not afraid to get excited.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not afraid to ask questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not afraid to not know.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not afraid to not just to make it up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  And so I think that that wonder and that excitement and giving
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  yourself permission
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  Those are all things that I think about One of the practices
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  that I do every week
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  is I go dancing Tuesday mornings and it's either in the jungle
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  or on the beach
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  which is super amazing and I dance with this group of women and
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  we just let our
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  bodies move and I think there's something really powerful in
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  the idea of letting
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  SPEAKER_01: your body just move
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  SPEAKER_01: and that we don't do that enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: We sit so still all day long.
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  And so it's like,
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  oh,
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  even right now,
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  just let yourself move a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that it's like,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  that you're giving yourself permission to unlock some of that
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  energy because that's
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  SPEAKER_01: like children are moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the class that you do, it's not just dance.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is our girlfriend, Misty Tripoli.
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  SPEAKER_00: What does she call it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, she calls it groove.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is all about getting back in your body and moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: and dancing,
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  but moving in a way that really connects you back to yourself
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  and in a way that you
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  SPEAKER_00: do it without fear of judgment.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I think sometimes like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm very much,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: guilty of like,
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to be cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to look cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm the cool kid, whatever.
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  But I've done these classes with you on the beach and it's all
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  about not caring
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  SPEAKER_00: what other people are doing
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  SPEAKER_00: Just focusing on yourself and what feels good in the moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: In the moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not just dance.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, it's personal permission.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's permission to invite your whole self into a space.
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  and permission to do that with other people who are also giving
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  themselves permission.
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  I actually had a really interesting experience this week I'd
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  love to share.
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  And one of the common exercises,
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  the instructor of this class,
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  her name is Dani.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so she does a little bit of a different type of a groove,
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  SPEAKER_01: but she's developed her own type of method.
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  And her statement was,
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  okay,
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  give yourself permission to go back to your seven-year-old
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  self.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, which is much like what we were talking about, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: That sense of go back to that childlike wonder.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was really fascinating because for me in that moment,
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  SPEAKER_01: as I was moving and she gave that instruction,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why,
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  SPEAKER_01: but my body shot itself forward.
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  SPEAKER_01: I imagined myself as an 80 year old woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was inhabiting the body of my future self.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was so wild.
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  And I was completely sober,
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  just so you know,
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  it was 9am on a Tuesday morning,
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  okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: So this was just this experience I had,
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  SPEAKER_01: and it was amazing for me to be in that much joy with my future self.
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  And it did spark me to write then this article I wrote this
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  week about Joy Forward.
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  because I think there's so much in trying to grasp at joy
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  that's from backwards
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  like we can remember when we had fun we can remember when we
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  had a good time we
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  could remember when we had that whoa that experience but what
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  if the practice is
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  about giving yourself permission to revel in the joy that's
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  still ahead yeah you
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  know and I was an 80 year old woman who was like look at me I'm
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  still moving
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  SPEAKER_01: and still loving my body.
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  I could feel my crepey skin,
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  but I still loved what the sun felt like on my skin.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a really empowering,
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  SPEAKER_01: fun,
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  and awe-inspiring experience to let myself think about joy not
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  as a thing that I
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  SPEAKER_01: have to dig up from my past,
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  SPEAKER_01: but a thing that I get to live into in my future.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like joy forward.
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  Yeah well reimagining our future I think is a skill that we
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  really want to hone
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  right now because you know as we've said life is heavy right
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  now like I mean I had
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  a moment this week where I honestly felt like an elephant was
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  sitting on my chest
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  I'm like okay this is and you know and here is the challenge
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  that when I'm focusing
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  SPEAKER_00: on that and then I'm focusing on the challenge is
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  SPEAKER_00: and then I'm like, okay, how do I get out of this?
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  SPEAKER_00: How do I do this?
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  SPEAKER_00: How do I solve this?
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  SPEAKER_00: What is the solution here?
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't,
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  there's no way I'm going to see a solution if all I'm doing is
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  focusing on the
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  SPEAKER_00: challenge.
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  I know that I need to get to a place where my frequency and my
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  resonance is higher than that.
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  I'm not necessarily saying go from that to joy because that's a
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  huge leap.
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  but it's important that we figure out how to get out of that
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  heaviness into
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  something lighter so that then we can imagine something better
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  and yeah we're in
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  that higher frequency that's where we get to get inspiration
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  and see solutions and
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  and see opportunities that are showing up because otherwise
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  it's like we're like
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  this and we can't yeah you know well and I think I'm like
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  thinking about frequency
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  SPEAKER_01: as the frequency gets heavier
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  SPEAKER_01: It might, you know, it's like it's sitting on your chest.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it feels so, it feels more real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  It feels more real than maybe the levity that we kind of
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  associate to this idea of joy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because joy feels light, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Joy feels effervescent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Joy feels upward in its energy.
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  And when you're sitting there with that proverbial elephant on
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  your chest,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's like,
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  SPEAKER_01: how do you give yourself permission?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think I love that is like looking at it like it's a frequency.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it's like tuning into a different energy, a different frequency.
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  And I love your tool of dimensionalizing that this part of me
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  is really feeling this right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So acknowledge it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Acknowledge the big pink elephant in the middle of your chest.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you can say, can you get the hell off right now?
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  SPEAKER_00: You can talk to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, my number one tool for that, obviously, breath.
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  And,
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  you know,
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  I do a breathe in for four,
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  hold for four,
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  exhale for eight.
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  I do a few of those,
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  you know,
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  just when I realize that I'm feeling that heavy in the moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for me, it's walking.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've got to walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've got to move my body and move the energy out of it.
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  and I'm very fortunate that I live somewhere where I'm on the
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  marina and there's
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  the sun and the water and the things and it's easy for me to
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  shift but Nat what I
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  love that you're saying because coming back to whether it's
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  dancing whether it's
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  walking whether it's breathing it is about movement joy
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  inherently is just open
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  SPEAKER_01: yourself it's an opening it's a moving from being closed to a
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  SPEAKER_01: An expansion to openness.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you have to be intentional to move your body.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's easier to sit on the couch and do nothing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the price you pay is higher.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or what you do is go, I don't feel good.
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  So what is going to,
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  what's a quick fix that's going to make me feel good?
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  SPEAKER_00: That could be zoning out in front of the TV.
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  SPEAKER_00: It could be grabbing a glass of wine.
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  It could be a whole ton of things that are not necessarily
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  healthy for you that are
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  SPEAKER_00: really just avoiding the situation and kicking the can down the road.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if anything,
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  making it worse because now you're in a place where your mind
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  is not open,
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  SPEAKER_00: your energy is not open.
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  SPEAKER_00: and you can't see the solution that could be right in front of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And let me also just say this,
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  SPEAKER_01: because the solution,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you really commit to doing some kind of a movement,
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  SPEAKER_01: interrupting the current pattern that you're sitting in,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to interrupt the pattern,
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  SPEAKER_01: right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I just feel this heavy elephant
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  and when I have an elephant on my chest,
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  the last thing I want to do is move,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's heavy.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then when I start moving,
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  what's amazing is that the process of giving yourself
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  permission to even just sway
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  SPEAKER_01: and just move,
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  it in and of itself helps to solve the problem without you
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  figuring the problem
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  SPEAKER_01: out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's one of the other pieces too,
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  SPEAKER_01: is it's not that everything has to be figured out through this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can get figured out through
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  The other thing that we really need to focus on is what is the
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  story that we're
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  SPEAKER_00: telling ourselves?
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  Because sometimes we'll be in that heavy place and it's like,
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  oh,
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  so this is happening to me.
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  And you go into these victim-based thoughts and go,
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  you know,
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  what am I going to do?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the economy.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course this is happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the war.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is what always happens.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  I have a friend of mine who I'm going to put a link to his to
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  his TED talk,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's one of the best TED talks I've ever seen.
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  SPEAKER_01: And his name is Shawn Stevenson.
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  SPEAKER_01: He passed away a few years ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's a really good friend of mine,
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  SPEAKER_01: but he he had brittle bone disease and he spent his life in a wheelchair.
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  SPEAKER_01: He broke over 200 times before he was 18.
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  And so he experienced a tremendous amount of pain throughout
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  his lifetime.
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  But one of the things that he says in this TED talk that I
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  think is so magical is
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  SPEAKER_01: he says,
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  SPEAKER_01: never believe a story that leaves you disempowered.
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  Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  And what really clicked for me in this is that it's not just
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  about kind of the
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  SPEAKER_01: stories that I'm watching online.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about the real the stories I'm I'm telling myself.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, and it's like, am I telling a disempowering story?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I bet that disempowering story, it's true.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's no more truer than the empowered story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And both things exist at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Both things exist at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the thing is,
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  SPEAKER_00: once you blame something or someone or some situation outside of you,
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  SPEAKER_00: you've lost all power to do anything about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You go, well, what can I do?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the economy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, everyone's in the same boat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've just got to sit in the boat with everybody else.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're creating our own reality through our imagination all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: All the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Through our imagination.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can choose what that story is going to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: We get to choose.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when we're in that low frequency, we don't have a choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no choosing there.
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  We're just at the whim of the emotions and the story that we're
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  telling ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: We need to get up into that high vibration.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we go into the deeper conversation,
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  I'm going to be sharing some specific tools that I use to be
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  able to get you to a
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  SPEAKER_00: place where you can imagine...
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  SPEAKER_00: whatever it is that you want, despite what's happening around you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my life is a testament to this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was even telling the story on an interview the other day,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I haven't told for a while about,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: with Mind Movies,
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  SPEAKER_00: how we came over here to the US,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: we joined a mastermind group,
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  SPEAKER_00: we,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: we racked up like $120,000 on credit cards,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: just to launch Mind Movies to the world.
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  and we ended up doing a $700,000 week selling a $97 digital
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  product in September of
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  SPEAKER_00: 2008 when everyone was losing their homes and their jobs and everything.
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  So despite what was happening out there,
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  we had the biggest success of our lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now,
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  I'm sure that we can all look back at our lives right now and
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  look at moments where
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  SPEAKER_00: we went,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know what,
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  SPEAKER_00: despite what was going on in the world,
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  I was able to create a different result for myself because of
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  the way that I was thinking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I feel like at this point it's every day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: It kind of has to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: it really,
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  SPEAKER_01: you could go down the,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's a lot of joy suckers and balloon poppers.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, there's a lot that you can validate
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  You can validate the elephant sitting on your chest and you can
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  make that elephant
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  SPEAKER_01: heavier and heavier and heavier.
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  And this is not about avoiding reality or not dealing with the
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  difficult conversations.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the exact opposite.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about saying,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  I was I was actually I was writing a post today about how
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  important my joy is to me
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  SPEAKER_01: and that my joy is is something that I will.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not about walking away from something.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's walking towards something else.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  right and so it's even changing that relationship between like
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  I have to let go of
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  this and I have to let go of that no you don't you just got to
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  turn your attention
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  in different direction and walk towards something different
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  because when you're
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  saying you have to walk away from something what are you
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  focusing on you're
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  focusing on walking away from so are you really walking away
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  from it it's like I'm
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  SPEAKER_01: leaving I'm leaving you
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  SPEAKER_01: Why is it following me?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's like,
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  but we very rarely give ourselves permission to really be in
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  the empowered
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  SPEAKER_01: conversation,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is what am I walking towards?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I want to think?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I want to feel?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I want to create?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I want?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I want in my future?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do I want when I'm 80 years old?
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  SPEAKER_01: Most of us think about being 80 and go, oh God, that's so old.
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  But like,
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  what if I'm one of those spunky 80 year old women that just
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  gives people so much joy?
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  SPEAKER_01: We have a friend, her name is Sparky.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am going to be Sparky.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sparky is one of the greatest role models, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it's like these, you see it.
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  And so it's that sense of letting yourself revel in,
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  in what am I walking towards?
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  SPEAKER_01: And it could be exciting.
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  SPEAKER_01: It should be exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't have to be the same thing every day that you imagine.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I call these things like, you know, daydreams with intention.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like you're taking a vacation into the future.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the more that you do that,
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  the more you are retraining your mind and your brain and
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  creating new neural
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  SPEAKER_00: pathways so that when you are thinking about the future,
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  SPEAKER_00: these are the things that pop into your mind.
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  These are the things that come from the subconscious to the
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  conscious mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay,
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  so I'm going to tell one more story before we pop into that
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  deeper conversation,
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  because I know that we have a lot of tools that we're going to
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  actually put into
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  SPEAKER_01: that deeper conversation.
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  But I want to share something because you're talking about
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  going on vacation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jared and I have been married for 20 years.
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  And at the very beginning of our marriage,
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  we went away to Europe for two weeks,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the longest vacation we've ever taken.
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  SPEAKER_01: in our marriage.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now we do a lot of staycations and we always,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I realize we're going away for four weeks in July.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is going to be the longest I've ever been gone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Four weeks.
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  And as an American,
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  Natalie,
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  you know,
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  you've been living in the States long enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: We just take one week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  you know we get one week off in the united states and i i'm
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  really bumping up
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  against like the anxiety that's coming up because of this
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  paradigm that i was
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  raised in around you give yourself one week vacation and and
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  i'm like whoa so this
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  SPEAKER_01: is a really interesting
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  and I was talking to this French girl and she says,
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  oh,
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  no,
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  no,
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  we do three weeks.
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  We do three weeks because in one week you're still in your mind
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  thinking about work.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not until you're in the second week that you're actually there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, wow, I've been missing vacation.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm super excited about even rewriting.
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  I'm 51 years old and I'm having to give myself permission to
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  step into this new
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  SPEAKER_01: paradigm,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's like,
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  SPEAKER_01: My anxiety wants to follow me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be.
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  I'm having to really work on my brain so that I can go into
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  this vacation feeling
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  SPEAKER_01: prepared,
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  SPEAKER_01: feeling excited,
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  SPEAKER_01: and really giving myself permission to enjoy it fully.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, Australia, we get four weeks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I know.
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  And we get about 50 public holidays,
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  which we always turn into long weekends.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because if the holiday actually falls on a weekend day,
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  SPEAKER_00: then we always take the Monday because,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's how we do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because we're so far away from everything,
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  SPEAKER_00: we need the extra time because it takes us 30 hours to get to Europe from
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  SPEAKER_00: Australia.
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  SPEAKER_00: So,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  and then you've got to get over the jet lag and everything and
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  then you get into
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  SPEAKER_00: it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you get into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've got to make it worth it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you guys go.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of Americans don't have passports.
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  SPEAKER_00: So where are we going?
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, anyway, this has been a really fun conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those of you who have joined us live, thank you for being here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Share the Joy Jolt with your community.
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  SPEAKER_01: It really is about just sharing more of this very important conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: How do we invite more people to
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  to intentionally choose to just open themselves in a world
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  where things really feel
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  SPEAKER_01: so tight and many of us have that elephant sitting on our chest.
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  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to jump into the deeper conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nat?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you are listening to us on a platform that is not Substack,
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  SPEAKER_00: please come over and find us on Substack.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can go to thejoyjolt.com.
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  And I would love for you if you're listening to the recording
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  of this to be able to
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  SPEAKER_00: share what you do.
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  when you are in these moments because,
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  you know,
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  we're all going through it right now.
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  So what is it that you do that helps you to get out of that
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  lower frequency into
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  SPEAKER_00: something a little higher that makes you feel better?
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  SPEAKER_00: We'd love to hear your comments on that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Woo!
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  SPEAKER_01: There it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: We'll end with a noise.
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  All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for our paid subscribers,
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  SPEAKER_00: please come and we'll be back here in a couple of minutes for our deeper
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  SPEAKER_00: conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So have a great day, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll chat to you soon.