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Choosing Soul Over Status: Beri Weber’s Journey of Faith and Music · None of Your Business Podcast

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  Do you want to hear something crazy?
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  When I'm on the stage, on a Hess concert or in front of thousands
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  of people and I sing, I am on my island.
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  None of your business, Oshi. None of Your Business, Michael,
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  it's the None of Your Business podcast hosted by Michael and
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  Oshi. Welcome back everybody to
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  another amazing episode of the None of Your Business podcast.
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  I'm your host, Michael Greenfield.
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  With me of course is Co host Oshi Schwartz and we are
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  sponsored by Prime Source. We are produced by Prime Source.
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  So thank you for the Prime Source production team.
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  Thank you to all our subscribers, our listeners, our
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  feedback. No matter what it is, we are
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  loving it. We are doing amazing work.
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  She and we are growing. And Speaking of growth, we are
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  here with someone who helped me grow in life, and I'll explain
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  that in a moment with Barry Webber.
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  Welcome to the program. Hi.
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  Welcome. Thank you for having me.
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  I really appreciate you being here, Barry.
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  I don't know if you remember, but I'm sure you get that a lot
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  too. You don't Remember Me.
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  Yeah, I get it all the time. And I'm a guy who don't
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  remember, which is very, very difficult.
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  Probably my most difficult, my most difficult thing when it
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  comes to, you know, being in public, Like, oh, not again.
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  He's challenging me again. Do you Remember Me?
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  I'm like, like, you could be my customer.
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  I could lose a job. It could be somebody who would
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  be offended and so on. And it's like, I just see so
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  many faces every day. And it's, you know, some people
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  have that talent where they're like, picture store it, not me.
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  Right, right. You just play along.
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  You just pretend. Try my best.
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  You don't. Remember, try.
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  Try to remember. You know, you know what the
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  problem is that some people say, what do you mean in real memory?
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  And I start really feeling bad, like, wow.
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  Like it's probably like, I met him yesterday and I forgot.
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  Like I'm like so off and then after 10 minutes schlepping and
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  then he's like, what do you mean?
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  You were like I we met 12 years ago.
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  I'm like, for that I had to feel bad because I met you 12 years
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  ago. Very 10 years ago I met you, I
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  think it was a little more than 10 years ago and it was by Heshi
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  Kleinman's house and we were doing a fundraiser for some
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  organization and we heard a song.
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  We were all chilling, walking around, schmoozing, and there
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  was a there was someone who looked very like, you know, put
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  together with a beautiful voice and we were listening in the
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  background. Suddenly came on a song, Rebine.
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  That's that's when we heard it for the first time years ago.
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  Yeah. It was over 10 years ago when we
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  heard it before you produced, before you came out with it.
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  Before it came out. Yeah.
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  You were singing it before it came out.
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  I think so. Right.
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  Does that make sense? Yeah.
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  So, so we, we all like we stopped what we were doing and
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  it was like magical. And I'll never forget.
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  It was like Naftali Heshi. I tell you, we're all around.
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  What's what's going on here? Suddenly was all quiet and we
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  started moving slowly towards you and we all started getting
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  mesmerized by the song. It was just, I think it was the
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  first time in a very long time that I heard a singer take a
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  song and just play around with it through his neshama.
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  That's what I felt like. And, and it was just, it was
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  such a major connection to me then.
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  And then of course, I started going to wedding after wedding
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  and I and I hear the the most famous.
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  I'm on my way. I'm so curious, before we start,
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  is that something that you coined is something that you
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  picked up on that whole process of I'm on my way?
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  I grew up. My father was a Schlemmer
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  Kalbach fan. I, I, so I grew up listening to
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  his music, although most, I would say probably 95% of my
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  environment felt that it's wrong to listen to his music.
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  I even got once as a kid in 8th grade, I got I, I was punished
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  because I had a like a tape cassette of Schlemmer Kalbach.
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  He brought it. Hey, there was a day trip, but I
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  was like, he listen to his music left back, you know, like he
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  wanted to degrade me. That's terrible.
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  Let's go back a little weird. We could probably think of many
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  worse things in life, right? For a school to reprimand a
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  student because he has a Shlomo Calabra CD, that's like, I mean,
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  it just boils my blood. It just, it's really angry.
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  And, you know, a lot of people like, you know, have that moment
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  that This is why people go off the direct, right?
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  This, this is one of those reasons.
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  Reason #182 on the list This is it.
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  Well, in their defense, none of them trying to defend anyone,
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  just to put in perspective, you know, certain cultures have
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  certain values and when you're in a culture and you act
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  differently, in order for it to make you aware that you know
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  this is not appropriate and so on, they would give you a
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  consequence. Now, every day that every school
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  has different tolerance levels and so on and so on happens to
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  be it wasn't, wasn't against the rules of the particular, this
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  particular teacher, this particular Muhammad, he was like
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  a very firm, firm, firm guy for him.
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  He probably like lost himself. He's like all over my whole
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  life. Is that the slim Galbos?
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  He's not, you know, he's not, you know, the most decent guy
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  to, to be able to listen to and so on.
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  Maybe because of that, you know, I'm so obsessed with the
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  Schlemmer now. I don't know, but Schlemmer is
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  definitely my. My might have, might have
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  slammer. Well, if only you're 8th grade.
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  Rebbe can hear you now. So.
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  So how did that that thing come to play in the Hopas with the
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  I'm on my way thing? How did that happen?
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  I don't remember exactly how it started, but I guess I was
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  trying to be creative once and I felt like, you know, it was
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  probably like a spiritual wedding or something.
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  And I probably like just was being free and creative and just
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  did that because I'm slightly used to sing it.
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  Then I felt like before you sing him as Kochev, before there's
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  the Yehud, before, you know, when you bring together the
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  house and the kala, you know, Claudia's strong Hashem, we need
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  we need a house, right? Yeah.
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  These, these couple, the the couple is building a house and
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  Hashem doesn't have a house. So we're just saying, Hashem,
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  don't worry, we're on our way. It's it's in our head.
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  Wow, so exactly when it started. That's beautiful.
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  Actually, I don't know. That's OK.
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  Tell us a little bit about your background.
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  Who are you? Where are you from?
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  What's your name? Is it Barry?
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  Is there another name? Where'd you grow up?
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  Tell me about your family. Where where are your parents
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  from? Do you have siblings?
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  Just tell me as much as you can in terms of your your background
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  and your upbringing and just a little bit about who you are.
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  Right, so let's try to make it simple.
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  I grew up in Williamsburg. My family, the reason my family
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  was brought up in the Papa community is because my
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  grandfather, my father's father, was a brother-in-law with a
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  puppet rebbe. So we're like family.
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  Not the puppet roof. The puppet roof that you say
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  that you know that. There's like a joke about that.
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  Yeah, a joke. Like puppet roof.
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  Puppet roof right A sattner wanted a.
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  He's modern Orthodox. He doesn't.
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  Besides the trauma that my that that might have it, you know,
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  punished me for having ipslaim, I have another trauma.
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  I grew up in in Papa and Papa because it was a, you know, side
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  by side with Sattner. Sattner and Williamsburg wanted
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  to have the dominance so anybody that was in their way would be
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  dealt the different way. Bells sounds, trying not to be
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  negative, but you know, it's just my youth, right?
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  And then Papa was labeled Papa, so you like Papa?
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  You don't matter, you know. Wow.
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  Lots of politics, Michael, when it comes to different I'm.
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  Learning. Especially within Williamsburg,
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  which like you said, was dominated by Sotmer.
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  Like, they had the identity of Williamsburg with Sotmer, but
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  there were others are trying to, like, stake their claim a little
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  bit, you know, make their mark. OK, so so you grew up as a
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  pauper? I grew up as a pauper, and so I
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  By default I was in the Heider yeshiva.
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  Then once I outgrew the yeshiva I went to, that's a strong the
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  mirror. Oh.
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  Sorry, that's on the mirror. I was there for three years.
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  Wow. Really, really open my eyes.
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  Really changed my life. And I, just like you, found out
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  there's a thing over there in town still.
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  I found out that there's Jews in the world.
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  I thought this is only Onesburg. I mean, not that.
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  So you grew up sheltered, You grew up very enclosed in your
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  community. Happens to be my father wasn't a
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  close minded person who was very open minded didn't shelter us
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  very much unless it was something that was wrong
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  according to Aloka and so on. I grew up very happy.
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  He he was there for us. He was a shame.
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  You know, he was was dealing and when I was 18 he trusted me to
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  go in Israel. I mean today it's a style
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  everybody goes to Israel, but back then it wasn't so popular.
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  Everybody goes to Israel. You kind of need to be a little
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  open minded, you know a little little free spirit to allow you
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  your kid to go somewhere. I know that I know in your world
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  and today, even in my world, it's it's, it's the standard.
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  But back then it was I remember when I came back and I and
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  somebody taught me how to to play guitar.
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  I was the only Hasidic guy who walked around with with a
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  guitar. It it it was.
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  Like, I mean, you have to see them even back then that played
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  instruments well. Was that something that was?
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  Only two. Only two.
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  One was Joel Brach Oliver Shalom saxophone and one was Yankee
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  Catina. Guitar.
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  But both of them were kind of more of like AI would say, I
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  don't know, modern, but they were considered not like not
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  someone who is what they like. They wouldn't you're going to
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  laugh for me because you don't understand a little the culture.
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  But like they were there was cut, they were shaving the
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  beards. They were like into their, you
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  know, into their fitness and like, I'm just giving an example
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  and I'm not saying necessarily that, well, that was the case.
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  It's a, it's like a certain type of guy.
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  Like when you grew up in citizenship, you're expected to
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  not be in touch with the worldly things you know?
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  They're a little more out-of-the-box.
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  So until 18, you you did you sing at all?
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  I could do that. So I grew up.
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  I, I mean my family, my family, they all know how to sing.
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  And again, back in the days, you have to understand that the
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  evolution of singing, I mean, the patent the last 1020 years
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  changed so much. It was it wasn't like a OK thing
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  or a Mahaba dig a thing to be a singer.
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  It was OK. So you so technically you kind
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  of didn't make it in the business world or you didn't
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  become a Talmud Hakam. So you're like.
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  Yeah. Doing that like it.
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  Was considered second class, you know it.
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  Was kind of like second class when I when I was a when I
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  started off my life with my family, the moist this over here
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  could not handle that there's a singer.
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  They, they, I had issues, but they didn't accept me in the
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  moist this I was for two years running from place to place to
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  place to place to place, except my children.
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  And their only issue was the fact that I'm a singer.
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  It wasn't, I mean, that was the era of Liebish Meltzer, you
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  know, Liebish Meltzer, he did controversial things.
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  He went on a on a concert and wearing a brown suit instead of
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  a black suit. You know, it's like, it's like
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  opening the eyes of everyone. It's not so long ago, but you
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  know, but it, but this is how the world changed today.
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  It's it's OK today. It's a world of social media.
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  It's a way that we see everything and so on.
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  YouTube didn't exist then 20 years ago for.
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  Sure. So I'm curious, so you, you got
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  a guitar you start to play. So, OK, so as a as a child, I
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  was singing, Yeah. But it wasn't the thing that
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  every child who knows how to sing becomes automatically a
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  sensation and a wonder child, you know?
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  I know how to sing. I even sang on albums I sang on
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  Malcolm and David's album I sang on.
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  What'd you sing? Well, do you remember it?
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  I remember it. What is it Do I what I?
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  Did it's called Nagina Bass album?
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  It's one of his albums. OK, yeah.
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  It's it's like a collection album of.
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  So I was a kid. You sang with him?
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  Yeah. So how do they even know about
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  you? How do they know you existed?
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  So how they knew? So I guess even by weddings
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  there wasn't, it wasn't a style like every wedding didn't have a
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  singer. Somebody knew how to sing, they
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  would take a mic. It didn't have any effects.
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  It wasn't professional, so on. I remember by my by my brother's
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  wedding, I like to sing. So I sang on the mic.
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  I was an entire wedding that Can you imagine going to a wedding,
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  you see a child singing on the mic, a 10 year old singing an
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  entire wedding. Like, it's weird, but that's
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  what I did then. So it was known that I know how
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  to sing. It was a cousin's wedding.
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  I would go with two other cousins singing the mic and then
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  I guess someone oh it was JJ Fried.
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  JJ Fried, JJ Fried. We know JJ Fried.
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  Do we? Yeah.
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  He lives in the toner quest. He lives in OK.
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  Plug for Toner Quest. JJ Fried was then like a hacker.
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  He was like involved with MBD and all the Jewish superstars I
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  have. To say this, I'm sorry.
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  JJI love you. He told me once he had one time
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  he was showing me his hair and his ears and I'm like, ah, he
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  you have a lot of hearing ears. He goes I never cut it because
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  the vibrations help me hear music.
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  So when I sing and I make music, it helps me.
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  JJ love you love you. But so he got you into it, which
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  is interesting. OK, so so throughout your
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  journey, when did you? So JJ was someone who
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  understands, Yeah, sound or whatever, as you said.
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  Vibrations. I don't know, but yeah, so he
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  kind of was involved. He put together, he was involved
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  with the Sookie and Ding when they produced albums and so on.
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  So he was kind of like the go to guy when it came to talent OR
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  whatever. I guess he.
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  He made the connection. He saw and he write like this,
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  this job of a producer. You see something, you know, we
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  all see talent, you know, we just get entertained.
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  A producer, his brain works differently.
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  He's like, oh, let's make a business out of it.
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  Let's fix it. Let's, you know, and I guess,
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  you know, he saw something. He he said, OK, I I could use
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  this voice on this album. So he used me for many albums.
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  I sang on MBD's album Mandy Wertergood, MBD's brother Yunus
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  Schwartz. I did their Kinder classics
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  first. Kinder classics are the moisture
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  Goldman bub of Machanishalva bub of albums and so on.
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  So but I wasn't like a front runner.
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  I wasn't like, I wasn't the Kiev.
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  I call it the Kiev. You know, today every kid who
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  knows how to sing becomes a Kiev.
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  He has to say Kaddish. He has to go on the mic, whether
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  you like it or not. But so so I knew how to sing and
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  like I had an inner belief that, you know, that I can probably
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  sing better than others. So when I was in Israel and I
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  went to the the Shook leading to the Koisel and there was like
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  guitars for sale and the guy just blocked my path.
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  I want to buy this guitar. So I writer and I said no, but
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  he wouldn't let me go. And then, you know, then we
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  bargained for, you know, Philly Shekel.
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  I bought my guitar and I had a guitar.
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  So now I have to learn how to play it.
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  And then I, you know, I started playing.
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  So that's once I started playing, I started composing.
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  So I got into the zone, you know, I got into the zone when I
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  got married. I, I, when I, when I got
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  married, I wasn't considering being a singer.
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  It was just I was in in construction and then that.
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  Was your first job construction? Yeah, I rather got into
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  construction. I did railings, woodwork,
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  installed railings. Yeah.
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  And then in 2008, you know, there was the, the, the crash,
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  you know, there was, there was no, there was no work.
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  So jobs and I had a lot of time myself.
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  I was, I was home basically like most of the time.
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  I was newly married two years after my wedding maybe.
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  And my wife told me that her friend's husband at night, she,
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  he goes to Kyle and when he finishes, does he go at night?
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  He goes to the studio and he sings choir and they get paid.
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  I think it was $12.00 an hour and so on.
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  I'm like, wait a minute, I'm the professional worker who gets up
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  6:00 in the morning and I I get $10.00 an hour and he gets
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  $12.00 just for singing Hook me up.
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  So I went, I went and there was a guitar there.
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  So I started playing and the guy was like a regular hostage is
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  playing guitar. No way.
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  You're like a celebrity. That was the beginning of the
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  end that was. The beginning of the end.
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  Wow. Next day I brought my Nana
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  guitar. He was like, huh, Nana, like a
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  regular guy. You're not crazy and you have a
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  Nana guitar. So he right away called up his
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  friends, which is Naftali Schnitzler.
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  Naftali Schnitzler was three months after, you know, he got,
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  he got married and he always dreamt of being a producer.
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  He's like, I think we have a good shit of Javier.
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  He's a guy. He has the has a unique voice.
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  I heard him. He knows how to play.
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  It's more than just another singer.
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  And you want to produce, maybe you want to you want to meet the
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  guy. And so it happened.
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  And so it started work with Schnitzler.
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  And yeah, the rest is history. Wow.
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  Speaking of history then, what was your first album?
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  What was your first? So we started, so we started off
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  with the single, put out a single, which I don't think it
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  was the style to put out singles.
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  I mean, today, because there's, you know, there's social media
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  and there's, there's platforms, online platforms, you can just
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  put out whatever you want. You could put out a voice note,
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  a podcast or whatever. Back then, everything was
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  printed. You know, it was, it was, it was
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  ACD. So what do you mean a single
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  like? Well, I put out ACD just for one
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  song. Like I yeah, I couldn't put out
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  ACD for one song and online who like was very it wasn't very.
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  The distribution digitally changed the game.
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  You know that you can do these kinds of things back then.
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  Remember what the first song I mean it was?
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  Bala Kim, Bala Kim Batafti. I put out a music video to it
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  too, which was also like eye opening.
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  Like it wasn't like doing official music video wasn't I
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  think it was like maybe maybe 2-3 videos before me, like just
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  like has put together something for Lipa and some but it wasn't
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  it wasn't definitely it wasn't like anybody who puts out a song
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  puts out a music video. So this was like a little
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  different. I raised the eyebrows of people
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  to go something new, something fresh.
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  And I'm assuming that's probably the reason why, you know, these
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  schools were afraid. Like where you heading?
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  Like, what is next, Hollywood? We don't want that in our
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  schools, you know, like, so, all right, I'm not dealing with you.
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  Try someone else. Wow.
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  OK, so that was the beginning. You know, we we do something in
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  the beginning of our podcast that's called ChatGPT says what
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  about you? And you're like, whoa, OK,
• 19:31
  what's coming? So I want to tell you, I mean,
• 19:34
  we know you, the world knows you.
• 19:36
  I'm assuming most of our listeners know you, but you
• 19:39
  know, I I read through it and I was like, OK, this doesn't this
• 19:41
  this episode doesn't require perhaps one of those chatsheept.
• 19:44
  But it's something in here that that I was like looking at and I
• 19:47
  was like, OK, I know, I know he's very involved in music.
• 19:50
  And I'll just tell you quickly in case you ever chatsheeptide
• 19:52
  yourself. Yeah, like it's like, it's like
• 19:56
  a bio, right? Yeah.
• 19:57
  Did you ever actually do it on yourself to see what is what the
• 19:59
  world say about? You.
• 20:00
  If not me, that was my children. I don't know.
• 20:04
  The first thing it says is before the stages, the spotlight
• 20:08
  and weddings, he was already showing up for kids who were
• 20:10
  falling through the cracks quietly, consistently and
• 20:14
  without Instagram applause. Now I'm how they know that I
• 20:18
  don't know. I, I don't know.
• 20:19
  So I'm curious what that is. I I do know that I've, you know,
• 20:23
  Tovia was one of my friends introduced me to you a long time
• 20:27
  ago and you came on our pontoon boat and you brought a couple of
• 20:30
  Bucherim with you. But that that was already after.
• 20:32
  After, I didn't even know what that was.
• 20:33
  I couldn't understand. We didn't really schmooze then,
• 20:36
  but I must ask you, what does that mean?
• 20:38
  Where does give me that background of you and?
• 20:40
  OK, So well, obviously you know, everything has in the roots
• 20:45
  something that you know that that eventually allows for it to
• 20:50
  show certain fruits. So if this is my being, if this
• 20:54
  is my reality, now obviously there's something in my root
• 20:57
  that. So as I was a bochen yeshiva, I
• 21:02
  always would rather pick a cabrusa, someone who I could be
• 21:07
  their mentor in a sense. But then when I was in Israel, I
• 21:14
  found out about a yeshiva that was on a farm next to Bachemesh.
• 21:21
  These were for like for kids that came from broken homes,
• 21:25
  like orphans or, or kids that, that just come from families
• 21:31
  that, you know, the father and mother wouldn't get along or
• 21:34
  whatever, like just dysfunctional, dysfunctional
• 21:36
  backgrounds. And this guy had like he had a
• 21:41
  house that rented a house for them and basically kept them
• 21:44
  occupied the whole day just by being farmers in the sense.
• 21:48
  So, you know, they would be, they, you know, they, they, they
• 21:50
  would do their teenager stuff or whatever.
• 21:52
  Like it wasn't there were, there were no smartphones.
• 21:56
  Maybe there was, I don't remember.
• 21:58
  No, maybe they were smart, but like they had they their gamings
• 22:03
  and their computers and so on. But at the but the most time
• 22:07
  they they would do creative stuff like planting, being busy
• 22:11
  with animals. And so I signed up to be
• 22:16
  involved over there. So I would go every night, I
• 22:20
  would go there and just take, make some basically shadow them
• 22:25
  be. Like a Big Brother program.
• 22:28
  Right. So I would, I would sleep there.
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  I would when I finished yeshiva like around 4:00 in the
• 22:34
  afternoon, I would take a ride to get to that place.
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  I would spend there the whole night and wake them up in the
• 22:41
  morning and then go back in the morning Yeshiva.
• 22:43
  So basically I, you know, I was there entertainment, I was
• 22:45
  basically took care of them. So that was really my first
• 22:49
  introduction to something to that, to that to that extreme.
• 22:53
  So probably this is what ChatGPT, I don't think I ever
• 22:56
  spoke about this. Maybe I did, I guess I did
• 22:58
  because how would ChatGPT know about that?
• 23:00
  So. Or someone else spoke about it
• 23:02
  about you, right? Right.
• 23:04
  So that was your your first eye opening to the world of
• 23:07
  dysfunction and and family and boys that have challenges and
• 23:10
  mentoring and mentoring as well. Because I would sit with them
• 23:14
  and I would, I would play guitar and I would chill and we would
• 23:18
  take donkeys at night. Every night we had a lot of
• 23:21
  donkeys. Everybody would sit on donkey,
• 23:24
  would walk out like to like half hour like outside like a
• 23:27
  mountaintop. We'd sit down like watch under
• 23:30
  the stars and we'd put a fire and sing, you know, like, yeah,
• 23:34
  that was. And and of course, when, you
• 23:36
  know, this happened, everybody felt like very intimately
• 23:40
  vulnerable to be able to share and so on and so on.
• 23:43
  And I didn't have any experience in psychology or of, you know,
• 23:49
  of how to deal with emotional issues and so on.
• 23:51
  But I just used my common sense to, you know, just to act
• 23:56
  appropriately, I'll say, and, you know, and then just to be a
• 23:59
  listening ear and so on. And.
• 24:01
  Provide friendship and love and support.
• 24:05
  That's typically what people most of the time.
• 24:06
  What did you learn from that, from that whole, you know, time
• 24:10
  that you were doing this? I'll.
• 24:11
  Be very honest with you. You know, I see it every day.
• 24:13
  But I mean, Shiva, there's, there's a lot of knowledge that
• 24:17
  is being, that is, that is being gifted to them.
• 24:23
  And, and I always want to like, I'm, when I, I get to think
• 24:28
  like, like how much, how much of how much of that does really do
• 24:33
  they really absorb? Like they're 1617 year olds,
• 24:37
  Like their mind does not function the way like somebody
• 24:40
  who had life experiences and so on.
• 24:43
  You know, I'm not talking about somebody who's smarter, not
• 24:45
  smarter, but I'm talking even like life experiences allows you
• 24:48
  to observe certain understanding of certain realities and so on.
• 24:52
  So, you know, you know, I can share and some professionals
• 24:56
  could share their professional experiences and opinions and
• 25:00
  guidance and so on, but it's only how much you could absorb,
• 25:04
  you know, how much you get. So I think at that point my
• 25:08
  brain didn't work in AI mean it definitely didn't work the way
• 25:12
  it works now. But I, I was, was just like,
• 25:15
  like more of like a robot, like just doing my thing.
• 25:17
  Like I wasn't like with, you know, OK, maybe it was, but I
• 25:21
  definitely don't remember like that.
• 25:23
  I was like, for me, like life lessons.
• 25:25
  And I was like very deep and like very meaningful.
• 25:28
  I was just like. I'm like strategic or calculated
• 25:32
  I. Consider myself like as a
• 25:33
  hippie, like I can do that. I'm a guy who can just chill out
• 25:36
  on a farm and not be afraid of animals and, you know, just ride
• 25:40
  on a donkey and be there for kids who are not khasidish and
• 25:45
  so on and so on. I just for me, it was like, it
• 25:47
  was like a trip. It was like a journey.
• 25:49
  It was like a, you know, like an outskirt you.
• 25:53
  Know best way to live? That's the best way.
• 25:55
  It's a certain, you know, I didn't.
• 25:57
  I didn't. Unburdened.
• 25:59
  Yeah, it wasn't like the growth. I mean, now if I look back at
• 26:02
  it, it was definitely something that, you know, that, you know,
• 26:05
  it's just, you know, it gives me perspectives and certain things
• 26:08
  and so on. And I grow from it now.
• 26:10
  But back then I didn't feel necessarily that, you know, this
• 26:13
  is what gives me life tips and so on.
• 26:15
  It was for me like a form of entertainment or like an outlet
• 26:18
  for me to be able to do what I did and make me feel good and so
• 26:22
  on. So, so Fast forward a little
• 26:24
  bit, this Shiva that you're involved with, I mean, so she
• 26:28
  what, what you don't know about our relationship is that we met
• 26:31
  each other a few weeks ago. First of all, I met him in the
• 26:34
  beginning. I have to say this because it's
• 26:36
  just fun to talk about. When we started off our podcast,
• 26:39
  I had made 5 phone calls to different people asking them to
• 26:43
  come on or what their thoughts are.
• 26:45
  And one of them was to this holy soul over here.
• 26:48
  And he tells me, listen, what you basically said to me was
• 26:52
  everybody likes to start things. Everybody likes to start things.
• 26:55
  And when you have it and you're doing it for more than a year
• 26:58
  and you have enough subscribers that are actually making impact
• 27:01
  on this world, call me. And then I met him in the Shook
• 27:03
  a few months ago. And I, I had the opportunity to
• 27:06
  meet your whole family. And I said, remember that
• 27:08
  discussion? We're there or she and I got
• 27:10
  there. So I need you to come on.
• 27:11
  And then a few weeks ago, we met when you were, I came to a
• 27:15
  meeting by UC Chern's house and Barry was there with a few
• 27:19
  people and they were discussing opening up a yeshiva for boys
• 27:23
  that don't fit in. And it was at the same time that
• 27:27
  I started this journey of opening, of reopening up a
• 27:30
  school in Muncie for high School, for Girls that was
• 27:33
  shutting down mid year. And we were both looking at each
• 27:35
  other. And I was like, let's divide and
• 27:37
  conquer. You go ahead and take care of
• 27:39
  the boys that need that and I'll go ahead and take care.
• 27:41
  And Barkhosham, I have to say a month later, our school, our
• 27:44
  opening houses now. And you know, we're doing
• 27:47
  fantastic. It's the new Oros.
• 27:49
  Rev Hirsch. And the yeshiva is also running.
• 27:51
  And the yeshiva is also running, so we partnered with each other
• 27:53
  in that moment. Today we finished the first
• 27:55
  week. Wow, how's?
• 27:56
  That I mean, I've I've done this issue.
• 27:58
  I mean, I've done this issue in the past and, and I just
• 28:01
  reopened because there was a lot of challenges.
• 28:04
  Whatever. I, I, I don't think I should go
• 28:06
  into it. But the point was that I, I got
• 28:09
  pushed by Madaba Jemiah Morgan Stern.
• 28:11
  He was like, that's definitely the reason why I did it.
• 28:14
  But before I was going to jump in again and restart, mean to
• 28:18
  say I was involved the entire time since I started 10 years
• 28:22
  ago till now, I was constantly involved in different ways like,
• 28:28
  you know, I was until today, you know, there's the left team
• 28:31
  centre, the left, the left Toyota yeshiva, whatever.
• 28:35
  They have their own good day. And I'm still involved and I was
• 28:37
  there yesterday and I still talk to them and I, you know, and I
• 28:39
  help out, you know what I could, but running the whole program
• 28:43
  like financially and being the, you know, the, the responsible
• 28:47
  guy that I didn't do for two years.
• 28:51
  And now I just had a whole new group of boys that just came
• 28:55
  forward. Whatever we can get into it how
• 28:58
  it happened. But Lamai said that the nail on
• 29:02
  the coffin last, I mean, in a good way.
• 29:04
  The, you know, what made it happen was technically easy
• 29:09
  turns that support. We were looking for partners and
• 29:12
  support, like I know from experience exactly what could
• 29:17
  help something and what could make it collapse because I've
• 29:20
  been through both and I the last thing that we wanted to have on
• 29:26
  top of everything being in place, we needed a support from
• 29:32
  people who are have wide shoulders and you see he's one
• 29:37
  of them. Thank you sham.
• 29:39
  He was asking right away to be there for whatever he could help
• 29:44
  and so on. And you were there to witness
• 29:48
  it. So we went there and you see
• 29:51
  said right away, absolutely. And you also jumped in.
• 29:56
  You said right away, I'm I'm here to help, you know, I know
• 29:59
  what I could have what I can't help, but I'm like any help, You
• 30:02
  know, we have, we have a lot of people who always say, Oh, wow,
• 30:06
  I want to you know, they say in Yiddish Si Zugen and Lieben
• 30:10
  doesn't hurt, promise and to love doesn't hurt, right, But it
• 30:16
  does hurt when somebody promises you and you rely on the person
• 30:19
  and then. They don't come through, Yeah.
• 30:21
  That's fine. During the building of this, I
• 30:23
  just want to mention Robbie Center, God bless you, Ravi
• 30:27
  Center and your whole family and all the rabunim and all the
• 30:29
  Community Board members that helped restart the school in the
• 30:32
  middle of the year. He taught me one thing very,
• 30:34
  very important when I was going around to create a collective
• 30:38
  board and everyone's like, what am I going to do?
• 30:40
  What do you want from me? And Ravi Center said a great,
• 30:43
  great idea. He said do what's in your
• 30:45
  ability to do. Right.
• 30:47
  And it was so smart because then it's like, okay, calm, feeling
• 30:51
  like you're not asking me to do something I can't do, ask me
• 30:53
  something I could do. And we created, thank God.
• 30:56
  And, and we both finished our first week this week, by the
• 30:58
  way, some other stuff too. Yeah.
• 30:59
  This week was the end of the first week of the school.
• 31:01
  Yeah. Kazak.
• 31:02
  Look at you guys taking over the world.
• 31:05
  I had a also a hard week by the way, for the record, I just want
• 31:08
  to say that I, you know, I was in the office the whole week by
• 31:10
  the way, but I worked OK, so. You could say that you get.
• 31:14
  Part of that. But no, I'll be honest, I've
• 31:16
  been following Michael's journey in the last month and it's
• 31:19
  probably going on maybe a little bit longer than that, maybe a
• 31:21
  couple of months, Yeah. But it's been a arduous, it's
• 31:25
  been a rocky road. And you know, public service,
• 31:29
  there's really no gratification in it.
• 31:32
  Everybody just throw stones at you.
• 31:33
  That's. Why there's all these these
• 31:34
  blessings for people who do call me show you with circus every
• 31:38
  minute there's tons of blessings.
• 31:40
  Why? Yeah, because not only they
• 31:42
  don't recognize you, they. They get upset.
• 31:45
  They say it, say it. It's just, you know, today
• 31:49
  Yeshiva, you know, we, we kind of like we, we expect sometimes
• 31:55
  we don't hop that you know, it's, it's it's just boys that
• 31:59
  that they don't see the world. You know, they're just starting
• 32:01
  their life and you know, you give them everything you got.
• 32:05
  You give them, you know, love and you show them, you know,
• 32:08
  that we're here for you and everything.
• 32:09
  And and they would expect like I give you my whole heart.
• 32:13
  Give me a little of your heart. You know, sometimes you see
• 32:15
  somebody like he's just struggling, right?
• 32:18
  But that's that's why they're here because we're here to
• 32:21
  slowly, slowly, you know, untighten this, these tight
• 32:24
  scrolls that they put there to protect themselves.
• 32:27
  So today we finished one week. I finished this year and I'm
• 32:30
  like, OK guys, I want to ask everyone here they should.
• 32:36
  I know there's a lot of complaints and I'm sure there's
• 32:39
  a lot of jokes that you guys want to do and certain things
• 32:42
  that is needed. It's the first week, you know,
• 32:44
  certain things I want to hear from everyone before we start 1
• 32:47
  positive thing that they like about the place and the guy
• 32:53
  first humorously says the first positive thing that I like is
• 32:58
  that something I don't remember it was something like this bulb
• 33:02
  is room is not working. So so I see the guy that's
• 33:06
  sitting beside me, one of the name over here, he's just
• 33:10
  starting to boil and he's like, so you're saying it, you don't
• 33:13
  like this place So so so so so do you think we can change it or
• 33:18
  do you think that you don't belong here?
• 33:19
  I'm like. Make it easy.
• 33:23
  Easy Tiger. He's a tiger, you know, This guy
• 33:26
  is just. It's hard though, because you
• 33:28
  pour your heart and soul into things you put a lot of effort
• 33:30
  in and you don't get that reciprocation.
• 33:33
  And to show that they're grateful, it, it does hurt, you
• 33:36
  know, But that's the beauty and the power of unconditional love,
• 33:40
  right? Parents have that for children.
• 33:41
  They don't expect anything to return.
• 33:42
  They want to do it because they want to give the love, right?
• 33:45
  But I want to go back to Michael for a second because in the last
• 33:47
  two months, he's been pouring his heart and soul into this
• 33:51
  mission, which I actually looked at this as why do you have to be
• 33:55
  the guy to step up and to take charge and to take the entire
• 34:00
  burden on yourself? And there's like 50-60 other
• 34:03
  parents in the school. Where's everybody else?
• 34:05
  Why isn't there a meeting? Why doesn't everybody show up
• 34:08
  and everybody take a chunk of responsibility and let's divvy
• 34:12
  up the responsibilities, right? Let's let's chop up a slice and
• 34:16
  dice what everybody's going to do.
• 34:17
  No, no, no, it was literally. And everybody else was just
• 34:19
  watching passively as he was doing it because they're like,
• 34:22
  oh, look at this guy, he's taking the load for everybody
• 34:24
  else. You know, we'll, we'll be alone
• 34:26
  for the ride. But no one was really
• 34:28
  contributing much. And Michael wasn't deterred by
• 34:31
  that. You really went out and just
• 34:33
  made it happen, got the right people involved.
• 34:35
  But it wasn't just what he did. It was how he did it.
• 34:38
  And I heard feedback from a lot of the people that you've been
• 34:40
  meeting with, how impressed they were with how organized you
• 34:45
  were, how detailed you and how you cared so much about doing it
• 34:49
  and it with the hash Kafa in the right way and not just
• 34:51
  continuing what they had till now, doing it even better.
• 34:55
  You were taking an opportunity, something where it was falling
• 34:58
  apart and not just salvaging it, not just keeping the pieces
• 35:01
  together, but using this time to say, you know what, let's go an
• 35:05
  extra 10 miles an hour and let's go even above and beyond, which
• 35:08
  was amazing. He was accomplishing two birds
• 35:09
  with one stone and the first week is done.
• 35:12
  It's in the books. It's a lot to be part of.
• 35:15
  I'm I'm really, really impressed with what you did, Michael.
• 35:17
  Thank you. You deserve a lot of accolades.
• 35:19
  And you know, Barry, before I started, I had to get permission
• 35:22
  for my, literally for my family, for my business partners, for my
• 35:24
  friends. I said I'm, I'm going away for a
• 35:26
  month. I'm going to be working on this
• 35:27
  20 hours a day. So I called Ushi and I called
• 35:31
  Mushi. And don't forget, you promised
• 35:33
  me 10%, Michael said to them. He did.
• 35:35
  It's not a joke. He promised me 10% of all of the
• 35:38
  Hussim that he got for this entire thing.
• 35:41
  I got 10%. People kept asking me how can
• 35:42
  you do this? You even asked me when you first
• 35:44
  walked in, how are you doing this?
• 35:45
  I said. I have good partners.
• 35:47
  I have people that stand behind me and they understand.
• 35:48
  No, he was called. He was.
• 35:50
  He was coming up to me all bubbly.
• 35:51
  I'm like, don't be bubbly around me.
• 35:53
  I'm exhausted. Yeah, but that's Michael, by the
• 35:57
  way. He could be so, like, stressed
• 36:00
  and have a million things going. He's still smiling.
• 36:02
  He still has positive energy. He could still have a good time
• 36:05
  with him, which is, you know, if I'm in a bad mood, everybody
• 36:07
  around me knows it. Everybody knows it like you
• 36:09
  know. I'd love to thank you, Ishi.
• 36:11
  I love you. I appreciate it.
• 36:12
  And for everyone involved, thank you.
• 36:14
  Kudos to you and Yakov Oros Reverse, the first high school
• 36:18
  that's hanging its hat on the philosophies of reverse, which
• 36:21
  is Torah leading the way and everything else behind you.
• 36:24
  Yes, yes. Wow.
• 36:27
  It's a beautiful thing. And it's, it's honestly, it's
• 36:30
  like it's called Torah. I am Derekharitz.
• 36:32
  And people think that Derekharitz means the way you
• 36:33
  behave, and that's not what it is.
• 36:35
  Derekharitz is a way of life. So therefore, all the teachers
• 36:39
  have to be Jewish. It's part of the process.
• 36:42
  We want to integrate science with Torah.
• 36:44
  We want to integrate math with Torah.
• 36:46
  And teaching these girls that when you get older, you can have
• 36:49
  a path for yourself. And.
• 36:50
  Wow, yeah. Isn't that so much like the
• 36:53
  Hofitzheim schools? Perhaps I, I, yeah, I don't
• 36:56
  know. I, I see.
• 36:57
  I don't know anything about like.
• 36:59
  The modern high in. The sea no wow even even even I
• 37:02
  don't know behind this is like what is happens to be that my
• 37:05
  children grew up my boys learned in a traded image ever which in
• 37:11
  Muncie until today I think is the best not because I'm like
• 37:17
  ass my son's crater and so on. I just they they were always
• 37:21
  open and they're very open to just to to make sure that they
• 37:25
  give the best for the children versus most Moises and
• 37:31
  everything has its flaws. But I'm saying for me, it was
• 37:34
  this, this was the best being that I'm also that type of
• 37:37
  person who is, you know, evolving and growing and open
• 37:41
  for I'm not looking to lock myself into when it comes to to
• 37:45
  Yiddish guide. I'm not looking to be, I only
• 37:48
  want to go on this path in Yiddish guide.
• 37:49
  And there's a lot of path I like to integrate and to enhance and
• 37:54
  to add, I think. And and so over there, I was a
• 37:58
  little involved, like, you know, whenever there was like
• 38:02
  problematic issues, things started collapse to collapse.
• 38:08
  I always, you know, jumped in and was one of the people who
• 38:12
  tried to make sure that it it it survives and it thrives
• 38:15
  eventually. And over there.
• 38:18
  So I was a little aware of, you know, that I remember they went
• 38:21
  to Rayetti to Rayetti for training, which is not something
• 38:25
  that most solution misers would do.
• 38:27
  They wouldn't go to a particular guy that has a method of how to
• 38:31
  deal with evidence so on. They would follow a certain I
• 38:36
  don't know how it works because I don't know there, but there's
• 38:38
  a certain traditional and so on. But it doesn't go with a method.
• 38:42
  I think today it's more in that teachers and Milan go for
• 38:46
  training and so on. But but, but, but but but my
• 38:49
  kids when they were young, it wasn't a thing.
• 38:53
  So I would love to hear. I don't know.
• 38:55
  It doesn't have to be on the path because, but I would love
• 38:57
  to hear more about the treasure for all this, because I remember
• 39:00
  there's there's one vote that I that that always bug late me.
• 39:05
  There was always that, you know, really.
• 39:08
  Resonated. He always resonated that the
• 39:10
  reason why Asaph grew up to be what he was was because it could
• 39:16
  sound a little controversial like that.
• 39:19
  The reason was because Yitzhak put him in the same school of
• 39:24
  Yaakov. Like if Yitzhak would have,
• 39:27
  although we see a little differently, but this is what
• 39:29
  transfer for Hersh says that if Yitzhak would have that gave him
• 39:33
  that outlet and avoid it's a shame where his training or his
• 39:39
  growth would be designed something for him in particular,
• 39:43
  then he wouldn't always look, Oh look, my brother is making it.
• 39:46
  I'm not, you know, he would feel like there would be like.
• 39:50
  But we do see that Yaakov wanted to bless Asaph, so he told him
• 39:56
  to go and hunt, which was his thing, which which means he did.
• 40:03
  Support him, support his. Thing and make him feel good
• 40:05
  about it and therefore reward him for it.
• 40:08
  So but but this is definitely an idea that I'll be darker.
• 40:13
  You know when when you want to help a child, you have to be
• 40:17
  sensitive to his, you know, to his capabilities and to see you
• 40:23
  know not to put them in a you know, in a certain, in a.
• 40:26
  Box, it's all subjective. You got to customize to what
• 40:28
  they need, to what your child needs.
• 40:30
  Yeah, well, I just, I don't want to hijack this.
• 40:32
  I want to learn a lot more. No, I really want to get to like
• 40:35
  Barry Weber and to like the fun and cool parts about you.
• 40:38
  But before I do that, I do want to give one shout out, Michael,
• 40:41
  because, you know, we're talking about this partnership.
• 40:44
  You know, you're out there and helping the world.
• 40:46
  I want to give a shout out to a certain individual, if I may go
• 40:49
  for it. One of our clients, US Health,
• 40:51
  I'm going to announce it, okay. And the purchase director is
• 40:54
  Usher Mandelbaum. And he's a young kid.
• 40:55
  This is his first purchasing job and I'm helping him through and
• 41:00
  I'm trying to, you know, to guide him and support him, you
• 41:02
  know, in his in his mission. And he has wonderful bosses.
• 41:06
  Like the owners of this group are really great people, big
• 41:09
  fans of, you know, how they operate and what they're doing.
• 41:12
  But you could tell that he is just motivated and invested and
• 41:17
  not just learning, but learning in the right way.
• 41:19
  And he's always asking the right questions and he's always just
• 41:22
  interested in how do we increase the quality?
• 41:24
  How do we really do it in a way that it's not just about saving
• 41:27
  money, but I'm doing things in a professional manner that's going
• 41:31
  to have a good outcome for the organization, for the buildings,
• 41:34
  for the patients. And it's giving me a little bit
• 41:37
  of his look. So shout out to Usher.
• 41:39
  Just want you to know that you know, you're giving an old man a
• 41:42
  little bit of hiss again. So really appreciate you.
• 41:45
  All right, we're back. Let's go back to the program.
• 41:47
  I think the concept that you're saying that is meaningful to me
• 41:50
  and what we learned through the podcasts of meeting people and
• 41:53
  talking is intentional. And that's what that's what
• 41:56
  resonates with what you're saying is doing things with
• 41:58
  intention and knowing that this is what you're doing.
• 42:00
  This is the point. And another thing I learned
• 42:02
  along the way of being a board member and starting things is we
• 42:06
  have opinions. We don't have agendas.
• 42:09
  It's so important because and, and everyone who joined the
• 42:12
  board, I said the same thing. You can have opinions, but you
• 42:14
  can have agendas. What, where we're heading is
• 42:17
  Rosham Shinofaro Hershakafa. Who's going to guide that?
• 42:19
  The rabbinical board that was created and we're here to
• 42:22
  support them. So that system, thank God, is
• 42:24
  going really, really well. Beautiful.
• 42:27
  Yeah. I'd love to know before.
• 42:28
  I'm sorry. We're going to stay spiritual in
• 42:29
  another 2 minutes if you don't mind.
• 42:33
  With me, you're going to be spiritual forever.
• 42:35
  Sorry. Thank you.
• 42:36
  I appreciate that. I.
• 42:36
  Didn't know the side of you. I was not.
• 42:38
  I was not aware that this is your MO.
• 42:40
  This is I'm a spiritual junkie. I enjoy it.
• 42:43
  It's just like it makes sense to me.
• 42:44
  Other than that, it doesn't make sense.
• 42:47
  So you mentioned something. You mentioned Rich Meyer.
• 42:50
  Rich Meyer. This is a name I've heard so
• 42:52
  many times already in the past by.
• 42:54
  The way I'm sorry, yeah, some people have the wrong idea of
• 42:58
  being spirit. People relate spiritual, being
• 43:02
  spiritual with being airless or being Jewish or being.
• 43:06
  I think spiritual is versus tangible.
• 43:11
  You know, it's it's it's you're creative, you're spiritual
• 43:16
  versus, you know, being a nine to five job, which is not
• 43:20
  spiritual, right. In that sense, spiritual means
• 43:24
  like everything is a lesson. It it's it's a, it's a way of
• 43:28
  thinking. It's not necessarily Yiddish
• 43:32
  versus goyish. You know what I'm saying?
• 43:35
  We'd say this. Yeah.
• 43:35
  OK. I think I understand what you're
• 43:37
  saying. Yeah, like, like a goy is
• 43:38
  spiritual. Like if, if, if they're singing,
• 43:42
  Singing is being spiritual. You're creative.
• 43:45
  So connecting to the universe. Emotions is spiritual.
• 43:48
  Connecting to nature. Things like that.
• 43:50
  Can you correct them or, or or just clarify for a second?
• 43:53
  How are you spiritual throughout your day?
• 43:54
  Give us examples what is like? I I like what you're saying.
• 43:57
  Well, well, my brain works in a creative way.
• 44:00
  Meaning to say that when you tell me something, I hear those
• 44:04
  words, but I don't stop there. I'm like, why is he saying that?
• 44:10
  What does he really mean? Not because I'm paranoid, just
• 44:14
  because I'm creative. I, I, I take these words and I,
• 44:17
  I make a piece of art of it. I entered, I go into the depth
• 44:22
  of it. I look at the colours of it.
• 44:26
  I'm artist. I, I have a very hard time
• 44:31
  paying my bills because it's very physical to me.
• 44:35
  It's like being realistic. My, my being realistic is only
• 44:39
  for me that because I have to survive in a realistic world.
• 44:42
  But really, I'm in the art of it, OK, when I come in here, I,
• 44:47
  I see the production here. I, I don't know how to explain
• 44:52
  it, but it's artistic way of thinking.
• 44:55
  So although I mean, a lot of times I have to be very down to
• 44:59
  earth and show up at certain places at certain times and to
• 45:05
  hear the customer for what he says or for what he and she says
• 45:09
  or to be a little down to earth. But a lot of times I rely on my
• 45:15
  spirit on my, on my trip, on my on my 6th sense, my 6th sense.
• 45:21
  I'll explain it to you as as we go on like.
• 45:24
  No, I think that's not what you're saying you like you try
• 45:26
  to remove yourself from the materialistic equation, no?
• 45:30
  I'm not, I'm just. I am removed by default.
• 45:32
  By OK, that's right, that's what I mean.
• 45:34
  You are removing yourself from that and you're seeing how do
• 45:37
  the growth aspects of things right.
• 45:39
  You're seeing what to take from it, what to learn from it.
• 45:40
  I. See it in a little deeper
• 45:42
  creative of way. I don't know how to define it.
• 45:45
  I I call it being spiritual mean to say the spiritual world makes
• 45:48
  to me more sense than the non. Spiritual world.
• 45:52
  So if I gave you a choice to sing at a wedding tomorrow night
• 45:54
  where it's a very meaningful wedding and it's going to be a
• 45:58
  lot of people and emotional wedding, you know, because
• 46:00
  there's a story behind it. The two people that are getting
• 46:02
  married, you know, and they're paying you $3000 versus a
• 46:05
  wedding that is just a high end lavish wedding.
• 46:08
  A bunch of snobs are going to be there, a bunch of elite people,
• 46:11
  they're paying you 30 grand. Are you saying that you would
• 46:13
  rather sing at that $3000 I? Would rather but I can't make
• 46:18
  these decisions based on my emotions because of like that I
• 46:20
  would lose my family in a second I would.
• 46:23
  Understand your obligations. So there is a line in the sand
• 46:26
  where your spirituality takes a back seat.
• 46:29
  I have to use my brain to be realistic to reality and I have
• 46:32
  to pay my bills. I have to take care of my my
• 46:35
  values. I have to support my people that
• 46:37
  I care for. So I want to make that.
• 46:39
  Really, I would if, if, if, if my, if somebody would take care
• 46:43
  of my financials in my world, I would 100% choose I, I would
• 46:47
  rather want to sing every night and not every night because it's
• 46:51
  not possible. But I would rather, you know, a
• 46:54
  lot of times it happens. People are like, can you give me
• 46:57
  a discount? Technically, I don't care.
• 47:00
  I don't even like when I make with $2000 less $3000.
• 47:04
  It does not touch me in a second.
• 47:05
  It's just that I don't people take advantage, right?
• 47:09
  I don't want to. I don't want to lose my pants.
• 47:11
  I don't know about you. Deal with that directly.
• 47:13
  People call you. No, no, no.
• 47:14
  So see, therefore I have somebody who runs you.
• 47:16
  Have an agent who does that. Have agent does that because I I
• 47:20
  I really don't like I do not feel comfortable after waiting
• 47:25
  to go over to a Hutton and talk to him about dollars.
• 47:29
  It takes me out of the zone. I was just here.
• 47:32
  I created a vibe of happiness. I created a relationship for me,
• 47:36
  this is like blocking the relationship for me.
• 47:39
  This is like, yeah, that what I'm saying.
• 47:41
  Yeah, yeah. So it's a very important.
• 47:43
  So when I'm talking spiritual, I'm talking about that sentence.
• 47:45
  Yeah, yeah, that makes. We're about to go back to you.
• 47:47
  So you said Rabbit Shamira. I'm going back to that because
• 47:49
  I've heard his name many times and I have a lot of friends that
• 47:51
  are big fans. Can you just tell me a little
• 47:53
  bit about who he is? Wow, I'll tell you what I think
• 48:01
  of him too much in order for me to have the hotspot to describe
• 48:06
  him, but I'll tell you something that you would like to hear
• 48:09
  probably. So he was just a random kid that
• 48:15
  grew up in a random family, which means that he doesn't have
• 48:18
  any rabbinical DNA in his blood. His father used to be a diamond.
• 48:25
  He had a lot of money then like like at some point he lost all
• 48:29
  his money. But when he grew up, he grew up
• 48:34
  in a rich house. And he once said that that the
• 48:39
  way he he thought himself how to guard his eyes.
• 48:46
  By the way, I just heard last week someone told me he's close
• 48:49
  with, I guess, you know, with someone who I mean, just like
• 48:55
  you said, you didn't have everybody time.
• 48:56
  So there was this this iconic guy who said that.
• 48:59
  I never knew that guarding the eyes is is a thing.
• 49:05
  And it's today they have these this organization of what's it
• 49:09
  called? They had to put out these
• 49:10
  videos. And I am something.
• 49:12
  Something that you mine are. You mine.
• 49:14
  And he's like, wow, see, I never know.
• 49:16
  That's the thing, you know. But I guess in their school it
• 49:19
  wasn't a thing to teach like A to guard eyes.
• 49:21
  But anyways, which might have said that the way he thought
• 49:25
  himself of how to guard his eyes was because his father had
• 49:29
  mirrors in his house. Mirrors is like a modern thing,
• 49:33
  like a citizen house wouldn't look in the mirror.
• 49:36
  There's this thing that says if you look in the mirror, it wakes
• 49:39
  up your your evil inclination. You're yet so hotter.
• 49:44
  That's the thing where I can see them.
• 49:45
  But but by so he would, he was a little child and he would go
• 49:49
  around his house and not look like he was guarding his eyes.
• 49:53
  So he had this niche, this, this thing in his brain when he was a
• 49:56
  young child, just to be extreme in a way, which led him to be
• 50:01
  where he was, where he is right now.
• 50:02
  He's mean to say he's a he was a kid.
• 50:06
  I grew up with a nice haircut. Like he didn't have like these
• 50:10
  pies that I have, you know, and it wasn't the ultra from
• 50:16
  Hassedesha type of house. It was more of like a open
• 50:19
  minded modern house, but he pushed himself, pushed, pushed,
• 50:22
  pushed, pushed himself until today he's pushing.
• 50:26
  Himself, I know he's a major inspiration for a lot of people.
• 50:28
  And he's amazed. He's a Sally.
• 50:29
  He's just a Sally. He's someone who's someone who's
• 50:32
  bottled to the he's bottled to the universe.
• 50:34
  Like you can just step on him and like he's not like that
• 50:37
  coverage maker is like this was my suit.
• 50:40
  Don't like he would give aways. I have many friends that when
• 50:43
  they were Bacharam and Yeshiva in Israel and they would go over
• 50:47
  to his house just and they say, I don't know whether he would,
• 50:49
  he would cook them a omelette. He would make them an omelette.
• 50:52
  And there's two things he knew how to do, omelette and pizza.
• 50:56
  Like he would make them a pizza. And I'm like very humble guy,
• 50:58
  you know, and but he's a Saudi. He's a Saudi so.
• 51:01
  Right now he's a he's a Rav and he has a shul.
• 51:03
  Like is that at the makeup? Of he, he used to, he used to be
• 51:10
  just in a coiled part of my cabala.
• 51:12
  He was always infatuated with Cabala, OK, when even when it
• 51:16
  was a bocher. And Kabbalah, I don't know most
• 51:20
  communities, but in communities where we grew up, Kabbalah was
• 51:23
  taboo. It's like it's not meant for
• 51:24
  only for someone who is already four years old or something,
• 51:27
  whatever. And Bresliff and Kabbalah, both
• 51:30
  of them were to look down upon. Oh, he's breast like like he's
• 51:35
  tripping, especially in the places where he grew up, which
• 51:40
  was Europe more like everything is like very formal and polished
• 51:43
  and like no craziness, you know. And but he was always infatuated
• 51:50
  with these Sid Durham that have all these Shamus Siddarari and
• 51:55
  Siddarama Rashash and until today he dams in that
• 51:57
  Dilsiddarian. But Peshwas Kareva always would
• 52:03
  say that people would come and complain, these Bochers going
• 52:06
  around with the shameless thing, and it's not appropriate.
• 52:09
  You say like allow him, he's allowed to you.
• 52:12
  Know wow, wow. But he was always very into it.
• 52:15
  He pushed himself. He's just a guy.
• 52:16
  He's a tally. What is a tally?
• 52:18
  Chevy? People tell you become italic is
• 52:20
  someone who is not afraid to fall, somebody who is just
• 52:26
  focused in the business, who is who is the biggest guy?
• 52:30
  Somebody who is not afraid of challenges.
• 52:32
  Somebody who just breaks through every challenge and just drives
• 52:35
  on 100 miles an hour and does not look back.
• 52:38
  It just goes forward and avoids the gym.
• 52:40
  This is what he does. He's just pushing and pushing
• 52:42
  and pushing and pushing and he's not pushing anybody the same
• 52:46
  time he allows, you know these people who we call second class
• 52:50
  or people who who are usually not looked up upon.
• 52:54
  He encourages that and he's my achievement.
• 52:56
  He's just pushing and pushing and pushing.
• 52:59
  I wanted to go Hanukkah and I wanted to go in Oman.
• 53:04
  I wasn't there this year. Rosh Hashanah wanted to go there
• 53:06
  for this Hanukkah. He went there.
• 53:08
  So I called him up like, am I invited?
• 53:13
  Can I come? He's like, do you Shiva open
• 53:15
  yet? I'm like, no, but we're like
• 53:17
  almost, almost there. He's like, I'll have your mind
• 53:20
  open your Shiva. I got you.
• 53:23
  Like whatever you think of doing there, I'll I'll, you know, I'll
• 53:27
  do that. And he was just pushing me and
• 53:29
  pushing and pushing me. For for those listening, the
• 53:32
  Shiva that you have is meant for who?
• 53:34
  These are meant for boys that technically can't are being
• 53:39
  thrown out or had to leave the issue because they didn't feel
• 53:43
  that they get them or it's very hard to like categorize such a
• 53:48
  type of boys. Boys who didn't make it in
• 53:50
  mainstream yeshivas and they're currently on the street without
• 53:54
  a yeshiva and they still would like to be in a yeshiva
• 53:58
  environment. A lot of boys are burnt out and
• 54:00
  they're like not going to go into fail again and they don't
• 54:04
  even give it a chance. And as I understand it, these
• 54:06
  are kids from all over the world.
• 54:07
  These are these are kids from everywhere.
• 54:09
  Everywhere. The more I'll see the show
• 54:10
  backgrounds though. Yeah, this, this is what I
• 54:12
  could, yeah, you know, like facilitate.
• 54:14
  I could facilitate it. That's.
• 54:15
  What he relates to that's. What I relate to and that's what
• 54:18
  I feel I could. So somebody wants to find out
• 54:20
  more or get involved or support it.
• 54:22
  What do they do? Who would they?
• 54:23
  Reach out to me. Reach out to.
• 54:25
  You, I mean, this can be the first type of school like this.
• 54:28
  I mean, you're talking about for in the Hasidic environment,
• 54:31
  right? That culture for the boys that
• 54:33
  didn't fit the mold and didn't do well in the system.
• 54:36
  And now they're sort of out of options.
• 54:38
  They go to a school like this, right, to try to rebuild them
• 54:41
  and try to reshape them, right, to stay the course, but in a
• 54:44
  sort of a different style, right?
• 54:46
  This is the first time such a thing existed.
• 54:48
  There can't be, I imagine. That there's a lot of school
• 54:50
  like the uniqueness of what I, of what I provide.
• 54:53
  Absolutely. Show me.
• 54:55
  OK, there's Schmo Brazil, right? You've heard of Schmo, Brazil.
• 55:00
  I've heard of him, but I don't know much about yeah.
• 55:02
  But he's a singer technically that has yeshiva, but he's not a
• 55:07
  singer as yeshiva. He's yeshiva that is also a
• 55:09
  singer. Being that Yoshihiva is cool.
• 55:13
  Yoshihiva is not somebody who's a very hush of a guy that they
• 55:17
  don't feel threatened of. That's that's, that's very
• 55:21
  unique. Got it.
• 55:22
  So what you're doing is a little bit of a spin here.
• 55:25
  It's not so much this concept that's new, it's this model with
• 55:29
  you at the helm of it that is that secret sauce, right?
• 55:32
  That's different. Right right away it makes them
• 55:35
  feel calmer and the staff that I have are not people who have
• 55:40
  certain agendas of all this is how the school should run.
• 55:43
  They're just people with good hearts.
• 55:46
  They're just want to adopt, to make, to create an environment.
• 55:50
  Got it. This is also again now
• 55:52
  understand, I don't want to be like, oh, I figured it out and I
• 55:55
  got the best thing and a lot. The point is that of course, I'm
• 55:58
  sure there is out there something similar to this, but
• 56:03
  it's not something that is There's a lot of it.
• 56:06
  I know there's I know there's the Shiva's in Israel similar to
• 56:12
  this. I know that there's in Lakewood
• 56:17
  similar to this, like Eaton town and there is left right over
• 56:21
  here. But again, every, everybody
• 56:23
  caters to a different type of like I, I wouldn't recommend
• 56:28
  someone who's struggling with Chavez to be in the same yeshiva
• 56:31
  environment of someone who who doesn't struggle with Chavez.
• 56:35
  And I don't recommend someone who struggles with his social
• 56:40
  issues, but someone who doesn't struggle with delicious.
• 56:44
  So that's what people don't realize.
• 56:46
  It's important to create an environment for all types of so
• 56:51
  so not like that. I'm the only guy who outside of
• 56:54
  the regular system. There there are, there are there
• 56:57
  are the Shivas who are created for ADD for kids with ADD.
• 57:03
  There are, there are yeshivas who, who are created for kids
• 57:06
  who are totally like throwing away their religion.
• 57:11
  Like they don't they, they, they don't keep Shabbos and they,
• 57:16
  they don't put fill in and you know, it's amazing.
• 57:19
  And when I technically open it, it was just a group of boys who
• 57:24
  didn't have they didn't, they didn't have each Eva.
• 57:27
  And so I technically opened and created a system around their,
• 57:32
  their struggles, their, you know, that group.
• 57:34
  And then as time was going on, as new boys came to me without
• 57:38
  knowing what this is and you know, their struggles shifted in
• 57:43
  a different direction. I changed the vibe and the staff
• 57:45
  according to their that I don't think there is, I don't think
• 57:49
  there is a chameleon and Ashish Shiva who is OK and willing to
• 57:55
  shift shape and colours. According to now me, I'm also
• 58:01
  human and I can also handle what I can handle.
• 58:04
  As I said, I can only cater to the city boys because I don't
• 58:08
  connect to the culture of that because I wasn't brought up that
• 58:10
  way. So I don't know exactly, you
• 58:13
  know, how did it handle that? Yeah, so I'm, I'm also not a a
• 58:17
  total chameleon, right. But in my in my citizen
• 58:20
  community, there isn't something that.
• 58:24
  What a nice, what a nice thing. So nice.
• 58:26
  I mean, you're singing, bringing smiles on people's faces.
• 58:29
  Then as if that's not enough, you're also shaping the future
• 58:34
  for these young boys that are lost and need some direction.
• 58:38
  And you do get in a way that's palatable for them in a way that
• 58:41
  they could find joy in it, right?
• 58:43
  And you're showing them, look, take me as an example.
• 58:45
  I'm just like, you guys went to the same system as you, the same
• 58:48
  upbringing as you. And look, I turned out pretty OK
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  and I'm and I'm happy. And there's a way to have life
• 58:53
  and still be functional in society.
• 58:55
  You don't have to change. You don't have to become
• 58:58
  something else. You can still be you and you
• 59:00
  could still have a wonderful life that has so much to offer,
• 59:04
  right? That's sort of what you're
• 59:04
  showing them by example, which which is amazing.
• 59:07
  So, so it's, I'm not technically telling them that, but
• 59:10
  subconsciously that's this is what they're feeling, right?
• 59:13
  It's like, you know, this is something that I can look up to.
• 59:16
  Yeah. This doesn't bring me any trauma
• 59:19
  and issues. Like I don't relate my failures
• 59:21
  with this type of behavior. So let me try to look into this
• 59:25
  option. And that's that's where they
• 59:27
  feel encouraged. Yeah.
• 59:29
  So just for, just just to understand, like, so let's say I
• 59:31
  sat down with the boys, we started learning a particular
• 59:34
  thing that I, I felt that I'm, I'm good at to be able to give
• 59:38
  it over to them. And let's say it was Gamar and I
• 59:42
  started learning and I see that well, like I'm pushing a wall,
• 59:45
  like it's not working. Then at some point I'm like, who
• 59:49
  from who from this group does not know how to read Hebrew and
• 59:58
  75% of these boys are raising their hands.
• 1:00:01
  How's that possible? What does that mean?
• 1:00:02
  They failed. They grew.
• 1:00:03
  Up in regular firm homes you. Wonder why they failed Because
• 1:00:06
  they did not get the proper. What do you mean they're not
• 1:00:09
  failing? That's just completely missing
• 1:00:11
  the boat. Are you telling me that they
• 1:00:12
  never learned as an 8 year old, as a 10 year old how to read?
• 1:00:17
  Yes. So what I did is, guys, Gamora
• 1:00:22
  closed, we're starting a new program next week, and I right
• 1:00:25
  away have to call professionals. Call Robert Ready.
• 1:00:28
  Exactly. I would think you would know
• 1:00:30
  this beforehand. Like, how did you discover this
• 1:00:33
  right then when you were starting to look at them and
• 1:00:35
  you're like, wait a second, they can't even read.
• 1:00:36
  I cannot, I cannot take in this voice, sending them this strict
• 1:00:41
  contract that most first of all you.
• 1:00:44
  Take anybody so you're not really.
• 1:00:45
  Why would I point out right away, before I meet them, their
• 1:00:48
  issues and their struggles? Why?
• 1:00:49
  Would that issues I'm sorry to discover or to do like an
• 1:00:51
  assessment of where they are, where they're holding like you
• 1:00:54
  know what this board will. Be doing an assessment if I'm
• 1:00:56
  anyways going to deal with it. Right.
• 1:00:58
  You say you're taking anybody you're doing it all, but I'm
• 1:01:00
  surprised that 75% of them couldn't even read that shows
• 1:01:03
  that this is a rampant issue that could be happening because
• 1:01:06
  this is not yes, it wasn't one boy or two boys that rate 75% of
• 1:01:10
  them just couldn't read that's insane, right?
• 1:01:12
  And by the way, if he wasn't doing what he's doing and making
• 1:01:15
  this platform available and creating this environment,
• 1:01:17
  they'd be on the streets at a certain point during God knows
• 1:01:20
  why they. Were on the streets.
• 1:01:21
  Everybody from my yeshiva was on the streets.
• 1:01:24
  Unbelievable. It's really, really.
• 1:01:25
  Everybody. I had certain boys who were just
• 1:01:28
  shoved in into certain yeshivas that it was called yeshivas, but
• 1:01:32
  it was just people that tried to care and it just neglected them.
• 1:01:37
  They were fit and they were like, you know, I've, I've done
• 1:01:40
  the worst. I've, I've been exposed to
• 1:01:43
  everything that a 16 year old boy shouldn't be exposed to.
• 1:01:47
  But I came from that place and that's where I do not want to
• 1:01:51
  go. Like, I will give me a chance.
• 1:01:54
  Yeah. And I'm like, great.
• 1:01:55
  Amazing. Let's do this.
• 1:01:57
  Yeah, very well, that's something right on this topic,
• 1:01:58
  because I have noticed as we're this podcast, developing your
• 1:02:02
  mind really works very quickly and you keep getting distracted.
• 1:02:06
  Like you'll talk about one topic and then you'll talk, you'll
• 1:02:09
  bring in a a story. Just remember that another one
• 1:02:12
  and another one like you can go on for for a long time.
• 1:02:14
  It's fantastic. Like, you have so much
• 1:02:16
  information that's stored up in your brain, right?
• 1:02:18
  So I I have that issue and but somehow Seattle this mind when I
• 1:02:22
  give it when I I talk to the boys and I just go from topic to
• 1:02:25
  topic to topic to topic, somehow my manal always tells me
• 1:02:30
  somebody always managed to tie everything up.
• 1:02:32
  You circle back. But that, that's a talent that
• 1:02:34
  Hashem gave me as an artist, which I, you know, everything,
• 1:02:38
  obviously, you know, that's the reason why I went from this
• 1:02:40
  topic to this topic. So as an artist, I see it as a
• 1:02:42
  picture. So everything is like
• 1:02:44
  intertwined. Like it's like a picture.
• 1:02:46
  It's like. Yeah, and I've seen it here.
• 1:02:48
  I've seen how you've got, you've veered off a few times, but you
• 1:02:51
  always come right back to it and you tie it all in, which is, you
• 1:02:54
  know, very interesting. Thank you.
• 1:02:55
  So you create, you clearly have that creative mind.
• 1:02:59
  You're obviously someone who thinks differently and you've
• 1:03:02
  done things a cut above what just the mainstream Jewish
• 1:03:06
  person growing up. Like, by the way, we grew up
• 1:03:08
  similar to you. We didn't go see this, right?
• 1:03:10
  But at the end of the day, we all grew up from, and I think
• 1:03:12
  there's a lot of similarities in that, right?
• 1:03:14
  And very few people can say that they've sang in front of
• 1:03:19
  hundreds of thousands of people. They've put out records.
• 1:03:23
  Their face is, you know, plastered around town.
• 1:03:26
  You're known all over the place. I'd be very surprised if you
• 1:03:28
  walked into a room full of people and 80% of them didn't
• 1:03:31
  know who you are. So, you know, that's got to
• 1:03:33
  carry a lot of weight for you. That's that can't be easy.
• 1:03:36
  It's fun, but it's fun for the first, you know, 5-10 minutes.
• 1:03:38
  Eventually it becomes a drag. It becomes a burden to have to
• 1:03:42
  deal with that type of consequence, you know?
• 1:03:44
  So do you enjoy that? Do you like this part?
• 1:03:47
  Do you hate it? You're somewhere in the middle.
• 1:03:49
  How do you deal with it? I hate.
• 1:03:51
  It you hate it, hate it, everything about it, there isn't
• 1:03:55
  any part of it that you like because you do seem like a very
• 1:04:01
  subtle more, you know, to the softer, quieter side.
• 1:04:04
  So you know, for me, I would love, I love the limelight.
• 1:04:07
  I mean, I put me on an island with nature and I'll, I'll, I'll
• 1:04:13
  be in heaven. That's crazy.
• 1:04:15
  That's just crazy that you are that kind of personality, yet
• 1:04:19
  everything that you're doing is a total confliction to that you
• 1:04:23
  are. You are not by any means, you
• 1:04:24
  know, behind the scenes. You want to hear something crazy
• 1:04:27
  When I'm on the stage on a Hess concert or in front of thousands
• 1:04:32
  of people and I sing, I am on my island.
• 1:04:38
  So you don't get nervous. I know.
• 1:04:40
  You're totally zoned out, you're checked out, you're like in your
• 1:04:42
  own world. Like in my own world.
• 1:04:45
  That's a nice ability to be able to do that.
• 1:04:47
  That's got to be a certain trick to it, like an art form to be
• 1:04:50
  able to do that. Most people get sucked into the,
• 1:04:51
  you know, to the moment and they get caught up what's going on.
• 1:04:55
  They get all nervous. And it's not as meaningful for
• 1:04:57
  you. Let's go to where Oshi wanted to
• 1:04:59
  go before. So first of all, what's the
• 1:05:00
  biggest crowd you've ever sang to?
• 1:05:03
  So anything that has to do with memorizing stuff that happened
• 1:05:06
  in the past, you're not going to get a very accurate answer.
• 1:05:09
  It's OK, I'm going to think what's the biggest crowd that I
• 1:05:12
  said? Approximately, you know, a live
• 1:05:14
  crowd. A live crowd.
• 1:05:16
  Biggest crowd. Above 10,000 let.
• 1:05:19
  Me think uman is not 10,000. Hask.
• 1:05:24
  Hask is not 10,000. A few 1000, right?
• 1:05:26
  Yeah, and Israel, I've done, I've done concerts in Israel.
• 1:05:30
  The word 10,000 people. Well.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah. Was it just you or was it a
• 1:05:34
  group of people? No, it wasn't a solo solo Barry
• 1:05:37
  concert. Have you ever done those?
• 1:05:38
  I, I, I did it maybe twice. Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  Like a just a Barry concert. What kind of singer do you
• 1:05:43
  consider yourself? Are you like a soul singer?
• 1:05:47
  Do you consider yourself to be a jazz, Blues, folksy pop?
• 1:05:53
  Like what do you do a little bit of?
• 1:05:54
  Everything being, you know, the environment that I grew up, you
• 1:05:58
  know, all these names that you just mentioned is something that
• 1:06:01
  was totally not in my conscious or in my education and the only
• 1:06:07
  way I would find out is by like listening to non Jewish music or
• 1:06:11
  to educate myself. Do you even know what genre is I
• 1:06:14
  was just talking about? I by now I know by.
• 1:06:16
  Now you must know. I've bumped into, you know, here
• 1:06:18
  and there. This is your industry, right?
• 1:06:21
  You got to have the jargon. So, so, but it's not in my
• 1:06:24
  blood, right? So if I would have to say, you
• 1:06:28
  know what my soul is like, what type of I would say soul, soul?
• 1:06:33
  OK. Yeah, OK.
• 1:06:36
  But, but necessarily, you know what I have to do in order to
• 1:06:42
  get my dough, you know? You do what it takes, you sing
• 1:06:46
  anything, anything. Any non Jewish singers that you
• 1:06:51
  sort of resonate with, connect to you feel like that's sort of
• 1:06:54
  your style, your vibe? Do you listen to non Jewish
• 1:06:57
  music? Though I don't officially,
• 1:07:01
  although I can't say that I never listened to, you know, to,
• 1:07:04
  you know, because I was, you know, introduced to it and so
• 1:07:08
  on. But.
• 1:07:10
  It's for research and development purposes.
• 1:07:11
  No, no, not even that. I like mean to say like I never
• 1:07:15
  had a like a song list of non Jewish music.
• 1:07:17
  Yeah, but like, remember when I when I was in Shiva Mir, there
• 1:07:22
  was one guy who was into a certain artist called Eminem.
• 1:07:27
  I'm so shady. OK, So he would listen to that.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah. And I, you know, I wasn't going
• 1:07:32
  to be that annoying guy who turn it off because I was, you know,
• 1:07:36
  I was open minded. So Eminem was in.
• 1:07:39
  So that's like hip hop, that's rap, you know?
• 1:07:41
  But, but did I ever get into rap?
• 1:07:45
  No. Not rap.
• 1:07:46
  Is there somebody you appreciate like a Billy Joel?
• 1:07:48
  An Elvis Presley. Jackson was.
• 1:07:50
  Michael Jackson. You know, I think Michael
• 1:07:52
  Jackson is beyond OK genius. Think.
• 1:07:56
  What's his name? The Rasta guy.
• 1:07:59
  The what guy? Prep prep.
• 1:08:00
  What's his name? Sing it.
• 1:08:05
  No woman, no crap. Bob Marley.
• 1:08:08
  Bob Marley. Bob Marley, OK, he was a big
• 1:08:10
  child. There you go.
• 1:08:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:12
  He had a lot of soul. OK, Yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:08:14
  Yeah. I think he's Exali, Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  I don't know. Never listened to Billy Joel.
• 1:08:22
  I never listened to The Beatles. Never find like interest in
• 1:08:26
  that. So everything you come up with
• 1:08:29
  is entirely your own, deep from within your soul.
• 1:08:31
  And you don't take any inspirations from anyone else.
• 1:08:34
  Or you have your own lane, you have your own.
• 1:08:37
  You do your own thing, right? Yeah, OK.
• 1:08:40
  I'm very curious about this because I really think that this
• 1:08:42
  is something that's lacking in the Jewish arena.
• 1:08:46
  I do think that it's getting a little bit like the Thank You
• 1:08:49
  Hashem movement, right? With the types of songs that
• 1:08:51
  they put out. I think that they're sort of
• 1:08:53
  finding a little niche that's a little bit more modernized and
• 1:08:56
  compelling for the younger generation.
• 1:08:59
  And I love the fact that my kid, he's 8 year olds, he loves Thank
• 1:09:03
  You Hashem. And he loves their songs like he
• 1:09:04
  loves, He loves also like zusha. He loves zusha.
• 1:09:09
  I love zusha, by the way. I'm, I'm obsessed with zusha.
• 1:09:12
  I love their songs. I think that it adds a whole new
• 1:09:15
  type of flavor that we didn't really have in our music for a
• 1:09:19
  long time. Yeah, it's more just jazz, not
• 1:09:20
  just. I don't know, it's that thing
• 1:09:22
  that was missing. That missing, yeah, but I think
• 1:09:24
  like the EDM concept, right, they bring to that.
• 1:09:26
  Too, But yeah. Also, but they're what I think
• 1:09:29
  we're we're still missing is somewhat of the like you
• 1:09:34
  mentioned earlier that you had a music video that you put out and
• 1:09:36
  that was like so such a taboo thing to do.
• 1:09:38
  That was like so abnormal, right?
• 1:09:41
  But now it's like a very normal thing.
• 1:09:42
  You see every song that people put out, it was with a music.
• 1:09:44
  Video. But not one year.
• 1:09:45
  Nobody. Right, right.
• 1:09:47
  So I think what's what's still missing is sort of that
• 1:09:50
  collection of and I I think I was telling this to Yaakov
• 1:09:55
  Langer when he was on our podcast, his influencers is
• 1:09:58
  people going beyond just the music part is also to let people
• 1:10:02
  into their lives and to make you know, everything about what
• 1:10:06
  they're doing and share it with the public and share it with
• 1:10:09
  right now. It's just that we have singers,
• 1:10:10
  we have, you know, what people have put on plays and every sort
• 1:10:13
  of their role, what you know, their lane, but nobody, it's
• 1:10:16
  just them. Let's follow them, everything
• 1:10:19
  that they're doing and in the greatest world and the non
• 1:10:21
  Jewish role, you have a ton of those people and you know, not
• 1:10:23
  always are they, you know, portraying the best things,
• 1:10:27
  right? So why can't we have someone
• 1:10:29
  who's a cool person, Someone Like You, right, who's very
• 1:10:32
  talented. And I don't just want to see you
• 1:10:34
  sing, I want to see you with the boys that you're mentoring.
• 1:10:38
  I want to see that. I want to see you at home, how
• 1:10:41
  you interacting with your kids. Now, you may not want to share,
• 1:10:43
  that's fine. And maybe not even you, but
• 1:10:45
  somebody who's on the public stage to totally capitalize on
• 1:10:48
  this and to go a step above. I haven't seen that yet.
• 1:10:51
  And I think it's necessary and I think that it would be great for
• 1:10:55
  my son to be able to follow an influencer that's in our
• 1:10:59
  culture, in our circles versus potentially following, I don't
• 1:11:03
  know, God knows who, you know, that's out there on social
• 1:11:05
  media. Why don't we find those people,
• 1:11:07
  replace it for these children so they have somebody to look up to
• 1:11:10
  or somebody to look up to, somebody to follow.
• 1:11:12
  Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 1:11:14
  Are you with me? Yes, so the SO.
• 1:11:17
  Really, he's the wrong guy every.
• 1:11:18
  No, no, he's not the wrong guy. Why is he the wrong guy?
• 1:11:20
  The. Guy to talk about it?
• 1:11:21
  No. No meaning because you're an
• 1:11:22
  introvert, you were saying earlier.
• 1:11:23
  And I have a lot to tell. No, but I want to hear his
• 1:11:25
  theories. I want to hear his ideas.
• 1:11:27
  Being an introvert, it's not that I hate people.
• 1:11:29
  I love socializing. Yeah.
• 1:11:30
  No, no, no. But I'm saying I mean Hammer has
• 1:11:32
  to follow you around. Let me tell you something, me
• 1:11:35
  being introvert me to say that I'm OK being by myself, I could
• 1:11:41
  I could entertain myself, right? Right.
• 1:11:43
  I don't need. The huge talent.
• 1:11:44
  By the I was not running after the center of.
• 1:11:46
  Gasoline is not by getting feedback from people.
• 1:11:50
  I get my own feedback in my brain.
• 1:11:52
  That's what I'm meant to say. I love socializing, I love
• 1:11:54
  characters, I love different people, I love different
• 1:11:57
  cultures. For me, it's very colorful and
• 1:11:59
  entertaining and I love taking it into my world and analyzing
• 1:12:02
  it into my world. It's not like I'm not a people
• 1:12:04
  hater. I'm, I'm fine being by myself.
• 1:12:08
  So then I don't need to be in the public.
• 1:12:10
  That's that's one thing. But we were saying, what I
• 1:12:14
  wanted to say is that the good thing about evolution and time
• 1:12:18
  is that everything that you just thought about or everything that
• 1:12:21
  you're fantasizing or hoping or dreaming is going to happen one
• 1:12:24
  day. Because if not, it wouldn't
• 1:12:27
  enter your brain, right? And, and, and because it entered
• 1:12:31
  your brain and you're speaking about it, somebody's going to
• 1:12:34
  hear about it and it's going to attract something that that
• 1:12:37
  should happen eventually. This is what I believe.
• 1:12:39
  But the fact is the in the Jewish culture, especially in
• 1:12:45
  the Dati culture, the focus, the, the, the focus of, you
• 1:12:51
  know, the, the, the people that we look up to is based torridic.
• 1:12:56
  It's based. We are one nation.
• 1:12:59
  We are so amazing not because we're going to be amazing, it's
• 1:13:02
  because we were amazing. And of course we are evolving to
• 1:13:06
  be amazing, but because we have a what kept us together 2000
• 1:13:10
  years. We have no country, right?
• 1:13:12
  We have nothing that kept us in one place.
• 1:13:15
  It wasn't the language because Hebrew just came back.
• 1:13:18
  It wasn't there for 2000 years. Of course, now we see things are
• 1:13:22
  reshaping and that's a sole but Hashem.
• 1:13:25
  But for 2000 years, what kept us that we shouldn't disintegrate
• 1:13:29
  what, what what and and us more of any nation we were fought at,
• 1:13:36
  we would try to be destroyed. What kept us together.
• 1:13:40
  It was the Toyota that that that ideology that the Toyota is
• 1:13:45
  giving you how you should behave, how what you should do
• 1:13:48
  and you should know because you know, those people who came to
• 1:13:51
  America, for instance, like those people who came because
• 1:13:54
  they ran away from Europe and they want their created
• 1:13:56
  themselves a, you know, a comfortable life over here.
• 1:13:59
  And they had the struggle with Chavez keeping Chavez so on like
• 1:14:02
  I'm talking about in the 1940s and 19 before that and after
• 1:14:07
  that those Chavez was a struggle.
• 1:14:10
  There were certain people who were missing a fish every
• 1:14:12
  weekend. We can't really fathom, you
• 1:14:14
  know, you know, think, think of a lifestyle where you cannot
• 1:14:18
  commit yourself to be in a job because you know that every week
• 1:14:20
  you have to quit and you have to try again every Sunday.
• 1:14:24
  Like what, what type of life is that?
• 1:14:25
  But some people do that. But the people who couldn't,
• 1:14:29
  people who weren't, you know, meant or weren't strong enough
• 1:14:32
  to be able to, to fight those challenge, they would do the
• 1:14:36
  best they, they could, you know, they would keep their job.
• 1:14:41
  They would try to walk to work instead of riding to work, but
• 1:14:44
  they had to go to work. They needed to feed their
• 1:14:47
  family, their little children. They couldn't stand looking at
• 1:14:50
  children being hungry. They they what we would call it.
• 1:14:53
  They weren't junkies. They they couldn't just throw
• 1:14:55
  away their dreams just because OK, I'll try my best.
• 1:15:00
  So they had a sheer shabbas morning.
• 1:15:02
  They get up 6:00 go to shul. Darvin had a sheer learning to
• 1:15:06
  do They they did something extra coverage.
• 1:15:08
  I was whatever. I don't know what it was, but it
• 1:15:10
  was probably like in order for them to like lose a little of
• 1:15:13
  their guilt, but then they had to do the thing to survive.
• 1:15:16
  They went now these, these children, they saw their father
• 1:15:24
  working in Chavez, which means not keeping Chavez.
• 1:15:27
  And but they also saw their father doing a Suda 6:00 in the
• 1:15:30
  morning. Did they get up 6:00 in the
• 1:15:32
  morning and do a Suda? No, they're like, just I'll take
• 1:15:35
  the good part of it. I can work the shops, you know,
• 1:15:39
  and so never 3 generations later, they have nothing to do
• 1:15:43
  to identify with Judaism besides, you know, little here
• 1:15:47
  and there like a have a Chanukah menorah or heaven starve David.
• 1:15:52
  Yeah, but this, this is their Yiddish guide.
• 1:15:55
  What kept Yiddish guide thriving throughout all generations?
• 1:15:58
  You have to agree. It was it was the Toyota.
• 1:16:01
  The base in English was destroyed.
• 1:16:02
  That was the epitome of Karl. That was like, oh, you see, this
• 1:16:05
  is untouchable. This is God's building.
• 1:16:07
  And then these Romans came and just said God's building, you're
• 1:16:11
  a nobody. What kept colleagues all
• 1:16:13
  together. It was the toilet.
• 1:16:16
  So throughout generation, if you want to look at influencers,
• 1:16:19
  somebody who should you should look at it as a role model.
• 1:16:23
  Although there are some simple Jews that have you know how they
• 1:16:27
  called meek Amphys romance and MKY moments and we still get
• 1:16:31
  inspired. But simply like me and you and
• 1:16:34
  you. It is inspiration that helps us
• 1:16:37
  in our life to enhance it. But really what where we look up
• 1:16:40
  to are the scholars, the people who lead the toy, who spread the
• 1:16:45
  toy and so on and so on. And that's probably what it's
• 1:16:47
  meant for us in order for Collegeville to be together.
• 1:16:50
  And that's probably what it's going to be.
• 1:16:52
  But it definitely is going to evolve as we see today.
• 1:16:55
  Singers weren't the thing 80 years ago, right?
• 1:17:01
  We don't know of songs that were 300 years old.
• 1:17:03
  Can you sing me a song that's 300 years old?
• 1:17:07
  Can you sing me a song that is 4400 years old?
• 1:17:10
  Come on. There was no singing back then.
• 1:17:12
  There was Kaiser wasn't That wasn't something that kept, you
• 1:17:17
  know, that moved Judaism together.
• 1:17:21
  So therefore there was no reason why, you know, a singer should
• 1:17:26
  be someone who should be a thing that you should look up to.
• 1:17:29
  But today, singing is what is really giving us gasoline, as
• 1:17:34
  you can see, you know, the, the young generation, that's the,
• 1:17:37
  it's the oxygen. They're reading it up so.
• 1:17:39
  You will find that people like me are going to be looked up to,
• 1:17:42
  you know, And look, I have a Shiva.
• 1:17:45
  I didn't, I didn't decide one that I want to be a Shiva.
• 1:17:48
  They were drawn to me. And God, as Graca Pratis LED
• 1:17:53
  that it should be that way, right?
• 1:17:56
  And because you think it's a cool idea, it will happen.
• 1:17:59
  It will happen one day and as we can see on social media, there
• 1:18:02
  are influencers that are not Dafka, Toyota, Toyota scholars
• 1:18:05
  and it's going to happen more and more.
• 1:18:07
  It's just we come from a place where the right thing to do is
• 1:18:11
  to look up at a rabbit, at a manic, at a, at a Poisik and so
• 1:18:16
  on and so on because this is what really, you know, held us
• 1:18:20
  together all these years. But now we're right before
• 1:18:22
  Mashiach. So things are starting to
• 1:18:26
  integrate a little bit. You know the things are.
• 1:18:29
  OK. So you're saying that, you know,
• 1:18:30
  we have a little bit of this dynamic already, you know, with
• 1:18:33
  the the singers, you know, and it's LED you to be able to give
• 1:18:37
  back in a really strong way with these other kids that you're
• 1:18:41
  right, that you're helping. And look, I think it's beautiful
• 1:18:44
  what you're what you're saying. And I agree a lot.
• 1:18:47
  The one thing that really is tying us all together is the
• 1:18:50
  laws, right? It's not just our tradition, you
• 1:18:52
  know, the history, it's that we follow along the same path,
• 1:18:56
  right? The same guiding light, that
• 1:18:57
  same shining light. The Torres are shining light.
• 1:19:00
  Sure, but I got to sound the alarm here.
• 1:19:02
  And I've said this before. I got to pull the fire alarm, my
• 1:19:05
  friend, because there's a fire. It's only smoke right now, but
• 1:19:09
  there's a fire brewery. And I'm telling you that this is
• 1:19:11
  not going to cut it. It's just not going to cut it
• 1:19:12
  anymore because, you know, 30 years ago and prior to that, for
• 1:19:17
  thousands of years, you knew what was going on in your little
• 1:19:20
  town. And then, you know, the Jewish
• 1:19:23
  people tried to really keep what was going on in their little
• 1:19:25
  tiny community, right? You didn't know what was going
• 1:19:27
  on in the world. And it wasn't, it wasn't so
• 1:19:29
  inviting and it wasn't so accessible.
• 1:19:31
  Now as we're developing in the digital age, it's becoming way
• 1:19:36
  more accessible. So whether we like it or not,
• 1:19:39
  the kids, the, the youth, the younger generation, they're
• 1:19:42
  seeing, both sides are seeing what their parents are giving
• 1:19:45
  them and what their teachers are giving them and all the
• 1:19:47
  beautiful things that, you know, our culture has to offer.
• 1:19:49
  And it's wonderful, but it's unavoidable.
• 1:19:52
  There's another evil force, whatever you want to call it,
• 1:19:55
  that's out there that's also drawing them in.
• 1:19:58
  And it's hard to look away. It's hard to look away.
• 1:20:01
  So I would rather give them what's out there in a certain,
• 1:20:06
  you know, in a different way that I'm comfortable with that I
• 1:20:09
  would rather reposition it for them over here because if I
• 1:20:12
  don't, they're going to go looking for it elsewhere, right?
• 1:20:15
  So why not? When I meant by this concept of
• 1:20:18
  finding, you know, guys like you to become full time influencers,
• 1:20:21
  to really showcase your entire life and make it like it's cool,
• 1:20:25
  it's great. You could have the most amazing
• 1:20:27
  life. You could be a firm Jew and
• 1:20:29
  follow the turret and follow everything and still succeed and
• 1:20:33
  do great things, you know, and these other people are, I don't
• 1:20:36
  want them looking even over there for some type of
• 1:20:38
  entertainment value that they might be getting that isn't
• 1:20:41
  going to serve them. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:20:43
  That's all I'm saying is we need more of the, you know, media
• 1:20:47
  attention with Jewish things, right?
• 1:20:50
  Not just hearing about Israel all the time, you know, and how
• 1:20:53
  awful and evil, you know, Israel is, right?
• 1:20:55
  We, we, we actually should be putting some positive things,
• 1:20:58
  you know, and you know, Jewish inventors, you know, Jewish
• 1:21:00
  philosophers, Jewish artists, right?
• 1:21:03
  Things like this that the kids could get behind.
• 1:21:06
  That's all, That's all I'm saying.
• 1:21:07
  And you're right. It is, it is, by the way,
• 1:21:09
  getting more and more like this. You're 100% right from in the
• 1:21:12
  last five years, we've made leaps and bounds and really big
• 1:21:14
  strides in how how far we're going.
• 1:21:17
  It starts from schema kala. Look, Slim Kala is a world
• 1:21:19
  sensation, Yes. Yeah.
• 1:21:20
  There's not a little town that doesn't have a kala.
• 1:21:24
  Me. I'm talking even the most.
• 1:21:26
  The most? There's a tear to my eye that
• 1:21:27
  you weren't able to listen to Sloma Kala.
• 1:21:29
  And you know, Michael, it's really, really, I was how many
• 1:21:32
  times I've heard you say in this podcast probably five times,
• 1:21:34
  maybe more, maybe 7-8 times, you know, like growing up, you know,
• 1:21:38
  by in our culture, you know, we weren't able to do this or it's
• 1:21:41
  not OK to do that. So many of these like it's not
• 1:21:45
  OK and don't send like you can't.
• 1:21:47
  And like, what a tough way to grow up.
• 1:21:49
  What a hard way to grow up. You know what, Michael, you know
• 1:21:52
  what I'm saying? What's up with that?
• 1:21:54
  Like you got to have a little bit more allowances and
• 1:21:56
  flexibility. And like you said, you're doing
• 1:21:57
  this for your boys in your school is your customizing
• 1:22:00
  things and you're adapting look. I'm not trying to be like, you
• 1:22:05
  know, the serious guy in the room, and I don't want to make
• 1:22:08
  you look like the liberal guy in the room.
• 1:22:10
  That's what's happening here, by the way.
• 1:22:12
  That's literally what's happening.
• 1:22:13
  I'm like becoming way more to 1:00 on the other side and like.
• 1:22:16
  Perfect way to end the podcast. Go ahead, let's hear it.
• 1:22:19
  But I think you would agree that there's certain things that you
• 1:22:21
  wouldn't expose your kids. And depending on the age, you
• 1:22:25
  know, you know, certain things that you could trust them with
• 1:22:28
  and certainly that you could. You feel it now.
• 1:22:30
  Then you'll find a different a different household that they
• 1:22:34
  are more liberal to that and they would think that you're
• 1:22:37
  crazy for being so strict and so on, so disciplined and so on.
• 1:22:40
  You have to understand that the reason why there were certain
• 1:22:44
  restrictions and so on is all of it is, you know, nobody wants to
• 1:22:48
  be mean to their children. Nobody wants to just be nasty
• 1:22:52
  and so on. Everybody has a certain.
• 1:22:54
  The road to hell is paved with good intentions, right?
• 1:22:57
  Exactly, if you put it that way. That's what happens.
• 1:23:01
  They think they're doing the right thing.
• 1:23:02
  You know, sports. Sports is something that's not
• 1:23:05
  OK in the Hasidic communities. Absolutely not OK.
• 1:23:10
  They shouldn't watch it. They shouldn't be playing it
• 1:23:12
  right. I think that's such a big mess,
• 1:23:15
  but the same thing. It's such a big mess.
• 1:23:16
  But but you see, because you only see it from your
• 1:23:19
  perspective. You don't see it from their
• 1:23:20
  perspective. I'm not trying to be here.
• 1:23:22
  You know, God's good lawyer over here or see a good lawyer, but
• 1:23:26
  there's different rhyme and reason for everything.
• 1:23:28
  And I think everybody should be happy or open minded to just
• 1:23:33
  enhance their world according to what the tools that they have
• 1:23:36
  and according to it. Are you accepted in the see that
• 1:23:39
  you can look at the ultra see that you can use it in the
• 1:23:41
  monorails of the world? And they're like right now if
• 1:23:44
  you walk into Williamsburg shul to the main shul you walk in,
• 1:23:47
  are people applauding you or are people somewhat like very
• 1:23:51
  neutral about you? Like what's the reaction to?
• 1:23:53
  I'm not a hero. OK.
• 1:23:57
  But are they, are they distancing themselves or are you
• 1:23:59
  accepted in these, in these communities?
• 1:24:01
  Right now, yeah, because, you know, I, I walk their walk, I
• 1:24:04
  talk their talk. I mean, there's no reason why
• 1:24:06
  they should feel like I'm yeah, why?
• 1:24:09
  Why not? I mean, if they have certain, if
• 1:24:13
  certain communities have certain naive and close minded ways of
• 1:24:19
  thinking, yes, but it's OK. Like, you know, this, this is
• 1:24:25
  surround myself with, with, with, with people or with
• 1:24:28
  communities that I feel look up to me or where I feel like I'm
• 1:24:32
  being heard or I can be positive and looked at and act so on.
• 1:24:37
  I think everybody should do that.
• 1:24:39
  And I don't think we need to like be negative towards this.
• 1:24:43
  I'm not talking if somebody's not somebody's evil and I'm not
• 1:24:47
  talking in that sense. And of course has to be
• 1:24:48
  awareness that people have to be more caring and more good than
• 1:24:52
  me, be more selfless and more looking out for, for the for the
• 1:24:56
  youth and everything is good, but not everybody's capable of
• 1:24:59
  doing it. You like what you do You have
• 1:25:02
  any visions of sometimes? Thinking, you know, maybe I'd do
• 1:25:04
  something a little bit more risque.
• 1:25:06
  I do something a little bit more.
• 1:25:08
  Are you, are you mindful of that or is that just something that's
• 1:25:10
  natural to you and you like what you're doing?
• 1:25:12
  You're not even thinking about anything else?
• 1:25:14
  Or are you limiting yourself because you're trying to fit
• 1:25:18
  into a certain I? I'm definitely a politician when
• 1:25:22
  it comes to. Being making my environment and
• 1:25:28
  my fan base comfortable, I would not act, you know,
• 1:25:32
  inappropriately to cause them uncomfortability.
• 1:25:37
  So you're lucky representing and you're trying to not because I'm
• 1:25:40
  representing. I want them.
• 1:25:42
  To like me, I want them to hire me.
• 1:25:45
  I want them to think positive of me.
• 1:25:48
  So I would, you know, try to be a politician in that way.
• 1:25:53
  Like the, you know, like if I'm in a bad mood, like let's say I
• 1:25:57
  was, I was, somebody put me down, right?
• 1:26:02
  Or somebody stuck the. Energy out of me, you know, he
• 1:26:05
  was wasting my time too much and putting me in a corner and so
• 1:26:09
  on. And then now suddenly you have
• 1:26:11
  to sing this show. You have to be in a good mood.
• 1:26:14
  Should I sing the film or should I be a politician?
• 1:26:17
  You got to be a puppet. I got to be a politician.
• 1:26:19
  Yeah, right. I cannot.
• 1:26:21
  Disappoint my customer. I cannot disappoint my family.
• 1:26:24
  I cannot disappoint my people. I agree.
• 1:26:26
  But is that you? Is what I'm asking?
• 1:26:28
  Is that really, really you? What we're?
• 1:26:29
  Yes, what we're seeing, what we're seeing on stage, what
• 1:26:32
  we're hearing, you know, we're listening to music.
• 1:26:34
  Is that really what you want and what you are or, or this is what
• 1:26:38
  you are? No, naturally I'm, I'm, I'm in
• 1:26:40
  my, in my headspace. I'm just like.
• 1:26:43
  In my creativity, I'm like, just so what's next?
• 1:26:49
  Great question. What's next?
• 1:26:52
  What's? The dream.
• 1:26:53
  What's the evolution for Barry? Webber.
• 1:26:57
  Oh, for Barry, I am asking globally.
• 1:27:01
  But we can ask that as well. It's OK, It's OK.
• 1:27:03
  Well, that's. Part we're all on this journey
• 1:27:05
  with you. What I mean, we're all whatever
• 1:27:06
  you're going to be doing, we're. All going to be observing.
• 1:27:09
  We're like we're on the train, we're watching, right?
• 1:27:12
  So what's what's next for me individually and then I'll go
• 1:27:15
  globally? You know, I'll, I'll try to go
• 1:27:18
  there. What's next for me?
• 1:27:22
  Rebirth. Renewal Renault, I just started
• 1:27:27
  from new The Shiva. I'm putting out a new album and
• 1:27:31
  hopefully in a month or two. For me it's Renault.
• 1:27:35
  It's like a whole new message. You know, every, every probably
• 1:27:39
  the next year or two, you know, the songs that I'm going to be
• 1:27:42
  singing is going to be based on my new album and if you know.
• 1:27:51
  If I have to put it in a word. It's probably renewal.
• 1:27:53
  It's like my, my, my life just changed.
• 1:27:56
  I, I committed myself to be everyday in yeshiva for many
• 1:28:01
  hours and to care for these chunk of boys to be their father
• 1:28:05
  and their mother and their everything.
• 1:28:10
  And hopefully in my personal life as well, like once I'm in
• 1:28:13
  the zone to refresh my relationships with my children,
• 1:28:17
  with my family and my wife and my parents and my kids, like
• 1:28:21
  while I'm, while I'm in the Rolls Royce, why not, you know,
• 1:28:23
  just like have all the perks, you know, that's this, that's
• 1:28:28
  that's my personal life. What's next, Claudia?
• 1:28:33
  So I think unity because you know, as we see that, you know,
• 1:28:37
  technology, you know, everybody's in everybody's face
• 1:28:45
  in a sense like. It's like you can't.
• 1:28:47
  Hide anything anymore like it's people start by force, being
• 1:28:51
  people by force are being vulnerable and real.
• 1:28:54
  And you start like deciphering what's good, what's bad, what's
• 1:28:58
  evil, what's appropriate, what's not.
• 1:28:59
  Like things are happening like so fast.
• 1:29:02
  So I think the only way to survive is by accepting others
• 1:29:06
  by, you know, by saying, OK, I have that part of me, I could
• 1:29:11
  deal with it. I hope so.
• 1:29:15
  Love it. I love it too.
• 1:29:16
  OK, we always. End our podcast.
• 1:29:18
  With asking you. Who you would think would be a
• 1:29:22
  good guest sitting in that seat? Someone that you know, someone
• 1:29:25
  that you think would be someone that would add value to our
• 1:29:30
  listeners and our. Let me ask you this.
• 1:29:32
  Yeah. What do you really like?
• 1:29:34
  Want to like what? What?
• 1:29:35
  Do you want to hear from this, but you want it like to be a
• 1:29:37
  colorful thing or you specifically like different
• 1:29:40
  things? So you want, if you want, you
• 1:29:41
  can ask us, it says. None of none of which attracts
• 1:29:45
  you like. So you know something like the
• 1:29:47
  media, like something negative, then your business in blue like
• 1:29:53
  you, you're aware that this is the psychology of this.
• 1:29:55
  I never broke it down the. Way you just did by the way.
• 1:29:57
  I'm sure Ellie Bosch did when I never broke.
• 1:29:59
  It down. I'm looking at this thing for.
• 1:30:01
  I don't. Know over a year now.
• 1:30:02
  Yeah. You know, I never even like
• 1:30:03
  really thought about the fact that your business is in blue
• 1:30:06
  and that none of is is black. And that's kind of how we I
• 1:30:09
  don't think that was was like you guys are businessman and
• 1:30:11
  that's why it probably has the word business in it.
• 1:30:13
  You probably wanna track business.
• 1:30:14
  Right. We don't want to be to talk
• 1:30:16
  about business. No, we don't wanna talk about
• 1:30:18
  this. We don't want to talk so.
• 1:30:19
  None of you. I wanna talk about you.
• 1:30:20
  I learned today about very well. I have a whole different
• 1:30:23
  perspective on you. I had no idea that I didn't
• 1:30:27
  consider you to be a singer anymore.
• 1:30:28
  I really don't like I. It's not your essence.
• 1:30:31
  That's not who you are. Pretty wild.
• 1:30:33
  You are really like now. I get the spirituality part by
• 1:30:36
  the way you were trying to explain it early in the
• 1:30:38
  beginning. Like I'm a spiritual person.
• 1:30:40
  Nothing do religion, it's got nothing to do with it's strictly
• 1:30:44
  just a connection to just people and to just trying to get Better
• 1:30:48
  Together. I'll get better, you get better
• 1:30:50
  and let's figure it out. Let's see how we can be happy
• 1:30:52
  together. That's all what it's about for
• 1:30:54
  you. And that's that's an amazing
• 1:30:56
  thing. I have guests over my house,
• 1:30:57
  people who were, you know, behaving a certain way.
• 1:31:01
  And I would get feedback from my family, like, what do you have
• 1:31:04
  in common with this guy? Like he's so not your speed like
• 1:31:09
  and I would like, I'm like, why? Why?
• 1:31:12
  Don't I have encounter with this?
• 1:31:13
  Guy and they're going to be like you do AB and C and he does ABC.
• 1:31:17
  I'm like, wow, I didn't see that ABC.
• 1:31:20
  Like I just saw something like I saw the, the entertainment part
• 1:31:25
  of it or that part of it. It's like, yes, God has, I could
• 1:31:30
  call it gifted because, you know, it's, I, I think it's a
• 1:31:33
  positive thing. He's created me in a way that my
• 1:31:36
  brain sees, you know, a certain way, certain thing and that
• 1:31:40
  that's what attracts that. That's what allows me to be
• 1:31:44
  doing what I do, what I do, you know, to technically, if you
• 1:31:49
  think about it, I'm a guy that is in the 40s.
• 1:31:52
  You know, I'm, I'm a 40 year old and these kids are 16 year old.
• 1:31:56
  It could be very rough, you know, to go down the 16 year old
• 1:32:00
  brain, but I don't have to be in their brain.
• 1:32:03
  I don't have to walk this walk and talk a talk.
• 1:32:05
  I just have to connect two things that we have in common
• 1:32:09
  and boom, that's it. So anyways, going back to my
• 1:32:14
  question is none of your business.
• 1:32:16
  What is the type of like entertainment or or colors that
• 1:32:21
  you want to have that in order for you to ask, you want me just
• 1:32:23
  to pick a random name? I like that you're asking that
• 1:32:25
  it's generally growth oriented, meaning you could be an
• 1:32:28
  entertainer. You could.
• 1:32:29
  Be in CEO and you could be a politician, but how are you
• 1:32:32
  growing? What are your challenges?
• 1:32:33
  Where you from, what are you doing and what's next?
• 1:32:35
  That's the concept, meaning not your business.
• 1:32:37
  We could talk about your business for a minute, but the
• 1:32:40
  the, the, the growth aspect. So I think we covered most of
• 1:32:44
  it, but who am I think like this popped in my brain.
• 1:32:47
  That I think could like relate to the stuff that I'm saying.
• 1:32:51
  I could probably use You would You would look at him as like if
• 1:32:53
  you look at me as a. Monkey like, not not.
• 1:32:55
  In a bad way, but like a certain character, I think that person
• 1:32:59
  would also have that element in himself Is probably like Shlomo
• 1:33:02
  gazing from Zusha. Did you interview him yet?
• 1:33:06
  No, didn't we? Is this?
• 1:33:08
  Didn't he say he's coming out? He did.
• 1:33:10
  He did. Yeah.
• 1:33:11
  His, his was. Is it his brother?
• 1:33:13
  Who's not his brother, his partner, the Zakaria.
• 1:33:16
  Yeah, that he just moved recently.
• 1:33:17
  So Zusha. Zusha is just the name of the.
• 1:33:19
  Band, which is not. Sure, exactly if it's.
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  Zusha, brother. So they said they have to come
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  together. So they have to do a schedule
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  where they come together, Yeah. Yeah, but you're right.
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  That's a that's a good. That's a good.
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  But spiritually I. Connect a lot with Shlomo.
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  It's just I'm sure I'm connected to a lot of other.
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  People but just this this. But every time I see him, I ask
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  him to explain me line into Hillam.
• 1:33:42
  Oh, yeah, and he always does. And yeah, he's very connected.
• 1:33:45
  To have a Pinson, you know a Pinson is a very deep guy.
• 1:33:49
  Yeah, for sure. So he's one of your pick, but we
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  already have him on the schedule, so we'll have to go.
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  For another one, who's another one?
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  Yeah. I mean, who would you like for
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  it? Doesn't need to be a famous guy,
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  no. He likes it when it's famous,
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  but. I'm a very.
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  Interesting person I like you know.
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  Fun stuff. Put it this.
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  Way if you open the podcast tomorrow, who would be your
• 1:34:09
  first guest? Oh, I.
• 1:34:13
  Wouldn't go for fun. Who?
• 1:34:15
  Would you go for? I would go probably for a
• 1:34:16
  psychologist for. Like a like a a deep thinker
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  probably. Is there someone in mind that
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  you have like? Someone that Manas Friedman.
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  Manas Friedman, do you know him by chance?
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  Yeah. Can you ask?
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  Him to join. I could.
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  I would love him. Yeah.
• 1:34:33
  He's. Am I supposed to know who that
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  is? Yes.
• 1:34:36
  We're not going to get into that now, Denny.
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  Friedman's father. The singer Benny Friedman.
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  Yeah. He's awesome.
• 1:34:43
  He puts out a lot of great. Content and he delivers it very
• 1:34:47
  clearly and I'm a big fan, so if you can bring him on, that would
• 1:34:50
  be great. Yeah, you can ask him to join
• 1:34:52
  us. Awesome.
• 1:34:53
  Yeah, we usually ask the person to call him now on the thing,
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  but we're not. Going to We're not going.
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  To push you to that level now, unless you're OK with it, I'm
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  OK. So call him.
• 1:35:02
  Oh, right now. Yeah, that's what he was saying.
• 1:35:05
  He usually wouldn't. Usually I would say call the guy
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  right? Now and ask him to join and let
• 1:35:09
  him come on the year we'll have him.
• 1:35:10
  Do it live in real time thinking I.
• 1:35:15
  Should do that. That's why I was careful.
• 1:35:17
  He's already thinking, yeah, yeah, that if we let it.
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  Go, let it go. We don't.
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  Want to be too uncomfortable? Because I'm uncomfortable just
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  because like, I like I'm. Thinking why should I do that?
• 1:35:25
  No. Why?
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  Can I do it like, no, I do it later, Yeah.
• 1:35:28
  It's just more, it's more entertaining people watching to
• 1:35:30
  all the happy. Listeners, thank you.
• 1:35:31
  To our subscribers. Thank you.
• 1:35:33
  To all of our guests, thank. You Hashem and thank you for
• 1:35:35
  joining us and thank you to the Prime Source production team.
• 1:35:39
  This was an incredible episode. I really appreciate getting to
• 1:35:41
  know you spiritually, musically, emotionally, and it, it was
• 1:35:47
  amazing. I, I really appreciate it.
• 1:35:48
  Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you.
• 1:35:50
  That's a wrap. That's a wrap.