Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Breanna Claussen: The Need For Christians To Discern News Biblically
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:19Hello friends and family in Christ.
- 0:22Thank you so much for tuning in, another great topic, and of course another great guest.
- 0:28I'm excited to bring back Brianna Klassen, she's, well, founder, president and editor in
- 0:34chief of Harbingers, daily news, the website of course, Harbingers, daily.com, or so
- 0:42thankful for what a great website, what great information, and I don't know how they keep
- 0:48up with everything, but we're going to ask her about that.
- 0:51Brianna, thank you so much for being back on the podcast, good to see you.
- 0:55Thank you so much for having me.
- 0:57So before we get to some of the topics, I want to bring up our first podcast with you,
- 1:03I'm glad to connect with you.
- 1:05It was called Overcoming Lies in Media and Compromise in Christian Media.
- 1:12There Jeff just showed us how to get to that first one, go to worldviewmatters.tv and
- 1:17type in Brianna Klassen, and the first episode will come up and then this one.
- 1:22But anyway, it's so great the work that you do.
- 1:24It's just taken on new life, especially with the current conflict over in Iran.
- 1:32Before we jump into some of the articles and topics, how do you keep up with everything?
- 1:37I know you have a staff there, but it's a small staff.
- 1:41My goodness, it must be kind of exhausting.
- 1:43You have to pick and choose what to go with and when, explain that process for people
- 1:47that have no idea how it works.
- 1:50Well, I mean, it's a lot of hours, but when you're doing work in ministry, we should never
- 1:56look at it as the amount of hours that you're putting into everything.
- 1:59It's all about serving the Lord and you don't really get any off hours from serving the Lord
- 2:05and neither should we want any.
- 2:06So, you know, it's a lot of time and dedication into doing it, but I'm very grateful to the Lord
- 2:12for giving me the ability to reach people through this means and I enjoy it very much.
- 2:18So, one of the big reasons it's so great to have you on.
- 2:21I was thinking, right before we got on the podcast, I was thinking, do I have how many true
- 2:28journalists with the biblical worldview or people that I can go to that I have?
- 2:32I've got Alex Newman and I've got you, you know, not that you're journalist, but with that
- 2:37news background and that desire for truth in media and there's not a lot.
- 2:43So, we need to discern as the body of Christ.
- 2:46Christians need to be more discerning than ever because you mentioned a few
- 2:50before we got on the podcast of how we've got to really be careful what we're hearing.
- 2:55Even from influencers and formerly, I don't know, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson now.
- 3:03You know, maybe he's a Christian, maybe he's not, I think he is, but I don't know where he's at.
- 3:07He just went down just what we can call a wrong path now in his lies and the propaganda that's
- 3:15out there and people are buying it hookline and sink or there. You know what, let's just start
- 3:20with that one. Yeah, that's a good place to start because I loved the way Ambassador Mike Huckabee
- 3:27responded to really, it wasn't an interview, it was an interrogation, it was like an attack.
- 3:32And Brianna, you wrote about this and in one of these articles over at Harbinger's Daily
- 3:38calculated lies against the Jewish state and you talked about that venomous inquisition,
- 3:44you called it. I think that surprised a lot of people, but I'm so glad for the way that Mike
- 3:52Huckabee responded in truth and love. Go ahead and share whatever you'd like about that.
- 3:57Well, I think the first thing I would say with Tucker Carlson is, you know, while we're not
- 4:02supposed to judge somebody as to whether or not, you know, they're saved the intentions of their
- 4:07heart, the Bible does say that we can know by the fruit. And the problem that we've seen very
- 4:12recently with Tucker Carlson is I don't think that he, I think that it was the things that he's
- 4:18saying are quite deliberate. When he went to go and do the interview with Mike Huckabee,
- 4:23he went into the Israeli airport, the Bangerian in Tel Aviv. He didn't leave the airport and he
- 4:31came out after before the interview was released and said that he was wrongfully, you know,
- 4:35detained at the airport and that they were mistreating him. And, you know, Israeli airport authorities
- 4:41came out after and said that's absolutely false. Mike Huckabee said it was completely false that
- 4:46they were just, you know, following standard procedure. And there was also footage that came out
- 4:52that show Tucker Carlson, you know, laughing and smiling and taking pictures with some of the
- 4:57Israeli officers that were there. But so it, that shows that's a great groundwork for the interview
- 5:04because it shows that it's deliberate lies. It's a deliberate attempt to change and distort how
- 5:11people see the nation of Israel. And Mike Huckabee, he handled himself very well. But I mean, he,
- 5:20he was not allowed to respond to any extent, really. And that was a problem. And anytime that,
- 5:27you know, Mike Huckabee actually got the ability to go into a subject, Tucker would pull him in a
- 5:32different direction. And, you know, Mike Huckabee called it really a gacha and an interrogation,
- 5:40as you said. And he actually had to go onto social media afterward and elaborate because he was
- 5:46given no time to respond on what his actual answers to these questions were. And it's a reminder
- 5:53also to conservatives, you know, I would stay away from jumping on board with doing an interview
- 6:00with Tucker Carlson. Because especially on this topic, there is nobody, he was one of the most
- 6:08qualified, if not the most qualified person on the planet, to be arguing in defense of Christian
- 6:14Zionism. He, you know, he served as a former pastor Mike Huckabee. He was the former governor of
- 6:20Arkansas. He's been in politics for like the time. He's been to Israel dozens and dozens of times.
- 6:25And he's now the US ambassador for US ambassador to Israel. So he's defending this on a daily basis.
- 6:32If anybody could have, you know, put Tucker in, you know, in a line and invested him in, you know,
- 6:39an interview, he would have been him. But the reality is that you're just going to be treated with
- 6:44disrespect. You're just going to be cut off. And there's no point in any more conservatives,
- 6:50you know, piling on to to join him in that. Yeah, I think they know what they can expect now.
- 6:58If they do, you know, a certain interview, I mean, it's really interesting. I used to watch him
- 7:04when he was really more of a truth defender and proclamer Tucker years ago. But he took a page.
- 7:11It seems like his, his tactic and how he interviewed, at least Huckabee and a few others,
- 7:17read out of the Democrat socialist media playbook. Just attack, accuse, don't give an opportunity
- 7:24to respond and just let your talking points go out. And that's what the other outlets pick up.
- 7:31So, but let's move on, Brianna, speaking of the Democrat socialist media away from Harbinger's
- 7:35daily now for a moment. And this is a reason to be discerning and for a reason to have more people
- 7:42do what you do. Let's go over to, well, you made it, let's go to CNN first. And this is a story
- 7:48over at Fox News and other outlets. I don't know who this is because I don't watch the Communist
- 7:52News Network, but Abby Phillips or Abby Philip. She lies. And she claimed, she had to apologize,
- 7:59I guess, now, but she claimed that the New York City terror attack recently was by Republicans,
- 8:06and it was against Zoran Mamdani. And so finally, she apologizes, but this is just not only irresponsible,
- 8:15but she didn't know the facts. She didn't get them. She went out and she apologized and said that
- 8:22she didn't have the right, whatever wording of it first. And she, anyway, this is just so sad,
- 8:29but she's on a major, well, not major anymore, Brianna. But anyway, she's on a minor cable
- 8:35network CNN. And she puts this out there, not surprising, but just another reason for us to just
- 8:42avoid these outlets, right? Yeah. And they distort and twist in twist reality. Even when they're
- 8:50reporting on breaking news, that's usually a time where people are just, you know, it's so fast
- 8:54moving. They haven't been able to figure figure out what the spin is yet in a lot of cases.
- 9:01But you've got to be so careful with your wording because even an article that doesn't look
- 9:06overtly bias when you're reading it from CNN, MSNBC, any of these places, you know, there's so
- 9:15many subtle wording changes that they add in there, such as like claimed and, you know, allegedly,
- 9:21you know, and even the order that they give you of event of events is all designed to give
- 9:27the reader an impression about how they should feel about what they're reading. And when it comes
- 9:31to anything like the war in Iran, anti-Semitism, they have a direction that they want you to be
- 9:37thinking. Yeah. They want you to be thinking with Trump that, you know, he didn't try the diplomatic
- 9:43solution with Iran and that, you know, this military action was too far and beyond his powers
- 9:48as a president and all of that. So you've got to pay attention to who they quote. You've got to
- 9:53pay attention to the order of things, how they word it. And it's best to just avoid them all together
- 9:58because a lot of people think, well, for some things, I'm still going to go to these bigger groups,
- 10:03you know, the associated press and all of that. But just there's so much deception interwoven
- 10:10into any of these. And you have a lot of these groups, even, unfortunately, conservative groups,
- 10:15like Newsmax and Breitbart that very regularly use articles that are really filler articles that
- 10:21they purchase from the associated press. And I tell you, I'm half a sentence in before I'm like,
- 10:27okay, so this is AP, you know, you can tell right out of the gate just by the little ways that
- 10:33they word it to try to like the impression that they're trying to make. Well, you can, you can,
- 10:38a lot of people apparently can, but the AP, I mean, it used to be reputable, maybe in the 80s and 90s,
- 10:45not anymore. I mean, they're so uber liberal and biased. But by the way, so Abby Philip, the CNN
- 10:52person, apologized via tweet over on X first. And that failed, I guess. And then she had to
- 10:59apologize on there. This is just, it's a circus. So now let's go over to a media research center now
- 11:05over at newsbusters. And here's just one example of the incredible bias over on the main networks,
- 11:11ABC, CBS and NBC. How long did they spend on the popular voter ID bill zero? They didn't even
- 11:23mention it. They didn't cover it. Now let me explain this. This is the Save Act on voter ID.
- 11:29Safeguard American voter eligibility. Save act. 70% of people support this, right? Because it has
- 11:39to do with voter integrity and voter ID. So if you're fair and reporting on this, you're going to
- 11:45cover it. If you're opposed to all things Trump, you could attack it or whatever. But what did they
- 11:52do? They pretended it didn't even exist. I'm talking about zero. All the major networks
- 11:58did not touch zero seconds. That was, of course, they don't want to spend time talking about it
- 12:04because it makes sense. And it's going to be popular because everybody's going to say, well,
- 12:08of course, you need to prove who you are, who you say you are before you can vote. Isn't that
- 12:12basic? Yeah. You know, but the Democrats still want to be opposing it. But it doesn't surprise me
- 12:17at all that they would spend no time in talking about it. And by the way, it's a common sense law.
- 12:23Yeah. So I don't have this list in front of me. But you've seen the list, most people watching
- 12:30or listening, you've seen the list of all the things that you need either a voter and ID or
- 12:36a driver's license. You need an ID for, I mean, I'm buying alcohol or just different things.
- 12:43Not only drive a car, but you know, airports getting a plane ticket, different things you need
- 12:47an ID, but not to vote. It's just like what? Oh, it's insane. I mean, some of the most liberal
- 12:54countries in the world, the most progressive wouldn't don't have any interest in, you know,
- 13:01making people vote and without, you know, actually requiring identification to prove who they are.
- 13:07So it doesn't make any sense that that wouldn't be required. Okay. So we're going back to some
- 13:12of Brianna's articles. Now, you least over on Harbinger's Daily, let's start with this one. This
- 13:17is actually from Decision Magazine. This is going to be a quickie here at Brianna because this came
- 13:22out earlier this month. Trump administration sends warning letter to all 50 states as foster
- 13:31care system actively discriminates against Christians. We've known this for decades, but now we
- 13:39have an administration that's trying to do something about it. So this is a Joe Biden liberal
- 13:45Democrat era rule that requires potential foster parents to prove that they will support a gender
- 13:53transition or the LGBTQ identity of their prospective foster children. And this is so discriminatory
- 14:03and so wrong. So that's what they're trying to do now. Your, your brief thoughts on this
- 14:09move on? I think that they know what they're doing. They know that a Christian is not going to be
- 14:15able to go along with that. And, you know, they're very much in favor of this, unfortunately, this
- 14:22perversion of children, this manipulation of children pushing them into the, into rejecting how
- 14:29God designed their bodies. They're trying to put children in rebellion against God right from
- 14:35the start as early as they can. And they don't want Christians in the foster care system. And that
- 14:40article noted that there's a larger percentage of Christians that are willing to be foster parents.
- 14:47Then, you know, all these other, you know, group religious groups or atheists or
- 14:52so you, but you're really alienating these individuals that are going to care and safeguard
- 14:57children against dangerous ideologies. And that's obviously not what they want, but it's Christians
- 15:02that are being targeted in that. Yep. And, and this is nothing new, friends. We shouldn't be
- 15:06surprised by this. But when we see blatant examples of bias or discrimination and it is against
- 15:14the biblical worldview or Christians, we need to call it out early support people who are trying
- 15:19to raise awareness about this. So, um, let's, we're moving fast today, Brianna. This going by way
- 15:24too fast, but let's move over to Iran now. And one of your articles that came out earlier this month
- 15:30on March 2nd, President Trump is right. The downfall of Iran's regime is it's unrelenting
- 15:38desire to practice evil. Let, let that headline soak in, just sink in a minute, friends,
- 15:47because this is what they do. Have everyone saying, well, can you compromise with them?
- 15:53Can you make a peace treaty with them? Can you negotiate? The answer is no, because we understand
- 15:59underlying all this, it's spiritual at its root. Go ahead and share about the article.
- 16:05Yeah. Well, so, um, President Trump, when he announced the operation, he said, we tried to do
- 16:12diplomacy with the Iran. We tried again and again and again. And he said the problem with that,
- 16:18the reason why diplomacy didn't work was because, quote, they just wanted to practice evil.
- 16:24And that is such a clear statement to come from a president. Yes. Because that's exactly what it is.
- 16:30It is a spiritual thing. This is a, a rationality that comes with people who are demonically driven,
- 16:38ideology driven in these things. And, um, one of the most dangerous ideologies in the world,
- 16:43this Islamic ideology is so, um, intertwined within the Iranian regime. They truly believe,
- 16:51the leadership of it truly believes that they're going to, um, you know, bring about the coming of
- 16:58their Mahadi, it's it's called, or it's also called the 12th Imam, their version of an Islamic
- 17:05Messiah, and how they're going to bring that about is by attacking Jews and Christians. So that's,
- 17:11you know, Israel and Western civilization, they're going to get that by striking terror into
- 17:16individuals, um, across the world and causing chaos. And that's why they don't care about their own
- 17:22people. That's why they're so single-minded and irrational in what they're doing. And, um,
- 17:27Eric Stackelbeck, host of the Watchman newscast, and Stackelbeck tonight, he does an absolutely
- 17:32fantastic job. Yes. But he pointed out, um, all of the failures that Iran has experienced over the
- 17:40past two years since, uh, at following October 7th, you know, you have their ring of fire proxies
- 17:47that are there. And, you know, Hamas and, um, in Gaza, Hezbollah and Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen,
- 17:53and their proxies in Iraq and Syria also, they've been largely crushed by the IDF by military
- 18:00operations over this time. The leadership of all of these groups is dead and long dead for, you
- 18:07know, for quite some time. They are shells of their former self. That is completely embarrassing
- 18:13for the nation of Iran. Then you also have every time that Iran has tried to attack Israel with
- 18:20ballistic missiles, uh, the interception rate has, uh, from the, Israel, from the iron dome system
- 18:26has been unbelievable. And it's been such an abysmal failure that it's like over and over and over
- 18:32again. They're faced with these, like, just complete embarrassment, you know, and yet they don't
- 18:39stop what they're doing. And then you had the, in June, you had the 12-day war where, you know,
- 18:44Israel had complete control over the skies over Iran, complete control. And we're carrying out
- 18:50precision strikes throughout that whole period of time. And it was concluded with the United States
- 18:56targeting three of their nuclear facilities. And then within Iran itself, you have unrest with
- 19:05their people. You have economic turmoil and rolling blackouts and severe drought. And the point
- 19:12that he was making is you would think that a rational nation would say, let's take a step back,
- 19:20you know, let's, you know, keep quiet for a little while at least. But that's not at all what we're
- 19:26seeing. And, um, Eric Sackelbeck ended by saying, evil is relentless until it's utterly crushed.
- 19:33Yes. And that's the reality of this. There's so irrational in mind that they do not care about
- 19:39their people. They do not care about anything that they are suffering, they are pouring all of
- 19:44their money into funding terrorism, all of their money into, um, pursuing their goal of
- 19:49destroying Israel and Judeo Christian Western civilization. And Benjamin Netanyahu warned
- 19:56all the way back, you know, in 2015, he stood before the United Nations, he stood before Congress
- 20:02when they were putting forward the, you know, joint comprehensive plan of action, the JCPOA
- 20:07under the Obama administration. And he said, you know, this post diplomatic solution is not
- 20:13going to do anything. And the reason why is because you're not actually addressing the bad
- 20:17actions that are here. You're not saying that a deal is predicated on you not continuing to fund
- 20:23terrorism. You're not saying that it's predicated on you not causing terror abroad or seeking to,
- 20:28you know, annihilate the nation of Israel. They should have been required in all of that
- 20:33to change those actions and become a less radical regime in order for a deal to be made. But
- 20:40they're not willing to do that. They weren't willing to do that. And just like Benjamin Netanyahu
- 20:44warned, then that delay in period of time where Iran, they provided sanctions relief and Iran said,
- 20:52okay, we're not pursuing nuclear weapons. It just made Iran stronger and it made their
- 20:59proxies more deadly also. And Trump had it right. I saw an article from Christianity today
- 21:08that basically blamed Trump for Iran and the state that it's in today by saying that, oh,
- 21:15it's because he left the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear deal. And that's the reason why we're seeing,
- 21:22you know, such an aggressive Iran. And it's just, it's nonsense. But I don't expect much from,
- 21:29so, you know, anti-Donald Trump, so like illogically thinking groups, very ideology-driven within
- 21:37like Christianity today. Yeah, Christianity, Australia. We mentioned then the last time we had you
- 21:43on the podcast when we talked about compromise in Christian media. And there are way too many outlets
- 21:49that have gone progressive and left and woke or whatever. But back to your article, you bring
- 21:56in the spiritual dynamic. And this is important to remember, who's driving Iran? Who's driving
- 22:00their leaders? Remember Satan, he fell because of pride. So pride is causing them to act even more
- 22:07arrogant, more boastful, as Stacklbeck said. But you go on, and I'm quoting you in the article,
- 22:12says, but how do we know that the Iranian regime and its supreme leader were satanically motivated
- 22:20through God's word? We know that the devil is the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning.
- 22:27Demonically driven individuals are often consumed with delusion. I love that, Brianna, good wording
- 22:35there. Working against their own best interests. And then you say scripture also teaches that Satan
- 22:41has a relentless hatred for the Jews and Bible believing Christians. Please elaborate on this for us.
- 22:50Yeah, well, and another point that I make there is that people who are demonically driven,
- 22:57you know, we have examples from the Bible which show they work against their own self-interest.
- 23:02You have examples, unfortunately, in scripture where it shows that people that are demonically
- 23:06possessed are throwing themselves into fires and cutting themselves and all these kind of things
- 23:11because you're so single-minded in being demonically driven in that.
- 23:20And that show that we see that within the nation of Iran because they're not worried about
- 23:25self-preservation really. They're not worried about their people really. They're working against
- 23:31themselves. They're not thinking rationally. That was actually a point that Nanya who also made
- 23:38in 2015 is he said, people are making a problem here because they're treating Iran like it's any
- 23:43other nation and they're just not. And a big part of that is this false religion that they're
- 23:50and false God that they're worshiping through Islam. And it's apocalyptic ideology that just wants
- 23:59to wreak havoc and terror. And it's obvious where that comes from. Obviously, Satan is the father of
- 24:04that. Satan hates the Jews. Satan hates that God has interwoven them into his plan of redemption
- 24:11for the world. He hates followers of Jews, obviously, because we're ambassadors for Christ and we're
- 24:20being salt and light in the world or at least we should be. But diplomacy was not an option with
- 24:29Iran. And there's such an irrational component there. Yeah. That word keeps coming up rational or
- 24:36irrational. Yeah. But by the way, thank you for ending your article. We're running out of time
- 24:41already. And you it's this is a good way for us to close or get close to closing here. Please
- 24:46remain in constant prayer about the situation friends for the protection in wisdom. Not only of
- 24:53our president and administration, but the nation of Israel, as well as our military leadership,
- 24:59as they continue to carry out operation epic fury. And then you quote first Peter 5, 8,
- 25:04be sober, be vigilant because your adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion walk off the
- 25:12bout seeking whom he made devour. Great way to close out the article and get our time together.
- 25:19But wrap us up in the last couple of minutes. Whatever thoughts you like to share.
- 25:22Well, praying for Israel, I think a lot of Christians don't understand that it's it's not just
- 25:30a suggestion. It's something that God calls us to do as Christians. We are called to love
- 25:36the Jewish people. We're called to pray for them and the nation of Israel. And right now they're
- 25:41facing coordinated strikes from Iran and Hezbollah. They're using Iran and Hezbollah are using
- 25:49cluster munitions, which are extremely deadly, where instead of having just a straight warhead,
- 25:55they have sub munitions that fire out indiscriminately from that. And they're a lot more difficult to
- 26:01shoot down by the Iron Dome. In fact, over 120 countries have banned the use of cluster munitions
- 26:08because of the problem with civilians being harmed as a result of them. But Iran doesn't care
- 26:15about that. They're specifically targeting the most popular areas. They're targeting Tel Aviv and
- 26:21Jerusalem. And so prayer is so incredibly important. And letting the Jewish people that you know
- 26:29know that you're praying for them and you're praying for the nation of Israel is also important.
- 26:33We need to be proper ambassadors for Christ by showcasing the actual love that God has for them.
- 26:40We need to not present them with the same version of Jesus that we see in replacement theology
- 26:46that you know, that presents Jesus as somebody who despises and rejects them. We need to show them
- 26:54that God loves them because it's and Jesus loves them and that Jesus is their promised Messiah
- 27:01and that we love them and support them as a result. That is what draws people. That's what draws
- 27:06Jewish people toward the gospel, toward wanting to know more and ask questions. So that's really
- 27:12important. Amen. Good way to wrap it up, Brianna. And by the way, friends, I didn't mention our
- 27:17conference yet in this episode. Brianna is going to come to Green Bay along with Alex Newman,
- 27:23Olivia Melnik, Tim Chaffey, Jay Seeger, Jake Jacobs, Gary Caw, Scott Shera, Mark and Amber Archer,
- 27:31Laura Perry Smoltz and Elijah Abraham. WorldviewMattersConference.com and go to HarbingersDaily.com.
- 27:40Brianna, Lord willing, we'll do this again. Thank you for your time. Yeah, thank you so much.
- 27:45God bless you, friends. And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter. See you next time.