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The Late Debate | 7 January · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Lake to Base. Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 1: I'm Free Leitch, joined by Holly Hughes and Claire Rowe.
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Speaker 1: Coming up tonight. Migrants are posting tutorials on social media
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Speaker 1: instructing people on how they can smuggle themselves illegally into
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Speaker 1: the UK. It's highly dangerous and is yet more evidence
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Speaker 1: that the UK's border.
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Speaker 2: Control is in tatters.
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Speaker 1: Plus top us immigration lawyers say that half of their
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Speaker 1: clients looking to access O one B visas these are
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Speaker 1: normally reserved for artists with extraordinary ability are going to
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Speaker 1: adult content creators and social media influences. Look, they may
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Speaker 1: make a lot of money, but I'm not exactly sure
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Speaker 1: that qualifies as extraordinary artistic ability. And women often complain
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Speaker 1: about officers being too cold while men don't even seem
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Speaker 1: to know. Turns out, ladies, we're not going crazy, and
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Speaker 1: there's actually a very interesting reason behind why women feel
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Speaker 1: colder in offices than men. But first, the last victim
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Speaker 1: of the Bondai massacre, Peter Meager, was farewell today at
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Speaker 1: a moving ceremony in Saint Mary's Cathedral. Noticeably, Anthony Albinizi
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Speaker 1: was there, but it was the first and only funeral
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Speaker 1: he attended after members of the Jewish community apparently communicated
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Speaker 1: to him that he shouldn't attend the others. And it's
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Speaker 1: just another reminder of how fresh this tragedy is.
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Speaker 2: We've seen so much.
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Speaker 1: Come out in terms of details around where the terrorists trained,
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Speaker 1: the ideology that motivated them, but we have to remember
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Speaker 1: we're not even one month on from this tragedy, and
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Speaker 1: it's so easy to get caught up in the politics
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Speaker 1: of it all. Will there won't there be a royal commission?
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Speaker 1: But it hasn't been even a month, and I think
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Speaker 1: we've just got to remember that this is still so
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Speaker 1: fresh and so heartbreaking.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting though, that the one funeral that Albaneze
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Speaker 3: could bring himself to attend was not for one of
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Speaker 3: the Jewish victims. And I think, you know, the fears
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Speaker 3: of rising anti Semitism and the angst that is felt
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Speaker 3: within the Jewish community, and their concerns that the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister isn't responsive to those concerns, to those fears not
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Speaker 3: only being.
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Speaker 4: Reinforced by hopefully what we're now going.
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Speaker 3: To see as a delay to calling the Royal commission,
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Speaker 3: but the fact that he didn't even bother to turn
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Speaker 3: up to any of the Jewish victims funerals when they
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Speaker 3: were occurring, and we'll go and see, you know, those in.
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Speaker 4: Hospital at the time.
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Speaker 3: And I just think it's indicative of this Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: and his inability to read the room, or whether there
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Speaker 3: is just such a latent underlying antisemitism through the Labor
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Speaker 3: Party that they can't help themselves.
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Speaker 1: Well, they're definitely could be that, and I think he's
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Speaker 1: finally starting to realize how much pressure he is under
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Speaker 1: to call a royal commission. Today we had Bob Brown,
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Speaker 1: one of the co founders of the Greens, come out
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Speaker 1: and definitely was open to a royal commission and said
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Speaker 1: he thinks Albo will cave Claire. But I honestly think
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Speaker 1: at this point, even if he does cave, the damage
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Speaker 1: is already done. You know, he doesn't want this, He'll
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Speaker 1: only call it because he feels he has to.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's the problem. And so I don't think even
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Speaker 5: when we're looking at the funeral issue, you know, whether
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Speaker 5: he went today, he was criticized. If he didn't have
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Speaker 5: gone today, he would have been criticized. So it's very hard.
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Speaker 2: How is he.
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Speaker 5: Going to some assault triple backflip out of this. Politically,
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Speaker 5: I don't see how he can, because, of course the
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Speaker 5: criticism will be that you're only doing this underpression now
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Speaker 5: that you don't really understand the root causes and the
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Speaker 5: need to do this Royal commission. And it's interesting you
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Speaker 5: mentioned Bob Brown there. Yes, co founder of the Greens
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Speaker 5: of course, but I think the Greens Party is not
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Speaker 5: the party that Bob Brown founded, and of course has
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Speaker 5: drifted so far away from that. So what Bob Brown
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Speaker 5: thinks is going to happen, I think I'm not going
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Speaker 5: to take as any indication of how the Greens Party votes.
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Speaker 5: I mean, this is the party that kicked out if
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Speaker 5: you remember there are the co founder Drew Hutton last
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Speaker 5: year on his stance on a transgender issue with kids.
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Speaker 5: This is the Greens Party that this week has come
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Speaker 5: out and called for cutting our ties with Orcus and
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Speaker 5: America in response to Venezuela. This is the very radical,
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Speaker 5: dangerous Greens Party and I think Bob Brown is far
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Speaker 5: from that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's also another debate that's come up today
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Speaker 1: and in the last couple of days around how we
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Speaker 1: best memorialize the BONDI site. Of course, the footbridge overlooking
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Speaker 1: the park where the two alleged shooters shot from.
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Speaker 6: Is still there, and there is a debate what should
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Speaker 6: we do with it.
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Speaker 1: I personally think to demolish it would be a disservice
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Speaker 1: to the victims. It should be turned into some sort
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Speaker 1: of memorial. But on the other hand, you then risk
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Speaker 1: this kind of morbid tourism where people go to take
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Speaker 1: photos at tragic places.
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Speaker 2: What do you think it look?
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Speaker 4: I think it should be memorialized.
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, the park, there's some talk about
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Speaker 3: rebranding at Matilda b and something to memorialize the victims,
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Speaker 3: and I think that's important. Even if you go over
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Speaker 3: to where the World Trade Centers were, there's a memorial.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's very much memorialized.
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Speaker 5: It's unhappitable at the Limb Cafe. Yeah, fights with the
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Speaker 5: flowers in the ground. So we can do something really
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Speaker 5: respectful like that.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what should be done, and it should be
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Speaker 3: there in perpetuity as a reminder of how this antisemitism
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Speaker 3: was allowed to flourish and how we must never, once
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Speaker 3: we hopefully get on top of it, allow it to
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Speaker 3: rear its head again. But you know, Unfortunately, today in
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Speaker 3: the City Morning Herald we saw a cartoon that I'm
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Speaker 3: sorry it was nothing but an anti Semitic trope. It
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Speaker 3: was absolutely abhorrent and you know, if you have a
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Speaker 3: look at it here, it's showing politicians and Gillian Siegel
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Speaker 3: and other leaders basically being accused of walking to the
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Speaker 3: beat of Benjamin ettan Yahoo's drum, which is a reflection
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Speaker 3: of a number of cartoons that we saw back before
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Speaker 3: World War Two. And you know, if anything symbolizes why
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Speaker 3: we need a Royal Commission into anti Semitism, the Sydney
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Speaker 3: Morning Herald showed it today and the fact that they
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Speaker 3: felt confident enough to publish that They've got a new editor,
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Speaker 3: Jordan Baker. I don't know if she's on leave or not,
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Speaker 3: and whether or not there was approval given for it,
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Speaker 3: but it's absolutely abhorrent that the Cydney Morning Herald has
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Speaker 3: been allowed to perpetuate these sorts of tropes in.
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Speaker 4: The environment that we're in.
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Speaker 3: And as I say, it absolutely demonstrates why this anti
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Speaker 3: semis and Royal Commission is required.
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Speaker 1: And we just had those images up on screen of
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Speaker 1: Nazi propaganda depicting something awfully similar instead of the Jews
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Speaker 1: being underneath holding up the supposed grassroots movement. They're above
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Speaker 1: pulling the strings of the puppets that they supposedly control.
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Speaker 1: This is a classic anti Semitic trope. If they had
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Speaker 1: put Benjamin Ettniyahu above pulling strings, that would have been
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Speaker 1: honestly straight out of the Nazi propaganda playbook. It is
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Speaker 1: so deeply offensive, and I mean to say that this
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Speaker 1: is even being driven by the Coalition and ultimately the
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Speaker 1: evil Zionists in Israel, is so out of touch with
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Speaker 1: the level of community anger. The majority of Australians support
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Speaker 1: a Royal commission because they don't want to see radical
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Speaker 1: Islamic terrorism take over our streets.
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Speaker 6: How is this a controversial thing?
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Speaker 5: It is absolutely reprehensible. I mean, if you have a
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Speaker 5: look at here, I assume what is underneath, You've got
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Speaker 5: figures like John Howard, just ininter Neeva, Jimba Price, even
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Speaker 5: Nadnyahu's set aside. There the idea, as we said last night,
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Speaker 5: that the Coalition are absolutely going to use their parliamentary
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Speaker 5: position to push for a Royal commission, as they should,
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Speaker 5: But the idea of using this as just a political
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Speaker 5: points scoring football is completely insulting to fifteen people that
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Speaker 5: were slaughtered. And as you said, I think a huge
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Speaker 5: proportion of the Australian public who are not politically engaged,
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Speaker 5: they don't care whether it's red or blue, who absolutely
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Speaker 5: support a Royal Commission and are not the puppets of
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Speaker 5: anyone or anything else.
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Speaker 3: No, it's just extraordinary but has been going on and
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Speaker 3: the fact that it continues to this day and there
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Speaker 3: are some organizations.
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Speaker 4: That's oblivious to it.
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Speaker 3: But unfortunately we might say that the new South Wales
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Speaker 3: Attorney General is also oblivious to the rise in anti
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Speaker 3: Semitism that we've seen. In light of one of his
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Speaker 3: recent appointments to the new South Wales Supreme Court, we've
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Speaker 3: now seen that Michael Day, the new South Wales Attorney General,
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Speaker 3: has appointed criminal silk Philip Bolton SC to the bench
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Speaker 3: of the New South Wales Supreme Court. Now, mister Bolton
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Speaker 3: may or may not be a fine lawyer. However, he
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Speaker 3: is someone who has a long association with the Labor
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Speaker 3: Friends of Palestine group, has written letters on behalf of them,
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Speaker 3: and who has commented on social media in a negative
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Speaker 3: way towards particularly Zioners. So his views are concerning to
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Speaker 3: say the least, but are also more so when you
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Speaker 3: think that this is someone who may be put in
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Speaker 3: charge of looking over some of the new legislation and
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Speaker 3: ruling on protests and ruling on the ability of those
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Speaker 3: things to go forward and what constitutes hate speech or
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Speaker 3: not when you've already got a demonstrated and I think
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Speaker 3: it'd be hard to say a demonstrated bias is pretty
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Speaker 3: obvious here that putting that in partiality into the rule
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Speaker 3: of law, I'm not sure i'd feel awfully confident going
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Speaker 3: into his court room.
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Speaker 1: This is a horrendous appointment. And by the way, I
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Speaker 1: don't think most people realize this. We think the US
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Speaker 1: has a very politicized judiciary, but the reality is it
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Speaker 1: really lies solely with the Attorney General to determine appointments
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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. This was Michael Daley's decision. This
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Speaker 1: was Labour's decision to appoint someone who has called Jillian Siegel,
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Speaker 1: Labour's anti Semitism envoy, a deplorable racist.
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Speaker 2: He has said Zionists just lie, lie, lie. I mean all.
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Speaker 1: Sorts of horrendous stuff on social media, and the idea
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Speaker 1: that right now, in the climate that we're in where
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Speaker 1: anti Semitism is a massive concern to our nation's security,
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Speaker 1: social cohesion, and you're going to point someone to the
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court who is openly very pro Palestine, strongly affiliated
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Speaker 1: with the Labor Party and the Labor pro Palestinian group,
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Speaker 1: and who has said deeply offensive things about prominent Jewish
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Speaker 1: Australians whose only crime is to fight anti Semitism at
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Speaker 1: the Labour's government's request.
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Speaker 7: That's the thing.
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Speaker 5: It's the timing, I mean is breathtaking. I don't think
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Speaker 5: that this is without presidents. I mean, of course the
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Speaker 5: impartiality of our judicial system, and that's what it rests
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Speaker 5: upon when barristers are promoted. You know, a lot of
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Speaker 5: them have in the past had histories of the King
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Speaker 5: Michael Kirby in the nineteen nineties that was not without controversy.
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Speaker 5: He was a very strong political figure, certainly in the
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Speaker 5: area of law, talking about international law and human rights
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Speaker 5: and so forth. And I think he even acknowledged later
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Speaker 5: on in his career that he had to be very
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Speaker 5: careful about not just does someone have the capability of
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Speaker 5: being impartial, but what does.
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Speaker 7: The public perceive?
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Speaker 5: And that is very very important because if you are
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Speaker 5: walking into a courtroom where you think that that matter
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Speaker 5: has already been decided, the judgment has already been given
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Speaker 5: before you walk in. That is going to undermine all
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Speaker 5: public confidence in the system. And as you said, this
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Speaker 5: comes at a time where one would think the new
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Speaker 5: South Wales courts at least will have an increase in
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Speaker 5: matters before them of people appealing the new protest laws
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Speaker 5: and hate speech laws.
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Speaker 3: And to be fair to Chrismians, I understand he has
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Speaker 3: called for a review into this decision, but it should
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Speaker 3: never have been made in the first place. And to
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Speaker 3: get it reversed it's got to go to both houses
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Speaker 3: of State Parliament, which is again an extra obstacle to
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Speaker 3: get anything like this reversed if they can. So it's
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Speaker 3: just a tone deafness that is really quite astounding to
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Speaker 3: see considering Chrismians. I mean, there's a few things I
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Speaker 3: think he's made missteps on. He's generally been pretty good
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Speaker 3: in this area.
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Speaker 5: He's coming out pretty quickly in saying that he will
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Speaker 5: look into it, so we will watch and wait with that. Well,
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Speaker 5: now that I moved to a story that has some
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Speaker 5: extraordinary footage, and that is that migrants over in the
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Speaker 5: UK are actually putting up what can only be described
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Speaker 5: as video tutorials. I kind of look at them as
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Speaker 5: what the travel vlog guide of how to smuggle yourself
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Speaker 5: across the Channel and into Britain. And they're doing that
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Speaker 5: by showing extraordinary footage that you can see there of
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Speaker 5: people running after lorries as they call them, I still
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Speaker 5: call them lorries in the UK, but trucks here running
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Speaker 5: after moving trucks and literally jumping onto them, hugely obviously
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Speaker 5: dangerous and that is how they're getting across the Channel
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Speaker 5: on these trucks into Britain at a time of course
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Speaker 5: where not just Britain but the West are really struggling
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Speaker 5: with immigration and these I mean they have been taken
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Speaker 5: down on some accounts, but it's the Internet. So once
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Speaker 5: they're up there, they're up there and you can have
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Speaker 5: a look at them. I don't think that this is
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Speaker 5: anything different to you know, age old time of people
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Speaker 5: putting themselves in extremely dangerous situations to be able to
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Speaker 5: get to new countries and start a new life or
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Speaker 5: But this is the problem when we have again the
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Speaker 5: Internet and social media, is that now they can film it,
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Speaker 5: they can post it, and it normalizes it and it
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Speaker 5: almost celebrates it.
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Speaker 1: Well, the fact that they have no shame, no in
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Speaker 1: posting it is what baffles me. Clearly, they don't think
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Speaker 1: there will be any repercussions from either the UK or
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Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are actually based in France
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Speaker 1: and cross the Channel through the tunnel or on boats,
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Speaker 1: and so they just clearly think there are absolutely no rules,
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Speaker 1: they will not get caught, and that just perfectly sums
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Speaker 1: up the state of the UK's border. But it's not
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Speaker 1: just limited to how to jump on a truck and
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Speaker 1: smell gul yourself across some other people. Smugglers use social
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Speaker 1: media to advertise their services. One was offering eighteen thousand
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Speaker 1: pounds to register as this second driver on a truck
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Speaker 1: so you could cross as the second driver and then
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Speaker 1: once you're in the UK, you're in the UK.
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Speaker 2: But this is endemic.
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Speaker 1: Holy, It's easy to find and it shows the laughable
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Speaker 1: state of the British border well.
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Speaker 3: And I think it should be a warning to us
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Speaker 3: because both the US and the UK we tend to
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Speaker 3: be sort of five or six years behind when you
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Speaker 3: look at what's happening in social trends, and the illegal
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Speaker 3: immigration is out of control.
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Speaker 4: Obviously Trump is putting his own stamp on.
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Speaker 3: Fighting that in the US, but Keirs Starmer seems to
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Speaker 3: be opening, you know, welcoming illegal immigrants with the hotel
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Speaker 3: accommodation and NHS. I mean, it's just I don't know
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Speaker 3: when the left will learn that if you keep having
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Speaker 3: these open door policies that you lead to so much
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Speaker 3: social division.
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Speaker 4: It creates social issues.
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Speaker 3: But you know, these people are putting their lives at
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Speaker 3: risk to try and get to Britain and then they're
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Speaker 3: going in as illegal immigrants.
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Speaker 5: So why wouldn't you when there's a hotel on offer,
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Speaker 5: three meals a day and access to the NHS. When
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Speaker 5: if you're born in Britain and you're a citizen, you
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Speaker 5: don't get those last stories if you're homeless.
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Speaker 3: No, well, I mean it's across the board, it's anywhere
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Speaker 3: in the West. We seem to have this ongoing conscience
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Speaker 3: of guilt that we have to somehow appease these illegal
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Speaker 3: immigrants and have some form of open borders. And you know,
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Speaker 3: we need to get our priorities right and get to
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Speaker 3: protecting our own countries. And if Britain doesn't wake up,
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Speaker 3: it's going to find itself in an increasing world of
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Speaker 3: paying more so than it is.
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Speaker 2: Already exactly right.
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Speaker 1: Well, sticking with immigration, in the US, they have a visa.
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Speaker 1: It is called the O one B visa. It was
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Speaker 1: actually created in the seventies because John Lennon was at
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Speaker 1: risk of being deported, so they created a visa for
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Speaker 1: artists with extra ordinary talent. Well, you'll never believe the
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Speaker 1: kind of artists that are qualifying for these visas these days.
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Speaker 1: Apparently a lot of them, a staggering amount of them
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Speaker 1: are going to porn stars, social media influences, and only
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Speaker 1: fans creators. Now, the biggest only fans.
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Speaker 2: Group is called the Bop House.
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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of girls that live together and make
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Speaker 1: explicit adult content. These are the kinds of people qualifying
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Speaker 1: for the OB one visa for.
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Speaker 6: Extraordinary artistic talent.
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Speaker 1: And here is some of their more safe for TV TALENTGG.
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Speaker 4: So bad.
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Speaker 1: Now these girls are making some of them a hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars plus.
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Speaker 7: Of I'm out of here. I'm going to put my pagiant.
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Speaker 1: Consider social media art. I mean, they're making a lot
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Speaker 1: of money, They're getting a lot of news.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's really art though.
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Speaker 3: Look can I tell you what that reminds me of,
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Speaker 3: Like when you were at school and your cousins came over.
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Speaker 4: And you put a dance together for the parents. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that's what that looked like. I mean, that was the
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Speaker 4: level of talent.
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Speaker 3: I mean, oh my god, seriously, what is wrong with
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Speaker 3: your generation crowd? I know, my gosh, that is I mean, look,
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Speaker 3: to be fair to John Lennon, you know, some of
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Speaker 3: the stuff that he and Yoko did maybe a little
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Speaker 3: on the risk a side. There were the new photographs
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Speaker 3: in them in bed together, So perhaps that's where they've
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Speaker 3: got a little bit of leeway on this visa. But
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Speaker 3: I just think it's extraordinary that, particularly the moral crusaders
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Speaker 3: going through US Congress, when you look at how their
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Speaker 3: campaigns are run and the values based campaigns they run,
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Speaker 3: When some people in Congress start to learn that this
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Speaker 3: is what the visa's being granted to, there might be
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Speaker 3: some tightening up of that.
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Speaker 5: You can hardly blame these guys though, I mean you
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Speaker 5: have to put the blame with who's approving the visa.
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Speaker 5: These guys can earn that much money and just do
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Speaker 5: that and get a visa for the US. It's hardly
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Speaker 5: their fault.
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Speaker 2: Good luck to them.
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Speaker 4: But look, this is just a missed calling. Do you think.
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Speaker 5: A cultural raw shark test that we are failing. It
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Speaker 5: is the absolute demise of beautiful architecture and art and
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Speaker 5: music and scientific discovery. Every time we hear of university
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Speaker 5: research grants doing nonsense, and you know, you just have
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Speaker 5: to think where it's going. And I can't look at
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Speaker 5: that but think I just want to get off.
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Speaker 4: And that's the problem asoid.
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Speaker 1: And there are only a limited amount of visas, and
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Speaker 1: this is a very competitive visa class, and so with
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Speaker 1: only fans and porn star creators are getting them, that
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Speaker 1: means there are some meritorious artists that are probably missing
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Speaker 1: out because they're not earning as much money because I
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Speaker 1: don't know, they actually create art, not just pornography.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think we should just leave them in America.
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Speaker 3: I don't think we need any of them back. But
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Speaker 3: speaking of performative art as some people may have referred
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Speaker 3: to it, when Pauline Hansen wore a burker into the
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Speaker 3: Senate before the chamber rose for the year in twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty five, Senator Hanson copped a seven day suspension for that.
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Speaker 4: It was called a stunt. She's done it twice before.
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Speaker 3: I have some sympathy for Pauline when she tries to
20:27
Speaker 3: do this because having sat in the Senate with her constantly,
20:33
Speaker 3: any motion that she puts up, regardless of its mirror,
20:35
Speaker 3: is blocked by the Greens and Labor and the so
20:38
Speaker 3: called Independence that always vote with the left wing parties
20:42
Speaker 3: in the Senate. And whether you like Pauline or not,
20:45
Speaker 3: she has a reasonable chunk of the vote and her
20:48
Speaker 3: support is increasing across the nation, and I do think
20:51
Speaker 3: it is fair that her views, her input in the
20:54
Speaker 3: motions that she puts up, should at least be given
20:56
Speaker 3: the respect to be debated. And yet again when she
20:59
Speaker 3: did call out for the burker to be banned, it
21:01
Speaker 3: was blocked in the Senate and no debate could take place.
21:04
Speaker 3: But she was then given a seven day suspension with
21:07
Speaker 3: the Fox horror that was then projected by leaders of
21:11
Speaker 3: all the major parties in the Parliament disrespecting the parliament.
21:15
Speaker 3: Senator Hanson's now written to Prime Minister Albanesi asking for
21:18
Speaker 3: that to be lifted so that when debate resumes as
21:21
Speaker 3: Parliament's recalled early with regards to the new hate laws
21:25
Speaker 3: that need to be debated, that she should be able
21:27
Speaker 3: to participate, And I get to say, I think that's
21:29
Speaker 3: fair enough. I think as democracy goes, a seven day
21:33
Speaker 3: suspension is one thing. But when you have an extraordinary
21:35
Speaker 3: circumstance that leads to extraordinary calling back of parliament early,
21:39
Speaker 3: any of those things I think should be lifted and
21:41
Speaker 3: every parliamentarian should be given the opportunity to speak, because
21:44
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, big chunk of Australians
21:46
Speaker 3: voted for her and deserve her voice to be heard
21:49
Speaker 3: in this debate, and it will be an increasing chunk
21:52
Speaker 3: of voters.
21:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.
21:54
Speaker 5: Look, I agree, I have some empathy for her. My
21:56
Speaker 5: frustration comes from the fact that, yes, I see that
22:00
Speaker 5: it was a performative stunt, but the conversation then moves
22:03
Speaker 5: from the public going, oh, there's Pa Pauline doing that thing,
22:06
Speaker 5: you know how disrespectful to a religious garment. But the
22:10
Speaker 5: conversation actually should have been that she was trying to
22:12
Speaker 5: protest that her bill she put up was not allowed
22:15
Speaker 5: to be debated.
22:15
Speaker 4: This debated up every bill absolutely.
22:19
Speaker 5: But then because then she does and does that, that's
22:22
Speaker 5: what makes the headlines and everyone just kind of rolls
22:24
Speaker 5: their eyes and goes, oh, there's Pauline doing that again.
22:26
Speaker 5: So that's frustrating. I want to ask, as the ex
22:29
Speaker 5: senator here, the suspension on her, that seven day suspension
22:34
Speaker 5: was obviously put on her by the Senate. She's ridden
22:36
Speaker 5: to the Prime Minister. Does he have that authority to
22:39
Speaker 5: intervene on disciplinary action. Look with the Senate, they're two
22:42
Speaker 5: separate houses.
22:43
Speaker 3: It would have to go well, it would have to
22:44
Speaker 3: go back to the Senate and the presiding offices. So
22:47
Speaker 3: the President of the Senate would have to then bring
22:49
Speaker 3: it back to the Senate. It would look not being
22:52
Speaker 3: sitting there with the you know, I don't have my
22:54
Speaker 3: Senate handbook and standing orders here anymore. But it would
22:57
Speaker 3: have to be revoted on by because the Senate voted
23:00
Speaker 3: for the suspension, so it would have to be lifted
23:02
Speaker 3: that way, unless it was considered a special joint sitting
23:05
Speaker 3: or something that occurred.
23:06
Speaker 1: I also just think it's really ironic that the bill
23:10
Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen was trying to put up was warning about
23:13
Speaker 1: the dangers of these face coverings, which I think is
23:16
Speaker 1: a very legitimate concern. Many countries around the world have
23:21
Speaker 1: banned the full face covering and then a couple weeks
23:24
Speaker 1: after that, we did have a radical Islamic terror attack
23:28
Speaker 1: that has rocked our nation. Now we've got the Parliament
23:31
Speaker 1: voting on a legislative response to that radical Islamic terror attack.
23:36
Speaker 6: But because she was too eager to call.
23:39
Speaker 2: It out and performed a.
23:40
Speaker 1: Stunts, she won't be able to vote on it. I mean,
23:43
Speaker 1: it does not make sense to me on any level.
23:46
Speaker 1: This is completely undemocratic. And also how many Greens MP's
23:52
Speaker 1: have worn a kefia into Parliament?
23:55
Speaker 6: How many times have they so?
23:57
Speaker 4: Sarah Hanson Young holding up the fish.
24:00
Speaker 6: And do they get suspended?
24:02
Speaker 2: Did they get removed from extant.
24:04
Speaker 3: Patrick used to come in dressed as a koala like Honestly,
24:07
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the days, there is
24:10
Speaker 3: a really strong anti Pauline sentiment and I have always
24:13
Speaker 3: been uncomfortable with the response through the coalition parties. Is
24:18
Speaker 3: their almost knee jerk reaction fear to support anything Pauline does.
24:23
Speaker 3: There were a number of motions she brought when I
24:25
Speaker 3: was there, one including with regards to babies born alive
24:29
Speaker 3: through the abortion.
24:29
Speaker 4: Process, which which occurs.
24:32
Speaker 3: It went to a conscience vote within the Liberal Party
24:35
Speaker 3: and you know there were a few of us that
24:37
Speaker 3: were there supporting Pauline and their book, colleagues of mine
24:40
Speaker 3: sitting opposite voting with the Greens and Labor saying when
24:44
Speaker 3: it came to her motion with regards to children being
24:47
Speaker 3: puberty blockers, it was blocked on that immediate sense, and
24:50
Speaker 3: again a conscience vote was given to the Liberals so
24:53
Speaker 3: that some could go and vote with Labor in the Greens.
24:56
Speaker 3: And I have always found that very und settling. I
24:59
Speaker 3: never liked it. I was hoping when Mikaylia came in
25:03
Speaker 3: as Leader of the Senate that she might have got
25:05
Speaker 3: tougher on the Parliamentary Senate team, that it wouldn't be
25:09
Speaker 3: a matter of conscience vote, that.
25:11
Speaker 4: Those sorts of principles and values is something that the
25:15
Speaker 4: Liberal Party does uphold.
25:17
Speaker 3: But there seems to be a knee joke reaction against Pauline,
25:19
Speaker 3: and I think it's backfiring on the coalition across the board.
25:23
Speaker 1: And it's just pathetic. But let's move on to some
25:25
Speaker 1: international news now. There was a break through meeting between
25:29
Speaker 1: a number of European countries, the Coalition of the Willing,
25:33
Speaker 1: and the United States where they signed an agreement that
25:36
Speaker 1: would effectively put British and French boots on the ground
25:40
Speaker 1: in Ukraine to support a cease fire if and when
25:45
Speaker 1: that gets signed. And interestingly, the US would also be
25:50
Speaker 1: there as a backstop to support the European troops. Now
25:54
Speaker 1: that is a remarkable concession from the US. There's been
25:58
Speaker 1: a lot of discussion around what would a security guarantee
26:01
Speaker 1: look like. I can't help but thinking the timing of this,
26:04
Speaker 1: Claire is interesting. Will Trump try to use this as
26:08
Speaker 1: a bit of a bargaining chip. I'm giving on Ukraine,
26:11
Speaker 1: so I want to take on Greenland. But at the
26:14
Speaker 1: end of the day, this is all still up in
26:15
Speaker 1: the air anyway, because Russia has not agreed to the ceasefire,
26:20
Speaker 1: and I think that also maybe pushing the US further
26:24
Speaker 1: because their authority is being undermined.
26:27
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I.
26:28
Speaker 5: Think it is a significant shift in Western policy when
26:31
Speaker 5: it comes to that area. At at the moment, as
26:34
Speaker 5: you said, you know, we are no c stop fire
26:37
Speaker 5: deal has been signed yet, so let's wait and watch
26:40
Speaker 5: for that. I think it underscores as well how fragile
26:45
Speaker 5: that diplomatic road to peace possibly is. We're not talking
26:48
Speaker 5: about boots on the ground that are going to be
26:50
Speaker 5: in combat. We're talking about reassurance and we're talking about
26:55
Speaker 5: some peacekeeping roles there as they set up these military hubs.
26:59
Speaker 5: And of course that's what KIV will be worried about
27:02
Speaker 5: with the ceasefire, is that they will be abandoned and
27:04
Speaker 5: left alone there. So I think that that's significant that
27:06
Speaker 5: these European countries Britain, France and with the support of US,
27:11
Speaker 5: are saying no, they have promised to still be there
27:14
Speaker 5: to ensure and that historically has what has made and
27:18
Speaker 5: helped cease fire deals last. So it is but it's
27:22
Speaker 5: an interesting point you make around Trump, particularly with the
27:25
Speaker 5: timing of everything going on in Latin America. He's come
27:29
Speaker 5: out with his rhetoric about we need Greenland and now
27:32
Speaker 5: he's promising to give a bit more support to Ukraine.
27:35
Speaker 3: Well, it'll be interesting to see, you know, with the weather.
27:38
Speaker 3: The NATO countries are arguing that it will be the
27:41
Speaker 3: end of NATO if Trump goes into Greenland. So I
27:44
Speaker 3: think we've got a lot in the political sphere internationally.
27:47
Speaker 1: To go and I hate to break to NATO, but
27:49
Speaker 1: I think they need the US more than the US
27:51
Speaker 1: needs them, So they're not really in a great position
27:54
Speaker 1: to be bargaining at the moment, but we're going to
27:57
Speaker 1: go to a break now and coming up after the break.
27:59
Speaker 1: If you're a woman in an office building, you have
28:03
Speaker 1: probably felt cold and wondered why all the men around
28:06
Speaker 1: you were totally fine. Turns out there is a very
28:09
Speaker 1: interesting reason for why we women are always cold.
28:17
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program.
28:18
Speaker 1: Well, it's the time of year when we all start
28:21
Speaker 1: heading back to the office after the Christmas and New
28:24
Speaker 1: Year's break. Most people will look at the weather app
28:27
Speaker 1: when determining what they were to work. But if you're
28:29
Speaker 1: a woman, you may have noticed, even though it's warm outside,
28:33
Speaker 1: offices seem to have never felt colder. The one thing
28:38
Speaker 1: I hate most than anything in the world is when
28:39
Speaker 1: it's cold outside, they jack up the temperature inside, and
28:42
Speaker 1: when it's hot outside they make it colder, and so
28:45
Speaker 1: you never know how to dress. But there's a new
28:48
Speaker 1: article out which actually explains why women constantly feel colder
28:54
Speaker 1: than men. These standard temperature settings for officers were developed
28:59
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, but they were based on a
29:03
Speaker 1: study of men in their forties weighing seventy kilos and
29:08
Speaker 1: wearing suits. Of course, since the sixties, the demographics of
29:13
Speaker 1: officers have changed. It's now around fifty percent women in
29:16
Speaker 1: most offices, so we don't relate to that. And also
29:21
Speaker 1: from a biological perspective, women tend to feel the cold
29:25
Speaker 1: more because we have a lower metabolic rate. Our hormones
29:28
Speaker 1: mean we feel cold more, and studies actually say that
29:32
Speaker 1: officers can be five degrees too cold for women. I'm
29:38
Speaker 1: not someone that likes to complain about sexism because I
29:41
Speaker 1: think mostly it's completely overblown. But this is an example
29:45
Speaker 1: where women are not being accounted for.
29:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not the only example too. I mean there
29:51
Speaker 5: are other examples, but with temperature one hundred percent. And
29:55
Speaker 5: these battlegrounds are at home too. Let me tell you,
29:58
Speaker 5: if I've lived with a man before, walking at home
30:01
Speaker 5: it is like Siberia and I'm I can be sitting
30:05
Speaker 5: on my couch now in a tracksuit and you know
30:09
Speaker 5: my uga boots on in summer because the air con
30:12
Speaker 5: is so cold. But there's a wonderful book I've read.
30:15
Speaker 5: It's called Invisible Women, and it goes through a whole
30:18
Speaker 5: heap of services and products and so forth that were
30:22
Speaker 5: actually data driven and designed around men. So, for example,
30:26
Speaker 5: car safety and crash testing you know, all the crash
30:29
Speaker 5: test dummies are made figured on a male pH zke
30:33
Speaker 5: and body, which actually leads women to be forty seven
30:36
Speaker 5: percent more likely to be injured in car crashes. And
30:40
Speaker 5: of course we know medical research and drugs as well.
30:45
Speaker 5: A few decades ago it was considered that hormones just
30:47
Speaker 5: complicated things, and yeah they do, so we don't really
30:51
Speaker 5: want to touch those. So most drug trials have been
30:54
Speaker 5: on men, leading to women having greater side effects an
30:58
Speaker 5: increase in overdosing. So there are multiple things in society,
31:01
Speaker 5: and I think that that, as you said, is an
31:04
Speaker 5: issue now because it's shifted that it is time ladies
31:07
Speaker 5: to reclaim the AIRCN and turn it off.
31:10
Speaker 3: Look, I'm just going to give a shout out twenty
31:12
Speaker 3: of the perimenopaus of women out there who actually enjoy
31:15
Speaker 3: the cool the temperature and actually feel a bit of
31:18
Speaker 3: reprieve and don't have to undress as much as they
31:21
Speaker 3: normally do in a normal temperature.
31:22
Speaker 4: So it's not all women.
31:24
Speaker 1: And look, I will say as well, it's probably easier
31:28
Speaker 1: to put on more clothes than to take off clothes.
31:31
Speaker 3: Certainly in enough, we're all sitting here at a slaveless
31:35
Speaker 3: outfit tonight because it's hot outside and I don't think
31:37
Speaker 3: we're too cold inside.
31:39
Speaker 2: Look, we're just standing up for the women here.
31:42
Speaker 3: Temperature perfect temperature misogyny. Some might say it's alive. Well,
31:49
Speaker 3: I've always had my doubts. But there's been a recent
31:52
Speaker 3: study that looks at teenage boys in particular, and around
31:56
Speaker 3: forty percent of Australian boys allegedly violent extremist ideologies, with
32:03
Speaker 3: more than a third having misogynistic attitudes towards women. And
32:08
Speaker 3: this is boys between thirteen and seventeen, And I just
32:12
Speaker 3: find this so disturbing that these are the attitudes that
32:17
Speaker 3: are being permeated. And there's things like Andrew Tate and
32:19
Speaker 3: the Internet that are obviously be blamed for permeating these
32:23
Speaker 3: kinds of views, but I think these views are also
32:26
Speaker 3: learned at home. And if you're not seeing respect at home,
32:30
Speaker 3: and you're not having those healthy relationships with both male
32:34
Speaker 3: and female, whether they're parents or parental figures or guardian figures,
32:40
Speaker 3: or just within your own everyday experience, and that's actually
32:44
Speaker 3: frightening to think that that number of kids may not
32:47
Speaker 3: be seeing healthy gender relationships being modeled in the home
32:52
Speaker 3: or in their broader community as well as whether it's
32:55
Speaker 3: the school environment. But I mean, obviously the Internet is
32:58
Speaker 3: playing a big role at there. I mean these Andrew
33:00
Speaker 3: tte and these sort of in cells. I mean, I'm
33:04
Speaker 3: not I don't understand the involuntary celibate. I can tell
33:08
Speaker 3: you why you're celibate is because you're an idiot, and
33:11
Speaker 3: you're rude and revolting and probably haven't showered very often
33:14
Speaker 3: and live in your mother's basement with a tinfoil hat.
33:16
Speaker 3: I can give you a few tips on how to
33:18
Speaker 3: improve with the women, but you know, these are just
33:21
Speaker 3: they're very strange subcultures. But if you look at this
33:25
Speaker 3: study as well, it actually looked to young girls to
33:28
Speaker 3: want their attitudes towards women, and they weren't particularly healthy either.
33:33
Speaker 4: And it's really worrying.
33:35
Speaker 3: To think that young girls have a negative image of
33:39
Speaker 3: women or themselves and that that will be something that
33:42
Speaker 3: will continue through adulthood. Is really a frightening, really frightening state,
33:48
Speaker 3: because where are they getting fed this information If they're
33:51
Speaker 3: not getting it modeled in the home.
33:52
Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of it is definitely coming
33:54
Speaker 1: from social media, and you do kind of see the
33:57
Speaker 1: most toxic examples of things. That's the stuff it gets views,
34:01
Speaker 1: whether it's toxic masculinity or toxic femininity. And I think
34:05
Speaker 1: that is a big challenge. We've put so much emphasis
34:09
Speaker 1: on how bad men are. You're capable of violence, you're
34:12
Speaker 1: going to mystery women, you're a danger to society, But
34:16
Speaker 1: we actually also have developed a toxic feminism as well,
34:20
Speaker 1: which says women are better than men, We don't need men.
34:23
Speaker 1: Men are good for nothing, useless slobs who are completely
34:29
Speaker 1: add nothing to society. If anything, they detract. And so
34:33
Speaker 1: I can understand why kids today are confused, conflicted, and
34:40
Speaker 1: falling into some of these distractive ideologies because, as you say.
34:44
Speaker 6: Holly, what are the examples for them?
34:47
Speaker 1: Where are they learning what healthy masculinity and healthy femininity
34:52
Speaker 1: looks like.
34:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, the issue of our boys and young men has
34:56
Speaker 5: been an increasing one now for a number of years.
35:00
Speaker 5: I think it was captured really well with that Netflix
35:03
Speaker 5: drama Last Year of Adolescence.
35:05
Speaker 7: I really liked that. I encouraged parents to have a
35:09
Speaker 7: look at that.
35:10
Speaker 5: Even if it is just skilling up in some of
35:12
Speaker 5: these language of in cells and the language that they
35:15
Speaker 5: hear online, you need to know about it. But our
35:17
Speaker 5: boys are lost, and I agree for with you, I think,
35:21
Speaker 5: but part of it is that when they're told so
35:24
Speaker 5: many times that they are the problem, that it is
35:27
Speaker 5: masculinity is toxic, and if you add to that, if
35:30
Speaker 5: you're a white male and all that comes with the
35:32
Speaker 5: guilt of being a white male and privilege, at some
35:35
Speaker 5: point they're going to say, well, fine, that's who I am,
35:39
Speaker 5: and they're going to lean into that culture. And of
35:41
Speaker 5: course there are many platforms now just sitting there waiting
35:45
Speaker 5: and dark corners of the web to encourage that.
35:49
Speaker 7: So it is a big problem.
35:50
Speaker 5: I think that they're lost in their identity, they're lost
35:53
Speaker 5: in their role. You know, men these days, in terms
35:58
Speaker 5: of their masculinity in relation to women, have really lost
36:03
Speaker 5: what it means to be a good man. And you know,
36:05
Speaker 5: even the idea that we have that we'd toxic before them.
36:09
Speaker 5: I mean, masculinity in itself is a positive thing. It
36:12
Speaker 5: shouldn't always been associated with a bad thing. And I agree,
36:15
Speaker 5: I think it has become like that, and I think
36:18
Speaker 5: women have to take responsibility.
36:20
Speaker 7: For our role in that.
36:22
Speaker 5: So it is worrying as someone who's raising a young
36:25
Speaker 5: boy and you're raising young men, holy I do consider
36:29
Speaker 5: that and how we can portray those healthy relationships.
36:32
Speaker 3: What about the young women. I'm just going to ask
36:34
Speaker 3: you to put your child's psychology.
36:36
Speaker 4: Hat on here.
36:37
Speaker 3: That young girls have this distrust of women, have these
36:41
Speaker 3: feelings towards women, It just seems to me so dangerous
36:45
Speaker 3: that women, that girls are growing up not even trusting
36:49
Speaker 3: their own sex and their own identity.
36:51
Speaker 5: I honestly think it's just a whole heap as you said,
36:54
Speaker 5: of confusion. I think what the internet does is provide
36:58
Speaker 5: a whole information to everyone, and for every view that
37:02
Speaker 5: you'll get, you'll get a counterview, you'll get radical views
37:05
Speaker 5: in there, you might get a sensible view, but you're
37:08
Speaker 5: consuming all of it all day. In our brains weren't
37:11
Speaker 5: meant to do that. We've never consumed information. I call
37:14
Speaker 5: it like drinking from the fire hose. Every day. We're
37:18
Speaker 5: consuming this and our brains weren't meant to do that.
37:20
Speaker 5: So they're hearing all these messages and they're not just
37:23
Speaker 5: being allowed to grow up in a normal developmental way.
37:28
Speaker 5: But sticking with that topic of men, three women on
37:31
Speaker 5: the panel, I know we like to talk about them.
37:34
Speaker 5: This is interesting because there's an article out and some
37:37
Speaker 5: studies out that show. Well, the article is actually titled
37:41
Speaker 5: the Young and the Dateless why Jen said and millennial
37:45
Speaker 5: men aren't approaching women anymore? And so it goes on
37:50
Speaker 5: to talk about these men who quote and say that
37:53
Speaker 5: they are terrified now of talking to women, and researchers
37:57
Speaker 5: have determined that they have this person exception that they
38:01
Speaker 5: may be labeled as or seen as creepy, and so
38:04
Speaker 5: that actually prevents them from approaching women. I one hundred
38:08
Speaker 5: percent agree with this. This is happening. I have spoken
38:11
Speaker 5: to men of various ages. This is not a young
38:14
Speaker 5: male thing. This is middle age or older men who
38:17
Speaker 5: say they're so worried about sexual harassment that they're actually
38:22
Speaker 5: questioning themselves and doubting where is the line between, you know,
38:27
Speaker 5: approaching a woman in a bar or in a public
38:29
Speaker 5: situation now and the good old pickup line or some flirtation,
38:34
Speaker 5: which is how relationships start most of the time. They're
38:38
Speaker 5: so worried that that will be interpreted as harassment they'd
38:41
Speaker 5: rather just not. And of course, I think the other
38:43
Speaker 5: part to that is we now do have generations that
38:47
Speaker 5: are growing up and experiencing relationships behind a screen, and
38:51
Speaker 5: they are just liking, and their messages even are just
38:55
Speaker 5: coming down to a few words and emojis or they're swiping,
38:58
Speaker 5: and so we are not having generations brought up with
39:02
Speaker 5: the skills to be able to talk even to the
39:04
Speaker 5: same sex, let alone the opposite sex. But I absolutely
39:08
Speaker 5: think that this is a real an emerging thing, and
39:10
Speaker 5: I think that it will culturally shift the way relationships
39:15
Speaker 5: are formed. And interestingly, I talk to a lot of
39:17
Speaker 5: single friends, middle aged women who are single and fellas.
39:21
Speaker 5: They tell me, we want you to approach us. Why
39:24
Speaker 5: are they coming to talk to us when we're out
39:26
Speaker 5: for a girls' night And so girls are saying we
39:29
Speaker 5: want men to talk to us. Boys are saying I
39:31
Speaker 5: don't think they do, and no one's talking or communicating.
39:34
Speaker 3: But I think there's a lot of concerns to around
39:37
Speaker 3: consent laws and fear around and we've seen that has
39:41
Speaker 3: occurred accusations and obviously in New South Wales we've had
39:45
Speaker 3: a very enthusiastic DPP in taking a lot of cases
39:48
Speaker 3: forward that in any other instance would never have been
39:51
Speaker 3: put forward, of claims that have been either thrown out
39:55
Speaker 3: or found to have been false or malicious through the
39:59
Speaker 3: court system that you know, a guy does go out
40:02
Speaker 3: with someone, doesn't call them back the next day or whatever,
40:05
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they're hit with some sort
40:07
Speaker 3: of accusation. And so there's a lot of concerns out
40:10
Speaker 3: there and worry around consent and how because it's so
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Speaker 3: very very much he said, she said, she can be
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Speaker 3: too drunk, he can't be. Is sort of basically the
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Speaker 3: premise of the law, and it's all of these things
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Speaker 3: that go around it that are making it much more
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Speaker 3: difficult for.
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Speaker 7: Me in these days going down seriously.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you though, if anyone's looking for
40:31
Speaker 3: single men, there are plenty out and right all near
40:33
Speaker 3: my heart, both all age groups, and they keep asking
40:36
Speaker 3: me if I'm going to bring the girls out. So
40:38
Speaker 3: there's a few of our Sky News presenters I know
40:40
Speaker 3: they think are quite lovely.
40:42
Speaker 4: So there's plenty of.
40:43
Speaker 3: Opportunities out there, but there's you know, it is really
40:45
Speaker 3: difficult for people to meet each other now.
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Speaker 1: And the big challenge is that I think a lot
40:49
Speaker 1: of the social behavior that was kind of just an
40:53
Speaker 1: expected It was manners like you kind of knew how
40:56
Speaker 1: to operate.
40:57
Speaker 2: In social situations.
40:58
Speaker 1: Before there was way you could be polite and courteous,
41:02
Speaker 1: and there was a way you could approach a woman
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Speaker 1: and ask her to go on a date. Now, young people,
41:07
Speaker 1: we just don't know that it works.
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Speaker 4: It was never that courteous, but we were.
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Speaker 7: No you knew how to get through it.
41:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it was a.
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Speaker 3: Lot, but there was there was so shorts maybe, but
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Speaker 3: it was also there were there were ways to handle
41:23
Speaker 3: yourself in hand.
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Speaker 7: We didn't really take offense to it, no, I said.
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Speaker 3: We just my generation don't get offended by a lot
41:30
Speaker 3: of this stuff. And I think that's where we've seen
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Speaker 3: a lot of change too. That you know, people are like, well,
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Speaker 3: you know, they get offended or they're they're you know,
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Speaker 3: taken aback by things that it's like, oh my god,
41:41
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have.
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Speaker 4: Survived ten minutes in a bar in might act.
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Speaker 1: And it should be a compliment anyway. I don't really
41:46
Speaker 1: understand why people get trust me.
41:48
Speaker 4: When people stop asking you out of that's when you
41:52
Speaker 4: should get depressed.
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Speaker 1: Exactly right, Well, let's move on. Someone else speaking of depression.
41:57
Speaker 1: Was this landlord when he went for a route inspection
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Speaker 1: of his property only to discover that half of his
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Speaker 1: backyard was missing. He texted the tenant and said, I
42:10
Speaker 1: have a slight concern. I was at the property this
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Speaker 1: morning for an inspection and my garden is half the size.
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Speaker 2: What happened, please?
42:18
Speaker 1: And then the tenant responds to him and says, oh,
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Speaker 1: I let them have it.
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Speaker 2: You let them have what the bit of the garden?
42:26
Speaker 2: What do you mean you let them have it? They
42:28
Speaker 2: are asked, So, what's happened here?
42:31
Speaker 1: Is the tenant the next door neighbors have gone to
42:34
Speaker 1: the tenant and asked for more yard space, and so
42:38
Speaker 1: the tenant, without consulting with the landlord, has gone ahead
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Speaker 1: and moved the entire back fence to half the size
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Speaker 1: of his yard and give extra space to the tent
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Speaker 1: to the neighbors.
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Speaker 4: I just love this hilarious. It just can't be true,
42:54
Speaker 4: but it is. But I mean, how stupid is this
42:58
Speaker 4: woman to just go, oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Using you can hold up that was I mean, honestly,
43:05
Speaker 3: it's breathtaking.
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Speaker 4: But we wonder why there might be a shortage of
43:08
Speaker 4: rentals in the market, because why would you be.
43:11
Speaker 3: A landlord when this is the kind of behavior that
43:13
Speaker 3: goes on. I mean, it's just it's breathtaking that this
43:16
Speaker 3: woman thought it was just okay.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't using it, so I moved the face.
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Speaker 1: She was just considerate and thoughtful. It was just doing
43:23
Speaker 1: a nice thing for the neighbors.
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Speaker 5: These are just a radical socialists and it's all here
43:28
Speaker 5: to share everyone's as everyone's you know what yours is mine?
43:31
Speaker 5: And can you imagine getting the message from you know
43:35
Speaker 5: and your your tenants saying yeah, I just gave it
43:39
Speaker 5: to them. You think you were being pumped. I mean,
43:41
Speaker 5: this cannot be real.
43:43
Speaker 4: Honestly, it can't be real at all.
43:45
Speaker 3: But you know, obviously sharing is caring, and some people
43:49
Speaker 3: have now figured out how to make a bit.
43:50
Speaker 4: Of money out of their backyard pool.
43:53
Speaker 3: There's a woman in Durrell who's now earning around ten
43:56
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year from leasing out her backyard pool.
44:01
Speaker 3: The pool is around fifty meters from her house and
44:04
Speaker 3: she's got a lot of her family, her kids and
44:06
Speaker 3: her parents living with her out at Dyrall and they
44:09
Speaker 3: are making ten thousand dollars a year hiring it out
44:12
Speaker 3: by the hour for groups of people to come and
44:15
Speaker 3: use it. She's got a regular guy who comes and
44:17
Speaker 3: uses it for an hour of a morning, and then
44:19
Speaker 3: she said she's also got some women who wear hejabs
44:21
Speaker 3: that are looking for somewhere that's culturally appropriate, sensitive private
44:25
Speaker 3: for them to be able to go swimming. I mean
44:27
Speaker 3: it's an extraordinary way to make money. It's a bit
44:29
Speaker 3: of a side hustle. And I mean personally, if you're
44:32
Speaker 3: happy to have someone trapsing through your backyard, notod on
44:35
Speaker 3: nick Well.
44:35
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense right because it's fifty dollars
44:38
Speaker 1: for an hour for five people. If you take a
44:41
Speaker 1: family of five to even a council swimming pool, it
44:45
Speaker 1: can cost you twenty twenty five dollars easily, and then
44:49
Speaker 1: you're sharing with all these people.
44:50
Speaker 2: It's uncomfortable.
44:52
Speaker 1: I think this makes complete sense, and it is part
44:55
Speaker 1: of this broader trend of airbnb uber now renting out
44:59
Speaker 1: your SA. If you have excess space and you're not
45:02
Speaker 1: using it, why not make a bit of money it is.
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Speaker 7: I think there are apps for this.
45:06
Speaker 5: I actually think there are apps that you can put
45:08
Speaker 5: your swimming pool onto and it is part of the
45:10
Speaker 5: share economy. And every single summer in this heat, it
45:14
Speaker 5: gets to the point where I say, should I get
45:16
Speaker 5: a loan, should I build the pool? Should I put one?
45:19
Speaker 5: And I've got a backyard I've got kids. Should I
45:21
Speaker 5: do the pool? It'd be great. I'm not going to
45:23
Speaker 5: clean the pool and I've got to, you know, have
45:26
Speaker 5: the maintenance of it. So I would be someone who
45:28
Speaker 5: would absolutely just pop next door to my neighbors and
45:31
Speaker 5: rent their pool, or perhaps move the fence, yeah a
45:33
Speaker 5: little bit over now.
45:35
Speaker 3: You know what you can do is put the fence
45:37
Speaker 3: halfway stuck through the pool.
45:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's you know that's sharing the pool.
45:41
Speaker 1: And look to be fair, you could rent a lot
45:43
Speaker 1: of pools before you make up one hundred thousand dollars
45:45
Speaker 1: from having to build one yourself. But just quickly before
45:48
Speaker 1: we go to a break. Australia is facing new driving rules,
45:52
Speaker 1: New year, new rules and laws. One of the key
45:56
Speaker 1: changes will be for older drivers. From now on, you'll
46:00
Speaker 1: have to have a mandatory medical assessment if you're over
46:05
Speaker 1: the age of seventy five, and an annual driving check
46:10
Speaker 1: over the age of eighty. Now, my husband's grandfather is
46:16
Speaker 1: I think ninety eight and was driving until about two
46:20
Speaker 1: months ago when the family finally confiscated the keys.
46:24
Speaker 6: But this is a real consultant.
46:26
Speaker 3: High I actually think this is really good and you know,
46:30
Speaker 3: my son Fredo, I remember him saying to my dad, Jeez, Poppy,
46:35
Speaker 3: you're a terrible driver. And that was at the point
46:38
Speaker 3: that I decided, like, none of us were getting in
46:40
Speaker 3: the car with my father anymore. I can say this,
46:42
Speaker 3: God rest his soul. But not long before he died,
46:45
Speaker 3: we were having he and I were having arguments because
46:48
Speaker 3: he had had an accident and his license was suspended
46:51
Speaker 3: and he shouldn't have been driving anymore.
46:52
Speaker 4: And I quite like.
46:53
Speaker 3: This that there's actually, you know, like you talk about
46:56
Speaker 3: the social media ban, for those of us who've got
46:59
Speaker 3: parents at the old if there is a legislative framework
47:02
Speaker 3: that says, listen, you can't just keep driving, I think
47:05
Speaker 3: it'll be helpful for those the kids that are trying
47:08
Speaker 3: to manage the elderly parents transition out of some of
47:11
Speaker 3: the things they like to do.
47:12
Speaker 1: Exactly right, Well, let's go to a break now. Coming
47:15
Speaker 1: up after the break, more Harry and Meghan drama. This
47:18
Speaker 1: time a new book has revealed exactly what the.
47:21
Speaker 2: Queen thought of them before she passed away.
47:27
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Well, a new book is revealing more details
47:31
Speaker 1: of exactly what the late Queen Elizabeth thought of Harry
47:35
Speaker 1: and Meghan before her death. While she wished them well
47:39
Speaker 1: in public. Behind the scenes, it's alleged she was completely
47:43
Speaker 1: sick of them, so much so that she pawned off
47:46
Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan's phone calls to Prince Charles, who was
47:50
Speaker 1: also I can imagine, quite annoyed. In fact, he apparently
47:54
Speaker 1: said I'm not a bank because a frequent topic of
47:58
Speaker 1: discussion was Harry swearing.
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Speaker 2: At him and asking for money. Holly, are we surprised,
48:05
Speaker 2: Not at.
48:05
Speaker 3: All, Not at all, And I mean it's just typical
48:09
Speaker 3: of the behavior. We've seen it from Megan and Harry
48:11
Speaker 3: for the longest period of time. You know, I just
48:15
Speaker 3: this book after book after book keeps coming out about them.
48:19
Speaker 3: There's not even anything really new, you know, they're just
48:22
Speaker 3: revolting and obnoxious.
48:24
Speaker 4: But speaking of obnoxious vegans.
48:27
Speaker 3: With you know, do you do you know, when you
48:32
Speaker 3: do CrossFit you're a vegan?
48:33
Speaker 4: What do you tell people first?
48:35
Speaker 3: But now Mercedes has got in on this with the
48:38
Speaker 3: first vegan ev I mean, how painful do the people
48:43
Speaker 3: need to be that choose the vegan option?
48:46
Speaker 4: Get leather in your car, people?
48:48
Speaker 3: But no, in the PC woke world we live in,
48:51
Speaker 3: we now have not only people who won't go through
48:54
Speaker 3: an animal product for their food source. They now won't
48:56
Speaker 3: have it in their car, So Mercedes of cowtout them
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Speaker 3: and have created a vegan Eva.
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Speaker 7: You could just imagine smugnus.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: The thing with the vegan leather stuff though, is it's
49:08
Speaker 1: just plastic.
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Speaker 6: They try to brand it is vegan leather.
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Speaker 3: No, no, that's not leather, that's just plastic, petrochemical.
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Speaker 1: Chemical Mercedes, Well that's it from us. Have a great evening.