Latest / The Skol Hop / Vikings Defense Does It All, Evan Eats Spicy Things, Keep Flores! | TSH Ep. 120

Transcript

Vikings Defense Does It All, Evan Eats Spicy Things, Keep Flores! | TSH Ep. 120 · The Skol Hop

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: of The School Hop. I'm Evan, I'm Austin. We're just
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: and talking about the Vikings.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And this Vikings defense impressed like crazy
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: on Christmas Day.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: The offense, however, did not, but they still got the
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: job done. The Vikings won the.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Game, and so did this beer definitely got the job done.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: It was the Tellurian Nectar of the galaxies. Hazy ipa.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: I liked it a lot, delicious beer. We also had
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: some really juicy talkers on not just this Vikings game
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: against the Lions on Christmas Day, but even looking ahead
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: to the Vikings coaching staff. And might I just add,
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores please stay with.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: The Vikings absolutely so. If you're if you're ready for
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: the School Hot Episode one, grab a cold one and
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: join us.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: It's cool, It's cool, m all right. We're gonna give
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: just a quick shout out to that's badass Woodard. Uh.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: We've got a small piece of theirs here. This is
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: one of their most popular pieces, so they're a cold
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: piece with the in the oh is the little cutout
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: of the state of Minnesota. But we've got a piece
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: on commission right now, probably being made as we speak,
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: hopefully will be here in the new year, I'm assuming.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: And we're just big fans of their work. They do
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: really good work, and uh, you can get your very
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: own that's badass wood art. It doesn't have to be
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: Vikings themed. They do all sorts of things. They do
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: nonsports things, they do pop culture references, and it'd be
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: perfect for the man cave, for the movie theater, for
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: whatever you're looking to get some custom would art done
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: for your house. And we've got a promo code for you.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: If you type in our promo code sko l Hop
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: that's skull hop one word, you're gonna get ten percent
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: on any in all orders from that's badass word art.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: And we would say they do pretty good work. We
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: can see it right here in front of us, and
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: we're excited to get our very own custom piece here
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: very soon. Yeah.
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: I think I know what the next piece I'm gonna
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: order for myself is gonna be.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: I see you looking at it right now.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: It's titled Disgusting Act. It features a very prominent former
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: Vikings wide receiver in a very famous pose that he
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: did towards Packer fans one time. You should go to
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: That's badasswoodart dot com and check that one out. That's
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: the next one I'm going to be buying for myself.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: It's just awesome. I think that that'll go very nicely
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: in the main cave. But yeah, thank you, that's badass.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: What are Yeah?
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: So we haven't had to do this in a while. Yeah,
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: I gotta spin the wheel.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: Yes you do, and I haven't had to do it
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: in a long time. We talked about it last week.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think we looked it up. The last time
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: either of us had to spin, but I think it's
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: when we had to wear jerseys. But yeah, this is
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: the first time a solo spin has happened at all. Evan,
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: you just had no faith in the Vikings going up
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: against the Lions in the preseason, because that's, of course
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: when we make these picks, is the preseason, right before
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: the season starts. You thought the Vikings would lose to
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: the Lions. Oh ye, of little faith. That's okay, because
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: last episode you predicted a win over the Lions thirty one.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: Nothing that was correct.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: I was kind of close.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, twenty three Yeah, not too far off at all.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: But Evan, go ahead, Uh, why don't you spend that wheel?
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to preview the options because we're
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: down to just I could wear the fake beard, which
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: I think you had to do last year.
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: I did, and it it like velcrowe to the the
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: regular beard.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: I don't have that problem.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: It was really warm and itchy and uncomfortable.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: So there's that. I could drink my beer, which we'll
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: get to the beer here in a minute, out of
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: a sippy cup.
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: Hilarious.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: We did out of silly straws last year.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: I think, and I think we both had to do it, right,
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: we did.
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this would be me on my own. I
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: could eat something spicy. We've got some spicy nuts of
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: some sort, So there's that.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you I had something spicy last year, and I
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: think I did, like a big, huge ye.
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: And I enjoy spicy.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: Food, so it wasn't that bad for you. It was
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: still a little bit. This will be bad for me. Yeah,
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. And beer makes spicy things worse. Yeah, it might.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: You know, we might have to take a break for
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: you to go.
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: Get some book or something. Yeah, okay, So there's that one,
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: and then the last one is get sting ponged, which
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: we still don't have ping pong paddles, but we've got
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: like books, we have the ping pong balls. We'll figure
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: that one out.
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: Like I'm kind of hoping we don't land on that
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: just logistically, I don't know how it's gonna work. I'd
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: almost rather shoot you with a bb gun.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: Again, Well that's an option too. We could we could
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: call an audible if we need, if we need.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm excited for most of these.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I will be eating something spicy. Yes,
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: all right, it's closer to you, so you're gonna have
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: to pull this out and we'll see how this goes.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not excited about this at all. These are blue
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: Diamond Almonds, Extremes Carolina Reaper, and it says with four
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: flame emojis next to it, hottest. Yeah.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: I will be taking whatever you don't eat home because
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of excited for that. I might even eat
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: one or two right now with you, just in solidarity.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to determine how much I eat.
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: I think we can we can fairly decide together. How
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: much you eat? Now, last year I did, it was
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: like the lid of the jar full of halopanos. I
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: don't think this is like a two inch lid here.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need to fill this lid. But
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know an almond. You know, it's regular sized almond.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: What do you think I think we can come up
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: with a good It's gonna be punishing.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: You put in my hand what I should eat, and
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: I will eat it.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: All right, let's just pour it all now, just kidding,
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: all right, we'll be fair.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: That's about that's eight almonds.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: Should we make it an even ten?
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: Ten almonds? And then I'll eat a few with you,
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: just in solid.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: Let me eat mine first to truly appreciate the punishment
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: aspect of it, okay, and then we'll go from there. Yeah,
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: I am nervous almonds? Are you have to chew almonds
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: like I can't, just like you swallow them like pills.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: I'll do the narrating, okay, kind of like you did
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: when I had to do the the cinnamon challenge. Maybe
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: I'll ask you some yes or no questions and kind
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: of tell the audience what your antswer.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: They don't smell super spicy.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: But I don't think it's gonna be that bad. I
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: think you're gonna be like, you're gonna have a couple
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: of minutes of like whoo, but then like you'll be fine,
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I really think, And then I will. I've got four
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: of them here for myself after you do yours, so
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: you're ready whenever you're ready. All right, they're in. You're chewing,
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: oh instantly. Oh man, the face you can hear them.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: He said that's hot. He's not joking. Evan actually doesn't
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: enjoy spicy.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be coughing.
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: You're probably salivating. Is this one of the My.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Mouth is on fire right now? There's bad?
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: Well, is this as spicy of anything you've ever eaten before?
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: The eyes are red, there's some watering going on. Oh man,
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: all right, well just for that, I'm gonna do an
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: even five good punishment. Yeah, the tears are starting a
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: little bit. Not bad, not bad. You're you're you're taking it.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's going.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: Well, they're down, but it's like it's still in my mouth.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it only took you about two or three
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: choose before your face immediately.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like every time you breathe in it
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: just keeps coming.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: Some of these heat stuff, it like intensifies as the
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: minutes go on. So this could this could get worse.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: We might not have seen the peak here yet.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: I'm still crying.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: Careful by the eyes, especially with the hand that had
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: those in them.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: I think I'm good that way. All right, I'm wiping
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: with the backside of my head. Yeah, that's still is
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: on the inside of my hand.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: I think that would be worse getting it in your eyes.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we might need to take a water break, all right?
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, uh are are you glad to have it
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: over with?
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Is it starting to get you know, the same? It
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: has it intensified anymore.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Though only when I breathe.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So you're probably at the peak and it'll
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: just get better and better as you go. But if
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: you need, you got the tears in your eyes and
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: your eyes are definitely red. This is not a fake reaction.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: I want to I mean absolutely I will. So you
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: did ten and it's not a punishment, but I'll do five.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be spicy. I'm still probably gonna go like, oh,
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: but you're already you're coming down. I can tell you.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: You won't react to the way I did.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: Your forehead does have a little glisten to it.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Then I'm sweating a little bit.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, just a little glisten.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: All right. It cleared out my sinuses. Oh you like those?
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the heat's there.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: They're all yours.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: So I will be taking these home. Yeah, those are
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: really good if you enjoy spicy things. Not sponsored, but
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: these blue Diamond Carolina Reapers are really good.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're really good.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: You also had twice as many as I had, and uh,
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: Maranda tells me all the time, my taste buds are broken,
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: so that's true.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take a quick time out, get
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: some water. Yep, I'll be right back.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: All right, I only did five, so I'm gonna do
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: another five here while he's getting his, uh, his milk
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: because it was too hot for him. But then, who knows,
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: maybe just throughout the episode, I'll keep eating them. So
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: here we go. They really are pretty good. I am
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: going to be getting these on the regular from now on.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say they're very spicy though.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm back. I got some milk. The milk
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: helps a lot.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it usually does. Milk is a good cool down.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: I've even seen, like people who eat spicy things competitively
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: what they do afterwards when they're like allowed to you know,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: cool down. They eat like ice cream because it also
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: helps with the mouth and then like the inside of
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: this stuff too.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, those are a spicy. Like I'm not kidding
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: when I tell you I don't eat spicy stuff Like
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: medium salsa gets me gone, give me mild salsa, or
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: give me nothing like. I don't want anything to do
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: with anything spicy. The spiciest wings at bedubs that I.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Go for don't say honey barbecue.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Honey barbecue, that's crazy. Which oddly enough, parmesan garlic is
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: considered less spicy than honey barbecue, but I disagree. I
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: think parmesan garlic is more spicy.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Oh I've never gotten any those from either of those.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Those are my two go tos, honey barbecue and parmesan garlic.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I like those a lot, and I dip the crap
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: out of them.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: And Ranch, you're not a blue cheese guy or blue cheese.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: I like Ranch a little more a little bit more
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: than blue cheese.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: But all right, If I'm not careful, I'm gonna end
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: up eating this old jar. You might as well crack
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: our beers, so I'll put the lid back on. Maybe
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: if I get hungry throughout the episode, all go for
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: it more.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: You bottom, So I ate ten. That's all that I
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: will eat. It comes off the wheel. We should look
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: really quick and see what the uh what we have
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: to do for next week? So next week week eighteen packers.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: You said they'd win, I said they'd win. So the
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Vikings win, we don't spin. If the Vikings lose, we both.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: That could have been our last spin of the season.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Although I think we could play around with this. We
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: could like pick playoff games even though the Vikings aren't
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: in it. We could we could still do something if
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: we really wanted to. But I'm proud of you. You
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: don't do spicy. You did some spice. I think ten
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: is more than fair. That's a good amount.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: I also don't drink a whole lot of milk anymore
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: because it kind of messes with my stomach. Oh, but
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I need it right now, like and I like milk.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's mess with your stomach some more
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: by giving it some delicious beer.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Let's go drink some beer.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Beer is good, all right, ev you brought the beer tonight.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I haven't had it before, I don't think, but it
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: looks pretty exciting.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: It's a Tillurian brewing out of Charles City. We had
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: like one or two of theirs, I think, mm hm,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: And I thought of you when I saw for several reasons.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: One it's a hazy ipa. Two it's six point nine
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: percent three nice. The can art was really cool and
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: stood out to me. So you comment on those things
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like, this is a beer. Awesome.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I'd like yeah, and I'm sure I'll like it too.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: So you know, I heard something interesting. Do you know
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: why they have beer at this brewery?
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Is it Tilui?
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably the first time that joke has been
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: successfully told on our show. I've tried like three or
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: four times, So yeah, Tilurian. I'm excited for this one.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Nectar of the Galaxies.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: My beer didn't open very well.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not a good omen didn't work.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Well, that's all right, we'll figure it out.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: We got it, oh Man. Definitely looks like a nice
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: hazy ipa. Evan, you had a very good, solid poor
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: there that might be coming over the top.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I had to stop.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're listening, do you do you agree that
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a hard pore is the right way, Like I think
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: I've I've had you come around to my way of
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: thinking there.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I used to judge. But now oh no, oh oh
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: oh oh yeah oh.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: We got some dropage here. We might need a paper towel.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: If I can reach.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: It's not too bad. It should be okay, got a
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: wet wipe ye protect the woodwork of those skullman center.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we've been kind of killing time here
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: because we do have good beer pores, but that means
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of foam at the top.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I might just take the first sip out of the
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: can here.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I can read the description really fast. It's Nectar of
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the Galaxies hazy ip a cool name, cool can art
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: if you're watching us. Description says intense citrus and tropical
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: aromas and flavors from massive amounts of dry hopped galaxy
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: and citra hops, accompanied by a soft, fluffy mouthfeel from
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: our house hazy yeast. So that might actually feel good
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: on my spicy taste buds.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Right maybe maybe, or it's gonna just make your mouth
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: burn like crazy.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: It's still burning a little bit, even after a full
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: cup of milk.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know how this bear is gonna
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: mix with milk in there, but we got to give
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: it a try. So ready school skull.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Got a nice frothy mustache. That's good. It is. Uh,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it's soft and fluffy.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well what it says. That's not just because of
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the phone at the top. It is nice and smooth
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: while still being a solid hazy I p a. It
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't taste something that is as high as six point
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: nine percent.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I'm watching you just poured a little bit more into
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: your glass. There's like sediment that's kind of like just
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: kind of trickling down.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is really good. I uh, thanks for
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: getting this one to Lurian. You made a you made
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: another one another good one and shocking.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: What they're trying to do with their beer.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: They're trying to lure you in. We promise will be
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: done with that. But I'm I'm just glad we now
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: told that twice successfully. So yeah, great beer, great beer.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: All right, Well it's not the only great thing that
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: we get to talk about today. The Vikings won. They
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: beat the Lions, they knocked the Lions out of the playoffs.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, that is a very sweet thing to say. There
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: are a lot of Vikings quote unquote fans out there
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: that are upset that the Vikings won that game because
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: of draft positioning. We kind of talked about that last week,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and I think you kind of lean towards that side
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of hiding.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And I leaned towards not just the draft positioning, but
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the scheduling and all the other implications.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I definitely don't. I understand the thought process
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: behind it, but I just I'm never gonna root against
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: my favorite team. I've said it before, I'll say it again.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: If you're rooting for your team to lose, then they're
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: not your favorite team. But again, I totally understand the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: idea of wanting a better drop pick or better opponents
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: for next year. But like we said last week, you
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: never know, like you could be rooting and cheering right
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: now that the Cardinals are going to be on your
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: schedule next year because apparently the Cardinals are terrible. But
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a year from now, when it finally comes time to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: play them, it could be like, oh man, yeah, I
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: don't want to face the Cardinals, like that's the most
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Viking thing ever. But you just you never know, so
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: LI live in the moment, enjoy it, root for wins.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Your favorite team winning a game is always a good thing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that for sure, and we could
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: get to go watch our favorite team.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's gonna happen. Of I think
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be in the stadium. We were working on
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: some tickets or trying to get that figured out, but
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I think, no matter what, at this point where we're
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: within the realm of being able to get it no
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: matter what, a huge.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Score be present in the Week eighteen matchup against the Packers.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And it'll be our first game together as well as
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: a skull hop it's our first game together. But we've
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: attended a couple of games together. I think most recently.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the Cardinals game that no, because it was
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: the Vikings Bears game in Soldier Field at the end
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two. That's the first time we're going
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to go to a game together. And we went to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: two games together that season alone, which was pretty that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Cardinals game and then the Bears game at the end
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of the season. A year before that, we went to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Vikings Bears, which would have been the end of the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: twenty one season at US Bank.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, But that's that's next week. This week, this
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: most previous Christmas Day game, the Vikings gave us all
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a gift wearing their super Excuse me, man, that was
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a burp that came out of nowhere wherein They're super cool.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I really like the Winter Warriors. I really like them,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: not enough to say like make them their primaries. I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: just like that They're like a nice formal get up,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you know, for the right occasion, and I think Christmas
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: is the perfect occasion to bring those.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And they looked way better than the dumb black jerseys
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that the Lions wore.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I did not like those, you know, I would be
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: honest if I thought the Lions had good looking uniforms.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: But my goodness, when they switched up what a year
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: or two ago, and they like put the blue face
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: masks on and they added that black jersey with the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: blackout logo, Like, I don't know, it looks cheap, generic,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: just bad to me. Everything about the Lions is awful,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: especially they're fans. So I'm really glad the Vikings were
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: able to beat them and beat them handedly, and that
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: that's even saying like the Vikings offense was absolutely horrendous.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Max Brosmer threw for fifty one hour actual yards. But
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and I had a little back and forth on Twitter
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: with friend of the show Dustin Baker. He pointed out,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: when you count the sacks, the actual net passing yards
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the Bikens had were three three yards. And this is
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: like the one of the lowest net passing yards totals
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: any NFL team has ever had in a win. I
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: think another team got like two one time. So like
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: literally just horrendous. Jordan Addison had that one sixty five
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: yard rushing touchdown that was a beauty and just the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: way he like dove into the end zone and actually
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: made it in didn't get caught like it was. It
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: was great. Aaron Jones fifty three yards but like off
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: eighteen rushes. I think he had a few first downs.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: He was a factor in the game. Justin Jefferson is
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: now only what fifty something yards way fifty three yards,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that's the width of a football field. Dev he is
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: right there. So as long as whoever is playing quarterback
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: against the Packers can throw him three balls probably. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: think Justin Jefferson will get a thousand this year. And
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: then all that to say the offense was terrible, The
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: defense was a sight to be seen. It was really fun,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: it was beautiful, it was awesome.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Well, quit spoiling my roses and thorns here, man, because
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to talk about. I'll start, let's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: go into it. I'll start with my rose. My rose
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was that absolutely dominating defense. You just can't get a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: better defensive performance than the way the Vikings played on
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day against the Lions. They forced Jared Goff into
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: five turnovers. He had three fumbles and two picks. That's crazy,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and it was just like they had his number all game.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: He was frustrated the whole time. He's coming off the sideline,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you know, slamming his helmet down, just really frustrated. The
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Lions going into the game were playoff hopefuls. I think
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: like they were kind of hanging on by a thread.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But I mean, all they they really had to do
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: his beat the Vikings, and they were still very much
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: in the mix, and they came in they laid an
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: egg on Christmas Day. Yeah, a nice, big fat Christmas egg.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But man, it was fun to watch the defense. Harrison
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Smith continued to really kind of round into what we
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: would hope to see out of him mid season. It's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the end of the season, but he had that early
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: season setback that I think kind of pushed his timeline
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: back a little bit. But he's looking good. Andrew Van
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Ginkle had two fumble recoveries. Just knows for the ball,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: ready to scoop it up whenever it's on the ground,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and Jared Goff did that three times total. I think
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: they're a handful of sacks.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, five sacks on the game.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Five sacks.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Cashman had won Van Ginkle one and a half. He
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: shared that other half with Dallas Turner. Theo Jackson had
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that sack where he just was untouched blitzed and that
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: was a great play. Harrison Smith got a sack, which
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: was nice to see especially after was it last week?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith got a sack and it was called back
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: for that. I mean it was by the book a
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: technically a helmet to helmet. It was a little you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it wasn't the most egregious thing I've ever seen, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: if the refs are calling it by the book. Yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it was the right call to make against Harrison Smith
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: last week, but not so. Yeah, it was nice to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: see him get a sacked during the Lions game. Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: five sacks.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah. So all in all, the defense
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: was the shining star of this game. In that's my rose.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's fun to watch.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit more on the defense there. Who
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: is at Stone? Taki Taki. He's a guy, a linebacker
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: that the Vikings have brought up now, I think two
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: weeks in a row from the practice squad to be
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: eligible for the game. He wears number forty and if
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: you pay attention, if he's up for the Packer game,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: he looks like a guy that is just playing with
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: his hair on fire. And he's not making a ton
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: of stats. You know, he's not changing the game too much.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: He's mostly on special teams and stuff. But he's always
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: like running at one hundred miles an hour and he
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: looks like he's super excited to be out there. It
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: was just funny. I saw him a couple of times,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: like just freaking out at the end of a play
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: like that. Dude loves being on the football field, right
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: now even though he's not, you know, making it crazy.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I think he got one tackle in the game, but yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: defense was insane. My rose and I kind of already
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I'm realizing a few minutes ago that I totally just
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: said everything that we have our roses and thorns to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: my bad. But yeah, my rose is that you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: you finally get to shut up some of those Lions fans.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And definitely eliminating the Lions. Eliminating any division rival from
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the playoffs is always nice. Yeah, it's a down year
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings. The mass the last month or so
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: has been pretty decent, but yeah, being eliminated from the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: playoffs yourself never fun, especially after a crazy year like
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: last year. But there's still things to look forward to.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And eliminating the Lions from the playoffs. Seeing the after
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the game press conference from Dan Campbell where he's just
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: dejected and doesn't really know what to say, it's fun.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It's nice when your your rival teams have a bad
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: moment and you know, all and nobody was injured, nobody
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, horrifically knocked out of the game.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It's just you beat the other team, and it was
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: nice to see.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and with the Lions, like we all kind
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of I think you and I both predicted that the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Lions would kind of end up in a situation like
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: this preseason, like I think we saw I think we
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: thought the Vikings would perform better, of course, and we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, we always look at our team in the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: off season with some rose colors. Oh yeah, absolutely, That's
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just how most fans are. I think, like optimism is
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: always high in July and August, and then you get
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: into November, December and you're like, oh, yeah, we're not
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: as good as we thought we were, or it's like
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: last year and we're like we're going to the super
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Bowl or fourteen to three. You know. But the Lions,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know, they lost both their offensive and defensive coordinators.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is I think a decent coach. I think
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: he's a pretty good leader of men, but I don't
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: know that he can plug all of those holes that
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: were left by those guys that left. And so I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: think we really saw that he had to take play
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: calling away from the offensive coordinator mid season. If you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: losing to the Vikings the first time, yeah, and that
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: seems to help. I think the offensive efficiency improved when
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell took over play calling. But again, you if
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: we're using you know, putting your thumbs in the holes
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of a sinking ship, you take your thumb off of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: one hole to plug another hole, and now that hole
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: is leaking, you know. And I think that's kind of
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: what was happening with Dan Campbell and taking play calling.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So to your point, it's a lot of fun to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: see another team, any team, get knocked out of the playoffs,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: especially if it's probably the most obnoxious team in the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: last four years five years as a Vikings fan, I mean.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Probably three to four And that's just more for their
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: fans who have never had any foundation to stand on
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden being the most cocky d bags
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: in the world and acting like their team has ever
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: done anything to do anything at all, like the Vikings.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the stat is right now, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: like the head to head matchup of Vikings Lions history,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings would have to lose the next
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: twenty years straight to be able to have a tied
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: head to head matchup.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's definitely ridiculous.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna look that up really quick. Yeah, the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Vikings lead the series eighty two and forty five with
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: two tips. Guys, that's you're talking twenty what twenty two
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: years of The Vikings would have to lose each game
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: to the Lions for twenty two years straight. Like that's crazy,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And that's even just to tie the series up. Like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the Lions fans are obnoxious. You get one playoff run
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they're the best team in
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the world. We've never done anything.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: We will be in our mid to late sixties if
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that were to happen, which I can't imagine that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Halfties fifties yeah, ah yeah, you're just do some math there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm an English teacher. I'm terrible at Matthew, you know that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: But fifties is right. But like basically we'll just round
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: up and say sixty.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's just crazy, all right, Thorns, I'll just
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: go first. I think we can kind of put to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: rest the idea that Kevin O'Connell is a quarterback whisperer.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: You think if he was truly a QB whisperer, then
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Max Brosmer would have done more than nine of sixteen
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: for fifty one yards a net of three passing yards.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Brosmer has looked awful in both of his starts. Yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I mean the team. He's one and one in his starts,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: but he has looked pretty awful when he's been on
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the field outside of preseason. And if your quarterback whisperer,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: your backup, your second stringer, should be more prepared than that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: If you're a quarterback whisperer, then you're not having concerns
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: about fixing your qbu one's footwork in the middle of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the season. I just think Koc maybe with the perfect
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: style of quarterback, a veteran who's been around for a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: few years that already has had a little bit of success,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: is a highly touted guy. Maybe that's the guy that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Koc needs in order for him to be a quarterback whisper.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I just think we can probably put put the idea
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that he can fix any quarterback, no matter who to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: rest well.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And I wonder too if the influence of the quarterbacks
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: coach has anything to do with that. You look at
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: last year, the twenty twenty four season, the Sam Darnold
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: season for the Vikings. Before the season when or was
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it was shortly before? Sorry, I'm still dealing with spicy
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: residue in my throat. I think it was shortly before
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: they drafted JJ McCarthy, they hired Josh McCown as the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, and that was a big talking point because
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Josh McCown, I think coached JJ McCarthy. Didn't he in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: hospital or something.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe there was something, there.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Was something there anyways, I don't know. Yeah, I wonder,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's something to that. And you're looking
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: up Grant Yudinsky right now, and he's I think like
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the assistant quarterbacks coach or the like passing game coordinator
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: So I started derail you there. Great Yudinsky is the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: current offensive coordinator for the Jaguars. He was he was
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: with the Vikings. He was with the Vikings last year,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and I think he was I mean, he wasn't the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: QB coach. That was Josh McCown. Still, I think he
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: was like an assistant, some offensive assistant, maybe assistant QB coach.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: But he was pretty you know, in the time, in
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the moment, pretty publicly poached away from the Vikings by
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars and he's the offensive coordinator. He went from
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: being you know, an assistant, you know, assistant to an
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: assistant coach to an OC for a team that is
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: now poised. Are the Jaguars still in contention for the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: number one seed in the AFC?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Quietly so, like yeah, and like the sneaky underdog that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: started terribly and they've just kind of revived their season
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: under the cloud of darkness.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Which I think I don't know anything about
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yudinsky other than that he coached for the Vikings and
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: now is with thes I. I think I saw it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It was from Janick Ekkart pretty early on in the season,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: once JJ was having rough year, saying posted a picture
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: of Grant Yudinski saying maybe he was the real quarterback whisper.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think that comes back to my point
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of like, well, maybe Koc isn't the like, the true
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: quarterback whisper. Maybe maybe he's got a really good grip
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: on the playbook and he's got a grip on like
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: how to communicate a play quickly to a guy in
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a helmet. And we watched him do that with Josh Dobbs,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: who had literally been a Viking for like forty eight
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: hours before he was thrown out there. And you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: given the reins of the offense, and we saw the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: aftermath of all that, of like Koc dissecting plays for
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: him through the helmet, like here's what you're gonna see.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Snap the ball on this count and fire it to
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: this guy over the middle or whatever, you know, whatever
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the play is, and then he would do that and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: it was great. And you know, I think KOs, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think you've mentioned this before, I think he's just
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: he's got that video game play Coller type of mentality,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: where like he just he's got the strategy, he's got
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the plays. He can look at the defense, see how
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: they line up and call the right play. But maybe
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the quarterback credit goes somewhere else, you know, and maybe
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Kaos gets the credit because he's most directly responsible for
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: some of that, but you know, maybe there's some stuff
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But I agree with you for sure
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that I think that shine has worn off and he's
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: now had the opportunity with JJ McCarthy and Max Brosmer
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to do something. And the only quarterback that's looked even
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: remotely decent this year was Carson Wentz. Yeah, and they
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: put Carson Carson Wentz was basically like a warrior in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the coliseum at the end of his like tenure is
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it was nuts that they were putting him out there
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and he was just continuing to fight through. And I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: don't know that we'll see anything else from Carson Wentz
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: moving forward.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: No, well, I think he's gonna be a free agent.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He's obviously coming off shoulder surgery. He may be done.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: He might play, but we can talk, actually talk about
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: him specifically a little bit later. Although just looking at
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the numbers, Carson Wentz was the best quarterback on the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Vikings this year and it's really not even close unless
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: you're counting Cam Acres, who had that one pass for
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a touchdown against who's that against against the Browns? I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: don't remember. It sounds right, and he's not even a
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Viking anymore. I don't think Cam Akers is on any
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: any roster right now because he did sign with the Seahawks,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: but I thought they they released him. Anyways, We're not
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: going to derail on Cam Akers. But yeah, it's sad.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And when I say koc is no no longer should
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: be considered a quarterback whisper, I'm not saying he shouldn't
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: be considered a good coach. I'm not saying I want
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: him fired. I'm still very much a KOC fan. I
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: think he is a really good head coach. I just
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: think maybe, you know, it's the old adage the coach
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and the quarterback get all the blame, but they also
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: get all the glory, and I think we're just maybe
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: we overskewed that a little bit with Sam Darnold's playing
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: ability and said, man, KOC can really do this with anybody.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think maybe just we should be
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit more realistic. And then I think having
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: a tough year with the young franchise quarterback is really
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: helping develop JJ McCarthy, and it's helping to develop Kevin
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: O'Connell as a coach as well, in the way he
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: calls the game and the way he you know, his
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: mentality of how to lead this team. It's it's changing
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: his mindset, probably in a good way.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: So my thorne is very closely related, but maybe a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: little bit more broad. Years is pretty narrow. This This
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: game was just abysmal in terms of the offensive performance.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: We've already mentioned it. Three net passing yards, one of
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the lowest ever in a win in a win for
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a team, which is crazy to think that this defense
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: is so good that it can win you games. Crazy
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to think, but this offense has lost its way. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you said it a little bit ago. You know, Aaron
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Jones was a contributor. Sure, but you would still like
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to see and I know Jordan Mason's out, but you'd
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like to see a little bit more production out of
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: your running game. You had ty Chandler back. He carried
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the ball seven times. He actually averaged more yards than
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a couple of decent runs when he
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: first came in, which was nice to see. I think
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he got a key first down in like the quarter.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: And we haven't seen tych Chandler in a long time.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: He's been on IR. It's been Mason and Jones, and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: then when it hasn't been them, it's been Xavier Scott
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: because ty Chandler's been on IR. But I think you
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: like to see much more efficiency, much more production from
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: your running game.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to put it in perspective a little bit, the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Vikings had one hundred and fifty eight rushing yards on
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the day, which you see that number, you're like, Okay,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: that's not too bad. Jorde Dadison had one play one
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: rush sixty five yards so.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And led the team in rushing yards on that one play.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: So a third of your rushing you know, production came
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: on one play, which rushing yards are key for. Like
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you get a first, you get multiple first downs off
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: those rushing yards. You'd much rather have a running back have,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty carries for ninety yards and no touchdowns,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: you know in a game, than one carry for ninety
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: nine yards and a touchdown, because those twenty carries probably
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: got you a few first downs, it probably helped keep
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: the game along, keep you in front of the chains. Whereas, yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: one play for ninety nine yards and a touchdown, that's amazing,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that's incredible. It's obviously points on the board, but that's it,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that's the flash in the pan. So like in this game,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Jordan Adison getting that one rush sixty five yards in
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: a touchdown was incredible. It was probably the tipping point
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: in winning this game. But if you had the choice,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you've probably spread those sixty five rushes or sixty five
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: rushing yards out between you know, a few first downs
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: and then the score would be nice too. But first
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: downs throughout the game can be more helpful than one
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: big chunk play. But yeah, one hundred and fifty eight
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: rushing yards. Nothing to scoff at, but they can do better.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I think the rushing game was the only really bright
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: spot of this game. We were all sitting there hoping that,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you know, Justin Jefferson gets the eighty three yards that
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: he needs to eclipse the thousand yard marking in that's
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: kind of the really the sole stat that any of
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: us are paying attention to anymore. He only had thirty yards,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: which okay, not bad. He was more involved than he
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: has been and he was the leading receiver on the team,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: but Max Brozemer just could not pass the ball. Max
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Brosmer also got sacked seven times for forty eight yards,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: which counts against the overall passing yardage. So and you're
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: playing with the banged up offensive line, which doesn't help
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: anything either. So all that to say, the offense was abysmal.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: That's a big thorn. It's a big thing that the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: front office coaching staff are going to have to figure
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: out in the off season. I think the offensive line
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: is going to be a big emphasis over the off season.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: What are we going to do at center? What are
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: we going to do at right guard? Because Will Fryes
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: was hurt at at least one point, wasn't.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: He Maybe I might be missing out on that. If
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you know anything about that, you know more than I do.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I think everybody on the offensive line was hurt at
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: one point.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, I think at one point in the season, or
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: one point during the Lions game.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: At one point during the whole season.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I think I know for a fact that there was
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: only like one game where the intended starting five at
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season actually all played together. They
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: basically shut down Christian Darris.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's on IR, he's done.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson he's.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: In, he's playing, he's but he was well, he had
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: that one stint on IR or did they put him
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: on I R.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: He definitely had he was hurt wrist surgery and came back.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they put him on IR. He
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: was just out anyways. Yeah, Ryan Kelly's been gone.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Kelly, he might be done.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah for his He's been on IR twice this year,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: including right now for this most recent.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And Brian O'Neil has been in and out with injury.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Too recently, but well, and then Will Fries too, So Yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: if they had been able to play with a healthy
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: version of all of those guys all season, even with
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the quarterback woes, even with the inconsistent rushing game, which
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you can probably blame on a little bit on the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: offensive line, even with the weird, you know, low performance
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of Justin Jefferson, which again is probably a factor of
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: the quarterback woes. You need to Evan's gonna spill some
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: beer here. Oh no, you're not.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, did not.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if they were able to play with a
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: healthy version of this offensive line all year, this season
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: looks different. Maybe it's not number one seed, maybe it's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: not even playoffs, but it's different. They probably won at
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: least one game more likes.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: It's just it would be like Pittsburgh Steelers. You know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we just barely got above five hundred, but we were
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: still a good team type of vibe, where like this
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Vikings team is sitting at five hundred and we're sitting
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: here thinking like this was a really bad team. This
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: was a really bad year, you know, But you get
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying with the Steelers, right, Like Mike Tomlin
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: is notorious for having a winning seasons for basically his
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: entire career as a Pittsburgh head coach, and that's good
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. And sometimes it's like, it's good enough to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: win the AFC North and it's good enough to get
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: And that's where they're sitting right now.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: That's where they're sitting right now. And so anyways, the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: offense was bad. I think I think KOs is starting
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: to figure out his role here and he's starting to
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: figure out the pieces that he has to work with.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of learning that happened
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: this year. I'm excited to see how that's applied to
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the the the words for this year
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: are grow and development. And I think, like I said earlier,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I think Koc is going to be a better coach
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: because of this year and because of the development he's
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: had to do with his quarterbacks, not just quarterback. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: think adversity has really helped. I think the defense is
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: showing already, you know, the growth they've earned through some
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: of the adversity they've had this year. Yeah, this season,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: while disappointing, there's gonna be some silver linings who are
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to look back on and say I
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: think they'll be better in the future because of this,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: even though this is why it was a rough year
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: We should give out some game balls, yep, quick, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna squeeze one little mini segment and before
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: we get to the next one on our list. Yeah,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: but I'll start with my game ball. I've given the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: same game ball for like the last four weeks, maybe
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: five weeks, and it's well earned and I don't regret anything,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to continue to give this guy a
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: game ball. Blake Cashman seventeen tackles, had ten more tackles
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: than any individual on the Lions had a sack in
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: this game. He hasn't had a sack in a couple
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of games, I don't think, and just continues to be
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: the quarterback of the defense. He gets the game ball,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and in a game where the defense dominated and the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: defense was the reason we won this game. There's no
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: better person to give a game ball than the Blake Cashman.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we've said it before. I think we were
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: talking about it last week. You've given him a game
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: ball three weeks in a row. Now episode one to eighteen,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you said Cashman or Grenard, I think it's fair to
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: give multiple game balls, but ever since then, it's been Cashman.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I think Blake Cashman, even if he's not flashing on
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the stat sheet, which the last handful of games, he's
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: led the entire game, both teams in tackles. But even
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: if he's not flashing on the stat sheet, he's still
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the quarterback of the defense. He's the green dot, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: not just the guy like you can have a green dot,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and I think at this stage of his career, I've
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: in pace when he's had the green dot, he's kind
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of more just the like, all right, guys, coach said
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: we're gonna run this play, and then that's kind of it.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's unfair of me. I've never been in
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the Vikings defensive huddle when he's been out there, but
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I think I've in pace has been more just the parrot, like, hey, guys,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: we're running this coach says this, whereas Blake Cashman and
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I've also heard about the guy that I'm gonna give
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: a game ball to here in a minute, I think
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Blake Cashman and Harrison Smith is who gets my game ball,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: but they kind of get some more coach on the
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: field authority. So Cashman can get the play and say,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: all right, guys, we're running this in this play, and
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: he's also like you line up here, you line up there, Hey,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: you're a little bit too far right, Like he's manipulating
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the defense on the field. I've also heard recently that
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Floraes and Harrison Smith kind of have like a like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: a singular mind almost in where Flores will kind of
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: give the idea of what he wants them to play,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and Harry You'll be like, all right, this is what
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: we're playing. You go this, you go there. He's kind
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: of also like that tandem quarterback on the defense. And
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I think we're seeing the last probably for since this
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: wind streak has started in probably a little bit even
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: before that, Harrison Smith has turned it, turn the dial
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: back and he is, you know, playing like peek Harrison Smith.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: So I don't know what his what exactly happened in
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the training camp that he missed basically half of training
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: camp and he was gone for the early part of
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the year. I don't know if he missed games or not,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: but he was not himself. We were saying, man, it's
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: kind of sad that Harrison Smith is not you know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith anymore. But the last handful of games a
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: month and a half or so, he is peek Harrison Smith,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: which is great, and I think that's why the defensive
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: has been playing so well. So Cashman and Smith, those
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: guys are skyrocketing this defense well.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: And I think I heard in an interview that Harrison
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Smith even told a reporter like, yeah, Flores kind of
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: basically just tells me like I can do whatever I want,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Like I trust my gut, you know, trust my instincts.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: If if he puts me, you know, on the line
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: in this like fake disguised, are we gonna blitz or are
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: we not? And if I feel like I've got the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: open lane to go blitz, I've got the green light
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: anytime I want it. And I think he's a smart
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: enough football player to take it when it's there or
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: to drop back when it's not there. And I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: we saw that against the Lions. We saw that two
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. Because he's had sacks I think in back
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: to back games now.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the one that he had against the Giants,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: that was the one we talked about earlier, that was
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: called back.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: That's right, Well, then he's then I guess he's had three,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: then he's had the one that's been called back, but
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: going back even one more game than that. Now, I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: gotta look back the schedule because I forget against the Cowboys,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: he had he sacked Dak Prescott against the Cowboys. Oh yeah, okay,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: so you know, if we count the one that didn't
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: count against the Giants, he's got a sack in three
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: straight games. And again to your point that he's just
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: been peaking really at the end of this season, which
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: has been fun to watch. But I think there's a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: lot of trust there with Brian Flores and uh. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: think he trusts both Cashman and Smith to really just
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: kind of put guys in position. I remember earlier this
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: season Harrison Smith, when Cashman was still on IR, Harrison
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Smith like literally grabbed Ivan, paced Junior, put somewhere else,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and then Ivan paced Junior and just got the sack.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Like and Harrison Smith was basically doing what Cashman does,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: and I think Cashman might just do it with his
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like words and signals, and Harrison Smith literally.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Just that was right before the ball was snapped. It
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: was like he had as parents, like sometimes you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: we have young children sometimes rather than say like now
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: you know, walk over there and go put that away.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just pick them up and put them where
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: they need to go. That's what Harrison Smith was doing
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: in that specific situation. Pick them up, put him where
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: he needs to go, and go.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: So all of that to say, yeah, good game balls,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I think for both of us, it's very appropriate that
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: they both go to defensive players, arguably the two best
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: defensive players that the Vikings have.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only other player on the team I could
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: have even thought about giving a game ball to would
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: have been Will Record, and I think he should be
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the NFC Pro Bowl kicker. He was three for three
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: on field goals with long fifty six. Did he have
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: multiple fifty plus yard field goals? I think he did.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: And then you know, he was perfect again on extra points.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: He has yet to miss an extra point.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Perfect on extra points in his career.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like and yeah, this is his second season, but
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: he's still he is the kicker we've been looking for
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: for our whole lives. And even with the Blair Walsh
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: before that Seattle playoff game, Blair Walsh was amazing, but
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I think Will Record's even better. But yeah, that's the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: only other player I could have thought to give a
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: game ball to so.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: A mini segment, we could blow it up into a
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: full segment.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's our podcast. Whether we have stuff written
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: down or not, we don't have to do.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time talking about the quarterbacks,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: which we can do and we can look at we
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: can look ahead. But I think another really big talking point,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and maybe a talking point that will be more relevant
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: soon rather than later, is Brian Flores. Yeah, what's gonna happen?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: And I feel like the furnace surrounding him has been
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: heating up with Brian Flores? Where's he gonna go? I
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I saw something today that the Cowboys are interested in
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: hiring him as their head coach.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I think he's a defensive coordinator. Oh really, yeah, because
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: they're shot it's Brian.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Shot Marty Marty, No, Brian, I don't know.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: It's a shot shot. They call him shoddy. I'm just
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: mixing him up with I think his dad, who coached
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the Chargers back in the day.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Way back. Yeah, and a few other teams. I think.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go with Brian Schottenheimer. And I'm okay with
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: being wrong. Comment like and subscribe if I'm wrong.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: You could.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: We're not going No, it's not worth shoddy. We'll go
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: a Shottenheimer. But yeah, I've heard this is his first
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: year as the Cowboys head coach.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: That's true, and I forgot about that.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I heard the same rumor you did that the Cowboys
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: would be very interested in him as their defensive coordinator
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: for next year.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: And I guess maybe I just misread the headline. I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: thought it said head coach, but I forgot that they
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: have a first year head coach and they're not moving
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: on from him. I think there are plenty of head
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: coaching vacancies, like New York. I think that's maybe the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: front runner, the Giants, That is, the New York Football
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Giants that are currently operating with an interim head coach
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: after they fired Dable.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: The Titans. I think New York and Tennessee are the
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: only official as of right now. Unless I'm mistaken, but
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I think those are the only teams that have already
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: fired their head coaches. There will be a few more.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Probably you could say maybe Miami. You could say there's
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: no way he goes back to Miami. Oh, yeah, totally
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: forgot about that. But like, there's gonna be probably another
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: few head coaching openings so.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Correct, So I think it'll be really interesting to see.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: And I also know, and I think you've seen the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: headlines that the Vikings are actively working to extend him
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: as their defensive coordinator. So there's there's kind of just
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: the like poker game going on of like, Okay, who's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: gonna put more chips on the table, who's gonna bit higher?
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And where's he gonna go? What? What does he want?
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Does he want that head coaching job, does he want
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: that notoriety, does he want the leadership of being a
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: head coach? Or is he content to stay here in
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Minnesota and keep doing what he's doing and continue to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: light it up like he's been doing for the last
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: handful of seasons.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: It's funny you bring this up because seven minutes ago
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: former two time Minnesota Viking Anthony Barr tweeted, excuse me,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I I need to get this burping thing figured out. Uh.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Anthony Barr tweeted seven minutes ago, Vike's better give flow
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: a king's ransom, And I agree. We've talked with front
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: of the Show Dustin Baker, who seems to have a
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: little bit of knowledge on this he kind of gave
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: us the idea that he he knows Flores is probably
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: one of the highest paid coordinators in the NFL, if
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: not the highest paid coordinator in the NFL, So I
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: think the compensation part of it shouldn't be an issue everything.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Also we've ever heard about the Wilfs is that whenever
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: they've been asked to, you know, cough up some some
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: dollars for a player or coach or anything, a stadium, anything. Uh,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the Wilfs, if if they're behind it, if it's good
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: for the team, they're they're good for, you know, financing
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: whatever needs to be financed. I think we're both in
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: agreement as of right now. We would like Brian Flores
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: back a.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Thou.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: You hear some Vikings fans, and I guess my question
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: to you is are you among them that would say, like, hey,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: if if you could only keep one, you better get
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: rid of koc and make Flora as your head coach.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite there. I think they're really good tandem.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I kind of get the sense from everything we've heard
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: from front of the Show, Dustin, from really everything every
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: other article and stuff, Brian Flores seems to enjoy being
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I think we've gotten the sense he and
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: his family enjoy being in Minnesota. I think he still
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: has like high school aged child or children. I don't
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: think he would from everything we've heard, I don't think
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Brian Flores would leave the Vikings for a coordinator position.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: It would stink, it would suck. I wouldn't be happy,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: but I would understand it if he left for a
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: head coaching position. That's there's only thirty two of those
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: jobs out there. You can't fault him for that. If
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: somebody offered to hire him as their head coach, that
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: that could happen. I don't think he'd leave for a
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: lateral move, especially when his defense is highly touted. The
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Vikings are a better team with him and his defense,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: and compensation doesn't seem to be an issue. I think
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: all of those things unless he were actively saying, like
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I hate coaching here, or they're not getting players that
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I want, like I think everything that we hear is
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: he'll he He's the reason Blake Cashman is a Viking.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: You know, he's the one that's saying, Hey, this defender,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: we should probably go get him. He was saying, Isaiah Rodgers,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I'm super pumped that we got that guy in free
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: agency when I had never heard of Rogers's name before,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: you know, like, and he's getting some some you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: feedback and some backing in his coaching and his recommendation.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: So I think he is well liked in Minnesota. I
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: think he likes being in Minnesota. I would be shocked
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: if he left for another coordinator position.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd agree with that, And I don't know. I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: think you've got a really good one two punch in
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: KOs and Brian Flores. I am not among those that's
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: willing to just dismiss KOs and say, Brian Flores, you're
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: the head coach. Like that. Now, if ever, we got
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: to a spot where it's obvious that Chaos has lost
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: his grip on things. Maybe next season, hopefully not next season,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: two seasons from now, a couple of seasons from now,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you know, he's in a spot the Vikings are not
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: winning games, and it's pretty obvious that, you know, the
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: playbook is stale, he's not doing what he needs to
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: do to really, you know, win games anymore. At that point, okay,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: cut your losses by KOC, see you later. Brian Flores,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: you're the interim head coach, and then see what happens
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: from there, you know, like if he if he can
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: really hold his own and and he's still there to
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: begin with, you know, as the defensive coordinator, then yeah,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: sure it could be a consideration, but yeah, I don't know.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I think at this point, I love having a really good,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach and arguably the league's best defensive
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: coordinator as your DC, and you just roll with that
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: see what happens.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Especially after the way the defense has looked the last
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: month and a half or so just incredible. I'm sure
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: if we look back at the schedule, there's probably been
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: a game where I've been on this show saying I
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: don't care get rid of Flora is like whatever. You know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: maybe it was after the Chargers game where the Vikings
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: lost like thirty seven to nothing, or you know, whatever
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: it was. I probably said something like that, like, yeah,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I don't even care, let him let him go. But
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: you got to look at the season as a whole,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: and the defense as a whole has looked pretty incredible
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: all season. Yeah, I think Koc and Flores are a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: good tandem, and I just don't see a lot of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: reasons outside of a head coaching job. Why Flores would
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: leave because you'd think you'd hear, like you hear when
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: you know Stefan Diggs is disgruntled in the building. You
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: hear when a player is less than happy in their situations.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: We haven't heard. You know Flores is unhappy in Minnesota.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: It's just he's a coordinator, not a head coach. So
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: and when you're actively suing a team in the NFL
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: like that doesn't bode well for getting another head coaching job.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: It's KOC and you know the Vikings, but it's KOC dictating, Okay,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I want this guy's my DC to get a head
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: coaching job. It would be like a GM and an
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: owner signing off on it, like, Okay, yeah, this is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: our franchise. He's the head of our franchise. Let's go.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: So outside of a head coaching job, I'd be shocked
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: if Flores was gone, And I think the Vikings are
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: better if he stays. And he's probably not better if
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: he stays, because if he could get a head coaching job,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: you should go for it. But I hope he stays
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: at least one more year.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I think for now, Vikings fans are probably safe in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: thinking that Brian Flores is going to be back for
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: all the reasons you've already mentioned, and for some of
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the other things we've kind of flashed out, like there's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: really no other logical place for him to go, and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: anything else outside of Minnesota would mostly be a lateral
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: move for him. And he's currently in the midst of litigation,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: you know, with the league, and so you know, maybe
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: it's worth buying his time for him to just stay
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota, continue making pretty decent money. Being a defensive coordinator,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: not having the responsibility of being the head coach, you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: don't have to go in front of the media as often,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: and you can just kind of you know, do you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: you know? And then you know, I don't know, maybe
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: a couple of years from now, you you find that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: right head coaching position when inevitably one comes up, because
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: there's always a head coaching position that comes up.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. If I'm Brian Flores, I stay
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: put for now, Like no, the Vikings are paying me
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: pretty good money. I got a really good roster, and
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I've got a great offensive minded head coach who will
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: not only handle the offense, but will handle all the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: head coaching stuff. And I can tell you just as
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: a Measley High School head coach, like when you're the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: head coach, you deal with everything, like you are the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: backstop for everything for your program, and even the things
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be responsible for, you're responsible for.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: And Brian Flores might be thinking like, I don't have
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to deal with that. It's not my job. You know.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: The compensation comes with, you know, responsibilities. So yeah, as
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: a head coach, you're probably I'm sure Kosc probably spent
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: more time than he ever wanted to talking about how
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: to get bluggage and equipment over till Dublin, you know,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: And I assume Flores probably didn't have to worry much
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: at all about any of that unless I'm gonna get
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: over there. Yeah, yeah, it's all good, but we know
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: nothing about how they operate. But yeah, being a head
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: coach seems like a lot more to do, which is
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: why you say things like, well maybe he should give
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: up play calling or maybe you know, a great Udinsky
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: you did do a lot more than we think he did. Because,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: like we said, head coach gets all the glory and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: all the blames, so and that doesn't quite come the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: same way with being a coordinator, which maybe Flores is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: in the best of every world right now. I also
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: looked it up. Flores is only forty four right now.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: He has at least twenty thirty more years of coaching
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: ahead of him. It's not like he's trying to Man,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I'm already sixty. I need if I'm ever going to
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: be a head coach, I just need to take it
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: right away. Like he's still at a good spot where
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: he's coveted. He's young, he has time to be able
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: to say, to be picky about I'm not gonna take
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: that job or I will leave this job for that,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: you know, Like he's got the benefit of being able
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: to be picky. I just hope it results in at
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: least one more season with the Vikings.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: So to maybe tie up this whole segment here, I
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: saw an interesting headline. Wasn't an article that I really
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: read in its entirety. It has nothing to do with
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the Vikings, but it has everything to do with the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Okay, and you know the Chiefs, notably,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: you know, were in the Super Bowl last year, missed
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. And I think it was Travis
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Kelcey was quoted saying something like, you know, you don't
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs every year, and that's not the head
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: coach's fault. It's not the offensive coordinator's fault. It's not
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator's fault. It's not Patrick Mahomes's fault. And
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I don't maybe I'm just kind of bringing all of
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: this together in my own mind as I'm talking through this,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: but basically, I think there was an interview with Travis Kelcey,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and I think it was basically just like listen, like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: sometimes there are down years and that's just okay. Like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: just because you have a down year doesn't mean everybody's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: fired and you start over. Yeah, and I think the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are a good example of that. Like, just because
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs didn't make the playoffs this year after being
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl for the last like five year years,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean the sky is falling in Kansas City. Just
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: because they're gonna move from Kansas City, Missouri to Kansas City,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Kansas doesn't mean the sky is falling in Missouri or
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Kansas or both. Whatever. Like things are fine, and yeah,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: there will be some movement in that organization, and who
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: knows Travis Kelcey might not be a chief next year. Okay,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes might have to throw the ball to some
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: other tight end. Okay, yeah, fine, great whatever, Patrick Mahomes
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: might be gone. I don't know.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I mean I doubt it.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: But like things come, things go, and we tend to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: as fans, and I think the media definitely tends to
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: hyperbolize all of this stuff, like, oh and we did it.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm calling us out a little
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: bit like a month ago. The sky is falling, the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Vikings are terrible. Fire everybody, fire Quac, fire Chos.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Still fire Quacy, leave him of his duties. We can
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: disagree on that, and that's perfectly fine.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I well, and I told you how I felt about that, Like,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: if you're going to fire him, you have to fire
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: a KOs And if you're not willing to fire a Koc,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: then I think Quasi stays and you ride this out
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer and see what can happen. And
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I still hold to that, and again you said it,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: we can agree to disagree.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, That's the fun about sports is we can argue.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: But like we're sitting here talking about an eight and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: eight Vikings team. That could end up with a winning record.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I hope so too, And I kind of hoped that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: they would tank for the advantage for next year, which
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: could be a little short sighted. I don't know. But
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: all of that I think comes back to maybe the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: premise of our whole podcast here, that we're just a
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: couple of dudes drinking beer and talking about football, and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: we don't know much. We just know what we read
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: and what we see and what we hear, and we
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: can speculate and that's what we do. So I don't know.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I think our off season is full of talking points.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: We haven't even touched on quarterbacks, which I think that's okay.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: We could spend three episodes, that's.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another series.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Of talking about quarterback possibilities for the Vikings. You know,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: we could spend a whole episode defending JJ McCarthy. We
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: could spend a whole episode getting rid of J. J
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: McCarthy and figuring out who else comes in and replaces him.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: But it's all speculation, yep. And we don't know anything.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: We're just sitting here drinking beer.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: And talking about stuff. So all right, well, the Vikings
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: finish off. This will be the last game of their season,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: hosting the Hackers.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: And we could be in attendance.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: I'm comfortable enough saying we will be enough probably at
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: this point, there's a very short list of things that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: could make it so that we're not in attendance. Yeah,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: it's more I'd say it's more likely than not that
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: the school Hop will be there. If you are going
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: to that game, let us know. We We're always up
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: for meeting up with people and talking to some people.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I'll probably like wear my skull Hop stuff.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I'll have something skull Hop on, maybe my hat. But
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll be rocking a jersey or.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Something like that where my Warren Moon jersey. That'd be
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: a good one.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: My nicest jersey is a guy who quit on the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: team this year. So I don't think I can. I don't.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I don't feel good about wearing that jersey.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Right, that's my nicest jersey. Yeah, I'm probably not gonna
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: wear Yeah, I do have.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I have that justin Jefferson hockey jersey that came out
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, which I'm kind of disappointed in,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: but it's still kind of cool. So maybe I'll wear that.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be kind of cold.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I could throw like a hoodie. It's big, so I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: could definitely throw like a sweatshirt on underneath. Anyways, Skullhop
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: will be there probably probably.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: There's like a nine chance they there.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: So if you have any tips too, because we haven't
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: been to very many games, let us know places to
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: eat or stay or best concession stands in the stadium. Yeah,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: let us know. I did get a tip about a
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: nice brewery that does all you can eat breakfast before
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: the games. I might might check that out. Yeah, if
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: you're listening, thanks to whoever gave me that tip. But yeah,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Vikings Packers. I tried to look at betting lines today.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: There's not much out because it's still technically next week.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I think by tomorrow things might be updated for betting lines.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: But Vikings are six and a half point favorites.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Really, that is way different than I saw even earlier today.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Earlier today, I saw the Packers were favored by a
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: point and a half, but that was probably before things
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: were really updated.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would expect that that has everything to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: do with the fact that Jordan Love is hurt, Malik
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Willis got hurt, and the Packers have literally nothing to
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: play for because they are locked in as the seven seed.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Do you see an over under on that under.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Is thirty seven and a half.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Vegas is predicting a low scoring game one
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: that apparently the Vikings are almost a full touchdown favorited
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: by I'd be okay with that. I'm still in the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: mindset of I don't even care if it gets you.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: What's the highest or the there's a weird way of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: phrasing draft picks. The highest draft pick in terms of
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: like highest number, I'm talking like crappiest draft pick. What's
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the worst draft pick you can have without being a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: playoff team? Does that make sense? Did that sentence make
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: any sense?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Seventeen?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's like nineteen. I think the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: first like the worst playoff team, you know, the first
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: ones to lose with the worst record they get like nineteen. Well,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: there's there's fourteen playoff teams, so that would be eighteen.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Pick eighteen is when playoff teams start earning. So seventeen, Yeah,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: you're right, I was.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah you were I'm not the math, but I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: figured that one out. Is that right?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: There's Yeah, there's fourteen playoff teams. Thirty two minus fourteen
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: is eighteen.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Right, so I was close.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said no, no, no, but you answered the
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: question correctly. I said, what's the worst pick you could
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: have without being a playoff team? So very likely the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Vikings will have the worst pick without being a playoff team.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is, so it's today is Sunday. We're
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: actually recording on a Sunday for once, which doesn't always happen.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry to mess up your schedules all. You know,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: both the our listeners here, But.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I went to So our typical Sunday routine is we
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: go to church and then we go to brunch with
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: my parents afterwards. And my dad I walked into the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: restaurant this morning with my dad and my dad was like, yeah,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I was watching the Eagles and the Bills last night,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think you watched a replay the
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Eagles and the Bills from last year, because the Eagles
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: and the Bills played today, and he's like, oh really,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like So, then we're sitting at the brunch table
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: and my mom had no idea that my dad and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I had already covered this, and my mom was like, yeah,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I heard that the Vikings could have a shot at
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: the wild cart and I'm like, mom, the Vikings were
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: mathematically eliminated from the playoffs weeks ago, two weeks ago, Like,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: there's no there's no hope for the Vikings. So anyways,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: it was funny that I had to like educate my
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: parents all of this, but anyways, yeah, that was my morning.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: That's what I had to deal with.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, all right. So Vikings apparently are favored by
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: six and a half points as of right now. That
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: will change it with an over under thirty seven and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: a half. That's pretty low. That's each team scoring less
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: than twenty points. Like, that's that's pretty low. What do
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: you think, Evan? What are the keys to the Vikings
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: coming away with a victory on that one?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: The defense has to keep playing like it's played and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: I mean with an over under like that, I mean,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: you got to you gotta hold this Packers offense to
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: definitely under fifteen and under ten again would be awesome.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: But it's got to come down to a defense, not
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: just a defensive game plan, but a good offensive game
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: plan as well. And a win doesn't really mean whole
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: lot for the Vikings. We know that it's more just
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: a pride thing. It's a you know, let's not let
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: the Packers come into US Bank and walk out with
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: a win.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Especially when they don't have anything to play for.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not going to be playing a lot
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: of their starters because they know they're the seventh seed.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: They know they're going to be on the road wild
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Card weekend. They don't know who they're going to play, probably,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: but they know they're going to play whoever the two
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: seed is.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: You know, no, they'll play or yeah, the two seed.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, they'll play the one seed, but
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: the one seed gets.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Once he gets the buye, So you know, they might
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: be kind of watching scores to see who they'll play
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: and where they go, where they have to travel to.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, it's like nothing about this
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: game really changes anything. They don't want to injure anybody.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: They want to keep people healthy. So Jordan Love won't play.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee that I would be surprised if
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: we see anything from Jacobs. I would be surprised if
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: we see anything from Mike Parsons. You know, even some
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: of their stud receivers like Dobbs, Matthew Golden. There's a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: couple other guys that I'm probably blanking on, but like,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I doubt that we'll see any of those guys really,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if the Vikings win either,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: just just by virtue of the fact that the Packers
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: aren't playing anybody meaningful. So it'll be an interesting game.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: For yeah, especially since the Packers like not that it
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: changes the Vikings Packers game, but full disclosure, we're recording.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: As of right now, the Bears are playing the forty
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: nine ers in the fourth quarter. It's a tie game
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: right now, and the forty nine ers are driving down
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: to try to score to make it not a tie
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: game anymore. But as of right now, the Bears hold
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: the two seed in the NFC, and I don't think
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: they're Yeah, they mathematically can't be the number one seed,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: but if they are the two seed, then the Packers
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: would travel to Chicago for you know, probably one of
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: the more highly watched wild Card playoff games in recent memory.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was all just to say the Bears
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: might be the number two seed. I think the Vikings
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: win this one. My key for the Vikings to be
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: victorious is just like you said, the defense has to
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: play just as well as they have been, maybe not
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: just as well. I think they've been playing lights out
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: the last few weeks, and you know, I don't think
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: they have to play up to that standard, but I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: think they will, especially, you know, if they've been playing
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: this well since being eliminated from the playoffs. There's no
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: reason to let off the gas against you know, a
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: very hated division rival unless there's some unexpected injuries. We
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: haven't seen as of right now an injury report for that.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: We still won't.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: It's Sunday now, we won't see it till I think
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Wednesday are when the first injury reports come out. I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: think Kevin O'Connell might speak to the media on Tomorrow afternoon,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: like if he normally does on Mondays. So we don't
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: have a lot of information. You know, the Vikings have
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: had a little bit of a mini buy since Christmas.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: We don't know if JJ McCarthy is gonna play. He
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: had what was described as a minor fracture that could
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: be looked at as a bone bruise. But yeah, JJ
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: McCarthy may very well not be playing, although he might
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: end up playing. It could be another Brozmer game. I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: think the defense has to play well, and you have
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: to have some semblance of a run game, and that's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: kind of what I'll say the Vikings had against the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Lions with some semblance of a run.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Game, with that extra boost at that sixty five yard
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: end around to Jordan Addison for a touchdown yep, which
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: boosted everything by thirty some percent.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so, I think the Vikings. Yeah, the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Packers have nothing to play for. They can't help or
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: hurt them They can only hurt themselves by getting injured.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Winning this game by a thousand points wouldn't help the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Packers at all, Like it's just all for pride. Maybe
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: some of their players they probably do have some like
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: contract incentives to hit, so that might be what individual
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: players have to root for. Obviously, it's also like an
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: NFL game. Coaches don't want to lose, like nobody wants
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: to lose this, but they have no reason to give
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: a thousand percent and maybe hurt themselves by winning. The
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Vikings also really have not much to play for. Losing
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: this game probably helps their draft status one pick. Maybe
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly enough to know about that, but
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: they've been winning, so they're already kind of screwed in
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: the draft status as far as missing the playoffs, so
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have the sixteenth or seventeenth pick. Like, that's
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: just how it's gonna work. This is a pride game.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: This is all about This is all about pride, and
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: I think the Viking at home in front of fans
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: that have been coming to games even though they've been
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: eliminated for a few weeks now, with hopefully JJ McCarthy
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: a quarterback who needs some more development and every snap
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: he can get, the Vikings should win this game. And
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: as far as pride goes, the Vikings have more to
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: win with pride than the Packers do. The Vikings could
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: hurt themselves, you know, morality wise by losing. So just
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: go out and win.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: I have a few hopes, a few like wishes, even
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: though Christmas is over, so they're not Christmas wishes but
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: a New Year's miracle, New Year's wishes. I hope JJ
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: McCarthy plays me too. I hope he plays. I think
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: this would be a good game for him to continue
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: to develop. It's meaningless, it doesn't matter. Put him out there,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: see what happens, you know, unless his hand is truthfully
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: like that banged up that he can't throw the ball.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Put them out there, even if it's for the first
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: quarter or just the first half, Like, put them out there,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: see what happens. Give them some meaningful reps in games.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: So that's my first hope. My second hope is that
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: the Vikings fans don't just sell all of these tickets
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: to package.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Can Don't do that because that's just Hey, Vikings fans,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: if you have season tickets or you have have tickets,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: just don't ever sell them to packer fans, even whether
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: the game's meaningful or not. That's just that's the worst.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: That's the worst thing you can do.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: And my third hope is that we are there.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's the most that's the easiest hope to
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: get going. As far as I'm concerned, we're like ninety
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: seven percent or.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Up two percent from earlier in the episode, because I say,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I said ninety five, So we're we're we're on the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: right trajectory here.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: All all the dominoes are stacked it up towards Yes,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: we're going, at least from my perspective. I don't know
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: about your perspective.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I won our Fantasy League, and I'm getting money,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put that money towards I tell I'm
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: following through on what I know.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: You know, you maybe buy us around while we're there
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: with that money. I can't let you buy my ticket.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna figure this out and it'll be fine.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: This is money that wasn't expected and I won. Well
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. It would also be
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: nice to know when this game is gonna happen, whether
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: it's Saturday third or Sunday that.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know that we're going to really find that
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: out until tomorrow. I think they're gonna wait till the
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Monday night game Tomorrow night to to do that. You're
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: looking at prices right now.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: I just saw the lowest price i've seen listed as
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: a ninety one dollars.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, so ticket prices are dropping, So that's good.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, packrifans. You are not allowed to come.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Yep, don't don't come to us. Bank will be nice
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll be I maybe like politely jabbing.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: We'll give you a hard time. But yeah, yeah, this
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: is a this is a funny little sidetrack. I took
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: my daughters to Culvers yesterday for lunch because my wife
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: was out doing something and or no, yeah, it was
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: all of us. We were to packer week, went to Culvers. Evan,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Culvers is good. There's only a few good things. There's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: only a few good things that come out of Wisconsin.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Number one, Culvers. Number two cheese kurds of any kind.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Cheese curds are wonderful.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: You're not even listing the correct number.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: One.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Ev Beer, Evan, all right, beer, but.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: We don't drink Wisconsin beer on this podcast. But I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: was getting to it. The third best thing to come
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin is spott Cow.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty good. Moon Man from from Nuclear anyways,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: all that to say, we were sitting in Culvers here
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: in Iowa, by the way, neutral state, but probably leaning
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: towards the Vikings because we're here and I think our
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: area leans towards the Bears of if any.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Team, if we're going by the number of podcasts about
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: NFL team, we don't.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Know, we don't know. There might be another Bears podcast.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: If you're a Bears podcast out there, let us know,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: because we'll.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Collaborate, maybe politely, maybe yeah, politely friendly we have a
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: bear fan on our show frequently.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm getting to the point we've derilled this far enough.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Culvers and the Packers were playing yesterday. Okay, right,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Packers played the Ravens yesterday on Saturday, the Saturday after Christmas,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: and there's this family that came into Culvers all decked
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: out in their Packers stuff and that's disgusting. Both of
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: my girls were like, dad there wearing Packer stuff and
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I saw, and They're like, what
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: should we do? And I'm like, we'll be nice, but
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: we don't have to look at them.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Pretend they're not there.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: And that was a memorable moment for my daughters. Yeah.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: So anyways, I'm hoping, hoping that US Bank Stadium is purple.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Mostly purple. Get those cheese heads out of there.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: We buy some cheese greater hats. I would buy a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: cheese greater hat.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd wear that before i'd wear most anything else. Evan,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: what did you think about this beer?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: This was This was a really good beer.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: I want to know what you want to say about
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: this beer, because I feel like this is your beer.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: This is like squarely in your category.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: It's in my wheelhouse. But yeah, I think there's a
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: little bit too much green on the can art. Now
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: it's we're just talking about it's really good. It's you know, legit.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: It's a one of the better hazy i p as
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: I've had Tilurian. I don't think I've ever had a
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: bad beer from you. This beer is really good. If
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: you're looking for a good hazy ip A the or
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: is it Nectar of the Galaxies, go for it. It's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: it's awesome. It's another good Iowa brewed beer.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Did they lure you in? Oh? Absolutely?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Mission accomplished for accomplished alien who's fighting for the nexture
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: of the galaxies?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make sense of the can art.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Evan. If people want to reach out to us, how
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: can they do that?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: They should just find us. They should google us the
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: Skull Hop.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Just type it in, Yeah, they'll find us. They'll find Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, everything,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Our website, website, Yeah, sko.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: L h op the Skull Hop. Just type it in,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: you'll find us. Website hasn't been outdated. It's there though.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: It's there though.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: There's even merch. We need to get that figured out.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: But there's merch.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. I think we got a message today
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: about merch and we've we've got it. Yeah, it's we'll
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: get it figured out. Some of it fell apart and
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: we're trying to rebuild it and we'll get there. Absolutely,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: we'll get there, all right.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Man, I've had a lot of fun. This is a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: really good beer, really good beer. Great episode, maybe best
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: episode yet.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Episode one. To my goodness, man, that's a slot school
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: school