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The Late Debate | 27 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately. Welcome to the late to base.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caylebond had
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  Speaker 2: on a minute, James McPherson.
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  Speaker 1: Is it's so nice to be back with you.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like it's been so long.
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  Speaker 2: I'd almost forgotten you were a real person because you
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  Speaker 2: haven't been in Sydney and you haven't been on the
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  Speaker 2: desk card.
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  Speaker 1: But it's nice to finally have the team reunited. Say
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  Speaker 1: that to me, Well, let's get into the show. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to get through tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Coming up, national security fears with Chinese evs being stored
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  Speaker 5: beside Australian military bases, can you believe it? And how
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  Speaker 5: desperate is the Victorian labor government for cash They've doubled
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  Speaker 5: their tax on the family dog plus a Catholic college
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  Speaker 5: counsels it's year twelve mack Up Day over fears that
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  Speaker 5: boys and girls plan to swap uniforms. All of that
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  Speaker 5: and more to come, But First Independent Senator Lydia Thorpe
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  Speaker 5: caused outrage earlier this month when, and you'll remember it,
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  Speaker 5: she told a pro Palestine mob that she'd burned down
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  Speaker 5: Parliament House if that's what it took to make her point,
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  Speaker 5: which was really just an admission that she was all
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  Speaker 5: out of coherent arguments and we.
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  Speaker 6: Will turn up every day and if I have to
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  Speaker 6: brand down Parliament House to make it up, I am
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  Speaker 6: not there maintain I'm really.
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  Speaker 1: Get jumped in for people.
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  Speaker 5: Well, today Liberal senator Ann Rustin moved to censure Lydia Thorpe,
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  Speaker 5: apparently clinging to that old fashioned idea that threatening to
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  Speaker 5: set fire to the seat of government as you know,
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  Speaker 5: bad form. Enter Green's Deputy leader Marine Ferouki, who gallantly
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  Speaker 5: explained that Thorpe's remarks.
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  Speaker 1: Were you know, metaphorical. You see, when Lydia Thorpe.
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  Speaker 5: Threatens to torch Parliament, she doesn't mean it. It's just
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  Speaker 5: you know, poetic like burn down the house. And if
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  Speaker 5: you don't understand that, well, for Ricky says it's because
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  Speaker 5: you're white.
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  Speaker 7: We must be living in a parallel universe here. Honestly,
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  Speaker 7: you would have thought, you would have thought that many
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  Speaker 7: of the Coalition MPs and senators and Labor MPs and senators,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you would have thought that they would perhaps
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  Speaker 7: understand the meaning of burning down the house, given that
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  Speaker 7: many of you white people in here claim English as
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  Speaker 7: your first language, that you would actually know, you would
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  Speaker 7: actually know what this means. Or maybe or maybe some
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  Speaker 7: of you have heard the Talking Heads song burning Down
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  Speaker 7: the House in the eighties, which is about which is
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  Speaker 7: about liberation, It is about freedom, it is about breaking free.
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  Speaker 2: But no, but no, for.
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  Speaker 8: Heaven's sake, this is a metaphor. This is how you
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  Speaker 8: treat people of color.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm not surprised at all that you're ranting.
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  Speaker 5: Back at me, Caleb and Freyer, I do not know
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  Speaker 5: where to start with this. Do we talk about Feruki's
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  Speaker 5: attired Did we talk about Ferruki's use of the race
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  Speaker 5: card or Farruki's amazing faith in the ability of an
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  Speaker 5: angry mob to distinguished between a literal call.
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  Speaker 1: For terrorism and a clever turn of phrase.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb, look, i'man seriously, anyone who heardly Thought on that
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  Speaker 2: day did not come away thinking she was making a
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  Speaker 2: reference to a song from the eighties. She's the sort
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  Speaker 2: of person that if she said she was going to
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  Speaker 2: burn something down, you might take her at face value.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think you could blame us for interpreting
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  Speaker 2: it that way. As for the suggestion that it's just
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  Speaker 2: you white people. You should know better. Rhume's a bit
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  Speaker 2: of jumse Yusuf who for about five minutes was the
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  Speaker 2: first Minister of Scotland, who famously gave his speech. I
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  Speaker 2: think it was a couple of years before he became
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  Speaker 2: the first minister, but gave a speech lecturing the Scottish
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  Speaker 2: about white people in the white people all over Scotland
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  Speaker 2: doing white things and being white is bad.
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  Speaker 3: Everything white is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly the moment that we saw there from
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  Speaker 2: Marine Feruki. If anyone else did that with any other race,
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  Speaker 2: if you stood up in Parliament, and I know they
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  Speaker 2: make this argument that, you know, black people can't be racist,
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  Speaker 2: only white people can be racist. You can't be racist
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  Speaker 2: towards white people. But if you look up the definition
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  Speaker 2: of racism, the actual definition of racism, there's no qualification
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  Speaker 2: to it. It is simply discrimination against, or slandering or
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  Speaker 2: whatever people of another race, or even your own race,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to go down that road. So if
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  Speaker 2: you say what you white people, can you imagine if
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  Speaker 2: any other senator said you black, you Pakistani's like you,
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  Speaker 2: Marine Feruki, or if anyone said to Lydia Thorpe you
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal people, there would be a.
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  Speaker 3: Hue and cry, and deservedly so.
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  Speaker 4: But has anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Apart from US talked about this anywhere. It just went
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  Speaker 2: completely under the radar because it was white, and.
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  Speaker 9: Well, the double standard doesn't stop there. I mean, look
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  Speaker 9: at what Marine Feruki was wearing. She was wearing a kefia,
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  Speaker 9: which I would say is a symbol of protest or
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  Speaker 9: at the very least a prop It's certainly not the.
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  Speaker 8: Traditional dress of Australia.
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  Speaker 9: It's definitely not the traditional dress of Pakistan either. If
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  Speaker 9: she wants to try and pull that card yet, she
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  Speaker 9: can come into the Senate wearing a kefia, But when
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  Speaker 9: just center Nama Jimber Price comes in wearing an Australian flag,
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  Speaker 9: she's told she can't do that. So you can wear
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  Speaker 9: a kefia, find dad. You can slag off other people,
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  Speaker 9: make racial insults at thems A, you white people, But
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  Speaker 9: if you come into the Parliament wearing an Australian flag
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  Speaker 9: talking about how proud you are of your country on
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  Speaker 9: National Flag Day, that's what's not allowed.
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  Speaker 8: How does that make sense?
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  Speaker 5: And of course when pulling Hanson made a comment about
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  Speaker 5: Marine Ferruki's Pakistani origin, and perhaps suggesting she should go
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  Speaker 5: back to Pakistan. Marine Ferruki was pretty quick on the
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  Speaker 5: fife to organize lawyers.
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  Speaker 1: So it goes one way, it doesn't go back. The
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  Speaker 1: other doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: And pauland Hanson got done under eighteen C for do
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  Speaker 2: of course no ae'ificing to bother to run a case
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  Speaker 2: about saying you white knoble. But you know, surely fears
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  Speaker 2: fair in love and war and if that's the case,
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  Speaker 2: that should be on the cards too. While we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about fears fair in love and war, the war going
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  Speaker 2: on in the Belize to somehow crossed over. There's been
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  Speaker 2: a piece deal in the works, by the way, I
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  Speaker 2: should note that, but it's somehow crossed over with a
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  Speaker 2: climate protesters in Sydney. Look, I'm not entirely sure how
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  Speaker 2: you make the connection, but they have managed to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You might have seen yesterday there was this floatiller of
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  Speaker 2: canoes that sort of moved their way through Sydney Harbor.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Rising Tide mob and this they say
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  Speaker 2: is not their actual protest. They're going to go up
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  Speaker 2: to Newcastle again like they did last year. And I
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  Speaker 2: thought they had agreed that they weren't going to float
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  Speaker 2: into the water in Newcastle. That was part of the
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  Speaker 2: deal of them getting the permit protest up there. But
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  Speaker 2: never mind, they say this was a rehearsal for the
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  Speaker 2: protests they're going to have in Newcastle next week to
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  Speaker 2: blockade coal ships coming in, etc. But they've had some
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  Speaker 2: overlap now with the Pali rally mob because they were
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  Speaker 2: getting around yesterday with signs saying free Palestine and no
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  Speaker 2: coal for Israel. And then when they got into Circular
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  Speaker 2: Key they got off their canoes and walked up to
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  Speaker 2: Hyde Park because apparently these two issues are exactly the same.
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  Speaker 4: This Zach Schofield from Rising Tide.
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  Speaker 2: He says, people who are concerned about the climate crisis
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  Speaker 2: are empathetic, caring people. So when a supposed ally of
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  Speaker 2: Australia's is engaging in a genocide, we want to speak out.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, we need something to keep us relevant
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  Speaker 2: and so we have decided that forming a block of
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  Speaker 2: these two issues is the way to do it. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, eleven million dollars has been spent so
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  Speaker 2: far and all these Pali rallies, So can you imagine
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  Speaker 2: this is the police cost to monitor them? So can
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  Speaker 2: you imagine if the Palestine people and the anti coal
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  Speaker 2: people start getting together and holding rallies together, by heaven
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  Speaker 2: say there'll be no end to it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you ask, what's the connection between the Rising Tide
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  Speaker 5: and the pro Palestinians, And according to the organizers, it's
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  Speaker 5: empathy and care because they truly have humanity's best interests
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  Speaker 5: at heart. Not the hostages, of course, but you know
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  Speaker 5: they're Jews, so they don't count according to these people.
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  Speaker 5: But I would make the argument to I will dispute
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  Speaker 5: whether they're truly empathetic and caring. But just because you're
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  Speaker 5: empathetic doesn't mean you've got a brain, and just because
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  Speaker 5: you care doesn't mean you're right.
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  Speaker 1: What are they protesting? They're protesting what a peace deal?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the plan?
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  Speaker 9: I also wonder how they reconcile this with the fact
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  Speaker 9: that her Maas built tunnels in Gaza larger than the
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  Speaker 9: size of the London underground, and one of the materials
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  Speaker 9: in our sidety it's notoriously hard to make green, is concrete.
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  Speaker 9: So where is their condemnation of all the fossil fuels
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  Speaker 9: burnt in building the tunnels? What about all the rocket
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  Speaker 9: you'll used to launch missiles? What about all the bullets
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  Speaker 9: and the manufacturing involved in making bullets for harmas.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, the idea that.
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  Speaker 9: If you're pro climate, you're going to be pro Palestine
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  Speaker 9: is just absurd.
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  Speaker 8: But it's because they're not. They're not about either of
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  Speaker 8: those things.
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  Speaker 9: They don't actually care about the climate and they don't
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  Speaker 9: actually care about Gaza. They're probably crazy socialists and when
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  Speaker 9: you look at the photos of this group, it looks
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  Speaker 9: more like a baby boomer social support group. To be
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  Speaker 9: perfectly honest, it's a very sad side. I don't know
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  Speaker 9: why the police are still dedicating so many resources and
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  Speaker 9: what's the threats, like, what are they actually protecting them from?
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  Speaker 8: The threats?
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  Speaker 9: All go the other way, As the Victorian Police Commissioner
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  Speaker 9: put it last week, you.
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  Speaker 1: See disparate groups leverage one another.
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  Speaker 5: For instance, I've always marveled the way the Indigenous Australians
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  Speaker 5: have been brought into the pro Pealestine rallies, and I
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  Speaker 5: think the trade off is by being part of pro Pealestine,
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  Speaker 5: indigenous issues become internationalized and for the pro Palestinians linking
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  Speaker 5: with the Indigenous Australians, then their issue in Gaza becomes
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  Speaker 5: an Australian issue, so they sort of marry the two
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  Speaker 5: and they piggyback off one another. They're using one another
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  Speaker 5: for leverage. There's no real ideological alignment. This is pure
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  Speaker 5: leverage and it's pretty obvious to most people.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course, because once the issue sort of stops
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  Speaker 2: being an issue, so much like Palestine, because of course
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  Speaker 2: there is a piece deal that has begun and is
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  Speaker 2: in the works and hopefully will be carried out to
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  Speaker 2: its end. It means that those people who've been going
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  Speaker 2: out and protesting every week end for nigh on two
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  Speaker 2: years will have nothing left to talk about that and
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  Speaker 2: the law well I know, and a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: they've made it their entire personality. So there's actually quite
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  Speaker 2: scary thought that you're then going to have to find
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  Speaker 2: something else in life to do after that. You feel
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  Speaker 2: a bit purposeless, which is why the mister lease fella
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  Speaker 2: who's been running the Palestine group in Sydney has been
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  Speaker 2: an activist for twenty years. He just jumps from one
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  Speaker 2: issue to the next to the next, because you need
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  Speaker 2: to maintain your elements. But they're so close that they're
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  Speaker 2: so close to actually getting this right, because war is
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  Speaker 2: one of the largest causes of emissions in the world,
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  Speaker 2: and it could have all endered a long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: Hamas has put their guns down and then they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have all those emissions coming out of Israel and Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: But of course the other thing now as well they're
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  Speaker 2: talking about the climate stuff, is that airfares are going
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  Speaker 2: to go through the roof because we have to transfer
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  Speaker 2: to all of these biofuels now. And there was a
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  Speaker 2: summit just last week in Hong Kong, the International Air
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  Speaker 2: Transport Association's World Sustainability Symposium.
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  Speaker 4: God I'm disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have a ticket to that thing, but they
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  Speaker 2: had a speech there where they were told that airfares
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  Speaker 2: between now and twenty twenty five, so that's the next
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years, will go up on three hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty dollars on average, which is about fifty four dollars
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  Speaker 2: a year.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't also count for domestic flights, because,
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  Speaker 2: for goodness sake, if a domestic flight between Sydney and
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne is going to cost your nigh on two grand,
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  Speaker 2: then we are in.
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  Speaker 4: A world of pain.
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  Speaker 2: But of course, this is the thing, is that the
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  Speaker 2: expectation is that the rest of us have.
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  Speaker 4: To pay for it.
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  Speaker 2: We have to pony up the money to do what
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  Speaker 2: the elites want us to do.
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  Speaker 1: And what difference will it make to global temperatures trail?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely none.
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  Speaker 9: And they're saying they're going to have to plant seven
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  Speaker 9: thousand emissions absorbing trees every year at a cost of
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  Speaker 9: two hundred and sixty eight billion dollars a year just
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  Speaker 9: to try and offset their carbon emissions. It's so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 9: But another way you can try to reduce your carbon
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  Speaker 9: emissions is getting an EV, although I wouldn't recommend getting
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  Speaker 9: a Chinese one. Apparently there are thousands of Chinese electric
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  Speaker 9: vehicles parked next to Australia's largest military air base.
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  Speaker 8: Cannot make this up.
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  Speaker 9: There are thousands of evs from the brand Jaku, which
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  Speaker 9: is a sub brand of Chinese automobile maker Cherry Automobile,
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  Speaker 9: and they're parked literally right next to the RAF based
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  Speaker 9: Amblye southwest of Brisbane.
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  Speaker 8: Now keep in mind the United States.
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  Speaker 9: Under Joe Biden, hardly a national security hawk like Trump,
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  Speaker 9: they banned Chinese EV's from twenty twenty seven. In Australia
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  Speaker 9: under Malcolm Turnbull, we said we would not have Chinese
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  Speaker 9: businesses involved in our five G network because it compromises
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  Speaker 9: Australia too much. Meanwhile, we have Chinese electric vehicles that,
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  Speaker 9: with the touch of a button from an engineer over
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  Speaker 9: in China, can listen to everything you're doing, can record
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  Speaker 9: everything that's happening, can also blow.
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  Speaker 8: Up because they've got batteries.
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  Speaker 9: In them, and they are sitting just meters away from
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  Speaker 9: our love Just Airbase.
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  Speaker 8: And this is incomprehensible.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it gets even worse.
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  Speaker 5: In the UK the government have mandated that Chinese made
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  Speaker 5: evs can't be within three point two kilometers of a
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  Speaker 5: military site. And in China, interestingly enough, Tesla's are not
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  Speaker 5: allowed near military sites, Tesla's being of course American.
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  Speaker 4: But also made in China.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of them, well, yes, but some of the electronics.
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  Speaker 5: But then Tony Burke, you remember, was warned by his
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  Speaker 5: own department to be weary of his electric vehicle because
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  Speaker 5: there were concerns that it might be snooping on him
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  Speaker 5: and obtain classified information.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact we've got thousands.
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  Speaker 5: You saw the photos there right beside the Ambly raft base,
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  Speaker 5: and since News Corp ran a story about a similar
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  Speaker 5: site south of Sydney where there are thousands of evs
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  Speaker 5: just parked. No one can work out why they're there
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  Speaker 5: or who authorized it. People have been contacting News Corp
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  Speaker 5: about other military sites ports as well as airports where
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  Speaker 5: there are similar scenes. Hundreds thousands of Chinese made evs
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  Speaker 5: all being stored. No one knows exactly when they were
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  Speaker 5: put there, why they're there, how long they'll be there for.
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  Speaker 1: It's very suspicious and for out.
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  Speaker 5: Of the top ten selling cars last month in this
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  Speaker 5: country were Chinese built evs. This is a increasing problem
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  Speaker 5: that the governments seem to either not care about or
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  Speaker 5: they literally don't know what to do about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Tony Burke. I'm aware of another federal
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  Speaker 2: labor minister who opted was interested in, but ultimately opted
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  Speaker 2: not to take on a Chinese EV because of that
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: concern over being monitored. Quite a high up minister, it
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: should be said, just to park bumbum the security issues
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  Speaker 2: for just a moment, we should also consider that what
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  Speaker 2: appears to me to be dumping of Chinese vehicles in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: because it's not uncommon if you go past major airport
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  Speaker 2: or shipping ports to see new vehicles that have been brought.
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  Speaker 4: Into the country lined up.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pretty standard thing, but it's highly unusual for
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  Speaker 2: them to be put in places far away from where
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  Speaker 2: they've been delivered to, because they get delivered to a
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  Speaker 2: port or an airport and then they're taken off to dealerships.
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  Speaker 2: Generally they're held there for a very short period of time.
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  Speaker 2: But when you've got Chinese vehicles being taken to private
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  Speaker 2: property next to raft bases, or taken to Jambaru, which
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  Speaker 2: is near enough to two hours south of Sydney, You've
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  Speaker 2: got to start to wonder why are they so desperate
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  Speaker 2: to find land on which they can store all of
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  Speaker 2: these Chinese evs Because they are cornering the market, so
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  Speaker 2: they bring too many in, or they bring in more
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  Speaker 2: than they need to supply the Australian market. You then
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  Speaker 2: crunch the market because there are so many of them here.
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  Speaker 2: It drives down the prices of the vehicles, and then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, China's cornered the market and there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure that's what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 9: From an economic perspective, I would not recommend buying evs,
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  Speaker 9: and in China itself, they're having deflation, so they're probably
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  Speaker 9: trying to export all of these evs.
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  Speaker 8: And meanwhile we've.
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  Speaker 9: Got China parking their cars next.
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  Speaker 8: To raft basis.
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  Speaker 9: And then you've got Anthony Albanizi off talking about how
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  Speaker 9: China such a great friend of ours.
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  Speaker 10: We have disagreements and friends are able to discuss issues. Frankly,
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  Speaker 10: I did that. I did that directly. That's what we're
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  Speaker 10: able to do.
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  Speaker 9: Now this comes just a couple of days after the
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  Speaker 9: PLA launched flares at a raf aircraft that was potentially
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: life threatening to the pilot in that plane.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: And he's going, oh, well.
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: You know, we're friends, we have disagreement. Look, there is time,
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: and I think Trump has taught us the art.
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: Of the deal.
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: There is a time when, even to your foes, you
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: act nice, you kind of bring them along to build
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: that rapport. But then there's got to be a time
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: when you stand up and you demonstrate strength. Clearly, we
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: are being tested by China. Now is the time for strength?
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Well, the government's answer as to when will they show
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: strength is always the same frame tomorrow, And it just
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: goes on and on. Doesn't it say what you want
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: about China?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: But they're not friends.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Friends don't circumnavigate your country, how alding live fire exercises
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: off your coast without advising you.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Friends don't park.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Their evs next to your military installations. Friends, friends don't
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: buzz your military planes and ships. So I think everyone
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: knows that the friendship is not that great, and the
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: urban easy is speaking out of both sides of his mouth.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Well, the problem is, as the saying goes, keep your
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: friends close and your enemies closer. And if China is
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: being treated as a friend, it means we are keeping
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: them far further away from us than we ought to
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: because we should beat damn will clear about how we
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: feel about these things acquaintances. Maybe we do trade with them,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't go around calling China a friend.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Indeed, parents would be getting their Year twelve kids ready
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: for exams those are about to take place, and that
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: of course means the end of normal classes and the
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: end of school, which means.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Muck up day.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: And I think we've covered quite a few of those
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: on the Late Debate over.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: But I want to draw your attention to Carmel College
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: that's set in Brisbane. The summb of Thornlands, where last
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Thursday at three pm, the principal sent an email to
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: parents advising year twelve students don't need to come to
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: school tomorrow on Friday, We're going to let them have
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: a long weekend so they can prepare for exams and
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: they're not stressed out.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: A lot of parents were.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Upset because their kids had counted on going to school
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: on Friday as their final day of school, and of
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: course there were rumors that kids would be mucking up,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: including that boys would switch uniforms with the girls and
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: vice versa. And so the theory is that the principal
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: didn't want any of that, and so he canceled classes.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: After an uproar on social media. Later Thursday evening, another
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: advice was sent out to parents saying, Okay, they can
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: come to school, but a warning anybody who misbehaves will
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: not graduate. It's an interesting way of handling things. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: think it was handled pretty badly, and I think boys
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: swapping uniforms with girls is a bit of a prank
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: is hardly the end of the world. In fact, some
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: of the video footage i've scene of school hallways and
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: classrooms being absolutely graffitied and vandalized. You'd think yourself pretty
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: lucky if the worst that happened was a few boys
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: donned a skirt.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And blowers Freyer.
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: This is the classic Markup Day prank. We've talked about
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: this before. We've covered more Markup Day stories. At my school,
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: this was one of the most harmless and fun ways
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: to experience Markup Day.
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: It's not that deep.
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: It's not everyone suddenly coming out as trans I know
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: this school might be a little known.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: The theory has ruined everything.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: It has, though.
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: It is totally ruined fun because everyone is so scared
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: of either offending people or accidentally playing into it. People
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: are just walking on eggshells twenty four to seven. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: I do understand for these kids. You think you're going
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: for your last day and then boom, not gonna happen anymore.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, my school had a dress update I think
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: instead of marck Up Day, like it's just pathetic. Maybe
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: under those rules you could come dressed as the opposite
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: sex's school uniform. I mean, it's just clean fun, isn't it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Like some of the great old ones, you know, the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: bean bag balls in the photocopier machine or letting loose
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: three chickens number one, two and four, and then everyone
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: spends the day looking for chicken number three and all
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: this sort of stuff. I mean, for goodness sake, it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: just good clean fun. They've been doing drags since Shakespeare's time.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: For heaven's sake, we just.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Can't have any fun anymore. And if you've made it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Through twelve years of school, the least thing you deserve.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Is to just blow off a little bit of steam.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: For heaven's sake, we all need to do it from
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: time to time. It's the same as you know, they
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: went after Bailey Smith and all these other people at
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Geelong for you know, dressing up as Broke Back Mountain
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and Caroline Wilson and all this stuff at mad Monday, Like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: just get over it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: It's just it's not as deep as phrase. It's not
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: as deep.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: As some people make it out to be. Now, were
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you going to pull me up on the job?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Look, I was going to, and then I pulled back
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: because I thought maybe I'll come across as a wowser.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: You did the comparison with year twelve students mucking up
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: and AFL football is earning a million dollars a year.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, sure, adults playing dress ups and being idiots.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Baily Smith does act like a twelve year old come across.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Well sometimes oh look a little bit, but that's that's
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that's okay. That's why we brought James back, so we.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Consider provide some balance.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Wowser is in to this program.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And speaking of wowsers in Victoria, where else I know
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: another only in Victoria story.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: But they're so desperate.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: For money down there, the Victorian government, that they're now
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: going after pet owners to drum a bit more extra cash.
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: You.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Like most states, now you have to pay pet registration
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: through your council and the state government compulsorily takes a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: part of that from the council as a tax. Until
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: this point, it's been four dollars and fifty one cents
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: per year per cat and dog that the state government
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: takes from your local council. But now they want nine
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: dollars a pet, so they have doubled basically the tax
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: that they are taking from you.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: And I looked up.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: When I was in Melbourne, in South Melbourne, which was
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Port Phillip Council and a dog in Port Phillip Council,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: a D six is forty one bucks a year, or
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: if it's intact, is one hundred and nineteen dollars twenty
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and for cats to six it's twenty two to ninety,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: or intact it is sixty eight ninety. So you're going
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to have another few dollars put on top of that,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and most people will probably not even really notice that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: they've added another five dollars. But that's the most pernicious
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: part of it, is that the government thinks, oh, well,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: we can just add five dollars on and no one
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: will notice, and we'll make an extra ten million dollars,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: just a bit of cream on the top, and we
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: will get away with it. Well, don't let them get
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: away with it, because if they're going to put an
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: extra five dollars on your pet fees, you can beat
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: your bottom dollar because you'll be down to your bottom
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: dollar that they'll be putting five dollars on this, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: they'll put five dollars on that, and they'll put five
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: dollars on that over there, and all of a sudden,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it adds up to another one hundred dollars that you're
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: spending across various different fees and payments that you have
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to make to your council and state government. Are you
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that desperate that you have to go after the dogs
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and the cats? You put a fifty you put a
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: fifty percent tax increase on ca I mean, and dogs
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: those lay about are contributing to the economy.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Well, there's two point two million dogs and cats in Victoria,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: so if you add it all up, it mounts to
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: about an extra ten million dollars per animal.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: The Victorian government are saying.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: We're going to give this money to animal welfare because
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: that's a major issue in our state.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Somehow, I think the money will end up elsewhere.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: But I'm going to ask you because you are You're
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: a famous cat owner, right, So.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Is that that I famously own cats or I am
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a famous person and I own cats? Just to qualify
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: famous cat owners?
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: You own cats who are famous, and I presume you
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: read to your cats.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So I don't have any animals, but I was looking
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: In Castle Hill, the local government area where I live,
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: you pay two hundred bucks to register your dog or
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: your cat.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: One time for its entire life.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: You're paying that much money in the city of Melbourne
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: every single year. So Victorians are getting ripped off both
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: by their councils and by the local government's like a
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: double hit in Victoria.
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: Well, that's just how broke the state is. I mean,
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: their net dad is going up by two million dollars
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: every hour, and so I think, I mean, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: a government is desperate when they start taxing the dogs.
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: The humans aren't enough.
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: It's the dogs, it's the cats, it's the animals.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Before the Treasure of Victoria was speaking at a business function
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: and asked people to nominate their favorite.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Tax do you remember that they're going to be taxing
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: the wild possums next, just for the right to exist
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: in Melbourne.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: It's beyond mad.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'm imagining it in Donald Trump's voice, saying they're texting
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the dogs, taxing the cats the people who live there,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, goodness.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: It is so bad.
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: Well look, well, one thing that Victoria and the UK
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: probably have in common is that neither of them can
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: manage money, particularly well. Now the Home Department, the Home
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: Office in the UK, it's just been found that they
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: have squandered millions and millions of pounds on these migrant hotels.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: We've covered them a fair bit on this show. There
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: are around thirty thousand migrants being put up in hotels
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: around the UK courtesy of the British taxpayer.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: You're welcome.
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: But now a bipartisan committee has found that the Home
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: Office has allowed accommodation contracts to blow out from around
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: four point five billion dollars to fifteen point three billion
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: dollars and this is just since twenty nineteen. They also
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: have around forty million dollars of debts that some of
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: these contractors owe back to the government that have gone uncollected.
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: So in total this scheme is ineffective. It has not
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: deterred migrants from crossing. They've had thirty six thousand crossings
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: just this year alone, and it is costing so much
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: money fifteen billion dollars now up from what they expected
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: to be about four billion. Now these contracts that they
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: have in place are supposed to go through till twenty
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: twenty nine, so the British people can expect another four
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: years of basically being robbed blind by foreigners coming into
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: the country.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: But imagine this. Imagine if the UK.
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: Government had spent fifteen billion dollars, I don't know, policing
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: the border, cracking down on crime, or maybe actually stripping
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: back benefits for migrants to reduce the incentives to come
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: to the UK.
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: I mean talk about a waste of money.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Fifteen billion dollars over ten years on border control would
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: have solved the problem completely. Back in twenty sixteen, I
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: was at the they used to call it the Jungle
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: of Kla.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It was like a refugee camp in France.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: There were thousands of refugees from typically North Africa waiting
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: to go across into the UK. And I talked with
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: a number of people there and they were clearly not
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: running away from per secution or from anything terrible. Sure
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: their conditions weren't great where they'd come from, but they
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: were clearly running two economic opportunity. I remember talking to
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: an Ethiopian couple and saying to them, you know there
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: are homeless people in the UK. You know there are
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: people who can't and they did not believe me. They
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: honestly thought it's the land of milk and honey. And
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I don't begrudge them for wanting a better life. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: at the same time, the people of the UK can't
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: just open slather or let anybody come in without any controls,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: otherwise it destroys the way of life in the UK.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: But for these people who were lovely people. But clearly
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: they weren't running from persecution, they weren't in a life
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: or death situation that they'd come from. They were hoping
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: to enroll in university, become qualified in medicine, or remember
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: them telling me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And then they arrive in.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: The UK and they're put up in beautiful hotels that
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: costs six times more than other accommodation that could have
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: been leased by the government according to this report, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: the British taxpayer have been footing the bill. And to
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: make it worse, as you said, Freyer, the government bureaucrats
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: overseeing this program have not been watching it closely, as
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: is always the case when the government just shovels money out,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: they just expect things to be taken care of. This
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: massive fraud, massive blowouts and expenditure, and the taxpayers picking
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: up the bill.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: For people who at the end of the day don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: really need.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: It, And you currently blame those people for trying it
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: on because when they see.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: What's offered to them.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Of course, I mean you should have some more compassion
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: for these people, James. Some of them are Algerians trying
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to shield their children from the horror of foreign chicken nuggets.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: All right, let's be entirely clear about this, and let's
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: also be clear. You know I'm about to I'll give
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Sikhia Starma a whack, but it's not just the Starma government.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: This was going on under the Tories as well. When
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it reached its height of about fifty four thousand people
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: in hotels, it was twenty twenty three when Rishi.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Sunak was Prime minister.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And also, to be clear, fifteen point three billion pounds
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: sterling in Australian dollars is thirty one point one four billion. Now,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: if you put that into perspective of what the Australian
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: national budget is, that'd probably be about seven odd percent
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of our entire national budget.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: So that is significant spending.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And of course, if you're one of these contractors who's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: been given a contractor supply accommodation to all of these migrants,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and the numbers have increased again significantly since Starma has
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: become Prime minister, if you've got the opportunity to put
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: them in either a hotel that you're going to get
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a lot more money out of the government for, or
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: in another bit of accommodation, of course you're going to
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: put them in a hotel, and all the people in
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the Home Office are far too busy worrying about all
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the people coming across the channel before they can even
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: think about where they're going to put them when they
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: get into the country.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: So I mean the UK just being robbed blind from
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: every angle.
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: And the contractors, it should be noted that have won
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: these contracts to provide hotel accommodation have made so match money.
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: One of them that was cited in this report is
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: Clear Springs. They've allegedly made thirty two million dollars in
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: profit in six years about sixty million Australian dollars, and
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: another one made thirteen million dollars million pounds, I should say,
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: so incredible sums of money just being washed through the economy.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: And that's the problem. When you have a government that.
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: Isn't actually paying attention to what's going on, you will
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: have the grifters, you will have the people that abuse
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: the system.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: It's exactly what's happening.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Here, exactly. Let's go to the US.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I got to admit I find the Democrats very very funny.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: It was just the other week there were mass protests
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: against Donald Trump and no King's protests because Trump was
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: setting himself up as a dictator, a king for life. Well,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: this week, Democrats are jostling as to who will be
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: the presidential candidate for twenty twenty eight.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: He's Gavin Newsom on CBS.
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: I'm looking forward to who presents themselves in twenty twenty
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: eight and who meets that moment.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And that's the question for the American people, merinis Sis.
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: After the twenty twenty six midterms, you're going to give
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: it serious thought.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be lying.
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: Otherwise I'd just be lying, and I can't do that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Like I said, it's hilarious that they're starting to jockey
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: for who will be the Democratic candidate, because one minute
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: they're warning us there won't be another election.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom again, just recently.
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: I fear that we will not have an election in
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty eight. I really mean that, and the core
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: of my soul unless we wake up to the code
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: red what's happening in this country, and we wake up
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: soberly to how serious this moment is.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Freyo, I'm so confused. Will there be an election in
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight or not?
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: Only if he is the candidate for the Democrat Party,
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: then I think and then I will magically definitely be
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: an election in twenty twenty eight.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: But he's smart.
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, he can't can test the governorship of California
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: for a third term. He's already served two terms. Who
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: are the other options Kamala Harris, who's probably even less
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: liked now after her book pitied to her than she
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: was when she was running for president, So there really
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: are no other contenders. Gavin Knew some consistently polls at
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: the top of the potential nominees, and it's interesting. Over
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: the last couple of months, using social media, he's tried
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: to rebrand himself as dark, woke, take on Trump, use
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: the memes that the Trump administration.
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: Uses and just use it against them, and he's been
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: remarkably successful.
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: So I think he's probably one of the more threatening
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: governors or more threatening candidates that could potentially be in
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: the race.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: The other one that will probably into it is Alexandria
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Acazio Cortiz, who's sort of been getting the backing of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders or seen that he's setting her up for that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: But you know, it'll be interesting to see how Gavin
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Newsome can tackle the big issues.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Hopefully a little better.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Than that very quickly as well, before we get to
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: a break. The New South Wales government, I've just got
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to call them out. They've got this program, the Drought
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Ready and Resilient Fund, two hundred and fifty million dollars,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: which was meant to be low interest loans to farmers
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: who are dealing with drought in New South Wales. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: there was a terrible story in the Daily Telegraph today
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: alleging that public servants have basically been told to find
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: every way to not give this money out to farmers,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and that of the two hundred and fifty million dollars
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that were set aside in November twenty twenty three, nearly
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: two years ago, only six and a half million dollars
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: has been given out. It's hard enough to work the
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: land as it is. These are the guys and gals
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: who keep this country moving.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Surely they deserve better than Indeed, were we.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Going to go to a break.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: including Chris Bowen forced to release advice he got from
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: the Department of Climate Change about just how his policies
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: will affect you. He didn't want to release it, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: he's been forced to and we'll tell you what it
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: says after this. All right, welcome back to the program.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: There's a lot in the newspapers tomorrow. You'll hear it
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: all here. First, Caleb, you've got the Australian.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I do and it says on the front of the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Australian James McPherson's mother loves Caleb Bond, or at least.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: That's what I was told in the ad break.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: I was telling you during the break, my mum thinks
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: you're pretty great. She'll be watching now and thrilled that
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: you mentioned.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I just had to get you to say that to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: balance out the celebration we did at the top of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the program for you.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: You know, we've just got to balance the egos here.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: But on the more serious business. On the front of
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: the Australian tomorrow.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Speaking of egos, a man who has won about as
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: large as his forage is Chris Bowen. It says Bowen told,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: bills will jump, electricity prices will climb, and the mission's
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: reductions need to be excelerated rapidly if the Albanezy government
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: is to reach its key twenty thirty climate target Chris
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Bone has been warned in documents the Climate Change Minister
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: and his bureaucrats tried to keep secret.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: And you'll remember this story. We're talking about it the
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Mister Bone on Monday bowed to mounting pressure and finally
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: released previously withheld briefing documents presented to him by the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water at
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the start of the new parliamentary term following Labour's May
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: election victory. Heavily redacted Volume one of the incoming government
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: brief prepared for mister Burne was released just days after
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: The Australian revealed that the Clerk of the Senate, Richard Pie,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the top level parliamentary officer and chief procedural Advisor, had
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: labeled the department's rationale for withholding the document as not acceptable. Now,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: the pertinent stuff that goes on to saying this story
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: is that there's a whole bunch of redacted passages, including
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: one that's almost fully redacted that's just called other departmental
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: policy areas. No one knows what the hell that is.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: But the important stuff in the unreacted passages is warning
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: that there will be quote a further significant increase in
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: retail electricity prices in this financial year, and that you
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: need to rapidly quote unquote increase renewable energy in order
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to meet your emission's target. Now, look, we probably already
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: knew that anyway, we're not learning anything particularly new here.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: But what it does confirm is that the bureaucrats were
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: telling mister Bowen of this when they won the election
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: in May.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: And for mister Bowen to fight hard to not have
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: this advice, even though, as you say, it's nothing really
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: we didn't already figure out ourselves, but he didn't want
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: it officially out there in the public.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: By the way, when they say rapid.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Cuts to emissions, what I hear freyer is government intervention,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: because the only way they're going to meet their twenty
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: thirty target and then thirty five beyond that, according to
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: the advice, seems to be if they get involved in
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: the market and manipulate consumer behavior.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and as the proportion of renewables in the electricity
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: market increases, well oder prices. Yet Bowen and Labor have
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: continued to panel this live. I think if they can
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: just say it enough times, Australians.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: Will magically believe it for vintage.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: It's the cheapest form of managy because you know, the
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: sun shines and the wind blows.
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: It's actually super cheap, guys, No, it's not.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: We are a renewable energy superpower.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I've looked at my bill. It's bloody cheap.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: As I can't believe what you people are on about.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Another story on the front of the Yods tomorrow Iranian
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: who send evil to our shores with his black skiv
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: and form coat. He looks the ess essence, sorry of
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: a Middle Eastern gentleman. Yet this is the face of
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the Iranian terrorist who broke the heart of Melbourne's Jewish
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: community by ordering the torching the Adas Israel Synagogue, among
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: other violent anti semit attacks in Australia. Israel spy agent's
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: agency Sorry Mossad has revealed that senior IRGC Coods Force
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: commander Sada Amah was behind Iran's clandestine international campaign to
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: sow terror an inflamed division in Australia and across the world.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: They also revealed details of attacks in Athens and a
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: plot involving Jewish sites in Berlin that had been linked
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to this chap and that under his command. He had
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: eleven thousand operatives across the world. So it's clear that
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: we were not the only targets, and I think we
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: probably gathered we wouldn't have been the only targets. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: this is a seriously organized operation from Iran to sow
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: division around the Western world.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: The other irony here, of course, Freya, is that Mossad
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: are doing a great job helping to keep Australians safe.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: How did Azio know that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: There was an Iranian plot? I'm sure they know because
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Mossad let them know. So demonize Israel all you want,
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: but thank God for the Israeli secret service doing a
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: good job of helping keep Australian safe, probably a better
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: job than the government.
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, that's exactly right.
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: And now we know that there are thousands of IIGC operatives,
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: we need to find where they are in Australia and
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: how the Iranian regime is managing to connect with them.
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: It sounds like they're going through intermediaries using sites like
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: Signal encrypted messaging apps.
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: But that is not okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: If a foreign government can recruit essentially domestic terrorists for
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: the purpose of inciting violence and creating division in our
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: country that is not okay, I.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Will just say not saying it is the case, but
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: maybe we want to look at the fact that there
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: is a large crime gang operating in Victoria that is
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: run out of Iran. Maybe we should be talking about potential.
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: Connections exactly well in the Northern Territory in US tomorrow.
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: Really horrendous case here rape victim shock girl thirteen given
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: to now convicted rapist back with family behind the arrangement.
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: A thirteen year old girl beaten and raped by an
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: almost thirty year old man partnered to her under an arrangement,
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: is still in the care of the family who facilitated
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: the relationship. So the family who put her in this
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: situation or she is now back under their care.
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: Just horrendous.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: We don't have access, sadly to the rest of this story.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: We've just got the front page. I'm really curious to
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: read the details of this one because for this to
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: be allowed to happen, someone.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Needs to be held responsible. You know, it's outrageous.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I get that the courts generally favor the idea of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: putting children back with their families in some way, whether
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: it's extended family or whatever, but surely in a case.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Like this, it's just child protection.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: You would have thought, so, you absolutely would have thought.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: So let's go to the front page of the Daily Telegraph.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: We'll go to the main story.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: First, Bonker's red tape costing business a fortune. First sign
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: of madness, reads the headline. The story reads, a Sydney
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: business owner was forced to fork out fifteen thousand dollars
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: and wait more than a year to install stick on
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: signage outside his shop in an example of the red
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: tape madness costing New South Wales businesses five hundred and
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: seventy million dollars annually.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: This guy was running an embroidery shop.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: He just moved a couple of streets from his original
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: location to open a new store, and all he wanted
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: to do was put some stickers on the front windows
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: of his shop.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: He told the Daily Telegraph.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: I felt like I was trying to submit plans to
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: build the Sydney Opera House. Such was the information I
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: was required to submit in order to be approved, and not.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Just buy one.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: But you have to have two certificates from the council
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: to have some stickers on your shop front window. You
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: need an occupation certificate and a compliance certificate fifteen grand
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: more than a year sitting on his hands waiting for
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: some bureaucrat to say you can put a sticker on
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: your front window and they expect business to somehow, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: be profitable and create employment and spark economic tact.
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: Well, it's a miracle there are any businesses left in some.
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: Of these councils. To be perfectly honest, it's so once.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: What a time you had to get your pen license
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: at school. Now you have to get a sticker.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: License just quickly.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: The other story there on the Daily Telegraph Fed's book
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: at Border Card Overhaul, the federal government is refusing to
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: confirm when Australia will embrace the digital age and banish
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: the embarrassing pen and paper arrivals form for inbound travelers.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: But it could be a frustrating five year weight. They
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: contacted Tony Burke's office, and Tony Burke's office did not
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: give a response as to when Australia will get rid
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: of that pen and paper format you have to fill
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: out every time you come back in the country. I've
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: always wondered why we're still doing that and who reads them?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe, but I mean, if that's the worst thing
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: you've got to deal with. Get over and I reckon
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: and just quickly another story in the front of the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: advertisers of our can't get over this. Crims get easy ride,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Faceless bureaucrats on a Correctional Services Department committee.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: This is in South Australia.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Are sending criminals home for detention before their non parole
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: jail sentences end to the department.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Someone in the department is.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Letting people go home before they've even come up for parole.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: How is this possible?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: That is one of the great mysteries. But these mysteries
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: keep happening, and that is frustrated that everybody.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a break.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: When we come back, you won't believe the move. A
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: truck driver pulled on Brisbane's story Bridge yesterday, plus massive
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: storm in Queensland yesterday at Ipswich.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: We'll show you what it did to shopping trolleys. All
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of that and more in a moment. Welcome back.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the US where the former members of
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: the Biden administration priyarer doing tours, releasing books, giving excuses.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: It just never read.
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: This does feel like a bit of a throwback to
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: the pre Trump era when the US was so woke.
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: But former Biden White House spokesman Karine Jean Pierre is
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: alf promoting her new book Independent, and when asked whether
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: she regrets anything about her time with Biden, this is
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: what she said.
• 46:29
  Speaker 12: I woke up every day very proud to be the
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: White House Press Secretary. I woke up every day as
• 46:36
  Speaker 12: a black woman who is queer, who had never no
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: one had ever seen someone like me at that podium,
• 46:43
  Speaker 12: standing behind that lecture.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: It was an honor and a privilege to have that job.
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: The fact that they did have a queer black woman
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: as press secretary is probably the only accomplishment of the
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: Biden administration. One might say. I mean, I don't think
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: there was much else. She did talk about the cover up,
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: the border crisis, not she was just proud to be
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: a queer black woman.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: She mentioned only two of her three qualities black true,
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: queer true. You've got to mention absolutely hopeless at her job.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: So but there you go. Every interview she mentions as
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a black queer woman.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you got to hold onto something, you know, James, I.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Suppose, So I tell you what if you're in Brisbane yesterday,
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: trying to get across the story bridge. You would have
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: seen something you would not see probably ever again the
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: driver of a massive truck.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: You can see him there.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: He was heading across the bridge when all of a
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: sudden he realized he probably wasn't going to fit under
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: the main structure, and so rather than continuing on and
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: threatening damage, she decided to do a U turn in
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: the middle of the bridge. I guess that's what you
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: call choosing the least worst option.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: And opinion was.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Divided to Caleb over whether he was an absolute idiot
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: and should have planned his trip better, or whether he
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: was an absolute superstar. Talk about driver awareness. He realized
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: ahead of time made a correction. Not easy to do
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: a you turn in a vehicle that big on the
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: story bridge.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I reckon he did well.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: He pulled it off too.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Look, I think under the circumstances he made the right decision.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: And you'd rather that than crash into the bridge.
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: Well, that is how I felt learning to drive in Balmain.
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: Like you're driving a truck and trying to do.
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: A U turn on a bridge. It was horrendous.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: You should see how I get around the streets of
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Balmaine and the UDA five.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: You know there's forty kilometer in our speed limits. No, no, no,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: I'm a model driver, absolute model driver.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But you know, to paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, you turn if
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you want to, and so will.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I am in the truck.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: By the way. While we're in Queensland, they've been having.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Terrible weather up there. You might have seen over the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: last couple of days.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yesterday in Ipswich, think of the trolleys. Have a look
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: at this. It's trolley apocalypse, in which.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: The winds, the high winds are so bad that the
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: trolleys are like I'm out of here and they're just
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: taken off down the street.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's bad enough. Looks like they're having a race.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: It's bad enough all these people who take the trolleys
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: home and leave them on the side of the street.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I mention the cleanup after that one.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Hey, look, if a storm can put the trolleys back,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: you can from us to the ground coming up.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Because the reta pennies show good Nune