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ITB: How Will Changes In Command In Washington Impact Philadelphia Eagles? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on everybody? It's
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher, It's Adam Kaplan, and we're sitting here in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of February. And Adam's got a great idea,
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  Speaker 1: says to me, you know, there's so much change around
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  Speaker 1: the NFC East, all the coaching staffs, which means not
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  Speaker 1: just people, but philosophies and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go through it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what the Eagles will have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty six. And I thought, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense. So we're going to do is have
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  Speaker 1: a three part podcast series here. We're gonna look at Washington,
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  Speaker 1: We'll look at New York, We'll look at Dallas. We'll
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  Speaker 1: go through all the changes they've made from either head
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  Speaker 1: coach to coordinators on down, and we'll explain what that
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  Speaker 1: means for them philosophically and how that will impact the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles and Odam the We're gonna focus this first episode
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  Speaker 1: on Washington. But the reasons why I think this is
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  Speaker 1: a really good idea is because I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you heard John Harbloss say this, but during his introductory
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  Speaker 1: infear view with the Giants, he said something to the
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  Speaker 1: effect of we have to build a team that's good
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  Speaker 1: enough to beat the Eagles. So the Eagles came up
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  Speaker 1: in the press conference, and you know what's amazing to me,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles have kind of dominated the vision, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for so long. They don't win it every year, but
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  Speaker 1: they probably they've wont it more than any other team
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  Speaker 1: over the last twenty years. Nobody's ever come in and said,
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  Speaker 1: we need to be better than the Eagles, even though
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles have clearly been the class of the NFC
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  Speaker 1: East for quite a while. But it reminded me of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of conversations You've probably had them too, with
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  Speaker 1: people from the AFC North, from Pittsburgh, from Baltimore. They
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  Speaker 1: always talk about and it's not just the philosophy, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a scouting mantra, like you need to bring in
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  Speaker 1: players to win cold weather December and January games against
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers or if you're the Steelers, against the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: because they know those are the teams that are ordinarily
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  Speaker 1: fightening it out and they kind of build their teams
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  Speaker 1: to beat to win that division and beat those other teams.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a really interesting thing for I thought, for
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  Speaker 1: Harbor to come out and say.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it is. So out of the eight offensive defense coordinators,
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  Speaker 2: six of them are new. Okay, that's a lot. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: former first time play callers. So that's that was the
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  Speaker 2: genesis of this. It's like, okay, what is there a
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  Speaker 2: lot different in this division? Yes? Wow, holy smokes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you talked about the philosophy change and then scheme changes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's what you're gonna get here. There's
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  Speaker 2: just gonna get a lot of new looks. And then
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  Speaker 2: with the first time play callers because they haven't called
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  Speaker 2: plays before, then you look at as we do. We've
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  Speaker 2: done this now for nine years. We look at the
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  Speaker 2: coach's background. We broke down Sean Sean Manny in about
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  Speaker 2: fifty different ways about what it might look like. That
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  Speaker 2: one could be super cool. But when you get to Washington,
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  Speaker 2: you've got two first time play callers and that's where
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  Speaker 2: we get started today. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, but very very young. So that'll be that makes
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  Speaker 1: the interesting. That makes the division very interesting. There's also
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  Speaker 1: a theme and you can branch it out past the
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  Speaker 1: NC East, although we'll probably see it within the coaches
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  Speaker 1: that we do here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I was always told you're not supposed to chase a scheme.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to chase a coach. But it's hard not
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  Speaker 1: to think with some of the hirings, especially guys you
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  Speaker 1: have no play calling background but come from a certain
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  Speaker 1: tree that you wonder if a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of the scheme chasing was going on this
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  Speaker 1: year in the in the coach coaching turnover cycle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Eagles did that with Chip Kelly. That
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  Speaker 2: was a mistake. Yeah, they went for the they went
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  Speaker 2: for the scheme, the system, yep, everything that Chip brought
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  Speaker 2: in and unfortunately a lot of it didn't wind up
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  Speaker 2: happening right for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 1: But you could argue the manual hire the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: No play calling experience, which we were shocked that they
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  Speaker 1: wound up going that route, but a scheme, a West
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  Speaker 1: Coast offense scheme modernized that has performed really well in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's again the backgrounds. You know, you're looking
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  Speaker 2: for background. So what I find about as we get
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  Speaker 2: started here with David Blough, who's been promoted. He was
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  Speaker 2: the interim quarterbacks coach last season for Washington. He didn't
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  Speaker 2: for he's never run a room for one full season
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  Speaker 2: so that's a big deal. Now. They did not want
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  Speaker 2: him to go. They were worried. I was told that
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  Speaker 2: he would go with Ben Johnson, that something would happen
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  Speaker 2: that someone else would hire him away. And so they
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  Speaker 2: promoted him at thirty years old to offense coordinator, first
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  Speaker 2: time play caller. And they don't really have like a
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  Speaker 2: safety net here. It's kind of like, okay, but the
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  Speaker 2: thought here is that you're going to see a lot
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  Speaker 2: more under center. I know that talking to someone who
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  Speaker 2: would know they're gonna get Dan Daniel was actually understanded
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  Speaker 2: more than people think. But it's there's gonna be there's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a decent amount here of Ben Johnson. He
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  Speaker 2: was with Blows with Ben Johnson at twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: right before he before he retired from being a third
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  Speaker 2: string quarterback. And then you know he was he was
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  Speaker 2: with Cliff Kingsbury here, uh so for two seasons. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how much of Kingsbury he brings in,
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  Speaker 2: how much of bench outs. So that's the beauty of
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  Speaker 2: this thing because you don't totally know exactly what you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see there.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. He was also he was a player for the
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals in twenty twenty two blow. And is that was
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  Speaker 1: Petsing still there at that time or was that a
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  Speaker 1: different regime.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was Petsing's first No, yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. Kingsbury was there, right, Kingsbury was was
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, still with the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Gannon was the head coach in twenty three. Yes, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: So so it's interesting that he he blends that I
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  Speaker 1: played for Ben Johnson and I played for Kingsbury. I
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  Speaker 1: just coached under Kingsbury. He may have an interesting blend
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  Speaker 1: of both of those guys, which are two different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no idea how much of But
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  Speaker 2: I had heard that he wants to have the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: on our center. Now they're they're going. Now here's what
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  Speaker 2: I do know though where I believe it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: more West Coast and more Ben Johnson's West Coast. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The the belief was that when they made it, when
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  Speaker 2: they went away from Cliff, they let the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: coach go Bobby Johnson, who does not have a background
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  Speaker 2: in that scheme. Though. They did a great job. But
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  Speaker 2: the run game stunningly was very productive. I just with
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  Speaker 2: the and their line was great. I mean, Josh Carnelly
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  Speaker 2: was phenomenal, played right back on his life. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really really started to play well at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Yeah. But they did keep Cliff Kingsbury's right
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  Speaker 2: hand man, David Rye, who's the tight ends coach but
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  Speaker 2: apparently super smart, probably one of their best offensive assistance.
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  Speaker 2: But the big to move this along here, the big
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  Speaker 2: deal is, the big deal is blow now calling plays
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  Speaker 2: and it's just fascinating. And then they've got we'll do
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  Speaker 2: a free agency overview at Intel when we get closer
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  Speaker 2: to freegency for Washington. They've got a number of free
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  Speaker 2: agents on offense, but not most of them are not
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  Speaker 2: important other than Deebo, Samuel zach Ertz unfortunates come back
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  Speaker 2: from the second ACL injury. Right, They've got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of decisions to make, and it is remarkable how things change.
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  Speaker 2: Where two years ago they shocked the world at twelve
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  Speaker 2: and five, and then they got boat raced by the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: But but when they wanted Detroit this in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they handled Detroit now detroited the injury. But
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  Speaker 2: it was a great win and everyone's thinking you know
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  Speaker 2: it with a lot of veteran players. They became the
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  Speaker 2: all the oldest team in the National Football League. Oops. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that turned out to bite them a ton of injuries
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  Speaker 2: and a pretty big regression for the club.
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  Speaker 1: I think what I'm most interested in finding out with
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  Speaker 1: the David blow Higher was what was Dan Quinn looking for?
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  Speaker 1: Because if you're looking for the Ben Johnson type offense
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  Speaker 1: which runs the ball diversely and very well, they actually,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, they actually ran the ball really well
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  Speaker 1: last year. The Commanders they had to think a top five,
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  Speaker 1: top ten rushing offense and their line played well. So
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  Speaker 1: is it the passing concepts that they wanted something different from?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, obviously did the Lions two years ago
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  Speaker 1: and the Bears last year did expand their passing game.
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  Speaker 1: But I always thought that Washington's issues last year were
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  Speaker 1: more injury related then scheme related. But clearly dan Quinn
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  Speaker 1: wanted something something different related what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm told it was. Uh, they clashed Kingsbury and it's
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  Speaker 2: very strong willed, very brilliant, got like super smart, but
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  Speaker 2: he clashed with Quinn. Quinn and Kingsbury did not see I.
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  Speaker 2: I on the offense where it was headed. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they round that you just mentioned it. They round the
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  Speaker 2: ball really well. I mean, in fact, they had great
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  Speaker 2: protections built in uh to the to the scheme, that
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  Speaker 2: was not the problem. But they just didn't see II
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  Speaker 2: on how they wanted the game called. And he just
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  Speaker 2: it's rare than dan Quinn's not. Dan Quinn's very patient,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you really don't want to keep changing
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  Speaker 2: coordinators for young quarterback. Yeah, Daniels have a second play
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  Speaker 2: caller and a guy's never called play is to move
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  Speaker 2: the forward here. It's a major gamble. It's a major gamble.
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  Speaker 2: Cliff was a great fit to be honest with Daniels
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  Speaker 2: Manila dqting. I mean I had heard very strongly from
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  Speaker 2: someone who would know that the DK was like, now
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  Speaker 2: we're changing this way. I don't like the what I'm seeing.
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  Speaker 2: In a smaller way. It reminds me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of Schottenheimer and Pete Carroll. Yeah, I could see that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Not Pete's was really like, hey that
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: we gotta win. We gotta run the football right, and
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: Shotty was super aggressive throwing it and Pete didn't like it,
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  Speaker 2: whereas here they just didn't see eye to eye on
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: how the things should be called and functionality. Whatever the case.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they moved on blow. I look forward to go
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: to their training camp. I want to see what this
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  Speaker 2: thing's gonna look like. The mysteries. Great, he hears things,
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: but until you see it, you really don't know. Yeah,
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: On defense, they have a new defensive coordinator who's going
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: to call the plays to Ron day Jones. He was
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: working under Brian Flores in Minnesota as their DB's coach
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  Speaker 1: and past game coordinator. We're seeing a lot of this
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: these guys, you know, like this is Christian Parker. He
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: was the Eagles DB's coach pass game coordinator. Now he's
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensive coordinator. So this is another interestinglong is
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  Speaker 1: this we knew when dan Quinn liked when he did
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  Speaker 1: call plays, which he did not until, like I guess,
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  Speaker 1: he fired his guy last week halfway through last year.
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  Speaker 1: But as a play caller, dan Quinn liked the blitz
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas, that was his thing. He was a man
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: coverage blitz guy. In Seattle he was not. He was
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  Speaker 1: his own cover one, cover three type guy. Obviously, when
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: you bring in a guy at him from Minnesota, from
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  Speaker 1: Brian Flores, you're expecting something that is looking like a
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores defense, which is a lot of blitzing.
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  Speaker 2: Unorthodox though, because yes, and he could, he could put
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  Speaker 2: in fronts that are what are called unscattered looks. And
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  Speaker 2: Jones had Jones' longtime college assistant and an NFL assistant,
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: but this is his first time calling place. By the way,
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: then the Commanders had nine or ten coaching changes, including
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: the coordinators actually at least ten, and then offensive asistant
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: defensive assistants. So Eric Henderson they brought in, who's a
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: really good D line coach, who did very well for
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: the Rams, who used to be with USC as a
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  Speaker 2: co defensive coordinator. So that's a good hire for them.
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  Speaker 2: They made some adjustments. They move guys to another position
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: on defense or give him a new title. William Gay,
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  Speaker 2: you might remember as a corner for the Steelers, he
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: got a position. Now he's a cornerbacks coach. John Pagano
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  Speaker 2: a former defensive coordinator. Yep, we know his brother Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: John was a defensive assistant. He's now the outside linebackers coach.
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  Speaker 2: Daryl tap we know former Eagles Eagles edge rusher, he's
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  Speaker 2: now the assistant d line coach. So yeah, they've made
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  Speaker 2: a lot of changes that It is remarkable to me.
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  Speaker 2: You set the world on fire two years ago. You
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: look bad. You mentioned Joe Witt, who was reassigned midway
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: through last season. Quinn took it over. But the word
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  Speaker 2: around the club was that Quinn did not want to
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  Speaker 2: call the plays. He just had to do it because
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't working. Defense was terrible for a while. They
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of injuries, as you said. But now
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  Speaker 2: he's heading it off. And I mean Dan Coinn is
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  Speaker 2: on the hot seat. It is what it is. I
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  Speaker 2: mean is. You don't like to say it after two seasons,
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  Speaker 2: but when you're making massive changes on both sides of
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  Speaker 2: the football, you're already telling people not you weren't happy
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  Speaker 2: with your staff.
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  Speaker 1: And it is what it is, absolutely, And I like
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  Speaker 1: what you said about the Flora style.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just blitz. You're right, It's not just I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna throw five guys, six guys at you.
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  Speaker 1: He is a master, a master at coming at you
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  Speaker 1: from an angle that you did not expect, showing an
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  Speaker 1: overload on one side, dropping those guys, bringing a slot
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  Speaker 1: from the other side that you He's just a really
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: good schemer at breaking down your protection scheme. We talk
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: about that a lot and how important that is. How
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Vic does it in a different way. Vic breaks it
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  Speaker 1: down and he sometimes doesn't even send more than four
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: most of the time doesn't send more than four, and
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: he still figures out a way to break down your
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: protection scheme. But Brian constantly his defense and this is
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  Speaker 1: what I think Deronte Jones will bring here to the commanders.
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  Speaker 1: Has you constantly making calls and checks at the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage to make sure you know where the mic is,
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  Speaker 1: where the blitz is coming from.
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  Speaker 2: Setting your protections.
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  Speaker 1: It throws you off and it makes you think very
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  Speaker 1: quickly post snap. So those kinds of defensive been challenging
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  Speaker 1: at times for Hurts, but there's also times where he
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: rips them apart. So it's kind of hard to tell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and with Floris, it's not like anyone's
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: really running his defense, so you don't really know exactly
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: what Jones is gonna do it. Quinn turns is turning
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the defense over to him, So is he does he
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: still want you gotta let your antia Jones do his thing.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Now what his thing is, We're not exactly sure. Well,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: we'll learn more. It's gonna be mostly Flores is gonna
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: be a combination of Quinn. Quinn runs a forty three,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: but it looks like a thirty four based on alignment.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is this is fascinating. Now they're a team.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Before we we move on from this one, their defense
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: was so old. Although there I know that they're really
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: happy with Trey Amos, who got hurt last season, but
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: before he got hurt, he was really really good. Man.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: They have no edge, They have no edges. They need help.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: They definitely needed for the scheme.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Need pass rushers. Yeah, every scheme does. But they need help.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: They need help up front in a major way with
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: with with edge help. So we'll see what happens. But
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: they're a team that's there's it's a big mystery and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: what they could be because they don't they're not super
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: talented right now. It's certain positions. They're young talented, but
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they just need They went for the over the Hill Gang,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: which is the old uh watt for the Washington Redskins.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: For those of you are Commanders fans would know, the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: over the Hill Gang was the team that made the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl against the Dolphins. I think Billy Kilmer and
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that group, and yeah, I know, I know. It's it's crazy.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so there you go. There, that's watching a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: lot of change. As we mentioned at the top here,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: his division has been flipped.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: How about those of coaches, A couple of a couple
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of recognizable names there on on David Blouse Staff, Wes Wilker.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yep, who got a he got he got a new title. Yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: he was a offensive he was a personnel analyst. He's
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: been a receivers coach before. Darnell Stapleton you might remember
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: him from the Steelers as a backup lineman. He he
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: now is the he was the assistant a line coach.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: He's now the on line coach. And this is the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: interesting one. DJ Williams Doug Williams son legend, Super Bowl legend,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and Redskins legend, and bucks who beat the Eagles in
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: seventy nine as a quarterback part of the box. DJ
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Williams now went from coaching the quarterbacks with the Falcons
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: now to the Commandos.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Another team runs the ball. Falcons they know how to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: run the ball diversely. They did with the Jon Robin
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: who is there?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Zach Robinson was the Oh yeah, moving on to Tampa. Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I I just curious did Washington hire a senior offensive
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: assistant because what's the escape hatch if Blouse overmatched. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: know they're not thinking that way, but if it doesn't work,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I just wonder what they're going to do.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: No, you're right. I mean everybody's pretty young on this
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: staff now and there are no experienced play callers there,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: so that is, uh, it's a little bit of a risk.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm looking now, I'm looking to see, well, Danny Etling,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I remember him from the Patriots's assistant quarterbacks coach. Yeah, non, no, no, oh,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you know who would be? I'm sorry, you know who
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: would be? Who's that? Almost certain? Brian Johnson. Oh, he's.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if he was still with them or not. Okay, yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I believe, Yeah, he's the he's he has assistant head
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: coach title. He's a past game coordinator. No, yeah, that's
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a good question. I don't believe he left. I don't
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: believe he left.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: So I know he had done an interview with somebody,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so I wasn't sure what his status was.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I thought he was. I'm assuming he's staying. I'll look
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it up, but I assuming he's staying. Yeah, I think so.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that's still pretty young. I mean he's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: one he's played call, he's called place for one year
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and obviously was fired after it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So we did call him in college? Yeah, he was
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: uh Colein Prince's OC at.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Florida, Florida, right, he may have also done it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I think he was in Houston at one point.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, So that is our look at
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the Commanders. A lot of changes, sweeping changes for a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: team that went five and twelve.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: What team do we do next? Pot, Adam, I'll let
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you choose. Oh, the Giants. Oh yeah, Johnson did interview
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for a similar job with the Cowboys, right, which I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: would ask, Okay, is he coming back? They didn't hire anyone,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that the commander didn't hire anyone to take this job.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: It's just kind of kind of weird if his contract up. Yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it's kind of odd.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one might be a TBD to be determined
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on whether or not he's the guy. All right, So
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in the next pot, we will get through the Giants
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: major major changes, offensive changes, front off changes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: All the changes. But we'll get through that.
• 22:02
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• 22:05
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