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#492 - John Mackk · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Is Don mac Oh my god, check me out on
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  Speaker 2: you can listen to at Yeah that makes sense. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: let's get to the interview, all right, Bootleg CAV Podcast. Man,
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  Speaker 2: special guests in here, John Mack in the building. The
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  Speaker 2: most buff rapper we've had in here for a very
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's been a while since we've had someone
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  Speaker 2: is yolks. John knack in here. Welcome. Appreciate you, bro, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you. What's your workout regimen, Sir? I do it.
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  Speaker 2: I do it three on one split, So explain what
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  Speaker 2: that means. That sounds like gymnastics. Sounds like a stripper
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  Speaker 2: moved one split on stage. Motherfuckers make a raine. What
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  Speaker 2: does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: Niggas said, I have magic Mike. So look, it's like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's so three day. So let's say my my split
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  Speaker 1: start Monday, right, So Monday, push pool, Tuesday legs, Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: push puol, Thursday off, then Fridays start over, push pool,
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  Speaker 1: Saturday legs, Sunday push pull, Monday off.
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  Speaker 2: You get it. So push puol is you do back
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  Speaker 2: and chest on the same day, So yeah, I do buy.
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  Speaker 1: I do biceps in chests on the same day, and
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  Speaker 1: then I do back, shoulders and triceeps on the Thursday, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then legs on the second day and then fourth
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  Speaker 1: day rest. But like so legs get their own day
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  Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah for sure, that every time, bro.
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  Speaker 1: So basically I really be in a gym like six
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  Speaker 1: seven days a week. Yeah, forel me like six days
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  Speaker 1: a week because it's three on one so which you go.
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  Speaker 2: You're are you here in La? Are you in the bay? No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the bay. Okay, okay, Yeah, you surprised they
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  Speaker 2: have the hav't bited the gym yet taking all the
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  Speaker 2: fucking equipment. Little niggas crazy. Yeah, what's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 2: Look you're from Oakland. Uh. The only in and out
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  Speaker 2: to ever close in the history of in and out
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  Speaker 2: is in Oakland. Yeah. Uh, what's happening out there? Man? Bro?
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  Speaker 1: And they was spinning close, they got they got the
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  Speaker 1: canes out there. I think in Berkeley, Berkeley.
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  Speaker 2: Is not that's different, right, Yeah, but it's they you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's close enough for me. And they was goinna
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  Speaker 2: close that down too. I don't know them. Little niggas
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  Speaker 2: just ignorant, Bro. They're hungry. Niggas don't want a job,
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  Speaker 2: niggas don't want to feel me, so they rather just steal. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like uh. In like l A, we have
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  Speaker 2: fetanahl and homeless people. And in the Bay you you
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  Speaker 2: have fetanah homeless people and exactly show have you been bipped? Nah?
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  Speaker 2: By a grace of God, thank God, you're not stupid
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  Speaker 2: enough to leave anything in your car no, he'll no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be moving around a lot though, So sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I had something in there like feel me.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I got you know, you know John Coston.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone knows John Coston, the oldest youngest guy in the Bay.
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  Speaker 2: He's got like this really bad hairline. I might maybe
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  Speaker 2: if I seen him. Yeah, if you if you've seen him,
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  Speaker 2: you would know him. He lives in the Valinci here
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  Speaker 2: fox Sake, but he leaves like his like his trunk open. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: so he can let him know, like, bro, there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: in here. Yeah, like leave me alone. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: to worry about the putting the claim in for the
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  Speaker 2: broken window and there's nothing in exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you do. You lead the what is it
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  Speaker 1: the arm rest? You lead that open, and then you
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  Speaker 1: lead a glove department open. And then would he do
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  Speaker 1: lead a trunk open? They gonna know like, ain't sent
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  Speaker 1: in here, but I ain't gonna waste my time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You seem to have gotten a lot of motion
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  Speaker 2: out of the Bay, which is you know, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I feel like I was hearing about you, like
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  Speaker 2: independent of Bay area people, which is different because most
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  Speaker 2: of the people from the Bay you hear about them
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  Speaker 2: because some people from the Baby telling you about him, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so you've caught you caught a couple of records that
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  Speaker 2: been going crazy, but uh while being independent, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: like fully independent. Yeah. Like there's like people who are
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  Speaker 2: from the Bay that are like independent ish, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: you're like independent independent like distrc kid independent yep, yep,
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  Speaker 2: I upload my own shit. Yeah. So what do you
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  Speaker 2: think is kind of like the secret to like your success,
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  Speaker 2: Like things that you've been able to kind of do
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  Speaker 2: that you know, you feel like have worked for you
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  Speaker 2: outside of making good music, Uh, to be honest, consistency.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just keep dropping, I keep dropping,
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  Speaker 1: keep dropping dropping, and then like, bro, I'm a student
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  Speaker 1: of the game before anything, So like I study like
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  Speaker 1: the popular music right now. I study certain ship and
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  Speaker 1: how certain shit go viral or what song go viral,
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  Speaker 1: what they talking about in the song and what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing in the song, and what they're doing the viral
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  Speaker 1: tiktoks to the song, and then I just cater to
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  Speaker 1: that in a way, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So you're you're like, for example, like this new record
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  Speaker 2: you got, Natalie just jumped on the remix, was that
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  Speaker 2: a record you like intentionally made, Like, Yo, this shit's
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  Speaker 2: gonna go absolutely thousand. This is the formula I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know how to make this work on these platforms.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely absolutely, And it's crazy, right because shout out
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  Speaker 1: shout out Natalie none too. But like when I made
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  Speaker 1: the record, I was in it. I was in the
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  Speaker 1: lab with my engineered combat.
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  Speaker 2: And uh and uh.
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  Speaker 1: I made it all right there, and I'm like, all right, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna let it. I'm gonna let the second.
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  Speaker 2: Floor the hook breathe, bro, and add add.
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  Speaker 1: The camera sounds because the camera sound's gonna make them
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  Speaker 1: pose when I say posed for me, right, So I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: it's TikTok right here. And then I did it, and
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  Speaker 1: then I dropped it. It start going viral. I wrapped
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  Speaker 1: it on Instagram first. It did like six hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: of me just wrapping in the car, right, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to drop it.
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  Speaker 2: So I dropped it.
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  Speaker 1: When I drop it, it's start going viral, right, And
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  Speaker 1: then Natalie tapped in with me. And so when Natalie
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  Speaker 1: tapped in with me, she's like, I fuck with this,
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  Speaker 1: like you did a video to it, I'm like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't she like let me jump on it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, bet, she like write me a verse, feel me?
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  Speaker 2: So you wrote verse yep.
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  Speaker 1: So I went to the lab and then I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a stool when I when I make her verse, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like like TikTok shit. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I'm saying this because I'm piggybacking off the TikTok shit.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm in a stool and I'm thinking of like
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  Speaker 1: TikTok shit that I make the girls like go crazy, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I got to
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  Speaker 1: explain something on a girl body part to make them
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  Speaker 1: like feel themselves as fat, slim diick no, tell me
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  Speaker 1: you feel me, and that's something that that they eat up.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, that's hard. And then come on
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  Speaker 1: with a chant feel me. And that's when that's when
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  Speaker 1: that baddies, you know what I'm saying. And so then
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  Speaker 1: when I made it, bro, I kid you not. I
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  Speaker 1: told my brothers and my engineer. I'm like, bro, I
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  Speaker 1: guarantee you this go viral. I promise, bro, I promise.
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  Speaker 1: They're like all right, Bro, it's good let's see feel
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  Speaker 1: me right, we drive that motherfucker did numbers. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: Natalie too, she'd go, she got, she got a following man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? For show, Yeah, I feel like people be underrating,
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  Speaker 2: like people fuck with Natalie, they do she got. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what show she'd be on because I
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  Speaker 2: don't watch that of that ship, but I just know
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  Speaker 2: she fuck you book her out a club. People come
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  Speaker 2: go crazy for it too. For sure. For show. Yo,
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  Speaker 2: that's crazy because I feel like there's like a uh,
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  Speaker 2: there's like a thin line between like doing something like
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  Speaker 2: on purpose, like I guess you would say like you
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  Speaker 2: would always hear like certain artists say, when you chase
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  Speaker 2: a hit, it never it comes across integrator inorganic as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to when you just do it organically and then
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  Speaker 2: it happens to be it. Right, So you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: doing like you're you're kind of walking the thin line
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  Speaker 2: because would slow it down like for you because that's
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  Speaker 2: all I mean, that's two years old, right, So it's
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  Speaker 2: like for a record like that, was that something that
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  Speaker 2: you made with that same approach or did it just
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  Speaker 2: was it a record that just kind of took off?
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  Speaker 2: It was a record that just took off. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So like at that time, I was just recording like
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  Speaker 1: hell of different shit, and that one I just recorded,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't even gonna drop it, and I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, at first I did not like it.
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  Speaker 1: I recorded it and it was supposed to be a
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  Speaker 1: second verse on it, but I told my engineer, I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: just just just render this, just bounce this shit out
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  Speaker 1: and then just send it to me very it's good,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm cool, I'm not even feeling it. And then
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  Speaker 1: we bounced it out. I ended up keeping it. All
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  Speaker 1: My people around me was like, bro, that's a banger.
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  Speaker 1: Bro dropped this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like real, They're like, yeah, wrote the fuck send
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  Speaker 2: this to me.
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  Speaker 1: So then I ended up dropping it on a time
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  Speaker 1: where I needed something to drop, and I just dropped
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  Speaker 1: the MP three with a lyric video, and that motherfucker
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  Speaker 1: went fire.
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  Speaker 2: Roy a year later, a year later, a year later,
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  Speaker 2: what the fuck that shit it was? You already move
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  Speaker 2: off of it because it was already out, Like you
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  Speaker 2: were like, man, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it just came back yeah, like like but
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  Speaker 1: it was like one of it was one of those
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  Speaker 1: things to where you know, you check your U yo. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what is it Apple for artists is Spotify artists? So
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  Speaker 1: it was always at the top in one of my
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  Speaker 1: top stream songs, right, So I see I added in
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  Speaker 1: little videos when I do certain ship, certain highlights with
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  Speaker 1: my cousins or something, I put the song behind it
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  Speaker 1: and ship and then that motherfucker just ended up picking
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  Speaker 1: up catching steam And I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck? That's crazy? Wow, Yeah, that's crazy how
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  Speaker 2: that works, man, especially with like the internet, Like you
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  Speaker 2: have a two year old song that just goes fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: How many remix did you did you end up doing
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  Speaker 2: with that record? Like a hundred?
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  Speaker 1: I know it was pretty no babies on one Mazi
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sherm uh heen busy damn, And I think I
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  Speaker 1: think that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a lot. Yeah, that's like five. So between
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  Speaker 2: like all of the remixes, which one did the best? Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sharam the sher Man. Yeah. By the way, Mike
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  Speaker 2: Sherm is very underrated. Yeah. I feel like when we
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  Speaker 2: talk about the Bay, that dude's got a couple of
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  Speaker 2: platinum records. What's the that's the guy and he's like
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  Speaker 2: he's also independent as fuck. Yep. It's crazy. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: they try to figure out how he do it. Bro,
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  Speaker 2: he still sell shit out. Yeah, for sure, he's been
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  Speaker 2: doing music just like he been popping, just like twenty
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  Speaker 2: seventeen or something. I don't know. Asshole is just one
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  Speaker 2: of the greatest club songs of all time if you
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  Speaker 2: are on the West Coast, especially if you're in the Bay.
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  Speaker 2: But absolutely, yeah, but they play his shit.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: He played shit everywhere. Yeah, I'm you know, I want
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  Speaker 2: a club and AZ that shit goes up there. See Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that shit crazy bro. For sure. It's interesting too because
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  Speaker 2: there's these records that, like, you like, like uh, Little Blood.
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  Speaker 2: Third World is like a record that like you won't
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  Speaker 2: understand until you see it get played at like a
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  Speaker 2: concert YEP in the Bay and then be like what
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  Speaker 2: oh shit, or like New Oakland from like mister fab
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  Speaker 2: Like YEP. There's like those records that you're like, you
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  Speaker 2: don't understand how big these songs are unless you're there
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  Speaker 2: when they get played, because you can even like those
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  Speaker 2: two songs you could play in LA in the Bay. Though,
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  Speaker 2: Shit's hit different, crazy crazy Little Blood performed that when
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  Speaker 2: I opened up for YG.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was New Peerish or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Blood Little Blood performed there. Yeah, Bro, they went insane. Yeah, insane.
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  Speaker 1: His podcast is dope.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to him. Yeah, shout out to bro for sure.
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  Speaker 2: He's uh he just didn't he interview He interviewed Gavin
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  Speaker 2: newsom mmmm he did real Yeah, crazy interviewed Gavin fucking
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  Speaker 2: new some Yeah that's crazy, It's fucking wild. Shout out
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  Speaker 2: to a Little Blood for you, man, Like, what is
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  Speaker 2: it about being independent that you enjoy? And I'm assuming
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  Speaker 2: you've turned down tons of deals at this point, so
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  Speaker 2: like where are you at with that in terms of
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  Speaker 2: just like are you keeping it pushing? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Well, right now, Bro, we just really focused on like
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  Speaker 1: just building, Bro. I'm trying to I'm trying to like
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  Speaker 1: dial in on my brand and just just build report.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to sign right now for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of pennies. I'm a stay indie. Put me and me,
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  Speaker 1: me and the team gonna put our own bread behind
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  Speaker 1: it and just push this ship because we got this
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  Speaker 1: far doing it, so like why would I just fuck it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to sign right now for a few hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand that's crazy, No, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: we just building brom I'm gonna be Indie for the
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  Speaker 1: next like however long and then when the labels talking,
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  Speaker 1: would you ever.
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  Speaker 2: Do a single deal just a one off? Uh? It depends, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it depends. Yeah. I mean I feel like that'd be
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  Speaker 2: the only thing you should consider. Yeah, that's it. Otherwise
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna fucking Like you said, you might get a
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  Speaker 2: couple of hundred thousand, but then you know you're chained
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  Speaker 2: to the machine, and exactly then you can't drop how
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  Speaker 2: you want to drop. And I got to ask permission
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  Speaker 2: and get clear and fuck all that. Exactly uh do
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  Speaker 2: you have? Is there is there a body your work
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  Speaker 2: on the way I know I was looking at your
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  Speaker 2: Spotify you this is something that I saw you did
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of people I think should do. And
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: that's if you're just sitting on songs that are never
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  Speaker 2: gonna come out, you drop something. It was called like
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: empty in the Vault a couple of years ago, yep,
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  Speaker 2: which is like, yo, if you got, if you got,
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  Speaker 2: like like fans, don't leave that shit on the fucking
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  Speaker 2: hard drive though, like, just drop it.
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  Speaker 1: Get rid of that shit. You might as well for
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  Speaker 1: me too. I don't be wanting people to think my
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: old songs is my new songs because I got better
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  Speaker 1: since then and I changed since then, so I gotta
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  Speaker 1: label it something like empty in the vault.
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  Speaker 2: They know it's old, so they understand it's not some
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  Speaker 2: current shit. Exactly, are you working on a project right now?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just working on music period, bro, Like I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not really planning on dropping a project just because
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm big enough to drop a
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  Speaker 2: project right in my own head, because like, attention spans
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  Speaker 2: is so short now. Yeah, always say if you don't
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  Speaker 2: like you just said, like, I mean, look, you, I
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  Speaker 2: think you're big enough to drop a project. But if
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  Speaker 2: you have that thought process and you're like, Okay, if
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  Speaker 2: I put out a twelve song body of work, that's
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  Speaker 2: one impression to the algorithm, Yeah, as opposed to dropping
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  Speaker 2: twelve songs exactly, having twelve shots exactly, Yeah, exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I think of it too, just dialing on
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  Speaker 1: each song. Now, if you drop a body of work
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  Speaker 1: or some ship you drop in the next fucking five months,
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  Speaker 1: you drop five songs, and then that sixth month you
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  Speaker 1: give them them five songs.
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  Speaker 2: With like two extra right, that's different for sure, something
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  Speaker 2: like that. But if I don't do that, then it's
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  Speaker 2: just straight singles. Yeah. Have you been able to connect
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  Speaker 2: with the rustle at all out there? No? I haven't. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's fucking going crazy. Yeah, he been going crazy for
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  Speaker 2: show doing his He's just doing his own thing, bro,
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, it's pretty crazy. Honestly, it's interesting. I went
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  Speaker 2: to his house a couple of years ago, the pergola
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  Speaker 2: where he's performing it. Yeah, yeah, crazy, that's what That's
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  Speaker 2: what it's called, the pergola. Yeah yeah, yeah, so he's
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  Speaker 2: calling the purgola is what he built. It's like a stay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what. It's like a stage, but it's
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  Speaker 2: fucking wild. Yea. His dad was barbecuing, they had the merchant,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: the garage. It was pretty sick culture. Yeah, Bro, he's smart, oh,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: super smart for sure. There's something about the babe where
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: y'all just like got this fucking grind that nobody else got.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, absolutely, bro.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: I'll be driving five six, seven, eight hours just I
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: just I just got here, Bro, just like like twenty
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes ago, straight.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Drove, push pushed through all man. I'll tell you that
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Beta La drive is interesting. Yeah, because it's like cool,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: there's like some outlet malls, but then there's just like
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: that patch of farmland. Yeah, and you're like, damn, this
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: is where all the Republicans in California.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm moving there though, I'm gonna give me some
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: less farm.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: That be a fucking Bakersfield before, you know, a dog show.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Oh god for show? That shit crazy for you? Man?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody who is because I always feel like
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the beta LA relationships very important and it's been important
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: over the years. Is there anybody in LA? I mean,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: obviously you work with three with No Baby, But anybody
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: in LA that you you feel like you've you've got
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: a good relationship with that you want to make some
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: more music with. To be honest, not really. I fuck
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: with everybody though, but who I really fuck with?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Uh? He's super underrated. One take Jay, Yeah that's my boy.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: He was just up here. Yeah, Yeah, that's my boy.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I fuck with him heavy. Wait hold up, Tripp, hey
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: be wrapping his ass off?
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: He do?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: He do? Bro?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: And like Kaylyn, I fuck with Kaylan shit heavy too
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: because he kind of like in the same lane as
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that I am. As far as the females, you know what,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, so I fuck with Kaylan shit too heavy?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: And would you say most of your fans are chicks? Yeah?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Majority majority? Yeah? All right, so you got, uh, has
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: there been someone who's done a TikTok to one of
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: your records that tripped you the funk out where you're like, oh, ship, uh.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah Kylie Jenner, Kylie did a TikTok? Yeah,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Kylie ye, Kylie was one, and I was like, god damn.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: And Haley Haley Bailey. I think Haley Bieber and Haley Bailey.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Oh oh that's uh yeah, Chloe and Haley yeah a
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: little mermaid.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think she was doing no, no. The
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: other one her sister, her older sister.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Right, I don't know which one's Chloe. Which one? I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: think that's Chloe, Uh, the older one. The older one's Chloe.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: The younger one's Hailey. Hailey is a little mermaid. That's crazy.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Haley was is DD's baby momy Yeah so Chloe yeah
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: shouts her. Hey, what is the is the Kylie Jenner
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: effect real? Like what? I'm just curious, like because you
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: always would hear like that. The Kardashians and the Jenners
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: have like the power to change the record's trajectory. So
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: from like the day before she posted TikTok to like
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the day after, what is like in the estimation, what
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: is the spike you get off of something like that?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't even know, bro, See, I'd
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: be geeking on that shit. I'd be like yo, because
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I would like it's like a stimulus package. Yes, it's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: like you know Drake post you're something.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, that's everybody was in my in my
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: DM and sending it to me.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody hear me like, bro, congrats as if I just
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: got a fucking multi million dollar deal. For sure, I'm like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I like that. And you did all that without signing,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: which is amazing because you know, most people they feel
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: like they have to sign and get those bigger opportunities
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: because they think there's some like you know, secret deal
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: between the label heads and the Kardashians or these It's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like nah, dog, like sometimes it should just be happening.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I wonder for you, do you feel like because I
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: feel like the one thing that like labels help with
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: or district companies can help with is like sink opportunities
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and like maybe like putting songs in like NBA two
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: K shit like that exactly. Is that something that you
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: feel like you've noticed is like a little harder to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: make happen. Yeah, being just you and your team Yah. Yeah, Yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that's that's definitely, uh on the difficult side obviously, because
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: with that, with every path you take, right, there's like
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: there's good and bad. Yeah, you know, so there's like
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: easier things like obviously you know, you might get an
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: upfront bag instead of you. I'm sure you have a
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: nice monthly check that hits that account every every every month.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I always wonder because to me, that's like
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: the main thing that sticks out of my head. Well,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like it's like, well, those video game companies they usually
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: deal with like a certain amount of folks, you know
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So, like you're like super stripped down independent.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I just wonder if it makes it a little tougher
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to kind of get into some of those like situations.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: That's because it comes with resources for sure, So if
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you don't got to miss a little more difficult versus
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: like being with them and they already having those resources.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's fair. I want to be in two
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: KO bro, you will be Yeah, absolutely, two K always
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: shows love to the bay. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, yeah, Yo,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: your hair is interesting. I say that because I've never
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: seen the fake Look there you go, and then the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: standalone the stand alone sideburns, the ice pigs. So it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the ice picks. Is that okay, I've never seen that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: It's it's original. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the ice pigs.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this, but they was roasting me on
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Instagram and ship for hell along about my ice pigs.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, just like a thing that you're owning. Yep.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So I've been doing it since I was in like elementary,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Me and my little brother, my mom been keeping our sideburns,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: but it was a little different. Obviously it wasn't like this.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: But when I start getting when I start getting this,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, I'm not cutting my sideburns. I've been
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: keeping these forever. So for me, this me So when
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you see a nigga.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: With this and the ice pigs, they got the John
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Mack Yeah for shure, that's fair. For show there it is. Man,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Well look congrats on everything. Yo. You're killing it independently
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and that's that's a lot. And and you know like
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I said, there's a lot of people from the Bay
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and they're independent ish for sure. It's you independent as fuck.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh that that shit's dope to see, man,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So keep keep keep on keeping.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I know you got a new record out, uh yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: and then I'm assuming you just got more singles coming.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell is hit. My question to you is
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: give me some advice for other artists that might be
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: watching this. Let's say you do have a record that's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: going crazy, is it? It's I feel like people think
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: mentally that they can only push one thing at a time. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: so they're like, well, if my song is going crazy,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: if I drop something new, then I got to move on.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: That's not the case, and you could push old shit exactly.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So like, what is that strategy for you? Because I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: feel like a lot I feel like artists overthink this
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: content shit that overthink promoting their own music for some reason.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: It's just like it feels like for some people it's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: like the hardest thing to wrap your head around.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I get like that sometimes too, But you just
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: gotta do it, bro, just do it. Just you don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: got none a louse, Like promoting your music is not
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: losing anything. The worst come to worsh it don't go viral,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but we're not. We're not trying to get a viral
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: moment anyway. We're trying to get them to you know, surface,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: towards the towards the old ship. I still promote old, old,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: old songs, like I shoot content for everything and still
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: post my old songs from two three years ago, and shit,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: so smart is so like it's like, now I got
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a bigger buzz than I had two three years ago.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So you might be able to You might be able
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to catch it another hit.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: From hell long ago, you feel me, because they ain't
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: never heard it, so if they hear it, they might
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: be like, the fuck it's new.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They gonna think it's new and then gonna listen to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it and be like, oh this old.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I fuck with this. So it's like, just promote those shit, bro.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Even when you drop a new single, you don't have
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to wait fucking three months to drop another one. Fuck
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that four weeks, drop another one, two three, you know it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Don't just keep promoting both. So now you got content
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: for two different songs, so you're not posting the same
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: song the whole time. You could post a different one
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: real quick, switch it up and then go back to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that one and then you know what I'm saying.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So I love it, man, Yo, artists take notes, all right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Did you ever see that clip of Tyler the Creator
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: saying that, Like, there was this clip of him talking
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: about how like how crazy it is that that artists
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: are so passive with promoting their own ship. Damn, I
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: don't see that. He was like, Yo, it's your ship
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and all you're gonna do is throw some shit up
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: ont of your fucking story on good Like, what the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: fuck is that your music? What are we talking about? Yeah? Exactly, Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. Exactly. You supposed to have like a hunting
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: post of that song, to be honest. Where can people
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: find you online?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: On Instagram at John Underscore, mac j O h N Underscore, m.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: A c KK and uh yeah, be safe out in
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the bay man, Yeah always you know, ship, keep them
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: fucking windows down, dog, Robie under Bro.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I got five percent tent all around my own play
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like that I'll be and then I don't keep nothing
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in my whip.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So Stayt's Stockton too out there, Jesus Christ. I felt
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: fucking Northern California's wild. They fucking did you see in
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Sacramento they pillaged the road Wave concert. They got up
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: in the motherfucking King's venue and they fucked up all
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the concessions. That took all the birch out of that
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: bubal hell. Yeah. Did the show get canceled? Yes, but
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that's why because everybody was waiting outside and his productions
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: all fucked up, so they were going to cancel the show.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: But people were waiting until like seven forty five outside
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and then they announced that it was canceled. Oh so
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: they just turned the fuck up. Okay, that's just that's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: justified for sure, Ye justified. Fuck it, that's crazy though,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Like to beat my ass anyway, I appreciate you for
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: pulling up man, appreciate you for having me back there.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: It is you already know fire