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Ep. 292: Chewbacco and the Avengables · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: with me for the soundboard. You look like you're like
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  Speaker 1: your DJ and a wedding or something. Your seats higher,
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  Speaker 1: your seats higher, and everybody else. I'm on the least
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  Speaker 1: comfortable seat. It's a high stool, but I chose a
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  Speaker 1: can send the comfortable poets. Oh, you're great up there.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you if you want. Man, we got ahold. This
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  Speaker 1: is like a this is a giant lip cancer convention. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Like, so Taylor, we call you. Are
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  Speaker 1: you spitting that thing right now? No, I've got my
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  Speaker 1: mouth dropt from being out here. We just got out here.
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna pack one in now. I was sending
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  Speaker 1: it right now. Are you gonna spit into that little deal? No,
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  Speaker 1: it's in there right now. Yeah, I just go up
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  Speaker 1: top with the pouches. That's why I switched to the pouches.
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  Speaker 1: So I can I can save h I can I
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  Speaker 1: can do it while the sound check. Yeah, we're yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want I want to get into that upper deckers
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  Speaker 1: and all that, and Jared, we're gonna get We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do intros. We're gonna end on Jared, he's gonna explain
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  Speaker 1: that little that little Halloween themed um spatune. They still
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  Speaker 1: called the spatune. Yeah, yeah, that's a portable spatuon. So
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  Speaker 1: you can tell you with you it's not one of
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  Speaker 1: them old brass one and it's got a big well
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  Speaker 1: let's just talk about right now. It's called what it's
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  Speaker 1: a mud jug, so it doesn't spill. Now, it doesn't spill.
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  Speaker 1: It's got a weight to bottom and uh, you know
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  Speaker 1: you take the punel right off with your two thumbs
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  Speaker 1: and wash it out. Women love them. I can imagine
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  Speaker 1: smell resistant. How many how many days can you chew
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  Speaker 1: before you have that thing full of spit? I mean
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  Speaker 1: it just depends on the dipper, I guess, but like me,
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  Speaker 1: probably two days. Can we describe what this is? Jared's
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  Speaker 1: on a podcast. Yeah, it's so I'm gonna go out
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  Speaker 1: of order. So what was that? So Taylor called the musician.
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  Speaker 1: You've been on the show before, but you're back because
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  Speaker 1: your album's coming out, and then we're gonna skip. We're
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  Speaker 1: getting a round of some other people and then um,
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  Speaker 1: Jared outlaws here. Yes, how the hell you describe yourself? Like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: just a guy, like a guy. I'm just a guy,
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  Speaker 1: like like a very very popular. Like you got into YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about all this. Yeah you got into YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: like doing funny stuff. Yeah yeah yeah, and then uh
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  Speaker 1: yeah doing outdoor, doing outdoor stuff like fishing and on.
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  Speaker 1: But then it seemed like for a while the only
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  Speaker 1: thing people cared about was what you got in your lip,
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  Speaker 1: and that was like kind of the start of me
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  Speaker 1: like a dip content pretty soon, like just making vidges
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  Speaker 1: about dip. They just they just do uh can you
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  Speaker 1: can you explain something real quick? Um? And then I
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  Speaker 1: want to get to this petune Taylor you Oh, my
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  Speaker 1: wife's going to thanks for those tickets very well. Is
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  Speaker 1: that sold out? It's been. We set it up ten
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  Speaker 1: days like prior to coming out here and sold out
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of days, which is nice. So and
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  Speaker 1: my neighbor likes that venue a lot. That's where we record.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you a little bit of local uh something.
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  Speaker 1: We record v O four our Netflix show at that
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  Speaker 1: same place. Really, they'll smell me in the circle and
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, my wife's going to see I gotta I
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  Speaker 1: gotta live town. But my wife's gonna check you out. Anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: he was saying. Taylor Becaull was saying Jared that when
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  Speaker 1: he was seventeen, he used to watch your dip videos.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what the hell that means. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I kind of know him because we used
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  Speaker 1: to watch his dip video and I used to have
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  Speaker 1: this routine. I would before my parents got home. I
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  Speaker 1: would scurry home, smuck a little grass, order pizza, and
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  Speaker 1: put in a dip and dip and watch his videos
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  Speaker 1: till my parents got home, and then I had to
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  Speaker 1: hide the dip can in the grass and then pizza
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  Speaker 1: would be going. Then we're saying, all you said is
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  Speaker 1: it's not the first time I've a ritual, man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the early days of like dipping. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, I don't know something about it. Just it's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, watching a hunting show while you get
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  Speaker 1: to kill something. It was I think it dipping as
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  Speaker 1: the thing, um not being not a dipper myself, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think of dipping as a thing where you took
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  Speaker 1: in media about it. Now weed smoking is always been
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  Speaker 1: a right, right, Yeah, Like that's like a whole genre
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  Speaker 1: of there's like a music film right totally, it's got
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  Speaker 1: its whole thing, totally, the whole thing about it now
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  Speaker 1: it is like you think country musicians like they'd be
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  Speaker 1: dipping in stuff where it's like it's actually kind of
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  Speaker 1: on its way out in the industry. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like one of the ones that's like I'm I ain't
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  Speaker 1: afraid to be a little man sometimes, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, you're young enough to still
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  Speaker 1: be man. Yeah, okay, Jared, uh I got no question
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  Speaker 1: for you. Um one thing that I took interested me
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  Speaker 1: about you is, uh you did a couple of seasons
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  Speaker 1: commercial fishing in Alaska, like person or what. No. So,
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  Speaker 1: first year was setting it. So I went up there
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  Speaker 1: and um that's where I mean setting heating is basically
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  Speaker 1: all by hand. And the first year was in the
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  Speaker 1: cook inlet out of Keen Eye, and uh so that
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  Speaker 1: was that was brutal as far as um. I just
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  Speaker 1: remember the captain that I had, like when he was
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  Speaker 1: calling me, I was living in Florida at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and he would call me. He's like, are you strong.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta make sure you're strong, and uh I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm strong man. I've been to the gym like four times.
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  Speaker 1: And uh so I went up there and you know
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  Speaker 1: when I was I think I had just turned nineteen
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  Speaker 1: and um so first year was setting it and then
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  Speaker 1: I did a little bit of cod fishing and halibut
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  Speaker 1: fishing around there, and then second year went up for
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  Speaker 1: the cod was it traps pots? Yeah, and so baited
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  Speaker 1: and they just got like wings go out. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: you you you can beat them. And then they have
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  Speaker 1: like you can long line for him to kind of
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  Speaker 1: the same way you do halibit, Like you'll go out
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  Speaker 1: in your longline holibit and you can you know, rock
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  Speaker 1: cod or something like that off the bottom um. And
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  Speaker 1: then the second year went out and I was on
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  Speaker 1: a guild that boat in the barn Sea. So I
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  Speaker 1: was in out of Port Mooler, which is Gilnton for
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  Speaker 1: what salmon in the summers. So uh yeah, so you're
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're catching everything from red silver's, pinks
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  Speaker 1: kings and uh like gilnuton in the estuaries. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you're we would basically just run the Allusians and all
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  Speaker 1: the way up to like you know, we're uh where uh,
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  Speaker 1: what's the Deadliest Catches filmed in Dutch Harbor were like
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  Speaker 1: just south of that or just east of that and
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  Speaker 1: uh and you're kind of just throwing through the islands
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  Speaker 1: and just trying. How old were you when you were
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  Speaker 1: doing all that. I think I was. I turned twenty
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  Speaker 1: one on the barn Sea and I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: it was my birthday. It was like, uh, I think
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  Speaker 1: that was my last year up there. Yeah, you were
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  Speaker 1: just like in the haze of daylight. Yeah, we were
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  Speaker 1: the salmon run hit. So my birthday is May and
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  Speaker 1: so the salmon run hit. Uh. The red started running
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  Speaker 1: like a couple of days before my birthday. And I
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  Speaker 1: think we went like I mean, I don't even know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I can barely remember because we never slept.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you watch Deadliest Catch, it's no joke, like
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  Speaker 1: it's you just don't sleep. Especially music. Yeah. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: uh so I was up probably in that time for
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  Speaker 1: over two days straight. Um. And plus my I I
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  Speaker 1: had the shitty end of the stick because my captain
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  Speaker 1: had arthritis, real bad so he couldn't pick fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well this is this Yeah, this is my second year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and uh so he had our throats real bad in
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  Speaker 1: his hand, so he couldn't pick fish. You know when
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  Speaker 1: you're when you're you're picking fish. I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work, and it's a it's a quarter mile
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  Speaker 1: long net and so your in it in on the
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  Speaker 1: hydraulic drum and you're you're just slowly picking fish out.
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  Speaker 1: And when it's the run, you've got ten thousand fish
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  Speaker 1: in the thing, you're pulling kings over and he's just
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  Speaker 1: standing there looking at you, like, go faster, faster. Are
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  Speaker 1: you sorting all those fish as you pull them off? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So we had like brailers in. We had like so
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  Speaker 1: on this I think they call him Bronco boats. But
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  Speaker 1: the so ever, you do all the work off the
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  Speaker 1: stern of the boat and the wheelhouse and everything's up front.
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  Speaker 1: It's not as big as the boats you see on
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  Speaker 1: you know, Deadly's catch. But um so the gill net
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  Speaker 1: is directly in the center on the on the back,
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  Speaker 1: and you know you you've got fish holes directly unto that.
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  Speaker 1: So we have the tops open sometimes like during the
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  Speaker 1: samon run. We would just be I'd be picking fish
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  Speaker 1: and and just throwing them on deck and then sorting
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  Speaker 1: them later, because you're just trying to get him in,
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  Speaker 1: get the net back in the water as fast possible.
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  Speaker 1: But you we're you making good money doing that? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I thought, you know, everybody kind of goes
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  Speaker 1: up there thinking it's kind of he goes out to
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  Speaker 1: get rich. When I was a graduate school, my roommate
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  Speaker 1: would go up and do uh he'd do the cannary runs. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he come back with some decent money. Man. If
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything for months afterwards, well, if I
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: worked for like Peter Pan or something the canaries up there,
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  Speaker 1: I would have made more money, which I would have
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  Speaker 1: hated that. I mean, at least when you're on that
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  Speaker 1: boat fishing, when you get you know, you get killer
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  Speaker 1: whales coming up and humpbacks and you get to see
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  Speaker 1: ball eagles all the time and stuff. Again. But but uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the cannaries is rough, you know. Um, it's not like
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  Speaker 1: his adventurous Yeah. But I mean if we like the
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  Speaker 1: two years I was up there, the salmon runs didn't
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  Speaker 1: produce very well. Um, I kept trying to remember the
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  Speaker 1: years I was up there. I think it was two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: ten and eleven. Uh, two thou nine and ten maybe,
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  Speaker 1: and the sand and runs just weren't producing that well.
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  Speaker 1: And um that second year. I mean, when you're a
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  Speaker 1: fisherman up in Alaska, it's all about networking. It's all
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  Speaker 1: about who you know, the captains. You know. I had
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  Speaker 1: a job ready for me on a crab boat that winner,
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  Speaker 1: and uh. I came back home and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna go back up. Man. My
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: guy like, they don't guarantee you. They give you a percentage,
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: you know, but it's uh from what I was here,
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  Speaker 1: and they're just like, you know, I mean, I'd rather
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  Speaker 1: go back to Yeah, so that what's up, Dirt? I
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  Speaker 1: have a dip in commercial fishing. Little story. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I did a season per saneing, but I haven't I
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  Speaker 1: haven't reintroduced yet. I'm dirt. Yeah, you know what you're
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: like famous now? Me and Chester working our asses off,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: making that boneapp video with Bradley on and then you
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  Speaker 1: get famous off and you weren't even there. There a
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  Speaker 1: spirit and actually I've had more people recognized me and
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  Speaker 1: Helena from that video. Then ye stuff. Yeah, me and
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  Speaker 1: Chester could have been saying good stuff about ourselves, right,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm like, oh, I'm the greatest man ever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Brassle the bear whatever. I could have said crazy stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but stead we talked about how cool you were, and
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: they made like a thing about how a cool yard.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're like famous to be a Chester just nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Well I'll share one now that I'm famous. When I
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: see an opportunity, all oh, I let you guys, let
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: people and they better put a graphics element in like
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  Speaker 1: that the Bona people did for you. Yeah, that was nice.
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  Speaker 1: It was really nice. Made me smile. Oh, super famous.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I feel different. No, I got I got
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  Speaker 1: nervous seeing you come in. My hands are shaken. Jester's
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  Speaker 1: dirt man in person. But no, this is you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you I'm the one set because you realize we souls.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this petune, this is DIEP
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  Speaker 1: related and I just want to make sure. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I did per saning out of Catchkan or near there,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we sometimes do sets for the hatchery, and
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  Speaker 1: so we had a tender that would come up. We'd
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we'd purse the net and then they'd come.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't put it on deck. We put the fish.
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  Speaker 1: The tender would suck the fish out of that is right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for the hatchery because then they transformed when it goes
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  Speaker 1: to that. Yeah. But so one of the tender operators,
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  Speaker 1: this guy Justin, he'd he'd have a dip in, he'd
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: be smoking and he'd be doing the sniff snuff. What's
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the term for that snuff? Yeah, you know, I mean
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: like when you're doing like three tobacco products, the trife,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. So but so he's doing, he's doing
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of I mean, I was young and I
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: was a cure, but I was like, that guy's definitely
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: going overboard. A month later passes, they come back out.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I said, where's Justin? And now they're the tender captain
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  Speaker 1: said he was in the hospital for internal bleeding. What's
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that called internal bleeding? I feel like ruptured something ruptured artery. No, No,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: he was in he was in the hospital because of
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: it something like that. He'm a topin or something memorrhoids.
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  Speaker 1: So he was in the hospital dirt here because because
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: of the overconsumption of nicotine products. Yeah, So the next
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: time he comes out, he's in the hospital for overdoing it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So they admitted him for like too much tobacco, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which caused the internal bleeding. And so when he came
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  Speaker 1: like a month later, they're back out and he's back
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  Speaker 1: on the boats. Oh, good to see justin glad. You're good.
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  Speaker 1: He's smoking and chewing still, but he's not doing the
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  Speaker 1: sniff to that was his. But he cut back. He
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  Speaker 1: cut back one of the tective pieces he did. He
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: did a thirty three percent reduction up the people up
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  Speaker 1: in Alaska, man, I mean, when you're talking about nicotine
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  Speaker 1: up there on fishing boats, it is insanity. Case explained
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  Speaker 1: to displaying the deal the mud joke. Yeah, I tell
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  Speaker 1: your story first. Yeah, it's about that. Well, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to this by the end of the entire duration. Years ago,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: years ago, I was day and a flight attendant, and
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I remember we're out one of our first ever dates. Man,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and uh, we're out shooting pool at a bar and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: like I went to have sipped my drink but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't my drink. Yeah, yeah, and you know what, I
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  Speaker 1: just grinned and bared. I didn't say anything to her
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  Speaker 1: about it. Could tell what it was. Listen. Oh no, nothing,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not like I don't that. I'm not that
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  Speaker 1: level of an aficionado. Man, I'm not like like, I'm
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: not like I didn't. I've never been on the car.
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  Speaker 1: You should if they ever come out with another issue
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  Speaker 1: a dip aficionado, Jared should be on it. Ye see
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that one and only. Oh yeah, you're sitting next to him.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: You're sitting right next ptographs after the podcast. Yeah, that's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the guy right thereado. Now I'm shaking. So oh I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: took it big gulp and that is just like dah
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: didn't mention it, didn't spit it back up. I didn't
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: mention it, just rode it out from I could take
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you to that barn, show you right thing of sitting now,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that tease that up, because that solves that problem. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: would never I mean, this is why it was created.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: You know, it's got a weighted bottom so it won't spill.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Can I see a clean one? But yeah, so you
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: have it's spat there, you know, and then you it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: got a little tab on the side or you can
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: put you and put your tongue on her deck guy
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and you can pop it up. But um, yeah, you here,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it's not threaded, just a little na oh. I see, yeah,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: there you go. And so it's just like, you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: it looks like an old spittoon. But you know, you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: can do a whole bunch of custom stuff. So we
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: didn't meet either. My jokes for y'all. That's great, man. Yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: then you leave that around the house. You're not spilling it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: If it tips over, it doesn't dump out. I was saying,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I noticed that you guys generally like to. Like when
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I was growing up, people like to. They really prefer
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to do it into a mountain dew bottle. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: do bottle. Yeah, And for some reason, nastar like to spit.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: So back in high school, we used to cut the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: tops off the mountain dew bottles. So you cut it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like halfway up and then you flip it over and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you put some tape on the tape here and do
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you wait at the bottom. No, I mean you could
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you can throw something to throw rocks in the bottom, sure, man,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's what we used to do back in
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the day. So you sell this product, Yeah, those are
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: my jokes. How do they how to folks find this?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: My joke? Dot com gets Drew and you r L
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah all right, so also
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: joined by Drew. Explain yourself. I'm Drew Laskey. So I'm
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Taylor McCall's manager. I worked with a couple of other
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: artists to John Goulsby and Olivia Wolf and I'm just
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: here to hang out and lets see what's going on
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: is Uh he's a decent manager. Yeah great? Was that
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a week? Taylor? Yeah? I could Taylor tell everybody real quick,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: what's up with your album? I've been sitting on it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: We recorded it in November, so I've been sitting on
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it for a little while. And we just got these
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: vinyl and c D of graphic and everything, the full
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: package in a couple of weeks ago. I think it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be a big hit, man, I believe. So. I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: like this album, Thank you man. We listened like we
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: listen to it so much it Uh, like I said,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: we broke it. Yeah, yeah. In our camper, we have
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a CD. That's a good problem to have in our camper,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: we have a CD player, and uh we only keep
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of CDs in there. Totally totally and busted it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I keep bringing keep outtakes all the stuff that didn't
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: make Exile on Main Street. That that's in there, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: your thing, Yeah, Ben, the Latter Blues you got that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: one in there? Is that? Is that one of the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: tunes on What Didn't Make? It's What Didn't Make ex amazing.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite records. Um, and then we
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: have a Typhoon album in there. Nice. Now we're back
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: up to three. How did you do three sides to record?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So it's got Drew? Can you explain that you might
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: be better? Yeah? So basically it's saving money instead of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: split it off on the four sides and put it
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: on three. You know, well, there's two records in this record.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: The issue was running too. We would have had to, like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: there's so much like an intro and outros, my grandfather
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: singing on here and U. Not too many people these
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: days are putting nine minute songs on vinyl, and that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: creates you know, you need more, more records. So that
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: was the most efficient way. You need to give out
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a record player with this something bitch, because no one's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: got a record player people. Yeah, I mean that's coming
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: back in. That's coming back in and people are listening
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: when they're selling vinyl at Walmart. People got a record player. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that's coming back around. Man. I'll tell you what if
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: if I when I was just at my mom's house,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we went to visit with my kids and everything. Once
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the you know, once it looked like the pandemic was over,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: went to for a minute, whatever that was, whatever that
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: two weeks was. We went to visit my mom and man,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: she still got I don't know where it came from.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I get like hundreds of scrap that I'm exaggerate, dozens
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of these all that stuff from that era. It's like
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Jay Giles band, arial Speedwagon, whenever the hell all that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: was happening. Totally, it's just a piece of I mean,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it's like the front. It's to me, it's like it's everything.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It's the art, it's how the list is in order,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and uh obviously the music, but it's it's I don't know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: The vinyl was like something. Instead of watching TV. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: used to just get a new record and just cut
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the TV off, you know, blast of speakers and eat
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: my dinner. And it was like a nice, i don't know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: refreshing way to have an evening, you know what I mean.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: That's you kind of that's kind of a piece of that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You can sit down with someone and say, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: let's listen to this thing all the way through rather
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: than all we have the option to skip or like
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: psychopath people that listen on shuffle. You know that's you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you know you don't have that option. You gotta listed
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the way the artist wants it. So, uh, what what
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: did you play black Powder Soul last time you're on
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the show. Was the first to hear it? Yeah? And
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: what do you play this time? Hell's half Acre? Something
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: figured out? I kind of just don't come in here
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: with agenda, just kind of free form it. Remember when
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: he had write that Diddy about Yanni? Yeah, I saw
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: some comments on that side and that boy can't write
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: no ditties challenge good blues musician bad did he write? Okay,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. You're you're like, your focus is
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Diddi's big, big time in the ditty's um And then
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Shasters here, Hey, everybody, Chester's here because he's he's here
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: because he likes to be in on anything that has
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to do with tobacco. This is like a collection. I'm here. Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I just like I was like, you know, who else
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: likes to dip I would like to think it was
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like I like music, you know, I was like, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: know who else likes bring Chester down? Oh, we gotta
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: talk about a couple of quick things. So a lot
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of times when we cover off at the top of
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the show, we cover off on email, we call it mail,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: but it's email. But this is a special edition because
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: this is stuff that actually came in the mail. So Crane,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you'll appreciate this. So you know how we've talked a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: lot about the writer Duncan Gil Chris, the late Duncan
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Gil Chris. I always talking with a friend of mine
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: was with Duncan when he died filming Big Horn Sheep.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: He said he just looked over and he was dead
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: so much it was so surprising that my friend turned
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to him and said, Duncan, where did you go? Just
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the heart attack or yeah. So Duncan wrote these great
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: books Hunt High and All about Bears, and I was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: we were talking on here about how there's they were
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: self published and he didn't make many of them, so
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: now they're super expensive. Like people sell his books like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a thousand bucks, but with no no or nothing. This
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: shows up in the mail a fresh copy of All
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: About Bears from Australia. No note. I couldn't tell if
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to sign it. It's just nothing. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: think it was a I think it was like he's like, hey,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I gotta copy that, and I know they're rare. Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: brand spiky knew all about bears from Australia. We gotta
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: find out who. Yeah, yeah, well I gotta Isn't that interesting? Um?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Oh. Another guy wrote in like literally wrote
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he bought a print. This will go in the studio.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It's a print of like the World's jackalopes. Yea from
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the world over passes around all the species of jackalope
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: like creatures. Very nice gift you get in the bigger
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: studio to hang all this stuff on this busy week.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I just discovered I didn't know about like fifteen minutes ago,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago. I didn't know about any of this stuff.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't about this though, So yeah, you think of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that Chester. I think if I get another tattoo, it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: might be one of these guys. Yeah, for sure. There's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a scientific journal called Fisheries. I think it's called Fisheries right,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Oh god, wow, is it called fisheries. I know it
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: because it's always sitting on my brother. Uh has published
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in Fisheries and whatnot. Anyways, this article see this article
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: right here. That that's a It's an article appearing in
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: an issue of Fisheries, which is the scientific journal of
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the fisheries World. The article is called Goodbye to rough
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Fish Paradigm shift in the Conservation of Native Fishes fish.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: This is from a peer review journal. What's rough fish? Uh,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: it's a step up from what they used to be called,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: which is trash fish. So trash fish would be buffalo
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: bourb it to some people. Some people call whitefish trash fish.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Every kind of every kind of sucker, every kind of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the dozens of sucker species gar like long nose, short
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: nose alligator might at one time have all been what
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: they called trash fish. But fishing game agencies even will
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: still use like fish and game agencies never said trash fish.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: They would say rough fish. And this article is talking
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: about a shift in public perception around trash fish. There's interesting.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I'm getting the main point in minute here. Oh he's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: got who wants to take a look at that? Here,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: here's a litany, here's a rogues gallery of trash fish
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: in this Oh wait, side note, we should uh for
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a new meat eater game. We should do a deck
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: of cards for go fish. But right, remember when they
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: invaded Iraq and they made that deck cards everybody were
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah, yeah, we could make a deck cards
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of all the rough fish based off of that Iraq
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: deck cards. Because the ace of spades was saddam thing.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, I was reading the ore day uh
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: in Um and you know Inherent Vice, the Thomas Pinching novel.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: They made a movie with Joaquin Phoenix and stuff Inherent Vice. Anyways,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in Inherent Vice, he was saying that what wild Bill Hickock.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows the dead Man's hand aces and eights, the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: fifth card. This book says that his fifth card was
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the seven hearts. No one knows that. But then I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: got to thinking and looked it up. And it's a
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: widely debated issue. What was wild Bill's fifth card? Have
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you seen ballad of Buster Scrugs? You haven't seen that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: When you watch it, you'll see Buster Scrugs is invited
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to join a card game and he wants his own
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: hand dealt and they're like, you can play that hand
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and he looks and it's aces and eights and then
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: set some down, says I don't want to play, but
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: then still dies later that day, like just being just
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: peering at aces and eights killed him. So who's got
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the road gallery? These are all rough fish. I'm getting
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to the point. Here was pike on there, pike mettle, oh,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: northern pike mental. The northern pike mental is a fish
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: previously known as a squaw fish. But there in some areas.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So this there's a graph and here about scientific research
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of fish. Where is this thing? Man? Oh, look at this.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm holding up a graph that shows how much
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: fisher researched. Okay, And here up top, of course, the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: rainbow trout. There's a book about the rainbow trout called
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: like the World's first synthetic fish. That's rainbow trout. Okay,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and then it goes down of like, so these are
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: game fishes the top, and it's just like a relative
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: graph showing scientific research of fishes. Of the game fish
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: is the most researched three, I'll do the most researched
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: five fish, rainbow trout by like a long shot, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: then kind of clump lumped together, chinook salmon, large mouth bass,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: atlantic salmon, and brook trout are all kind of like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: in second place for alec scientific resources to study. And
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: then relative to that, it gets into rough fish non
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: native and rough fish native um of rough fish escape ease.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: The ones that got into new waters. Lake whitefish gets
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the most research, and it gets about as much research
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: as a soger. The least is the alligator gar. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: then look at the piss ant amount of research that
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: happens on all these species of fish here, So like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: basically of of zero interest to the scientific community to
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: date would be such as short nosed gar, spotted soccer,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: golden red horse, gold eye, quillback carp sucker, sacramento pike,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: mental mooney, silver red horse, blue soccer, river, red horse,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: high finn, carp sucker, blacktail, red horse. How many of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: you in the in the room know some of those
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: fish or all of them? Yeah? I mean, I mean
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: good good eat like why not fish? No, But that's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the whole you know, we Okay, everyone can go watch
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: everyone can go watch episode one of Pardon My Plate
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: with Steven Spencer about carp and I mean these are
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: like culturated. That's why I'm bringing this up. Talk about
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: our work in this article. Oh, they talk about the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: work of our company in this article. They mentioned it
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: or that being like of being part of like part
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: of a broader movement of of teaching people to have
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: an appreciation for these native fishes that have been in
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: your waterways since the beginning of At the end of
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the day, can't anyone make you know, can't these fish
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: go well? And uh fish cake? Sure? Yeah, your fishcake recipe.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I mean that video that Dirt got famous in Mountain Whitefish,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that's trash fish. Yeah, you can do two things at once.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You can find out about mountin Whitefish and find out
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: how Dirt got famous about watching the same video, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: just the whole trash fish thing or rough fish thing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So like, whose palette was it? Really just based on
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: taste the thing? I mean, who because they feed on
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the bottom. Maybe some of them suckers. I think it's that,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I get it. It's the it's the there's an excessive
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: amount of bone almost universally is a lot of bone.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But you can pickle it and dissolve the bone. Okay,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: let me put it this way. It would be that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: it takes the greatest amount of work the greatest amount
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of effort to yield and uh to yield a taste
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and dining experience acceptable to the average American palette. Yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but okay, we like peanut butter and jelly, and they
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: would give that. That would not be a rough sumwich.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: That would not be a rough sandwich. Now, if you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: had a peanut butter, jelly and bone sandwich, that might
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: be a rough sandwich. But it's just getting so that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that's the paradigm shift is stop, Like what El was kidding?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: My dad knew all the game birds. Okay, he knew
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of birds he hated, and every other bird
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: on the planet was a tweetie bird. Hundreds of tweetie
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: bird species. Two birds that he hated, and then like
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: he like like robins and chicken eas he hated curls
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and blue jays. Then there's all the game birds and
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: then there's tweety birds. That's basically how it went. Do
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you think it's a visual thing too? With the fish
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: they like, rainbow trout just looks prettier than a carp No,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's visual. It's the processing, I don't think.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: So that's it for the mail bag that was that
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: was that was all physical mail. Look at that physical
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: mail and records in right. Okay, last thing, this is
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: back to email, but it's kind of weirds. It's an
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: internal email. One of the Corey Caulkins. If you email us,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that's who reads the email. Among other things, he was out,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I mean just he must have been out scouting or
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: hunting this weekend, hunting. There's a bad drought here right now,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: he said. The picture of a water tank he found
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the greenest this the water and he looks like gatorade
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that level of green and in one tank because he's banking.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: He's thanking the drought on this. How thirsty it's making
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: everything in one tank. He sent a photo of this
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: are floating twenty four pine squirrels, two golfers, and two
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: chicken eas floating in the tank, just trying to get water.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Particularly that. I'll put that on Instagram. So if you
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: go to at Steve Ronell on Instagram, you'll find just
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: look for a bunch of dead stuff floating in some
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: green water. You'll know you're looking at the right picture.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: That's something you have. The ranch I grew up on,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: for the first time ever, they had sheep die this
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: year because of the heat and drought. Ever, it's five
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: generations of families. It's been a dry or oh christ,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I think they died from the water, just from drowned
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and drowning thirst, craze pine squirrels. Oh, last thing before
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: we get to the before we get to the meat
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of it here, Uh, Doss Boat Season three is out Northeast.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Episode one features our very own cal and Joel Sir
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Mellie fishing New Jersey stripers. So you can check that out. Now,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: how do they go for? I would just if you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: type in like if you if you go into Google
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and type in like doss Boat, it'll it'll pull you
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: right up and you can watch it on our Meat
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Eaters YouTube channel or on our website. Ignore everything about
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Doss Boot. If it's a bunch of Germans in the submarine,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that's not the right thing. If it's Germans in the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: sub it's the wrong video. If it's Americans in a boat,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that's the right video. That's the best way to tell.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And then Uh. Season ten drops on Netflix September, coming
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: right up. A lot of dirts handywork on there. Oh,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: speaking of that, I was gonna tell you, I'll hit
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: fifty episodes this season. I think you've done eisodes of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Meat Eater, not counting like stars and sky stuff. Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: well I'm at forty six. New Mexico will be It's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: like fift wedding anniversary. I got a quick note for kid,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: quick note for kids in my home state, uh, Michigan.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Right now, the DNR is paying seventy five bucks a
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: bushel for red pine cones. So if you're a kid, well,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean they'll pay adults too, but I don't think
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: adults should be out hog enough. Do you know what
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I mean? It's like you know they're out there. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: don't think they should be out there. I think you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: should be for kids to do seventy bucks per bushel.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Red pine is on an off year this year, so
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: producing less seed so there won't be enough seedlings in
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a few years to replant and transplant. In order to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: get paid for your bushels, you need to register with
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the d n R first, So if you're a kid,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: have your mom and dad help you register and collect
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: red pine cones seventy five bucks a bushell. You remember
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: they started paying that bounty on on Northern Pike Mentals
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and some guys are pulling six figures, six figures? How
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: much has the guy put himself out of business because
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the next year he only made seventy k? Like he outfished,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he bound bounty hunting for fish. How much is a bushel? Roughly?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Volume wise, it's like four packs? Right? What's four packs
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: or three packs or so? I can't remember, or maybe
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: three bustels is a pack? Someone? This is easily solvable.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Easily solvable. You're gonna get that. Nurses us pints and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can't pick them off the ground. You
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: gotta pluck them from the tree. You have to bring
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: your mynd dad in the ladder. It's getting more complicated
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: for the kids in Michigan. Okay, Now back to Taylor.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You got a new album coming out? To everybody about it?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Um it is uh. It's when I moved to Nashville,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I had feel like I had necessarily three years to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: kind of up from when I started there. I had
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: seven songs and transpired into now having you know, about
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: a hundred fifty or so, and then now it's uh,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: it got whittled down to how many twelve on this record?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Plus grandpa plus my grandfather, So just your Grandpa makes
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a cameo on it. Yeah, so it's kind of a
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: salute to him. So I was at a funeral and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: this came That song came on. I think my great
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: grandmother like maybe four years ago or so, and uh,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the lady, kind of family historian lady. I was like,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: it's like I gotta have this. Died my great grandmother.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: She was just old, real old, you know what I mean,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: old age and uh and uh, anyway, that came on
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this is a cool Johnny
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Cash song. And I was like, wait, that's my grandfather
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and my mother singing harmonies. Uh, she's thirteen or fourteen
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and that and uh. I had that file of eight
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: tracks that she sent me and the only one of
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: my rand father was number four. And it took me
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like two years before I could even muster up to
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: really listen to it. And so like halfway through the record,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, um, we got into drinking some tequila
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and wine and I showed the guy it's just h yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And I showed the producer Sean and uh, he started crying.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was from the tequila wan,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but he was like, this has got to be on
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: here and I don't know. It's it's a I like
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to think in a lot of different unconventional ways. And
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to me it's like an outcast thing, like an old
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: hip hop thing to put of a weird intro or that,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you know. And a lot of people that have listened
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: to this privately have gotten caught into the record because
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: it's it reminds them of something maybe from like they
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: something familiar, you know, with old country music. And I
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: look at as a as a piece like the beginning
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: in the end the old ship was on. It's kind
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of this, you know, you get dropped off by the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: boat and you get picked up at the end and
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: in the middle is this like hellish sonic landscape that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: uh me and Sean made ourselves everything and uh Ben
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Alamant who played keys on like two songs. But other
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: than that, we hunkered down for two weeks and made
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: this and I couldn't have Uh. It's one of those
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: things like I'm sure when you write a book, um,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things you can kind of have
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: this master plan of how it's gonna maybe be your masterpiece,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: but when it kind of towards the end of the process,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: when you get out to the other side. Sometimes it
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: can be more that you can never have realized. And
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to me, this is uh, it's really one of those
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that kind of happened like that, and I don't have
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: just once you get that energy, the feeling you get
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: from making this stuff, it's hard to put it down,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you know. Uh you mentioned writing a book. I think
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: a strategy for writing a book, Um, and I've done
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: this is right at ending that you think is real good,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: and then try to write a book that would be
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: good enough to have the ending. That's right, You're like, man,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: if I could deliver on that ending and the beginning
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: good ending, ending and the beginning, but start with ending first,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: maybe yea, yeah, what And then what I'll do is
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I'll read all the easy parts and then I just
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: kind of like, of course, first I don't do anything
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: for a long time. Then I started writing the hard part. Yeah. Well,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like you learned so much, Like I didn't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: know half the things I knew before I started being
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a songwriter. It's one of those things you can use.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was playing a wedding some some
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: fans of mine. They were getting married and one of
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: their Sisters is like kind of flew me up there
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: in secret and I played for him, and uh, it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: just one of those things. They were like they're taking
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: me to the airport and you're like you're reading the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Tipetan Book of the Dead. You know that's weird. But
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: as a writer, the more you know not normal things
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you read, the better ideas and the broader perspective you have,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you have more to pull
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: from or a bunch of useless stuff that uh, I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. When you have a few drinks, you can
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: tell a couple of people. So when you start playing
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: around the tour for the album, how will that go?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We're starting uh end of October going to Texas with
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the producer Sean, So it would be my first time
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: in Texas, step footing there and it's gonna be a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: great run of shows and um running and who so
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I've been this was the first project of electric guitar stuff.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So I've been working the kinks uh with a gear
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: part for like four or five dates before this run,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and we're playing American of Fist September, so it'll be
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a good, good run. I like to do it in
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: short spurts some kind of home body, and uh, I
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: feel like I give everything I got when I make music.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's uh, it's not a half ass thing.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: It really comes from here. So I have to kind
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: of hit it hard and then rest, you know, my
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: mind and body. I see what it means, see what
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: it means to like want to live in a k
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: forever sometimes, you know. So, do you still regard yourself
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: as a fisherman or is that behind you know? No,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: it's not behind me. I just don't get to My
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: headspace is kind of flipped right now with the aspect
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: of getting this to a place to where I can,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you know, really get to where I want to fish.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really fish much in Tennessee because
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I got spoiled out here, and uh, I'd rather put
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in the time and get to a place where I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: can go down to Patagonia or something rather than just stayed.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Because you like fishing for trout, Yeah, if you listen,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Tennessee's got care about trash fish. Tennessee's got way better
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: fishing than this. They've got armadilla fish too, they float.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: That's that's a great fishing state. They've got some great fishing,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: but like right in Nashville, like um sport fishing. Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: The problem is those all those songwriters down there sure
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: talk about it all damn time. Yeah, I mean it's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: but they I don't know, they haven't you know, been
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: between the lakes, you know, up there in the Madison.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: It's like that's to me, you know, it's like using
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a shitty guitar to record a record with. It's like,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I'd rather not record the record, you know what I mean. Keeping.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: The problem with Taylor's fishing right now is that he
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: lives ten steps away from a recording studio. So that's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Stevie ray Vant he cut his last record on And
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I've just been learning how to use the board and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: operate a system that is out of my league, and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful thing to like, I don't know
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of this musical journey has been like very
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: spiritual in the sense of like too good to be true,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: ships always happening, And for a twenty four year old
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: to have complete access of a studio that Stevie ray
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Vans sat there and touched the knobs and that was
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: his last record. He would die a year later, and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: it was the most commercially successful record. It's like, um,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's to me. When I had that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: studio this week, I was like, oh, man, I gotta
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: go to Montana. It's like then when I'm here, it's like,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to Tennessee. So it's weird.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It's a weird headspace, you know. So if if this
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: launches your career and you get all famous, you still
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: come on the show. I don't know, man, We're gonna
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: be in Patagonia fishing a little bit, so we have
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to make it mover. I've already got some connections down
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: there and been working on my Spanish. That's good. That's good.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: We already carried up this this weird deal that um
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you grew up watching, Yeah, Jared Outlaws, Dip Video Pack,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Dip Spit. Yeah, okay. Jared explained how, like, yeah, I
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: remember seeing the like a list of like early famous
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: YouTube people and you were on it. Yeah, how I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: started back in two thousand and seven, Like YouTube basically
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: really started in like two thousand and it's like the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: end of two thousand five, but it was still kind
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of like a weird video chat dating site kind of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: so yeah, a little bit, and you could do like
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: video responses and things like that. So a little bit
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: before I'm like, and I would I give me a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: little YouTube history. What was it? So it was like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: a like a video response dating site. It's kind of
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: how like, well, I think what they did, I mean,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, they went to a million different
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: things because they had this like broadcast yourself type of
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: platform where it was like what what works? Because you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Facebook was was starting to to to become bigger. My
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Space was already big at that time, so they're trying
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: to Facebook was weird. It was like a way to vote,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: like who was good looking at me? Yeah, it was
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: all just like vote up. Well, I mean you like
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: scroll through all the girls at college and give them
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: like a gay nay. Yeah. That shows you to kind
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: of like as much as they act now like um,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you know like oh we're helping the world. Yeah, it's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: like you're really see in the mentality of people, like
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and it makes people shallow, like you look at tender
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: or something, but now they all act like they're like
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they're like diplomat. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it started as that and then you know you got
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: um at the very very beginning. It was kind of
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: just like people would upload like you know, they're like
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: funniest home videos, you know, like a FV back in
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the day, So you'd see a lot of cat videos.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: You remember, like the Charlie bit my finger. Yeah, that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: was like that was like the YouTube's first like viral video.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And like keyboard cat back in the day. It was
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: like a cat playing a keyboard. Do you remember that
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Charlie bit my finger. They found that Osama bin Laden's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: hard drive on his computer was Charlie video that video.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a random fact for you right there. Man.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I love that he was into that video. Wow huh.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But anyways, did you have me Jared's videos? I wish
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that's funny. Well, yeah, so I started more How old
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: were you then? I was? I was I was like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: fifteen No, I was sixteen, um when I first started.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: And like I said, like, were you trying to use
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: it for dating? No? No, no, that was before that
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: was like when they first started like two o five
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and um. And I was big. So when I was younger,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I was big into acting and anything I could do,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: like to like just entertain people, Like no, matter if
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it was like like if my mom was like watching
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the news, I'd be like I could do that. I
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: could do that. I'm gonna do it. So I would
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: get be a newscast yeah whatever. It was like, I
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: just wanted to entertain over to you, Dave, yeah, and
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: so I would just uh, I would just kind of
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: make these skits and sketches and things like that. But
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I remember I did one mostly comedy, Yeah, mostly comedy stuff.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Because back in the day, like now you have what
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you call a vlog, which is like you just you know,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: you just feel in their use that term anymore. Yeah, yeah,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: they still use it. Um. I mean, I guess you
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: just say video now, but like everybody's a vlog er
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: now seems like they do it on their Instagram and
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: all that. But back in the day, that's it wasn't
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: even around yet. So the biggest things on YouTube were
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like or that they're started to become channels that would
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: get bigger and get more subscribers, and like they would
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: just start making sketches or skits. They were like two
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to three minutes long and kind of like uh, like
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: an old sketch sketch comedy show that you would see
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: on Comedy Central or something like that. It was like
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, but you would get more of it because
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it was like normal people like us sitting in this
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: room doing it, you know. And so when I first started,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the most popular I think it was like Smash or
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: this girl Lisa Nova, they had like twenty thousand subscribers
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: and that was the most number. That was the biggest
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: YouTuber in the world. And I couldn't even believe it.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, they could fill up an arena their audience.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: This is insane. And then you couldn't even make money
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. They but these aren't like people who are
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: in like total rednecks ship right, No, no, no, I
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was the only dude. Probably you're like, okay, we can
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: keep telling the story. We'll get there. I mean there
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was there was not. There was probably like around a
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: thousand people that like even made like actual content. I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: just did it because I like doing it, and I
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: would just do whatever I wanted to do, even if
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you know, a hundred people would watch. And so then um,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and then they like two thousand and uh. I don't know.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Before that, I made like a hunting video and I
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: had to dip in because I was dipping at the time,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and like everybody, what were you, like, what was the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: hunting video? I can't even remember. It was something like
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: and you were living where I was living in Colorado.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I was. I went to high school in Colorado, right
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: outside of Denver, and uh, and we were like hunting
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: these fake dear in my front yard that we had
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: like these little like statue dear. This is like a comedy, yeah,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: like a sketch video. Yeah, and uh and back at this,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I mean this is before you could even really do editing.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Like Windows Movie Maker had just come out and I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: had it on my uh at our computer, and so
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I would like try to like, you know, you would
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: quit cut. That's about all you could do. There was
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: no transitions or anything like that. So I try to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: try to do all the editing in camera before we
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: would you know, post it and me and it took me.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I made videos for years, like ever since I was
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: a kid, but I just didn't know how to post it. Um.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: You know, you gotta like hook your camera. If I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: had one of those giant vhs like you put the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: whole VHS tape in the in the side, I had
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: one of those, and uh, but but Yeah, I had
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to dip in and everybody was like, what are you dipping? Man?
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm were you dipping at that time? Um? Probably
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Copenhagen when you were young. Yeah, I was sixteen. It's
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: about the time I found it. I started watching his videos,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: also different Copenhagen. Yeah, I like the Copenhagen Winter Green
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and the straight That was my thing until you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: we started sound checking. You guys remember the Copenhagen black
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: heartburn like every time? Yeah, yeah, they do that. They
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: used to do it seasonally and now they kind of
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: cut back on it. But the back in the day
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: it was. It was around for a while. It was good.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I think they came out with that two down six
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: or something. I think one of my favorite videos from
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: yours off the top of my head from back then,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: it's not like you were one, was the one where
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you caught that snapping turtle with the floating milk Joe. Yeah. Yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: because I would I would do like I never attended
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: to just do like videos on DIT No, you were
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: doing activities. Yeah, I was just doing I was just
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: filming whatever. But did you have early on, like in
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the old days, did you have a preference to do
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: hunting and fishing stuff or did you like I did whatever?
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Like I did whatever, like I felt like and I'm
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I'm all over the place. So one day I'm like
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: super into hunting and the next day I'm like super
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: into my wife or something. So you guys are having
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: a baby, Yeah we are. Yeah, yeah, we're having a
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: baby coming soon. I saw on Instagram. What were you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: guys doing that? You were shooting something to find out
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: what it was? Yeah, I took I had a deer target,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: and so I ripped one of the antlers off, like
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and we just put a buck or dough over it
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and we put a big old balloon, taped it to
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: the year's target and both shot it. Well who rigged
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: it up? Uh me? I think I think I just
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: knew the answer. No, no, no, no, the balloon thing
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: now with somebody else, somebody Yeah yeah, yeah, somebody got it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Uh my wife like drop it off like party America
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: or something, and yeah, and they did. Yeah yeah, but
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: we we had to take Yeah we did that with
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: a cake one time and shooting nothing. Just yeah. They
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: do whole They do everything, man, not just balloons. They
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: need cakes and and you know all types of stuff
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: that guy that had they had a gender See. When
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I first heard about a gender reveal party, I didn't
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: know what it meant. My mind went to, um, like
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: someone transitioning, That's what I thought it meant. It was
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: like a party if you transition. I thought it was
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: like when you Yeah, I like, it's like when you
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: are like official, you officially and then you have a party,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: which would be great party. The guy I could imagine
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: partying about that. But yeah, then I realized it's just
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: about babies. But the guy that, uh, they had a
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: gender reveal party, and they had like a tanner right target.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: They have blue smoke or pink smoke. Yeah, started a
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: big gass forest fire. They just got a massive fine
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: man restitution for the whole damn fire. You know, I couldn't.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: It's like where I live, it's just like out here
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: man breaks of smoke everywhere. Can't like a match. What's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the snapping turtle? Oh? Yeah? So I used to live
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: in Kentucky and um, are you born? I was born
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: in Florida. I lived in everywhere so um, from Florida
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: to Alaska. Um, I've lived all over the place, but
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I lived in I would live in Kentucky for four
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: or five years out of her sales, which is kind
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: of where all the bourbon and stuff. Oh yeah, I
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: love her sales. So I lived on like a three
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: fifty acre farm out there, and we had to farm
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: ponds and we had a whole bunch of snapping turtles
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: in it. And this is before like nobody was making
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: hunting stuff on YouTube. So I was doing just what
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I was doing every day, and I was like, well,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I might as well just film it. And so I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: did a video called I can't even believe still on there, honestly,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: but it's called how to Clean a Snapping Petal. In
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the first ten sexes be shooting the head with the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: twenty two, and everybody's like, I thought this was how
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to clean a turtle? Ting like what is going on?
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And uh, people may yeah. So I was. I was
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: probably twenty two maybe at that time, or twenty three,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and and so I would just like, you know, back
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: in the day, I didn't know what to do. There
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: was no like, there was no avenue, so you just
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: did whatever. So cleaning a snapping turtle or and it
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: made some of your best probably stuff, you know what
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I mean. That's the way I look at my early stuff,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: it's like before you knew what you were, you know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: It's like that's the unfiltered, you know, good stuff when
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: you're throwing ship at the wall. You know. Hey, uh,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: when you were doing you weren't making any money early
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: on from YouTube. Now you couldn't even make money on YouTube.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I think I did YouTube for like five years before
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: you could even make money before they turned that on.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I think it was like two thousand ten or something
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: when they when it came out, was saying that they
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: were going to do it. Uh. I think I was
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: in Alaska actually, and they announced that they were going
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: to do this partner program where Google was going to
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: run ads in your videos and you can make money.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: And it was like they kind of like remember the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: email I got about it, like you're entered because I
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: already had like an audience, and so I was like what,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, And then it got my mind like
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I never thought that I could, you know, do something
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: like that as a job. I was like more of
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: hoping that maybe somebody from Hollywood would see my video
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and shooting my head off a snapping turtle and would
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: it be an Avengers five? Um? So yeah, I h
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: they they just you know, two thousand tennishes. Whenever that
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: you could start making money on it. And then then
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: it like then everybody wanted to be a you know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a YouTuber, so and it got more it got more
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: like business like then. That's whenever you started seeing it
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't that it like the fun one away, but it
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: was like it was really about community back in the day,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like on YouTube, like you would you would have like
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty different other channels that would watch you, and
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: they would always like every time your video uploaded, they
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: would they would comment like good vid, awesome vid man,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like all the video producers. Yeah, like other
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: other people that you would know, because it was a
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: really small community. And then once you know, you can
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: started making money on it, everybody kind of turned it
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: into like it was like a business almost, and you
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: know it was like and I mean I did too.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I I went with the times, but it was it's
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: it was a complete change from what it used to be.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy that I've almost have been doing it
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: fifteen years now. Do you still regard yourself that way,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like as a YouTuber kind of because it's just like
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not embarrassed by it. Some people are like, oh, yeah,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I'm a YouTuber, I do like how to videos or whatever,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: but I mean it's what I do. Like what's your
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: output as far as like how many? How many set
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: in your head like, yeah, I used to I used
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: to upload every day when you were watching. I used
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: to upload every single day. I think I did it
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: for two years straight, so like six eight videos or
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: something in a row every single day. So if people
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: are binging, they're always like they're looking for that next
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: and that's that's hard. I mean it's hard. I mean,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: you live your life a whole completely different way. I
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: was secluded out there in the nowhere, so it was
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: like every day it was like something new, trying to
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: create some type of new content for people. And that's
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: whenever I kind of like, probably when you've found me,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: it's kind of when I started, uh, getting a little
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: bit bigger and um just because you get you know,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: putting the work into it, because I mean, the biggest
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: thing about doing YouTube is consistency and in the same
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: type of thing. So now it's a little bit different
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: where it's all about algorithms and stuff like that. Back
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: in the day. It was kind of just like, well,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: if I find this guy, I'm just gonna keep watching it. So,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: you know, YouTube kind of puts things in front of
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: your face, now if you're consistent. So and it was like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: when you're doing all that early on, what percentage of
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: your stuff was related to the outdoors? Uh's I don't know,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: probably se I mean everybody who pretty much. Um Like,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: even if it was like a video about dip, it
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't just like me reviewing the dip. It was like
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: it was like a variety show. Like it was like
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: there was an intro, there was the Okay, I'm gonna
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: crack the can, I'm gonna put it in, and then
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: it's like then we're gonna go check in in the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: deer stand and I'm like hunting that day, and so
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: like I lived a white tail hunt out of that farm,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: and so I'd give him like an update from the stand.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, what's up wearing the stand? I haven't
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: seen chip? All right, let's go back. You know, just
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: stupid crap like that that you watch nowadays and it's like, oh,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that's been done twenty times, but you know, uh, that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: was it was kind of always outdoor type of base
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: because it was kind of like my audience and that's
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: how I grew up. So because I grew I was
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: born in Florida and then I grew up in Branson, Missouri,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: so that's kind of where my dad was. My dad's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: just a builder and um, so we moved a lot
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: when when I was a kid, and then I just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: after when I graduated high school, I just became a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: rambler and I was all over the place. So I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: moved like eight times and eight years or something like that.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: So that was all over the place. So the aspect
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: of it being like um, like the tobacco and dipping,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: all that just came out because that's what people caught onto. Yeah,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: it was well, I was like I was a different myself,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: but I was always you know, especially like where I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: lived in Kentucky, tobacco farms were very prevalent. You know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you're driving through Kentucky, especially like eastern Kentucky, you see
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: old male pouch barns and that Americana, Like it just
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: gets me. I love lady loses spitting, you know what
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I mean. You got cleanex of stuff in there, and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: it's like she looks like an old little kitty cat.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: She's dipping, you know what I mean. It's probably in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a bad movie too. Yeah. Yeah, but we love Eastern Kentucky.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Um I uh so I just became like in love
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: with like the Americana of it, the history of it
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: and and uh and how it was made and all
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, and then ended up, you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: coming out with my own give me uh hit me
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: with like a crash course on tobacco history. Okay, real
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: crash course. Um. Basically, uh, what was it when Christopher
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Columbus came to America at the West Indies? Yeah, and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: so you know what did he think? He was in
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: China or something like that. Where where do you think
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: he landed? India? Okay, Um, so he comes somewhere new Yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: but he gets Yeah, so he gets into the it
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: was the Caribbean, and um he meets the indigenous people.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: This is the first time. Um, they do a little trade. Basically,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: it's like here's some indigenous people give give Christopher Columbus
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: and his crew fruits, vegetables and these brown leaves, and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: they understand what the fruits and vegetables are. They have
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: that over in Europe, but there they look at these
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: brown leaves and they're like, what the hell is this
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: smells like crap, just throw it away. Second time they
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: come back, they see the indigenous people smoking those brown
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: leaves and then some of Christopher Columbus guy starts to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: try the stuff and they're like, what is this crazy? Right? Yeah,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: So so anyways, it was Christopher. It was basically Christopher
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: clumb Is coming over here and uh and within a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: hundred years, I think it was by by six d.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: It was in every single country in the world within
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a hundred years. Yeah, and so um all over the place,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: and obviously here in America we had it's very prevalent.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: And so you know over in Virginia, Virginia was our
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: main port for tobacco export. So when we would when
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: back in the day before uh, like in in the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, we had a m uh they would use Glasgow,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Scotland because that was the shortest the shortest boat ride
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: basically was from Virginia to Glasgow, Scotland, and so that's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: where that was kind of like their traveling corridor was
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: between there and UM and Europe. Like was was everybody
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: everybody was was into this tobacco thing. And and the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: indigenous people. The crazy thing was is they were already
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: smoking it, they were already chewing it, they were already
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: sniffing it. They were doing everything. And so when you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: know what the hell it looked like, Like, what did
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: it look like before people started to cultivate it? What
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: do you mean? And it's wild form? Where do you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: run into wild tobacco? Yeah, I don't know. I don't
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: know about that. Um, I know that there are many
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: different there are a number of different types or species
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: of tobacco, tobacco plant, tobacco leaf. There's a bush here
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: called tobacco brush. Huh, it's not tobacco. It's not tobacco. Okay,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure like places in Virginia and and Tobacco
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Road in North Carolina, that's a heavy spot. Yeah yeah,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, South Carolina, Kentucky. I like to see it
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: in its wild state. Yeah. Yeah. We had a guy
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: and to show up, like a guy that works on
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: insects and plant evolution and whatnot. And he was talking
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: about tracking down like what corn came from, you know,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: like a grass, it's like a American grass. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting. Actually you say that because I want
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: to figure that out now. Um, and kind of like
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: see it like girl, I could imagine like seeing it
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in the woods of Virginia, like like growing tobacco under
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: oak tree or something. Yeah, it might not even be
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: around anymore. Yeah, I don't know because the cold bars
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: right like uh, the wild turkey that have you looked
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: it up Chester? Well, it says it's native to southwestern
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: United States, Mexico and parts of South America. I mean
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it goes back. Yeah, Messo America beyond six thousand years
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: probably found it the same way they found cocoa leaves,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: walked through the woods shoot stuff man. Yeah. So um,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: but it was like it blew up all over the place.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And I mean there was all different types of of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: use of it. Obviously, the smoking aspect of it was
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: was very popular. Um. And then like I don't remember
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: her name she was. I don't know if she was
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a queen or something. It wasn't like the Queen of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: England or something like that, but I think she was
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: from Sweden. And tobacco crushing tobacco leaves up and then
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: sniffing it was done by mostly women in the well no,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: because it was polite, Like why that because they didn't
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: want to do I don't know, I don't know, but
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: so I guess what they said is is it would
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: cure headaches and so yeah, so uh so mostly women,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: especially in Sweden. The reason I say Sweden is because
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Sweden basically perfected the tobacco leaf when it came to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: moist snuff, not as far as smoking, but when it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: comes to like chewing it, dipping it. Nasal snuff, Sweden
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: like killed it is native snuff, powdered like dried leaf,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: powdered snuffy. Yeah, general, what's that is that nasal snuff? Okay?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: So this is so and I brought some. So this
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: is open that top one, Steve, what do you mean
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the top one just over the Yeah, that's that's that's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: what you called a catch liad. Oh yeah, catch your
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: spent choosing there and it wasn't here. There's one Let
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: into that box real quick. What do you say? I
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: need to get it? So I want to talk at okay,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I want to go with Krin's thing. So people snorted, Yeah,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: is it is it basically like dried? Yeah, it's dried. Yeah,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you're doing cocaine. But it's a ground right you put
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: it right here in your snuff box. That's what you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: call your snuff box. If you check this out, I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: got a message for the listeners. Yeah, take your arm,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: how do you describe this? Make your arms straight? Yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: make your arms straight so your arm and your hand
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: are straight and rigid. And then lift your thumb up
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: so it's pointing at the ceiling, and then cock your
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: right hand ever so counter clockwise, and you'll notice that
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: the base of your thumb shows up a little dimple,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: a crater, like almost at the wrist. Yeah. So that's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: how you measure it out I call your snuff box. Yeah, okay,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: you put pulverized tobacco and riff it up your nose
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: and so you don't snort it. You don't snort it,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: you sniff it. So it's just like just like that.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: So just brought some of that in that. That would
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: have been great. But that's not popular that much anymore. No,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: it's not as popular now, but they still sell it.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: So um. That was yeah. And I mean you have
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: the Swedes like you smell you smell his general there.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: This is a Swedish snooze that's made in sweet and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: now careful smelling this but just who where do you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: get that? Jered, because I got something from I can't
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: tell if it smells a pneumonia or mint. Yeah, it's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: does it taste like it smells? Dude? It So this
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: is a like a porta John Amazon jar. If you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: put a cockroach and Amazon jar and toss that, they're guaranteed. Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: So that so there's a lot of different types of tobacco.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: When I talk about Sweden, how they kind of perfected it,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: and then over back in America, it's like we you
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: know it was discovered here, I said, sniff not yeah,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: cres Like if you give her like what happen when
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you give someone with sobby but tell him something different
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: or something this christ so it's a little bit stronger.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: So this is do you taste the like, what's the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: purpose of that moment? That's got to be. So this
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: is so that I'm telling you everybody over in Sweden
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: because snooze is actually illegal right now and you're or
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: in uh in the EU. So it's basically only like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: like Norway and and in Finland and Sweden it's legal. Uh,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: They're they're working on getting it back now because you
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: know COVID and everything, people like you guys got to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: stop smoking then they and they're like, oh, well this is,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: you know, safer, so we'll look into it. Basically is
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: what they're saying now. But Sweden perfected it as as this.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: This is snooze, So snooze. You don't have to spit
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: like you can put this is a pouch. They call
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: them portions over in Sweden. And so when you put
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: this in and they usually put them upper deck they
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: usually upper deck it, and upper deckers make a pecker better.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: So everybody, uh so you can do it at home
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: and be bigger, bigger. Sorry, yeah, I Stu'm gonna stop
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: doing that. And so you know, you throw one of
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: these and your in your top lip. Now this has
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: so Swedish snooze. There's a lot more nicktine than they
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: have an American it's snuff over here. So this is
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: like there's like twenty two milligrams and well are like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: three millie what's like a ship? What's in a cigarette?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Just for the sake of comparing, I don't know exactly,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: but probably around that to three to six. So um
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: so these are like that is like a that's like
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: remember rememberhen you're a kid. Remember jolt cola. Oh yeah,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: it's like the goal and this is this is mid
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: tier ammonia. Want again, but what was the booze? There's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: no way on the planet would I mean, is that
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: or something ammonium like treating the leaf? Is it? What's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: its purpose? So the thing about this is your This
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: is more about the nicktine. This just for addicts. This yeah,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: and now this is still tobacco. So there's all different
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: types of stuff out there. You have like just Nicktine
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: pouches now, which are huge. People do the zin and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: the and uh and v low and arms and things
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, he's got one of them. It's got
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: sweedish words on the back. Yeah. On the front it
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: says thunder slip white dry thunder, and it's actually the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: right thunder. This one's actually this one's actually Odin's um,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: which is in here, which is and they have they
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: have other ones called They have one called Siberia, probably
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: because you know, it's a cold snooze and they because
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: it feels cold in your lip, which is like fifty milligrams,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Is that like something mentally, it's very mentally. They have
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: different flavors. But but the I'm telling you the Swedes,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: like people over in Europe, they the nicotine level that
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: they all do over there is way bigger than we have.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I had no idea because now, like I feel like
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: if you go to you know, in cities in South America,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: you kind of get a picture of what it used
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: to be was smoking. You can imagine what it used
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: to be like here in the fifties. Yeah, we're just
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: like everybody is always smoking, right ye, And it catches
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: you off guard because of how how much use is
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: just dropped off right here in the US. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: with there's so many different types of alternatives now vaping,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: there's like the kind of like was like supposed to
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: be to sell everybody's it's like the devil now, man,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I think big tobacco had something to do with that,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: you do a little bit, There's there's no way they
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: didn't in my opinion, there's just no way. Like the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: research campaign, the people don't realize that basically, like tobacco
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: ran the world for a long time and it still
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: kind of does. Like I mean, when you're talking about
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: the biggest business in America and the world in general,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: it's it's still tobacco, like they got people on and uh,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: they coming off like creative people like tobacco. Well, tobacco
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: is I mean it's it's a stimulant, just like caffeineas
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: and it's obviously you know tobacco as as natural nicotine
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: in it. But it's um, it's a plant that everybody
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: you know, loves to enjoy. Not everybody, but a lot
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: of people love to enjoy. So you know what watching
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: them outlaw Josie Whales and he's got like the rope. Yeah,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: that's twist tobacco and they take a chaw off tell
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: is that that's say it's like a plug or a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: twist tobacco. But you know, chewing tobacco like Levi Garrett Redman,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: you know that Like it's in back. So it's basically
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: that but dried together and they twist it together with
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: molasses and they can the molasses kind of keeps it
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: together well, and so it's like the actual plant the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: leaves no no, no, so they stripped the leaves. Um
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: So like with with with American tobacco, like when you're
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: talking about like cope and egg in and uh and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and things in your dip um or or Levi, Garrett
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: red Man, things like that. You know, you're gonna strip
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the leaves off the plant. Um, you're gonna put them
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: in your You're basically going to clean them up. You're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: gonna hang him in a in a barn. You're gonna
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: put sawdust under it. You're gonna light to sawdust, and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: you're gonna fire cure the tobacco makes it really dark leaf. Yeah,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: it's like a fire cure. Not all of them. Some
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: of them are air dried, some of them. There's there's
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: all different types of cures for for tobacco. Yeah, Like
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: cigars are done a different way. Smokeless tobacco has done
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: a different way sometimes like a dark dark, fire cured
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: dip like smokes tobacco. Um, you get that darker taste
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: in it. So it's like with fire. Yeah, it's smoke basically. Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: And so that you know, the biggest thing about like
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: cigarettes comparing it to dip is when you light up
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: a cigarette, you're burning the leaf. You're never burning a
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: smokeless tobacco leaf. That's what it's called smokes tobacco. So
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: when you're burning cigarette, you're I think it's something like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: six thousand chemicals you're releasing with one cigarette with dip.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: It's so minimum that they don't ever they don't ever
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: even talk about it. It's so like there's there's no
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: you know, um, the t s n A levels are
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: completely different. T s n A is is like cancer
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: causing chemicals that are in tobacco that tobacco just naturally
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: has in it t sn A. T s n A
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: levels and smokes tobacco were so low that they never
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: talked about it. So like the American Cancer Society just
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: came out with a paper a couple of years ago,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: and they used to have it all the time because
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: big tobacco. There was like a war on tobacco for
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: a long time because people are going to cancer from
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: the cigarettes. You know, everybody smoked back in the sixties
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: and seventies like crazy, but it wasn't like really put
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: out there that it was bad for you. And then
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: and then you know, in the nineties, when everything started
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit more goody two shoes, everybody was like, Okay, yeah,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: this this this ain't good for you. I'm starting to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: cough up along now I've been smoking for twenty years.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: So it started to get a little bit, you know,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: people were taking it a little bit more serious. That's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: when smoke was tobacco got a little bit bigger. But
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: then because it was made by some of the same
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: big tobacco brands like Camel has their own and and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Marbo they had very similar companies, they kind of pieced
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: it together. But the American Cancer Society, they just came
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: out with the thing a couple a couple of years ago.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I think it was twenty nineteen. UM of the seventeen
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: like leading causes of cancer and smokes. Tobacco wasn't even
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: on a Cigarettes was on the top. There was like
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: it was like a city and hepatitis and all this stuff.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even on there. Now I've talked, I've I've
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: interviewed um a few doctors on this because I've been interested.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: You know, I've never had an issue. I take care
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: of my teeth, but I've never had an issue. UM,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I've seen gumer session and people. Never seen anybody or
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: hurt anybody, like getting actual cancer from dip. You know,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: always if we always hear about people getting lip can
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: I've always telling dirty's gonna get lip cancer. That's not true. No,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: that's just in TV. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know it might have happened. I don't know.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. But I've talked to this doctor.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: He's a I think he still is a professor at
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the University of Louisville. His names Dr Radu. He's wrote
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: a book Is he in the Is he in the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: back pocket? A big tobacco might be? He might be,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: but he's but he's completely against cigarette companies, which is
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: the which is crazy because most of the cigarette companies
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: own these smokes tobacco companies. So I don't think so.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: But he wrote a book called How Smokeless Tobacco Can
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Save Your Life, and he basically just goes on about
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: how like he's been researching this for like thirty years
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: and he's never found that T S and A levels
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: and smokeless tobacco if you're not lighting it. He's like,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: there's He's like, there's you have more of a like
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: you have the same amount of hurting your body is
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: putting sunflowers in your sunflower seeds. And the doctor told
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: my dad, you know, you gotta quit here, try these
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: pouches or whatever. So I was always doing the long
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: cut and I was like, why you did those pouches?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: He was like, I never got it until it's like convenient,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was in here, I've
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: already had a couple of dips. But if I'm here,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I got stuff all over my face, you know what
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it's it's clean, and I get it.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: But though they put big old cancer warnings on the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: back of the dip, that's a crazy So here's so like,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: here's let me say, I want to say, I want
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: to add one thing in. Yeah, smoke and killed all
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: four of my grandparents. My grandpa, my maternal grandfather, smoked
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: himself to death and took his wife down with him.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: And she needs smoke because she sat in the living
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: room with him for fifty years watched the smoke. Cigarettes
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: killed the both of them with lung cancer. And my
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: old man had and he quit. He had quit, and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: he worked as assoff to quit, went to a hypnotist,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: tried everything. Eventually he made he gave ten to one
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: odds to anyone that would do it that he could
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: quit and and just made cash bets tend to one. Yeah,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: And that's how he quit because he was no way
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: going to pay out all that money. But you can't
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: second hand it. You can if you drink it. But
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I didn't do like enough to
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: get uh. I didn't do it enough, you know, I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: think like these guys were saying too with the My
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: dentist said, no, this doesn't say anthing about cancer. Go ahead, dirt,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: that's this is not tobacco. Okay, okay, this is. But
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: my dentist said, uh, I mean, I haven't been for
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, but last time I went, and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: he said, if you move it around, He's like, what
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: can cause lip cancer is the brasiveness, like you're saying
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: with sunflower seeds, but if you're dipping and you're switching
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: switching people get lip cancer, have a what you call
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: the thumb pocket. Yea, they have a snuff box in
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: their mouth. The brasiveness is where the cancer starts. But
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: if you're moving it around. The dentist told me, I'm
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: gonna go yeah. But when I'm super curious about, uh,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: are all the different ways that people cure create et cetera.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Smokeless tobacco and then like regionally, like who choose what,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: who dips what? Like that whole kind of So in uh,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: in Sweden, like I was talking about, they have snooze,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: which they got that name from snuff over here um,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: and that's snort and tobacco. No, well so that's nasal snuff,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: but like this is still considered snuff. Like this stuff
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: in your can. They call it everything, snuff, dip, chow,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: chaw ub, whatever. There's so many names for it, but
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: but it's still all the same thing. You're just talking
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: about smokeless tobacco. So over in Sweden they have what
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: you call snooze um, which snooze in a long cut
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: form and didn't bring any but it's it's like a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: very muddy texture, but it looks very similar to uh,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: to a long cut dip like this. And so what
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: um what they do different than what American companies will
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: do with theirs because American companies will will ferment theirs.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Which boys are they're packing? You guys can't you guys
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: can't be in this conversation. Which an alternative? We're gonna
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: sample soon they're doing an alternative? So which one is
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: that winter? That's good? Yeah, there's a lot of things
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I want to try. That bourbon one or that peach one.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: But so you guys do it. You guys do it
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: tobacco alternatives right now. Yeah, so this is yeah, at
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: the time, this is my company outlaw, but the um
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: we're still talking about tobacco. So yeah, we haven't gotten
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: into the alternative. So so, uh, what the Swedes do
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: instead of fermenting the dip which in America they you know,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: you've ever seen like a picture of an old tobacco
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: barn with the you know, tobacco leaves hand, Yeah, and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: there's smoke coming out from the sawdust and I don't
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: know about that part. This is all new to me,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: the whole smoke in it thing. Yeah. Yeah, so it
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: just kind of makes me take a smoke fish. Yeah.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: They they like cure the tobacco with smoke, So that's
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: called fermenting. In Sweden. What they would do is they
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: they it's called a past it's pasteurization method, so it's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: more of a steam cure, which they say, which that's
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: just their method of doing it, which is a whole
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: different way of of consuming it. But they sit like,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: with doing that method, you don't have to spit, it
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't really juice up, just put in that sweetish, you
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: just put the ammonia in there. Well, these boys done
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: here doing alternatives and you're doing the ammonia. I just
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: how many milligrams and nicotine will kill a man, and
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: it said like sixty here, so let me get three.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: There's no way I've done. The most I've ever done
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I think was nearly nine. So I gotta I got
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: a buddy. We call him fat Boy, and maybe you should.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: We got a vengeables five vegebles like man like dip man.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: It's like a special power. No man, a nicktine could
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: kill freaking I would woof fans his ass. But the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: bad guy's hiding in the dip shd. You're going there.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, some Swedish hat fields and yeah, that Siberia
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier, which is like almost fifty
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: MILLI my buddy, fat Boy, he goes. He's like, you
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: won't do a full candidate, and so I was like,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I'll do a full cannon. He's in your at one time. Yeah,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: And I looked up that stat you know, they're like,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: what's the nicktine overdose and it says like sixty And
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, I've done way more than sixty. Be
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: four so I just put the whole thing in my
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: mouth and I kept it in for like four minutes.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: I did it on a video And did you have
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: to use the restroom right away? After that? I never
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: threw up? What did your body do? Like? Increased heart rate?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Increased heart started sweating? Like really bad? Just what your candor?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: That's a little Yeah, what's wrong with the jug? Just
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: you too good for the jug? You don't want to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: take someone else's jug. That's like, but how did you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: manipulate your can there for that? I just popped a
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: hole in it? Yeah? Is that like an old dip triper?
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: You were a wrestler in high school? Right? Did you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: guys dip to cut weight? I mean I didn't. Does
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: that work? But yeah, people do. When I was a kid, man,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: they you in high school, the guys on the rassling
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: team would put a garbage bag on the punch two
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: holes will hold for their head and a hold for
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: their arms. Put a garbage bag on. I could dip
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: and run around like that. That's how I started differing.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Spitting spitting and then wearing that garbage bag to sweat.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: I thought you and then you going to the fight.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Then the fight you going to the fight, but never
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: felt better, never felt better. Appetite suppressing, isn't it? You said,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: what appetite isn't an appetite suppressing? Yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I can see that, but I think that's not the tobacco.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's a nick team. You're talking about taking
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: that full? Can you guys remember the horse shoe there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I've seen him do many of those. Yeah you do,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: He's done the whole what's the most you've done? Like
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: two cans? Probably, and you didn't you just have small mouth.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: I can't do that. But there's some people, man that
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: they'll they'll just I mean back in the day on YouTube,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I remember I would never do like the challenge type stuff,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: but like there was you know, remember the cinnamon challenge.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: This was way before that, and so everybody loved to
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: do this cinnamon challenge. Cinnamon challenge when you just put
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: a spoonful of cinnamon in your mouth and you try
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: to hold it anyway down and then there's like some bottom,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: some ice water on yourself or something like that. The
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: ice water challenge that was for that was for Yeah,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: there's a shoot, there's Oh speaking of confusing my sports stuff.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so my birthday is in February, but dirt
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: has brought me a birthday present and it's a dude.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Uh slam dunk slam dunking. There's all there's an athlete
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: slam dunking in a basketball who says touchdown. I saw that.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: This is like a custom a custom shirt for me
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: who's had a lot of problems with sports analogies. Doesn't
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: stuff you want to do them, that's gonna mess. So
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: when I got to make a reference to a sports player,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, uh, Ridge Perry, that's the only guy
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I can think of. You know are people now? I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: got Pete Alonzo, Yeah, I know him, so I like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: watching him play. Aren't all the tobacco companies for the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: most part, like Copenhagen, Grizzly Skull, Aren't they all owned
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: by the same company. Uh so copenag his Skull, Um
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Red Seal, They're all own by the same company. It's
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: all us Smokeless and they are owned by out Tria,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: which out Tria owns a bunch of day Bone. Everybody. Well,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: it's like the big like smoking company. Philip Morris, Yeah,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: they don't. They're not. They didn't throw down on dip
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Philip Morris. Yah that Philip Morris has dip. Yeah. Pretty
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: much all the big like cigarette companies that you can
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: think of, they didn't think to get into it. Yeah,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: and they're pretty much all owned like by somebody bigger
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: that has a branch out of smokeless tobacco and cigarette tobacco.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of these companies will roll their cigarettes and
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: make dip in the same manufacturing units. So do you
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: rub elbows with them? Boys with outlaut dip? Uh? Like
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Philip I used to back in the day, I used
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: to um. I used to be ambassador for a lot
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: of people stokers. Was in a massador for copenag and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I did a lot of stuff for Really, you were
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: a chebacco Wars missing up Star Wars and chewing tobacco.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: We've already got our movie. Chebacco a good movie man
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: like Star Wars tobacco. Yeah, chewbacco. It was like wullie
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: guy that needs to get some do So. I had
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: a buddy in high school that on the can of
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Copenhagen Winter Green And you can correct me if I'm
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: wrong here, but I believe he was telling the truth.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: He said that was in our family's line, Waymond Copenhagen,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: and his last name was Wymon. That is that w
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: e y Yeah, okay, interesting, yes, uh so Waymon George
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Wyman is his name. He's the one shout out to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Nick Wyman, Nick, Whyman, I'm interested, that's cool, that's cool
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: to South Carolina. He showed me on the can the
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: w C. That's kind of like reading a dollar bill.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: You don't realize like, oh, that's on a dollar bill,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: and he's like, that's my grandfather somebody's initials. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: So when people look at like a copen egg and
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: can it said, you know, most people would be like,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: there's like a WC on there. C W they see
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: so that stands for Wayman's copening and which George Wyman
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: was kind of like the first guy who's started doing it.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: My buddy Ronnie, who's who's bound on the show. Uh
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: quite a few times over the years. He had He's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: got a lot of quotes. He's the one that introduced
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: me to the idea that you should never wear a
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: hat that has more personality than you do. Sound advice.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: So I should take your first light hat off. No,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: that's not a person there. His hat doesn't have more
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: It's a awfully filthy hat. It matches the wear. Yeah,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: we don't wear a hat that has more personality than
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: you do. I think it's kind of advice against like
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: the wrong person getting the cowboy hat. Yeah, like I
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: have no business. Yeah yeah, if you ever see me
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: in a cowboy I would like you to ask me
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: to remove it. Okay, but you rocked a beaver hat
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: for sure. Oh I wear yeah, dude, I wear I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: wear a fur I wear a beaver fur hat because
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: I grew up as a trapper. I got to your
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: right to have a beaver hat. It's a northern you know,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: like northern symbol. Yeah, that's not more personality. No, No,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, I had no business in the stats,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: and uh Ronnie also said I can't. He said, both
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: of these are one of these. He said, if your
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: dad's your best friend, you ain't got any friends. Or
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: he said, if your wife's your best friend, you ain't
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: got any friends. I can't remember he either said both.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: I know he said one, but when me and my
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: buddies talked about like, no, that's not what he said.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: He said. He might have said both. It might just
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: be a thing. So he told me the difference betweens.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Like he's like, he doesn't like smoker. He started, it's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: kind of weird he started smoking, but he didn't historically
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: didn't like smokers because they don't they can't do anything right,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: he said the tour. A guy that dips probably has
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: the work with his hands. Yeah, and like he always
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: used to feel, there's nothing more useless than a smoker
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: because he's got to do everything one hand all time.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: But a guy that dips probably works. And that's where
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: you see most of it, especially in America at least construction.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's about like who you know, rural
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: urban divide, like what who's doing what? Who's doing what?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Kind like is it regional? Is it? You know? Yeah?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: I think well definitely, like uh, smokeless tobacco like this,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: you know, this dip stuff here that's pretty much big
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: all over here, like in America, that's about it. Over
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: in Sweden and things like that, they'd have the portions
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: like I gave you there, that's a that's just great. Yeah,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: and then you got they have loose snooze, which is
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: very similar similar to this, but it's it's different like
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: it's it's more of a tobacco taste than than we
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: you know, like this one's this is one of our
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: sweet tea flavors. So it's like we we can basically
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: flavor whatever we want, and over there it's a lot different.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: But like this type of stuff here is is basically
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: just in and it's not even in rural America anymore.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of people that used to be smokers and
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: stuff here they're getting onto the nicotine patches like those
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: zins and and things like that. But um, as far
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: as there's smoking version of alternatives, yeah, what was that
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: wild back American spirits which were but it doesn't have
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: any like additives or yeah. And then they had the
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: electronic cigarettes, which yeah, you're right, yeah, that's yeah, you're right. Yeah,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. Yeah, and then vape I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: guess considered that too, But it's just it's just a
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: little bit different because there's no I mean, yeah, I
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: guess it is the same. You know. That's a that's
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: a that's a good correlation, like alternative tobacco or alternative
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: tobacco tins dip being like when people had like e
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: cigarettes and I to save the lungs, frock the guns
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: that Steve did you ever did when you were working
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: for ron No, dude. But here's the thing. Any of
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: this I mean, oh yeah, I had no no, never seriously,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: so I've never took you took one of my schools
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: in Arkansas at the campfire? How long did I have it? For?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: About five minutes maybe four? So Ronnie when I worked
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: for him, they he That's when I found out about
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: the snorts stuff and took a rip of that about
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: blew my head off. That was also when the first
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: time I tried horse meat. Ronnie had a can of
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: ground up horse meat. I still had the bone chunks
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: in it. Isn't Ronnie Chain smoking cigars now, So this
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: is partly so we're like when I worked for Ronnie,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: that was like a whole education and like tobacco products
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: again because he's a millwright. So all the guys that
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: worked for him are all like a Lottam addicted to
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: booze lotm addicted to dip. Ronnie he wasn't then he
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: became because he got in like he started smoking cigars
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: like a gentleman. He started getting like he like I
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: can see that guys going the other direction, like a gentleman,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: he'd like smoke a cigar with the boys. The next
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: thing you know, he's chained smoking him. Yeah. I think
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: that is something through to your question. Current for me tobacco,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: when I got started into it was the camaraderie like
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: co workers at the rancher, my uncles and dad. It's
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: like you at the end of the day or at lunch,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: you'd like, I'll have a dip together. Yeah. Dirt was
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: born on a cattle ranch, and he was saying that
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: when when you got you could shoot parade, what the
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: hell was it? I said that at headquarters they had
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: the essentials at their store, so that we were like
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: an hour from like a small last town, you know.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: But at at the ranch headquarters, you could you could
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: just grab a box twenty two shows or Copenhagen snuffcannon.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: It would just be taking off your pay for that bullets. Yeah,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: that was the two things they had in the store. Yeah,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: that's my kind of store. Wait, so when you tried
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: it around the campfire, did you go through the ritual vomit? No,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: because here's let me give my full tobacco history. Uh,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: my man smoked for a long time. So when my
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: old man was in the war and oneth off the war,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: like in World War Two, they gave you cigarettes. Your
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: sea ration would come with three cigarettes inside of it.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: They also he was staying, so he got queued up
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: in North Africa, and then they went down to invade
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: Italy at Anzio beach hat but they all just got
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: rat holed away in North Africa while they're getting ready
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: to do the to start doing all the beach invasions,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: and he got into a kind of a nasty business
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: where they would take cartons. The North Africans wanted American cigarettes,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: so they would take cartons of cigarettes, take all the
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: packs out, pack it full of sawdust to get the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: right haft, put two packs on the end, and sell
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: them out of the trains because people are jones and
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: so bad for American cigarettes. And you'd kind of hold
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: it out, take the money and then hand them the thing.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: And you want to get into two packs and there's
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: a carton. So he got into that racket, he used
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: to explain to me, but worked very very hard to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: quit smoking, so he would have beaten my ass back. Okay,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: let me give you example how bad this dude. I
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: should find this guy to write him a letter of apology.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Our neighbors had some cousin or something got out of
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: the Marine Corps come to live with him. His name
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: was John. I'm not gonna give his last name, j
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: O n no h. He was. He was a bad
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: smoker and uh real bad smoker. Remember, ran around of
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: cowboy boots. But anyways, around the time he started living
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: there and smoking and everything, just coming out of the
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Marine Corps, we got onto smoking corn silks rolled up
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: in newsprint, and we got caught smoking corn silks rolled
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: up a new sprint out in the woods. And my
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: old man promptly went over there and blamed the dude
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: out of the Marine Corps for it and gave him
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: an asked you and blame with this had nothing to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: do with it, right. So a lot of like like
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: various like tobacco interactions. In fifth grade, we're making agricultural
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: maps where you had to glue the agricultural product onto
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: a map. Okay, so the Midwest glue some corn someone
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: down there had for some reason, someone brought in tobacco
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: and fifth grade me and Stanley Johnson ate a bunch
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: of it. They had to call our moms I was.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: I was. I'm not kidding. I was, honest to God
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: having hallucinations. I was unbelievably sick. How much did you
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: guys eat? I don't remember how in fifth grade I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: took it out in the playground, trying to pretend that
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: we knew that it was like a thing to do,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: that you're supposed to eat it, and we ate it out.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Josie Way, I was spitting on his dog, and oh, yeah,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: we knew all that. Yeah, Buzzard's got the same as worms,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: like all that rolling around our heads and so sick.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I was, honest to God hallucinating. So I think that
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: those sets of experiences nothing to do with my dad
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: conning Arabs out of that. But like all the other stuff,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: UM was never into it. Now. The one positive experience
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I've had with tobacco but I didn't do because I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: don't want to become I don't want to become an
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: addict is uh Um. Down in New Mexico. One of
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: my friends had like some kind and he pours bourbon
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: and romans something I don't want to name him. Mike Rule,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: I think, opens the bag up and pour some booze
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: in there. Bag opens his chewbag up dumps booze in it. Ye. Wait, Jared,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: do you have a bourbon or something flavored? Yeah, we
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: got this yellow bland which is pineapple room smell that one.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: You crack it open, Steve. When I says pack, dip,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: spit and joy, Steve, will you try something with me?
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: This is this isn't this is yeah, this is the
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: pac of free. They're still nicetine in it, but there's
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: no tobacco, huh, Steve. When I was guiding back in
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the day, some guy gave me a cigar speaking of like,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: I can't work with smoking this cuban cigar. And I
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: was like eighteen, and I felt real bad if I
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: didn't finish this thing. So I was rolling down the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: river with this cuban in my mouth, telling him the
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: cast left, tell him the cast right, with this giant cuban,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: and he was. It was like a celebratory cigar for
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: catching a big fish. About ten minutes in of rowing
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: with the cigar in my mouth, ended up puking all
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: over the christ You did yeah, And that that day
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: I did yeah. And I had to switch to uh
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: switch chewing, you know, after that, just because there's too
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: much smoke so work working man, Yeah, for sure, too much.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: I got a really bad tobacco experience. We went to
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: see Stepping Wolf, Commander Cody and Head East all in
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: concert and had some King eddies. I remember everybody getting
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: sick of puking off those king eddies, Like, what's what's
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: a king eddie? Oh? Those like ones you get at
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: the gas station. Ye, yeah, that's sick from that. Yeah.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: I celebrated my high school graduation with some cheap ass
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: cigar and then I turned green, got real sick through
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: up everywhere, and that was still smoked some cigars since
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: But this what did you throw one in already? No?
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't because I'm not sure if I want this
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Georgia piece. Yeah, I'll go yet, all right, I think
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: are you afraid of puken? I mean, I'll probably leave
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: it in for a short amount of time before I
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: start to get dizzy. I'm really sensitive to nicotine. So
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: keep keep walking me through how you got into this? Then,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: so you eventually wanted to quit? No, no, no, no,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I never wanted to quit. Chesters trying to quit, well,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: chesters trying to quit, dirt quit quitting. Yeah, I got
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: a big box. I hit here for you. We were
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: in South America, and here here's how Dirt was gonna quit.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: We're in the jungle. Okay, I can see. I'm so
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: abs pure to I don't I need a lesson of
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: how to do this. Dirt brought to South America with him.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: He brought a kind of true he does not like,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: and it was gonna be how it was. This is
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: his quit plan. What kind did you bring? I think? Yeah,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: I think it was like I was in no grizzly.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Well it was grizzly, but like wintering green or something. Okay,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: broad a kind you didn't like. That's a that's a
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: big one. Okay, wait I should pinch off a much
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: smaller amount. I was gonna say. I told Steve this
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: in Arkansas. If you don't, you're small of a dip.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Do you end up swallowing it and get it? Do
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: you ever know anybody that gets addicted to the alternative
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: or is it always go the other direction? Well this
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: has nicotine in it. What I'm saying, no one ever
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: like didn't dip but then got alternatives and got hooked
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: on alternative for sure. I think the Zans are a
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: great example. Yeah, so like Zan's are a great example.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Like you said, they're just it's just nicotine, salt and powder,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: just water and that's about it. In a in a pouch,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: starts on it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I know
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: a handful of in my mind thinking about now, handful
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: of women, women who never I'm messing this up. I
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: can't even practice. I'm taking mind out. I'm scared. So
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: you're doing it like the Swedish way. Now you got
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: it in your palm. That's called bacon a prilla. Okay,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: so I'm doing that. Whatever you just said. It's a
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: wrap song right there in a prilla. Already got my nose,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: got too scared. That's perfect, that's perfect. I'm not gonna okay.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: And then the upper lip or the lower lip, it
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Lower like like to one side. Put
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: it just put it right, Steve like mouth that was,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: I'll start to hallucinate. Me and Stanley Johnson. We're back
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: in fifth grade on the playground. Man, I was gonna
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: have a while. I was hallucination. Just put it right
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: to scar the side, right on your canine. My grandpa
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: always called it wormed or like growing up as a shirtman,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: some coming. It's super fine. That was impossible that I
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: got buzz that quick. Yeah, yeah, I swear I got
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: a buzz. So we we got the same amount of nicktaine.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: It's in like coping. I he grizzly and this stuff
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: you had killer vanniller. Do you like the flavor? Though?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: I love nice cream. I chewed up and eat it.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Look good, looks No, this is a little kind of
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: blue the whole day. And I should I should spit
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: off in so I don't. Yeah, I mean like when
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: you when you start to feel it, juice up. That's
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: just spit it right and in the job. So it's
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: not tobacco. No, it's not tobacco. What is this? This
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: is our is our own blends. So a lot of
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: other companies that are do uh alternatives. They use mint leaf,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: which is very similar, but mint leaf, if you flavor
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: ment leaf, it just still tastes like mint. So they'll
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: come out with like a bourbon mint leaf, but it's
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: still just tastes like mint, and you don't want bourbon
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: and mint mixed together. Some companies will use corn silk,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: which no flavor really gets into that. Yeah, it's just
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's not they kind of just sit on the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: shelves in the gas station. Nobody really likes them, you know.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: And so we we used uh we basically sourced the
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: world for years on trying to find the best leaf
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: and we found a tea leaf that we love and
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: um and that we are process of making. This is
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: more we basically do more than tobacco companies will do
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: with their dip with this. And like if you'll notice
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: our dip, like when you have it in, it's it's
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: got more robust flavor than a lot of tobaccos because
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: you don't the tobacco is almost a little bitter when
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: it comes to a dip, and so ours, like for instance,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: this root beer, we got one called Rambling root beer.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: I mean that thing just tastes like straight up like
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: barks root beer, mug root beer. Um, so yeah, it's
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: it's uh, it's doing really well. But the biggest thing
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: is we just wanted to put something out there that
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: didn't suck, because every tobacco alternative I ever tried was horrible.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: It was just like it made you. I mean, it
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: probably helped you quit because you just didn't want to
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: do it anymore, or you would just go right back
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: to dipping grizzly or copening. So I ought until Dirt's
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: quit and plan. Oh yeah, I went to South America
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: with a bad kind he it like, and chewed the
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: ship out of it. Well. His plan was since he
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: didn't like it, he wouldn't burn through it, and once
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: it was gone, he was gonna come back to America
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: and never dip again. But he said he got back
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: to America and went into a gas station first thing,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: and he said the tins were actually speaking to him. Yeah,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I said, he said, they're they're calling to him. Yeah,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: so you're bad. Tobacco was grizzly Wittner Green? Yeah, I
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: think it was. I can't remember, but yeah, that and
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: it didn't. I didn't chew that much on that trip
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: because I didn't have much. That's when I got back
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: to the States, I was looking for it and Taylor,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: what do you like the grizzly winter green couches? Dirt,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: what's your old man like? Oh he's grizzly, So I said,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Dirt's old man likes grizzly. And I said to Dirt, um,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: you don't choose grizzly. No, here, here, here's Dirt's quote.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Dirt said, no, I got a good job. They called
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: it a welfare bearyer, the welfare bearers what they used
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: to go all of it. Now it's a lot better
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: because back in the day, Grizzly used to be the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: cheap one, and now Grizzlies just as good as copening.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Grizzly was trying to get onto Kodiak's group, right because
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: Kodiak like Kodiak Bear and they're like, oh, we'll does
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: go with the Kodiak had the stronger nicotine, didn't the
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: long cut or what was the Kayak not Kyla. That's
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: where I started. They had certain winter grain like a Kodiak.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: I remember working at a plastic plant and it was
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: like a little bit stronger than a normal like Gusli
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: or the Kodiak is they use a better tobacco. It's
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: more premium tobacco than than what other companies used. The
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: only reason I switched to the Grizzly, I like the
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Copenhagen was because they made to meet a better pouch
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: than um. Grizzly made a better pouch than the Copenhagen
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: was like a little white little cloth. But I mean
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: personal preference there's something to Jerry you're saying about like
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: the sweet the snooze is do you leave a like
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: the generals? I have leave a weird aftertaste bitterness. Yeah, Um,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: I got one of my good buddies from way back logger.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: We all cheered Copenhagen in college and stuff, and then
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: um he quit a big deal and I hadn't seen
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: him for like five years, and who was krim got
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: that front. I'm trying to like feel what's going on
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: right now. If you're feeling the buzz, i'd recommend spitting
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: it out already. I don't know if I felt a
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: buzz or if I have if I was like having
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: an adrenaline rush out of my fear he gave you
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: the placebo dip. I'd like to know if that was true,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: because I could have had just a rush of like
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: whatever childhood memories. I was a real deal. But so
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: this is gonna puke this buddy for us. I'm still okay,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: but it's coming out. So I see I see him this,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: I see him a couple of months ago. Well I'm back.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: I got I got mixed up. So he quit, Like
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: how you got kind of a camouflage Hawaiian shirt. This
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: this is you know they got smoker's jackets. This is
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: my dipping shirt. Yeah today I work. It's like a
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: camel Hawaiian shirt. That's a great shirt. Breeze real well too.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: But um so Forest haven't seen him forever. We go
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: have a beer somewhere and pulls out one of that
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: one of your tins wanted. Oh really yeah, interested in
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: the outlaw can. I hadn't seen it before. And this
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: was before I knew we were going to be doing this.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I quit and I tried getting
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: on generals but they tasted like like cap piss after
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: a while. And now he's junior, he's hooked on your outlaw.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's and he's the type of dude
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: who needs to chew like he's got six kids, gowns
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: the log and company, like you gotta give yourself a
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: break every once. So you feel that if someone has
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: six children and owns a log, like they're just gonna
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: have to chew. Well, I'm saying like nicotine is one
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: of those one of those things in life, like it's
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: a little reward. I think that says it's having a
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: piece of cake in your pocket and when you run out,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like that person he's like,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: hey man, you got any cake? You know, Yeah, that's
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: a personal thing. I could relate to the um. I
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: can relate because I used to have where I used
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: to drink way too much. Like I used to get
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of alcohol, but a lot of alcohol. If
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: I wasn't out in the woods, I couldn't no way,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Like I couldn't be home um and not drink. But
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: if I was in the mountains, no desire to drink.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: But if I was home, I would get just a
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: terrible thirst. And it wasn't until I had kids that
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: I was able to stop drinking. Not stop, but like
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: mostly stopped basically now like I only drinking out. It
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: was like whatever, I'll just have a drink. Headaches right well.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: And I got where I started to feel guilty about
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: being hungover, and I felt like my kids didn't ask
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: to be born. But they wake up in the morning
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: ready to go, and you have a hangover. It's like
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: it's not their problem that they're there in awake in
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: your house like you had them, so as then want
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: to be like annoyed by them and have a hangover,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: but you you had that reward system before your kids,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: equivalent to like yeah, man, at night, like if I
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: was writing or doing work and I got done, um,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: that was like the immediately finish up by am bor stiffy.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Did you have anything in your process of writing that
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: you did like a fix? Was you just clean headed? No? No, no, no, totally.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: All that stuff is alive. Man. But when we were studying,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: when I was like learning to be a writer and
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: went to graduate school and everything with a lot of
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: kids that want to be writers, we all looked up to.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: We all thought that the cool writers were the ones
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: that supposy like we're like that, you know, like everybody
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: has image of like the drunk you know Arles Bokowski. Yeah,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: like you're all wasted three in the morning. No man,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: ten am Monday morning, that's when you write. Like, uh No,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I came to think that that was
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: a total lie. I think that's that's maybe one out
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: of a hundred. That's the way him in a way
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: he didn't. I mean in the afternoons he would drink. Yeah,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: one out of a hundred writers, like I don't when
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: people talk about like writing drunk, I just don't, like,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's I don't I don't. I
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's really a thing. Alcohol does not
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: help my writing or my stage because you think stupid
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: ship's funny exactly. But then Taylor, you quote you quoted
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: Einstein to yeah, chew and chew, and yeah, what I
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: so Einstein he thought of his greatest ideas well in
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: the process of the motion of chewing. So he might
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: not have been chewing tobacco, but he's probably chewing gum
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: or something like that. And there's some kind of like
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: firing mechanism of the process of chewing. So when I'm
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: writing a song or something, it's like I have a
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: dip in or this or that. But I mean some
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: of his greatest ideas he was chewing something, which is interesting,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: you know funny My kids leverage that because when I
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: was a little boy, uh back when we're eating that
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: tobacco and whatnot, you couldn't have gum in school and
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: you could wear a hat and uh now you can
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: choot gum. Wow. Yeah, my kid, My wife just bought
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: my kid a big old sack of some kind of
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: like little lifesaver type things. He's going to bring down.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: He says he needs it for doing his math test.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: He man the son get good grades, making proud. Second,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: I had a my anthropology teacher in college, and Missoula
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: would tell us if you're a smoker before a test.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: He encouraged people to go smoke a cigarette before they
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: took the test. For some reason, he had some anthropological
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: stimul Yeah, he had something dictaine. I mean, they've done
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: studies on a word. It's you know, it's just like
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: caffeine and stimulates brands. It stimulates you kind of. Even
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley and stuff. People that are there, like
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: New Tropics, they'll use nicotine, you know, like the little
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: zins or like a nicotine tablet as a stimulant, you
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: know what. But to me, it doesn't stimulate. I mean
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: maybe after doing it too much, it doesn't. Your tolerance
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: is probably real high. You still have that ammonium thing
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: and just now took it out. But yeah, that's good.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: You got a buzz, I mean, pretty better than the grizzly.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh okay, so we're still gonna get what
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: you when you canna do for us whatever you like. No,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: you had one in mine. He's hell's that now? But
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know a's where as your guitar right there behind?
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Oh ship? Can I pick it up? What was the same?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Put the put the mic to the forget it? Well, no,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to play anything. No, no, but
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: we're gonna try. When I play a guitargo a you
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: gotta start somewhere. But you're a writer, so why don't
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: you play that in a company? Something that comes to mind,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: this is you're doing? Because all my saw long as
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: I think over like, um, well, my kids, so anytime
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I wear a button up shirt with collars on it,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: my kids like, why do you look so fancy? Just
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: so fancy? So I wrote a song about myself called
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: big Dog? How did you get so fancy? Come on?
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: Come on playing? You get so fancy? You know it's
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: a big dog. How did you get so fancy? A
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: little coming around the mountain? Which comes but Jared walked
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: me through. How so how did you go from like
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: um you YouTuber YouTuber to um tobacco magnate hopefully cover
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: a dip aficionado saying that's funny. I did not know that.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Um well, I just I mean I did so much
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: stuff on dip, and I feel like I've basically learned
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: more than anyone out there on on the process of
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: this and actually making something good. So then we ended
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: up starting out long became pretty much the big uh
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: tobacco free dip out there. So so he's a tobacco
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: free magnet. Yeah to bad. Yeah, tobacco free magnet. Yeah. Now,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't get me wrong, I still
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: love tobacco. What's your favorite personal favorite out of anything?
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you like out of your blends
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: even maybe like a winter Green or like my favorite
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: out of this one is I love the Sweet Tea
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: because I like the is one real and got tobacco. Yeah,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: I got their question for you. Yeah, explain your new
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: album Fishing Songs. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a I'm
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: a musician as well. The only thing I know how
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: to play the G string. I reckon. That's all you did. Yeah,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: so I got enough to get you in trouble. But yeah,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: so I got an album. Well by the time this
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: is out at the drop, but like you've seeing it
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, you're Fishing Songs. Yeah. Yeah, so we we
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: did it like a little EP called Fishing Songs. That.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: Um it's just I got hunting songs coming out in November,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: and uh so, yeah, I've been I've always been doing
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: like comedy music, just writing stuff. I just enjoyed a
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: lot just writing stuff. And um so I had this
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: idea of like, man, I just like all these people
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: that follow me, they love fishing and hunting, so might
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: as well write songs about it. I just feel like
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: there's not enough good fishing songs out there. So there
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: really is not a lot of fishing songs. No, and
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: if they are, they're very like manufactured by Nashville. And
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I shouldn't say there's not a lot of
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: fishing songs. There's not a lot of fishing songs that
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: have made their way into the sort of in the
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: dark nyably fishing whistle jump ran, Yeah, but that's not
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: a fishing yea. There's this guy in the Wisconsin named
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: spid Peeper. I don't know if he's playing. He's got
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: some great fishing songs like I'm Gonna strap the canoe
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: to Mini Van, I got my Cooman stole and a
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: portable can the whole fishing song. That was a beautiful
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: voice right there, Country boy can servive it's got a
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: fishing line. And what's funny, you couldn't It was illegal
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: in Michigan. You couldn't use a set line or a
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: trot line in Michigan, so people didn't know what it was.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: But we had a trout and uh, I want to
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: be hell billies. When I was a kid, they thought
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: he said, um, we can skin a buck, we can
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: run a trout line, because they didn't know what a
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: trot line was, or they thought he was saying we
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: can skin a buck, we can run a trap line,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: not knowing that he's actually saying we can skin a buck,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: we can run a trot line. Country boy Cancer Vive.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: I'll just play a little bit of this now, which
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: let's see you got catfish fever, tree pounder. We've always
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: ridge pounds, kiss my bass? K which one? Which one
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: should I play? Play? You play tree pounder if you
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  Speaker 1: that's like limb lining it basically, Yuh, call my buddies
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  Speaker 1: and tell them to meet at first light. We're going
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  Speaker 1: fishing in the morning. It just feels right, man, that
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: boat looking real nice. Can't wait to have a fight
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  Speaker 1: on the deck where I'm keeping that line tight. All
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  Speaker 1: my buddies, No I want to go pro. They always
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  Speaker 1: laugh and say, yeah, good luck, bro. It's kicking me
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: y off, and I'm so sick at their scarfs. I'm
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: catching fat girls gave me, but they keep breaking off.
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  Speaker 1: Once a cart officient was the size of a stark,
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  Speaker 1: had a brown color like a no rusty truck. No
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  Speaker 1: one believes me. It looks are deceived and you probably
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: caught a tree. Why aren't you perceiving treat like a
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: suree pounder? Baby walk out one of those. Dude, that's
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  Speaker 1: great man. Yeah, so we have to like two musicians here.
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  Speaker 1: Do you just feel like a competitive streak right now
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: between two of you very similar material? It's the different
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  Speaker 1: different guys like like like like the fish and here
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: you are there. It's a songwriter too. Oh yeah, well
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: so's uh little Chester is like a fake songwriter. So
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: let me tell the funny story about Chester. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: do any wrong. Chester got married and he serenaded his
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: wife at his wedding with a song, and somehow it
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: generated some confusion among the attendees and people came away
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: thinking that Chester had written the song. Am I correct?
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: That's correct? Who had actually written the song? Tyler? So
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing all about Chester's new song. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think so. But he didn't do anything to propagate
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  Speaker 1: the lie. He learned to listen to this kid learned
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  Speaker 1: to play here hand its guitar to Chester. Chester learned
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: to play just in order to serenade his wife. Now
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: that's a much more. That's a cute love story. Did
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: you like a pick? Chester? Is this standard? Pull the
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: micro over by Chester? Chester sings like a bird? Uh? Oh, boy,
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  Speaker 1: just do a quick advertisement right there, do a quickly Chester.
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  Speaker 1: He learned to do this in order to sing a
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  Speaker 1: song to his wife at his wedding. And that cute
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: that's a romantic makes me want to date Chester. I
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: always can't play when I'm in front of people, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, how did you play in front of
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: your wife at the wedding? It's a cowboy and new
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: h in South Texas. Oh this good one. His face
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: was burned deep by the sun. Part history, part sage,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: part mesquite. It's there when poncho Via was young. Tell
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: you a tale of the old days when the country
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: was wild all around. See it under the stars of
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: the Milky Way. Listen to the Kind Hotel and theo
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: boo boo boo boo yao boo hoo you pooh boo
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: you boo you poo bullo yao boo hoo you poo.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and estor listen. So I wrote a song about
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: Chester singing that song and goes it goes who yep
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: poo yep Chester that He's like Chester sings who you poo?
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: It goes Chester, something like that. I've heard some other versions,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: probably Jester goes who uh god man plays packed and
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: in Dirt's got songs? Yep, yep, tell one of the
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: names your songs, dirt, Oh, hobo song, Hobo song. That's
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: a funny story. But another time you're telling an our
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: time you bring your own instrument in yepkay, you can
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: pass it over man, room full of talent now, oh
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: real quick for you do your diddy joint. That's what
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: they call it nowadays, jazz cigarette. No, not that, like
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: don't like in rap you call song a joint. You
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: didn't know this, yeah, like the joint? How do people
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: go find you? Jared? I know where I find you? Where?
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: Where can we can you find me? I find you?
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: Jared Outlaw on Instagram? Oh yeah, yeah yeah on Instagram,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Jared Outlaw on YouTube, tell where to find you on
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: the YouTube, it's Outlaw, and then Outlaw out Doors. It's
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: just YouTube dot com slash out Law, and then YouTube
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: dot com slash out lot of doors. And then if
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: you guys want some dip, outlawed deep dot com at
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: it and you got a video where I like one
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: where you walked everybody through your boot closet. Oh yeah,
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah Outlaw merch dot com. If you want some
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: outlaw boots, I got some roots you got down right now?
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: Peel one of those off, Yeah, those are those are Outlaw.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: Get me some. Remember what I said about Remember I
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: said about cowboy hats, dude, But I don't know if
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: that extends the boot. Backwards Badass was my first song,
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: Backwards Badass. Remember when that came out? That Yeah, did
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: you got can you send me a set of these? Yeah?
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: I got on, I got work boots, I got so
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: you got comes crocks and those boots from Jasen. I
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: want to square toe. Yeah, now dirt, if you saw
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: me come strutting in the office these now you beat
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: my ass? No, he rocked that in your tracks in
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: your track pants? Yeah, long wear, I can wear my
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: track pants. My neighbor calls me coach when he sees
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: me in those pants. I'm gonna wear track pants and
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: these boots, dude, No, no, you're tinkering ones that you
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: and Jimmy have the song I wear that, yeah, my
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: little thing. Yeah. The more the older I get, like
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: if if I'm out about the more I tried it
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: embarrassing my wife. But the more I try to look
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: like a junkyard dog. My wife always trying to look nicer.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: I always trying to look worse. Have you have you
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: rocked that? Uh the Hawaii look? You had the wet suit,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: in that wet suit, I do go out there in
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: wet suit pants. No feel no compulsion to in any
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: way look good. It's just like whatever that is is gone.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: It's like thirteen years of it does it to you.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just like it's just gone. But
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: I will wear these boots in my track pants. So yeah, yeah,
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: now here's the deal though, um wid yeah, well these
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: are d's. We have a wide and a work boot
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: has a steel toe. No, I don't want that. I
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: want square toll. Yeah it's still square toes, but I
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: want to stay back. Was badass on it. I'll get
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: you a wide what's what size are you, Levin? I
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: got you. So that's how people find you. And but
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: so you you run all. So the spatuns are on
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: their own website. Yeah, that's mud Jug. That's that's not
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: my company. That's it's not yours. It's a buddy's company.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: I used to Yeah, and so um so spatoons are. Yeah,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: you can get those at mud juke dot com. And
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: we send a lot of mud jukes to the military too.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if you guys go over there, you can
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: you have a you get a free mud jug basically
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: with your purchase, so you can either get it or
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: donated to the military so they don't get their army
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: tanks and fighter jets all full of dip step exactly.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: Keeps keeps the military clean, keeps the terry clean, exactly. Okay, Taylor,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: you ready? Okay? Now, Taylor, would you ever do you
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have Chaster're open for you sometime we're
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: playing Thursday? Not we gotta go out of time for work. Uh.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: I think that I really feel like, um, I'm not
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: just saying this. Here's the way to put it where
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: it won't just seem like because because because I like you,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: we're friends. It's a phenomenal album. Here's my proof. My wife,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: I can tell you something about her, feels zero obligation
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: to you. What's that mean? Like we're friends, you've been
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: on the show. She's not like, oh, that's cute, I'll
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: go see him. She knows the album. We play in
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: our camper all the time. And when she and she
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: somehow independent of me, she didn't realize you're on the
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: show right now. Well, this is a while ago. She
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: knew that. She was like, can you call him to
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: get me ticket? It's because he's I said, well, hey,
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: he's in town, he's on the podcast. She wanted tickets
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: to go see you. Wow, that's awesome. And hadn't even
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: and this is before she even like put it all.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: She hadn't like assembled all the pieces in her head.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: She likes it. That's good, and she's not gonna go
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: do something she doesn't want to do totally. Now. The
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: cool thing about like music to me, it's like good
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: songs like you show them to children or old people
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: with old people and children like them. Usually that forces
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: people in their middle ages to like stuff and it's
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: like that's a good litmus test of like, I don't know,
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: for some reason, children like my scary songs. You know,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. But get this guy. Yeah, I showed
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: a few of my buddies some of your music. Man,
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: everyone loves it. Oh, I think you should be. I
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want like, I'm not wishing fame
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: on you, like fame in and of itself as a value.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: But I do think that I hope people find out
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: and and like, I hope more people find out for sure,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: for sure, they sure will. It's ain't quitting anytime soon.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: I got people that come up after shows like, please
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: don't stop doing this. It's like, what else would I
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: be doing? You know what I mean? A lot to quit?
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm it's the song is called Hell's half Acre.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: H h Hell's half facre. It's a deep docle. You
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: can't do nothing save my soul. Camp I forgiven when
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: I fool what I've done, The thing left to so
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: un wrong. So what's turned on the gas and strike
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: up a match, Jump in the car and drive away
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: fast leaven nothing but fire on the black top, food,
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: blue white smoke, grassing in my review, got the hounds
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: on my hues. You're blooding my track. And once you
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: go to hell, boy can come back. Get the Easianna
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: founding over bye, so stout the hammer roll and these
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: all blue. I'm gonna shave my face. I'm gonna ditch
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: my copper, down my sleeves, cover of desco close. My
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: eyes are still in the scream on every night while
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: store even, nothing but the fire on the black top,
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: blue white smoke rising in myria. Got the hounds on
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: my hues. You're putting my truth and what you or
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: the game come back? She'll go st in my cousin
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: the skillets of my whoa. The girl wants to hot
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: lund in. But I can ride out with hopping of
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: free train ye through the end of the line. Never
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: be the thing close. My eyes are still here, the
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: stream on every noight or out of still to leave
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: nothing but the fire on the black top, the blue
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: white smoke rising in myrio. Got the hounds on my eels,
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: Your blood of my track. Whatt you go to bollgain
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  Speaker 1: right to supper hold than you have a set with
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: this drink nice wet your whistle would my juice s