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Bye Week Banter · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast with bronzy glow,
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. Happy hump day, big guy.
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  Yes, sir. Yes sir.
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  I got a little little little extra bonus tonight class guide.
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  Let out early. So I had a little little more
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  time than I'd planned. So, we're rolling and rocking
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  tonight on time, ready to talk a little by week's Shenanigans
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  here and see what we can. We can chop up and figure out
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  about this offense man. Bye week.
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  Banner. Some self-reflection tonight.
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  Some digging into the statistics, some reviewing.
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  This conferences and digging into Brian had a great time
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  today. Brian got to dig into the
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  essentially foundation of the crew offense little history
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  project today guess history, prop history project Bottom by
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  some conversations. We heard earlier this week with
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  Jerrod Evans and then just me getting very bored me getting
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  bored. Last night, Curtis is like, take
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  a look at this. I was like, I'll take a look at
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  it. Now, I'm going to look at for
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  other games and and we're going to, we're going to put this into
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  the into the show tonight. So, I triggered, Brian, because
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  I'm sitting here, this is kind of what it happen.
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  What we're going to go about later on the episode.
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  I'm literally sitting here saying, I wonder if the foo
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  offense is the same as it was a decade ago, when he was scoring
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  43 points, plus a game. I TCU so I essentially were I
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  was able to find A full gameplay with pretty much in all 22 View
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  and the side view, I sent it to Brian.
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  We go through like 15 minutes looking at plays couple things.
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  Brian immediately says, why aren't we doing this now?
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  We'll get into that. But we're going to be first guys
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  is we're going to go deep. Do some statistics about what
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  we're seeing on offensive, and defensive side of the ball and
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  then we can go into the oppressors with food ham and
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  Horn. Sounds like a how crisp
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  Thanksgiving dish, right there. I want some food ham corn and
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  then we're going to have that turducken.
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  Is that what is that what it was like for ducking?
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  What? You get your size as well.
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  Yeah, exactly. And then we're going to go look
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  at that table on making some pictures for some games this
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  weekend. We are not going to be here
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  Sunday, this is the by we get hokey.
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  So like the Hokies we're practicing in the middle of the
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  week. We're going to get the weekend
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  off their heads refill here. Any picks this week guys soon,
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  or you can flip a coin against our picks.
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  Hey, I'm better than a coin flip.
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  Now guys, one flip. Hey, start with my current
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  record, hold up. If you have been betting with me
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  after the absolutely horrendous, start us the three in God.
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  I am, let's see three and nighttime 18 and 12 against the
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  spread after week one. I'm a sick.
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  So he said you're doing pretty good.
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  What? You got?
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  A little bit of data. Exactly, exactly.
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  All right. Well let's kick it off here.
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  Brian let's kick it off. Looks look at the defensive side
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  of the ball and let's do the first two steps on a thread and
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  talk about is this third down conversion.
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  Hokies to me, this is Elite territory 28.8%, conversions
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  against them, 15th in the country, and they're only giving
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  up 71 first downs. And in four games folks, that's
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  roughly about 16 17 a game. Which when you start talking
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  about, people aren't converting. Plus you have a guy like Peter
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  more. Shout out Peter more freshman
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  29th, and a country with 42 yards, net.
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  Even teams that are moving the ball brine, you know, they're
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  not getting far, and they're not converting on third down.
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  So great start for our defense, right?
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  Absolutely great. Start for the defense on third
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  down. And as you said, with Peter
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  more, when you look at the statistics, I think another
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  thing they're showing is that we're doing a great job in
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  average starting field position. For our defense won, com1 climb
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  over on the other side of the field one time and that's huge.
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  That's that's definitely playing in to our advantage there.
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  Any time you can Take your, the other team have to drive 65 plus
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  yards to score a touchdown. Every time you're doing
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  something right? And that's regardless of whether
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  it's kickoff pump, whatever we're doing a good job of making
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  them have to start fairly deep in their own territory with
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  every drive and that, that definitely UPS the chances of
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  the defense, being able to get off the field without
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  surrendering any points. They've been doing that is
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  they've been doing that as well. Braun scoring off.
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  Sworn defense has 15th in the country, borderline Elite 15
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  .25, the game and that's including we haven't stopped on
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  anybody. In the Red Zone, yet teams are
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  747 in the red zone for touchdowns three field goals.
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  So statistically we are not. We're literally at the bottom of
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  the barrel because every time they get down there they score
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  unfortunately. But in four games to only have
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  seven Red Zone trips, I'd take that, okay?
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  You're not getting in there either.
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  You're gonna have to beat the long plays, or you're kicking
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  long field goals. Yeah.
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  And I mean, I'd like to see, maybe that that foreign three
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  swapped, I'd like to see four field goals against three
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  touchdowns. But the the number the total
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  number with seven trips. I mean, that's good, it's over
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  the course of four games. So I'll take that all day
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  especially It's we've only surrendered, really, you know, a
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  handful of big plays on defense as well.
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  Well, three the Carolina screen, the long-running West Virginia,
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  and the corner smashing West, Virginia, along with their
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  50-plus yard field goal. So even when teams again and
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  there's only what one, over 40 yard for your plus yard
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  touchdown. Yeah.
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  So we're not seeing what we were seeing last year or we're not
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  seeing those big gash runs. Yeah, you know you look they'll
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  occasionally bus to 15-yarder on us but we're not giving up
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  consistently those big cashiers of 30-plus that are going for
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  touchdowns exactly and that's what was killing this defense
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  last year. And you know with that stopping
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  the tackling better essentially, people can throw things and and
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  I hope somebody comment some of the chat.
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  Dax is playing his natural position.
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  And tis is playing his natural position.
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  They're both playing 85% of the time they're not, they're no
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  longer sharing snaps. So we're not splitting snaps and
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  actually playing a position that he's comfortable with.
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  And we saw him out on the field, a whole lot more against
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  Richmond. Then we have previous week's.
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  Yeah, because they were a more of a run.
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  First offense, especially once Mancuso went down on the first
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  drive there, they were printing. They were very much a run first
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  off. And so that meant that we didn't
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  necessarily need that true nickel package, that we've been
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  deploying against some of the other teams that like to swing
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  the ball around a lot more. Exactly.
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  Now, the last few things I'm going to throw on with the
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  defense here. Total Defense.
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  We just put that out there. First 47, that 326 yards very
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  respectable up close to 60 positions from last year and
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  where we were. So okay, I'm goes on that.
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  Having a full All Seasons, definitely helpful.
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  But the the other pieces I want to take a look at here, is we
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  forced six turnovers 50th in the nation?
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  And what do you usually look at Brian?
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  What do you want to know about when you hear about forcing a
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  fair? Number of turnovers in the first
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  course of four games. What do you think?
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  Pressure in this team's getting pressure.
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  Okay. I like that 25th in the country
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  and sacks three and a quarter of game 45th in the country and
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  tackle for loss at six point, eight a game.
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  So, you know, like I think Richmond had a total like 62
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  plays do the math and if you're, if you're averaging 10, If
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  you're averaging ten times getting in the backfield then
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  basically 20% of the time you can book.
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  We're getting there. Not wanting what do we got?
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  I wish there was this that out here PFF, probably has it.
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  I love to go see it. Hits and pressures.
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  If you're getting there, fifteen twenty percent of the time with
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  Saxon tackles for loss, how much more additional pressure you're
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  putting on that defense. So bad throws forced fumbles,
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  five, interceptions, total obviously, Jermaine Waller.
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  Leading the way. And one of the top guys in the
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  country. So yeah, deep that it will go
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  ahead and say, you know, we've talked about the last few weeks
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  that we haven't necessarily seen.
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  You know, the stat sheet filled up by bar.
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  No. But it looks like the impact of
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  the defensive line as a whole is there.
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  And you know, bar knows impacting the game in different
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  ways that aren't necessarily showing up on the stat sheet.
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  But we definitely need to get him involved a little more in
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  terms of getting back there in the in the back.
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  It again like we saw kind of the start of the season and we're
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  going to talk about that a little bit J.
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  Hamm address that a little bit in the press conference.
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  So we'll talk about that a little bit more but it's nice to
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  see the Hokies getting pressure on the quarterback.
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  Again getting tackles for loss disrupting the running game
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  because a lot of that was absent really last few years, but last
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  year a particular particular last year.
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  So in general, as we look at all the data points in what we've
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  seen on the field with the defense and make sense, this is,
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  you know, I know Oh, Total Defense is 47, but you start
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  going through all these stats, do you say we're a top-25
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  defense? So yeah I mean we're up there
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  and you know, I think we talked about it.
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  When we look at whether we talk about Total Defense, your
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  points, I care more about points.
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  Yes. Because if you're keeping points
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  off the board, you can move move between the your own 20 and are
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  40 all day. But, you know, we're going to
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  lock it down as long as we lock it down after that, it's all
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  good to me. Get that 45, 50 yards of offense
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  and then get nothing out of it. So again, you know, Scoring its
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  Elite. And if you take away the couple
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  of big plays, it would probably be in the top five, but some
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  things to work on, not perfect, on defense yet, but, definitely
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  some things to work on. All right, I'm gonna go to the
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  office now because okay, that ain't is good and let's go with
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  the two things we're doing actually, okay, okay, I'll put
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  together, first of all, we've only had four turnovers all year
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  36 in the country. We are not just handing the ball
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  two teams which is good because the way the defense is playing
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  way the defense is playing. If you don't turn the ball over
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  you don't necessarily put them in bad spots.
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  They get they get the ball back to you pretty quick.
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  Yeah. Now the other believe it or not
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  this is not a bad statistics on those one third down
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  conversions, we're 40th in the country.
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  We're converting about 45% of our third Downs.
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  But I know something me and you talked about and it's going to
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  go into this. We're only getting 78 first
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  downs for the year. So we're only getting about 19 a
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  game and we just talked about our defense giving up about 16
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  17 a game. We're not far behind.
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  So I know you talked about the Richmond game.
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  Ryan particular a little earlier this week about You know, it's
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  cool to be able to convert their downs but you're tired of it,
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  right? Yeah.
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  Middle Tennessee, State and Richmond.
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  We got to third down way more than we should have.
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  There's no reason that we should not have been successful at a
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  higher rate on first and second down where we weren't forced
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  into. So many third down
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  opportunities, converting on third down opportunities is
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  important and it's a good tune up for some of those hard.
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  Our matchups that we're going to face starting next week with
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  Notre Dame, but at the same time we should be able to assert
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  ourselves against a Richmond or Middle Tennessee, State and not
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  get forced into situations where we're having to convert on third
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  down at such a rate that we have.
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  Yeah, and it's just it's one of those things.
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  It's like we don't have those explosive plays where we're
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  getting 15 20 yards of Pop. Five to six times a game that
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  essentially against teams like that.
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  That's how you crush them quick now.
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  All right, I've done the good, okay?
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  Bad and ugly. It's there, it's just bad and
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  ugly. It's not bad being ugly.
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  It's just, it's all bad and ugly.
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  It's a combination, all bad and ugly.
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  Let's start with this man. Yeah, the Red Zone, efficiency.
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  Where 107th out of 130, some teams, we are only converting
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  64% of our Red Zone. You know, we've only had 14
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  trips, we've inverted 9 obviously, there's three we know
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  about, but in general even though that like you can say
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  well that game really skews it, It's your also sit here, you
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  take those out, it's like 6 or 11, you're still about the same
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  percentage in the other three games.
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  And luckily, for us, the defense has been bawling because we
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  loved so many points on the field.
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  I don't know. For when they talk about it
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  right now, I mean, can we just start?
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  Let's just count how many potential on field will say it
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  will go 5 number 21 points at West Virginia right?
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  Right. Yeah.
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  What would we say 14 points at North Carolina?
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  I'd say at least at least 14 in North Carolina and then probably
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  7th or Richmond in Middle Tennessee.
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  We agree, you agree. There's been a girl's a couple
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  D, the Peter Moore Bluff up, the getting behind on the chains.
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  When we were driving you like, okay, start doing the math and
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  it's like, okay, 30 next thing, you know, it's like it's 50
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  points, Max, when we left on the board, you throw 50 points on
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  there are dismal scoring off the sense of numbers. 99th in the
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  country. We got 99 problems and scoring
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  is definitely. One point three and a half a
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  game. Yeah.
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  I mean, we just got to get better.
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  I mean, we've missed a couple field goals that were giving a
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  chip shots, because we're on the wrong hash for good or ill.
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  I mean, that's at this point, we, that shouldn't be a problem,
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  but the fact that it is means that we need to start adjusting
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  to it, right? Take that into account and you
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  know, it's bad enough. Not converting, it's even worse.
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  When you when you leave. On the field in the kicking
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  game. So that's kind of doubled down
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  on our our lack of success in the Red Zone.
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  It's like, okay, we're not getting seven then half the
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  time. We're not getting three either
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  whether it's because we choose to go for which, in some of
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  those cases I think was necessary.
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  Well, and in some of those cases, it probably would have
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  been smarter to take three and then, but, you know, we've had a
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  couple times where we've been inside the 10 and miss the
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  three. So, you know, when that's what
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  that may be playing into the idea of rolling the dice there.
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  Exactly. So, you know, it's really kind
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  of one feeding the other at this point.
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  And when you're playing down like we were most of West
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  Virginia, that's when you start making those kind of choices,
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  right? You have to I mean, we made
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  three choices to go for touchdowns versus kicking field
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  goals. And that game, if Romeo could
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  have made them from that close, its nine points.
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  It's a six-point game three point.
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  When you probably don't, you don't know at the time that
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  you're To get two turnovers in the second half that are going
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  to set you up nicely. Nope.
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  And overall, Braun the total offense.
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  We're at 113. I mean, this is, this is like
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  crime 2000's offense, which Stanny 113 329, ouch.
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  I mean, the thing is, we have pretty decent field position.
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  A lot of time starting probably somewhere in the I would say,
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  Between 30 and 35 and you count. Again, you start doing the math
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  and it's just like it translates, right?
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  We're averaging three touchdowns a game roughly 320 you do the
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  math and we've talked about the you know the the punting game
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  with Peter more there. Let's talk about the kick return
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  game are punt, return team, and our kick return team have set us
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  up pretty good. Yes, they have for most of the
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  year so and that's why. Why?
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  I mean some of the this offense has to start coming together
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  because we can't keep having the defense get us good stops or and
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  or turnovers and are kicking team.
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  Give us good field position and We Come Away with three points
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  or nothing. Most of the time.
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  We got to start putting the ball in the end zone.
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  It's very true, man. And I mean are essentially our
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  punt unit punt. Return unit is actually one of
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  the best in the nation, you know, coming in in the top 20,
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  the 145 return yards, you know, obviously you got taste
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  touchdown and and that's one of those parts where it's can we.
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  Can I say it even though this is a whole new regime is history
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  repeating itself. Its history repeating itself and
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  it's what the whole different cast of characters.
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  Yeah. And something has to be done
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  and, you know, let's just flip it over.
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  Let's hear what let's talk about, what coach Fuente had to
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  say. I think the big one I want to
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  start with here. Brian is there having practice
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  this week? We lose that in the first part
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  Monday. Yesterday and today it was with
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  primarily, all the young guys, they're looking at snap count.
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  The old guys were getting true breaks, they'll be back,
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  Thursday for some workout or Thursday, for actual practice.
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  And then Friday for workouts, I'm assuming this is probably
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  something that's just normal policy in Collegiate football.
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  I wouldn't say it's standard but I think it definitely is widely
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  used. I think it kind of depends on
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  the coach I know Fuente somewhat alluded to the fact that he used
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  to kind of have a set schedule for the bye week and he's kind
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  of changed that up over the years and kind of is done things
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  as needed for the team at the current moment.
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  And I think, looking at where we are, depth, wise and Things like
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  that, getting rest for the veteran guys, for a couple days,
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  you know, he'll up, still keep the mental sharp, right?
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  But not necessarily doing a ton on the physical side of things
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  and then coming back on Thursday and then getting that lift on
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  Friday probably the best prescription for them.
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  While the young guys that haven't had a ton of reps that
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  aren't completely banged up, get them out there.
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  Get them practicing with the first group as much of them that
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  are Icing and just make sure that they're getting to run
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  through reps against live competition.
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  I think that's what's going to be good for the bye week because
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  you know we've said it depth is a concern this year and the more
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  guys we can bring along faster, the better it's going to be in
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  the long run and some of that's going to be the wide receiver
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  group, where we've got our big three of kind of played a shit
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  ton of snaps. Yes, they have.
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  Where everybody else is not so much.
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  But we're also talking about across the defensive line,
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  especially defensive end and probably the other one is
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  offensive line, right? So absolutely, you know,
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  something else you mentioned Brian, other than the rest and
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  stuff like that is talked about, this is a week, the coaches can
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  start reviewing their skiing and what to do, and how they make
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  adjustments. There's a lot of adjustments
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  needed. And then he kind of asked the
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  question, what steps can you take to improve?
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  Are you asking too much of your players?
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  You know, I sit here and in the players are put in the position
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  that you asked me to be in. Could execution, be better?
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  Yes. But the whole piece is.
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  You've had this is where you've had a full spring.
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  You've had a full summer session.
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  You had a full fall and if you're still saying there or
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  we're asking our players to do too much, That should have been
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  answered when you got default camp.
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  Not the 4th week into the season.
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  Yeah and I think some of that speaks back to the depth right
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  because when you don't have depth you kind of start asking
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  more of the guys that know what they're doing, have the
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  experience and things like that. And sometimes They're physically
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  ready to take that on but they may not be ready to do that week
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  to week, right? Yeah.
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  And so you can see it happened in practice but when you put it
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  on a game you don't be too weak. So that's where the
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  inconsistencies can show up and sometimes putting too much on a
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  player can win that start showing up in a game, that's
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  when you see it. So that maybe what he's speaking
• 23:18
  to there, and it's hard to replicate some of that in
• 23:22
  practice. So, getting game tape and then
• 23:24
  Waiting that way is really the only way to kind of encapsulate
• 23:27
  that they said they saw it last year with Blackshear and they
• 23:33
  made some adjustments in the offseason.
• 23:35
  So sometimes the only way to really see that is by having the
• 23:38
  tape and seeing that. Okay, well, looks like he's
• 23:41
  pressing here or, you know, he's trying to do too much here or
• 23:44
  whatever it may be, and I'm staking a little bit off, you
• 23:49
  know, throwing The Change-Up might be the better option
• 23:52
  there. It's very true.
• 23:54
  And but the only thing about that Brian is your four games in
• 23:57
  and you get deeper is the more basic or this is my opinion.
• 24:02
  The more basic you become on either side of the ball easier
• 24:06
  for defense has easy for offenses to key in on what
• 24:08
  you're doing, easier for them to attack you or for being in the
• 24:12
  right spot when you attack to get you minimal gain.
• 24:15
  So it's that it's a catch-22, right?
• 24:18
  Well, yeah. And some of this isn't
• 24:20
  necessarily trimming back Responsibilities sometimes it
• 24:24
  can just be focusing on the things you're doing well.
• 24:29
  More than the things where you know you're struggling with so
• 24:34
  some of that's going to be selection some of its going to
• 24:36
  be addition by subtraction, but some of its just going to be,
• 24:40
  we're going to say we're going to keep that in our back pocket
• 24:42
  until we absolutely need it. Instead of throwing it out
• 24:44
  there, you know, multiple times a game?
• 24:47
  Exactly. All right, he took complete
• 24:50
  ownership. We already mentioned it.
• 24:52
  We're not scoring enough. When he took complete ownership
• 24:54
  saying, we had left a ton of points on the field and not
• 24:58
  being manufactured at the rate. They won't.
• 25:00
  It was good to hear him say that.
• 25:03
  And then, you know, then he talked about evaluating the
• 25:07
  coaches during the bye week, right?
• 25:09
  Yep. What they can improve.
• 25:11
  And I know Brian, he did something that you liked a lot
• 25:16
  with what he asks his coaches. Yeah, I mean, so this is this is
• 25:21
  a technique that a lot of a lot of manager.
• 25:23
  Good managers do is that, you know, they'll last questions of
• 25:28
  folks that they already know the answer to wanting them to
• 25:33
  communicate how they feel so that, they make sure that
• 25:36
  they're on the same page that a lot of times, you know, the
• 25:40
  classic thing is, you know, when you assume something, you make
• 25:42
  an ass out of you and me, you don't want to assume that you're
• 25:45
  on the same page with your coaching staff.
• 25:47
  You want to have some To confirmation.
• 25:50
  So, in lack of actual verbal, communication of that asking
• 25:56
  those types of questions, kind of gets that ball rolling,
• 25:58
  right? It absolutely does.
• 26:00
  Because if, you know, he has a question, he expects in
• 26:05
  answering this format in this box and one of the coaches is
• 26:09
  over here. Well, first of all.
• 26:14
  Does that make sense where he is, right?
• 26:17
  That's the, you get outside the box thinking, don't get me
• 26:19
  wrong. You can think outside the box
• 26:22
  and be right, and maybe had shine some light on things, but
• 26:26
  it's when they're over here, and the answer is not close to what
• 26:30
  you're looking for. You guys start kind of bringing
• 26:32
  them in into a better point of what we've been talking about,
• 26:36
  if the execution issues, right? If the execution issues are
• 26:41
  happening at certain position, those guys aren't giving those
• 26:44
  answers that he's looking for. Then you can start unraveling
• 26:48
  like, okay, now I can see why we're having the issues here and
• 26:52
  there, so me it's a very good technique, so I'm not even gonna
• 26:58
  it's a good managerial technique.
• 27:01
  Hopefully, something will come to light of it, but we'll see.
• 27:05
  We talked about third down, he said he wants to see improved on
• 27:08
  both sides of the ball for the defense, okay?
• 27:16
  Um, They literally stopping people a pretty much elite clip.
• 27:22
  So we're going to toss that away maybe even just for the offense
• 27:25
  because again we've already talked about the offense, it's
• 27:29
  not good but it's also the number of times they're getting
• 27:32
  to third down and to me it's for the number of times.
• 27:36
  I think the number of times on the, on the defense side of the
• 27:39
  ball is is fine. And you know, I think it's been
• 27:45
  it's been good to see that. There has been an improved point
• 27:49
  of emphasis of improving third down efficiency because that was
• 27:54
  awful last year on both sides of the ball in a lot of ways.
• 27:58
  So, having Improvement really on the efficiency side of things on
• 28:03
  offense and defense from 2020, has been a good sign of things
• 28:07
  to come. There, we just need to piece
• 28:09
  together consistency, right? So, when our back has been
• 28:14
  against the wall, the offenses has been okay at keeping drives
• 28:18
  alive, but You know, we've been so inconsistent first and second
• 28:22
  down that it's really hard to keep that conversion clip going
• 28:27
  through just need to. We need to be be a lot better.
• 28:30
  And part of the reason that we're so good on third Downs
• 28:33
  that we're having a lot of them because we don't have any
• 28:35
  explosive plays. Yeah.
• 28:39
  We're we don't we don't yet we don't have any explosive plays
• 28:42
  at all. I think I mean kavion punt
• 28:45
  returns probably the most explosive play all year.
• 28:48
  Then you look at like holsten's TD.
• 28:50
  He catch their explosive but they're not, they're not
• 28:55
  Buster's. When I say a bus to I'm talking
• 28:57
  like a 40 plus because 40 plus yards completely change,
• 29:02
  everything changes field position, it changes play called
• 29:04
  Dynamics If you're at the right spot obviously on the field.
• 29:09
  You almost feel like we're in scoring position now.
• 29:13
  Yeah. I mean it's definitely
• 29:14
  definitely isn't Khalil Herbert on the outside Zone finding an
• 29:18
  ally, slipping one tackle getting to the sidelines and
• 29:21
  just out running everybody, we're not doing that this year.
• 29:24
  Not at all the opportunities. I think are there.
• 29:27
  They just have to get consistently and put the guys in
• 29:30
  the right spots. Alright Braun.
• 29:34
  Hey John. How's it going?
• 29:35
  John? All right.
• 29:38
  What did I say earlier? Just want to put this back on.
• 29:42
  Now earlier in the preseason, about all these young wide
• 29:48
  receivers he's and he was hyping on to the Moon.
• 29:51
  Yep. And we've seen barely any from
• 29:55
  Jalen Jones, Dwayne Lofton and very little Joy, Jane call you,
• 30:00
  it's finally starting to come on the last couple weeks.
• 30:03
  Well, here's what I'm going to go with Brian.
• 30:05
  If I hear him, say that, if he's here next year and I hear him
• 30:08
  say it. My first thought is where he's
• 30:11
  talking about at least two of those guys are injured because
• 30:15
  that Jen is the case, Jalen Jones, injured, getting close to
• 30:21
  coming back, Jaden pay. You'd obviously, we saw him on
• 30:24
  the field, the last couple weeks but was fighting a hamstring
• 30:28
  injury, so I Limited in terms of the snap count because of that
• 30:32
  hammies. It looks like he is plotting his
• 30:34
  way into Health at this point like the ham.
• 30:37
  He's good to go, just he's not quite full speed in terms of
• 30:41
  getting his conditioning and everything back where it needs
• 30:43
  to be Jalen. Obviously been injured since
• 30:49
  pretty much the end of fall Camp, so been nice to know.
• 30:54
  No, some of that information as to why he's not seeing the field
• 30:57
  and do on Lofton, I mean, he's had had some good run out there.
• 31:03
  But I mean, in terms of consistency, you know, we've had
• 31:08
  to be on Robinson has probably been our most.
• 31:10
  Consistent receiver, whereas trays been the bigger play
• 31:13
  threat. Yeah, Tavian has been the most
• 31:15
  consistent threat. So it's he Loft and probably
• 31:20
  hasn't quite as many opportunities one with with tabi
• 31:24
  on having that much success on the field.
• 31:26
  So we definitely need to rotate them in because we cannot have
• 31:30
  those big three you know, along with Caleb's.
• 31:32
  Smith, they're playing 85% of the snaps in this office needs
• 31:39
  to be, at least like at least down 10 percentage points,
• 31:42
  right? Yeah.
• 31:43
  You want to see him only, you'd like to see them on the field
• 31:46
  for productive plays? I would say between, Eight and
• 31:51
  twelve actual plays. So at least one what would be
• 31:55
  one fold drive and we're not even close to that.
• 31:58
  I mean Lofton has one catch in four games, so he's been on the
• 32:01
  field a few times but again, it goes back to utilization Brian
• 32:06
  utilization and they're not utilizing them correctly and
• 32:11
  hopefully we'll pay you coming back.
• 32:14
  Especially having this week off and lean up the next week.
• 32:16
  Hopefully the coming-out parties against Notre Dame, which I'm
• 32:19
  sure you saw today is a celebration.
• 32:21
  All out. So now that one early announce
• 32:24
  the very which is not shocking, it's not shocking whatsoever.
• 32:28
  For also be a ton of people putting those on a secondary
• 32:30
  Market. Essentially selling those
• 32:32
  tickets to pay for next year's full season tickets.
• 32:36
  Yeah. And, and, and kinda bad move.
• 32:39
  I respect you. I respect the hustle.
• 32:41
  Exactly 7:00. 7:30, I mean, that's that's a weekend if you
• 32:47
  do, it will pick one next year, and they'll buy next year for
• 32:51
  the Winning seasons tickets and it'll go on and on like that.
• 32:54
  All right. I mentioned a few things about
• 32:56
  Braxton. Now, he talked about, he needed
• 32:59
  to reach another level of efficiency in sort of
• 33:03
  self-ownership saying, you know, it's our job to get in there
• 33:08
  again. I feel like in these, this press
• 33:11
  conference, I've heard more, you know, owning things, then maybe
• 33:16
  in the previous five years combined anytime I like The
• 33:21
  language, but if I don't see change, then it's just, it's all
• 33:24
  for naught. Yeah.
• 33:26
  Lip service, isn't it? It is, I appreciate the
• 33:31
  ownership show. Me, well, I would have to, you
• 33:35
  would have gotten a whole lot more respect from the ownership
• 33:37
  two to three years ago. I'm past just owning it being
• 33:41
  okay, show me show you something.
• 33:45
  But I mean, as he highlighted, the, I mean, the big thing is
• 33:48
  that, you know, we have done overall, a really good job of
• 33:50
  protecting the Ball. Well, yeah.
• 33:53
  And then that alone that alone is probably this offense as much
• 33:59
  as any that. You know what, we what we are
• 34:01
  able to generate, you know, we, you know, we have we haven't
• 34:06
  done a whole lot of we've shot ourselves in the foot, in other
• 34:08
  ways, but we have not shot ourselves in the foot and in
• 34:11
  giving the ball over in key areas.
• 34:13
  So, one time, one time, when we decided to put the backup
• 34:17
  quarterback at the 6 yard line, which tells me a lot about who's
• 34:20
  paying Tension out there. But yeah if you know you take
• 34:25
  that playaway just Braxton, it's been three in four games.
• 34:30
  And can I be honest? That's why we're three in one.
• 34:36
  if you say we were at somewhere between, if we were at Double
• 34:40
  that or put a few more turnovers on the board, Two and two.
• 34:45
  Probably lost UNC. So, you know, again, it's a mean
• 34:52
  the game against Richmond, was way closer than we wanted to be.
• 34:54
  I mean, we never felt like truly threatened, but at the same time
• 34:58
  it was close enough where, you know, you had to think about it,
• 35:01
  right? Exactly, um, he mentioned the
• 35:05
  coastal being good for us even if it's not good.
• 35:10
  For the conference conference is just completely down this year.
• 35:13
  Could someone get in, yes, The only reason I say that Braun.
• 35:18
  Everything in a mentioned this to people heard on the radio,
• 35:24
  this is smelling like 2007 again.
• 35:27
  We're hearing, it's constant chaos, top tens teams are losing
• 35:33
  every week in this with it. I think we're going to see that.
• 35:39
  So we're going to probably see at some point.
• 35:42
  It's going to level out where we're going to see a few less
• 35:45
  but then as soon as it gets close to rivalry week again, You
• 35:48
  going to see it ratchet right back?
• 35:50
  It's going to go through the roof.
• 35:52
  And you remember Robert week of those seven, just, I mean, like
• 35:56
  LSU lose an Arkansas and that crane, weird.
• 36:00
  A McFadden went just nuts. Yep.
• 36:03
  Then LS, you still got in the national championship game.
• 36:06
  Um, I do also like this from filling day.
• 36:09
  He talked about how by weeks have changed for him, and it
• 36:12
  didn't, he didn't really used to believe, they were any
• 36:15
  different. And now he does. think that's
• 36:19
  just now some guy who has coached close to twenty years
• 36:25
  where in the beginning it's probably I just want to keep the
• 36:27
  guys going and keep them involved and keep them where now
• 36:31
  it's Well now I can step back. I can let the kids breathe.
• 36:38
  I like the program breathing, step back and look at what's
• 36:41
  going wrong. Now, I record out of the by
• 36:45
  weeks not the greatest, I wouldn't three, the last three
• 36:49
  seasons. So hopefully he reflects upon
• 36:52
  something and he changes on this week to result in a win.
• 36:58
  Yeah, we haven't been great out of buys last three years.
• 37:03
  Really for years, I think. Four in a row.
• 37:06
  We've lost a couple of those have been against decent to
• 37:11
  above-average competition but a couple of those were stinkers.
• 37:15
  So you know when you play a Notre Dame coming out of a by
• 37:22
  this will be what the second time we played Notre Dame coming
• 37:24
  out of a by and yep played an 18 and yep until the Willis
• 37:30
  fumblerooski. Was within three now.
• 37:36
  What's your point game? He fumbled it.
• 37:37
  They go score 10. Come out the second half, pop
• 37:41
  that big playoff and optimism. Yeah, the next thing you know,
• 37:46
  it's it's still a good game because we continue to fight but
• 37:50
  you know and then last year the such a funky year.
• 37:54
  Oh yeah. Last year we had play Clemson.
• 37:56
  Yep. So so it's one of those things
• 38:00
  like Like yes, he's 013. But then on the other hand, you
• 38:07
  get to say what he also had to play two playoff teams.
• 38:12
  The other two, I don't Duke was one of them was Georgia Tech one
• 38:15
  of them. Georgia Tech not in 19.
• 38:22
  That was dude. That was do you okay?
• 38:26
  Yeah, probably because everybody's like is when you
• 38:28
  make the quarterback change because you have two weeks.
• 38:29
  Yeah, so in reality of the three seasons, it's been two Elite
• 38:34
  teams and Duke and we know what was happening in 19 in that
• 38:38
  room. So again, let's hope he figures
• 38:42
  out the right him, getting things 7 to nothing. 17, was
• 38:46
  Georgia, Tech, and I think that was just an average Georgia Tech
• 38:50
  Team. So yeah, very likely.
• 38:53
  All right, well, let's jump. Off the head coach, let's go
• 38:55
  over to the defensive room. Brian J Hamm, he opened up
• 38:58
  talking about the linebacker room.
• 39:00
  Would you hear from him? I mean likes Dak says he kind of
• 39:07
  quarterback of the defense, bring the energy and effort the
• 39:09
  passion, really likes the way Tisdale's coming along in the
• 39:15
  defense. Both of them have done a good
• 39:18
  job, leading the team in tackles, you know, wanted to
• 39:22
  there. So I think that's big huge.
• 39:24
  Somehow, you know, when you're inside linebackers and I know in
• 39:27
  general, this is a good thing when you're inside, linebackers
• 39:29
  are leading the team in tackles, that's what you like to see,
• 39:32
  means they're taking care of the trash, not a lot, skidding past
• 39:34
  the second level of the defense, so that's good.
• 39:37
  And he talked about, you know, he shot an artist and Indian
• 39:42
  getting in there and, and making some noise in the opportunities.
• 39:46
  They've had. They've absolutely made noise.
• 39:48
  I mean, we've seen little, if no drop-off on those two, guys are
• 39:52
  on the field subbing Which is really good because dachshund
• 39:56
  tis do play, a tons of special teams play.
• 39:59
  So having two guys that you trust to just go out there and
• 40:03
  run your defense. I wish he would have mentioned a
• 40:08
  little more about Tomorrow, he's role as playing that nickel Mike
• 40:14
  or the nickel linebacker position because that has really
• 40:17
  helped us to defend significantly.
• 40:19
  Should be talked about more on how he's went to that, but he
• 40:22
  hasn't and again, we talked about it earlier and I think you
• 40:27
  said you were a little nervous about what a little nervous
• 40:30
  about Dean and Keyshawn. They've alleviated all worries
• 40:34
  that is probably the best death room.
• 40:37
  Maybe in the entire team is the linebacker room.
• 40:41
  Hi brownie, maybe Corner, maybe Corner would be the only other
• 40:44
  one. I feel like you can meet on, you
• 40:47
  know, five or six years ago. It's true then.
• 40:49
  Alright, the next thing I talked about was he was talking about,
• 40:55
  you know, he was giving the complimentary feel position,
• 40:57
  chili calling out Peter Moore and it is true, right?
• 41:02
  Ron the, for the back of team up, the more opportunities, it's
• 41:06
  the defense is going to attack, you're not on your heels, you're
• 41:09
  not thinking about In play and shoot, they can take it to the
• 41:12
  house. And again, we've we mentioned we
• 41:16
  continue to mention Peter More Steam and I know he's a punter,
• 41:18
  y'all, but their football players to in the way.
• 41:22
  We've had a play ball this year. He has been a weapon.
• 41:28
  And for the defense, I'm sure when they see all right, Pete's,
• 41:31
  gonna boot one, we're going, we're going to have them inside
• 41:33
  the 15 and if they make a boo-boo we're going to be able
• 41:37
  to force a turnover and be on the doorstep.
• 41:41
  Yeah, that's been the big thing. I know we've talked about it
• 41:44
  already, but Peter more, flipping the field for us,
• 41:49
  really, not really a known quantity in terms of what to
• 41:53
  expect from him this year, right?
• 41:55
  Well we really didn't know what to expect and he's really come
• 41:58
  out and answered all, the all the bells that have been kind of
• 42:01
  putting his way there, except for throwing a 25 yard pass to
• 42:08
  Dorian strong on the fake punt. That's about the only negative
• 42:13
  play he's and I think he's had maybe one other one punt the
• 42:16
  whole season that wasn't what like 40 + yd.
• 42:20
  So he's been bun. Mmm.
• 42:25
  And doing a good job just kind of you know controlling emotions
• 42:31
  and the heat of those moments. So kudos to him.
• 42:35
  Exactly. Alright then he sort of talked
• 42:38
  about this week just to self Scout a little bit.
• 42:43
  You know I like the way he talked about basically Carolina,
• 42:47
  they played with Reckless abandon For that being in the
• 42:52
  last three game, they have played a little more
• 42:56
  conservative, might have cost us.
• 42:57
  It was specifically talking about up front, right?
• 43:00
  Yafeng 7 right there at the defensive line and he was also
• 43:05
  kind of talking about how the other offensive has.
• 43:08
  He's not been able to go as Reckless, which is good, which
• 43:12
  tells me ham, understands, I can't can't.
• 43:16
  I cannot attack this type of offense.
• 43:19
  This is going to be. This isn't a slugfest, it's
• 43:22
  almost think of a boxer, right? You've got guys like Floyd
• 43:27
  Mayweather who can jab box, not going to knock you out, but
• 43:30
  going to win the fight. Yep.
• 43:33
  And then you've got guys like Tyson would knock you out.
• 43:36
  Then you kind of guys had guys there in the middle, you know,
• 43:39
  if you, if you think back you look way back.
• 43:42
  You think you like Sugar, Ray Robinson, who were just
• 43:45
  technical Fighters, but could lay the boom on you when they
• 43:48
  needed to? Yeah.
• 43:50
  So what I'm seeing from ham and I'll take that analogy.
• 43:53
  Is he knows. We can throw this at these guys.
• 43:59
  It's not going to hurt us. He knows I got to be careful
• 44:04
  these, this team can make a big play.
• 44:07
  So again, it just shows you sort of the the intelligence he has
• 44:12
  on defense knowing, you know, I can slug.
• 44:16
  I could jab on this team. If we get up 10, I can talk
• 44:19
  don't hate makers. Yeah, I think that's good.
• 44:23
  Kind of, knowing knowing where to dial up, you know, that
• 44:27
  aggressiveness and we talked about the line of Carolina and,
• 44:34
  you know, when you look at them, statistically it Makes sense.
• 44:37
  Why you throwing it out there because, you know, some of the
• 44:40
  grades on their running backs. Last year were through the roof,
• 44:44
  but the grades on their offensive line were consistently
• 44:48
  below. So their running backs were
• 44:51
  making the line look good. And they, I mean ham essentially
• 44:56
  made the wager that they'll be fine at running back, but
• 45:00
  they're not going to be what they were last year.
• 45:02
  We can take some chances and, you know, they might break one
• 45:05
  here, one there. There, we feel better about
• 45:07
  ourselves on the back end to make sure that doesn't turn into
• 45:10
  a big play. Let's get aggressive and try to
• 45:13
  force some of those tackles for loss and they did exactly.
• 45:17
  All right. Brian, he really went pretty
• 45:20
  deep into the DL defensive line talking about how it's been
• 45:25
  really key, how he's rotated, guys.
• 45:27
  He gave credit to, he gave credit to Monsters Inc.
• 45:34
  On the defensive line lesson, one of the players that in the
• 45:39
  pressures today you've got the big guy Jace.
• 45:42
  Do you got the little guy Bill, right?
• 45:45
  Yep. The Monsters Inc, defensive line
• 45:47
  coach is really keeping that rotation good.
• 45:49
  Keeping guys fresh. And then obviously, the
• 45:52
  questions came up about bar know, you know, we know bar no
• 45:55
  logged on the stat sheet last week.
• 45:58
  But you know what, did, what he had to say?
• 46:02
  What did you feel? Feel is going on with bar, no
• 46:06
  right now. So he talked about how they're
• 46:09
  running directly at him with the running game, a lot, and sliding
• 46:14
  protection to him in the passing game.
• 46:17
  So that's taken that's taking him out of some some of the
• 46:20
  plays but that's also meaning that other guys on that
• 46:24
  defensive line or having more one-on-one opportunities.
• 46:27
  So I mean overall you know you love having a guy that's filling
• 46:31
  up the stat sheet but you I would rather have that defensive
• 46:35
  line is a unit pulling pulling numbers.
• 46:37
  And as long as they keep doing what they are doing, I think we
• 46:41
  can keep it rolling. You know, would like to see him
• 46:44
  adjust a little bit more to kind of, what is being thrown at him,
• 46:48
  so he can kind of get back into the impact player level there,
• 46:53
  but it makes sense to see the drop-off based on how they're
• 46:56
  playing him. Now, I like that he seems to be
• 47:00
  adjusting a little bit. I like I said I think I
• 47:02
  mentioned in the Richmond recap, you know seeing him walk down,
• 47:07
  you know rushing. Play, you know, 15, 20 yards,
• 47:09
  downfield. So, you know, he still finding
• 47:12
  ways to even when he's blocked even when he's managed initially
• 47:15
  to still get in there and make a play.
• 47:18
  So, that's good to see. And the other thing Jam talked
• 47:22
  about on the defensive line is that cold Nelson is starting to
• 47:24
  come along. Yes, he is.
• 47:26
  And getting getting him in. There is going to be pretty big.
• 47:29
  I like the analogy used their High motor low-maintenance, the
• 47:37
  motor. He About like they have to talk
• 47:39
  about shutting him down and I told you you go back and
• 47:42
  reminisce and the stories from 2002, that it reminds you of a
• 47:46
  lot of what people said about tap.
• 47:48
  Yep. And in that build coming in.
• 47:52
  He's similarly, built to Darrell, unfortunately, he
• 47:56
  missed that one year of getting coach fine, but yeah, Cole
• 47:58
  Nelson is officially part of the defensive end rotation now.
• 48:03
  And then something else that maybe didn't shock, may be
• 48:05
  shocked. A lot of people, if you didn't
• 48:06
  hear, Wilfred Panay has been making noise.
• 48:10
  Well, from Pune is pushing for playing time and right?
• 48:15
  I think you mentioned back in the summer, you were like, well,
• 48:19
  with his body. It's a chance that he could take
• 48:22
  a big step. Yeah.
• 48:25
  And it's good to see him picking up things in a similar fashion
• 48:28
  to the speed. That that bar, no picked up
• 48:30
  things. Last offseason, you know,
• 48:33
  hopefully, we can start seeing you in the field probably in
• 48:36
  terms of size. As a little more aligned with
• 48:39
  the traditional size and speed of a defensive end, not quite
• 48:44
  the freak athlete of bar, no, but but definitely athletic and
• 48:48
  can make some plays there. So I'm looking forward to seeing
• 48:51
  what he can bring to the table now that we've kind of
• 48:53
  on-boarded him to that defensive end position.
• 48:56
  Absolutely. And Brian you mentioned about
• 48:57
  them running at bar know you would kind of think the guy
• 49:00
  who's been in that position it's going to hurt us now we're we
• 49:04
  have went almost 50 yards or less per A game rushing almost a
• 49:09
  full yard per attempt down last year, we were about at five this
• 49:13
  year about it for, so clearly them running at him.
• 49:16
  He's obviously holding up in that which is great to hear, not
• 49:20
  only for the defense in general, but for him in general because
• 49:23
  we know he has to pass rush skills.
• 49:26
  He starts showing where he is a good run Defender, the stocks
• 49:30
  going higher and higher with them.
• 49:32
  Well, I think the thing is like, you know, they are running at
• 49:34
  him which does neutralize him to a point but he's not The fact
• 49:39
  he's not getting blown out where it's creating craters in the
• 49:43
  defense at other levels. I think that definitely bodes,
• 49:46
  well, long term because it means that, you know, yes, he is, he's
• 49:49
  not necessarily being able to impact the play, but he's not
• 49:52
  getting taken out of the play where he's creating problems for
• 49:55
  other players on defense. Very true.
• 49:58
  All right, let's flip it over it.
• 49:59
  Let's talk about the corn presser and let's talk about the
• 50:04
  offensive line first for on your bed and butter.
• 50:06
  There he And we need more than five guys.
• 50:09
  Well, we had more than five guys.
• 50:12
  And then somehow We ran people away.
• 50:18
  Nestor obviously, starting to run.
• 50:20
  It West Virginia and Hudson significantly in the rotation in
• 50:25
  Louisville. Where, you know, if you have
• 50:26
  those guys, you don't have to talk about depth.
• 50:29
  You are deep if because you had Kate and take the step up, if
• 50:33
  Johnny transfer in, you're probably as deep as you were
• 50:36
  last year. Yeah.
• 50:37
  And I'm not sure if you have a Johnny transfer in if you have
• 50:40
  those other two guys that that's up in the air, but, you know,
• 50:43
  you're at least solid in your Verse 5 and have one swing guy.
• 50:47
  You can count on with Caden stepping into that other role
• 50:52
  probably still would be a little questionable at tackle, just
• 50:55
  because you'd probably end up having to have Nestor be kind of
• 50:59
  a guard tackle combo because we were going to be thin at tackle
• 51:03
  this year. Almost regardless, the question
• 51:07
  at this point is going to be, would Nestor playing a tackle,
• 51:10
  whether it be right or left have made this line a significant
• 51:14
  upgrade or would it Then on the similar level, that we've been
• 51:17
  at, I think you would have definitely been a little better.
• 51:20
  Yeah. Because thank, you know, even
• 51:23
  though he does occasionally struggle in past Pro, I think,
• 51:26
  you know, his his floor and passed Pros a lot higher than
• 51:29
  some of the others we've seen so far.
• 51:32
  And, you know, we know he's good in the run in the Run game so I
• 51:37
  would have liked to see what that could have been.
• 51:39
  But, you know, alas, it didn't work out that way.
• 51:43
  So, you know, we're dealing with this situation.
• 51:45
  Beijing where we've got brought kind of moving all over the
• 51:49
  line. The last couple weeks you played
• 51:53
  some right tackle against West Virginia played left guard,
• 51:57
  almost primarily against Richmond, hasn't had a great
• 52:02
  year so far, I think he definitely would like to place a
• 52:09
  lot more consistently than he's played this year.
• 52:12
  He's not playing at the level, he was playing.
• 52:15
  Last year and last year, he played at a pretty good level,
• 52:18
  but he cost us with, with the mental stuff.
• 52:21
  Yeah, that's intuitive. The mental is went away, but
• 52:24
  he's not, he's not impacting the game with his physicality in the
• 52:28
  same way. And that we need to find a
• 52:30
  balance with that, you know, I don't know if, if gearing down
• 52:34
  has caused his intensity to kind of go away in the between the
• 52:38
  whistles or what, but he's not playing at that same level, so
• 52:43
  it's very true now. Brad mentioned that they're
• 52:47
  looking at getting Silas back into the rotation, I'm assuming
• 52:50
  that's going to be Notre Dame, but then for Wednesday
• 52:53
  mentioned, he liked the starting five, there were out there on
• 52:57
  Saturday. I'm blending these two together.
• 53:01
  Brian. Do you think when we come out
• 53:03
  against Notre Dame? Do you think our line is lettuce
• 53:08
  myth? That left tackle Rockoff minute
• 53:11
  left guard, Johnny, its Center Silas Dan Z.
• 53:14
  At Right Guard, Luke 2 Nu du at right.
• 53:17
  Tackle with obviously came or getting some snaps and
• 53:22
  potentially maybe Tyrell Smith or maybe not Tyrell Smith
• 53:25
  getting some snaps. I think more than likely, they
• 53:30
  keep Lucy this Smith at left tackle, I think that is going to
• 53:35
  okay, give us the most consistently because it gives us
• 53:38
  our best overall lineman at the most important position, right?
• 53:44
  Yeah. Because even, even with tackles
• 53:48
  that are true, tackles that have a little bit more, little bit
• 53:51
  more speed getting out of the snap.
• 53:55
  He's not he's not any worse off than they are.
• 53:58
  And he's been much more consistent both in the past game
• 54:02
  and the Run game and the in terms of his protection that
• 54:05
  really, anybody else on the line, I would definitely keep
• 54:08
  his consistency at that left tackle position and then kind of
• 54:13
  fill in everywhere else, you know, Brock despite his kind of
• 54:17
  subpar play overall. Definitely gives us flexibility
• 54:20
  there because he can play across the entire interior of the line
• 54:25
  and slide out to tackle if absolutely necessary.
• 54:28
  Yeah. So, that gives you a little bit
• 54:30
  little options there. So, yeah, I would definitely
• 54:32
  keep Lucy. This myth out there at left
• 54:34
  tackle and then kind of figure out what other makeup of the
• 54:37
  line is kind of your best five, and hopefully have one or two
• 54:41
  guys in the hole that can kind of slide in when necessary or
• 54:45
  get you whether to give a breather or whether to jump in.
• 54:48
  If there's a Nick that's you know somebody has to come out of
• 54:50
  the game. Exactly.
• 54:53
  All right. Next thing we're going to live.
• 54:54
  He did make a few comments about Braxton.
• 54:57
  I want to hit on a couple of those Those brine.
• 54:59
  All right, first of all, he admitted completely.
• 55:02
  He is disappointed in how Braxton's played the first four
• 55:05
  games. You know, he did kind of admit.
• 55:09
  He has to look in the mirror himself on that too.
• 55:11
  He also admitted that there's still a chance for him to take a
• 55:15
  step and that step is definitely needed in the next coming, eight
• 55:18
  games because 23 points are not going to cut it, but he talked
• 55:22
  about his athleticism has helped them now, Brian you said
• 55:26
  something to me? Right?
• 55:29
  You're a little bit upset about well, yeah, he has this but
• 55:33
  Brad, you're not helping him. Yeah, I think that's that's the
• 55:38
  thing I'd like to see is that we need to make out the gate and I
• 55:43
  think this is what, what frustrates me the most is that
• 55:46
  we need to get Braxton comfortable out, the gate, and
• 55:50
  keep him comfortable in that second drive because we've had,
• 55:53
  we've seen him have success on an opening drive.
• 55:56
  I've seen him come out a little flat when he's had success.
• 56:01
  We haven't seen that coupled with a second drive that kind of
• 56:03
  gives him that confidence where he's really building a pain that
• 56:07
  I think at this point we need to be a little bit better with with
• 56:12
  the script and with how we how we get into our second drive and
• 56:16
  and make that a little more consistent get, you know, get up
• 56:19
  10 points, get up, 14 points, get to scores, you know, in the
• 56:24
  first quarter and start putting pressure, not only on the other
• 56:29
  team, but also give Braxton the confidence where that, you know,
• 56:32
  if they do come back and put some points on the board, he's
• 56:35
  ready to go out there and move the Ball down the field again.
• 56:38
  You know, some of its confidence I got playing with confidence is
• 56:42
  willing to take a little more calculated risk and some of that
• 56:45
  is what's needed right now as well.
• 56:48
  You know, pulling the trigger when guys are open but it's
• 56:51
  tight, pulling the trigger. When, you know, you may not be
• 56:56
  able to make the most accurate throw, but if a guy's wide-open,
• 57:01
  try to get it out there to him, I think we need to see a little
• 57:05
  bit more of that. That I don't want to see
• 57:07
  risk-taking necessarily in terms of putting the ball in danger
• 57:10
  but you know, he can sling the ball, he's got the capability,
• 57:15
  he's not going to drive it down field, you know 45 50 yards on a
• 57:19
  dime outside the numbers, but he can throw an accurate ball
• 57:23
  within that you know, that 30 40 yard range.
• 57:27
  You know, when he needs to and we need to let him rip it a
• 57:30
  little bit more and rip it with confidence.
• 57:33
  Because when he grips with confidence, it looks a lot
• 57:35
  better than He's out there and looks like he's really
• 57:37
  overthinking. What he's doing with the
• 57:39
  football. Well it looks a little profit
• 57:42
  explained with confidence. It's the UNC game especially
• 57:45
  first half when we start with see it's UVA last year's, its
• 57:50
  most of the Clemson game, I mean, it's weird when he's in
• 57:54
  his bag he looks, it looks okay, it's not great, but it looks, it
• 57:59
  looks good. You're fine with it.
• 58:00
  Well, the whole piece of it is, when he starts easy, think about
• 58:05
  the UNCA, Game, we started with some easy, swing passes, a
• 58:09
  couple easy, you know, relatively easy outside passes
• 58:13
  and the next thing you know, you talk about that 45-yard past the
• 58:17
  tree where he put on the money he felt good.
• 58:20
  He felt like I'm going to hit my passes when you put them in
• 58:24
  situations where your he's not like that.
• 58:27
  You can see it and it's in his body language and I'll tell you
• 58:29
  something else run when we were watching that interview Corns.
• 58:34
  Body language is not good. I got a feeling probably Sunday
• 58:39
  is Fuente was talking about asking question you think he got
• 58:42
  dressed down? I think there were definitely a
• 58:46
  lot of questions asked that he didn't necessarily have the
• 58:48
  right on the, on the, the right. Wavelength answer for corn
• 58:54
  definitely looked like he embedded been a long week for
• 58:58
  him so far and it was you know, Tuesday worse.
• 59:03
  So That's going to be interesting to see how that
• 59:06
  develops going forward to see if corn makes any sort of wholesale
• 59:11
  adjustments to get Braxton more comfortable or whether it's
• 59:15
  going to be kind of the same old.
• 59:17
  Same old, just repetition repetition and hope it.
• 59:21
  Hope it works out exactly. And I'm not discounting
• 59:24
  repetition. Repetition is important.
• 59:26
  If you don't wrap it, it's hard to get.
• 59:28
  But at some point, we're four weeks into the season.
• 59:34
  We should have seen it, click into place a little bit faster
• 59:37
  so I'm hoping that something changes that causes that click
• 59:40
  to happen. Well, it's got to be some now in
• 59:44
  all, in all honesty, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to,
• 59:46
  I'm going to wrap this segment with this statement by me and
• 59:49
  you looked at it and said, okay, the ownerships there, right?
• 59:52
  Yep. He, he, he said this, and it
• 59:56
  basically says, this means all of us have All of us kind of
• 1:00:01
  taking a good hard. Look in the mirror.
• 1:00:02
  Starting with me. Thank goodness.
• 1:00:04
  He said, starting with me because it is you because you
• 1:00:08
  are the offensive coordinator and just continue to find ways
• 1:00:11
  to continue to help each guy get better more consistent, which
• 1:00:14
  was a theme of the entire press conference.
• 1:00:16
  For most of the guys and finding the best way to put our guys in
• 1:00:19
  positions and have the chance to make plays.
• 1:00:24
  He's got to do it now. And the reality is, if
• 1:00:28
  everything goes right Or not everything goes, right?
• 1:00:33
  If if things are truly looked at hard this week, I do think we
• 1:00:38
  might not hear about it but there should be a change and
• 1:00:43
  whether that's going to be in the red zone, or something like
• 1:00:46
  that, you know? Got to make a choice there.
• 1:00:49
  Brian. Right.
• 1:00:51
  Okay. I know we're going to get into
• 1:00:54
  this a little bit more after the break here, but we are cozies
• 1:01:02
  Hey maybe one case had cozies a ton, but but you know, before we
• 1:01:09
  actually dive into it but before we dive into Brian's review of
• 1:01:12
  essentially, the foo foundations of offense, we are going to take
• 1:01:16
  a quick balls for a message from our digital Partners.
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  All right guys, as we mentioned at the top of the program, Brian
• 1:01:24
  did some deep dive analysis. On the Justin Fuente, offense
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  looking at TCU and his early days, in at the Memphis offense,
• 1:01:34
  and brown pointed out a niche and I started scratching it.
• 1:01:38
  Hey, I found something just, you know, just type something into
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  Google and things pop up, and it's like, oh, that's an hour
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  and then Brian types of up, that's an hour and 20 minutes
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  that's an hour. Next thing you know, bronze
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  hitting triple speed, trying to watch multiple videos.
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  So Brian, let's start here. We're going to take a look back
• 1:01:58
  at TCU from 2010 2010, was essentially, the making of who
• 1:02:04
  Justin Fuente was, and how he got here.
• 1:02:08
  Yeah. Well, Andy, Dalton, Jeremy
• 1:02:10
  Kerley, and absolute Stout Gary Patterson defense at TCU they go
• 1:02:16
  undefeated, they win the Rose Bowl beating Wisconsin who had
• 1:02:20
  JJ Watt amongst others on that defense that year and Brian you
• 1:02:26
  looked at the Air Force. Game in the Oregon State game,
• 1:02:31
  Oregon state that year was a pretty good team.
• 1:02:34
  They were ranked when they played them.
• 1:02:35
  So I'm going to kind of let you go and tell me what you saw on
• 1:02:41
  the tape. Yeah so I'll be I'll start this
• 1:02:44
  off. I know we mentioned a little bit
• 1:02:45
  earlier but this kind of came to fruition as a result of
• 1:02:50
  listening to the Jerrod Evans interview on Davi Fridays.
• 1:02:56
  That was kind of the Some of the comments made about the offense
• 1:03:00
  of Paxton Lynch relative to what Jerrod the keys that Gerard was
• 1:03:05
  given when he got to Virginia Tech and and the juxtaposition,
• 1:03:09
  there was kind of what got this thing rolling in my head would
• 1:03:12
  cause Curtis to start digging and then what caused me to spend
• 1:03:16
  several hours watching Tate. It's kind of the culmination of
• 1:03:21
  all that. So, yeah, that's good.
• 1:03:23
  I'm watching the tape but I I'm like, what are they doing?
• 1:03:29
  So, you know, Oregon state was, I think they open with Oregon
• 1:03:34
  state that year, they were, I think TCU was a top 10 team.
• 1:03:37
  Oregon. State was a top 25 team.
• 1:03:39
  Yep. When I was watching the game, I
• 1:03:41
  saw a bunch of previews for the Virginia Tech Boise, State game.
• 1:03:45
  So go ahead and, you know, cry the tears on that one real
• 1:03:49
  quick. But you know, so I watch those
• 1:03:53
  two games, not a ton of different things in those games.
• 1:03:57
  Um, they did have a good dose of speed option, so a little bit
• 1:04:01
  more run-heavy than we've seen in terms of the focal point of
• 1:04:05
  the offense, but the things that were different.
• 1:04:08
  The big thing is that they were under Center a lot, especially
• 1:04:12
  in short yardage plays, they ran a lot of play-action boots off.
• 1:04:15
  The off, the under Center looks there, they were in pistol, a
• 1:04:19
  lot, which we still incorporate at Virginia Tech and, you know,
• 1:04:25
  it kind of this is where it kind of started.
• 1:04:26
  So they ran Here they but they also ran obviously the inverted
• 1:04:30
  v r which was kind of a relatively New Concept at that
• 1:04:34
  time. They ran it with or without the
• 1:04:37
  jet motion. That's quick question.
• 1:04:42
  Veer explain because, you know, Because some people associate
• 1:04:48
  well I hear beer I think read-option there.
• 1:04:50
  It's different though, right? So the read option is
• 1:04:53
  essentially running back. Goes One Direction quarterback
• 1:04:57
  is reading and go in the other direction.
• 1:04:59
  If he decides to keep it with the Veer, you're essentially the
• 1:05:06
  running back of the quarterback or going the same direction,
• 1:05:08
  just the running back is going inside.
• 1:05:10
  The tackle, quarterbacks aiming point is outside the tackle and
• 1:05:13
  they're reading your both of them are reading the defense.
• 1:05:16
  Banner outside edge Defender but one is going.
• 1:05:21
  They're both going the same direction when they're going
• 1:05:23
  opposite direction. So that's kind of the
• 1:05:27
  difference. Their quarterback Powers did
• 1:05:30
  exist at TCU they were ran with Effectiveness, Andy Dalton, you
• 1:05:38
  know, isn't the Andy Dalton? We see today, he had a little
• 1:05:41
  bit more athleticism and is in his early 20s there.
• 1:05:44
  So, He was out there running running with good frequency and
• 1:05:50
  they were working a lot of the bubble screen and then running
• 1:05:52
  some variations off that were they would show up lock and then
• 1:05:55
  kind of Escape up the sideline either kind of a kind of a fade
• 1:06:02
  stop look or just kind of finding a soft spot in the zone
• 1:06:05
  there. Okay.
• 1:06:07
  Can I ask this Braun? We don't see here are the times
• 1:06:10
  we've seen in. It's been absolutely miserable
• 1:06:13
  failure. I think Ryan Willis in the bowl
• 1:06:14
  game against Cincinnati. when you go under Center in short,
• 1:06:18
  yardage, you know, some people say, you know, Why does it help
• 1:06:25
  so much? I always think you go under
• 1:06:28
  Center on short. Yardage a if it's third one and
• 1:06:31
  a half you're running back is getting a absolute full start
• 1:06:35
  right? We'll start line of scrimmage.
• 1:06:39
  Second they have to be wary of sneaks your third and one and a
• 1:06:43
  half. Well, if I can get the ball here
• 1:06:46
  and that Center can submarine. I can just find the hole and get
• 1:06:49
  into yours. So why aren't we incorporating
• 1:06:53
  that here? I mean, I think a guy like
• 1:06:55
  Jerrod Evans, I think it got like hitting.
• 1:06:58
  I mean, Quincy if your understanding those guys at one
• 1:07:01
  and a half or two yards, it's like the Playbook is so open
• 1:07:05
  because it sounds really dumb. Okay, takes time to teach
• 1:07:09
  quarterbacks at this level. How to take a snap, because no
• 1:07:13
  one's doing it at the high school level anymore, either.
• 1:07:17
  No one's taking the snap under Center.
• 1:07:19
  Very few, very few High School offenses that aren't triple
• 1:07:23
  option. Have guys, taking the ball in
• 1:07:25
  the center, which means the actual quarterbacks that sling,
• 1:07:28
  the ball and not just running backs playing quarterback.
• 1:07:30
  Have never taken an actual snap under center, right?
• 1:07:33
  So why would it take? It takes time to wrap and I'm
• 1:07:38
  guessing they just say, well it's not worth it, but I think
• 1:07:40
  it's absolutely worth it. Not only for their development,
• 1:07:44
  in terms of, you know, potential NFL careers.
• 1:07:47
  But just when you get the ball under Center, you're already
• 1:07:52
  you're half yard behind where the ball starting, instead of
• 1:07:56
  five yards behind where the ball starting, it's easier to push
• 1:08:01
  the pile. It's easier to find those gaps.
• 1:08:04
  You got your running back. That can kind of give you that
• 1:08:06
  push. You got your lime and that can
• 1:08:08
  get behind you and give you that push.
• 1:08:09
  Where, if you're trying to run that QB dive or QB power, and
• 1:08:15
  that short yardage play, It's a lot easier for the Lima to get
• 1:08:19
  penetration and make the quarterback have to kind of
• 1:08:21
  redirect his route there. We see that a lot.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, so I would prefer us doing a little bit more with that and,
• 1:08:29
  you know, I can talk a little bit more about Memphis here in a
• 1:08:31
  little bit because they do something similar.
• 1:08:34
  Alright, so something else you mentioned Braun is in the me
• 1:08:38
  kind of what we're missing this year or easy passes and you
• 1:08:43
  mentioned to me I think it was like on the third or fourth.
• 1:08:46
  Play of that Air Force game. We looked at your like their own
• 1:08:51
  double digs their own double digs on the sidelines.
• 1:08:56
  And essentially I think what was like a scene in one guy was
• 1:08:59
  running a Crosser. So, why are we seeing those
• 1:09:03
  digs? And that E-ZPass, I know you had
• 1:09:05
  to pushing it down the field, but at the corners playing 10
• 1:09:09
  yards off and you're on a 5-yard, dig.
• 1:09:11
  It's hit the third, step fire, it.
• 1:09:14
  Put it on the right shoulder. First, you got to make a tackle.
• 1:09:17
  Why are we seeing easy passes? Like that for Braxton?
• 1:09:20
  Yeah, we're not working levels of the defense, over the middle
• 1:09:24
  of the field at all. They did more of that at TCU and
• 1:09:30
  some of that at Office. So it seems like some of these,
• 1:09:35
  you know, middle middle of the field levels Concepts.
• 1:09:37
  It's kind of kind of went the way of the dinosaur slowly from
• 1:09:42
  2010 to. Now I'm not sure why I love a
• 1:09:45
  good dig. You know, whether you, whether
• 1:09:49
  you hear me on here or or see me on the timeline on Twitter, I am
• 1:09:53
  always saying put the damn dig in there. 15-yard dig should be
• 1:09:59
  a bread and butter route. It's so good because we're we
• 1:10:04
  have a decent offense where we can influence linebackers.
• 1:10:08
  If we don't throw the dig in there, we're just letting that
• 1:10:10
  space. Go to waste.
• 1:10:14
  And I know we run a lot of like, you know, post like slot post
• 1:10:19
  which kind of does something similar, but you can't work the
• 1:10:23
  Zone. The same way that you can with a
• 1:10:25
  dig where you're running all the way across the formation.
• 1:10:29
  So I'd like to see us be able to do that.
• 1:10:32
  All right? So obviously we're seeing
• 1:10:34
  elements that we have now still as part of his foundation back
• 1:10:38
  at TCU, some things aren't there, for whatever reason, we
• 1:10:42
  don't know that. But let's go to the Memphis
• 1:10:45
  years again. Don't lock the TCU years. 43
• 1:10:49
  points, he averaged over, the team was averaging over 40 down
• 1:10:52
  in Memphis when corn and Dicky. Where The Coho sees as for
• 1:10:57
  Wednesday was a CO C at TCU, Jerry Henderson with Jared
• 1:11:02
  Anderson, who was? I told you, when you said that,
• 1:11:06
  I look back, Back Anderson had been on the staff at TCU 15
• 1:11:09
  years give or take. Yep, while Dickey had been in
• 1:11:15
  football close to 25 when he joined that staff.
• 1:11:19
  At Memphis. So what you were pairing is you
• 1:11:22
  repairing Young guys with very experienced, guys.
• 1:11:28
  New school philosophy with experienced, guys, that can kind
• 1:11:34
  of point out maybe blind spots in these newer, newer systems.
• 1:11:39
  Right? Exactly.
• 1:11:41
  Alright, let's jump into it. Let's get into.
• 1:11:43
  Memphis, you looked at the Houston, the Ole Miss game, the
• 1:11:46
  Ole Miss upset that Justin Fuente went from being a rising
• 1:11:50
  stars. The o.c. and its first couple
• 1:11:52
  years of Memphis, he knocks off the Hugh.
• 1:11:54
  Freeze He's team a top 15 team at that point in time.
• 1:11:57
  What did you see from that game and the Houston game?
• 1:12:01
  So similar to TCU, we actually saw Paxton Lynch under Center,
• 1:12:07
  not a great deal, but in in certain scenarios, so in if they
• 1:12:13
  decided they wanted to pound the ball between the tackles, okay?
• 1:12:17
  We go under Center and just hand the ball off downhill.
• 1:12:22
  If they were in the red zone and needed a couple yards, they
• 1:12:26
  would get under Center going. Downhill, run Paxton Lynch hand
• 1:12:30
  it off to there. Running back running downhill
• 1:12:34
  quarterback Powers. We're still employed in that
• 1:12:37
  offense. So I mean the QB power is not
• 1:12:39
  going away. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a
• 1:12:41
  consistent element of that run game.
• 1:12:43
  It is a staple of the Valente offense.
• 1:12:46
  Yep. So when they were running the
• 1:12:49
  read option, it was a lot more inside Zone and kind of power
• 1:12:53
  versus the outside Zone that we are accustomed to.
• 1:12:58
  Okay. They ran probably more Veer and
• 1:13:03
  inverted v r with or without jet motion.
• 1:13:06
  Even than TCU. I think TC you really went full
• 1:13:10
  inverted. V r.
• 1:13:11
  I think towards the end of that 2010 season, especially in the
• 1:13:15
  bowl game, I think it's one that really had the big coming-out
• 1:13:17
  party so we were starting to see more of it at at Memphis there
• 1:13:25
  and still a lot of bubble and tunnel screens and variations
• 1:13:29
  off of that. Probably more more more tunnels
• 1:13:34
  screens than we run probably less bubble screens than we run.
• 1:13:38
  Okay? But the thing that like I saw
• 1:13:44
  more of than I've been used to recently as we they ran a lot
• 1:13:48
  more Slants to the slot receiver and they actually targeted that
• 1:13:51
  in the offense consistently whereas I feel like we go away
• 1:13:54
  from that in those because that could be a bread-and-butter
• 1:13:57
  route for us when we need to move the sticks and I feel like
• 1:13:59
  we go away from it for so long. And eventually we get back to it
• 1:14:03
  and it has some success for us but we don't stick with that
• 1:14:06
  concept. What what what it?
• 1:14:10
  Is the broken ask this? Isn't that a manipulation play
• 1:14:14
  like running a 43-yard slant, consistently bread and butter
• 1:14:18
  and it eventually aren't you going to eventually the mic or
• 1:14:22
  the back or whichever side of the field?
• 1:14:23
  You're running to eventually. If they see that predicament,
• 1:14:28
  okay, they ran this three times. I'm getting out of my lane and
• 1:14:33
  I'm going to try to stop it and thus if that happens, if they
• 1:14:38
  take that step out of the lane you.
• 1:14:40
  Throw you run something like a draw.
• 1:14:42
  Well, he's off balance, he's out of position.
• 1:14:45
  We're about to have a nice little spread open here.
• 1:14:48
  We'll remember, I forget if I remember correctly.
• 1:14:51
  I think it was the, the big play to Trey against Middle Tennessee
• 1:14:54
  State. Where they jumped, what, what
• 1:14:59
  looked like was that kind of like a square in and then trade
• 1:15:04
  took in a field and got the big gay.
• 1:15:06
  The one that was underthrown slightly.
• 1:15:08
  Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I mean that's a similar
• 1:15:13
  type of concept that you're talking about there where we had
• 1:15:16
  ran a couple plays where they were starting to key on what
• 1:15:19
  we're doing and we hit them with something that kind of got them
• 1:15:21
  out of position. Still busted coverage, safety
• 1:15:24
  didn't realize what the what the backer was doing and the backer,
• 1:15:31
  you know, just went in place there.
• 1:15:34
  Now, in terms of what they do in the passing game, they still
• 1:15:37
  they didn't run that they ran more slams than we did.
• 1:15:39
  But they also I did a little different things outside the
• 1:15:43
  numbers. Okay.
• 1:15:45
  So instead of just running the true Fades, they ran a lot of
• 1:15:49
  like Faith stops, and a lot of like kind of back shoulder laser
• 1:15:54
  throws. And so that that's a little bit
• 1:15:58
  of a different different concept than what we are seeing where
• 1:16:03
  we're, when we take the shots, they are more straight Fades,
• 1:16:07
  right? And I don't know if that's a
• 1:16:10
  Personnel decision or if that's a scheme decision but we're not
• 1:16:15
  seeing some of those kind of Fate stops.
• 1:16:18
  And back shoulder throws that were kind of Hallmarks of the
• 1:16:22
  Memphis offense. All right, and it in obviously,
• 1:16:28
  Dicky and corn coatsy's there. So again, we're seeing a lot of,
• 1:16:34
  we're seeing a lot of similar elements, but we're also seeing
• 1:16:37
  things that we don't see as much anymore.
• 1:16:39
  Brian, as you start analyzing this, you know, from what you
• 1:16:45
  saw from really 10 years ago and roughly 45 years ago.
• 1:16:49
  Excuse me, six years ago, I get that, right.
• 1:16:52
  What are you saying? These are what you need to start
• 1:16:55
  taking these elements and you need to put them here.
• 1:16:58
  Not only with the quarterback we have, but the offensive
• 1:17:01
  Personnel how we play defense and the wide receiver in the
• 1:17:06
  weapons. What do you want to see them
• 1:17:07
  bring to Virginia, Tech from what you see on the table, more
• 1:17:13
  kind of middle middle routes. So middle of the defense middle
• 1:17:17
  depth, you know, starting with those 15-yard dig starting with
• 1:17:23
  with more consistent. Slants from the slot position,
• 1:17:28
  more cross-country kind of crossers.
• 1:17:30
  I like to see see more of that. And we can work that off play
• 1:17:33
  action, where you get a little bit more time there so those can
• 1:17:36
  kind of develop, right. But a lot of this comes down to,
• 1:17:41
  you know, we've said it play sequencing and execution over
• 1:17:45
  all. Those are, those are still the
• 1:17:46
  areas that when I watch those tapes.
• 1:17:49
  Memphis and TCU looked more crisp running these plays than
• 1:17:53
  we look consistently. Can I ask this?
• 1:17:57
  You watch this offense for five years here, right?
• 1:18:00
  Yep. And you just watched four games.
• 1:18:03
  Probably close to. I'm gonna guess close to 250
• 1:18:06
  snaps. Correct.
• 1:18:08
  Give or take snaps. Yeah.
• 1:18:10
  Was there ever a time when you're sitting there watching it
• 1:18:14
  last couple days where you said they're going to do this was
• 1:18:19
  there any time in point you were able to key and say they're
• 1:18:22
  going to do this. I mean I could see a Jet Sweep
• 1:18:25
  coming a mile away but he was it was a little more you know we
• 1:18:30
  sometimes Telegraph what we're doing in our priest at motion
• 1:18:33
  but then we work variations off that to make to take that to
• 1:18:37
  take that away, take that anticipation away.
• 1:18:41
  So I think that's why it's a little bit little bit hard
• 1:18:45
  sometimes when we start games because we start games with,
• 1:18:49
  we're showing you what we're showing you what to expect.
• 1:18:53
  We'll see if you key on it and then we'll then we'll give you a
• 1:18:55
  variation of it. All right?
• 1:18:59
  All right. I don't necessarily like that
• 1:19:00
  approach because I'd like to see us sometimes come out and hit
• 1:19:03
  them with something they haven't seen okay and not you know save
• 1:19:08
  our load for when we get behind No, hit them.
• 1:19:14
  Yeah, I'd like to see the variations and then, you know,
• 1:19:22
  get them to start thinking then we can get back to our bread and
• 1:19:24
  butters with the Jet Sweep that you know, are more telegraphed.
• 1:19:29
  All right, on Brian. Do you feel like there's
• 1:19:32
  anything with those teams that they had that we're missing?
• 1:19:37
  We've had this this type of player before but we don't
• 1:19:42
  necessarily have an established version of it now and that's
• 1:19:45
  kind of that Swiss army knife h-back like Sam Rogers, our
• 1:19:49
  Dalton Keen Drake and Nick I think are doing the best they
• 1:19:54
  can but I don't think they're quite where they need to be to
• 1:19:57
  run that position. Consistently and, you know, we
• 1:20:01
  were using James Mitchell has kind of both a past catching
• 1:20:04
  tight in and a Swiss Army knife Because of how well he could
• 1:20:08
  Block in space and not having him.
• 1:20:11
  His definitely started to hurt this offense.
• 1:20:14
  You know, say what you will about us having decent depth at
• 1:20:18
  the position. Some of the things he was doing
• 1:20:21
  is hard to replace and they didn't always show up on the
• 1:20:22
  stat sheet. All right, all right.
• 1:20:26
  What about Braxton? What's the difference between
• 1:20:28
  him? And I mean, I'm not going to say
• 1:20:30
  what's the difference between an Andy Dalton, Andy Dalton was a
• 1:20:33
  starter for ten years, went to five, you know, took the
• 1:20:37
  Cincinnati Bengals to five playoff games as many people
• 1:20:40
  that trash Andy, Dalton he took the Bangles two playoff games.
• 1:20:45
  I think that's more than Boomer. I think that's more than Carson
• 1:20:48
  and then, obviously Paxton was one of those guys to me.
• 1:20:51
  Thanks and have a lot of talent packs and went to the worst
• 1:20:54
  place he could go. And follow you and iconic
• 1:20:59
  quarterback. He wasn't like you know, you
• 1:21:01
  were you were step if he to follow Tebow you might have just
• 1:21:04
  gave him a little bit more time to kind of.
• 1:21:07
  Yeah attentively come into his own but when you're when you're
• 1:21:11
  following a legend and when you're in a situation where if
• 1:21:15
  you don't win now their consequences and there was yeah
• 1:21:20
  and he's pretty much gone from the league now.
• 1:21:23
  But what's the difference? What's the difference between
• 1:21:26
  Burmeister and those two guys where, you know, maybe the maybe
• 1:21:30
  the plays are in the Playbook, And we're just not seeing them
• 1:21:33
  because a Braxton, like I said some of its sequencing but a lot
• 1:21:37
  of it is really just the command of the offense that they have
• 1:21:42
  they they were comfortable and some of that's from experience.
• 1:21:46
  But I mean at this point Braxton has been in this offense going
• 1:21:51
  on three years now, through you got, you got to be comfortable
• 1:21:55
  in this offense at this point if you're going to be the starter.
• 1:21:58
  But just overall command and Lynch and Dalton.
• 1:22:02
  Could make those you know we talk about the Fades versus kind
• 1:22:08
  of those those back shoulders and those Faith stops.
• 1:22:11
  You've got to be able to put some arm behind those type of
• 1:22:15
  throws because they're they're not Loft it up in the air where
• 1:22:19
  your guy goes up and gets it. They have to be in a spot on
• 1:22:23
  time or it could potentially be a pick.
• 1:22:28
  Some of the some of that you can't necessarily put in the
• 1:22:30
  offense, unless you've got a quarterback that has that type
• 1:22:33
  of arm and I think that's what's missing and then some of the
• 1:22:37
  just calculated risk and I think that comes with the confidence
• 1:22:40
  because if you're confident in the throes you're making, where
• 1:22:44
  your receivers are and your own arm, you know, you'll
• 1:22:49
  occasionally, take a little bit of a calculated risk and squeeze
• 1:22:52
  one in there. I saw packs and against Houston,
• 1:22:55
  throw it between two Defenders on a On a corner route that you
• 1:23:00
  know, it was tight coverage but there was a window and he got it
• 1:23:03
  in there and sometimes you got to make those throws. all right,
• 1:23:08
  so what I'm kind of hearing even though he's been in the system
• 1:23:12
  for years, he's only played technically Seven games now.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, he games a game. Excuse me, he was he was three
• 1:23:22
  in one last year so you know, where Dalton and Paxton.
• 1:23:28
  Basically, by the time they got to some of those years we're
• 1:23:30
  looking at they've been in the system two and three years and
• 1:23:33
  not just in the system, but they were at 20 plus games.
• 1:23:37
  And I'm going to say this goes back to fool and corn in
• 1:23:41
  general, Every year it's a new quarterback, every years
• 1:23:45
  multiple, quarterbacks you need to find a guy and you got you.
• 1:23:50
  They've recruited several very talented guys but it's always as
• 1:23:54
  well. Can't do it quite yet.
• 1:23:57
  Who was it? We talked to Brian.
• 1:24:00
  That said the year Ryan Willis, when Ryan Willis, when Josh
• 1:24:05
  Jackson went down, they should have said screw Ryan.
• 1:24:07
  Well, let's play handed screw it.
• 1:24:10
  It's not going to be a good season anyway.
• 1:24:12
  Get him to all the game reps you can because hendon's a type of
• 1:24:15
  guy that do it. So, and whoever it was and I
• 1:24:19
  don't remember who it was. I'm sorry, I'm old.
• 1:24:22
  Um, so is that a key? If that's a key, the offense.
• 1:24:26
  Great. Then from day one after Jerrod
• 1:24:29
  of In Josh Jackson your quarterback second you I don't
• 1:24:33
  care what Ron or you do it the opposite way, I don't care what
• 1:24:36
  Ron Williams does. Josh is your quarterback.
• 1:24:38
  Yeah, go back and look at the numbers from 2013 and 2014 and
• 1:24:46
  2015 with Paxton Lynch you'll see ratcheting it up very
• 1:24:51
  steady, uptick in terms of yardage in terms of efficiency
• 1:24:56
  and turns of touchdown to interception ratio.
• 1:24:59
  I mean, Everything improved with time but you can't create
• 1:25:05
  scenarios where you don't have consistencies at that position
• 1:25:09
  and you know some of this is you know, just bad luck and some of
• 1:25:14
  this is creating scenarios were quarterbacks don't want to
• 1:25:17
  continue playing here. For one reason or another and
• 1:25:22
  that's so good. Maybe you got to take some
• 1:25:25
  ownership of that. I mean, yes.
• 1:25:26
  You know, you've had some bad luck, thrown your way you go.
• 1:25:29
  There were choices made that didn't work in your favor, but
• 1:25:33
  at the same time, you got to play with the guys.
• 1:25:35
  You got in. Try to maintain the talent that
• 1:25:37
  you do have and develop that Talent, true.
• 1:25:41
  Very true can only develop that Talent if you keep guys in the
• 1:25:44
  building and get them reps in the game.
• 1:25:47
  Abso-freakin'-lutely. All right man kudos to Brian for
• 1:25:54
  diving into this because you know I thought about it and
• 1:25:57
  found tape and sometimes when you give a football junkie tape
• 1:26:01
  it's like it's like giving an attic something like that.
• 1:26:10
  We are going to do it again. You boys 500 or better?
• 1:26:16
  We're rolling. We're going to look at the ACC
• 1:26:19
  seven games and then we're going to look at three out of
• 1:26:21
  converges, braless start tomorrow night, I will probably
• 1:26:25
  be tuned into this as will you as UVA goes down to Miami to
• 1:26:29
  play Miami. Miami is a five and a half Point
• 1:26:33
  favorite since you are leading, you get the honor sir Miami
• 1:26:39
  legal limit UVA. But awful on defense.
• 1:26:45
  Holy crap. Did you watch some of that game
• 1:26:47
  against wait? Oh some of the tape where I'd
• 1:26:51
  like the defensive lineman like did a push got show.
• 1:26:53
  It 100 this wasn't late in the game.
• 1:26:56
  They know one was fatigued defensive lineman playing
• 1:27:01
  playing titty pet with the offensive linemen and then you
• 1:27:05
  got the secondary just like all right well the ball is in the
• 1:27:07
  air. I'm going to watch it for a bit
• 1:27:09
  here. It's going to float into the end
• 1:27:11
  zone. Shit.
• 1:27:13
  It's in the end zone. So basically for kind of the
• 1:27:15
  game surrender Cobra. Yeah, right after where yeah,
• 1:27:20
  I'm with you Miami legal limit. Miami wins by 1440 228.
• 1:27:27
  All right. Good do u qn c.
• 1:27:31
  Ha ha. Um, again is a nineteen and a
• 1:27:38
  half Point favorite We talked about it.
• 1:27:41
  A few weeks ago, UNC is going to struggle with anyone who has a
• 1:27:45
  good defense Duke, does not have a good defense.
• 1:27:49
  If they get me again, they get me again.
• 1:27:53
  Um, see wins by 21. They cover the 19, to half 4927.
• 1:28:03
  I'm gonna go UNC as well, because Number one, it's Duke
• 1:28:11
  number to UNC if they don't do something.
• 1:28:14
  Then I mean, I know we're picking against the spread here
• 1:28:17
  and not outright winner, but in UNC need some style points at
• 1:28:21
  this point, right? What else?
• 1:28:23
  This is a good opportunity to get some style points against an
• 1:28:25
  in-state rival. Go and beat the fucking Blue
• 1:28:29
  Devils. If you don't beat them by 19
• 1:28:31
  points, I'm not sure whether you got a pulse at this point.
• 1:28:35
  Well, if they don't meet about 19 plus Point same house coming
• 1:28:37
  back next year. Which is going to screw up their
• 1:28:40
  quarterback of the future type thing because the way they've
• 1:28:43
  recruited. I, Brian, you get to lead with
• 1:28:46
  this one. Hey, Georgia Tech pit hit is a
• 1:28:50
  three and a half Point favorite. Well, I got a pic.
• 1:28:52
  I got to pick Georgia Tech against Kenny Pickett.
• 1:28:56
  This is like, my nightmare scenario.
• 1:28:58
  Worst, why are you making me do? This is I had to pick Duke.
• 1:29:06
  Yeah. I can't believe I'm doing this.
• 1:29:12
  Give me Kenny Pickett. The Kenny Pickett pits,
• 1:29:18
  anything. It pits.
• 1:29:19
  I'm seriously trying to figure out how this game is three and a
• 1:29:22
  half. I feel like the Vegas in Vegas,
• 1:29:27
  builds the casinos, and they're building more and now they're
• 1:29:30
  getting online sports book and having that house somewhere.
• 1:29:33
  So they're building more casinos.
• 1:29:36
  I can't see how this is a three and a half point game for Pitt
• 1:29:41
  this, even though they lost to Western Michigan.
• 1:29:44
  Their offense, most of the year has been productive in every
• 1:29:49
  game they played Georgia Tech's defense played okay against UNC,
• 1:29:56
  they still gave up almost 30 points.
• 1:30:00
  Georgia Tech's offense has been the roller coaster ride.
• 1:30:03
  That you don't miss the big bad wolf.
• 1:30:06
  She had hurt you because you don't know what they're going to
• 1:30:08
  do. I don't know how they're getting
• 1:30:10
  three and a half Point here. This line smells very fishy.
• 1:30:13
  I'm with you give me pit All right.
• 1:30:18
  Brian. You get to leave the next one
• 1:30:20
  man. I get to lead the next one.
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  I'm a little bit confused by this.
• 1:30:23
  So Wake Forest coming off a pretty big win over.
• 1:30:28
  UVA plays Louisville. Louisville, who, you know?
• 1:30:36
  You know, one last week against Florida state only one by eight
• 1:30:40
  points. And I mean that game, you know,
• 1:30:43
  they scored 31 first half points and then didn't score anything
• 1:30:47
  after that, you know, Louisville's three.
• 1:30:50
  And one there wins obviously Ole Miss gave up 43 points Eastern
• 1:30:56
  Kentucky. You know, when I can count that
• 1:30:59
  one, you see ya. And against a putrid, FSU team
• 1:31:04
  gave up 23. Let's see, wakes often, I don't
• 1:31:08
  see how this is a seven-point game.
• 1:31:10
  I think weight wins by 10. I think way twin somewhere in
• 1:31:13
  the neighborhood of like 3828 just because you look evil
• 1:31:18
  hasn't stopped anyone they played this year.
• 1:31:22
  Yeah we give me wake. I'm taking weight because I'm
• 1:31:26
  taking I'm almost taking week to to be the team coming out of the
• 1:31:31
  Atlantic if they can, if they can get Everything they keep it
• 1:31:38
  steady. Because right now, I think they
• 1:31:39
  have a good balance of Defense passing game rushing attack.
• 1:31:45
  They're always well coach, they're always sought on special
• 1:31:48
  teams. I just think they're they're
• 1:31:52
  that classic. You know, just well structured
• 1:31:57
  team that if they get one or two things, go their way in every
• 1:32:03
  game, they can pull it out against anybody.
• 1:32:05
  So I'll take wake here in the and lay the seven.
• 1:32:11
  I like Louisville has kind of shown a pulse the last couple
• 1:32:15
  weeks but I feel like wakes just more more well-rounded team and
• 1:32:20
  is going to handle them. Wake is a crisp, executing
• 1:32:23
  machine on offense right now and just to verify Steady.
• 1:32:26
  As You Go defense? Yep, all right.
• 1:32:30
  Let's figure this one out Brian as you lead, Syracuse plays FSU
• 1:32:34
  FSU has not won a game. As I mentioned Louisville scored
• 1:32:39
  31 on them in the first half last week.
• 1:32:42
  So the game was over, they fought and got the 23 fsu's, a
• 1:32:48
  four and a half Point favorite. And I mean, I know Braun that
• 1:32:52
  this game this week. you know, is at is at Florida State, but
• 1:33:01
  if you saw the look of the crowd there last week, it's not the
• 1:33:04
  Florida state of old. It's like 60% capacity.
• 1:33:08
  They reach full apathy. Oh they are apathetic.
• 1:33:12
  Yeah, let's talk real quick about, you know, if we had to
• 1:33:15
  roll the dice on the Memphis coach, we at least got the
• 1:33:18
  better of the two. Oh, are you sure it was, he just
• 1:33:23
  in a no-win situation down there.
• 1:33:26
  You know what? I don't care about.
• 1:33:28
  No win situation. Man, you're over.
• 1:33:30
  We were if we were pulling the, the stat classes that they did
• 1:33:34
  here, and we're winning like that went.
• 1:33:37
  A would have been gone two years ago, true.
• 1:33:40
  Very true. Very true.
• 1:33:42
  So Braun. Are you taking them?
• 1:33:48
  Hell no. Give me cues.
• 1:33:52
  I'm right with you. I don't care if Syracuse is
• 1:33:55
  coming off, a very big win in the dome last week.
• 1:33:58
  Syracuse to me is just to well-rounded.
• 1:34:02
  This is another one of those smelly, smelly lines because I
• 1:34:05
  think people are going to, they're doing that to say, well,
• 1:34:09
  people are going to see Florida State and just lay it because of
• 1:34:12
  Syracuse this line was week. One or two.
• 1:34:14
  I think you could have seen people jump all over FSU here,
• 1:34:20
  especially the way they competed wire-to-wire with Notre.
• 1:34:23
  Dame very true, but that's really just having seen the last
• 1:34:27
  three weeks, you know, juries out here.
• 1:34:31
  He's out, completely thickness, wins closer than enough enough
• 1:34:38
  to for getting four and a half. As a Road Dogg enough to cover.
• 1:34:43
  I mean, I think he's wins out, right?
• 1:34:44
  So yeah, me too, man. All right, here we go.
• 1:34:48
  Braun NC State off the huge. He's upset of Clemson.
• 1:34:52
  Last week in Raleigh gets Louisiana Tech this week, NC
• 1:34:55
  State's Elaine, 20 and a half on.
• 1:34:57
  Make this one short and sweet. It's a hangover game for them,
• 1:35:00
  they're going to win. They're not going to win by more
• 1:35:02
  than three touchdowns against Claudette.
• 1:35:07
  You know what? I'm gonna go against you here.
• 1:35:09
  Finally have a pivot point here. I see NC State.
• 1:35:15
  I think you know you say hangover I say Clemson is the
• 1:35:20
  game that kind of refocuses them and say we still got something
• 1:35:23
  to play for here. It's true.
• 1:35:25
  So they so they come in focused and ready to ready to go.
• 1:35:28
  I think they take care of business.
• 1:35:31
  All right, Brian. We finally decide to decipher
• 1:35:33
  their. All right, man.
• 1:35:35
  Well, let's go talk about Clemson this week.
• 1:35:38
  They get BC coming into town, 15 and a half Point.
• 1:35:45
  Favorites are the Clemson Tigers in Death Valley.
• 1:35:48
  It is going to be a night game that is going to be on the ACC
• 1:35:51
  Network. Over under forty six and a half.
• 1:35:56
  Brian, what are you thinking on this one?
• 1:36:00
  Give me the under. Okay, we BC in this line would
• 1:36:07
  have been again some of these lines the I guess a lot of this
• 1:36:13
  is like playing on History because I mean, right now,
• 1:36:17
  nothing is told me that Clemson can beat any power 5, team by
• 1:36:21
  15, a half points. So I'm going to think that a
• 1:36:27
  pretty good BC team even without their starting quarterback.
• 1:36:30
  They've shown, they can pivot their offensive style leaving
• 1:36:33
  their power running game. They've got a solid defense,
• 1:36:36
  it's better. It's improved from last year.
• 1:36:38
  It's not giving up some of the big caching runs two
• 1:36:40
  quarterbacks like it was last year.
• 1:36:44
  So I'll take BC, I can probably tell you why, I think you're
• 1:36:47
  going to go the other way, though.
• 1:36:49
  Well, I'm going the other way. Why am I going the other way?
• 1:36:52
  You're going the other way? Because it's a fucking put up or
• 1:36:54
  shut up week for Clemson after that loss to NC State.
• 1:36:58
  Anytime Dabo gets into those put up or shut up games.
• 1:37:01
  His team's come out and respond. I also think it's Dennis grow
• 1:37:05
  cells. Essentially, this is going to be
• 1:37:07
  his third game on tape, and I think Brent venables is going to
• 1:37:11
  have him pretty much eaten alive.
• 1:37:13
  I take the under two and I think Clemson wins something like 20.
• 1:37:19
  It's That will be much. It's barely going to cover some
• 1:37:21
  like 24/7 maybe 31, maybe 3124 shooting 3110 but I don't think
• 1:37:29
  this is all going to be seized getting to 14 points.
• 1:37:32
  So, I'm going to take Clemson on this one.
• 1:37:35
  Alright, alright, that wraps the ACC.
• 1:37:37
  Let's go out of conference. Brian three.
• 1:37:40
  Pretty big games in several different conferences.
• 1:37:44
  Let's start in the SEC. Alabama, Ole Miss old.
• 1:37:50
  Lane kiffin, Nick Saban. As every Alabama game is from
• 1:37:56
  the month of after SEC play starts.
• 1:37:59
  Its on CBS at 3:30. Not shop.
• 1:38:04
  Bama ready for this one? Yep.
• 1:38:07
  Bama laying 14 and a half over under seventy nine and a half.
• 1:38:13
  Yeah, I'm trying to wonder what they know here is.
• 1:38:18
  You know, I think bam has a really good team, but I think
• 1:38:21
  Ole Miss keeps it closed through the duration.
• 1:38:23
  I think it's like a 10 10 point 10 point win for for Bama there.
• 1:38:28
  So give me Ole Miss. I know Mike will bond.
• 1:38:32
  It doesn't like me doing that. You think that lane kiffin is a
• 1:38:36
  clown? But I will say that he might be
• 1:38:40
  a clown, but when he is focused on a goal, he does a pretty good
• 1:38:44
  job of keeping his team's competitive even against.
• 1:38:48
  ADI competition, so I'll go with Ole Miss here.
• 1:38:54
  I'm gonna go with Ole Miss to. So we're back to agree and
• 1:38:57
  again, and I think it's super close and I think it's super
• 1:39:01
  close enough. That if you wanted to throw a
• 1:39:03
  few bucks on the money line, because I think the money line
• 1:39:05
  is going to be so favorable for Ole Miss.
• 1:39:07
  I think they can get them. I think Ole Miss, I think Lane
• 1:39:12
  can out tour Bryce young without without the receivers.
• 1:39:17
  The over is 17. And this game went to like, 112
• 1:39:22
  last year. 111. Excuse me, 63 48 was the final
• 1:39:28
  Alabama and then the previous year same way.
• 1:39:32
  It went pretty high with Lane. I mean kiffin knows how to
• 1:39:38
  expose the biggest defense has now.
• 1:39:41
  The question is going to be his is kiffin.
• 1:39:43
  If he keeps continuing to do well here, does the place that
• 1:39:48
  left them on tarmac? Give them another call.
• 1:39:52
  Or does he say, you know what? Forget that I don't feel like
• 1:39:55
  being left out in the cold again but Ole Miss definitely covers.
• 1:40:00
  Think about the money line. If you're getting good odds I
• 1:40:03
  think almost could pull the pig upset here in Tuscaloosa.
• 1:40:07
  All right. Brian next one, let's go out to
• 1:40:11
  the Big 12 and throw a little off here because we hadn't
• 1:40:16
  really done much, Big 12, exception of West, Junior or
• 1:40:18
  Oklahoma, but Baylor and Oklahoma State Eight both 4 & 0,
• 1:40:23
  both ranked in the top 25, Baylor with the big upset win
• 1:40:27
  last week at Iowa State. Oklahoma State, big upset win
• 1:40:32
  over Kansas State. So both are coming in off two
• 1:40:36
  big wins. Oklahoma state with the Boise
• 1:40:41
  State wind going up there at a night game winning.
• 1:40:44
  And you know, other than the our state, this is kind of the
• 1:40:49
  second big test for Baylor. This is going to be in
• 1:40:53
  Stillwater with a night kick. And as much as I love Dave,
• 1:40:57
  Aranda, he's a hell of a defensive coordinator.
• 1:41:00
  I think Gundy gets this one. And I'll lay the three and a
• 1:41:05
  half points. Give me Okie State.
• 1:41:09
  You know what? I'm right there with you.
• 1:41:13
  I think Baylor's going to have a little bit of a hangover from a
• 1:41:17
  big win, you're playing in a tough environment and I think
• 1:41:22
  going to get is going to get those guys ready to go.
• 1:41:24
  So I'll take Okie State there. We're agreeing on that one.
• 1:41:29
  All right. To me, this is the biggest game
• 1:41:32
  of the weekend. I'm not sure if ESPN Gameday,
• 1:41:35
  actually. Where is game day going to be
• 1:41:36
  this week? Mom, you look that up real
• 1:41:38
  quick. Great question because there's
• 1:41:41
  three big games. We're not we're not picking the
• 1:41:43
  Arkansas Georgia game. I didn't want to do Jewel SEC
• 1:41:49
  because that's a big game. Sam Pittman returning to Georgia
• 1:41:52
  where he coach the offensive line for several years and
• 1:41:55
  several playoff runs. He's at 14 and 14 ft, what
• 1:41:58
  Wabash? Cincinnati at Notre Dame.
• 1:42:03
  The line just went down a few minutes ago.
• 1:42:07
  Cincinnati is the road favorite. Lane two points against the
• 1:42:13
  Irish. Cincinnati is 3 and 0 Notre
• 1:42:18
  Dame's for no Cincinnati with wind So Far Over Indiana might
• 1:42:24
  Miami of Ohio and Murray State so not the biggest while while
• 1:42:31
  Notre Dame. We watch the fourth quarter that
• 1:42:34
  game just laid the absolute SmackDown on Wisconsin in every
• 1:42:38
  single way. We Got Game Day in Athens,
• 1:42:43
  Georgia. I like that.
• 1:42:47
  I mean, I'm not knocking, like, where they go but for real.
• 1:42:53
  You're good. If this was that Arkansas, do
• 1:42:57
  it, they don't go to Fayetteville, much to me, go to
• 1:43:01
  South Bend, you give Cincinnati that Spotlight that day.
• 1:43:04
  You give Georgia Spotlight all the time.
• 1:43:06
  All right, Brian. Two-point game.
• 1:43:11
  Do you think it's basically considered I'm taking Notre
• 1:43:13
  Dame? Mainly because I want Notre Dame
• 1:43:16
  to get another Goodwin before we get them.
• 1:43:20
  I want that game to be as big and meaningful as possible
• 1:43:23
  because if we can figure out a way to get it done, then,
• 1:43:28
  that'll that's all the better for us.
• 1:43:30
  Absolutely. And I'm with you.
• 1:43:33
  And I'm not with you because of I want them to come in
• 1:43:36
  undefeated. I want them to come in rank.
• 1:43:40
  Bleah. It could potentially be in the
• 1:43:42
  top five with that win, especially with numerous teams
• 1:43:47
  above them playing good opponents but I think this is
• 1:43:51
  the Marcus Freeman game. I think Marcus Freeman who had
• 1:43:54
  been with Luke pickle for quite a few years.
• 1:43:57
  Probably knows enough ins and outs when you can say the same
• 1:44:01
  thing with fickle knows his defense in and out to the
• 1:44:04
  difference is pickle knows his defense in and out pickle now
• 1:44:08
  has to deal with his defense. The ins and out with stack, top
• 1:44:13
  ten classes in top Elite Defenders.
• 1:44:17
  And as good as fickle as a coach, I think Notre Dame wins
• 1:44:20
  this one. So a home, dog getting points.
• 1:44:23
  Let's lay that on the line. We're both going Notre, Dame.
• 1:44:27
  We only disagreed on two games behind.
• 1:44:31
  So if you like our statistics of when we bet together, which I
• 1:44:36
  think we're running it like a 70% clip when we agree on
• 1:44:38
  things. Take your money, those games.
• 1:44:42
  We agreed on. Go Leon.
• 1:44:43
  Yeah, we got we got a good card this week, guys, got a very good
• 1:44:46
  card. This week.
• 1:44:47
  Anything breaking in the last hours here.
• 1:44:52
  I haven't seen anything buddy. It's like we're free and clear.
• 1:44:58
  All right, well let's wrap up this episode of The Boundary
• 1:45:01
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• 1:45:04
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