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Exploring the Contributions of Asian and Pacific Islander Athletes in Football · Sports History Network

• 0:52
  He
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  ends
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  up
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  becoming,
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  he's
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  the
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  first
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  Asian
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  and
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  the
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  first
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  Native
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  Hawaiian
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  or
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  Pacific
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  Islander
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  player
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  in
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  the
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  NFL
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  history.
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  That's
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  a
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  tremendously
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  big
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  statement
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  in
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  football
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  history
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  from
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  our
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  guest,
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  Timothy
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  B.
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  Brown,
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  who
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  joins
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  us
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  today,
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  who's
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  going
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  to
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  reveal
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  this
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  secret
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  and
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  more
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  about
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  the
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  great
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  Asians
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  and
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  Polynesian
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  players
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  in
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  football
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  history
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  coming
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  up
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  in
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  just
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  a
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  moment.
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  Check
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  it
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  out.
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  Pigskin
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  dispatch
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  video.
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  Yeah.
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  Woohoo.
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  You
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  know,
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  in
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  the
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  modern
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  game
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  of
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  football,
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  folks
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  that
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  are
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  really
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  good
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  at
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  playing
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  football
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  from
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  the
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  Polynesian
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  nationality.
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  And,
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  you
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  know,
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  people
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  like
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  Troy
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  Palomalo
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  and
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  Puka
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  Nukua
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  and
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  others,
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  you
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  know,
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  they're,
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  they're
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  running
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  rampant
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  in
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  the
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  NFL
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  and
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  doing
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  quite
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  well.
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  Well,
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  Tim
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  Brown
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  joins
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  us
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  today
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  the
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  first
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  of
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  these
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  Polynesian
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  folks
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  that
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  played
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  the
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  game
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  of
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  football.
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  Tim,
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  welcome
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  back
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  to
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  the
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  Pig
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  Pennsylvania.
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  Hey,
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  Darren,
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  good
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  to
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  chat
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  with
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  you.
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  And
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  yeah,
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  look,
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  looking
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  forward
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  to
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  covering
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  this.
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  I
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  think
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  it's,
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  you
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  know,
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  not
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  well
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  covered,
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  especially
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  the
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  history
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  of
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  some
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  of
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  these
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  fellows.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  mean,
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  like
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  I,
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  I,
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  you
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  know,
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  Marcus
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  Mariota
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  and
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  Troy
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  Palomalo
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  and
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  these
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  guys
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  are
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  like,
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  fun
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  to
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  watch.
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  They're,
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  they're
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  fun
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  players.
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  They're
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  great
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  players
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  making
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  some
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  great
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  plays.
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  But
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  there's
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  a
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  tradition
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  of
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  these
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  folks
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  from
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  the
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  islands
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  playing
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  the
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  game
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  of
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  football
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  that
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  I,
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  I
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  never
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  knew,
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  really
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  knew
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  till
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  I
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  read
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  your
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  recent
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  tidbit
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  on
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  this
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  that
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  you
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  have
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  titled
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  Pioneering
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  Asian
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  and
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  Pacific
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  Islander
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  Football
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  players.
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  And
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  what
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  can
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  you
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  tell
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  us
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  about
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  these
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  folks,
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  Tim?
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  you
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  know,
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  kind
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  of
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  like
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  you
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  said,
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  I
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  mean,
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  we've,
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  I
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  think,
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  you
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  know,
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  the,
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  not
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  that
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  it's
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  been
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  researched
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  enough,
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  but,
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  you
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  know,
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  there
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  has
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  been
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  research
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  and
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  just
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  general
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  awareness
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  obviously
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  of
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  the
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  role
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  of
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  African
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  Americans,
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  black
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  players
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  in,
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  in
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  football,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  just
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  like
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  in
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  other
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  sports
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  and
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  society
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  more
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  generally,
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  they
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  were,
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  you
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  know,
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  held
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  back,
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  banned.
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  You
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  know,
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  there
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  was
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  segregation,
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  yada
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  yada.
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  And
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  then
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  that,
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  that
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  all
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  really
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  started
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  changing
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  in
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  the
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  1960s.
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  You
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  know,
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  that's
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  when
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  it
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  really
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  started
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  changing.
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  But
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  you
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  know,
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  there
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  was
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  also,
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  you
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  had
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  the
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  Carlisle
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  and
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  the
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  Native
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  American
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  schools
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  or
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  Indian
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  schools.
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  You
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  know,
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  we
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  had,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  so
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  those
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  are
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  kind
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  of
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  groups
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  that
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  were
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  kind
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  of,
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  you
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  know,
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  there's
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  maybe
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  awareness
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  of
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  some
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  of
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  their
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  issues.
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  But
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  there's
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  also
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  there's
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  been
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  some
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  groups
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  there's
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  the
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  Jewish
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  hall
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  of
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  Fame,
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  Athletic
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  hall
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  of
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  Fame.
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  Now
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  obviously
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  that's
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  sometimes
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  people
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  consider
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  nationality
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  or
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  ethnic
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  group,
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  but
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  anyways,
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  I'm
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  get
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  into
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  that.
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  But
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  there's,
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  there's
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  been
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  a
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  Polish
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  American
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  Halls
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  of
• 3:38
  fame,
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  you
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  know,
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  so
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  there's
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  been
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  different
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  groups
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  where,
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  you
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  know,
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  they've
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  celebrated
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  their,
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  their
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  culture
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  and
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  their
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  athletic,
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  you
• 3:43
  know,
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  prowess.
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  But
• 3:45
  anyways,
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  was
• 3:45
  thinking
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  about
• 3:46
  that
• 3:46
  and
• 3:46
  it
• 3:46
  was
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  like,
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  I've
• 3:47
  never,
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  I
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  don't
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  remember
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  seeing
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  anything
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  about
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  Asian
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  and
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  Pacific
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  Islanders,
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  so
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  I
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  just
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  decided
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  to
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  start
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  looking
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  into
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  it.
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  So
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  anyways,
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  you
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  know,
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  it's
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  not
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  necessarily
• 3:59
  the
• 3:59
  easiest
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  thing
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  to
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  find,
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  but
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  so
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  it
• 4:01
  took
• 4:01
  a
• 4:01
  lot
• 4:01
  of,
• 4:01
  you
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:02
  just
• 4:02
  digging.
• 4:03
  But,
• 4:03
  you
• 4:03
  know,
• 4:04
  what
• 4:04
  I
• 4:04
  ended
• 4:04
  up
• 4:04
  finding
• 4:05
  was
• 4:05
  that
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  there
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  a
• 4:06
  lot
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  the
• 4:06
  early,
• 4:08
  and
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  was
• 4:08
  focused
• 4:09
  on
• 4:09
  college
• 4:09
  football,
• 4:10
  right?
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  So
• 4:11
  a
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  lot
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  early
• 4:13
  college
• 4:13
  football
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  players
• 4:14
  who,
• 4:14
  who
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  were
• 4:15
  Asian
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  and
• 4:16
  not
• 4:16
  Pacific
• 4:17
  Islanders
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  initially,
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  a
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  lot
• 4:20
  of
• 4:20
  them
• 4:20
  were
• 4:20
  actually
• 4:21
  foreign
• 4:21
  nationals.
• 4:22
  You
• 4:22
  know,
• 4:22
  they
• 4:22
  were
• 4:23
  like
• 4:23
  their
• 4:23
  dad
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  was
• 4:24
  some
• 4:24
  kind
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  big,
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  you
• 4:26
  know,
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  government
• 4:27
  official
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  or
• 4:28
  military
• 4:29
  officer
• 4:30
  or
• 4:30
  just
• 4:30
  somebody
• 4:30
  who
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  was
• 4:31
  rich
• 4:31
  in
• 4:31
  China
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  or
• 4:32
  Japan,
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  right?
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  And
• 4:34
  so
• 4:35
  they
• 4:35
  sent
• 4:35
  their,
• 4:35
  you
• 4:35
  know,
• 4:36
  there's
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  big
• 4:36
  move,
• 4:36
  especially
• 4:37
  in
• 4:37
  Japan,
• 4:38
  you
• 4:38
  know,
• 4:38
  late
• 4:39
  1800s,
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  send
• 4:41
  their
• 4:41
  children
• 4:42
  to
• 4:43
  Europe
• 4:43
  and
• 4:44
  to
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  US
• 4:45
  for
• 4:45
  education,
• 4:46
  right?
• 4:47
  And
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  bring,
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  know,
• 4:48
  modern
• 4:48
  technology
• 4:49
  back,
• 4:49
  yada,
• 4:49
  yada.
• 4:50
  So,
• 4:52
  so
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  lot
• 4:52
  of
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  early
• 4:54
  Asian
• 4:55
  players
• 4:55
  were
• 4:55
  actually
• 4:56
  foreign
• 4:56
  nationals
• 4:57
  who
• 4:58
  maybe
• 4:58
  were
• 4:59
  just
• 4:59
  good
• 4:59
  athletes.
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  And
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  know,
• 5:02
  there
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  one
• 5:02
  guy
• 5:02
  like
• 5:02
  at
• 5:03
  Penn
• 5:03
  who
• 5:03
  was,
• 5:03
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  played
• 5:04
  on
• 5:04
  their
• 5:04
  base.
• 5:05
  He
• 5:05
  was
• 5:05
  a
• 5:05
  varsity
• 5:05
  baseball
• 5:06
  player.
• 5:06
  He
• 5:06
  was
• 5:07
  one
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  best
• 5:07
  tennis
• 5:08
  players
• 5:08
  around
• 5:08
  at
• 5:08
  the
• 5:09
  time.
• 5:09
  And
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  know,
• 5:10
  he
• 5:10
  was
• 5:10
  anyways,
• 5:11
  but,
• 5:12
  you
• 5:12
  know,
• 5:12
  so
• 5:12
  they
• 5:12
  were
• 5:13
  good
• 5:13
  athletes
• 5:13
  or
• 5:13
  just
• 5:14
  wanted
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  become
• 5:15
  acculturated,
• 5:16
  you
• 5:16
  know,
• 5:17
  and
• 5:17
  so
• 5:17
  they
• 5:17
  joined
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  football
• 5:18
  team.
• 5:18
  And
• 5:18
  that
• 5:19
  was
• 5:19
  back
• 5:19
  when
• 5:19
  most
• 5:20
  of,
• 5:20
  most
• 5:20
  of
• 5:21
  the
• 5:21
  football
• 5:21
  teams,
• 5:21
  even
• 5:22
  at
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  top
• 5:22
  schools,
• 5:23
  they
• 5:23
  were
• 5:23
  just
• 5:23
  walk
• 5:24
  ons,
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  know.
• 5:25
  Yeah,
• 5:25
  they
• 5:26
  recruited
• 5:26
  some
• 5:26
  big
• 5:26
  stars
• 5:27
  here
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  there,
• 5:27
  but
• 5:28
  most
• 5:28
  of
• 5:28
  the
• 5:28
  guys
• 5:29
  were
• 5:29
  just,
• 5:30
  it's
• 5:30
  whoever
• 5:30
  showed
• 5:30
  up.
• 5:31
  So,
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  know,
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  know,
• 5:33
  I
• 5:33
  compare,
• 5:34
  it's
• 5:34
  like
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  foreign
• 5:34
  exchange
• 5:35
  student,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  say,
• 5:35
  yeah,
• 5:35
  okay,
• 5:36
  let
• 5:36
  me
• 5:36
  try
• 5:36
  this.
• 5:37
  And
• 5:37
  then
• 5:37
  some
• 5:38
  of
• 5:38
  them
• 5:38
  just
• 5:38
  were
• 5:38
  talented
• 5:39
  enough
• 5:39
  that
• 5:39
  they,
• 5:39
  you
• 5:40
  know,
• 5:40
  they
• 5:40
  got
• 5:40
  some
• 5:40
  playing
• 5:40
  time.
• 5:41
  So.
• 5:42
  But,
• 5:42
  you
• 5:42
  know,
• 5:42
  so
• 5:42
  initially
• 5:43
  it
• 5:43
  was
• 5:43
  just,
• 5:43
  that
• 5:44
  was
• 5:44
  kind
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  the,
• 5:45
  what
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  saw,
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  especially
• 5:46
  that
• 5:47
  was
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  case
• 5:47
  in
• 5:48
  eastern
• 5:48
  schools,
• 5:49
  you
• 5:49
  know,
• 5:49
  because
• 5:49
  there
• 5:50
  just
• 5:50
  wasn't
• 5:50
  much
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  US
• 5:52
  There
• 5:52
  just
• 5:52
  wasn't
• 5:53
  much
• 5:53
  an
• 5:53
  Asian
• 5:53
  population
• 5:54
  on
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  east
• 5:55
  Coast.
• 5:57
  Asians
• 5:58
  first
• 5:58
  showed
• 5:58
  up
• 5:59
  on
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  west
• 5:59
  coast,
• 6:00
  you
• 6:00
  know,
• 6:00
  for
• 6:00
  kind
• 6:00
  of
• 6:01
  obvious,
• 6:01
  you
• 6:01
  know,
• 6:01
  geographic
• 6:02
  reasons.
• 6:03
  And
• 6:05
  so
• 6:06
  then
• 6:06
  what
• 6:06
  you
• 6:06
  started
• 6:06
  seeing
• 6:07
  was
• 6:08
  some
• 6:08
  players
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  Asian
• 6:10
  descent
• 6:10
  who
• 6:11
  were
• 6:11
  like
• 6:12
  first
• 6:12
  generation
• 6:13
  kids
• 6:14
  living
• 6:14
  in
• 6:15
  California
• 6:15
  especially,
• 6:16
  who
• 6:17
  started
• 6:17
  playing
• 6:17
  high
• 6:17
  school.
• 6:17
  You
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:18
  they're
• 6:18
  playing
• 6:18
  high
• 6:18
  school
• 6:18
  ball
• 6:19
  just
• 6:19
  like
• 6:19
  anybody
• 6:19
  else.
• 6:20
  And
• 6:20
  so
• 6:21
  then
• 6:21
  they
• 6:21
  end
• 6:21
  up
• 6:21
  playing
• 6:21
  at
• 6:22
  Cal
• 6:22
  or
• 6:22
  Stanford
• 6:23
  or,
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  know,
• 6:23
  wherever.
• 6:27
  And
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  did
• 6:27
  not
• 6:28
  find
• 6:28
  anybody
• 6:31
  before
• 6:31
  the
• 6:32
  20s
• 6:33
  who
• 6:33
  was
• 6:34
  identified
• 6:35
  as
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  Pacific
• 6:36
  Islander,
• 6:38
  which
• 6:38
  is
• 6:38
  actually
• 6:38
  a
• 6:39
  little
• 6:39
  bit
• 6:39
  odd,
• 6:39
  but
• 6:40
  because,
• 6:40
  you
• 6:40
  know,
• 6:41
  they're,
• 6:41
  you
• 6:42
  know,
• 6:42
  Hawaii
• 6:43
  became
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  still
• 6:44
  produces
• 6:45
  a
• 6:45
  lot
• 6:45
  of,
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  know,
• 6:46
  really
• 6:46
  talented
• 6:46
  football
• 6:46
  players.
• 6:47
  But,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  know,
• 6:49
  Hawaii
• 6:49
  has
• 6:50
  a
• 6:50
  long
• 6:50
  tradition
• 6:50
  of
• 6:51
  football,
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  it's
• 6:51
  because
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  US
• 6:52
  Military
• 6:53
  presence
• 6:53
  there.
• 6:53
  You
• 6:54
  know,
• 6:54
  mean,
• 6:54
  it
• 6:54
  was
• 6:54
  a
• 6:55
  territory,
• 6:55
  not
• 6:55
  a
• 6:55
  state.
• 6:58
  But,
• 6:58
  you
• 6:59
  know,
• 6:59
  the
• 7:00
  soldiers
• 7:00
  and
• 7:00
  sailors
• 7:01
  are
• 7:01
  playing
• 7:01
  football.
• 7:01
  And
• 7:02
  so
• 7:02
  they
• 7:02
  started
• 7:02
  too,
• 7:02
  and
• 7:03
  they
• 7:03
  have,
• 7:03
  you
• 7:03
  know,
• 7:03
  they
• 7:03
  had
• 7:04
  this
• 7:04
  long
• 7:04
  tradition
• 7:04
  of
• 7:04
  barefoot
• 7:05
  football.
• 7:07
  And
• 7:08
  so
• 7:08
  then
• 7:09
  some
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  them
• 7:09
  started
• 7:09
  playing.
• 7:10
  You
• 7:10
  know,
• 7:10
  they're
• 7:11
  playing
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  high
• 7:11
  school
• 7:11
  and
• 7:12
  eventually
• 7:14
  St.
• 7:14
  Louis
• 7:15
  School.
• 7:16
  It
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  then
• 7:16
  St.
• 7:17
  Louis
• 7:17
  College,
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  think.
• 7:17
  But
• 7:18
  anyways,
• 7:19
  it's
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  Catholic
• 7:19
  school
• 7:20
  in.
• 7:20
  In
• 7:20
  Honolulu
• 7:22
  that
• 7:23
  still
• 7:23
  produces,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:24
  know,
• 7:24
  some
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  the
• 7:24
  guys
• 7:24
  you
• 7:24
  mentioned
• 7:25
  played
• 7:25
  there.
• 7:26
  You
• 7:26
  know,
• 7:26
  they
• 7:27
  produce
• 7:27
  a
• 7:27
  lot
• 7:27
  of.
• 7:28
  A
• 7:28
  lot
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  really
• 7:28
  talented
• 7:29
  players.
• 7:30
  And
• 7:31
  so.
• 7:33
  So
• 7:33
  there
• 7:33
  was
• 7:33
  this
• 7:33
  guy
• 7:34
  named
• 7:34
  Walter.
• 7:37
  It's.
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  think
• 7:38
  it's
• 7:38
  actually
• 7:38
  a
• 7:39
  chew.
• 7:40
  So
• 7:41
  a
• 7:41
  C
• 7:42
  H
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  U.
• 7:44
  And
• 7:45
  he.
• 7:46
  He
• 7:46
  ends
• 7:46
  up
• 7:47
  going
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  Dayton.
• 7:48
  You
• 7:49
  know,
• 7:49
  it's
• 7:49
  like,
• 7:49
  okay,
• 7:50
  well,
• 7:50
  why
• 7:50
  would
• 7:51
  somebody
• 7:51
  from
• 7:52
  Honolulu
• 7:52
  go
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  Dayton?
• 7:54
  And
• 7:54
  it
• 7:54
  turns
• 7:55
  out
• 7:55
  that
• 7:55
  both
• 7:55
  of
• 7:55
  them,
• 7:56
  you
• 7:56
  know,
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  St.
• 7:57
  Louis
• 7:57
  School
• 7:57
  and
• 7:58
  then
• 7:58
  Dayton
• 7:59
  are
• 8:00
  run
• 8:00
  by
• 8:00
  the
• 8:01
  same
• 8:01
  Catholic
• 8:02
  order.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:03
  so
• 8:04
  that
• 8:05
  is
• 8:05
  probably
• 8:06
  the
• 8:06
  reason
• 8:06
  he
• 8:06
  went
• 8:07
  there.
• 8:07
  And
• 8:07
  then
• 8:08
  three
• 8:08
  of
• 8:09
  his
• 8:09
  classmates
• 8:10
  who
• 8:10
  are
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  year
• 8:10
  behind
• 8:10
  him
• 8:11
  end
• 8:11
  up
• 8:11
  going
• 8:11
  there
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  following
• 8:13
  year.
• 8:14
  And
• 8:14
  so.
• 8:16
  So
• 8:16
  then
• 8:16
  he
• 8:16
  ends
• 8:17
  up
• 8:17
  become,
• 8:17
  you
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:17
  he
• 8:18
  becomes
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  star.
• 8:18
  You
• 8:19
  know,
• 8:19
  he's
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  really
• 8:19
  good
• 8:19
  athlete,
• 8:20
  faster
• 8:20
  than
• 8:21
  anything,
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  so
• 8:21
  he
• 8:22
  ends
• 8:22
  up
• 8:22
  captaining
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  track
• 8:23
  team,
• 8:23
  too.
• 8:23
  But
• 8:24
  he
• 8:24
  was
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  running
• 8:24
  back,
• 8:25
  mostly
• 8:25
  halfback.
• 8:26
  Played
• 8:26
  quarterback
• 8:27
  for
• 8:27
  him.
• 8:28
  And.
• 8:29
  But,
• 8:29
  like,
• 8:29
  all
• 8:29
  through
• 8:30
  his
• 8:30
  college
• 8:30
  career,
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  at
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  time,
• 8:32
  Dayton
• 8:32
  was
• 8:33
  probably
• 8:33
  playing,
• 8:33
  you
• 8:34
  know,
• 8:34
  maybe
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  little
• 8:34
  bit
• 8:34
  better
• 8:34
  than
• 8:35
  small
• 8:35
  college.
• 8:35
  But,
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  know,
• 8:36
  most
• 8:36
  of
• 8:36
  their.
• 8:37
  That's
• 8:38
  basically
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  level
• 8:38
  that
• 8:39
  they
• 8:39
  were
• 8:39
  playing.
• 8:40
  And,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:43
  he
• 8:44
  was
• 8:44
  like.
• 8:44
  People
• 8:45
  would
• 8:46
  write
• 8:46
  him
• 8:46
  up
• 8:46
  in
• 8:46
  the
• 8:47
  newspaper.
• 8:47
  They
• 8:47
  always
• 8:47
  mentioned
• 8:48
  it
• 8:48
  was
• 8:48
  just
• 8:48
  like
• 8:48
  they
• 8:48
  used
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  do
• 8:49
  the
• 8:49
  same
• 8:49
  thing.
• 8:50
  Like,
• 8:50
  if
• 8:50
  there
• 8:51
  was
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  colored
• 8:52
  player,
• 8:52
  you
• 8:52
  know,
• 8:53
  or
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  Negro
• 8:54
  player,
• 8:54
  they'd
• 8:54
  always
• 8:55
  mention
• 8:55
  his
• 8:55
  race,
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  know,
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  they
• 8:58
  did
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  same
• 8:58
  thing
• 8:58
  with
• 8:58
  him.
• 8:59
  He's
• 8:59
  just,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  know,
• 9:00
  they
• 9:00
  call
• 9:00
  him
• 9:00
  Chinese,
• 9:01
  whether
• 9:02
  the.
• 9:03
  Or
• 9:04
  native
• 9:05
  Islander,
• 9:05
  because
• 9:05
  his
• 9:06
  father
• 9:06
  was
• 9:06
  Chinese
• 9:07
  from
• 9:07
  China
• 9:07
  and
• 9:08
  his
• 9:08
  mother
• 9:08
  was
• 9:08
  a,
• 9:09
  you
• 9:09
  know,
• 9:10
  native
• 9:10
  wine.
• 9:12
  So
• 9:12
  anyway,
• 9:13
  so
• 9:13
  they'd
• 9:13
  always
• 9:14
  build
• 9:15
  like
• 9:15
  his
• 9:16
  race
• 9:16
  was
• 9:17
  half
• 9:17
  of
• 9:17
  his
• 9:18
  football
• 9:19
  identity.
• 9:19
  You
• 9:20
  know,
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  mean,
• 9:20
  not
• 9:20
  that
• 9:20
  he
• 9:21
  made
• 9:21
  it
• 9:21
  so.
• 9:21
  But
• 9:22
  that's
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  way
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  press
• 9:23
  reported
• 9:23
  it.
• 9:24
  So
• 9:25
  anyways,
• 9:25
  he
• 9:25
  graduates,
• 9:26
  got
• 9:26
  an
• 9:26
  Electrical
• 9:27
  engineering
• 9:27
  degree
• 9:28
  from
• 9:28
  Dayton.
• 9:28
  And
• 9:30
  he
• 9:30
  actually,
• 9:31
  he
• 9:31
  coached.
• 9:31
  Well,
• 9:32
  he
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  a
• 9:32
  trainer,
• 9:32
  but
• 9:33
  any
• 9:33
  coach
• 9:33
  trainer,
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  know,
• 9:34
  is
• 9:35
  because
• 9:35
  he
• 9:35
  stayed
• 9:35
  an
• 9:35
  extra
• 9:36
  year.
• 9:37
  But
• 9:37
  then
• 9:38
  that
• 9:38
  same
• 9:38
  year
• 9:38
  he's
• 9:39
  also
• 9:39
  playing
• 9:39
  semi
• 9:39
  pro
• 9:40
  ball
• 9:40
  and
• 9:40
  then
• 9:41
  starts
• 9:41
  playing
• 9:41
  for
• 9:41
  the
• 9:42
  Dayton
• 9:42
  Triangles
• 9:43
  who
• 9:44
  are
• 9:44
  in
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  NFL.
• 9:45
  So
• 9:46
  he
• 9:46
  ends
• 9:46
  up
• 9:47
  becoming.
• 9:47
  He's
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  first
• 9:49
  Asian
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  the
• 9:50
  first
• 9:50
  native
• 9:51
  Hawaiian
• 9:52
  or
• 9:52
  Pacific
• 9:53
  Islander
• 9:54
  player
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  the
• 9:55
  NFL
• 9:55
  history.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:57
  Dayton
• 9:58
  Triangles
• 9:58
  played
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  the
• 9:59
  first
• 9:59
  NFL
• 10:00
  game
• 10:00
  where
• 10:01
  two
• 10:01
  NFL
• 10:01
  teams
• 10:02
  played
• 10:02
  each
• 10:02
  other
• 10:02
  that
• 10:03
  APFA.
• 10:04
  So
• 10:04
  I
• 10:05
  don't
• 10:05
  know
• 10:05
  if
• 10:05
  he
• 10:05
  was
• 10:05
  in
• 10:05
  1920
• 10:06
  and
• 10:06
  on
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  team,
• 10:06
  but
• 10:07
  he
• 10:07
  might
• 10:07
  have
• 10:07
  played
• 10:07
  that
• 10:07
  game.
• 10:08
  He
• 10:08
  was
• 10:08
  in
• 10:08
  26.
• 10:09
  26.
• 10:10
  Okay.
• 10:10
  Yeah.
• 10:12
  So
• 10:12
  he
• 10:12
  ends
• 10:12
  up,
• 10:14
  you
• 10:15
  know,
• 10:15
  he,
• 10:15
  he,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:17
  know,
• 10:17
  my
• 10:17
  sense
• 10:18
  is
• 10:18
  that
• 10:19
  he
• 10:19
  was
• 10:19
  like,
• 10:20
  he
• 10:20
  started
• 10:20
  probably
• 10:20
  half
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  time
• 10:21
  that
• 10:21
  he
• 10:21
  was
• 10:21
  in
• 10:21
  the
• 10:22
  NFL.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:22
  the
• 10:23
  Triangles
• 10:23
  during
• 10:23
  his
• 10:24
  era,
• 10:24
  they
• 10:24
  weren't
• 10:24
  a
• 10:25
  very
• 10:25
  good
• 10:25
  team.
• 10:25
  They
• 10:25
  only
• 10:25
  won
• 10:26
  like
• 10:26
  three,
• 10:26
  three
• 10:26
  games.
• 10:27
  Tanya
• 10:27
  was
• 10:28
  there,
• 10:29
  but,
• 10:30
  but
• 10:30
  then
• 10:30
  like
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  NFL
• 10:31
  teams
• 10:31
  would
• 10:31
  promote,
• 10:32
  you
• 10:32
  know,
• 10:32
  like
• 10:32
  if
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  read
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  Green
• 10:33
  Bay
• 10:34
  Press
• 10:34
  Gazette,
• 10:35
  whenever
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  Triangles
• 10:37
  were
• 10:37
  coming
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  town,
• 10:38
  they'd
• 10:38
  always
• 10:38
  talk
• 10:39
  about
• 10:39
  this,
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  know,
• 10:40
  sneeze.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  I,
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  don't
• 10:42
  think
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  really
• 10:42
  built
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  up.
• 10:43
  But
• 10:44
  because
• 10:44
  his
• 10:44
  last
• 10:44
  name
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  Achui.
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  almost
• 10:47
  told
• 10:47
  you
• 10:48
  God
• 10:48
  bless
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  first
• 10:48
  time
• 10:49
  you
• 10:49
  said
• 10:49
  it.
• 10:49
  But
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  said,
• 10:50
  I'll
• 10:50
  hold,
• 10:50
  I'll
• 10:50
  withhold
• 10:50
  that.
• 10:52
  But
• 10:53
  apparently
• 10:54
  like
• 10:54
  people
• 10:54
  had
• 10:55
  trouble
• 10:55
  pronouncing
• 10:55
  his
• 10:56
  name,
• 10:56
  so
• 10:56
  he
• 10:56
  would
• 10:56
  tell
• 10:56
  them
• 10:57
  it's
• 10:57
  just
• 10:58
  like
• 10:58
  a
• 10:58
  sneeze,
• 10:58
  a
• 10:58
  chewy.
• 11:00
  Anyways.
• 11:01
  And,
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  again,
• 11:02
  I
• 11:03
  may
• 11:03
  not
• 11:03
  have
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  pronunciation
• 11:05
  exactly,
• 11:05
  exactly
• 11:06
  right
• 11:06
  or
• 11:06
  at
• 11:07
  least
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  way
• 11:07
  it
• 11:07
  would
• 11:07
  be
• 11:08
  pronounced
• 11:09
  by
• 11:09
  a
• 11:09
  native.
• 11:09
  But
• 11:10
  anyways,
• 11:12
  so
• 11:12
  he
• 11:12
  ends
• 11:13
  up
• 11:13
  playing
• 11:13
  in,
• 11:15
  in
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  26th
• 11:16
  season
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  27
• 11:17
  season
• 11:17
  plays,
• 11:18
  you
• 11:18
  know,
• 11:18
  all
• 11:18
  season
• 11:18
  four.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:20
  then
• 11:20
  what's
• 11:20
  funny
• 11:20
  is
• 11:21
  that
• 11:21
  I
• 11:21
  kind
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  came
• 11:22
  across.
• 11:22
  I'd
• 11:23
  heard
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  him,
• 11:23
  but
• 11:23
  I
• 11:24
  didn't.
• 11:24
  Hadn't
• 11:24
  paid
• 11:24
  much
• 11:25
  attention
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  him
• 11:25
  until
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  came
• 11:26
  across
• 11:26
  this
• 11:27
  broadside
• 11:27
  or
• 11:27
  poster
• 11:28
  that
• 11:28
  was
• 11:30
  about
• 11:30
  an
• 11:30
  upcoming
• 11:32
  Chicago
• 11:32
  Bears
• 11:32
  Dayton
• 11:33
  triangles
• 11:33
  game
• 11:34
  from
• 11:34
  1928.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:36
  he's
• 11:37
  listed
• 11:37
  there
• 11:37
  on
• 11:38
  the.
• 11:39
  They
• 11:39
  show
• 11:39
  two
• 11:39
  players
• 11:40
  or
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  name
• 11:40
  two
• 11:41
  players.
• 11:41
  One
• 11:41
  is
• 11:42
  a
• 11:42
  guy
• 11:42
  named
• 11:42
  Britain
• 11:43
  who
• 11:43
  had.
• 11:43
  Was
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  fullback
• 11:44
  for,
• 11:47
  for
• 11:48
  Red
• 11:48
  Grange
• 11:48
  in
• 11:48
  Illinois.
• 11:49
  And
• 11:50
  so
• 11:50
  okay,
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  makes
• 11:50
  sense.
• 11:51
  Chicago
• 11:51
  Bears
• 11:52
  and
• 11:52
  everything.
• 11:52
  And
• 11:53
  then,
• 11:54
  then
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  other
• 11:54
  guy
• 11:55
  is
• 11:55
  Achui.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  so,
• 11:57
  but
• 11:58
  what's
• 11:58
  funny
• 11:58
  about
• 11:58
  the
• 11:59
  story
• 11:59
  is
• 11:59
  that
• 12:01
  by
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  time.
• 12:02
  So
• 12:03
  they
• 12:03
  were
• 12:03
  promoting
• 12:04
  a
• 12:04
  game
• 12:04
  like,
• 12:05
  you
• 12:05
  know,
• 12:05
  November
• 12:06
  20th
• 12:06
  or
• 12:06
  something
• 12:06
  like
• 12:07
  that,
• 12:08
  but
• 12:08
  he
• 12:09
  had
• 12:09
  left
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  Triangles
• 12:11
  to
• 12:12
  go
• 12:12
  play
• 12:12
  for.
• 12:16
  Play
• 12:16
  for,
• 12:16
  you
• 12:17
  know,
• 12:17
  what
• 12:17
  was
• 12:17
  then
• 12:17
  a
• 12:18
  semi
• 12:18
  pro
• 12:18
  team.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:19
  so
• 12:20
  he
• 12:20
  wasn't
• 12:20
  Even
• 12:20
  on
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  team
• 12:21
  by
• 12:21
  the
• 12:22
  time
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  post.
• 12:22
  Well,
• 12:23
  but
• 12:23
  he
• 12:23
  had
• 12:23
  left
• 12:24
  the.
• 12:24
  He
• 12:24
  was
• 12:24
  off
• 12:24
  the
• 12:25
  triangles
• 12:26
  for
• 12:26
  like,
• 12:26
  three
• 12:26
  weeks
• 12:26
  before
• 12:27
  that
• 12:27
  poster
• 12:27
  came
• 12:28
  out.
• 12:28
  So
• 12:28
  it's
• 12:29
  just
• 12:29
  kind
• 12:29
  of.
• 12:29
  It's
• 12:30
  just
• 12:30
  kind
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  funny
• 12:30
  because
• 12:31
  it
• 12:31
  was
• 12:31
  still
• 12:32
  like,
• 12:32
  okay,
• 12:32
  well,
• 12:32
  we
• 12:32
  still
• 12:32
  got
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  promote,
• 12:33
  you
• 12:33
  know,
• 12:34
  this
• 12:34
  guy
• 12:34
  because
• 12:35
  he's
• 12:35
  like
• 12:36
  an
• 12:36
  attraction.
• 12:36
  He's
• 12:36
  like
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  novelty.
• 12:37
  Right.
• 12:38
  And
• 12:40
  so
• 12:40
  anyways,
• 12:41
  so
• 12:41
  then.
• 12:42
  Then
• 12:43
  he.
• 12:43
  And
• 12:43
  once
• 12:44
  he
• 12:44
  retires
• 12:44
  from
• 12:44
  football,
• 12:45
  he
• 12:45
  ends
• 12:45
  up.
• 12:45
  He
• 12:45
  was
• 12:45
  a
• 12:46
  pro
• 12:46
  wrestler
• 12:46
  for
• 12:47
  into
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  50s.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:49
  I've
• 12:50
  never
• 12:50
  figured
• 12:50
  out
• 12:50
  if,
• 12:50
  like,
• 12:51
  pro
• 12:51
  wrestling
• 12:51
  back
• 12:52
  then,
• 12:52
  was
• 12:52
  it,
• 12:52
  like,
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  know,
• 12:53
  how
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  NFL
• 12:54
  players
• 12:54
  had
• 12:54
  day
• 12:55
  jobs.
• 12:55
  Like,
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  know,
• 12:55
  this
• 12:56
  guy's
• 12:56
  an
• 12:56
  electrical
• 12:56
  engineer,
• 12:57
  right.
• 12:58
  So.
• 12:59
  And
• 12:59
  I
• 13:00
  know,
• 13:00
  you
• 13:00
  know,
• 13:00
  there's
• 13:01
  coverage
• 13:01
  saying
• 13:01
  that
• 13:02
  he
• 13:02
  start.
• 13:02
  At
• 13:02
  least
• 13:03
  started
• 13:03
  in
• 13:03
  that
• 13:03
  career.
• 13:04
  So
• 13:05
  did
• 13:05
  he.
• 13:06
  Was
• 13:06
  he
• 13:06
  doing
• 13:06
  that
• 13:07
  during
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  day
• 13:07
  and
• 13:07
  then
• 13:07
  wrestling
• 13:08
  at
• 13:08
  night
• 13:08
  or.
• 13:10
  I'm
• 13:10
  not
• 13:10
  sure
• 13:11
  how,
• 13:11
  you
• 13:11
  know,
• 13:11
  just
• 13:11
  how
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  works,
• 13:12
  because
• 13:12
  that's
• 13:12
  what
• 13:12
  I
• 13:13
  know.
• 13:13
  Like,
• 13:13
  Bronco.
• 13:14
  Bronco.
• 13:14
  Nagursky
• 13:15
  did
• 13:15
  both
• 13:15
  and
• 13:17
  end
• 13:18
  up
• 13:18
  quitting
• 13:18
  football
• 13:19
  because
• 13:19
  he
• 13:19
  was
• 13:19
  making
• 13:19
  more
• 13:19
  money
• 13:20
  wrestling,
• 13:20
  you
• 13:20
  know.
• 13:21
  Yeah,
• 13:21
  yeah.
• 13:22
  I
• 13:22
  mean,
• 13:22
  I
• 13:23
  don't
• 13:23
  think
• 13:23
  he
• 13:23
  was
• 13:23
  at
• 13:23
  Broncos
• 13:24
  level
• 13:24
  in
• 13:24
  terms
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  wrestling
• 13:25
  thing,
• 13:26
  but.
• 13:26
  But,
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  know,
• 13:27
  all
• 13:27
  those
• 13:27
  guys
• 13:28
  had
• 13:28
  day
• 13:28
  jobs,
• 13:29
  right?
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  mean,
• 13:30
  so
• 13:31
  anyways,
• 13:32
  it.
• 13:33
  So
• 13:33
  it's
• 13:33
  just
• 13:33
  an
• 13:33
  interesting
• 13:34
  story
• 13:34
  and
• 13:35
  just.
• 13:36
  It's
• 13:36
  just
• 13:36
  kind
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  the.
• 13:37
  At
• 13:37
  the
• 13:37
  time,
• 13:38
  the
• 13:38
  novelty
• 13:40
  of
• 13:40
  a
• 13:41
  guy
• 13:41
  being
• 13:42
  Chinese
• 13:43
  or
• 13:43
  Japanese
• 13:44
  or
• 13:44
  Pacific
• 13:44
  Islander
• 13:45
  was
• 13:45
  like,
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  know,
• 13:47
  that
• 13:47
  was
• 13:47
  the
• 13:48
  story,
• 13:48
  not
• 13:49
  necessarily
• 13:49
  his
• 13:50
  athletic
• 13:50
  play,
• 13:51
  you
• 13:51
  know.
• 13:52
  Yeah.
• 13:53
  It's
• 13:53
  interesting
• 13:54
  when
• 13:54
  you
• 13:54
  say,
• 13:54
  you
• 13:54
  know,
• 13:55
  that
• 13:55
  he
• 13:55
  went
• 13:55
  to
• 13:55
  date
• 13:55
  and,
• 13:56
  you
• 13:56
  know,
• 13:56
  how
• 13:56
  could
• 13:56
  somebody
• 13:57
  from
• 13:57
  Hawaii
• 13:57
  go
• 13:57
  to
• 13:58
  Dayton?
• 13:58
  It
• 13:59
  immediately
• 13:59
  made
• 14:00
  me
• 14:00
  think
• 14:00
  of,
• 14:00
  like,
• 14:01
  Nick
• 14:01
  Herbig
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  believe
• 14:02
  his
• 14:02
  brother
• 14:03
  Nate,
• 14:03
  too.
• 14:03
  They
• 14:04
  came
• 14:04
  from
• 14:04
  Hawaii
• 14:04
  and
• 14:05
  played
• 14:05
  at
• 14:05
  Wisconsin,
• 14:06
  your
• 14:06
  Wisconsin
• 14:07
  team,
• 14:07
  which
• 14:07
  is
• 14:07
  even
• 14:08
  colder
• 14:08
  climate,
• 14:09
  you
• 14:09
  know,
• 14:09
  that's
• 14:09
  just
• 14:10
  crazy.
• 14:10
  It's.
• 14:11
  I
• 14:12
  would
• 14:12
  never
• 14:12
  think
• 14:12
  that.
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  always
• 14:13
  think
• 14:13
  of,
• 14:13
  like,
• 14:13
  us
• 14:14
  in
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  colder
• 14:15
  regions
• 14:16
  wanting
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  go
• 14:17
  play
• 14:17
  in
• 14:17
  Florida
• 14:18
  or
• 14:18
  Hawaii
• 14:18
  or
• 14:18
  Southern
• 14:19
  California
• 14:19
  or
• 14:20
  something.
• 14:20
  But.
• 14:20
  Yeah,
• 14:21
  never
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  other
• 14:21
  way.
• 14:21
  Herbig's
• 14:22
  brother.
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  forget
• 14:23
  where
• 14:23
  he
• 14:23
  played.
• 14:23
  He.
• 14:23
  He
• 14:23
  didn't
• 14:24
  play
• 14:24
  Wisconsin.
• 14:25
  Oh,
• 14:25
  he
• 14:25
  didn't
• 14:25
  play
• 14:25
  it
• 14:25
  in
• 14:25
  Wisconsin.
• 14:26
  Okay.
• 14:26
  Yeah,
• 14:26
  I
• 14:26
  thought
• 14:26
  he
• 14:26
  did.
• 14:28
  I
• 14:28
  can't
• 14:28
  remember
• 14:29
  right
• 14:29
  now,
• 14:29
  you
• 14:29
  know,
• 14:29
  where
• 14:30
  he
• 14:30
  played,
• 14:30
  but.
• 14:30
  Yeah,
• 14:31
  yeah.
• 14:31
  So,
• 14:31
  I
• 14:32
  mean,
• 14:32
  here
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  there
• 14:32
  you
• 14:33
  get
• 14:33
  like,
• 14:33
  one
• 14:34
  of
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  Riola
• 14:35
  brothers
• 14:35
  was.
• 14:36
  You
• 14:36
  know,
• 14:37
  they're
• 14:37
  from
• 14:37
  Hawaii,
• 14:37
  too.
• 14:38
  And
• 14:38
  so
• 14:38
  one
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  them
• 14:38
  played
• 14:39
  it
• 14:39
  at
• 14:39
  Wisconsin.
• 14:40
  His
• 14:41
  older
• 14:41
  brother
• 14:41
  had
• 14:41
  played
• 14:42
  for.
• 14:42
  At
• 14:43
  Nebraska.
• 14:43
  So
• 14:44
  anyways,
• 14:45
  yeah,
• 14:45
  it's
• 14:46
  an
• 14:46
  interesting
• 14:46
  thing.
• 14:46
  And,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  know,
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  mean,
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  lot
• 14:48
  of
• 14:48
  The.
• 14:49
  A
• 14:49
  lot
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  the.
• 14:50
  And
• 14:50
  then,
• 14:51
  you
• 14:51
  know,
• 14:51
  Samoans
• 14:52
  too,
• 14:52
  especially,
• 14:52
  you
• 14:53
  know,
• 14:53
  really
• 14:54
  become
• 14:54
  prominent.
• 14:55
  I.
• 14:56
  They've,
• 14:56
  I
• 14:56
  think,
• 14:57
  generally
• 14:57
  tended
• 14:58
  to
• 14:58
  be
• 14:58
  stayed
• 14:58
  on
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  west
• 14:59
  coast.
• 14:59
  But
• 15:01
  yeah,
• 15:01
  it's
• 15:01
  like,
• 15:01
  go
• 15:02
  wherever
• 15:02
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• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
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• 15:03
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• 15:03
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• 15:04
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• 15:04
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• 15:05
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• 15:05
  That's.
• 15:06
  That's
• 15:06
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• 15:06
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• 15:06
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• 15:06
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• 15:07
  Yeah,
• 15:08
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• 15:09
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• 15:09
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• 15:09
  Tim,
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
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• 15:10
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• 15:11
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• 15:11
  amaze
• 15:11
  me.
• 15:12
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• 15:12
  The
• 15:12
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• 15:12
  you
• 15:13
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• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  find
• 15:13
  some
• 15:14
  football
• 15:14
  history.
• 15:14
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• 15:15
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• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
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• 15:15
  about
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  gadgets
• 15:16
  and
• 15:17
  rules
• 15:17
  and,
• 15:18
  you
• 15:18
  know,
• 15:18
  legendary
• 15:19
  players,
• 15:20
  but
• 15:20
  now
• 15:20
  you're
• 15:20
  going
• 15:21
  culturally
• 15:22
  and
• 15:22
  talking
• 15:22
  about
• 15:23
  some
• 15:23
  people
• 15:23
  that
• 15:24
  don't
• 15:24
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• 15:24
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• 15:24
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• 15:25
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• 15:25
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• 15:26
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• 15:26
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• 15:26
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• 15:27
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• 15:27
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• 15:27
  football.
• 15:27
  And
• 15:27
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• 15:27
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• 15:28
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• 15:28
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• 15:28
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• 15:29
  that,
• 15:29
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• 15:29
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• 15:29
  sure
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  listeners
• 15:30
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• 15:30
  and
• 15:31
  your.
• 15:31
  Your
• 15:31
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• 15:31
  do
• 15:31
  as
• 15:32
  well.
• 15:32
  But
• 15:32
  you.
• 15:33
  You
• 15:33
  do
• 15:33
  this.
• 15:33
  You.
• 15:34
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• 15:34
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• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
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• 15:35
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• 15:35
  gambits
• 15:36
  of
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  game
• 15:36
  of
• 15:36
  football
• 15:37
  in
• 15:37
  your
• 15:37
  tidbits,
• 15:38
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• 15:38
  maybe
• 15:38
  you
• 15:38
  could
• 15:38
  share
• 15:39
  with
• 15:39
  folks
• 15:39
  where
• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:40
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• 15:40
  on
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  some
• 15:40
  of
• 15:41
  these.
• 15:41
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• 15:42
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• 15:42
  go
• 15:42
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• 15:43
  footballarchaeology.com
• 15:44
  it's
• 15:44
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• 15:44
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• 15:45
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• 15:46
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• 15:54
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• 15:55
  And
• 15:56
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• 15:56
  just
• 15:57
  how
• 15:57
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• 15:58
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• 15:58
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• 15:58
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• 15:58
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• 15:58
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• 15:59
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• 15:59
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• 15:59
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• 15:59
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• 15:59
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• 16:00
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• 16:01
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• 16:01
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• 16:02
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• 16:02
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• 16:02
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• 16:03
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• 16:03
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• 16:03
  there
• 16:04
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• 16:04
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• 16:04
  you
• 16:04
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• 16:04
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• 16:05
  a
• 16:05
  lot
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  stuff
• 16:05
  that,
• 16:06
  you
• 16:07
  know,
• 16:07
  if
• 16:07
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• 16:07
  looking
• 16:07
  for
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  question
• 16:08
  on
• 16:08
  football
• 16:08
  history,
• 16:08
  just
• 16:09
  use
• 16:09
  a
• 16:09
  little
• 16:09
  search
• 16:10
  function
• 16:10
  and,
• 16:11
  you
• 16:11
  know,
• 16:11
  there's
• 16:11
  a
• 16:11
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• 16:11
  chance
• 16:12
  I've
• 16:12
  covered
• 16:12
  it
• 16:12
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• 16:13
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• 16:13
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• 16:13
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• 16:14
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• 16:15
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• 16:15
  amazing
• 16:16
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• 16:16
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• 16:16
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• 16:16
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• 16:17
  we
• 16:17
  appreciate
• 16:18
  it.
• 16:18
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• 16:19
  folks,
• 16:19
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• 16:19
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• 16:19
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• 16:20
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• 16:20
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• 16:20
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• 16:20
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• 16:20
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• 16:21
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• 16:21
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• 16:21
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• 16:22
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• 16:22
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• 16:23
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• 16:23
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• 16:23
  in
• 16:23
  any
• 16:24
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• 16:24
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• 16:24
  have,
• 16:24
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• 16:24
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• 16:25
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• 16:25
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• 16:25
  got
• 16:25
  it
• 16:25
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• 16:26
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• 16:26
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• 16:26
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• 16:27
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• 16:27
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• 16:30
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• 16:30
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• 16:30
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• 16:30
  it
• 16:31
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• 16:31
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• 16:31
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• 16:31
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• 16:31
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• 16:32
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• 16:32
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• 16:32
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• 16:32
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• 16:33
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• 16:33
  having
• 16:33
  you
• 16:33
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• 16:33
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• 16:33
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• 16:34
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• 16:34
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• 16:34
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• 16:34
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• 16:34
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• 16:35
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• 16:35
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• 16:35
  again
• 16:35
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• 16:35
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• 16:36
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• 16:36
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• 16:36
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• 16:37
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• 16:37
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• 16:37
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• 16:37
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• 16:39
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• 16:39
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• 16:39
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• 16:39
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