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#152: Hellraiser (1987) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? We have such sights to show you.
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  Welcome to watch at least favorite scary movie podcast
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  where we talk about, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the
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  has its fanbase even and when we don't always get it, my name is
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  Travis. My name is Jessie.
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  And today, we have another special episode for everybody
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  because we're talking Hellraiser and it's also our patreon voted
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  episode in this month, you eat. It is.
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  Yes, are other options? Wasn't it psycho?
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  It was. Yeah, I was yes, it was between
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  this and psycho, so, and this one out.
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  Yeah. So we're going to be talking
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  about Hellraiser today. But before we get into that, do
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  you have any announcements at just to remind you that this
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  month, our theme Is pride month. So all of our movie choices have
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  some sort of connection to LGBT populations, issues concerns
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  Etc. Either by theming readings of
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  the movie, you know, General perception of the movie cast
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  crew members. You know, that's what we're
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  trying to do. We are taking all of our
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  proceeds, from patreon for the month of June.
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  We're going to match it with our own funds, and we're donating
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  that to the Trevor Project. In front of the podcast, Robert
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  atone has generously offered to donate a signed copy of each one
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  of his books to the individual who contributes, who donates the
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  most to the Trevor Project on their own.
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  So you can either send screenshots of proof of that to
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  us or directly to him. And he's information is in the
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  show notes. Yeah, yeah.
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  So that's the biggest thing about this month, that's it.
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  Okay. Cool.
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  Well before we get into the movie, I have our poll results.
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  So we were talking about what was the best pilots in chania?
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  Attention was last week's episode.
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  So high is a different word in French, but tension is not.
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  We don't talk about that in the moment.
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  You know, we didn't did we. Yeah, it's about how to
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  pronounce Haute, but like we have never heard talk about
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  tension. I don't know if it is a thing.
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  I mean, I don't fucking understand any of that.
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  Okay. So our poll was Luckily just how
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  did you feel about the Twist and Instagram?
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  I think we're going to be surprised by this because okay,
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  what were the options? O KZ ball.
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  Before you feel the options are hate it.
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  Love it and impossible, but don't care.
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  Okay, so on Instagram, 8% hated this twist, 75%, love the twist.
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  17% find it, implausible, but they don't care.
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  Okay. And on Twitter, 44% hate it 44%.
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  Love it. 12%, find it implausible, but they don't
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  care. Okay, okay.
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  So I think this this week, Twitter actually speak into my
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  soul kind of its like, its split 50/50, but overall, it's more in
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  favor because impossible. But don't care, that's where I'm
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  at. And, you know, I enjoy the movie
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  even though the twist is kind of just there, but, you know, I
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  don't love it, I don't hate it, but I enjoy the rest of the
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  movie Enough. To the point that it doesn't
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  influence me at all and we know where you see.
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  Yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm not gonna listen to
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  last week's episode again. If you need me to reiterate it,
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  or you haven't listened yet, it's actually a pretty fun
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  episode. Yeah, I liked it.
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  It was good. Okay, let's get into another fun
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  episode. Then let's talk about
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  Hellraiser, which kind of the same setup as last week's where
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  you win. Yeah, you went into this one.
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  Not really liking it. I don't know if I'll say hate it
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  but you've been a vocal a Outs your dislike of Hellraiser with
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  me in the past. Yeah.
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  So and I've always liked it. I've never not watch this movie
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  and not been entertained. So, I'm curious to see how the
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  conversation goes this time. Okay.
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  Do you want my statistics now or later?
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  Go ahead and do the now. That's okay.
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  Let's just get it all the way. I think this week.
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  It makes more sense because I've been trying to kind of tie them
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  into the movie and some way, and I went on a journey with this
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  one and it really doesn't actually relate to the movie
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  now. Well, the reason we chose Chose
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  this one. This month is because the
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  director yeah I mean I don't think we really need to say.
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  Yeah, he's gay. Yeah, I mean very openly gay.
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  We don't need to say it but I do think we need to say.
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  It is pride month and he's gay. Well I mean that was the yeah
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  that was. Yeah we're highlighting these
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  people. It's just make making it aware.
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  So we watch the last Drive in version of this on shutter and
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  at one point Joe Bob said something about the facts that
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  this movie got Clive, Barker put on the list.
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  Of the 100 most influential gay. Britain's a list.
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  I was immediately curious about but not curious enough to do
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  more than a quick Google search like I tried a couple different
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  terms, it didn't show up, that doesn't mean this list doesn't
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  exist. It just means that I don't know
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  what it's called enough and I just maybe it's his.
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  Yeah, Jo Bob's personal. This is easy to do.
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  Don't have a list of like most influential game anything.
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  Yeah. So, while I was searching that I
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  came across, and this is the the io nerd.
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  In me kind of McKinsey & Company.
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  They are Consulting Group, they have an ongoing study about
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  women in the workplace and they did a specific article right up,
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  whatever about lgbtq+, mostly women in the workplace, but they
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  do like briefly touch on other folks.
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  Okay. So again, this isn't Really,
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  really related to the movie. But I thought that the
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  information was interesting and I think it's also important to
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  talk about the impacts of like, microaggression bigotry, Etc.
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  What not? How it?
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  Like impacts a person's daily life if they're experiencing
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  them. Okay, so the study and of
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  course, I will put, I will link the article in the show notes
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  below. It's called how the lgbtq+
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  community fairs in the workplace.
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  It was published Three years ago and it was by Diana Ellsworth in
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  a Mehndi and Gavin's Sullivan, they have ongoing research about
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  women in the workplace but lgbtq+ women.
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  For example are more underrepresented than women
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  generally in America's largest corporations just for openly
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  lgbtq+, CEOs had these corporations, only one of whom
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  is female and none of whom is trans.
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  So and again, a lot of people like to say that that just means
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  that these, they hired the right person for the job, But we
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  shouldn't look at things like that but when you have a bias
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  against a person or group of people, it really can impact who
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  you're willing to hire. Yeah, I can see.
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  Yeah, that's important to keep in mind, academic estimates have
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  found that 5.1 percent of us women identify as lgbtq plus as
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  do. Three point, nine percent of
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  u.s. men, the representation in Corporate America, however, is
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  much lower than these levels. Resent ation of lgbtq plus 1 and
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  starts to drop off off beginning with the first promotion to the
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  manager level while lgbtq+ women make up 2.3 percent of
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  entry-level employees. They comprise only a 1.6 percent
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  of managers and even smaller shares of more senior levels,
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  this under-representation increases the likelihood that
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  lgbtq+, women will feel isolated at work with.
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  So few, others like them, they are more likely to represent
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  their entire group when they're the only one like themselves at
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  meetings or events. So that talks about the
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  tokenization Happen to an lgbtq+ person in the workplace they
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  become like the token gay or the token trans person or whatever
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  and it's like, hey it's pride month.
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  Do you want to be on a poster maybe?
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  So yeah, it's it's a thing lgbtq+, women especially by
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  sexual ones. Also experience more micro
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  aggressions like Carrington meaning remarks about them, or
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  people like them, I'm on a below deck binge and there is a very
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  Uncomfortable moment earlier as I was on my little stationary
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  bike and I went he did not and Travis was like wait, what did
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  he say? I was like I'm not repeating it
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  so you know, I gathered one. Yes it was.
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  Yes, yeah, yeah. Compared with straight women and
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  straight men bisexual, women are thirteen and Twenty Eight
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  percentage points. Respectively more likely to have
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  experienced microagressions so well, yeah, you know what?
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  I can tell you one thing though, quite Barker.
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  Spoke very Finally about his time here.
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  So he didn't experience any, you know, microagressions or, I mean
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  he could have soul experience microaggressions.
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  And I'm sure he chose to spoke about the positive points of
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  his. Yeah, sure.
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  But you know, I'm just putting a lighter spin on things here
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  because that's, you know, not exactly fun.
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  We're going van, Jesse, we're going to hell and supposed to be
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  fun. Oh yeah.
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  They did mention that a few times none of it looked
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  particularly fun so. Well, it's supposed to be and he
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  Had a fun time there. I just want one of the movies
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  for somebody to figure out the configuration that sends them to
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  Heaven. I don't know if that's a thing.
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  Well, because it says like this box, if you saw that, it can
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  send you the pleasures of either heaven or hell.
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  Yeah. But they're also Angels or
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  demons depending on who you are. So maybe it's their version of
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  Heaven. Maybe it's like an a you
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  pinhead. Like instead of instead of like
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  pins in his school. It's like a you alternate
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  universe. Oh Why did you bring the key
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  alternate universe? Because I just do that sometimes
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  like I don't know maybe it's like puppies.
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  All over them. It's sick.
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  He's got puppies coming from his head.
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  It's possible. I don't know possible.
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  I mean, that could be your Heaven.
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  That that would be me if I was the priest is sand.
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  The limit configure, it's called The Limit configuration.
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  Let's be real. Yeah, it's sad.
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  Yes, okay. Anyways, okay, let's get into
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  the details of this one. So, Hellraiser came out,
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  September 18th 1987 we watched it on.
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  Daddy's shutter, daddy Shadow and it's available.
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  As of June, 18th 2023 on Amazon Prime, AMC plus, 2B shutter,
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  Pluto. You can watch this like for free
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  or paid. It's just available.
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  It's not hard to find, yes. But if you have to rinse it, you
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  can rent it on red box for a dollar 99 or you can go to
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  Amazon or YouTube for to 99. So it's all cheap.
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  It's all gravy baby. It was written and directed by
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  Clive. Barker music by Christopher,
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  Young special effects makeup, by Bob Keane, who is only in his
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  mid-20s when he did this. And apparently has worked on a
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  lot of high-profile things like the original Star Wars Trilogy.
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  Yeah. Well you come out the gate with
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  this kind of shit. Well, this isn't about the gay.
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  If it was the original Star Wars Trilogy was beforehand.
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  Oh, I missed you say, the original Star Wars.
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  That's what I read that, we originally.
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  Yeah. So yeah.
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  You do star. Well, he also I did some Jim
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  Henson stuff to wait. If he was in his mid-20s, maybe
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  it was in his mid-20s when he did Star Wars, okay.
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  I think I might have math ain't math.
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  And yeah, I might have doubled it up just a tad bit there.
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  All right, the cast. We have introducing Ashley
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  warrants playing Kirsty. Andrew Robinson, playing Valeri.
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  Clare Higgins as Julia, Sean Chapman, as Frank, and for the
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  pinheads, I've got all of the names here, because I wasn't
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  really sure what the names of each one, where the sun It's
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  what I call in the pinheads know.
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  It's like, that's famous. Yeah.
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  Bradley yeah. It's an advice.
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  Yeah. Okay, so I thought you were
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  gonna say for all of the Franks since there.
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  There's a small. Yeah, flashback Frank.
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  Um, he's the same dude. 5-pack Frank is the same as like
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  present, Frank know like gooey Frank.
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  They said it was actually a different person.
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  That's just needed somebody super skinny for the Press.
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  That's just the guy that's crawling around on the floor.
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  Okay. Was he actually is standing
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  upright smoking, cigarettes. We're in white jackets.
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  Okay? That's just like the same dude.
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  And then there's also the voiceover.
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  Yes, because Shawn Chapman is far too British for the mid
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  movie, mid production decision to place it in America, get
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  ahead of you. So I know I know this is not the
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  fun facts part right here. Okay but yeah I didn't I didn't
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  get who dubbed and I did find skinny Frank Kern gooey Frank.
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  Maybe I should call him but you know, he's like - Frank you a
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  cross. On for like 5 Seconds seemed
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  like rolls around on the ground and called us being frank.
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  Thanks Frank. Yeah, because he looked like
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  coming out of the floor. He looks like the thing he did.
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  Yeah. And then when he is like as like
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  a GUI man, he kind of looks like tar, man.
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  Yeah, I thought that too. Yeah.
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  So, but no, I just got Shawn Chapman because that's, that's
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  our frame. That's who we see the most.
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  And yeah. So okay.
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  So for the Senate by its, we have Doug Bradley who plays
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  Pinhead or help. Nice.
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  Yeah, Nicholas. Vince who plays chatterer Simon.
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  Bamford who plays Butterball or who I like to call Cielo B?
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  Because he's like Cee, Lo Green got that you see little bite.
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  I think it's a good name for him and then the final one is Grace
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  Kirby, who plays I couldn't find a true name for her.
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  It's just listed as female cenobite, but I've also seen It
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  is named open /, deep throat, I would prefer that because all of
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  the other one, I know they didn't even talk about fucking
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  microaggressions in the workplace.
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  What do you got to say for yourself?
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  Clive, what are you doing there? He's the micro aggressor.
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  I don't know. I so deep throat.
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  I think it's the name of it. I'm not 100% sure.
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  I'm sure they explore that more in the sequence.
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  I can't remember if they go into that, I know they go into their
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  backstory in the second one. One.
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  Yeah but I don't remember to what extent I remember Pinhead
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  is like a little military boy. Yeah that's all I remember.
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  All right. Jesse budgeter Buck said bug
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  Ted. Yes absolutely.
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  Booked it. This games, a little less fun
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  when I watch. Yeah he's supposed to go into
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  the budget but he did he went and it was 1 million dollars.
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  Opening box office is 4.5 million worldwide gross, 14.5
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  million, IMDb score of six point nine.
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  Okay, that's rude. And needs to be seven, at least
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  six point nine like that at 669. Yeah, okay, maybe people are
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  doing that, like yeah, okay, it's organized, okay.
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  So I pick three movies from 1987 and I do have a theme, okay,
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  it's fucked up romances. All right, that works.
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  So the first one, the stepfather that came out June 5th, 1987,
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  hmm, don't have a budget. Okay, but it grows 2.5 million
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  dollars and it has a 6.7 on IMDb.
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  Okay, that's another last drive-in movie.
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  That's what I was going to say. I don't think we've actually
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  watched it. I think we missed that episode.
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  We were, we won't caught like the end of it.
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  Yeah. I can't remember what was going
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  on. We were busy that night and then
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  we just saw me went to karaoke. They might have been that.
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  Yeah, some of you, some of you Coworkers some of my co-workers.
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  Oh no. Oh, yeah, maybe actually, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we haven't really watched it.
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  But I know the whole thing about that is it's like a fucked-up
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  relationship. Next up.
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  We've seen the other two and that I think you're going to be
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  very big fans of these, okay? So first one summer Party
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  Massacre to yeah, that released October 16th 1987, I think all
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  of the romances in that are fucked up to everybody.
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  The only thing anybody is truly there but it's mostly The
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  rockabilly guy because he's kind of like going after her.
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  I think that there's like he's wanting her.
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  Stop, love you, exactly. Yeah.
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  It seems about and everything. They had a budget of 500,000
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  worldwide, gross of 1.3 million and an IMDb score of 4.0 food.
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  Yeah, but tragic, but I get it deplorable.
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  Okay, well, hold on. Now, the third one, Silent
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  Night. Deadly night to yes.
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  I don't have the release date for that one but the budget was
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  250,000 dollars. Okay, the worldwide gross was a
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  hundred and fifty four thousand dollars and it has a 3.8 on
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  IMDb. All right you know what 3.8 on
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  IMDb a 10.0 in our hearts. Yeah so I think that one, you
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  know what, you also managed to pick movies that Are all driving
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  special episodes to shit. I did.
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  Well, that's cool. I mean, the romance is in that
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  one, he goes on the whole Killing Spree because his
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  girlfriend gets killed right? Well, because he found out that
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  she'd had sex with because her girlfriend.
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  And then, yeah, he kills her and then he kills her boyfriend.
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  He just, he kills a lot of people.
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  He kills a man that's just trying to take out his trash.
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  I've been stay, we do have like a framed poster size.
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  Signed by the artist, the guy that did the screen factory
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  color. Yeah, that was really cool.
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  I forgot. He was at scare fest.
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  It's right in my eye line right now.
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  Yeah, okay. So I've got like four ish five
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  taglines. One of them.
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  There's two of them that are on the poster.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  So that's what we're going with for.
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  So at the top, it says demon to some Angel to others, which I
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  think kind of answers your question from before.
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  Like, it can either be heaven or hell too.
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  But to some people, you know who are into that shit, that's
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  probably having like Frank like, Frank wolf that shit I think
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  until the part where he exploded, I mean, but that's
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  like you know, the full climax right there, right?
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  I mean, come on like either way. All right.
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  The bottom part says, he'll tear your soul apart.
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  I think that's the part where he stopped loving it, yam and his
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  soul actually blew up and got torn apart.
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  Can I have an aside here a second?
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  Okay. So during the anniversary Drive,
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  I've in Marathon one year, I decided that I was going to
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  poorly Photoshop. Talia into all of the movie
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  posters or scenes from the movie.
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  And the one where I did the poster for this kind of makes me
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  laugh. The most because of the tagline,
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  angel demon to some major together because like the
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  picture I have it first that way, she'd fit over Pinhead
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  said, her ears are back so she looks like she's in trouble.
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  That's your age. Yeah, it's just Talia.
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  It's just like I will lick your soul apart.
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  Okay, so the next tag line, there are no limits.
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  That's you know what? Yeah, yeah yeah it's not fun.
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  Whatever accurate though. I like this one Satan's done
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  Waitin and that's with an apostrophe.
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  I am.'. No G.
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  Well yeah, exciting climbs. I'm gonna, he's a professional
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  writer. He's not going to leave off that
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  Gene. Let you think that it was an
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  accident that's like this is I meant to do it this way.
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  That's just sounds Southern Satan's done.
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  Waiting in the final we have such sights to show you.
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  I mean that one I feel like that should have been on the poster
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  like that. There's like it's a fucking
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  movie. We have a lot to show you.
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  Yeah. You know what I mean?
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  Yeah, it makes sense. Why I chose that.
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  So opening quote yeah. I mean I think it works the best
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  personally that cuz also like all right well I'm gonna go make
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  some coffee. It's probably too like obscure
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  have a quote. Yeah, okay, so I've got some fun
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  facts. I know that you listen to a lot
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  of this stuff on the episode last night, but I also pulled
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  things that you didn't hear, okay?
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  So it's a little bit new for all and for all of us.
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  Okay. All right, so this was quite
• 20:54
  Barker's first time directing he did This because his previous
• 20:58
  two films that were adapted were done.
• 21:00
  So poorly that he wanted to actually do it himself because
• 21:03
  if you want it done, right, you gotta do it yourself.
• 21:05
  Yes. He chose how a razor?
• 21:07
  Because the story lends itself to a low-budget nature or bug
• 21:11
  Ted nature. I should say, I love that.
• 21:14
  I, yeah, they recognizes it. Yes.
• 21:16
  And those smart, and this right here, kind of should check boxes
• 21:20
  for you, because he chose it because it's mostly set in one
• 21:23
  location and you will have single location.
• 21:27
  Horror movies now it does explore a little bit but really
• 21:30
  all of the shots outside of the house or like just like five
• 21:35
  seconds or maybe like 30 MOS. So it's based off of the novella
• 21:40
  the Hellbound heart. And there were a bunch of
• 21:44
  potential names that this could have had whenever they were
• 21:48
  choosing what to call this. Yeah.
• 21:49
  So it would have been either the Hellbound heart.
• 21:52
  I could have also been Hellbound.
• 21:54
  Okay quite Barker suggested. Add sadomasochist from Beyond
• 21:59
  the Grave. I would love that, but it would,
• 22:01
  it would fully be like in cult movie status.
• 22:06
  Yeah, eternity. If you did that, well it sounds
• 22:09
  like one of those movies that was part of Scream 3 that her
• 22:14
  mom was a part of, which is even funnier because this is Roger
• 22:18
  corman's production. Yeah, did this new world
• 22:20
  pictures? I like to imagine that like,
• 22:22
  Roger Corman was like Clive. I agree with you on that, but I
• 22:26
  got a lot of Not cool with it. We're outnumbered this time.
• 22:32
  Sorry for Hellraisers. What they always move?
• 22:35
  Went with because it was suggested by somebody, but
• 22:37
  another person on said suggested a potential name, could have
• 22:40
  been what a woman will do for a good fuck.
• 22:44
  Which I like that. Yeah.
• 22:45
  Which is essentially, the story. Basically.
• 22:47
  A lot of those movies sound like they're either Lifetime movies
• 22:51
  or like they're whatever the weird.
• 22:53
  Christian Netflix is. Yeah, fuck.
• 22:57
  What do they call an unrighteous gemstones?
• 22:59
  I can't remember. OG, 0.
• 23:00
  DB, yeah, Jody. That's okay.
• 23:04
  So after they film the movie, nor New World convinced, Qui
• 23:08
  have to change the setting to the United States, to make it
• 23:11
  more appealing to, you know, a wider release.
• 23:15
  It really just made it fucking confusing.
• 23:17
  It did because they have conflicting statements and
• 23:20
  scenes in there, so it's weird. But they went with it, which
• 23:25
  means that they had to All of Sean Chapman's Lions, who is
• 23:29
  Frank? So he did, he sounded way too
• 23:32
  British which I don't really feel like that's much of an
• 23:36
  issue because British people exist here.
• 23:38
  So I don't think I would have ever questioned it.
• 23:40
  You know, I would have only question it if they didn't, also
• 23:45
  let Larry be British. Yeah, I well.
• 23:48
  And then Kirstie Alley's don't really British, he's still
• 23:51
  sounds pretty American. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 23:54
  Like maybe have to have it, right?
• 23:56
  Or the other. Other yeah, I guess so.
• 23:58
  Yeah, you're right. But no I could see it like
• 24:01
  becoming a distribution problem in America because Americans are
• 24:06
  pigs in a phobic. I mean you said it not me.
• 24:13
  All right, so Doug Bradley struggled doing his scenes in
• 24:17
  this because they gave him those black contacts and he couldn't
• 24:21
  really see well, and he was afraid of tripping over his gown
• 24:25
  the entire time. So he struggled hitting his X
• 24:29
  feel like it barely moves though.
• 24:31
  I know most of the time he's just like standing there.
• 24:33
  Looking intimidating. That's probably why he's doing
• 24:36
  that. Maybe he was supposed to be all
• 24:38
  over the place but instead he couldn't because you just can't
• 24:40
  see any was afraid is going to trip.
• 24:42
  Yeah. The engineer, which is that
• 24:45
  giant monster thing? The chase is Christy, I think at
• 24:48
  the end or at the end is, like the creepy maggot, baby.
• 24:52
  It's a thing where she goes through the hall.
• 24:54
  And it. Chases are thinking Mega baby?
• 24:56
  Yeah, I think it's the Engineer because that's the only other
• 24:58
  thing that got a name and I got the names for all the cenobites
• 25:01
  so because we also have the crooked man who turns into a oh
• 25:05
  yeah. Well he's dragging skeleton at
• 25:07
  the end. He's just like a normal man.
• 25:09
  Is he? He turns into a dragon skeleton
• 25:11
  after. Yeah.
• 25:12
  What is waiting? I'm solid because what's he?
• 25:14
  Like a fucking cynic by the entire time?
• 25:16
  Just like roaming Earth. I don't like what was what was
• 25:20
  that fucking thing? I forgot about that until you
• 25:23
  just mentioned him. Ya know the engineer was It
• 25:27
  difficult for them to maneuver, you can actually see them behind
• 25:31
  it and that scene, you can see their legs pushing it from
• 25:34
  behind. They were like, really, really
• 25:36
  limited with this. Because, I mean, Cuevas very,
• 25:40
  you know, knew he struggled. And he said that everybody was
• 25:44
  really kind working with him even though he was very an
• 25:47
  experience. He said that like, he just
• 25:50
  didn't. Yeah, they're like ask everybody
• 25:52
  everything and he just didn't know what things looked like in
• 25:55
  the Joe Bob thing. He said he tried to check out.
• 25:57
  Out books from the library. Yeah you try to check out books
• 26:01
  on how to direct and they were all checked out so he can do it.
• 26:05
  The woman configuration was very fragile, it was constructed from
• 26:09
  wood and cut out brass and the person that's constructed.
• 26:13
  It Simon Says would often way beneath the Sinha B in the
• 26:19
  scenes, in case it were dropped. Because if it were dropped, that
• 26:22
  means he would take another eight hours to have to construct
• 26:26
  a brand new one. And at the end of the movie they
• 26:29
  ran out of budget. So that's why it looks the way
• 26:33
  it does. And apparently a lot of people
• 26:35
  complained about it. I personally love it.
• 26:36
  I think it looks great. Clive said that him?
• 26:40
  And some Greek guy as he phrases.
• 26:42
  It worked on the animation. Over a single weekend and he
• 26:45
  says it looks really good. Considering how much we drink
• 26:47
  during that process. Okay, I was going to say.
• 26:50
  How does he not even know this man's name?
• 26:51
  But that answer that. Yeah, so yeah, that's it.
• 26:56
  That's all the The information I have for this movie.
• 26:59
  So let's go on into our good bad, ugly answered suggesting
• 27:04
  you eat this off. What did you like about it this
• 27:06
  time around? Okay, so first of all, I'm a fan
• 27:11
  of Clive Barker, I haven't read this particular Novella but when
• 27:16
  I was in middle school, high school, I don't know.
• 27:20
  My mind, one of the things she would do for me for Christmas.
• 27:22
  Wish she would just get me like a big bag of books.
• 27:25
  Hmm. Actually, I think you would like
• 27:26
  these And that's how I eventually got started on the
• 27:29
  abarat series, which is a young adult series written by Clive
• 27:34
  Barker and illustrated by his husband.
• 27:36
  So, I was, you know, I've been a fan of him and then also, like
• 27:42
  he didn't direct, but he produced Candyman, and I just
• 27:45
  like, has been repeatedly. One of the movies that scares
• 27:49
  the shit out of me every time I watch it.
• 27:53
  So I've got a lot of respect for him and I think that At this
• 27:58
  movie for the most part tells a good story.
• 28:02
  There are things like Cricket man.
• 28:04
  Yeah, and I don't think Steve ever gets a name until the very
• 28:08
  end. Yeah.
• 28:09
  I was going to say, like I never knew what his name.
• 28:12
  I kept writing guy. Yes, that is kind of clunky when
• 28:17
  you think about it. Yeah.
• 28:18
  So I think and I think maybe some of that was just like,
• 28:21
  first time director trying to learn how to adapt his like book
• 28:24
  to screen. Yeah, I could see it, which I
• 28:26
  think is also a Isn't he shows a novella instead of a full novels
• 28:30
  that way? Didn't he didn't have to like
• 28:31
  worry about, like paring down? Yeah, it's like cutting it
• 28:35
  cutting out things. Yeah.
• 28:36
  Definitely. And also like the effects are
• 28:39
  just insane. Yeah, that really practical
• 28:42
  effects they do is just it's insane there.
• 28:45
  I love the piece of the beginning where there's just
• 28:47
  like, we're Pinhead comes out and is putting the face kind of
• 28:51
  together so he can look in his eyes because we have a facial
• 28:55
  prosthetic. We bought off of a Director at
• 28:57
  scare fest last year and it just kind of shows in this room.
• 29:00
  So I have ever seen. Yeah, exactly this all that
• 29:03
  seen. It does look exactly like, yeah,
• 29:06
  real, yeah. So it's got a lot of really good
• 29:10
  points and I think that I like that this movie wasn't really
• 29:12
  afraid to go there. Yeah.
• 29:14
  It was willing to push the bound bounds of like you know, a story
• 29:19
  that maybe you don't necessarily hear so often.
• 29:22
  Yeah, I'm sure the like, especially for its time.
• 29:25
  It was super. Yeah.
• 29:26
  Like it's Sexy and it's bloody. And those are things that tend
• 29:30
  to not go over well with ratings boards.
• 29:32
  So yeah, the fact that he got is away with as much as he did.
• 29:37
  It was pretty heavily censored upon release.
• 29:40
  I mean, we saw Frank's wiener little bit.
• 29:44
  Yeah, we did. I'm sure I wonder if you were
• 29:46
  able to see it back in the day so easily, you know, like,
• 29:49
  especially like England. They were like, they were the
• 29:53
  ones that did the video nasties. Yeah.
• 29:55
  So they're very Big on censorship over there.
• 29:58
  Yeah. So I just like, I have a lot of
• 30:01
  respect for this movie. Okay.
• 30:04
  That's good to know. Yeah, I agree with a lot of what
• 30:08
  you said. I think that this movie, it's
• 30:11
  has a lot of things to be afraid of because yeah, you can be
• 30:15
  afraid of Justice in a b and I know that they kind of steal the
• 30:17
  show for one people, but I think Julia's character and Frank two
• 30:20
  are both very terrifying in her own way too.
• 30:24
  She's definitely supposed to be the main villain.
• 30:27
  And I think, or you could see as Frank as he's like The
• 30:30
  Mastermind behind everything but she's the one that actually
• 30:33
  executes everything. And she's the one that's playing
• 30:36
  Larry. And Kirstie is like immediately
• 30:41
  unsettled by her. She doesn't really trust her
• 30:43
  from the beginning. Yeah, I've always seen her as
• 30:46
  like the main antagonist of this thing but this movie, especially
• 30:50
  one of her like she is like a Team Rocket situation where is
• 30:53
  like a bunch of people, Julie Anne Frank, as I could team.
• 30:57
  Yeah, I guess I could see that. Yeah, well, I mean there's like
• 31:01
  multiple layers to it because there's also like, Betrayal on
• 31:03
  her part to query which is also like another.
• 31:06
  It's, I don't know. I feel like she has more evil
• 31:08
  going. She has more range with hers.
• 31:11
  Everybody else is kind of like straight to the point, like,
• 31:14
  Frank and the cenobites are all there for like their own
• 31:17
  gratification. Yeah, she's there for her own
• 31:19
  gratification and I don't know. I feel like that it's more away
• 31:24
  toward for her because she has a lot more going on.
• 31:27
  Yeah. Yeah, cuz she's we're watching a
• 31:31
  little bit more of her Downfall with it.
• 31:33
  I mean, obviously, she's already cheated on break so there's
• 31:36
  already, you know, are Larry. Yeah, I guess both of them time
• 31:40
  depending on. Yeah.
• 31:42
  Depending on which brother you are, but I do think that like,
• 31:46
  we're kind of watching her decide like, Do I want to be a
• 31:50
  murderer that dick free good though?
• 31:53
  G kind of eases into the murder Persona pretty seamlessly.
• 31:58
  I don't. Yeah.
• 31:59
  It's not much of a. It doesn't take a lot to get her
• 32:02
  know, it doesn't. But then again, I guess like
• 32:04
  wherever you see, like somebody come up from like a pool of
• 32:08
  blood from the for and I can tell you to do something like
• 32:12
  all bets are off on your life at that point.
• 32:14
  Like you start to really question what is the purpose of
• 32:17
  your own morality? It puts a warrant It's, that's
• 32:20
  for sure. Another good thing about this,
• 32:23
  that I think that the atmosphere is pretty crazy.
• 32:25
  When this invites do arrive, like, the sound design of like,
• 32:29
  the clanking of all the things, as it's like, banging around
• 32:32
  whenever, like, you have like, the board with all of, like, the
• 32:35
  pieces of people, like, where everybody's been swayed and all
• 32:37
  of the tools and stuff. And when the hooks come out and
• 32:41
  they just, like, grab onto these people.
• 32:42
  I do want to say that like, watching you play dead by
• 32:44
  daylight today and the the villain and the match your
• 32:48
  playing was Yeah, was Pinhead and like, it was just the
• 32:52
  attacks. Were just chains.
• 32:54
  Appearing midair. That's pretty doodle.
• 32:56
  He was fucking tall. Oh shit.
• 33:01
  And then I got chased by Michael later.
• 33:03
  Yeah, that was good crazy. You got carried over Michael
• 33:05
  shoulder. Yeah.
• 33:07
  Naughty baby. I'm very new to dead by day away
• 33:10
  and I was Jesse was experiencing a lot of this stuff and it was
• 33:15
  kind of scary. I was not expecting it to be
• 33:17
  that creepy, but yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't know this
• 33:21
  movie, I think it's very good at unsettling and there's a lot to
• 33:26
  it. It's got that romance like
• 33:28
  nature to it all. So that kind of makes it
• 33:31
  upsetting and it's an all kinds of different ways, okay?
• 33:34
  So the bad, I just don't feel the tension with this movie.
• 33:40
  I just don't I like and I try want to like these movies but I
• 33:45
  just don't, there's something about it.
• 33:48
  That doesn't Grab me and pull me in is very much a movie.
• 33:53
  I don't mind having on in the background, but like, you never
• 33:57
  gonna sit down be like, I want to watch Hellraiser.
• 34:01
  Like it's just, it doesn't, it's got its moments that are really
• 34:06
  good, but like as a full movie, I just, I struggle with it.
• 34:10
  I think. And and I can't even really
• 34:12
  fully pinpoint. Why, I think a big part of it is
• 34:14
  because I don't necessarily feel that tension throughout.
• 34:17
  Okay. I think it's about how you, how
• 34:20
  you go, how you approach it? Because like, oh no, I feel like
• 34:23
  people. And I'm not saying this as you,
• 34:25
  but people will probably go into this and want to see like the
• 34:29
  sender by it's because they think that they're going to be
• 34:30
  the star of the show but like really whenever you're watching
• 34:33
  it like it's kind of like it's not really it's like a horror
• 34:38
  movie but also like there's like a drama to it.
• 34:41
  Also I was pleasantly surprised the first time watching it that
• 34:45
  it wasn't because I mean obviously I'd known about
• 34:48
  Pinhead before I watched Hell Raiser for the first time so I
• 34:50
  was pleasantly surprised that I wasn't just like all immediately
• 34:52
  like cenobites yeah I'm not bothered by that.
• 34:55
  I actually kind of like like this more psychological horror
• 34:59
  of what's going on between Julian Frank.
• 35:01
  Like yeah, I find that really intriguing.
• 35:05
  There's just something about the execution of it.
• 35:08
  I struggle with okay, and I don't know if it's because like,
• 35:12
  I just there aren't enough characters to really care about
• 35:18
  because most of the screen time is dedicated to Julie early on
• 35:23
  and Julia early on and she's like, she's not white bull.
• 35:27
  She's got almost no redeeming qualities until she begs.
• 35:30
  Eggs for Larry's life. Yeah, and it's kind of like why
• 35:33
  couldn't I've seen this side of her from the beginning?
• 35:37
  I see it as like, I connect the characters like seeing how Frank
• 35:46
  we're not necessarily front but I like wearing like his
• 35:49
  interactions with joy and then her interactions with Kirstie,
• 35:55
  okay? I'll just be like the whole
• 35:56
  dynamic and see it all play out. Like I don't really think it's
• 35:59
  tense but like it definitely hits you on like a level.
• 36:02
  That like I find engaging it's it's interesting it's like
• 36:07
  watching it is kind of like watching.
• 36:09
  A drama almost and that has horror elements to it, which is
• 36:13
  nice because I feel like when the horror actually does come
• 36:16
  like a catches you off-guard sometimes and like that makes it
• 36:19
  more effective instead of like focusing on the things that are
• 36:25
  visually horrifying or like some of the other Concepts that they
• 36:28
  could have easily focused on more to try and like milk it for
• 36:32
  that. But they didn't they like what
• 36:34
  the story play out organically and I can understand that
• 36:37
  there's not a whole lot of tension there with that.
• 36:39
  That's the thing that was that, like they let the story play out
• 36:42
  organically but like it almost feels like the novella is
• 36:46
  supplemental reading with it. Like you need to read it to get
• 36:50
  some more of the context necessarily feel that I've never
• 36:53
  read it. All right?
• 36:54
  I don't know. I just like I mean I can tell
• 36:56
  that there's bits and pieces of this thing there.
• 36:58
  It's kind of like, I don't know, like seltzer water like the
• 37:03
  flavor and seltzer water just that, I hate so much because
• 37:06
  it's just like a hint of a fruit flavor, but it's not like a as
• 37:09
  much as I want. That's how I feel about this
• 37:11
  movie. Okay, I can see that.
• 37:13
  Um, I mean, I don't really feel like there's a whole lot bad
• 37:16
  with us personally, but I think it would have been nice to flush
• 37:20
  out some of these characters of a bit more like yeah.
• 37:22
  We don't really get much of that Steve guy.
• 37:24
  We don't really get much of like Kirsty and her situation to and
• 37:26
  you know what I mean? Yeah, actually she ends up being
• 37:29
  the final girl if you want to call her that but like, she's
• 37:33
  just kind of like there. Yeah.
• 37:35
  She I don't know. I don't really get her.
• 37:40
  I really get her as being the Savior, but it ends up becoming
• 37:44
  her. She's the one that is able to
• 37:45
  solve the configuration and defeats the cenobites and leads
• 37:49
  them to Frank and, you know, like it's enjoyable watching it
• 37:54
  back. I would, you know, it would have
• 37:55
  been nice to have built her up and to be like more.
• 37:59
  Yeah, because you just don't get enough of her.
• 38:02
  I think that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like the most we
• 38:07
  get is like from Julia. Yeah, we go.
• 38:09
  Mostly all from Julia. Yeah, the movies.
• 38:12
  Crystals, a very villain heavy movie.
• 38:14
  Yeah, it is, yeah, it's all over the place with who with follows,
• 38:18
  which is like it. I think that might be part of
• 38:20
  the reason that I don't necessarily feel the tension
• 38:22
  because it's like, yeah, we know Murder is bad.
• 38:24
  But like we're not seeing these Stakes of good versus evil here,
• 38:27
  right? We're just seeing like evil
• 38:29
  versus other evil. Yeah.
• 38:31
  Okay. Let's see them.
• 38:33
  Okay, ugly. Um, I mean I'm gonna say like
• 38:38
  there's several Ugly. That's Frank hitting on his nice
• 38:45
  movie, come to Daddy. That's upsetting to me in a very
• 38:51
  visceral kind of way. Yes, it's gross, it's gross.
• 38:55
  Yeah, I think all of the, like the cheating, the hurting all of
• 39:00
  the whirring these people in who are also kind of shitty to like
• 39:05
  and Frank. In general is just a very ugly
• 39:07
  person. Like he's so fucking selfish.
• 39:10
  Our meat and Juliet a bar, and she is the first thing I saw
• 39:14
  hearing very consensual. Yeah.
• 39:17
  The first suit kind of suck them but those when she was really
• 39:20
  nervous about the whole thing. Yeah.
• 39:22
  And then he was getting kind of like, you know, agitated or her
• 39:26
  for being uneasy. Yeah.
• 39:29
  Yeah. I guess you not necessarily them
• 39:31
  but like, I just don't like that pushiness but I'm saying like,
• 39:35
  I'm not going to fall these dudes for coming back to her
• 39:38
  house when she says, hey you want to come back?
• 39:39
  My place. Yeah.
• 39:41
  When they start getting pushy about the sex part.
• 39:43
  Yeah, that's a problem. It's mostly her.
• 39:44
  Yeah. She's the problem and Doug
• 39:48
  you're not Doug, fuck. All the names are getting
• 39:50
  confused. For me, Frank, I was like you
• 39:53
  last night, referring to Earl and Tremors is Fred.
• 39:56
  My, my name is Raja, okay, absurd the size of this fucking
• 40:03
  house. So there's just so much there,
• 40:06
  so many stairs. Yeah, so I'm really listening to
• 40:09
  an old Older cycle of probably Adam and the house they're in
• 40:14
  right now cycle 12, what up crossover listeners they talk
• 40:18
  about the house is just really bad for drama because there's
• 40:20
  just so many stairs. So we lose out on a lot of good
• 40:23
  like fights and moments and stuff like that because I can.
• 40:26
  And that's upstairs. Yeah because there's just there,
• 40:28
  people are so separated from each other because there's four
• 40:31
  flights of stairs on how I feel about this house, okay, it's
• 40:35
  just it's insane how large this house is and also how gross it
• 40:39
  is after It moved in. They really haven't done much to
• 40:42
  clean up the place. And it's sure, it's kind of
• 40:45
  upsetting to see how much how much crime still exists.
• 40:51
  And so many of the rooms, I don't really know how much time
• 40:56
  goes by in this movie but I mean they just moved into it and
• 41:00
  Frank was the one that was there and that guy didn't really seem
• 41:03
  like he gave a fuck still I give us his fucked in and that was a
• 41:08
  that was all was my absurd is for this and also the second
• 41:14
  one, because I've only seen those two.
• 41:16
  But for some reason, I feel like these people that are like
• 41:19
  gaining their bodies back, they like to wear white whenever
• 41:23
  they're at their most bloody so like they put on these white
• 41:26
  quotes and they're just staying. Everything is status symbol.
• 41:30
  Yeah, I don't know, it's just always weird to me that you're
• 41:33
  going to choose the one that is going to be more visible for
• 41:36
  that type of stuff. Like, put on black, I mean, I'm
• 41:39
  sure she killed guys with black clothes.
• 41:42
  You know, here's the thing, I know, like in universe that
• 41:46
  fully makes sense in the real world from like a production
• 41:50
  standpoint. I'm sure they did that to really
• 41:53
  contrast more heavily with the blood.
• 41:56
  I'm sure there was also there to make you uneasy because it makes
• 41:59
  you uneasy like the absence of skin and having something on top
• 42:04
  of that. Like, you can tell like what
• 42:06
  very sensitive. Says my nerve endings are
• 42:08
  starting to work again. N.
• 42:09
  Well then don't put on a tweed jacket fucknuts.
• 42:12
  Just gonna sting ya. Can't I can't fucking imagine
• 42:16
  having to wear something like that.
• 42:17
  With no skin on and just, he's just like grimacing through the
• 42:20
  entire thing, you, okay. So what do you rate this now?
• 42:30
  That's him. Okay, I respect it.
• 42:34
  I just don't personally love it. Mmm, so I give it a six, okay,
• 42:39
  that's better. And I was expecting honestly
• 42:41
  like I don't, I don't hate it. I think it's better than
• 42:45
  average. I just I need something more.
• 42:48
  I think I like this one a lot but I think two is the far
• 42:52
  superior film. This is a good one though.
• 42:55
  To like establish everything in the world, build in a way, it
• 42:58
  gets it. Introduces you to this universe
• 43:01
  and the woman, config a configuration, and what is
• 43:04
  capable of. And what the Senate by its are
• 43:07
  capable of And, you know, there's a lot of possibilities.
• 43:12
  So for this one right here, I think a good old age is perfect
• 43:16
  for it because it's very entertaining.
• 43:19
  It's a classic, there's a lot of good going forward, but it's one
• 43:24
  of those that definitely is improved upon immediately in the
• 43:26
  second movie. Well, you're getting your wish
• 43:28
  because our starting averages will seven.
• 43:30
  Yes. Alright, it bumped it up that
• 43:32
  point one. Nice.
• 43:34
  Okay. Alright, let's get into this,
• 43:38
  okay. So the opening credits are
• 43:41
  actually in the lament configure, I like that.
• 43:44
  I have to do it when the opening credits are like a part of the
• 43:48
  movie. Yeah.
• 43:49
  Usually perform its nice opening credits, it's good at setting
• 43:52
  the tone like, okay, cool. You guys did that right?
• 43:55
  All right. I'm ready for the rest of this.
• 43:56
  Yeah. So the limit configuration is
• 44:00
  actually being sold to Frank right now and he's at some kind
• 44:04
  of I don't even know where he's at.
• 44:06
  He's in like side another country.
• 44:08
  Yeah, they don't. Really.
• 44:10
  They spend absolutely like maybe 30 seconds on this whole setup
• 44:14
  here. Yes, he gets that.
• 44:16
  He's immediately and a dark room by himself, it's not dark.
• 44:20
  There's about 50 candles was about to say candles.
• 44:24
  Are there it said like no light on just candle lights and he
• 44:29
  solves the puzzle and then immediately is hooked and quad
• 44:33
  and flayed and dismembered and the fucking cenobites.
• 44:37
  Yes Hook Line and And sinkers. God damn it, Jesse.
• 44:43
  Yeah, this is an advisor there. And they, this is where they
• 44:46
  reassemble his face like you were talking about.
• 44:48
  Yeah, I really wanted him to like, say something to him like
• 44:52
  but instead just like the, like you're so far beneath me, look
• 44:56
  that he gives them. Yeah.
• 44:57
  And more devastating. Yeah.
• 44:59
  So that's how we're like this. How we start this movie.
• 45:02
  Like he solves it. They fucking shred him.
• 45:04
  And then this like, oh shit. Okay, what am I about to watch?
• 45:07
  Yep, all right. Two people enter the house.
• 45:12
  When is the brother of the person that we just saw get
• 45:14
  completely fucked up. His aim is weary and his are
• 45:20
  they why are they mean? Yeah.
• 45:21
  Okay his wife Julia is there with them, they're moving into
• 45:24
  the house and it's kind of a very bad State bronze.
• 45:29
  Eyeshadow all the way up to her eyebrows full garage doors.
• 45:33
  Going on. It's not a good like garage
• 45:35
  doors. Yeah, it's just like a solid
• 45:38
  color. From like, eyelid, all the way
• 45:40
  up to the eyebrow. No.
• 45:41
  Okay. Yeah, there's a guy, maggots and
• 45:45
  bowls, and shit like that. Like a freak weapon.
• 45:48
  Yeah. Frank left in a very nasty and
• 45:50
  I'm just going to say, if there's so many maggots, there
• 45:51
  should be more like flies and other bugs.
• 45:54
  Yeah, you should. I mean realistically?
• 45:56
  Yeah. Put the Magus fucking upsetting
• 45:59
  like those. Yeah.
• 45:59
  Setting tool catheter fly. But joy finds Frank's a little
• 46:04
  sex statue, which I think. I thought it's funny first, like
• 46:08
  it's just like two people. Like just straight up like
• 46:10
  having sex and I thought she just thought oh wow, this is
• 46:15
  cool. Like if I found that now so I
• 46:16
  moved into IB. Oh wow, this is amazing.
• 46:18
  It's like when we found the creepy.
• 46:19
  Yeah, campaign, exactly. Like I now realize later after
• 46:23
  watching, she's like, oh shit. That's Frank's yeah.
• 46:26
  So, you know Larry says he doesn't know where Frank is and
• 46:30
  she was like, what could this be frank stuff and he was like, I
• 46:33
  mean, I don't really know. He's probably in.
• 46:34
  Jails are like he did. You get the sense that like
• 46:39
  Strained relationship, Frank's been the family.
• 46:41
  Fuck up for a while and Larry's. Done bailing him out.
• 46:44
  And how does he get this fucking house?
• 46:46
  Then is this the family house? Yeah.
• 46:48
  How did he get the family houses?
• 46:50
  Face the fuck up. I think that they just never
• 46:53
  sold it and Larry wasn't like in town to occupy it because they
• 46:59
  said it's been like empty for 10 years now, aside from whenever
• 47:03
  Frank comes there to escape, okay?
• 47:06
  Well cross owes their marriage is Strained because he's like
• 47:10
  this will be a good move for us. Like we can just try and be
• 47:13
  happy. Yeah, you can tell from the
• 47:15
  beginning that is kind of like that, which is explain a little
• 47:20
  bit further here because Kirsty calls and he goes to answer the
• 47:23
  phone and talk to her. Meanwhile, Julia goes through
• 47:26
  Frank's ship and finds like a whole photo album of him just
• 47:30
  fucking a bunch of people. Yeah.
• 47:32
  And she takes one of them and Pockets, it for herself for
• 47:36
  later after ripping the lady out of the photo as a A bit later.
• 47:39
  But yeah. So Christie arrives.
• 47:42
  Sees all of this old, Jesus shit out on the curb which I don't
• 47:45
  really take it as Frank being a super religious.
• 47:48
  Dude, I don't think he would be the Jesus guy.
• 47:50
  Maybe it was their parents. Yeah, I think so too.
• 47:52
  You can tell that there's a strain relationship between
• 47:55
  Christian and Julia have to consider.
• 47:56
  Yeah. All right play.
• 47:58
  Nice with her. I think there's a strained
• 48:00
  relationship between Julia and every person she meets, I think
• 48:04
  so. Yeah, other than Frank, like,
• 48:05
  she saw Frankie, she's like, I'm done.
• 48:06
  There's a common denominator here.
• 48:09
  It's just kind of fucking sucks honestly.
• 48:11
  So they're moving in and Julia is in no way shape or form
• 48:15
  hopeful like she's like slowly on bubble wrapping some jars and
• 48:20
  then she's like, I'm going upstairs and she like pushes
• 48:23
  past everybody trying to move a giant mattress.
• 48:26
  That we never see again. No, I because the naturalness,
• 48:30
  no, there is no way that's the same mattress because they are
• 48:34
  essentially on a twin. I don't even believe it's a full
• 48:37
  when we see them later in that bed.
• 48:39
  Look okay, this whole scene is them with the movers, just like,
• 48:42
  struggling to get upstairs. I think that they cut it in half
• 48:44
  and I'm like, fuck it. Okay, I'll just like use half of
• 48:47
  it. I just need to get something.
• 48:49
  Are these actual professional movers?
• 48:51
  Because they don't seem like it. It is a creepy Larry found two
• 48:56
  dudes hanging outside of a Home Depot and was like hey I'll give
• 48:59
  you guys 50 bucks each to help me move some shit up the five
• 49:03
  flights of stairs in my old house.
• 49:04
  Yeah, they're nasty man. They're like questing after
• 49:07
  Julia, there's smoke and The house.
• 49:09
  Yeah, so many people smoke inside this house.
• 49:12
  Yeah, so many people smoke inside like you and like I just
• 49:16
  know how that house smells now because like it's an old house.
• 49:20
  It's musty it's mildewy and now it's got like the smoke smell
• 49:24
  and I'm sure Frank smoked in there, so, it's like, seeped
• 49:27
  into the walls. Oh, yeah.
• 49:28
  We're like, I can, I can call up that smell in my nostrils right
• 49:33
  now. It's nasty to think about.
• 49:36
  Yeah. I like those guys are really
• 49:37
  nasty. The Chris accuracy to Was it?
• 49:39
  Oh yeah, good Mother's looks and he's like, well, her mother
• 49:42
  says. Yeah, her mother's dead.
• 49:44
  So that's that's always a good comeback right there, right?
• 49:48
  Well, she's dead. So fuck you, yeah.
• 49:50
  Like well, she at least of age. Yeah.
• 49:54
  Pull a Tom. Adkins.
• 49:55
  How old are you anyway? Women am I right?
• 50:00
  And then they do take a six pack of beer.
• 50:02
  There's dude. Holy shit because they're like,
• 50:04
  are you going to need beer? Gets another weird thing here,
• 50:06
  though. I go.
• 50:06
  Hey, you got any beer? Maybe he said I'll give Uh 50
• 50:09
  bucks and a six pack of beer to split.
• 50:11
  If you help me move my shit, I got he's like just takes a whole
• 50:14
  six-pack and throws it at them like fucking take it.
• 50:17
  You trust a beer? You don't toss the six-pack.
• 50:20
  Yeah, even a plastic ring. Yeah, I'm gonna open it.
• 50:25
  Like it's going to be shaking off this, is he did that
• 50:28
  intentionally because they were being assholes which if that's
• 50:31
  the case. I respect it.
• 50:32
  Yeah 100%. So this still struggling to move
• 50:35
  that up there and he cuts his hand on a nail that is on the
• 50:40
  side of the wall. Meanwhile, Julia is upstairs in
• 50:44
  that room, where Frank was torn to shreds.
• 50:47
  And remember Larry Cuts himself, a lot of his immediate reaction.
• 50:52
  He's not like, I gotta go to the bathroom to wash this or I've
• 50:55
  got to go get a Band-Aid. He like very like, I guess, kind
• 50:59
  of, he's like, staggering and it's like he's about to pass
• 51:02
  out, but he like just goes up to Julia and he doesn't even say
• 51:05
  that you just like holds out his hand.
• 51:07
  It's gushing blood. It's just shooting out of his
• 51:10
  fucking hand. I really in a way though because
• 51:13
  the other night and if you guys follow us on Twitter than you
• 51:16
  already seen these photos but I I used a new hot glue gun
• 51:20
  actually bought a while back, but I haven't used it yet and I
• 51:24
  burnt the shit out of myself. And at one point, I dropped some
• 51:28
  very hot glue onto my thumb. And I tried to peel it off and I
• 51:32
  guess it like, you know, became one with my skin because I did a
• 51:36
  Full House of Wax and I realized I was peeling this.
• 51:39
  And once I realized what I was doing, I could no longer look at
• 51:42
  it. I was like, Travis Travis.
• 51:43
  You need to, we need to put something on this.
• 51:45
  This is Dad. This is really bad.
• 51:48
  So I do kind of get where he's coming from because once you hit
• 51:51
  a certain level of, I'm too squeamish for this, but I also
• 51:54
  am an adult and realize that it needs attention of some sort.
• 51:58
  Yeah. Like that's that's what marriage
• 52:00
  is for is for these kinds of moments, I suppose.
• 52:03
  So I don't know. I just always you communicated,
• 52:06
  like he just goes up there and just like slams, his fucking
• 52:09
  hand in her face and it's just like, I mean that is a
• 52:12
  communication. I do words need to be said at
• 52:15
  that point. Yeah, I guess.
• 52:17
  Like Jesus. Fragrant bring Jesus.
• 52:20
  Where, what the fuck did you do? And like, why are you here?
• 52:23
  Why don't you speak just fucking speak?
• 52:24
  In, like, all of this blood is just shooting all over the
• 52:27
  ground. It's an absurd amount.
• 52:29
  And then instead of her taken him to the hospital, he like,
• 52:34
  she just has curse, you take him.
• 52:36
  Yeah. Also I need to talk about
• 52:37
  currency for a second because she walks in before all this
• 52:40
  happens and she's like, I'm going to go make some coffee and
• 52:43
  she gets so fucking frustrated that the thing isn't working and
• 52:46
  I relate. So, Hard because once you need
• 52:48
  coffee, it's like everything becomes super frustrating.
• 52:51
  Yeah. And then she manages to like
• 52:55
  cause a spray of water in her face and she asked Julia for a
• 52:59
  towel and she like, it's the most magical towel in the
• 53:04
  universe because she like gently touches her face and her hair is
• 53:08
  instantly dry. We should all be so lucky to
• 53:11
  have such a towel here. Okay?
• 53:15
  So the blood upstairs is like Of sinking into the, for the floor
• 53:20
  is like, yeah. Like his drinking it up so later
• 53:25
  on while weary and curse Cedar at the hospital, a person
• 53:30
  actually forms from the blood that was soaked up in the for.
• 53:33
  And like you were saying earlier, it's kind of like the
• 53:35
  thing. It's just like to fucking like,
• 53:37
  Stringer, Eula arms emerge, and pulls himself up and truthfully.
• 53:42
  You don't think that they're going to be arms until you see
• 53:44
  the rest of the body configuration.
• 53:46
  Yeah. We expecting yeah like a bug
• 53:49
  situation. Yeah but he pulls himself up and
• 53:52
  he screams because that should probably hurts.
• 53:55
  Yeah. Okay.
• 53:56
  So there is a dinner party and Larry's talking about his doctor
• 54:01
  experience and how the doctor was they just kind of a dick to
• 54:04
  him. Why didn't we see any of this?
• 54:05
  This sounds like an amazing story.
• 54:07
  Yeah because I do like the transition of like telling it at
• 54:12
  a dinner party because it is how that would go.
• 54:14
  Yeah sense but Julie is like a full fucking wet blanket.
• 54:17
  And almost kills the entire party because she was like, I'm
• 54:20
  gonna go to bed and I was like, I guess we gotta go to that's
• 54:25
  what you do. When one of those I'm gonna go
• 54:26
  to bed you're like okay well I guess that's my cue and the
• 54:29
  whole thing was really like awkward but one of the people at
• 54:34
  the dinner party boy guy boyfriend of Kersey.
• 54:39
  Maybe yeah. Like his he's like you should
• 54:43
  get some more whiskey and she's like, I'm gonna be a little
• 54:45
  tipsy and he's like, maybe I like that.
• 54:47
  And Larry is like, oh God look like anything is like the
• 54:53
  seating arrangement. She's all the way at the corner
• 54:55
  of the other end. He's right next to Larry and
• 54:58
  then you can see at least face. She's like my daughter is an
• 55:03
  adult my daughters and my daughter's an adult, very
• 55:06
  uncomfortable, a terrible artist and yeah, this crazy story going
• 55:11
  with a doctor. Now, his wife storms upstairs in
• 55:14
  the middle of their dinner party and his daughter is getting hit
• 55:16
  on right. There is It's a bad time for
• 55:19
  Larry. Yeah, you know, it's also a bad
• 55:22
  time for his brother Frank because Julie, when she goes up
• 55:25
  Juliet, I don't want to keep calling her Julie and I don't
• 55:28
  know why Julia when she goes upstairs, is grabbed by gooey
• 55:34
  Larry and he says the, the blood brought me back and now I need
• 55:40
  more. No, she's like, I need to think
• 55:42
  about this. I like first, he's like, look at
• 55:44
  me, don't look at me. Help me, don't look at me like,
• 55:51
  make up your fucking mind. I'm gonna have to look at you
• 55:52
  from going to help you Frank. Yeah, so he's like, yeah, I need
• 55:56
  more blood and she goes downstairs and Kersey went
• 55:59
  upstairs because she's drunk and she wants to go back to that
• 56:02
  magical towel. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:04
  So maybe it'll soak up. Yeah, sober her up some.
• 56:08
  Yeah. Soak up some of the drunkenness.
• 56:09
  Yeah. Kersey encounters her on the
• 56:12
  stairs and she's like, thinking about worrying her up there to
• 56:14
  Frank but it's like that. Took it away from me.
• 56:17
  You problems and one. Yeah, but she doesn't she
• 56:21
  doesn't commit and Chrissy. Walks off.
• 56:23
  And smooches her boyfriend. Maybe guy.
• 56:26
  Yeah. Well, they walk home.
• 56:29
  They were walking together, they kiss and they gross a subway
• 56:32
  station, maybe, it's not the grossest.
• 56:34
  I've truthfully been in very few subway station same, but it's
• 56:38
  very gross. It's not a romantic place.
• 56:41
  I would say it's not the kind where you can like thrust to the
• 56:44
  other person up against the wall, because that's how you
• 56:47
  get. Tetanus or herpes or something.
• 56:49
  I don't know some disease that you don't want.
• 56:51
  Oh yeah something that requires a pill or a creamed to take care
• 56:55
  of and they wind up back at curse teams playing hold on
• 57:01
  before that even though that old fly Bug Man speaking, man
• 57:06
  speaking man, he's staring at them and like it kind of creeps
• 57:10
  Kirsty out. Yeah, but like, there's like
• 57:12
  nothing about this, like, he's just watching and then they just
• 57:15
  kind of like see him go. Hey, so she is dreaming about
• 57:22
  like feathers and blood and crying babies and she wakes up
• 57:27
  in a panic because Steve wakes her up Steve, is there shirtless
• 57:30
  in her tiny little room? So they did the thing.
• 57:34
  Oh yeah they did for sure. She's so sweaty here too.
• 57:37
  Yeah man. She went to bed.
• 57:39
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 57:41
  But like in that dream it was like it was a very crying like a
• 57:44
  baby but he was like all bloody under the covers.
• 57:47
  I don't know it. Very confusing.
• 57:48
  You had heard kind of confused, so she's like, I gotta call my
• 57:51
  dad now. Yeah.
• 57:52
  Yeah. She's a.
• 57:54
  Is there like a hint that like, she's got like, some sort of
• 57:57
  psychic ability, or she just like very in touch with her own
• 57:59
  emotions. I think she's just in touch with
• 58:02
  her actions. Because, you know, this isn't
• 58:04
  the only time that she just has this desire to like, check on
• 58:07
  her dad whenever she has these bad feelings.
• 58:08
  Yeah. Well, and here's the thing too,
• 58:10
  is that like and maybe Kirsty and I are very different people,
• 58:14
  but if I knew that I was calling the house phone In potentially
• 58:18
  would be waking up my evil stepmother.
• 58:20
  I would be so anxious about that.
• 58:24
  Yeah but at the same time fucker you know what I mean and be like
• 58:27
  hey that's another way to get it hurt.
• 58:29
  I'm gonna call my dad and pull them away from bed at 2:00 a.m.
• 58:32
  Yeah, but like what if Julia had been the one to answer?
• 58:35
  Well, then she's the one that woke up and got her night
• 58:37
  ruined, you know, win-win. So, Julia goes to the bar.
• 58:43
  Is it a bar? Is it like a hotel bar?
• 58:46
  Yeah. Very like high ceilings like
• 58:51
  businessmen drinking in the daytime.
• 58:53
  I feel like that's where they're allowed to do it.
• 58:54
  Is that a hotel bar? Yeah, it's not like a dive, you
• 58:58
  know, it's not the Winchester or anything.
• 59:02
  So she invites him back to her place and he she's like, let's
• 59:10
  Go upstairs and he's like is this a joke?
• 59:12
  Because like he just walks into this like grubby bloody maggoty,
• 59:19
  Maggie rat infested with rats over the place.
• 59:23
  I think Frank had a thing for rats or something.
• 59:26
  And here's the thing, this house has 12 bedrooms, like I'm sure
• 59:31
  this guy's like it's not anyone here look man.
• 59:35
  But he's so horny. He's like, let me put down my
• 59:37
  trousers so you can see my tighty-whities.
• 59:40
  And his but like his buzz coming out of them tidy whities they
• 59:43
  too tight. Yeah, that's the thing though.
• 59:46
  I like this guy right here he this is like what women are
• 59:50
  afraid of men should also be afraid of this because women are
• 59:52
  capable of also killing you by worrying.
• 59:54
  You. Yeah.
• 59:55
  Which is what's happening here. Like if you go to their house
• 59:58
  like no, let's go up to the attic where there's nothing and
• 1:00:01
  there's blood stains everywhere. I didn T, have some second
• 1:00:04
  thoughts I think at least they try and explain it away because
• 1:00:07
  he's like, oh I've had too much to drink.
• 1:00:09
  I need to To go pee. Yeah, so I do think that like,
• 1:00:15
  like oh, maybe he's just drunk and thinking with thinking with
• 1:00:18
  this PP. Yeah, yeah probably.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah, definitely there that situation.
• 1:00:22
  But Julia. She's a good villain.
• 1:00:25
  She was smart. She blocked the door.
• 1:00:27
  So he wouldn't be able to get out.
• 1:00:28
  And he was because it's an old house.
• 1:00:30
  It like, locks with a key, like it's not like a little.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah. So I hope the listeners
• 1:00:37
  understood that I did a hand motion to which This is not
• 1:00:40
  helpful, but I hope you guys got it.
• 1:00:44
  And while he's like, hey, let me out.
• 1:00:45
  She hits him with a hammer in his head.
• 1:00:48
  A lot of times. Oh yeah, man.
• 1:00:50
  Here are the head is her preferred method of killing
• 1:00:54
  people in this movie? It's effective.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, it's a painful way to go. Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Well, I like that. They put up like little two
• 1:01:00
  little hooks so they can just gently place the camera bag
• 1:01:03
  there. Every time I wish they did like
• 1:01:05
  the Texas Chainsaw things over you like shakes.
• 1:01:07
  Like the guys that would have like added Ooh I think we're
• 1:01:10
  like Midsummer with chiti. Yeah, it was.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Julie because she's not a
• 1:01:18
  very bloody because it splattered in a spray of red
• 1:01:21
  paint. How the fuck does she get out of
• 1:01:23
  this? So where he comes?
• 1:01:26
  No, Frank is like, don't look at me.
• 1:01:30
  I love these shots of him in the background and it's like very
• 1:01:33
  like it looks like a boy, looks like little tiny Jason from like
• 1:01:36
  the Friday. Then he's just like swimming
• 1:01:39
  across the We're just really quickly.
• 1:01:42
  I thought is he eating them? What he's sticking his fingers
• 1:01:45
  into their necks and like absorbing their essence or
• 1:01:48
  something. That's how I interpret it any
• 1:01:50
  way. Okay.
• 1:01:51
  I always liked that. It was kind of like eating too,
• 1:01:54
  but I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:01:56
  But we're not supposed to look at them.
• 1:01:57
  How are you supposed to? I don't know.
• 1:01:59
  But Julia, here's Larry and just ignores him for as long as
• 1:02:03
  humanly possible. And she goes into the bathroom
• 1:02:06
  and she uses her magic towel to wipe the blood off her face
• 1:02:09
  without messing up. For makeup at all.
• 1:02:10
  No, before that even she takes the dead body.
• 1:02:13
  Like she doesn't even leave it in that room.
• 1:02:15
  She takes it and puts it in some random room.
• 1:02:17
  Where the fuck does she disposed of this body?
• 1:02:19
  I were in the closet we find it later when cursed, he's hiding,
• 1:02:22
  that's right. Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  So I think the reason she gets away with us because when Larry
• 1:02:26
  does come upstairs and she's in the bathroom, she's like I'm not
• 1:02:29
  feeling good. He was like, oh can I get you
• 1:02:30
  anything? She said of Brandy.
• 1:02:31
  His. All right, I'll be right back.
• 1:02:33
  Would you like what kind of not feeling?
• 1:02:34
  Well, are you the debris? And he's gonna, it should have
• 1:02:37
  been his first. Maybe she always does.
• 1:02:40
  Though, she drinks when she's sick.
• 1:02:42
  Maybe I don't know. Maybe any people who do.
• 1:02:45
  Yeah. But I think because she's like,
• 1:02:48
  no, I'll be downstairs. I think like they both kind of
• 1:02:51
  already have one foot out the door with this marriage.
• 1:02:53
  So I think like, he's just like whatever she's gonna be like
• 1:02:56
  this to me. I'm not going to worry too much
• 1:02:57
  about her. Yeah, I guess.
• 1:02:59
  And I totally understand that down just fucking whenever she
• 1:03:02
  doesn't want me up here, then fuck it.
• 1:03:03
  I'll go down there and I'll get my own Brandy.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah. So she goes into the room.
• 1:03:10
  As just to check up on things and Frank is now like in more of
• 1:03:13
  a body. He's no longer sad little boy.
• 1:03:15
  He is now like you know for one man against like like an anatomy
• 1:03:20
  model in science class. Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah. Kind of like that.
• 1:03:25
  He says I need one to two more, which is a valiant effort to
• 1:03:31
  guess, because you've never done this before.
• 1:03:34
  You don't know how much it takes to regrow your skin.
• 1:03:36
  Okay, all he had before was Where is what hand and boy, and
• 1:03:42
  that got him pretty far as he was able to crawl around for a
• 1:03:45
  little bit. And then from one person, he's
• 1:03:47
  like a pariah. So I think he could maybe
• 1:03:50
  gaysian but he definitely needs more than that.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah, he was wrong. Yeah, Kersey.
• 1:03:57
  Got a job at an exotic pet shop and she is having a bad first
• 1:04:02
  day. Yeah I okay.
• 1:04:04
  So Cricket man earns the same Cricket man.
• 1:04:07
  Yeah, it just dips his hand in there and starts eating the
• 1:04:10
  Crickets and she doesn't really know how to respond other, than
• 1:04:13
  to point out that he's stealing the Crickets.
• 1:04:16
  Yeah. She's like, even those back
• 1:04:19
  which like, and then when people are what's wrong, her see what
• 1:04:22
  happened? She's like, nothing.
• 1:04:24
  All right, that's what I just saw a man, get a handful of
• 1:04:26
  Cricket is this normal my first day?
• 1:04:30
  So you guys, I mean, am I supposed to be faced by this?
• 1:04:34
  But yeah, everybody. She doesn't tell anybody guys
• 1:04:37
  just eats bugs and walks away. Yeah, so we cut to Julia
• 1:04:42
  bringing home yet. Another guy.
• 1:04:44
  Yeah, she kills him ring consumes come to Daddy.
• 1:04:48
  So I'm assuming that these clothes that he's now wearing
• 1:04:50
  our Larry's. My question is, what if you how
• 1:04:55
  many of his suit Scan Julius steel from this closet before he
• 1:05:00
  notices that his clothes are going missing.
• 1:05:02
  I think it makes more sense for it to be the close of the
• 1:05:05
  people. He's killing, you know, but
• 1:05:07
  there are different sizes. Yeah I know, but like what makes
• 1:05:11
  you think that him and Larry are the same size?
• 1:05:14
  Just because her brothers, that doesn't make any.
• 1:05:16
  I guess, I guess for me, I would rather if I had no flesh from
• 1:05:23
  like a sterilization standpoint, it would be a little bit.
• 1:05:26
  More hygienic to have on your brother's clean clothes and
• 1:05:30
  dirty bar man's. I agree.
• 1:05:32
  Born outfit. You gotta explain the blood
• 1:05:34
  stains or why they are missing. Either way, I think it would
• 1:05:38
  have been better and more accurate.
• 1:05:40
  If he was wearing a bunch of clothes that didn't fit, like
• 1:05:42
  he's got one that's like Gigantic on him.
• 1:05:45
  Yeah. It's like pants are a little bit
• 1:05:46
  too tight. Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah. Like that were like, David Burns
• 1:05:51
  when he's a big boy interview? Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  You know, I wish we had some of that every Get some fun.
• 1:05:58
  Okay, so guys now wearing the clothes he's smoking a ciggy can
• 1:06:02
  taste. Now he tells her what he went
• 1:06:05
  through. Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  He shows her, the whole meant configuration.
• 1:06:08
  Yeah. And he basically shows her which
• 1:06:10
  he went, he went through the box.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, she is horrified. Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  And to him he's like, no, that shit was hot.
• 1:06:16
  Like that was what I wanted and I just didn't like the part
• 1:06:20
  where I exploded and yeah had to be reborn by board.
• 1:06:26
  So, So, Larry and Julia are watching boxing, and he's a
• 1:06:30
  really, really into it. And Julia is in a far away
• 1:06:32
  place. And he's like, I don't really
• 1:06:33
  like these. You want me to change and she
• 1:06:35
  goes? No, no, she's actually more into
• 1:06:38
  it. He's like, I know that this
• 1:06:39
  stuff usually makes you sick, but I didn't realize you're
• 1:06:42
  actually into this now. Like she's like becoming more
• 1:06:44
  decent to ties to violence because she's killing all these
• 1:06:47
  people. So I know whenever people are
• 1:06:49
  beating the shit out of each other on TV she's like, oh fuck
• 1:06:52
  yeah, I could use that next time.
• 1:06:53
  So the problem happens when there's a sound Oh yeah.
• 1:06:58
  And Larry's like we need to go investigate and she is doing
• 1:07:00
  everything she can to not investigations.
• 1:07:02
  Like it's probably just a raccoon and he's like, well, we
• 1:07:04
  need to take care of that shit. Then she goes, it's rats.
• 1:07:07
  You need to take care of that shit.
• 1:07:09
  I'm terrified of the storm and then she tries to seduce him and
• 1:07:12
  they kiss her second. He's like, hmm, so need to go.
• 1:07:15
  Yeah. Like if it's the storm that I
• 1:07:17
  need to close the way, he's like I said, there's nothing that is
• 1:07:19
  stopping me from getting up there, so he goes up there,
• 1:07:22
  Frank has hidden himself. So Larry comes back down, he's
• 1:07:25
  like all right now let's go back.
• 1:07:26
  Back to the Kissin. So they go to the bedroom and
• 1:07:31
  they're like, making out and he's really into it, and she was
• 1:07:35
  like, kind of just like whatever and just sitting there until she
• 1:07:39
  sees Frank and then he pulls out his little switchblade and she's
• 1:07:42
  like, no, I can't bear it, I can't bear it.
• 1:07:46
  And then Larry is like, that's a really weird.
• 1:07:50
  A, a weird thing to say, like when you have changed your mind
• 1:07:54
  but also like you've changed your mind so fast like you hit.
• 1:07:56
  Me and now, all of a sudden you're not into it wary, though.
• 1:08:01
  It took him away too long. Yeah, no, there was way too many
• 1:08:04
  instances of her saying, no, please.
• 1:08:06
  No, I can't. Yeah, that's a good look on you,
• 1:08:08
  Larry? Yeah.
• 1:08:09
  It's like 10 seconds of her like straight up shouting.
• 1:08:11
  And then like eventually he's like God, I don't understand
• 1:08:14
  like Jesus do like yeah, just stop after the first one.
• 1:08:18
  That was kind of getting weird. Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Everything. I can't bear it like yeah.
• 1:08:23
  Like damn. It's like Jennifer's Body.
• 1:08:26
  Wasn't it? No, I'm too big.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah she's like crying. Yes, a Frank Spears.
• 1:08:34
  I'm walks off for now. Yeah, so Larry Inc, her steering
• 1:08:39
  getting dinner together and they talk about Julia and how they
• 1:08:43
  both hater. I got, they're both venting
• 1:08:45
  about your here. Yeah.
• 1:08:47
  And as she sucks at, yeah, I know she fucking sucks, but
• 1:08:49
  maybe she just needs a friend. So, yeah, be nice to her.
• 1:08:52
  I got wouldn't be like that if I were the devil.
• 1:08:54
  Yeah, she kind of fucking sucks and I don't want you to Her
• 1:08:57
  either. Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  He's like she's getting weird. She won't leave the house.
• 1:09:01
  I think maybe she's murdered some people.
• 1:09:02
  Hate Kirsty. Do you want to go be alone in
• 1:09:04
  the house with her? That sounds like a good idea.
• 1:09:06
  Yeah, I know the place smelled really bad when we first got
• 1:09:09
  there, but now is spelling a little bit more dead and I just
• 1:09:11
  can't really explain it. It's kind of goopy, I keep going
• 1:09:15
  into that room and there's just like swine everywhere.
• 1:09:18
  Like I just maybe there's a lot of really large slow, you know,
• 1:09:21
  what Kirsty? I just don't know.
• 1:09:23
  So she agrees that she'll go and try and play nice.
• 1:09:26
  With Julia, which I feel like is the wrong move.
• 1:09:31
  Like, yeah, we sing them together.
• 1:09:32
  Is not gonna help either. No, no, it's no, he's just, he's
• 1:09:36
  going for short-term Solutions. And this is just not the way to
• 1:09:39
  go about this. It's like, it's his Hail Mary.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah. Like I need to find, maybe he's
• 1:09:45
  hoping that they'll get into a fight so he has an excuse.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah, it's yeah, maybe I guess. So unfortunately, at the same
• 1:09:53
  time kirstie's walking in as when Julia is bringing one of
• 1:09:57
  Frank's meals to him. Yeah, this guy almost like he
• 1:10:01
  actually puts up a fight. He kind of starts to get away.
• 1:10:03
  Yeah. Chrissy can hear the screaming?
• 1:10:05
  Yeah. Like so when Julia like leaves
• 1:10:08
  on stairs, he's like nope, I'm out.
• 1:10:10
  And then they don't do as good. A job like they got worse at
• 1:10:13
  murder. Some shoot like almost looked
• 1:10:16
  like she was kind of protecting him which was weird because like
• 1:10:20
  Frank has to throw her off like out of the way and the guy kind
• 1:10:24
  of gets out of the door and he's already Partially absorbed by
• 1:10:28
  Frank at this point so when Kirsty sees him he's kind of
• 1:10:31
  like he looks creepy as fuck. They do a great job with these
• 1:10:35
  bodies. Whenever they're like at the
• 1:10:37
  state, they kind of look like the Poor Unfortunate Souls in
• 1:10:41
  Ursula's little bowl and animated The Little Mermaid.
• 1:10:44
  It's been more like time or alike.
• 1:10:46
  The the souls in the River, Styx in the Hercules movie.
• 1:10:53
  Bring it all these Disney references that I don't remember
• 1:10:56
  that plenty of Yeah okay I'll take your word for it.
• 1:10:58
  It's creepy as fuck. Yeah she's sees that rightfully
• 1:11:02
  freaks out and runs away but she like she knows Frank catches
• 1:11:07
  her. Yeah, Franklin come yeah Daddy
• 1:11:09
  come to Daddy's her. Ooh yeah he says I love that
• 1:11:12
  line but it's freaky, it's a fucking great.
• 1:11:14
  Yeah and she realized she sees the dolomites configuration and
• 1:11:19
  she somehow pieces together that it's important.
• 1:11:21
  So she takes it from him and he's like, you better give it
• 1:11:24
  back. And she says, are you want it?
• 1:11:25
  You want it like, she's playing with.
• 1:11:26
  The puppy, she's taking her job at the animal shot.
• 1:11:30
  Very seriously and she throws it through the window.
• 1:11:32
  And then while he's like stunned, she runs out real quick
• 1:11:35
  and grabs it and then runs. And then she passes out with a
• 1:11:39
  bunch of concerned people staring at her.
• 1:11:41
  I like to imagine that special effects guy cried when they shot
• 1:11:44
  that scene, don't break a please.
• 1:11:47
  Yeah, she just passes out on the street and then she wakes up in
• 1:11:51
  the hospital and the doctor is Weirdly hostile to her, right?
• 1:11:56
  Yeah, like okay, you can call your dad but you got to answer
• 1:12:00
  some questions first, a little girl least, obviously want to
• 1:12:04
  talk to you. And she was like, why is that
• 1:12:05
  obvious? And he goes, I'll leave this
• 1:12:07
  here to jog your memory and it's the limit configuration.
• 1:12:10
  I like to imagine that like, he wanted really badly to be like a
• 1:12:14
  private investigator, but he's like, I gotta be a doctor.
• 1:12:17
  The only thing I can think of is that she had blood on her from
• 1:12:20
  where Frank assaulted her, you know, yeah, because it's very
• 1:12:23
  bloody and Yeah, and she's got no like wounds of her own, so,
• 1:12:27
  it's clearly somebody else's blood.
• 1:12:29
  So that's the, that's the only thing I can think of.
• 1:12:33
  Yeah. But it's interesting that they
• 1:12:35
  give her the one that configuration like, you probably
• 1:12:37
  saw this, but here, keep it. Yeah.
• 1:12:39
  So she's playing with it and solves it.
• 1:12:42
  Accidentally, this scene has to be like super easy to solve,
• 1:12:45
  right? Because everybody, like, is able
• 1:12:47
  to solve it within the first five seconds of touching it.
• 1:12:49
  Yeah, I wanted to be like a fucking Rubik's Cube or somebody
• 1:12:52
  sitting there and they're like this forever.
• 1:12:54
  Like I just have one green square and at the Restless or,
• 1:12:57
  yeah, it's so frustrating. I just don't fully understand
• 1:13:01
  it. It's like you touch it and it
• 1:13:02
  just moves. And all of the ways, it's like
• 1:13:04
  if it solves itself essentially, and so it's all self and it
• 1:13:09
  opens up this hallway and she goes through it because she's
• 1:13:15
  curious. So as she's walking down there,
• 1:13:17
  there's like crying. She hears that baby crying.
• 1:13:19
  I think from her dreams and then actually goes further down the
• 1:13:22
  hall. And that's when The demon thing,
• 1:13:25
  which evil maggot baby. Yeah, evil Maga, baby or the
• 1:13:30
  engineer as it was actually called starts to chase her down
• 1:13:35
  the hallway so she runs back out that wall closes itself but now
• 1:13:40
  zettabytes appear. So they're like you solved the
• 1:13:43
  Box we came just like I really didn't like this is an axe it
• 1:13:48
  was a pocket. Dial has fucking sassy in this
• 1:13:52
  scene, where he's like, no do not.
• 1:13:54
  Not cry. That is a waste of the pleasure.
• 1:13:57
  Yeah, like dude. Calm, yeah, does she look like
• 1:14:00
  your normal clientele like chill out?
• 1:14:03
  I know right? Obviously it was done by
• 1:14:05
  accident. Basic know.
• 1:14:06
  You want to see this shit and then she's like Frank Cotton, he
• 1:14:09
  got away from you all and they're like he did not nobody
• 1:14:11
  gets away and it's like one security lying down in hell
• 1:14:15
  because you haven't even noticed.
• 1:14:17
  He's gone and he's eating three people.
• 1:14:19
  Yeah, there's a lot. He's super newbie right now.
• 1:14:21
  He's called. Yeah, Daddy, it was yeah.
• 1:14:24
  Kind of weird right now. Yeah.
• 1:14:26
  So is like she's like okay I will show you him if you guys
• 1:14:30
  spare me and they're like maybe we will maybe we won't.
• 1:14:33
  But show us to where he is and she realizes, that's the best
• 1:14:36
  kind of a deal. She'll get.
• 1:14:37
  Yeah. She's like, I'll figure it out
• 1:14:39
  later. But at the moment, I can at
• 1:14:41
  least solve the Frank problem. Yeah, so she does, she goes over
• 1:14:45
  to the house, she wants to talk to her dad.
• 1:14:48
  Hmm. But by the time she gets there,
• 1:14:53
  the dad is acting. And kind of strange.
• 1:14:55
  How does she not notice the blood all around his hairline?
• 1:14:58
  Like where he just fucking stapled the face on?
• 1:15:01
  Yes, base. And like she hugged him.
• 1:15:03
  So I feel like he probably felt be rubbery.
• 1:15:08
  Yeah. Like his skin probably assisted?
• 1:15:11
  Yeah, it should when you hug another person.
• 1:15:13
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 1:15:14
  That's the image. I can feel that.
• 1:15:18
  I know exactly what that would be like and I don't like that.
• 1:15:23
  Yeah. But like she Doesn't she doesn't
• 1:15:24
  understand. She doesn't get it.
• 1:15:26
  She's okay. That is so paranoid at all
• 1:15:28
  times. That her dad has been murdered.
• 1:15:30
  She doesn't pick up on the time that he's actually been
• 1:15:33
  murdered. Yeah.
• 1:15:34
  So she's like she's cool like all right, I guess we'll hang
• 1:15:37
  with you. Hear what happened with bring?
• 1:15:39
  Yeah, and he's like, oh well, we had to kill him and yeah, like
• 1:15:43
  what? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:44
  He's better off dead. He just kind of like fucking
• 1:15:47
  sucked. He didn't have any skin.
• 1:15:48
  He was being really weird and trying to kill everybody.
• 1:15:51
  So we'll find a way to explain is the police.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah. And Julia.
• 1:15:55
  Meanwhile stand there with this fucking smug ass smirk.
• 1:15:58
  Yeah. You want to like that's such a
• 1:16:00
  punchable face, you know? Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Fuck Julia and I got to give credit to it.
• 1:16:05
  What's the actor's name? Is it for him for Larry?
• 1:16:10
  That is Andrew Robinson. Andrew Roberts and I was not
• 1:16:13
  going to guess the right thing. He did such a good job of like
• 1:16:19
  being frank ever, Larry pretending to be Larry like
• 1:16:23
  until it's a different person. Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  You don't even feel like you're watching the same guy.
• 1:16:26
  Yeah. Like, even his face looks just
• 1:16:28
  different. Yeah.
• 1:16:29
  It's like it's like this facial like the way he's animating his
• 1:16:32
  face as yeah. It's more unsettling like he did
• 1:16:35
  a really good job. Yeah.
• 1:16:37
  But Christy demands to see the body just to know for sure what
• 1:16:40
  I like. What happened.
• 1:16:42
  So Joy leads her up there again this body looks way smaller than
• 1:16:47
  it should for a grown man. Yeah it's like he really
• 1:16:50
  absorbed that one right there. He got ya out of weary for sure.
• 1:16:54
  Sure. Yeah, so when she's up there,
• 1:16:58
  the cenobites up here and they're like, we want the man
• 1:17:00
  who did this. And she goes, you can't.
• 1:17:02
  That's my dad. When she runs downstairs to try
• 1:17:05
  and get Larry to leave because she's like, you don't understand
• 1:17:08
  their these creatures up there and then that's when she puts
• 1:17:11
  together. Yeah, that is Frank.
• 1:17:13
  Kersey, like, tries to grab her first and she breaks free and
• 1:17:17
  she runs down there to talk to her dad and from the
• 1:17:20
  interaction. She's like, oh shit, you're
• 1:17:22
  Frank, you killed my dad. That was my dad up.
• 1:17:24
  So then she like is running around and act.
• 1:17:28
  Like I think she did such a good job acting in this scene to
• 1:17:31
  where she's like equal parts fighting for her life but also
• 1:17:34
  like coming to terms with the fact that her dad is dead.
• 1:17:37
  Yeah I do like the lion here where he's like all right that's
• 1:17:40
  I guess that's it for the count. Had the Cat & Mouse shit them.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah. Which was he suggested the line?
• 1:17:46
  Yeah so yeah just in the moment was like oh shit.
• 1:17:49
  Yeah, that's good. But then they did end up doing
• 1:17:51
  cat and mouse. Well so he says That's enough
• 1:17:54
  for the Cat & Mouse shit again and he goes and Julia's like
• 1:17:57
  holding Kirsty and it looks like he's going to stack Hershey but
• 1:18:01
  then he like and gets Julia instead and she goes not me.
• 1:18:07
  He's like sorry, I'd rather fuck my niece because this can't get
• 1:18:10
  more upsetting. Yeah, yeah, it's very, very
• 1:18:13
  gross. So I guess if we have like a
• 1:18:15
  ship of Theseus moment how much of him is still her uncle or is
• 1:18:20
  because he is like, I don't know built from new parts.
• 1:18:24
  He like, has, like, half of like she clawed his face too.
• 1:18:28
  Yeah, and it's just, like, hanging out in strips.
• 1:18:29
  Yeah. So his skin is, it does feel
• 1:18:32
  weird for. Yeah, because that doesn't
• 1:18:33
  happen in normal people's faces. Yeah, but like, I wonder like if
• 1:18:37
  since he's wearing weary skin now, if like, because he liked
• 1:18:41
  reaches in to Julia and like absorbs her blood, I wonder if
• 1:18:45
  that would he'll like the Frank or not the Frank, the weary
• 1:18:49
  skin. On top of it doesn't.
• 1:18:51
  It doesn't heal his face. Yeah.
• 1:18:52
  What if you're like helps them become Um, him that would have
• 1:18:55
  been interesting. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:56
  But they they have like this whole hide-and-seek moment.
• 1:18:58
  So I guess it wasn't enough. No, that can't be just straight
• 1:19:01
  up, dude. Yeah, but they wind up in the
• 1:19:04
  attic and the son of B and their mobile torture chamber appear.
• 1:19:10
  No, I so creepy. And Frank's like you tricked me,
• 1:19:14
  and she's like, well, you killed my dad.
• 1:19:15
  So, yeah, really traumatizing for me, I need a lot of therapy.
• 1:19:23
  Yeah, pin. It is really, really pissed that
• 1:19:26
  he is alive again. So yeah, they just straight up
• 1:19:30
  hook him back up. Yo again, and they again with
• 1:19:35
  the dislike don't look because they tell Kirsty, this is not
• 1:19:38
  for your eyes. It's a little bit more eloquent
• 1:19:41
  than Frank's. Don't look at me.
• 1:19:42
  But like it's still. Well, I mean, they were trying
• 1:19:44
  to do this shit to her earlier. Like, I mean, at least give her
• 1:19:47
  a preview, let her know what's about to happen.
• 1:19:49
  So, you know how our whole head Canon of John Kramer being like
• 1:19:53
  a fan. End of 80s.
• 1:19:54
  Slashers you think he's a sinner by?
• 1:19:57
  I think that when he set up the shotgun Carousel, he got really
• 1:20:03
  mad at the one guy at the end. Saying, look at me like, no,
• 1:20:06
  you're supposed to say, do not give me.
• 1:20:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:11
  So yeah, like he is all stretched out.
• 1:20:15
  And this is where he says Jesus wept.
• 1:20:18
  Yeah. And then he just explodes.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah. And then you think it's over
• 1:20:23
  with But Kersey thinks it's over with.
• 1:20:26
  So, she tries to leave at all of them swore Maria.
• 1:20:29
  And I do, you think it's over with do you?
• 1:20:31
  So they start chasing her, but she has the limit configuration
• 1:20:34
  and yeah, as easy of a puzzle, it is to solve.
• 1:20:37
  She continues to do it and it's zaps.
• 1:20:41
  And yeah. She's like, oh no.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah, yeah. It just works like this.
• 1:20:45
  She's just like, oh, yeah. And Steve shows up, yeah.
• 1:20:48
  Yeah, because like this is where we learn Steve's name because
• 1:20:50
  he's like pounding on the front door.
• 1:20:51
  She goes Steve, we're like uh-oh.
• 1:20:54
  That's his name. Yeah.
• 1:20:55
  Why are you even here? You're not needed.
• 1:20:57
  You do not provide any help at all in this scene.
• 1:21:00
  I think he got concerned because he went to go see her in the
• 1:21:02
  hospital and she wasn't there and the doctors like well by
• 1:21:05
  golly. That's bizarre, really not at
• 1:21:09
  all concerned enough. And he's like, I bet she's at
• 1:21:11
  her dad's house which like, maybe they only recently started
• 1:21:15
  dating, but he has very quickly learned how important her dad is
• 1:21:18
  see her. So that's why he, that's why
• 1:21:21
  he's there, but he's not really. Contributing to the, to the
• 1:21:26
  resolution of this know. Well, this is where Pinhead says
• 1:21:32
  we have such sights to show you and then she responds with go to
• 1:21:36
  hell, which has a one liner in this scenario, so yeah, they all
• 1:21:41
  Get Zapped, the house catches on fire and I think it's crazy that
• 1:21:47
  they stand there and watch the entire thing burn.
• 1:21:50
  Because you going, I gotta seen creatures from hell can survive
• 1:21:54
  Have some fire. It's also got to take a fucking
• 1:21:56
  long time for that entire thing to just go to Pure Rubble, but
• 1:22:00
  like it cuts to them standing there.
• 1:22:02
  The fire still going, but it's just like bricks and like some
• 1:22:04
  dust its Rubble at this point. Yeah.
• 1:22:06
  But she finds the woman configuration in the fire and
• 1:22:08
  grabs it and tosses it into another fire.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah. And then the Brigham in shows up
• 1:22:15
  because we need more of him. I don't have done without him
• 1:22:20
  like he could have just been an unsettling creatures.
• 1:22:22
  Yeah. Just like I got upset.
• 1:22:24
  Man, that is crickets and I would have totally accepted that
• 1:22:27
  but no, he turns into a demon and he flies away.
• 1:22:30
  Yeah. And then the zooms out takes the
• 1:22:34
  he takes the limit configuration out of the fire then.
• 1:22:37
  Yeah. Okay right.
• 1:22:39
  Yeah. And then he goes and then it
• 1:22:40
  zooms out and it's the configuration again at the
• 1:22:43
  beginning of the movie. Yeah.
• 1:22:46
  And then the movie ends. Yeah.
• 1:22:48
  It's just opening credits and entire movie all the way down.
• 1:22:52
  Yeah. It's just like, it keeps going.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah, I like it. But yeah, that's the end of the
• 1:22:57
  movie. That's how it goes.
• 1:23:00
  Okay. So after talking about it, do
• 1:23:02
  you change your rating in any way?
• 1:23:03
  I will cede a quarter of a point.
• 1:23:07
  Okay, cool. What made you do that 6.25?
• 1:23:09
  I mean it does tell a story which I said before, I just I
• 1:23:15
  don't know. I like I want I want to like
• 1:23:17
  this is a movie that I want to like but I just don't I get it.
• 1:23:20
  I get it. So like old razor to the right?
• 1:23:23
  I truthfully, can't tell you much about it, seriously, I
• 1:23:26
  should do this so much, it's amazing.
• 1:23:31
  I think I'm going to, I'll keep mine on, Nate.
• 1:23:33
  Okay, I do love this movie, this movie is great.
• 1:23:36
  This is one that I will watch at any time.
• 1:23:38
  Like, I don't know. I it's fresh.
• 1:23:41
  I guess like, it's just tell us like a different story compared
• 1:23:44
  to everything else in that time, like, how unique it is?
• 1:23:47
  I I respect the movie for what it is.
• 1:23:51
  It's just one of those that doesn't speak to me for whatever
• 1:23:54
  reason. And I really like, I want to
• 1:23:56
  know why. Yeah, but it just okay.
• 1:23:59
  Cool, man. Seven point one, two five is our
• 1:24:01
  new at me. All right.
• 1:24:02
  I like the score a lot better than IMDB's.
• 1:24:06
  Okay. Talia, the beginning of the
• 1:24:10
  movie. She wanted to play so much
• 1:24:12
  catch. She want to play fetch because
• 1:24:14
  if she dropped a toy she refused to go get it herself.
• 1:24:17
  Yeah she Want to play catch, then she was sleepy, but then
• 1:24:21
  she needed to go out and an hour, nine minutes and granted
• 1:24:24
  us an hour and nine minutes in like the Joe Bob specials, not
• 1:24:27
  necessarily an hour, nine minutes in the movie, and then
• 1:24:30
  she barked when the baby was crying in the hall before the
• 1:24:33
  first appearance of creepy maggot babies always upsetting.
• 1:24:36
  Yeah, protect the baby. Yes.
• 1:24:37
  Oh Talia I mean tell you was living for those movies, you
• 1:24:41
  Arctic. I think she really did.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah I think she I think she gives it an eight.
• 1:24:44
  I think she recognizes that that was her best poster.
• 1:24:47
  So yeah. So she's like, I love this
• 1:24:49
  movie. Yes, yes, absolutely.
• 1:24:51
  Zoey, started off the movie hunting.
• 1:24:54
  And I'm going to tell you guys, she found one of her little toy
• 1:24:57
  mice. She knew the rats were coming.
• 1:25:00
  Oh yeah, she found one of her little toy mice, and we just
• 1:25:03
  hear her little paws skittering, down the hall.
• 1:25:06
  And then she does essentially a Tokyo Drift into the kitchen and
• 1:25:09
  drops the mouse and just like looks at us through the doorway.
• 1:25:12
  Yeah. What up bitches?
• 1:25:14
  And she retired and yeah. And then after that she came in
• 1:25:17
  like she sat on the Couch and on the dog.
• 1:25:19
  But like she stayed in the living room.
• 1:25:20
  She was there for most of the movies I'm going to call the
• 1:25:22
  yes. I mean, I think she was very
• 1:25:24
  excited to watch that because she ran in and Tokyo drifted in.
• 1:25:27
  Ya, think I'm making an appearance for this when I'm
• 1:25:30
  watching that shit. Yes.
• 1:25:31
  Yes. Okay, who did you relate to
• 1:25:37
  Kirsty in her frustration of trying to get coffee?
• 1:25:41
  But not having all the supplies. Did I relate?
• 1:25:48
  To our way to the party guess because I feel so uncomfortable
• 1:25:55
  need to leave. Yeah, I feel uncomfortable
• 1:25:57
  watching the whole dynamic of this family play out and I but I
• 1:26:01
  liked hearing the story because they were enthralled with his
• 1:26:05
  story. I do think that was a nice
• 1:26:06
  scene. Transition, I stand by that.
• 1:26:08
  Yeah, yeah, sure. And then they also got they were
• 1:26:12
  also their present watching the whole Chris or Kersey getting
• 1:26:15
  hit on and like, just gonna wear his shh.
• 1:26:18
  No man. Like our kids are gonna find ya.
• 1:26:21
  Yeah, I relate to that guy was watching the whole thing play
• 1:26:24
  out. Okay.
• 1:26:26
  Do we have a dream sequel for this?
• 1:26:27
  We can do this because this is not a franchise that were
• 1:26:30
  covering we will cover more. I promise that I want to see I
• 1:26:36
  want to see the the heaven. You will see Heaven?
• 1:26:39
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:26:40
  I wanna see Talia Pinhead. I was Heap up.
• 1:26:42
  Head pop, pop head? Yeah.
• 1:26:46
  Okay, well, okay sure. Yeah, I guess it is interesting.
• 1:26:51
  Like what would a heaven look like and this type of universe?
• 1:26:55
  Write it, you know, and it just made me think of some remember
• 1:26:59
  that time at the Mexican restaurant where they were
• 1:27:01
  playing Puss and Boots. The Last Wish.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah and it was really sad. And we're having a bad time
• 1:27:08
  watching it. That's your Heaven.
• 1:27:09
  No, but it made me think of where they got the map and like
• 1:27:13
  whoever was holding it, it was like their map their world.
• 1:27:18
  Yeah. It was like, what their internal
• 1:27:20
  world was in the moment and so, like, both the cats are going
• 1:27:22
  through and is creepy and mean, and then when the dog does it
• 1:27:26
  like, it's like rainbows. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:28
  So that's yet. Do this with element that
• 1:27:31
  figuration is you hold. It becomes what you wanted to
• 1:27:33
  be. It could be puppet, it could be
• 1:27:36
  Mmhmm. Yeah.
• 1:27:37
  Okay. Then, and this movie, it would
• 1:27:38
  be puppet. I don't think that is the truth
• 1:27:41
  though because I don't think Kirsty wanted to screaming.
• 1:27:44
  Oh no. That's a fucked up family.
• 1:27:49
  We don't really know much about Kersey.
• 1:27:51
  We talked about that. Maybe she is fucked up.
• 1:27:53
  She was sweaty in bed. Yeah, as if that's damning a
• 1:27:59
  gun, she was sweaty. Okay, new tackling.
• 1:28:05
  I mean, I personally liked my Hook Line and Sinker Sinker, I
• 1:28:11
  like that. Okay, cool.
• 1:28:13
  Okay, so got reviews. Okay, there is a Roger Ebert
• 1:28:19
  review. I didn't choose it, but it's a
• 1:28:21
  point five. I just wanted to choose one that
• 1:28:24
  actually had things to say because I feel like, Roger
• 1:28:26
  Ebert. He's just like shit, some things
• 1:28:29
  without actually telling like giving a little jittery reason
• 1:28:32
  why he ate. So he just doesn't like horror
• 1:28:34
  so you know, All right, so this is like a one opt-in on IMDb.
• 1:28:38
  Okay, this person says, I understand that movies from our
• 1:28:42
  youth, sometimes seem better than they are.
• 1:28:44
  I get that in its time. It was likely groundbreaking
• 1:28:47
  however, as someone who hadn't seen it before and therefore had
• 1:28:50
  no nostalgic ties to it, it was an awful waste of time.
• 1:28:53
  I can do with old-school effects.
• 1:28:56
  The special effects makeup was the only impressive part of this
• 1:28:58
  film for me, considering how old it is but the complete lack of
• 1:29:01
  plot and lack of explanation of character motivation, made it
• 1:29:04
  hard to finish. It wasn't entertaining in any
• 1:29:07
  way relying heavily on shot Gore and pretentious over explanation
• 1:29:11
  of the viewer. Also, I was truly disappointed
• 1:29:14
  to find out how not scary and rather weak.
• 1:29:17
  The iconic Pinhead is his demise and the other Centos was highly
• 1:29:21
  unlikely. An utterly unbelievable.
• 1:29:24
  Really sad this didn't live up to the hype.
• 1:29:27
  Yeah, I think this is definitely somebody who heard about
• 1:29:29
  Hellraiser as a franchise and went in expecting one thing and
• 1:29:32
  got the other day I wanted to see.
• 1:29:33
  Cenobites it was a pinhead Kick shit.
• 1:29:36
  But I don't agree with them about it relying on like shock
• 1:29:40
  value and Gore because they then go on to say about how there's
• 1:29:45
  over explanation. Yeah but it's like you said
• 1:29:48
  before it's a drama and I guess clearly this doesn't have to be
• 1:29:52
  everybody's cup of tea cuz yeah, it's all yours.
• 1:29:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  For different reasons. But yeah why is what it is or
• 1:30:01
  how people see it that way. But yeah, I can definitely
• 1:30:03
  understand why somebody would be like let down the first time
• 1:30:06
  they watch this. Yeah.
• 1:30:07
  Like I get it having a built up by all kinds of people and then
• 1:30:10
  you're going in here, and this is what it is.
• 1:30:12
  Yeah. It's see the, it's just one of
• 1:30:13
  those like I just, I understand it, but I don't get it.
• 1:30:17
  Yeah. If that makes any sense, always
• 1:30:20
  you understand it. This person didn't understand
• 1:30:21
  it. I think that they're better off
• 1:30:23
  watching the later Hellraiser movies where they focus more on
• 1:30:27
  this in a B. I mean, even to has a lot more
• 1:30:29
  because they're like, hell, most of the time and that movie, this
• 1:30:32
  movie really wasn't about the son of B know it.
• 1:30:36
  So, but they became so popular that they took over the
• 1:30:38
  franchise but like Julia was supposed to be like the villain
• 1:30:43
  straight. Yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Like Clive Barker even said so himself.
• 1:30:46
  I think so you know take it for what you want but it's
• 1:30:49
  different. It's not.
• 1:30:50
  This isn't that movie? Okay, I got some listener
• 1:30:54
  reviews. Okay, so we will start off on
• 1:30:58
  Instagram Cube saves. He says a comfort movie for me.
• 1:31:01
  I romance Thriller with a sexy pain.
• 1:31:04
  Oh no. A romance Thriller with sexy.
• 1:31:07
  Pain demons. What's not to love.
• 1:31:09
  I do like that description of it.
• 1:31:11
  Yeah, a romance. I think of how people should
• 1:31:13
  always describe this movie. Yeah, with sexy pain.
• 1:31:16
  Yeah. It's not about sex.
• 1:31:17
  Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
• 1:31:21
  Alright, Michael Lee Howard. He's got his, he says, at first
• 1:31:26
  glance Hellraiser seems like a dive into a dark and gross world
• 1:31:29
  of body horror, but at its core Hellraiser is a movie all about
• 1:31:32
  Hedonism and the depravity that This deep inside ourselves does
• 1:31:37
  one given to their urges or resist them.
• 1:31:40
  I have been a fan of this film for years, for a bug Ted movie
• 1:31:43
  from 1987. The effects are pretty good as
• 1:31:46
  well. 8 out of 10. All right.
• 1:31:48
  I like it. Yeah, I think that the, I think
• 1:31:49
  this movie looks great and I embrace the cheesy 80s effects
• 1:31:53
  because it's like, I think just in that one moment gets bad.
• 1:31:58
  I so appreciate it, but I think all the Practical effects are
• 1:32:00
  incredible in this, and I do like the take on it, that it's
• 1:32:04
  like, looking. Young at human depravity and how
• 1:32:07
  will how low you're willing to go.
• 1:32:09
  And I think Julia's character really embodies that especially
• 1:32:13
  because she's like, do do I sink down to this place?
• 1:32:18
  Yeah, it's out on like, a bunch of different levels.
• 1:32:21
  Like, you know, Frank is like, you know, how he'll go.
• 1:32:24
  Yeah, you know, you see that but then yeah, it's pulling somebody
• 1:32:28
  else down to that level 2 and seeing that transition and how
• 1:32:32
  it affects everybody else around them.
• 1:32:34
  It's definitely interesting. I like that.
• 1:32:36
  Take on a lot over on Twitter. Chad says, truly a nun.
• 1:32:41
  Fuck with the bull movie even if the very last scene is wonky
• 1:32:44
  doesn't matter when the rest of the flick is, so damn good.
• 1:32:47
  Yeah, we have literally had just like the last 30 seconds the
• 1:32:49
  movie. Yeah, it's be totally fine.
• 1:32:52
  I think people's problems are like the lightning and the house
• 1:32:55
  just burning down half-heartedly.
• 1:32:58
  I could just doesn't care anymore.
• 1:33:00
  Aqua a boob says oh I remember the VHS cover alone.
• 1:33:04
  Scare the shit out. Me as a kid.
• 1:33:06
  It's creepy, the effects are wild and it has one hell of a
• 1:33:08
  memorable demon or whatever. The fuck Pinhead is yeah, sexy
• 1:33:12
  pain demon. Yeah.
• 1:33:14
  And I had read that, apparently all of the center by its had
• 1:33:18
  speaking Parts originally in the script, but the makeup on the
• 1:33:24
  other two kept them from being able to speak.
• 1:33:26
  So all of the wines went to Pinhead and the throat.
• 1:33:31
  So that's why like Pinhead kind of stole the show.
• 1:33:33
  I think that like, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:33:35
  Guy like the best wines for sure.
• 1:33:37
  I thought deepthroat honestly had like more screen time than
• 1:33:40
  yeah. I think so too.
• 1:33:41
  Yeah. Because like deep throat.
• 1:33:44
  Someone that chases Kersey. Yeah.
• 1:33:46
  Right. After everything goes down.
• 1:33:48
  Like that's the most aggressive said by out of them.
• 1:33:52
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• 1:33:54
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• 1:34:30
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• 1:34:32
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• 1:34:36
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