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Welcome back, football fans. I'm Roberto. This
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is Gridiron Updates. I'm Banter with the boys
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to my right. I got Justin, our in -house Packer
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fan. Introductions in the first episode, if you
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want to get deeper into it. Jacob over here,
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Ravens fan. I'm back. I like it. This is like
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the first time I think we've had three different
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teams all at the table with some different perspectives
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and a little more in -depth on those individual
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teams. So that's always fun to have that going.
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We got Kevin behind the camera. Yo, Kev. Smelty,
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we miss you. We are. This is for you, Smelts.
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Old coach Smelts out there pushing snow. So everyone
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gets into the parking lot safe for at work tomorrow.
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So, yeah. Thank you. Big shout out for you. First
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game of the week. We have the Minnesota Vikings
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versus the Seattle Seachickens. That's for you,
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Tyler. Oh, Seattle coming in at eight and three.
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Vikings on a slide right now to four and seven.
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Looking like we're going to have Max. Brozner?
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Bozner? Bozner? No, I can't even say our backups.
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Starting for McCarthy, who had concussion protocol
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that no one knew about. Suddenly it appeared
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that we talked about. It's going to be a difficult
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game overall. Seattle's kind of dominated the
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meetings. Vikings did pull off a win last year
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to kind of end the streak. What are you thinking
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on this one? Mr. Justin? I think this is going
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to be a tough one for the Vikings. Obviously
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want to see them pull it out to keep things competitive
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in the whole NFC landscape. Less kids. I think
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the biggest matchup here will be the passing
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defense versus the passing offense. You look
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at Minnesota, they're ranked, I think, 6th or
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7th in overall passing defense when you look
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at yards per game given up in a florist defense.
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You look at what Sam Darnold and co., former
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Viking, is looking to do and what he's done this
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year. I think that's going to be the matchup
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to watch. You look at JSN and Justin Jefferson
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lining up for their prospective teams. I think
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if both teams can get the ball out and protect
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the... quarterback you'll see fireworks i'm excited
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to see what max can max can do um it's always
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fun when you see someone get their shot you've
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got a defense that doesn't have a ton of tape
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on him besides college like looking at what he's
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done so far in the pros and his limited um he
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is a rookie too yeah so this will be a fun one
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from that perspective i would imagine a lot of
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aaron jones um we hope and i think if the vikings
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can contain the passing defense of sam donald
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and company like you'll have a game but i'm a
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little nervous about this one for uh for the
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Vikings based on what's going on with JJ and
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just where the team's at right now. So which
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direction are you going? Got to pick a winner
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here. I'm going Seattle. Seattle, sea chickens
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for Justin. I had a feeling I was going that
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direction. The other purple in the house. All
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right. We're going to carry on. So I went 5 -0
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last week. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I went 4 -1. Pretty
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good. Pretty good. It's not 5 -0. So I'm going
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to carry the streak. We're going with the sea
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chickens. They're at home, so Minnesota's traveling
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on a short week. Minnesota's traveling. Yeah,
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it's like seven days. Yeah, that's a short week.
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It is. JSN's Offensive Player of the Year right
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now, I think, hands down. Agreed. Jonathan Taylor's
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cooled off, so JSN does everything as far as
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all of the routes. He runs them all, and Darnold
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just gets him the ball. McConnell's defense is...
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to slowing down this Viking offense, especially
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if they're going to be trying to leverage a ground
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game because a ground game is a backup quarterback's
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best friend. Yes, sir. So, yeah, they're going
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to focus on shutting down JJ, put eight in the
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box, stop the run, and, yeah, it's a no -brainer.
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Sorry, Vikings, your woes continue right now.
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Bunch of haters up here. It is what it is. So
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this game is kind of, it's really funny. You
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talked about Sam Darnold playing against JSNs
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is killing it. It really worries me as Vikings
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is Walker and Sharma. Vikings always defense
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struggles against really good running attack.
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I know Seattle doesn't really pound the ball
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as much as they probably could. So the Vikings
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defense, heavy blitz. So that'll be that interesting
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matchup, whether they can get Sam. We saw it
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as Vikings fans. If you can get Sam off his spot,
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that's when things start going a little right
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for him. So it's that first look to that JSN.
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You need to really make sure that he goes to
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the second, third option. That's where I think
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the Vikings could have success in that game plan.
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I haven't really seen... I guess Max play enough,
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which really scares me. So like you said, they're
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going to have to have 150 yards on the ground
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to even contention on this, which I think they're
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going to do. And a couple balls are going to
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bounce. And the Vikings are going to sneak out
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a dumb one, 16 to 15. Are you suggesting that
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Max, because he's going to have a chip in a chair?
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This is going to be able to, like, give him a
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win. This is that moment. Chip in a chair. You're
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in the tournament still. All in. That's where
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we're going right now because we're four and
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seven. That's the only direction we can go is
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up or right off the cliff. I was actually having
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a conversation with somebody, actually my kid,
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about if the Vikings had a top. Actually, Tyler,
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we were talking about last night. If the Vikings
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end up with a top ten pick, what position would
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he go? And we talked. I would secondary for sure.
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Cornerback is definitely where we need to get
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a little better. And then he brought a middle
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linebacker. As a Vikings fan, we haven't had
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one in a while that's been a stud. So that's
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a really fun fact. I just don't think the Vikings
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are going to get weird. Also, I'm a homer, so
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I can't go any other direction. So on to the
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next game. Next game. Next game. The Atlanta
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Falcons versus your New York Jets. Jets. Jets.
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Yeah. You picked these games. I did pick these
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games. This game obviously intrigued you in some
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point. The spread. The spread, which is at? Two
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and a half. Two and a half. We'll go with that.
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Can't bet here on this banter of the boys. No
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gambling advice. But what was your take on this
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one? Two ugly teams. Two ugly teams. Just kind
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of like swinging hands. Let's see what happens.
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Jets have been competitive over the last couple
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of weeks. A bunch of competitive L's? Yeah. Bringing
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that back from last year, right? Yeah. Competitive
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L's for a bad team. You kind of have to take
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that and accept it and grow from it. I mean,
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Lions did that with Campbell in his first year.
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Kerkel's getting the start, I believe, right?
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Yes. Okay. Yep. Yeah, because Penix is out for
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the remainder of the year. Yeah. And we don't
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know on London yet. Sorry, I'm just throwing
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some information. He was out last week. Yeah,
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he could still be out. Just giving you all the
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information before you pick him. But, yeah, we're
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going to see a lot of Bijan Robinson. I think
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the Jets will do a pretty good job of containing
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him, like they did with Derrick Henry last week.
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Because their defense is probably their better
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part of the team, I would say. So what direction
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are you going here? I'm going to pick Falcons.
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Dirty birds. Yep. They just have, I feel like
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they have a better offensive set of weapons right
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now. They do. But they keep losing to teams in
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that same conversation. That's true. Like, we
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don't know. Yeah, the Falcons are a Jekyll and
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Hyde team, so we don't know which one we're going
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to get. Hopefully you're going to see a whole
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lot of B. John Robbins. All right, the Falcons
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lead the all -time series 9 -5. What direction
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are you feeling here, Justin? gonna go with jake
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and also choose the falcons i think you're gonna
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see a lot of bijan robinson uh it's clear since
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sauce uh was traded the the defensive rankings
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for passing yards defensively for the jets keep
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going down in the wrong way So I look at someone
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like a Kyle Pitts. I look at Kirk Cousins' relationship
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with Darnell Mooney. I think you're going to
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see a lot of Pitts, Mooney, Bijan, Heavy. They'll
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win an ugly game by three or four points. Yeah,
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it's just weird, though. I feel like... Having
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conversations about the Falcons, we have that
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same thing. We're always like, oh, yeah, they're
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just going to pound B. John Robinson and they're
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going to walk away by the third quarter to be
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over. And it just doesn't ever seem to happen.
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Yeah. I mean, is it just the pass happy NFL that
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these coaches are like, oh, I can get a three,
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four yard pass versus a three, four yard runs?
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Or do they just try to get cute on their play
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calling like, oh, we need to get super creative
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to get B. John the ball. And then the play kind
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of blows up. I feel like they're just trying
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to be cute because Jameer Gibbs was drafted the
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same year Bijan was. And everybody lost their
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minds. Like, why are the Lions drafting Jameer
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Gibbs? And the Lions are using Jameer Gibbs the
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way that he's intended to be as a dual threat
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running back. Yeah. And they got Algier there,
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too, as, you know, the Montgomery, too. So you
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can spell them. Right. So it doesn't have to
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be 50 carries out of him. No. So they're just.
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They're not using him to his fullest potential,
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and it's a crime. Interesting. Fun fact, Falcons
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defense has got nine consecutive quarters without
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allowing a touch on the longest active street
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in the NFL right now. I think one thing that's
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really interesting when you look at this matchup
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is the. Current defensive coordinator was the
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defensive coordinator for the Jets last year.
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So you have a mix of that tough Jets defense
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in there. So when I've watched Falcons games,
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they get a little ugly, kind of like how the
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Jets defense typically plays. I think one thing
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we haven't talked about that will be interesting
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to watch in this one will be Brees Hall. Less
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carries, but he has been a stud, especially when
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they've had to depend on him the last few weeks.
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So I think he's going to be a key here, too.
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And he's a free agent coming up. up next year
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too so he's probably gonna be one of the top
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backs uh going after as a vikings fan i mean
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taking a look i remember sure i remember some
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of them um pre -season conversation about actually
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trading for him because i think it was when that
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sauce gardner trade was going i think some people
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were throwing briefs into that conversation which
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i i mean i'd take either of them um but for the
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colts i haven't watched enough colts to know
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if that trade's really paying off they keep losing
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so i guess it doesn't really matter yeah um right
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on that game was was it two and a half two and
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a half sure we'll go with that so i said two
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and a half so i'm sticking with it all right
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kevin says it's time to move on you've been talking
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for way too long um i am actually i gotta make
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a pick here oh yeah you do fuck it that's how
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we're rolling all right Next game, Texans versus
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the Colts. Colts come in in 8 -3, Texans 6 -5.
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I mean, this is a big game for both teams. Especially
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the Colts, I think. Texans conference. Oh, this
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is a conference game, isn't it? Yeah, division
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game. Division game. I mean, if the Texans win
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this, they're right back in it. Like two weeks
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ago, three weeks ago, you almost felt like it
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was over. jace uh jc stroud kind of playing a
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little bit um yeah i that's a really interesting
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i'm actually gonna pick the colts on this one
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i will go first on it uh tell us why I will tell
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you why. Because I really like the Texas defense,
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but the run is probably their week or two of
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the points. And maybe this is the week where
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the Colts actually give Jonathan Taylor. He's
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got to have touched the ball 25, 30 times, which
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I think they probably will do. That'll be really
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interesting matchup with Nico Collins and Sauce.
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We'll see if Sauce follows him around the field.
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The Texans do have a good deep. I really like,
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you know. uh hunter and will smith um playing
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for them and then who's their middle linebacker
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azir yeah um he's been a stud a couple late hits
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all the time but yeah i'm gonna go with the colts
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on this one which way are you going justin i'm
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actually gonna go opposite and choose the text
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i knew the texans when we look at their defensive
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rankings their third and passing their fifth
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and rushing i think what's gonna i think what
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it's going to boil down to. And I don't know
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the answer to this. Is CJ Stroud playing or not?
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The coach is being very coy about saying, is
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he going to play and is he not? And that's a
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little bit of gamesmanship probably happening
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there as well. But I think that'll be the key
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piece. They haven't looked completely awful with
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Davis Mills. It's a reason why they probably
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struggle in games if they had their true line
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out there. But with how much they're on the field,
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the offense is doing enough to... Give the defense
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a break, and the defense is doing enough to keep
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them in games. Again, this is going to be one
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of those Jets' ugly wins, but I'm picking the
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Texans to slightly edge out the Colts and continue
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to slow them down. I don't think the Colts get
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back on track until next week. Okay, okay, okay.
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Jacob? I think... This is actually not about
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what I think. It's what I believe. I believe
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the Texans are going to win. The C .J. Stroud,
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Davis Mills, question mark. I don't want to sleep
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on that or poo -poo it. Poo -poo. It's a legitimate
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concern, but we've seen Davis Mills has already
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won twice with them already under center. And
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he's played. Two years ago, he was the starting
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quarterback. So he's been around. He's familiar
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with the team, the offensive playbook, the culture,
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all of that stuff. It's for me going to be. The
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Texans' defense, I finally got to watch them
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for the first time against the Bills on Thursday,
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and I was just amazed with how fast they fly
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around, how hard they're hitting people. They
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got after Josh Allen like crazy. I mean, even
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if the Colts want to try and run the ball, instead
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of blitzing, like you just do a run blitz instead,
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your priority is always going to be a running
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back before you carry on to... What? Daniel Jones?
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Yeah, Daniel Jones. Daniel Dimes? Indiana Jones.
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Indiana Jones. That's what Collinsworth said
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on Sunday. I got it. That's his newest. I don't
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know. I'm quoting Chris Collinsworth on this
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show. Here's an interesting stat for you as I'm
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listening to you two talk. The Texans on defense
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rank second in third down percentages allowed.
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meaning they give up the second fewest. The Colts
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are 28th. So I think about Woody Marks, and he's
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emerging as that running back. Can they stop
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him in those situations? And I think that'll
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be a big part to this game. And are they going
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to do what the Chiefs did last week to the Colts
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and have long drives, do just enough to keep
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the defense on the field, maybe get quite a few
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field goals? If this is a Davis -Mills game,
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I mean, I watched him play last Monday too. he
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might get one or two touchdowns. I think it's
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going to be a lot of long drives, a lot of field
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goals with what the Colts are trying to do on
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defense. But that will be an interesting component
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to watch. Yeah, they're going to – I mean, that's
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what I think they need. I think both teams. That's
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why I think this is going to be a low -scoring
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game. I think the long drives are controlling
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the ball. What was my little thing that I kind
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of thought I saw? Houston's won the last three
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games against the Colts. And Texans are unbeaten
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their last nine division road games. So that's
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pretty impressive for division games. So, yeah,
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I mean, it's all back to the CJ. If CJ plays,
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I do trust Mills if I was a Texans fan going
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into it. Like you said, Willard Marks can get
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going against the Colts. Leonard's got to step
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up for the linebacker for the Colts to contain
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him. So it should be a good one. I'm guessing.
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I don't have the over -under on that. But I could
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see this one in the low 20s. That might be generous.
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It might be generous. It's a four and a half
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spread. Four and a half for Indy. Yep. Texans
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and Colts. That was game three. Let's move on
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to game number four. We have your Bucklow Bills,
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Circle the Wagons versus the Yinzers out of Pittsburgh.
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Yeah. Steelers, seven and four, the Bills. Were
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they last two of the last three, I believe? Mm
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-hmm. Steelers, six and five. Hopeful to have
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Rodgers back, which makes this a way more entertaining,
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fun game. Josh Allen has looked a little not
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as MVP style the last few, especially that Miami
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game three weeks ago. Ever since then, and I
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think that was coming off a bye, if I remember
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right. Which way do you feel like you're going
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to go with this one, Jacob? Or are you looking
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at some information right now? I've been seesawing
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back and forth on this one. Seesaw. Part of me
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is like the Steelers, they're at home. Crowd's
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going to be wild. Three and a half the spread
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for Buffalo. Because it's crunch time. The Steelers'
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defense is still really solid. Until the end
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of the game against Chicago last week. Yeah.
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But we've seen how the Bills deal with. Tough,
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aggressive defenses. Like the Texans, they did
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nothing. But that's where I think Allen, with
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his ability to get out of the pocket, it's hard
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to blitz running quarterbacks. You've got to
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get them. Because then you're playing man -to
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-man on the backside. But Pittsburgh doesn't
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even need... I feel like Pittsburgh has an equally
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good front seven where they don't necessarily
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need to blitz. Fair. Just like the Texans were
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able to get home with four. They talk about lane
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integrity, going straight up and then doubling
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back, not going past how far back Josh Allen
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is dropping back, so that way you can chase better.
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We forgot to mention Cooks got picked up by the
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Bills for another weapon, so I wanted to add
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that in there quick. I was like, is that going
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to be? It's like, oh, all they're going to do
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is just go deep, right? I mean, do what you're
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good at. Yeah, chuck and pray. Go get it. But
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I feel like over the last couple of games, the
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way that Josh Allen has played, I think we're
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going to see a Superman Josh Allen, and we're
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going to— The redemption game, okay. Yeah, we're
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going to take Buffalo over Pittsburgh. All right.
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Oh, I'll send it over to you, Go Pack Go. So
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I'm also going to pick the Bills. Circling the
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wagons. I'm getting surrounded over here. Kevin,
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I need help. I agree with you. It will be more
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exciting if Rodgers plays. I think it makes it
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a very entertaining game. I think the biggest
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question mark for Buffalo right now is if Dalton
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Kincaid plays. You see the difference when he's
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on the field versus not. So I think that's a
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big deal. I do think Buffalo is getting to the
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point in their season where they're going to
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play a little bit desperate, even though they
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don't quite need to. They're chasing New England.
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I think there's still one more important game
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between them, so if they can keep pace and within
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range, if the Patriots fall just a little bit,
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they want to be within a situation that they
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can grab it 100%. Something like that. I think
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the thing that concerns me if I'm a Steelers
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fan the most with this game is the Steelers rank
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28th in rushing, and the Bills rank number one
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between Josh Allen and James Cook. I think they
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feast on the rush. To your point around lane
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integrity, it's hard to do that when... You think
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it's a rush, and then Josh Allen comes out, and
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maybe it is a rush, maybe it's a pass. I think
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that's going to cause some fits for that Steelers
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defense. I feel like I'm disrespecting them by
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saying what I'm going to say, but I think the
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Bills are going to tear them up. They're not
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as good as they have been in previous years.
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There's still flashes of greatness, but they
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have some stuff they have to figure out when
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they're as low in rushing and as low in points
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and total yards as they are. They're near the
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bottom of the league in some of these. that they
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need to clean up, and I think the Bills and Josh
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Allen are going to take advantage. Yeah, I mean,
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I will join your little horse ride. I'm going
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Buffalo Bills, too. Yeah. Finally, we agree on
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something. I know. But you're kind of really
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seeing, though, the Buffaloes missing a true
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number one. And like you mentioned, Kincaid's
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out. And Kincaid's probably their number one.
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And Josh in scenarios, he can create separation.
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He has the big body. Even if he's covered, you
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can still just throw it right on and make that
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catch. I think some of those, that's why they
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picked up Cooks to kind of stretch that backside
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defense, maybe get some other. Shakir, he hasn't
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really. He's been pretty quiet. Pretty quiet.
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Coleman, we were talking about, I think, off
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-air. There seems to be maybe some locker room
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issues, missing practice. So something's not
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vibing in that receiver room right now, especially
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over the last few weeks. I agree with you. Cook
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definitely needs a cook. But that's against the
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Steelers. If they stop the run, that's when they
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become really effective because their secondary
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is one of the better in the league with Porter
22:31
back there and with Ramsey. Who's the other guy?
22:34
And the other guy is a stud, too, a game thing.
22:36
And they got a pretty good linebacking court,
22:38
too. So even that matchup up against Kincaid.
22:41
But I just think the Bills, exactly, they need
22:43
this game bad, especially after the Patriots
22:46
have been dominating and kind of they got a two
22:49
-game lead on them right now. So I am going with
22:53
the Buffalo Bills, too. yeah josh allen gets
22:58
sacked eight times last week because the career
23:01
most and i just don't see that happening um even
23:04
though the steelers have forced 10 turnovers
23:06
in the last four games too so i think it's gonna
23:08
be a close one but i do think the bills i don't
23:10
think it's gonna be a blowout shootout just because
23:13
also it's on grass and it's also in pittsburgh
23:15
so i can see that first half being a little slower
23:18
um But that's game five. Let's move on to our
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fifth and final. Save the best for last. The
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Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl participants last
23:30
year. Six and five. Starting to warm up. Dallas
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Cowboys coming off a game that they should have
23:39
not won last week. Holy cow. Down 21 to the Philadelphia
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Eagles. Cry, Eagles, cry. Patrick Holmes playing
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a little bit better. Rice is really coming into
23:54
his own right now. Pacheco need big time. I mean,
24:00
Hunt's been a nice little filler, but they need
24:02
a guy that's a game changer. There's more of
24:05
a super threat. And that's when my home starts
24:09
to get that play action rolling. And that's when
24:11
they get naughty. And that's where Kelsey starts
24:14
feeding over the middle to you get rice rolling.
24:21
Cowboys, you were talking about Pickens earlier.
24:23
Great signing. Lamb, case of the drops this year.
24:28
Butterfingers. Do you remember that last week
24:30
one where you kind of pointed out to them? I'm
24:32
like, yeah, but it also hit you right in the
24:34
back. I know that you had some hands that probably
24:36
distracted them. I'm going Chiefs. I just think
24:40
it's Chiefs time. Yep. And I think the Cowboys'
24:46
luck definitely. was fulfilled last week so this
24:52
might be a blowout this might be a turkey day
24:56
overcooked it sorry grandma what are you feeling
25:02
justin i'm gonna agree with you i think the worst
25:07
thing that happened to dallas was winning last
25:09
week because that is not a game they had any
25:13
business being in at all they didn't get invited
25:15
to thanksgiving no they're sitting at the kids
25:18
table maybe maybe for you know i think the big
25:21
thing here is whenever teams have such an emotional
25:25
win like that the next week is just the air is
25:30
deflated out of the balloon. I think that's what
25:33
you're going to see from Dallas this week. I
25:36
really think if George Pickens does not play,
25:38
that is big for Dallas. If you look at the stats
25:42
between him and CeeDee Lamb, he has 400 more
25:44
yards than CeeDee Lamb. There is a true connection
25:46
between him and Dak. True, true. But you look
25:51
at even since CeeDee's been back, it's... It's
25:54
very clear who the number one is and who the
25:57
number two is. And to your point, with the case
25:59
of the drops, what does that do if they get going
26:02
and C .D.'s wide open and he drops something?
26:05
And that derails the whole drive. Well, it's
26:07
happened. Kansas City's going to see it, and
26:09
they're going to take advantage of it. And to
26:11
your point, they're heating up at the right time.
26:13
Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. He's Mr.
26:16
Late November, for sure Mr. December. They're
26:19
getting rolling. I would not want to play them
26:21
right now, taking the Chiefs. The only thing
26:23
I feel could stop the Chiefs is their own division
26:25
because their division is good. But this game.
26:31
Which way are you going here, Cowboys? Why would
26:36
I pick the Cowboys? I don't know. I had something
26:38
else in my head that came out weird. The Chiefs
26:44
are getting healthy at the right time. uh so
26:48
getting pacheco back cream i still i think cream
26:50
hunts a better running back in the chief system
26:52
than pacheco is that's not to say that pacheco
26:55
fair isn't like isn't useless in the system i've
27:00
always felt like pacheco runs hard runs angry
27:04
he gets the tough yards when you need them yeah
27:06
uh and he's perfect for that and then cream hunt
27:09
is more of that play action um uh getting out
27:14
and doing the screens and stuff like that i mean
27:17
think of chubb back in the day he was somewhat
27:20
near pacheco speed so you had that combination
27:22
with that patience setting up the blocks that's
27:25
why i would totally agree that he's actually
27:26
better running back yeah just pacheco is just
27:29
a freak athlete he just beats guys to the corner
27:31
um uh yeah rice being back it's everything screams
27:38
right now that We're coming. Yeah, Kansas City's
27:42
coming. The AFC needs to be looking out. I thought
27:48
that Dallas was going to be flat last week. Which
27:53
they were the first half. The first half, absolutely,
27:55
because they had that great win the week before
27:59
against the Raiders because they're like the
28:02
whole player. killing himself rip oh yeah and
28:07
the all of the emotion tied into that from going
28:10
from the bye week to all of a sudden you're now
28:12
having to play and then that was to me the emotional
28:17
game is coming back and playing and so they were
28:23
flat against the eagles and then they rallied
28:25
so um giovante williams is going to continue
28:29
to run hard um Xavier Worthy's kind of fallen
28:32
off the face of the planet a little bit with
28:34
Rice coming back. For sure. Which is concerning.
28:41
I mean, that's Worthy's game. Three for 98 and
28:44
a touchdown or something. I'm going to go with
28:49
the Cowboys. I knew you were. God, I could just
28:52
smell it on your boots. I just feel like they're
28:56
building on something right now. That there's
29:00
a that there's a momentum there and they're at
29:03
home on Thanksgiving Day. Kind of like that last
29:06
time last year where the Redskins kind of got
29:08
hot in this. You know, they were kind of that
29:10
middle team. They just ripped off a bunch because
29:12
it's two in a row. Could happen for sure. You
29:14
know, I mean, the NFL is just weird in that way.
29:17
You know, it's been a weird season. Every year
29:19
is freaking weird. This will be an interesting
29:21
game because you look at the points that these
29:24
defenses are giving. and there's about a 10 -point
29:26
disparity between what Kansas City gives up and
29:29
what Dallas gives up, with Dallas giving up about
29:31
28, 29 points per game and Kansas City about
29:34
18. It's going to be interesting. I could see
29:36
it going the way you're talking, 100%. They're
29:38
still riding off the emotion of what's his name?
29:42
Last name? Nealon. So they're still riding off
29:46
of the emotion there. They're at home. It's Thanksgiving.
29:49
It's a tradition. They want to show up well.
29:52
There's a lot for them to prove here, so this
29:53
will be a game to watch, no doubt. A lot of football
29:56
is going in that giant red Salvation Army bucket.
29:59
This game, I definitely, because I'm just looking
30:01
at the over -unders at 52 .5, which is tied for
30:04
the highest in the league, only with Baltimore
30:07
and Cincinnati. Especially if Joe Burrow plays,
30:12
you're like, oh, 52 .5. KC favored by three,
30:17
which is kind of interesting. um in dallas so
30:22
yeah uh i think that's about wraps it up and
30:26
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