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Effective Immediately: Jill Scott Says Chris Brown’s The King of Pop + Jcole & NBA YoungBoy take over! · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
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  Speaker 1: and everybody.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
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  Speaker 2: came in.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, what's up. It's Laura l. Rosa and this
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  Speaker 3: is the Latest with Laura Rosa.
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  Speaker 1: This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
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  Speaker 1: and all of the conversations that shake the room. Now,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of rooms, you guys will notice we are not
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  Speaker 1: in our for all of our viewers, you guys will
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  Speaker 1: notice that we are not in our normal Latest with
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  Speaker 1: Laura Rosa the podcast studio because we are on location.
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  Speaker 3: The Latest is on location.
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  Speaker 1: We are here in La And for all of my
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  Speaker 1: listeners and viewers, we have a guest. You'll notice that
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  Speaker 1: there's a second voice in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Greetings and salutations Earth humans.
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  Speaker 3: Why you just can't be like, hey, y'all, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: DJ Head?
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  Speaker 2: Hey y'all, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: So DJ Head is joining us.
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  Speaker 1: We are here in La, so of course I had
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  Speaker 1: to pull up effective immediately all of us.
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  Speaker 2: Like the I like the word here. Do you see
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  Speaker 2: what I did? Do? Yeah? Don't not coming out of
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  Speaker 2: wrap aub more? Please?
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  Speaker 3: Don't what made you say that? Though?
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  Speaker 2: This might be because you tried to like combined put
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  Speaker 2: words together in a in a pattern like way, and
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  Speaker 2: so I don't. But I don't want you to be
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  Speaker 2: a rappers.
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  Speaker 3: You know I been.
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  Speaker 2: We need more plumbers and electrician.
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  Speaker 3: You think I'm going to do that?
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  Speaker 1: No shade to the people that are plumbers electricians, But
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  Speaker 1: do I look like I could even get through that
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  Speaker 1: as a work as a job.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see you plumbing, No, I could see No.
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  Speaker 2: Actually I see you, Okay, I see you being more
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  Speaker 2: of a plumber than electrician. I think you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because plumbing doesn't. I think you have the capability to
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  Speaker 2: snake a toilet. I don't think you have the capability
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  Speaker 2: of knowing.
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  Speaker 3: You think I'm dumb?
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  Speaker 2: Which gauge wire?
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  Speaker 3: You think I'm dumb? You think I'm dumb?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I want you to know I know
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  Speaker 3: a lot about both of them.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, I didn't say I've.
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  Speaker 3: Watched people literally build bathrooms my mom with like her
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  Speaker 3: own hands, so I know a lot about it A
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  Speaker 3: little bit or I'm not stupid.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say you was stupid.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think that I was put on this
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  Speaker 3: earth to be either.
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  Speaker 2: I just it just firefighters too.
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  Speaker 3: No shade to the firefighters, but does.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, I think you can put out a fire.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and it's your birthday, happy birth?
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  Speaker 3: Why can't I rap? No?
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  Speaker 1: I seriously, I've always said like I wish. I just
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  Speaker 1: said that the other day, like I wish. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do it because I'm not as good
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  Speaker 1: as like I would want to be. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we was listening to like some old comment. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: I really wish that I had the ability to rap,
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  Speaker 1: but like rap like that like a real like like
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  Speaker 1: common black thought, like you know, like Foxy, like it
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  Speaker 1: got to be like some where you like feel it
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  Speaker 1: in your soul, in your spirit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if whatever you choose to do with your life,
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  Speaker 2: I support you. Except DJ and like ceremonial things, if
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  Speaker 2: you ever have like a graduation.
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  Speaker 1: Or a wedding. I just asked head to DJ my wedding, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, we get married. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't do weddings.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, my wedding is not going to be
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  Speaker 3: like oh wedding.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be like a culture phenomena, like
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  Speaker 1: they gonna want Part two of a wedding. He like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't do weddings because brides are hell. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be hell. I'm my hell. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so easy going ish, depending on the vibe most of
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, all women are hell.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, can I tell you the truth about.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel like he wanted to say all black
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  Speaker 1: women are hell, but he just support black women.
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  Speaker 2: So my whole team is a black women. But that's
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  Speaker 2: not just besides the point. Okay, can I just tell
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  Speaker 2: you briefly. This is not none to do with the latest,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll tell you briefly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hold on before you tell me briefly, we do
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  Speaker 1: check in behind the scenes of the ground.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't seen each other, we haven't talked.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't talked in a while, like normally I'm calling
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  Speaker 1: ahead and like he's literally like like coaching.
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  Speaker 3: Me through a lot of the things.
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  Speaker 2: Out.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I think you have to really
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  Speaker 1: know me to know that I'm like a crash out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like because other than that, I think people think and
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  Speaker 1: I love because you're very poised, yes, so, and I
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  Speaker 1: love that you know, people are like you know, they
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  Speaker 1: see it all together. But I'm like, in real life,
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  Speaker 1: I think anybody that's like really passionate about what they
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  Speaker 1: do or creative and like passionate at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: the elimited crash out that you're willing to do is
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  Speaker 1: insane and you need somebody that like gathers you. And
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  Speaker 1: this year or last year, twenty twenty five, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like God really blessed me with a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: in my life that like gather me together. So we're
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  Speaker 1: checking it behind the scenes of the grind Head is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, captain, don't crash out, go now tell your story.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So it's just I wasn't talking about the DJ thing.
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  Speaker 3: Real quick, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just that people are inconsiderate, which I'm sure. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, like people think radio hosts, they think podcasts
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  Speaker 2: all you do is just sit and talk. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you don't understand that there's research. If you have an
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  Speaker 2: author on the show, you have to read the book. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you have. If I have the cast the Beauty
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  Speaker 2: in Black on my show, I have to watch the
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  Speaker 2: entire season so that way I can speak to their
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  Speaker 2: character arcs.
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  Speaker 3: What's your preparation to djail.
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  Speaker 2: The DJ whenever someone asked do a wedding. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: let's run a scenario. Hey, can I ask you asked
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  Speaker 2: me can I do your wedding? Right?
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  Speaker 3: I'm married and I didn't even finish asking you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they don't want to sit through this. How many hours?
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  Speaker 2: How many hours do you? Like, when do you need
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  Speaker 2: me to DJ?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the time slot.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, just to me. How many hours? Do you know?
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  Speaker 2: How long? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Probably for like two hours?
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  Speaker 1: So you need me to J for two hours because
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be like a like our our reception
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  Speaker 1: is going to be like a like a like kind
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  Speaker 1: of like almost like a DJ, like you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like multiple sets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so two hours? Okay? Bet. So typically when
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  Speaker 2: people ask you the DJ, let's say you need for
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  Speaker 2: two hours. Let's say it's six to eight right, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's not necessarily including setup time, that's not including rehearsals,
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  Speaker 2: that's not including anything. So when people be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: how much for an hour? I mean how much for
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  Speaker 2: two hours? No, you're asking me how much for two weeks?
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  Speaker 2: Because I mean and then also the two hours usually
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  Speaker 2: comes with with the sound systems and stuff like people
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  Speaker 2: don't usually equate that into their into their thing. And
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  Speaker 2: what I've also this is all trauma. Yeah. I've also
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  Speaker 2: dumping right now is people never include the DJ and
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  Speaker 2: the head count for meals. They don't feed you. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I have door dashed at a wedding, but don't you have.
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  Speaker 1: I just assume this because you're so particular about everything
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  Speaker 1: else in your life? Are you very particular about what
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  Speaker 1: you eat?
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  Speaker 2: I'm pescatarian, okay, and I don't do eggs.
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, Well, first of all, it'll be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different over on this side because between me and
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  Speaker 1: Bay like we're like like we're producing in events and
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  Speaker 1: we do that and have done it for some time,
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  Speaker 1: dealing with talent, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I mean. Like, it's it's it's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit different over here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm down, down, you're my friend. I'm down to make
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  Speaker 2: sure you.
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  Speaker 1: Get a little what fish you fish a little fish
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  Speaker 1: like you'll get the fish that you need because the prescatary, yes,
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  Speaker 1: do you not eat certain fish?
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to lopy? What is that? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: We won't have to add the wedding.
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  Speaker 2: Hey man, listen, niggas be cutting corner.
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  Speaker 3: Yo, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Niggas be cutting corner.
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  Speaker 3: You won't have to do dash at my wedding, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I promise you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm down. You in, I'm down.
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  Speaker 3: We have this on video.
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck I could. I'll back out
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  Speaker 2: on video too.
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  Speaker 3: They got that is it your birthday? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: What did you Your birthday just passed? I know you
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  Speaker 1: don't celebrate, but hold.
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  Speaker 3: On, what is it you do? You celebrate your birthday?
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  Speaker 2: Defiance celebrate?
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  Speaker 3: Do you acknowledge it in real life?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the year that the day came.
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  Speaker 3: And when the day came, what did you do on
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  Speaker 3: the day.
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  Speaker 2: I sat in my draws in my office in my house,
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  Speaker 2: and I worked, and then I went to go eat
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  Speaker 2: with my mom.
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  Speaker 3: And so you went out and did something with family.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of like, see women do this thing
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  Speaker 2: where they make your shit about them. Like I told her,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything, and she's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I want to take you out for your birthday your mom? Yeah, nigga,
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  Speaker 2: what you mean human beings just make Okay, let me
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  Speaker 2: ask my mom.
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  Speaker 3: That's a day for her too.
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  Speaker 2: She had you still, Yeah, but let me ask you
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  Speaker 2: a question.
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  Speaker 3: That is a head that is so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take Mom's out of it. You're in a great relationship,
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  Speaker 2: you have a great guy, make amazing god, great energy,
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  Speaker 2: all of the things right, look at you Smith, you
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  Speaker 2: discussed me. Okay, let's tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: DJ head is like one of the only people I
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  Speaker 1: know who consistently is against anything that is like like regular,
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  Speaker 1: like if you if it's like relationships, if it's like
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  Speaker 1: the like just food, if it's anything that's like regular
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  Speaker 1: and easy.
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  Speaker 3: He is a complete opposite.
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  Speaker 1: Like just saying hello, hi, my name is DJ head'
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  Speaker 1: is like hello, intertutural human, like I've never met a
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  Speaker 1: person more different.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you. So let's say your your man's boyfriend,
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  Speaker 2: your man's uh that pause, your man's birthday is coming,
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  Speaker 2: and he tells you, hey, I'm a big fan of
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  Speaker 2: the Lakers. What would you do? Oh, we're gonna go.
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  Speaker 3: To a Lakers game, probably Court signed. I probably try
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  Speaker 3: to get him back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, why are you going?
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  Speaker 3: Because where who else you going with?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, let me okay, so look if no, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I probably would try and find a way to
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  Speaker 1: ask if if it's a thing of like does he
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  Speaker 1: want to go with the homies or does he like
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  Speaker 1: I have to figure that out because I would want
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  Speaker 1: it to be a surprise. But I don't give a
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to Sorry, I don't really cuss on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, and you're making me cussed a lot because
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  Speaker 1: you're I'm not making you are because why can't I
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  Speaker 1: go to the game?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say you couldn't go to the game. I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: why do you want to take him to the game?
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  Speaker 3: Because I want to see him enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: It's his birthday, yes, but why do you feel good
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  Speaker 2: to see him? Why you want to feel good on
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  Speaker 2: his birthday?
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  Speaker 1: Because if I feel good, I mean, if he feels good,
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  Speaker 1: I feel good, and then we feel good.
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  Speaker 2: That's my point. That's my point right there. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 2: your birthday is the one day that you're allowed to
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  Speaker 2: be selfish and it's socially acceptable. Why can't my birthday
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  Speaker 2: be what I want to do without interference from other humans,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of their status in my life. So if I
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  Speaker 2: want to sit in my draws and work on my
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  Speaker 2: computer in my office with the door closed all day,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want you to pop up in my
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  Speaker 2: house and surprise me with balloons and cake. I'm just asking, No, Gina,
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  Speaker 2: Gina and my team surprised me at the radio station.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw that video with balloon.
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  Speaker 2: Balloons and cake.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm I'm it's okay to like, I'm not discounting
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  Speaker 4: you want to like, if it's his birthday and I
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  Speaker 4: love him, I want to make I want to see
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  Speaker 4: him be happy.
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  Speaker 3: That makes me fuk makes me happy.
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  Speaker 2: It's my birthday.
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming I'm doing what makes you happy because I.
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  Speaker 2: Know if I told you. Okay, let's say your boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: told you, Hey, I want to sit at the house
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  Speaker 2: and play call of duty for my whole birthday. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to hear from you. Don't call, don't pull.
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  Speaker 3: Up all day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you cool with that? No, it's his.
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  Speaker 3: Birthday, yes, but like we don't even like how I'm gon.
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  Speaker 2: Go a whole day with It's his birthday, so basically
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  Speaker 2: just all just in black and white. He can't do
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  Speaker 2: what he want to do on his birthday. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you like on principle boo,
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  Speaker 1: because that's gonna be another three hours. About the systems
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  Speaker 1: and the women and breaking down the patriarchy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that it's it's just the way the
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  Speaker 2: way things are set up. People are not allowed to
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  Speaker 2: do what they want to do for them on in
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  Speaker 2: the day is about them. I'm not saying that people
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't celebrate you. And I'm very appreciative of my team
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  Speaker 2: and my and my mom and everybody. But I'm just
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  Speaker 2: saying I never I don't do that anymore. I used
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  Speaker 2: to do that. I used to say, don't buy me nothing,
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  Speaker 2: don't pull up, don't do I used to set boundaries
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  Speaker 2: and people violate them anyway. So now I just let
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  Speaker 2: people I put on you see me, I put on
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  Speaker 2: the bullshit sash, you know what I'm saying. I put
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  Speaker 2: on the little hat.
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  Speaker 3: But it don't feel.
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  Speaker 1: Good though, to have some like have people in your
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  Speaker 1: life that love you to want to celebrate you and
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  Speaker 1: and like real people like I mean like not just
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  Speaker 1: like people hitting you because they saw you pause. That's
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  Speaker 1: all you post on Instagram about, you know, weren't you
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  Speaker 1: donating something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Every year, So it's funny because every I've been
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  Speaker 2: doing that for the last ten years. I know, like
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: I hit everybody for money and shit like hey, I'm
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: I'm finna go to the skier row or I'm finna
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  Speaker 2: donate to the fires or yep, I went to the Honduras,
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  Speaker 2: the Doctor Saviie Village. We did a retreat. But I
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  Speaker 2: do that every year for my birthday because hey, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want it to be necessarily about me, so and
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  Speaker 2: I know that people want to celebrate me. So I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is my time, this is my chance. I got
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  Speaker 2: let's I got one hundred k thousand followers. If I
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  Speaker 2: get two dollars from out of everybody, I could really
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  Speaker 2: like help somebody. So that was my ideology when I
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: started doing that, and then it evolved into I just
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  Speaker 2: launched my nonprofit.
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  Speaker 1: So congratulations and wait, am I allowed to say congratulations?
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  Speaker 3: Or am I making this about me? Like you let
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  Speaker 3: me know? Yes, congratulations non profit.
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  Speaker 1: So where did you get to with the donations and
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  Speaker 1: everything that you were trying to do?
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  Speaker 2: See? Actually, I can check it right now.
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  Speaker 3: People are still active. People still ask like, what seventy
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  Speaker 3: two hours from your birthday?
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  Speaker 2: Let me see what's the eighteen So it's like nineteen yeah,
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  Speaker 2: four days, no, no, no, the twelve last week.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it was last week, but people are still doing it.
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  Speaker 2: People still donating, and it's like it's one dollar, two dollars,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not even tripping on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm at thirteen hundred love it, thirteen hundred from this
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  Speaker 2: and then I collected another thousand. So was that like
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  Speaker 2: twenty three hundred?
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  Speaker 1: So where the listeners for all the low Riders that's
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  Speaker 1: our podcast community.
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  Speaker 3: Where can they go to.
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  Speaker 1: Donate because they're going to hear this and they're gonna
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that they're only doing what you
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  Speaker 1: want them to do. About your birthday?
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  Speaker 2: Go to put your Foot on the Board dot com.
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  Speaker 2: That's my website.
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  Speaker 3: What is hurt?
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: The video here the explanation of what put your Foot
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: on the Board is because I thought that was a
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: great breakdown too.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you want to explain it? Oh no, you
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: put it put the video in. Okay, Yeah, now, I
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: just that's something that I've been wanting to do for
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: I've been working on this non profit for two years.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Me and my shout out to my cousin Corey, like
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: she's amazing with this stuff. She pretty much helped me
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: set everything up from a to z and it's it's
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: really hard to do something charitable in the United States. Yeah,
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: because because the people violate and stuff.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: They also I think the government to this.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: They want they want to be a part of everything,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: and they make sure Also I learned when I was
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I'm still in the process of trying to figure out
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: nonprofit arn't for Bronco Grande. But when I was first
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: trying to do it, we kept being denied. I think
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: it's like the five.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: O one C five one three ye.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we kept getting denied.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: And then I had a girl reach out to me
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: from the office in Delaware, shout out to Aaron Chambers,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: who was like, Hey, this happens a lot with black
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: like black owned nonprofits, and she created it literally like
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: her job is to make sure that like black non
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: or black owned nonprofits kind of get over that that line,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: that threshold, because she says that it happens all the time.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, with damn, but it's because I think
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: you know the money going.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they know that we're black. Well
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: you should call brown girl.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mine is you can't get around Well no, let
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: me tell you a lot of people.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Don't think brown grog grinding, and I get this pushback
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: all the time. They think that brown gog grinding is
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: for everybody brown, and look, I'm not opposed to everybody
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: brown feeling like it's a movement of theirs. But when
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I created it, it was for black women. The brown
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: was my skin color. It wasn't me being a brown girl,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: it was brown skin. It was very specific because I
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: don't like the whole people of color thing. I feel
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: like our experiences and not that I dislike people anybody else,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: but I'm just being honest about the fact that, like,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you're whatever you are your experiences.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: My experience is way different.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Especially it's a brown skin black girl, way different than
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: anybody else, Like you know what I mean, from hair
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: texture conversations to people everything.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: People got very upset when I said that. I tweeted
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: that and I got dragged. Is that what y'all say drag?
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I got dragged for like for dirty?
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Is that how you said drag for dirty?
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: That's la drag for filthy?
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Fithy, What did you tweet what you tweeted?
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I tweeted, your life is just different when your mama
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: black it is. And I was just like because I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: and your dad black eye witness. No, I'm just I
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: was just literally speaking on the plight of black women
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: specific I mean, I'm a black man, I know what
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: it is. But I was just I remember the looks
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: that my mom used to get from the whites when
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: she would take me place because she couldn't afford child care.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I remember like I could be under her desk playing
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: with my little toy or whatnot. And I remember the
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: way the white lady. I wish I could remember that
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: lady name. She worked at the Bicycle Club casino in
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: off seventeen Freeways.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: It's his birthday, he coming for every white lady that
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: ever been at She worked.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: At the Bicycle Club casino over there off the seventeen Freeway,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and I think it's in bail, in bail, she just
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: looked at my mom with just like discussed just it
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: was just not even discussed. It was worse than that,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: like you're just nothing, like you just your bottom feet
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and broke black bitch.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You know it's crazy for me my mom because my
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: mom is like really light, like skin full of face
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: full of hell yeah, face full of freckles, hair, textures
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: way different than mine. So when my mom used to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: come to like school, like because I used to always
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I've always been like this, so I was always doing
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff. Whenever she would come to stuff,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: people would be like, that's not your mom. Like people said,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: literally say to me, it's not your mom.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Who you're telling.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And then I have, like I have like cousins who
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like you know fully you know, fully black, but like
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: don't have cousins with like longer hair or different hair
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: textures as well too. I remember people being like those
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: not your cousins, and I'm like, what, like why do
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: we think? But it's that that's why for me, it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: not like I think when when you say anything about
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: being like black, like just supporting black, it's like make
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it like you hate everything else. But for me, I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: think now that I can say it where people can
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: hear me, I love being like, yeah, like you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I want all people to have good lives, especially I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: understand if you're not white and your other shit can
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: get tough in your own situations. But like my experience
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: as a black girl, and I mean like a black
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: girl for real, it's a lot different, and they got
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I said that on Brilliant Idiots, and people was pissed
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: off at me, and I'm like, oh, no, y'all don't
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: understand because like you are, if you're lighter skinned, if
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you're and it's no hate. My mom is a very
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lighter skinned woman with freckles, and you know what I mean, Like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's just a different it's just very different.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: So I'm always like, hey, this is how I feel.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Always experiencing. I always tell people I'm not anti anyone,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just pro us.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But in the in the way that the world
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is set up, especially with social media today, the minute
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you say I'm pro us and you specify, we can't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: get nothing specific like black girls, who's you know what
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I mean? Hair curls when we sweat, we can't get
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: nothing specific because then it's like, oh, you hate everybody
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and people feel away.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: But when you know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to yep.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. All right, Well let's get into some things.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: We're going to get on into the Latest. Uh, the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: head is going to be joining us for some of
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the topics today. You ready, Oh, I ain't taking you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: nowhere to mess No.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Remember last I was on the Latest last time, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I forgot what we were talking about. Oh was it
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the loss on me? And about some ship? I don't remember, yo,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: about everything that I'm about to say, and I have
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: said I stand on that ship. How about that? All right?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: We didn't say you didn't you want to hear apologize
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: them before you even started. All right, Gina was supposed
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: to be here, by the way, genaviews, I really want
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: to do a sit down with her so we could
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: talk through career and just how everything like all of
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: our stuff kind of like aligned at the same time
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: and we were like simultaneously like put in an interview together.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: That's how I met her, and then all of a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: sudden our life just start like changing at the same time,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and that's how.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: We like bonded, like going through the changes together.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: But gene Views is if you guys have not seen
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: effective immediately with DJ Head and GENA Views is a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: show based here out of la which is like, you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: pop culture music takes but y'all have taken over. Really yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I think you guys are because a lot of show
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have shows and you know, do
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: content and stuff like that. It reviews and critiques and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: stuff but I think for you guys to be new,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: for people to have just gotten too no Gena throughout
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, you got people place you guy, like
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: they listen and they respect your take. You know, like
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's hard to get respect in a certain genre because
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: everybody's doing so much noise.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I agree, So I think you guys have taken over
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Try to make sure we navigate it properly. I don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: it be some it's it's it's get into resting in
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the group chats.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What has your journey been like?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Because one of the things that I love about you
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: is you support Gena so much, right Like it's like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like people can't play with Gina because the head is coming.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: What is your journey been like? Just kind of it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: almost like breaking an artist a little bit. It is like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: what has your journey been like? Just kind of helping
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: her as she grows in career and like, you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: helping her navigate things.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I so it's a few things that happened. The first
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: thing that happened is I resented the people that came
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: before me, and I resented them because I didn't feel
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: which feelings yes, did your head has feelings?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: That's another thing, y'all. He don't believe in like feelings.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: He feels like they're.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Like, well, not just synthesize them, but so.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: This means crazy. He feels like it's like a pill
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you took on accidents.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: When it came to like I felt the way about
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the people that came before me.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: In Gina's life, No before me, like when I was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: when I was coming up.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And actually, interestingly enough, I don't know if you know
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: who to me bad Luck is. I was gonna have
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: a convert I want on one conversation with one person
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: in particular about how I felt how they handled quote
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: unquote the rock when they had the rock right, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: bad Luck was like, why are you the god? Like
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you don't need to do that anymore, like let it go,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and I let it go. Did never bring it up.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: He's the guy that I was gonna talk to. Still
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: don't know that I was gonna have this uncomfortable conversation
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: with him, almost like a father, like hey, nigga, you
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: fucked up. Yes you know what I'm saying. But anyway,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: after that, I put that aside. Then the second thing
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: that happened was the overwhelming embracement, like embrace that I
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: got from Charlemagne, from Sway and Big Boy and DJ DIDs.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Those are the four people that I mean. Steve Harvey's
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in there too, but I didn't know him. But DJ
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Dinz kind of kicked everything off of me the way
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: he just embraced me day one. He let me shadow
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: him follow He did it for the Clippers now, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: back in the day he ran the radio in LA
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and everything, and it was just like, I want to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: do what you do. And then and then when I
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: got and then Charlemagne randomly Glasses had my big homa.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Ge Malone had told I owe.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Him to sit down to every time I come to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Lam supposed to sit down.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: G told Charlotte I really wanted to get on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: radio when they launched the iHeart station here in LA,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and Charlotte just hit the powers up and was like
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: hired eja and I got hired. And you know, he's.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Always champion for you guys, like effective immediately should be
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: like the radio show in LA.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: And then Sway, sent for a decade, has been telling
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: everybody that I'm the one. I'm the one. And then
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: when I got an iHeart big Boy was like you're
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the guy, and then they just all like embracing. So
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, I remember what that felt like because
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you come up and you're looking up to these people.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And then so I was like damn, and I just
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: couldn't find the right person. I tried a couple of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: times where I was like, I want to do that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: with someone else. Because Charlemagne told me that you're not
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: a legend if your treat don't grow fruit. Yeah, so
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, all right, I want to be a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: fucking legend. But not even it's not self serving. But
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it was more like I remember when people when I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, I'm trying to get your attention, like
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: help me look at me, and then it's this black
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: girl over here and and our homegirl chart hit me
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: in Solace up. One day it was just like, y'all
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: need to go help Gena views from Netflix.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: She is.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: She is Jenkins. We've been friends a year.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Get shout out to her.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: She is when I tell you, she's like I don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: even know, maybe like a whisper, but she has helped
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: me so much on the back end just in what
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That's what we did my circle. People don't know, Like
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: there's rumors about my circle, like I'm in a secret
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: group chat where a black baller. No, huh yeah. But
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: my circle is just really good human beings that want
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to see other people prosper, the good ones, the people
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: that's not doing bullshit, you know, taking advantage. But whatever.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: So when the Gena thing happened and I just hit
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: her up, I didn't mean me and my team, we
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: didn't really know she needed anything. I thought she was
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: just booming.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Even when I met you where she couldn't say it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Even when I met you when you were at that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: place and I came over there just before breakers came.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I was at TMZ and Head came to dom hip Hop,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: so DJ Head was a part of TMZ hip Hop
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and I was working in the newsroom.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And I didn't even know, Like, I didn't know that
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you felt how you felt there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: When would I be able to say.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that I'm saying
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: from my lens because Salas calls it our male privilege.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So once I realized that we have male two things happen.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: One is that is when I realized that, oh, these
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: women don't actually say anything. They don't. You're not going
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to say, hey I need help, or hey I need guidance,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: or hey I need you to mentor me, or hey
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I need you to throw me a bone or hey,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know. But ever since I realized that, I started
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: doing that. So I just called Gina one day. I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: was like, Hey, I don't know what you need help with,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, I'm willing to help you do whatever.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Cause a lot of times it's like number one, you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: just don't know who you can trust, and if you're
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a woman in a certain space, like when I don't
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: because with the time when y'all had started TMC hip hop,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: my mom had just gotten to a point where like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: she wasn't having to be in the hospital all the time.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So I moved it to LA just so I could
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: get back to work because I was told if I
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: didn't come back in the office, I might not have
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a job.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: So I had to move my mom to LA.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: She did not want to be here, but she came
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: because she knew that I needed to go back to work,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Like she understood how important my job was for us,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: so she came. So I was dealing with that at
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: home but I've been on a leave and like you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it was a whole thing of like they had put
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: somebody in my seat. It was whatever, But I knew
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and it's cashe McLay shout out to her. She is,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I believe it's USA today now, and that's my sister.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But I knew though that I had like an absence
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: in the room. So when I came back, I remember
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the first time seeing y'all and we had that meeting
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and everybody was embracing. People didn't think I would come back,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, when you know that you're needed
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like that, it's like you don't have a choice but
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to go back. Because I used to also feel like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: where else I'm a go, Like unless I'm gonna start
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: my own I used to jokingly say, unless I'm gona
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: work at the breakast club or start my own show,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: where am I gonna go? Like what job is gonna
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: let me come and dress like this and talk to talk?
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: How I'll be talking? And I don't want to be
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: miserable somewhere else? In all days weren't bad days I had.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I learned so much from that team too,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And I was from somewhere, I'm loyal. Like to this day,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: there's still things that like you won't get me to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: say or do or talk about when it comes to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: TMZ because at the end of the day, Harvey gave
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: me an opportunity to like really learn how to do
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: so much stuff. But seeing y'all in person pissed me off.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Seeing TMZ hip Hop and person pissed me off because
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I remember when they developed TMZ hip Hop. I literally
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: said to them, I'm sitting here like, I'm producing majority
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of the black stories here, most of your hip hop
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: contexts or me shout out to a Trent as well.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I recently heard that he's no longer at TMZ, but
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you know, Trent was hip Hop DX and then they
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: hired him to write for TMZ hip Hop, write in
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: those stories. And then they started the show with y'all
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, but I'm sitting right here, like why
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: would you start a whole hip hop basically the black
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: side of TMZ And I'm sitting right here and y'all
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: don't want to use me at all. And then when
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: they did come to me to use me, especially for
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the show, right because they were like, we're trying to find.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: They literally called me in the office and was like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: we're trying to find host for this show. And I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was like, so, is this a meeting about me being
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: talent for the show or you want me to help
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you find hosts? And they're like, no, we want you
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: to help us find talent. And I was like, Okay, Well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: first of all, that's a slap in the face because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting right here and I've been promised certain things
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that have never come to fruition. She'll supposed to have
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a show with world Star Hip Hop. We shot a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: whole pilot for it that didn't go anywhere. It was
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: after Q passed away. They were trying to find a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: face a world Star, so they were positioning me to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: be that. That didn't work out because you know, then
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: there was like possibly something at BT, but because of
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the situation that Raquel had done there, which was very
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: successful for her, but I don't know what the working
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: relationship was with Hardve and BT or whatever. That didn't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: work out. Then we had a little podcast going they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: didn't want to pay me for, so I'm like, y'all
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: are tripping. So I'm like, yo, y'all gotta I at
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: leasted to be credited as a casting producer.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: If I'm gonna go fund you, I can find you
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: talent easy, but credit me like that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: They didn't want to do that. They just wanted me
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to give them, who were the best talking heads in
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: black culture go And I was like, what, So I'm
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: coming back into this office and I'm seeing y'all. I'm like, damn,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: so it's you. It's Rodney. Like I'm happy for y'all,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, yo, this is fun, this is crazy.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: That's how goes sometimes and then but to y'all, it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: just I just have to be like, hey, let me
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: know if y'all need anything. Happy to see y'all.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I had any Actually you want me to be,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you some shit you don't know. Rodney
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: was the first person to tell me how dope you were.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I Me and Rodney auditioned together for probably like my
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: first two years before no my first year, right before
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I got on TMZ. We auditioned for so many things together.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: One of the things we thought we were going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: do together because for some reason I would go on auditions,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: he would always end up being the guy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I would always end up being a girl like out
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: of all the talent.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Revolt Diddy had a show that they were bringing and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to like basically be like everybody's been
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: trying to find that new age one on six in Park.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be that, and me and him
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: ended up being the two people that they like picked,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: but then they decided like not to do the show.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So we had work together for some time. So when
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I saw that, I'm like, all right, bet, like, yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he got a job, Like cool, Yeah, no.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I remember that. But my point, My point is I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: just we don't know. Yeah, And so to what you
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: just said, y'all don't say nothing. We can't, right, you
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: don't mean a position to say anything. So I don't know.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: For me, I'm just now I just try to overdo it,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: which which is backfired to me at some time.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: At some point, women every think you doing it just
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: because like you're interested in them or something.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not a ladies man. They don't know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But I mean sometimes I feel like I feel like
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: women our trauma will be like, well, why are you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: trying to help me what you want?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I think that would be the case normally. I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: think that women get that vibe from me.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I've never gotten that vibe from you. But I just
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: know how we can be because we've had to set up.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You gotta be on guard.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we oh my god all the time.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that I give that off. Like
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: after after I'm me and gena length up, I have called,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I'll call call like, I'll DM somebody, say you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: what's yourself on them? But people be looking at me
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: with life. But I don't do it with just women.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I do with artists, men like I remember, oh three
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Greido would be one of them. More like whoever, Like,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I'll just find somebody like a man, I think you're
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: really dope. DM them. I'll say, hey, you know, here's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: my number, text me, and they text me. I'm like, yo,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I don't want nothing from you, but I think you're dope.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I think you're talented. Is there anybody I can introduce
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: you to? Is there any resources I can offer to you? Whatever?
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: People don't be wanting to do that for no reason.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I've never done. I don't. I don't have paperwork with Gina.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I don't have I've never done any paperwork with anybody.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I don't have paperwork my own manager. We've been fifteen
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: years in want a handshake?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: That's crazy, Charlae meane.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Kind of we had a conversation about that too, like
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: just about like a lot of his best relationships have
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: been like genuinely just gonna like all right, let's work together.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Let's just you know what I mean, Like no heavy
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: bread lines or none of that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: There's I don't have one person on paperwork with me.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: How do you protect yourself in a situation like that?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: You just trust that the people are good people to.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Be a good human And I just the way I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: look at it is if you are genuine, then you
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: attract genuine people and even the bad actors. If the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: bad actors exist, then that was a lesson and not
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a loss to me. I know that my lawyers, shit
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: people will be like you got to paperwork, yeah, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: it's like yeah, when I deal with there's certain people,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and when I deal with entities and companies, yeah, it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: paperwork and shit. But when it's just hey, I want
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: to help you, that's not paperwork because help is to me.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Help is one direction. It's not a reciprocal thing. I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: don't look for like, for instance, the people like Glasses
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Glasses and his brother Pool. They fed me every day
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: for years, so I don't have to do is figure
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: out how to eat. I didn't have to figure out,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, how to pay my bills. I didn't have
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to worry about food every day every day. I'm talking
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: about every day for years. They fed me, right, So
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I do that. I would do that now. And the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: interns at the radio station or wherever I have like
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: mentees and stuff, and I do the same thing, like
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I'll just get them food or what gross whatever it is,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: because I remember what it was like and I needed
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that thirty dollars. So they asked me the same thing,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: like why you do this? I said, you want like
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: how much you want me to pay you back? No,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: what I want you to do? Same thing I told Gina.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I said, I need you to find the next Gina
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and whatever you feel like I've done for you, I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: need you to do that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So when you started like taking to Gina more regularly
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and she's like letting you know she needs help. But
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: she was over at no Jumper. What was it that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: she was saying.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: She didn't say she needed help. Gina is not that
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Nigga Jeana's a real West Side nigga. She's not gonna
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: tell you she needs help with nothing, so you kind
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of have to just do shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And then when she left that place, we both I
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: left my place, well, she got she gotta let go,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and I left my place. I left iHeart and we
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: both are unemployed, and I just went with it. I
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: went in a whole year with no job, no inco
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I was just living on my savings and shit. And
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I was just like, We're gonna do something. And our
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: manager was like, no, we need to find somebody to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: team up with. We not building nothing from scratch no more.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And one day me and I had already I never
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: said this publicly, but I had already made peace with
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: what was going to be the reality. I said, well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: look this I told I. Don't even think I ever
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: told Gina this. I told Sallas. I said, well, look
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: this was this is gonna happen. I'm fin around of money, okay,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: So what I'm going to do is so our friend Sparkles,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: she just got a house in the sixties. So I
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: told Sallas, I said, hey, I'm finna sell my house.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it I'm gonna make some because I
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: made a good investment when I bought my house in
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. I'm finna sell my house and me and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: gin are gonna move in with Sparkle and we're gonna
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: turn We're gonna get get a space and turn it
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: into a set and we just gonna start shooting the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: YouTube video right. And he was like, that's a bad
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Like what do you mean, Like we need research? I said,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that's what gonna happen unless you want to get on
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: this train and help us do what we try to do.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a real investment into I mean into yourself.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: But y'all together, like you know what I mean, Like
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: there's a to know that she would even be a
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: person that like would understand you doing that and kind
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of like understanding to the point where like you know
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: something's gonna come out of it, or at least you're
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: betting on You're betting on both of y'all at that point,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: not just yourself.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a big blind.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Well. I think I think that she's the future of
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: what I've been trying to do and or which I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: think she's the future of what we have here. From
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: an LA media perspective. I just want to make sure
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that that continues, because I don't think that we had
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a couple like you know my Debbie Brown yep, but
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: we've never had one that really like was the windy
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of this shit where people respected her and and we've
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: never had a black woman dominate media from an LA perspective.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: So if I, if I have the opportunity to see
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to see that, to fruition or be a part of
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: it in any way, I'm fucking it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy because I literally remember, like not I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: didn't even I didn't know everything Gina was going through either.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I really didn't know her well enough to even know.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I just knew she was working at No Jumper, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: she did an event for me. I have these events
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: which were I want to bring back for the low riders,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: but they're called Bronco grinding meetups, and those meetups and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you basically bring together like anybody that's like popping in
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: their space, but like actually has some substance to share
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and it's you know, people come, they get to hear
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: from them, get to meet them, and it's like very
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: interactive or whatever. But it was me practicing for having
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a talk show and Gina did the very last one
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that I ever did in LA, and we teamed up
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: like BT plus randomly like or BT her randomly wanted
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to team up. We got a whole cast and the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: conversation was just about being a woman in certain spaces.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: And when Gina got on the panel, the way she
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: was referencing her referencing her old job at the time,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: which was no jumper, but she didn't even want us to.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Say the place right. I was like, Oh, she must
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: have really went through some stuff.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And I remember reaching out to her after that event
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and was just like, hey, like I don't know if
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: there's a way I can help you, but like I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: understand what you're going through, and then kind of talking
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to her from there, I'm like, Yo, it's crazy how
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: like you literally can be going through the same thing
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: as somebody and have no idea and the universe just
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like align you'll, because like I randomly just
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: did an interview with her at an event I was
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: booked at n LA, Like that's how I met her.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Didn't like had no idea that like our past would
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like kind of do similar things at the same time,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I've experienced over the last like year,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Genius experienced the same thing. We're just on different coasts
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: of the world, so you know, yeah, but that's that's fire.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you for that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I appreciate being here. You know. My plan right now
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: is to do this for ten years, give her the show,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: and I want to go host like family feud or something.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You're gonna laugh.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: No. I like the way that Steve Harvey looks at
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: people when they say stupid shit.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, he like laughs and all right,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm probably I don't see you, you know, very like
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: jolly all right, I go to.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: If it exists, that's what they're saying.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like, in ten years, I don't
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: know what's seeing it gonna be anymore.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: A lot of them, the people was leaving and starting
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: their own show.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I go do some. I go do some with
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I figured. I mean, I'll
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: go sit with Mimi Brown or something and do something.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Shout out to me Brown TV. That's that's another girl.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: That what.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, we just had a whole day together. She came
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to New York and I was like, oh my god,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like girl, you we're literally like the same we're going.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: We've been through a lot of the same stuff.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Is the ship?
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah yes, wow, okay, well we're gonna get into the latest. Okay.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: So speaking of real black girls, Jill Scott. So, Jill
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Scott was caught out in the street, not in like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: a bad.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Way that I ain't got nothing to do with it, no, no, no,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: no no no.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: You know how people would like do those like on
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: the street interviews like oh what do you do for
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the streets?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Crazy?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe that. Okay, hey, but I did see her
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: on stage with that. You know what I'm saying with
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: what remember that? Remember that? You remember what she did
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: on stage? Tell me no, so look it up?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: All right, back to the respectable things. So yes, so
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: they they ran up on Jill Scott. It was like
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a content creator and they asked different questions about different topics.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And one of the questions that they asked was about music.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: And she says that Chris Brown is the king of pop.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And you know, if people are so divided about Chris Brown.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: So there's been some conversation. Let's take a listen, King
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: of King.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Chris Brown. Interesting, Miss Haldoa.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So she literally says that right, and then she walks
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: off and the clip, of course it picked up when
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: a little viral. But Jill Scott's not one to like.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: If that's how she feels, that's.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: How she feels, she's standing on it one hundred.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: But she did end up going to her Twitter because
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it started a conversation because people were upset that she
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: was in support of Chris Brown. I think any woman,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I don't give you black, white, brown, whatever, uh, anytime
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you speak positively about Chris Brown, because of everything that
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: happened with him and Rihanna, there's a group of people
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: who just don't like it and are never going to
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: go Yeah, never going to So she had to get
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: on Twitter and she said, oh baby, that BS title
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: is a consensus.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I obviously wasn't in the mood.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: If I was asked again when I had n't been
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: up since three am fighting jet lag, I'd say Prince.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: He is everything everything in all caps. Dancer, opulent musician, visionary,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: divine songwriter, showman, keep your war, bigger ones to fight.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So that the so a part of it is the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Chris Brown conversation. The other part of it is King
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: of Pop, like there's so many other people that others
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of like the Chris Brown versus
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson conversation.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Brown, Michael Jackson Usher.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's that whole conversation of like people putting
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: him in front of those people. And I think a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: lot of times when people mention Chris Brown and conversation,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: it's just for like him right now versus who we
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: have out here right now, But people take it in whole.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: So I will say that I don't I can't speak
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: on that because I'm not familiar enough with people's numbers
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm not familiar enough with their like accolades.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: But just don't don't go off numbers of accolades, go
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: off of like influence and impact.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: If then in in order, it would probably be Michael Jackson,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Prince Usher, Chris Brown. At that's my knowledge base. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I like, I like information, And
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: the only reason I say that for my preference will
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: be Chris Brown. That's my preference. See.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing because and when you say that,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: people think that you're saying that he's greater than all
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: of the people.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: You just need to know, I'm just going off what
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I saw with my own eyes. I saw Chris Brown
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: with my own eyes do some ship that I've never
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: seen any other human being do in life. He hit
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the flip, fuck the flip. I saw. I was in Hawaii.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: So here's a fun fact that people don't know when
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: TMZ reported when there's a there's a there's this uh
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: to say you Hawaiian. So we went to Chris. We
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: went to uh Hawaii to do a show with Chris
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Brown me I think glasses. We were like all out
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: there deep, a bunch of l a niggas out there
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: with him. So we went to Hawaii and I remember
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: we went to go link up with Chris. Chris was
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: he was going through some at a time, so he
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: was spray painting. That's how he like calms the comments
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like it's like, you know, stress relief. He likes to
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: do art like he's a he's a dope artist. So
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: he was spray painting the picture. I took a picture
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: of him tagging on the wall where he drew like
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: some the little monsters and the police car and stuff.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I took that picture and it went that was like
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: it went viral before viral was a thing like TMZ
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: posted and shiit like that anyway, the point being when
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: we when we're out there for that show, I saw
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Chris Brown move in choreography without looking at without looking
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: at himself for the dancers, while singing for forty five
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: minutes straight, doing crowd interaction, call and response, and he
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: didn't stop dancing. You know what I'm saying it And
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: it sounded amazing. I don't know. I ain't gonna lie.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I was taking some laundry upstairs in my house and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I was out. I was winded.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Well we I mean, I love you to death, add
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: but I mean we know that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying my respect level for people who I
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of fans in the stands who
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: think that they can be on the court.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Now, Oh my god, yes, so to.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: My I would prefer Chris Brown. But I also saw
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Usher dance on the wall. Put that in. I saw
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: us he was on a wall, dancing on the side
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: of the wall, like with a cable and he was
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: dancing on a wall. It's on. It was on like
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the VMA's or something. I saw the ship and that
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: these things like I went to Usher.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Show, I went to show too.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I went to the the in Vegas, and then I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: went to the actual tour me too.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Vegas was better than the actual tour. Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you saw Usher on the tour,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it was amazing. But y'all have to see him in
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that like Vegas, like it's his show and he has
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a time setting that man don't play.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: So I'm biased. I've never seen Michael Jackson perform. I've
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: never seen him in person. I've never seen Prince perform,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: never seen him in person. It's a recentcy biased, it's
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: a it's a thing. If i'm my preference would be
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Chris Brown because I think that Chris Brown does hell
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: of shit, well not well, hell of shit great. Chris
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Brown can rap, he does art, he can dance like
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: he's a he writes for other people, he can do poetry,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: he can he's a creative director. He does fashion like
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Usher is is one of the ghosts, you know what
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So those two I would look at it
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: in that in that vein, but I don't necessarily know.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think that's either. I have limited
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: knowledge based because at this moment, people could look at
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: somebody like you know Drake as the king of pop
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: or you know what I mean, Like it depends on it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I think it depends on the age. And yeah, I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: think it depends on what you're paying attention to.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But so, okay, So when people have the conversation Usher
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is the new Michael Jackson, don't I I'm sorry, Chris
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Brown is the new.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I don't have an I don't have an argument against that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: What I get how people feel about what Chris Brown
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: because I feel I feel I keep my povs to myself.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: They're not camera, microphone appro radio appropriate. But when you
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: look at what someone has done, and you look at
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: their talent, and you're able to look at it just
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: just with a nuanced perspective. In that way, Chris Brown
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: recently just took himself and put himself in a different
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: class of human beings when when he did Breezy Bowl,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: because that's an elite echelon of individuals doing stadiums. That's
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: not a normal thing for someone to do stadiums, let
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: alone multiple days. I just came back from South Africa.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I was in Johannesburg. There's an aren that mean not
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: a rent. There's a stadium. It's a soccer stadium in Johannesburg.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest. It's the it's I think
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: it's the biggest. The guy told us. The guy told
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: us where. I had a guide out there. The guy
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: told us that it's the biggest stadium in Africa. He
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: sold it out. Chris Brown, No batdolo. You know what
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. He said. People is flying in from Ghana, Egypt,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: people flying in from all over the continent to go
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: see this man. That's not normal, you know what I'm saying.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: So I just want those things to be put in
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: perspective when people start to discount or even like not
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: give people their credit, even if you don't like the
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: things that are their transgressions.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: How do you feel when people put NBA a young
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Boy in the conversation of Michael Jackson impact wise and celebrity.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Wise, impact wise, From an impact perspective, NBA Young Boy,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: It's something like I've never seen in my life. I've
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: never seen somebody go completely against the gray as consistently
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: as he's had as he has. I have played maybe
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: three NBA Young Boy songs on the radio in my
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: entire career, maybe three and those were one offs. It
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't like it was in rotation. It was just like, man,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: we need to play this young boy shit, you know
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like then I have to go get
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: off YouTube, clean it, make a clean version, you know
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, but I'm not going to discount.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not into young Boy. I don't. I'm
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: not into I'm old. I'm monk, like I do. You
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like that that shit all the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: type should give me a headache now, Like so when
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: it comes to those things, I'm not into it. I'm
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: able to look at it and be like that shit's special.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Young boy is definitely special. I wish that he had
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: a different path where he can really maximize and capitalize
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: on his things. Because I remember during COVID I have
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Poe COVID conversations with like people like Roddy like my
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: little homie, Roddy Rich, Roddy Rich.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you say people's names, you'd be like, yeah,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: like my homie, oh oh who Obama?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Like no, just like say the people like all of us.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Don't just be talking to these people.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I understand. So Roddy Rich had a number one record
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: in the country. Here's a diamond record. That's that's kind
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: of unheard of for a new artist in this generation.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Fifty cent did it like all these all these artists
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: did it, but for this generation, he's a diamond record,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: which is kind of heard of. He didn't get to
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: tour at all. Him and the Baby came out during
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: COVID and they were running it up during COVID, so
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: they didn't get the tour at all, like zero. The
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: first time they got to really move around was when
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the festivals came back, and that's when the Baby went
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: on the Rolling Loud Run and Roddy was able to
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: get on these made in American and different.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Festivals taking them off crazy.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: So my point is, I remember having a conversations like
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't get to feel my success young boy. I
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: wish that he got to really maximize and feel his
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: success without the legal troubles. He even be on house
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: arrest he was up in Utah. Like I think if
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: he had a different I think he would be even more.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I think he would be bigger.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: If he got to feel it. Yeah, do you feel
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: like he doesn't appreciate.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: No, I just don't. I think he just I think
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: he's just troubled youth, and I think we just, you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: we got to figure out a way to help the youth.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: That's why I fuck with the Boys and Girls Club.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I just I believe in them. I believe in the youth.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in adults anymore.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I saw be Dot Brian beat at Bill Miller, formerly
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: of Radar, but I saw him tweet because the RIAA
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: had tweeted about They tweeted the congratulations to and Be
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Young Boyd.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: They congratulated him for being the.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Most certified rapper of all time with one hundred and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: twenty six are IAA certified titles.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Alongside the release of his new albums Slime Cry today
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and I want to just put it in perspective. So
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: according to Rolling Stone, with this uh you know, new
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: certification or position positioning, according to RIAA, that means he's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: made more gold and platinum songs and albums than Kanye West,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Drake jay Z, and anyone else in the drama in
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the genre. Slime Cry, which is the project he just released,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: is his eighth studio album and a lot of I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: feel like his last he had a mixtape that he
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: dropped prior to this one, and then now we have
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Slime Cry. A lot of that time, like you mentioned,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: he spent fighting legal like he couldn't even really you
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, move around, and he comes out
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: on the massive tour, that tour goes crazy.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: He almost was like like, d I think what was it?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: He was almost like.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: The biggest grossing tour in the genre, but now he's
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: just one of but seventy million dollars that tour made,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: selling more than five hundred thousand dollars tickets.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Across forty two shows.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Crazy, it's like, and people was making jokes about them
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: videos from the NBA Young Boy Tour and like you know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: could you see all the poshesty masted masses and you
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's a little crazy, but
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: like just impact. Like a lot of artists today are here,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you know, their music, they might get spends on the radio,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you might dance, sit them on TikTok, but to have
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: people come out like that. I also so he got
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that production deal where he's going to be like we're
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: about to get like some documentary style footage of the tour,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: talking about his influence and stuff, because I think a
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people are trying to understand it.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, yeahah, you better pay attention.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: But be that tweeted and he asked. I thought it
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: was a valid question.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: He did get some pushback because they try to, like,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you know, put him in like the oh you're just old,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: you don't get it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Be that tweeted. Interesting.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: With this many certifications, why isn't his catalog recognizable outside.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Of his fan base? It's a serious question. I think
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: it's a valid question because, like, I can't name off
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: the top the NBA on Boys song some of them
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: if you put them on, I know the song, but
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know the name of it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, I have a counter to that though, I
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: think that his fan base just consumes his shit. Yeah,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: so else shares a fan base. I think Young Boy
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: shares a fan base with very few people.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: That's a valid team.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: So if me and you are pescatarian, we only eat fish,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: everybody else is eating burgers, we technically have more food,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: whereas their volume is going to look like it's exponentially more.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think that when NBA Young Boy is doing
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: First of all, do you think that it's achievable by
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: another artist again after him, because people didn't think that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: People always say to me, how there's no real celebrities
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: today and no real stars, but like he's a super
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: like he's there.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Nah, he is. I just I don't think that he
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: makes himself its great. I was just talking to this
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: woman about this. She told me, I need to make
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: myself more appetizing as a companion. And I think that Listen, listen,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I think that young boy doesn't care to make himself
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: appetizing looking for either.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: What is happening?
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Wait?
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Can we wait? You can't just stop?
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: She start. I need to make myself basically, I need
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: to make myself palatable to a companion, like appetite, Like
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I need to make myself. I have hard stances. I'm
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: not complimentary like.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: You know, also learning how to be a partner, she.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Said, Just make myself more desirable to be a companion.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is the comparison is I think young
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: boy literally is like me when it comes to that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think he give a fuck. No, he don't,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't think he give a
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: fuck about making himself marketable for brand deals. I don't
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: think he cares about what we think. I don't think
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't think he cares
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: about going to the breakfast club. No, that's my point.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: He especially not after him and Charlotte had their a
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: little back and forth.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: So my point is I don't think that he actually
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: cares to make himself desirable for beat Out's point, you
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But even if he doesn't care, I think for me,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: when I saw Beatot's question, it made me think about, like, Okay,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: if you're trying to duplicate what he has do done,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: what's the strategy?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Then I don't think there is one.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Yeah, Because it's like he
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: leans into that bass and he doesn't care. But like,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: not everybody who leans into that bass and doesn't care
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: gets to where he is at all. There's a lot
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of people have like Nietzche. I would say, like Jid
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: is it Jed or j I d Well his friends
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: call him j Okay. Well, I would say, like Jed
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: has that, like he leans into his base heavily. Like
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of artists that I can think of
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: right now who have that. But like they're not. The
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: numbers aren't like.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: An NBA Young Boy, correct. I think it's an anomaly.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: It's just like it's just like the gn X tour, Like,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: how do you recreate that? I don't think you can.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: How do you recreate a battle and then and then
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and then a platinum a Grammy Award winning single and
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: then an album? And that's some things you just can't
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: plan those things. And that's that's that's the magic of
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the music.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of as we transition, because I feel like
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of like what is who? Who is
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the artist that I would think of that has done that,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: like really leaned into their niche, audience space and corner.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Tyler Tyler the creator. Okay, yes, Tyler to creator one
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: hundred percent and he's like superstar. But also I feel
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: like Jake Cole is like that too, Yes and no.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I think Tyler has I think Tyler is the So
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: if there's a spectrum, I think you got a young
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: boy and this side, Tyler on this side. You see that. Yeah,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I think Jake Cole is not on that spectrum. Jake Cole,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: He's not where they are.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of people in the who care
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: about one of the two A Tyler to creator a
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: An NBA Young Boy, or both of them.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: That wouldn't be checking for J.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Cole. Know what I'm saying is I think Cole wanted
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: to be in Cole. You gotta think Cole did the
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: same thing that Ya did and the same thing that
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Big Sean did. They went somewhere and rapped for their
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: favorite rapper. They wanted in on the ship and at
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: some point H Cole wanted he wanted the he wanted
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the rock deal. You get what I'm saying. He wanted
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: he wanted the to work with these producers. He wanted
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: in on them, on the business, on them, on the
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: he got the endorsement deals. He wanted the hoop he
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: he he participates.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Works the stuff, the commercial stuff.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: He wanted it. I don't think if we ever gave
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Tyler any of those things, Tyler would still be Tyler.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Same for young Boy. They don't give a fuck. They're
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna do them. And if people come to
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the party, they come to the part. If they don't,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: they don't give a fuck.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like though, because a lot of people
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: we were having this conversation with Marco Plus when he
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: came to the Breakfast club about Jake Cole, just you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: him leaning into his own, his own audience. What Marco
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Plus called Jake Cole the King of the South, that
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: was a whole That was a crazy conversation.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But but he's young.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Though he's young, he's no, I'm not discounting Cole. I'm
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: saying that's crazy, just because by the end of.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: The conversation he didn't think that anymore. Because they you know,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: sitting next to a t I fan like a Charlemagne
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and a.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very It was a very argument.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Some of the homies from from from Georgia. They would say,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Gucci is they can't get the South.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it depends on who you talk to.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Can't get the South and who created trap music is
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: a very It depends on who you're talking to, how
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: old they are, what they digest conversation, you know what
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I mean. But he when I was watching him talk
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: about j Cole, it just and the reason why I
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: compared him, I brought him into the conversation and be
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: a young boy, because I feel like the people that
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: stay in him stay in him like they you can't
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: tell them nothing about J Cole, right, and back to
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out that strategy with you know J
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Cole drops you know this to track to fall off
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: is suposed to becoming It's supposed to be like the
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: last of the last. Right when a person like a J.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Cole decides to walk away, and walking away if he
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: actually does it, because all represent they retire or whatever
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: when they walk away. A lot of the conversation I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: feel like he's already starting to have is about just
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: all the things that like didn't go the way.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: He wanted them to. What does that do for the
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: youth culture who are looking at a J.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Cole and are like, like, so we're about to have
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: a bunch of like people who just want nothing to
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: do with their commercialized success.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: That was my That's my point, Like I have a
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: very and I don't like to come I don't like
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: to talk about cold a lot because it comes off
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: like I'm bashing him or like I'm belittling him, and
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I'm actually a J Cole, Like I'm a.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: J Cole god even after he dropped out of the battle, Yes, okay,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: because people want him about that now too, Like they
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear the fall off because he didn't
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: entertain I'm not a blood sport guy.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I don't like. I'm not I don't even like boxing
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: like that because I don't like I don't like people
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: getting hurt. I just don't like. I don't like mma.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of it. I don't You're not
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: gonna see me covering a lot of that. I don't
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: fuck with it because I don't like people getting hurt
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: in general. Right, So when it came to the battle,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the sportsman in me, the competitor in me, wanted him
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: to do what he was doing. And then when he
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: dropped out, I'm like, Okay, I respect it because I'm
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: at a point in my life where I was I
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: will fight for my serenity, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: My piece and everything means everything to me, which way
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I want to be in my room, in my draws,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: not being boiled for my purpose. So but when I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: talk about Cole, I definitely and I would love to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: have a conversation with him. They don't have to be
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: on a camera or nothing. But when I look at
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Cole and what he's his contributions and how he's a
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: pri he's navigated his career. I don't think that Cole.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I don't look at Cole as a fulfilled individual. I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: look at Cole as he's he's he was let down by.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: The music business.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: He was he was disappointed and he and I said
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: me and Gene was just talking about this on our show,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: like in his mind, And this is what I believe
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of artists go through in their mind. I'm dope.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: These people who I look at are that are also dope,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: recognize my dopeness. They signed me because I'm dope. The
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: people that they pitched me to love me because I'm dope.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: The public embraces me because I'm dope, and then I
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: get the go be dope around the world and make
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and make a living and get rich or be successful
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: being dope. And that's not how this shit works. A
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: lot of times sometimes it goes that way, but a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: lot of times it doesn't go that way. And I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: think that a lot of artists have this in their brain.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: And I got killed online because when we did the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: we did the Revolt year end wrap up show shot
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: at Elsie, and when we did that, she posted this
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: clip of me talking about how I would like Cole
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: and Drake and even my homie like Kendred. Everybody to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: talk and talk about the collaborative effort that.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: It takes to it together at one time.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: No, I want them to talk in general about how
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: what it takes to win. Because the youth a lot
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: of people coming up. They listen to the Russlers of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: the world. Russell, say Russell, get on his TikTok or
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: his Instagram and say yes, the rat White Rapper rops
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Russell get on his Instagram and say yeah. I went
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: on Splice and I downloaded this sample. Then I went
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: in my laptop and I chopped it up. Then I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: plugged my mic in and I hummed some melodies, and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: then I uploaded it to tune Core independently, and then
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I made a million dollars and sold out the Madison
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Square Guard. That's not reality, not for everybody exactly. And
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I think the oversimplification of where things are is the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: reason why people have these falsehoods and this dogma that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: they believed in. And that's why I think happened to Cold.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I think Cole will leave to say like, same thing
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: with ya. I think Yay has a bitterness or jaded
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: towards Jay. I think Cole has a certain jaded or
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: bitterness towards the industry.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I think towards jay Z too, And talking about this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: before we started, I'm like, yo, what like what's the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: let's get to like breaking down of like what is
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the upset and the anger?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: And it's not like it's the hurt.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: You know what it is because you're a woman and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: you've experienced the same things, whereas you might oh man
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I got this job, or oh man, I got this opportunity,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: or man I might have this thing or this contact.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I got this contact me and you have had a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: conversation and I got this You was like, I got
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: this contact and then either the person is ghost you
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: or they shit on you. Genus had the same thing
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: where she's looking up to this black woman in this
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: big ass off corner office, in this at this network
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: and then she shits on her. That's devastating to someone
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: if you're looking up to the situations that they're in,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: the rooms that they're in, the opportunities that they have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: the access. I think that's what happened. Same thing we
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: just we saw. Everybody saw what played out between Yea
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: and Big Sean Big Sean rapped for Kanye, Kanye signed him.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's the same
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: thing that would happen, kind of similar with Ja Cole,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: like oh shit, he's dope, like fuck with us. And
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: then so I think that a lot of times, at
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: least in our generation, in probably one generation below, what
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: happened is they have these dreams of being of that's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: how it goes, and it don't go that way. Yeah,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: And I just I wish that more people would talk
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: about it so that way the expectation is not that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: for the common.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Way I want to read when so when he dropped
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: the dis two track two song in the beginning of
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: the video, there's like a letter from him before it starts.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: It says, for the past ten years, this album has
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: been handcrafted with one intention and personal challenge to myself
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: to create my best work, to do on my last
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: what I was unable to do with my first. I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: had no way of knowing how much time, focus and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: energy it would eventually take to achieve this. But despite
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the countless challenges along the way, I knew in my
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: heart I would one day get to the finish line.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I owed it first and foremost to myself, and secondly,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I owed it to hip hop the fall off J Cole?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Now do you okay?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: So I read that because you're talking about you know,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you want them to talk right, and hopefully when we
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: get the fall off, J Cole will have some conversations,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: especially if he is going to do what he's alluding to,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: like this being his last right. I think that, you know,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: the fans want to hear and I think we deserve
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: to kind of like get the there's a lot that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: we need to hear from.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like we need to hear from him. I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: think he owes it to us.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: People will probably argue different, but do you think Jay
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Cole ever gets to a place where like I've reckoned
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: all of my you know what I mean, Like I've
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: gotten to the place where I'm I'm in an okay place.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Because he decided not to entertain the Kendrick Lamar in
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the drig situation because he said, you know, just mentally
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: where he's at right now, that's just not good for
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: his spirit. So he's had to have been doing a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: lot of like self like reckoning and conversations or whatever.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: But then you hear this two track to where he
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: calls he like slights jay Z right. So it's like
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the hell conversation that's happening in one place, but at
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the same time, I'm still hearing you come from a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: place of hurt.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's just disappointment. I don't necessarily I won't
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: say it's hurt because I don't know him and I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: have never had that conversation with him. I would I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: can say I can tell that Jay Cole is disappointed
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: by something within the confines of the industry. And I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: don't know what that is specifically, but based on my
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: based on my own personal experiences, I know what that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: looked like, I know what that feel like. That's what
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: that's my thought. That's my hypothesis.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: What do you think, like him walking away from like music,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: does that mean anything to you? Like if this is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: really his last.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Like we ever, I just hope it's amazing. If it's not,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a disappointment, like it's gonna suck if
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: it's not. But I really really hope that this is
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: like the Forest Hills Drive that everybody wants to do
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: that I would like it to be. If it's not,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's it's his art. I'm gonna critique it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have my thoughts. But that's what he wanted
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: What did you think of this this two track too?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I thought it was dope. I got killed on line
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: because we were giving all these theories about it. He
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: is he getting a divorce? It was like, y'all stupid.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I thought that too, because but then, I mean,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I know he's talking in reverse, but the way he
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: talked about the wedding ring coming off and stuff like that,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, because sometimes your past can be like can
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: be very like you're you're making the same mistakes, so
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: you're thinking back to what you did then. Like I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I thought that too.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: When he talk, I don't listen. I don't I have
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: my own opinions, but I don't get I don't. Actually,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not invested like that. So if you told me today, hey,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I heard that Martians are landing tomorrow, I would entertain
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: the conversation.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: But you you don't feel like you are a little
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: bit invested because you have to.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you get online and you talk about it,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: and you talk about it from a place of like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: not just being like a brainless Like, what.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is that's not what I'm saying. What I'm
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: saying is I'm going to I'm gonna entertain the conversation
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: of whatever it is. Like if I'm looking at lyrics,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to read into the lyrics and I'm going
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: to try to figure out because they don't talk anymore,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's left up to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: your interpretation. So if my interpretation is Lauren is crashing out,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: that's my interpretation. If Lauren never said anything, and that's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: something I actually told, I actually told that too. I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: told her to a couple of artis. I told that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: to the homies, and I was like, if you when
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you don't talk, you allow the internet to control your narrative, right,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: And as long as you're okay with that, then it
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: didn't find.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: What did you think the part where he's sitting down
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: at the desk and he's talking about that hunger and
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: want to be great in the inspiration because so many
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: people right now are having a conversation even with this,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: and even when him saying, I'm choosing my piece about
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: you can't say that you're one of the greatest or
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: you can't leave this feel like you're one of the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: greatest because he didn't entertain that battle. What do you
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: think that j Cole was talking was saying about that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: battle moment by going back into the time where he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I'm the greatest and I can't
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: be touched.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I still think what I said. I think that a lot.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I think Cole has it in his mind that because
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: he's dope, he can still be like, you can still
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: occupy that space. I don't necessarily believe.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: That that he's still one of the greatest, regardless.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: He is one of the dopest. He's I mean, you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: can't take that away from from him, but he's not
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: the guy.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: But if he had entered into this battle and lost,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: how would that have fared for him? At this point
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: where he's dropping this two track too, could he still
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: say that he believes he's one of the greed I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: I think when you I'm a wrestling fan Rick Flair,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: he says, to beat the man, you gotta beat the man.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: That's just that's I didn't make the rules that was
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: here before.
• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: spirited conversation.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Very spirited.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very spirited conversation. Happy birthday, having k free. He's like,
• 1:09:41
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• 1:09:46
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