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CTK-42: NRL Scrums, Bok Depth and Pure Nonsense · Cut The Kak

• Byron: Welcome back to another episode of Cut the Cuck, the show where we talk about the sport we love but know absolutely nothing about. I'm Byron, that fool over there is Chad. Take us away. Chad: Byron, we have been deprived. I feel like I'm one of those been on like you know those images you see from California where the Oaks are doing the fentanyl fit the fent fold. I feel like that. I've got withdrawals, the rugby championship and the rugby the what's it called the Nations Cup and it's ruined rugby. It was it was too good. It was too good for us, it was too much rugby now Byron: Chad? The nations championship, the nations cup. Chad: I've had a week of nothing and grumpy. Yeah. It's no good. Byron: Feels empty. Yeah. But we still have the curry cup. I've been impressed with the curry cup so far. ⁓ hmm. Of course it's not the same. It it's international has a different type of tenacity, a different type of aggression, different type of class. ⁓ Chad: It's not the same. Not the same. I don't know, I just think if they're gonna do it then you do it eleven months of the year. Non stop. ⁓ Byron: Just nonstop rugby for eighteen hours every Saturday. Chad: I'm not asking too much here. Byron: you know. Just their their careers and their lives and their bodies and Chad: ⁓ and your camera's also very skew. Why is your camera so skew? Byron: Didn't even have to didn't help? Chad: Looks better, I think. I don't know. Maybe I'm just I'm just I'm still I'm just still grumpy. Every everything's pissing me off. Byron: There you go. So grumpy. ⁓ And nothing is as good as it should be. do you wanna talk about an assignment we had to do over the last weekend regarding a particular a particular sport code? Chad: No The NRL. Byron: Wanna talk about the NRL? Chad: Let's do it. Let me just also put my heater on 'cause it's ⁓ a little bit cold here on this Where am I? Wed Tuesday night? Byron: The chili. Chad: What did you think about it? Byron: So it's it's it's it's a bit of a strange one. I've got Chad: First of all, hang on, let's talk. What what games did do you watch? Byron: I watched Rabbit O's versus South Sydney Storm. Chad: The Melbourne storm. Byron: read South Sydney subway. South rabbiters, Melbourne Storm. There we go. Same, same, but different. Chad: Yeah. Just a couple thousand kilometers away. Byron: just the Rabittohs has an incredible name. Actually, I went to go look up the the origin behind the name. Now even after I read it, I wasn't sure it was true, but we'll go with it. It says the South Sydney Rabittohs got their name from early 20th century street vendors who sold rabbit meat and pelts in working class Sydney, shouting rabbido to attract buyers. Some club players worked as Rabbitohs on Saturdays and played matches in jerseys stained with fur and blood. Chad: I no idea, but now to make so I've I've I've been a s I like that team. So the whole thing about the Rabbidos is there's always a sound a random South Rabbidos guy in at any given for any random game, there'll always be one oak wearing his Rabbidos jersey in the stadium. That sold me. I was like, Yep, that's my team. Byron: Ha ha ha. I they're not having the great both it's from from from what I understood, both teams if either one of them lost this game, basically their season was over. Chad: Yep. Pretty much. Byron: And to the commentators, also one of the best games of the season. Chad: It was pretty fun. It was a good one to watch. Byron: so if you're trying to win someone over, it's not a bad first game to watch from start to finish. I did watch some of the state of origin though, so it's technically not my first league game. ⁓ but it's my first full NRL game. Chad: Yeah. I think it's different though. Yeah. Byron: Where did you ask? What are my thoughts? Chad: Mm. Byron: Well, the first thing is the scrum. I know we spoke about it. No, no, no, no, look, no, I thought about it. I'm trying I was I was trying to be as kind and as understanding as possible with the scrum. And all it really is, a to give the attacking team a slight attacking advantage because there's less defenders for one phase. Chad: Don't don't worry about the scrum. The scrums Yeah, but I cannot believe you're dis you're defending what it is. Byron: I'm not defending it. I'm telling you what I think is the reason they do it. I just wish they would call it something else. because it a scrum ⁓ is disrespectful. ⁓ They call it almost anything else than a scrum. Chad: Yeah. It's ⁓ Gathering. Byron: A gathering of people that don't want to defend one on one. ⁓ no, but look, it was a it was a great game to watch. I do think that it has the same to at least, again this will make league fans upset. I think it's got the same sort of entertainment value and draw that the NFL has. And what I mean by that is ⁓ Chad: I like it. Yeah. Byron: A lot of the phases, or what do they call them? They get the six tackles before the ball turns over. It reminds me a lot of the type of flow that you get in the NFL in the US, where you know, you kind of go through the motions for the first few phases, and every now and then there's something exciting that happens that you get to watch. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: But you know for the most part that like phase one, two and three, sometimes four in league is kind of just ⁓ off pass run in, one off pass run in. Every and then there'll be an offload if there aren't three guys tackling him. But for the most part, and then it it you have one or two phases where they're passing the ball out wide and you hope something happens. If not, they kick a a big up and under get the ball and everyone tries again. Chad: And I hope to get the ball back. Byron: I think what Union has that is f for me a bigger draw that every phase, ⁓ every phase, there's something to look out for in terms of competition for the ball. Chad: Yeah. think sorry to cut you off there. On that, the reason why I've kind of been getting into it is because I haven't been looking at it the same way. I've I've given up looking at the same way 'cause all it does is piss me off for one. And when you don't watch it and think this is a this is shit, this rugby's better, and just watch it as ⁓ it it gets exciting to watch. Byron: So there's different ⁓ no, yeah, no, go ahead. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. No, I'm I'm I'm a I one hundred percent agree with you. One hundred percent agree with you. I think watching it as its own sport. I don't think I'm gonna become a diehard fan and watch every game because I just think it's again, it doesn't have the constant battle that's going on in all the little things. maybe it is. Maybe if I if I watch it for another eighteen years, I'll figure out all the little nuances. ⁓ Chad: And then you'll make eighteen years of watching League. Byron: Hundred percent not. Chad: Imagine eight imagine eighteen years of watching those scrums. Byron: gotta give the scums a break, Chad. Chad: It's they no. Byron: Also, not having a line out breaks my heart. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Kinda like watching the ⁓ L R. Chad: Yeah, I would rather watch Link. Byron: least there's this look some of those ⁓ of those players are incredible runners. the number one for Melbourne Storm, their fullback, ⁓ Sua Sua Fahaluhu. Chad: Yeah. And how hard they get. Yeah, out of another place. Byron: number one for the Melbourne Storm. Insane runner. Insane runner. but the other thing that I thought was crazy is and the commentators did point out that this is not common, but there were only four out of twelve successful kicks. Chad: How many? Byron: four from twelve. Chad: Jesus. Byron: Yes, I thought the same thing. Chad: I didn't realise that. Byron: from twelve. I was like i ⁓ score lines would have been completely different if Oaks just knew how to slot their kicks. ⁓ but it was ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Bro, that's clip us into of compensate. ⁓ Byron: Yeah. You know you know what's funny? There do you remember Lions Flyhoff? What was his name? Andre was it Andre Pretorius? Chad: I don't remember. Byron: I'm almost certain that was his name. he was a Springbrook flauff and he played for the Lions as well. But he would kick with sand. Chad: Yeah. what are you talking about? Yes. Byron: So was it was it happened more than once, but there was at least one very clear moment. I remember I was at the rugby with my brother, and we were sitting behind the poles, and Andre was setting up his sand, and you know he puts that little line in front of where he Yeah. And he had it to the right of the post. And I said, No, to the left. Chad: The long line. Ha ha. Byron: And he kicks and he kicked it exactly where he had the the the the the line from the sand and it went to the right. And I was like, I should have just been a little louder, the same as the compensate guy. Chad: Yeah, compensate, dude. That was I was giggling like a little girl for w way too long. Shout out Big Red Rob for sending me that clip. Jesus. Byron: the other thing I wanted to say as well about the the league game ⁓ is think as well if you ⁓ are okay, this really happen anymore, but you're like looking for a sport to watch and you come across union and you watch for five minutes, most of the aren't gonna make sense to you, I think. Chad: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Byron: If you going through the channels and you land up on a league game and you watch for five minutes, you can almost figure out what's going on and when someone's doing well and when someone's not doing well. I think yeah, I think it it's a lot easier to follow than union. I think that is also another big draw. Like that that's the big draw about football. ⁓ yeah, with soccer, it's so simple. Chad: Yeah, run forward, pass backwards. Fuck up. Byron: I mean obviously at the highest level it's complicated, but put a ball on the ground, I kick the ball into that goal. That's it. That's that's that's as easy as it gets. And don't don't kick the other oak to get the ball. ⁓ So I think that's another big draw for league, is it's just it's easy to watch. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's far from the truth. Byron: I think I can commit to watching one game a week to talk about it during the season. Yeah. Chad: Of League? Yeah, well we have to because we're gonna have to watch the World Cup. When it comes we we commit to that. So have to cover some of that. Byron: But I mean, looking at that, it's really just Australia versus anyone else for Chad: Trail in New Zealand, yeah. Byron: League, so basically Australia will play New Zealand in the final. Chad: Think so. I don't actually know. Byron: At least that's what it looks like when we first looked at it. But we'll see. did you watch any other rugby? Chad: I watched the highlights of the Cheaters game with Puff Clack. I watched Byron: How good was that intercept trial? Chad: Right. It was like he it he made it look too easy. He he saw that happening from three f plays ago. Yeah. Byron: What did three phases ago? The the Cheaters made the Sharks look like it was a URC team versus a curry cup team. Chad: I mean to be fair, it is their full strength sahad. Byron: Okay. And this is Sharks fifteen, not Shark Sharks. I get it. I get it. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Also I have to defend my team. Byron: if you look at the I won't we won't even talk about that game yet, but the Lions last week against the Cheaters, a much closer game, and their performance. And then you look at Sharks played the Pumas and only won by two points in the first week of the current cup. Then you fast forward to this week, Cheaters you can say destroyed the Sharks, but the Lions absolutely beat the shit out of the Pumas. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. You're bringing your rug you r really bad. You're bringing your rugby math back into this. Byron: If I'm bringing my rugby math back into this, it's still gonna be a while so things might change, but when the Lions play the sharks, they should absolutely wreck them. Chad: Mm-hmm. I think that's is that next week? No, no, we play Storm is next week. Byron: No, ⁓ we play you guys on the week six it says. Chad: yeah. I watch the game, it's at five fifteen. Byron: But There you go. I do love though is though is, you know, technically the the same, this is the ADT security lions. ⁓ It's got 17 before the name comes out. I still think that they play the same brand of rugby, regardless. Yeah. It's so exciting to watch. Like Chad: Yeah. The lions? It is cool. Byron: It it doesn't have as much flair as like when you have like Q on Horn, for example. ⁓ well of course he's he's special. But it's the same brand of rugby. In your twenty two, it doesn't matter we're running. Handoffs, I mean offloads, everything. It's it's exciting rugby that the Lions play. Chad: Yeah, but obviously. Yeah. Byron: And then the only other comment I had is who looked at the Kriqua's blue bulls kit and said, Allah, let's go ahead, this is perfect, no worries, Oaks, we can tell the difference. Chad: Yeah. I said the same thing. Yeah. It was bad. I even messaged them and I was like, the kit man needs to be fired. Byron: Like Proper. Because it was a Krickwas home game and the Blue Bulls have a very nice white away jersey with the the the blue trim. Actually a really nice jersey, probably better than their home kit. And no one decided to pack that one. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. No. Maybe it's forgotten. Byron: Yeah, that that and then the shorts were also just a few shades off of the same color. So it wasn't like one was wearing white shorts and the other one it was almost the same. It was it was horrible. and then the storm is losing to Burland, I thought was crazy. Chad: ⁓ I think that they wore the same shorts. I think Yeah. Byron: Forty one three. It was on Sunday, which was nice. Yeah. ⁓ Chad: I didn't I didn't watch that game. I should actually go watch him. Yeah. That sus. They didn't lose and they got beaten. Forty one three. Byron: Yeah, no, they got they got beats beats. Chad: Yeah, yeah. Byron: I think Burland are the only Berland and Cheetahs are the only undefeated sides left. So you wanna do predictions for next week? Chad: Okay, Cup, chop. Byron: Ooh, crick was cheaters. Chad: Who's doing him, you or me? ⁓ cheaters, obviously. Byron: At this point I agree with you. Stormers play sharks. Chad: Yeah. how have the stormers done? Is it one one? They're the same. I'm gonna go I'm going sharks. ⁓ Byron: Stormers beat Frequence twenty five nineteen and they lost to Borland forty one three. Chad: And have shocks. Byron: Yeah, I feel like that one's kind of fifty fifty. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Lions blue bulls? Chad: ⁓ I'm gonna go Lions. Byron: I'm I'm of course agreeing. Chad: At home in front of all six fans, they're winning. Byron: Like shouldn't the curriculum be the place where you test a different stadium? Chad: Hundred percent. Go play it at fucking Albert and Rugby Club. else. Byron: You'll have you you know what? Do you know how many have ten times the crowd? Chad: Hundred percent. Well, ten times six is not much, but yeah. Yeah. Byron: Exactly. It's stom it's still ten times. Excluding ground staff. Chad: Yeah, you wouldn't have to have as many grand stuff either. Byron: Yeah. then the final game of the weekend, Borland versus Pumas. Chad: Well, you have to go with the form and go boiland. Byron: Yeah, I agree with you. So we got cheetahs, sharks, lions, burland. Nice. Uncle Chad, you wanted to talk about the Springbok squad. Chad: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, Springbok Squad that was announced for the and Springbok tests. Which is cool. There's some people that were left out. Who was the that were left out? Had it written ⁓ Byron: Do you wanna go who was in first or out first? Chad: can you read who's in? I will find out who's out. Byron: Yes. Alright, so we start off with the Khrotmana. The props start off with Thomas DeToy, Wilco Lowe, Ntukum Chunu, Ox and Chair, yes, Zachary Porthan, Carlos Saadi, Gerard Stienkamp, and Bowen Fenter. Chad: Yes. Byron: Such big boys. Chad: Yeah, that's I'm actually gonna check something off this. Yeah. Byron: It's just pure what do you want to calculate which planes can handle that kind of cargo? Because they're gonna need a fly in two planes, half the props in the first and half the props in the second. ⁓ then hookers, it's Johan Krubler and Malcolm Marks. But if I'm not mistaken, Gerard Stierenkamp and Chad: Yeah. How how many how many shifts they've got to make? Yeah. Byron: Jan Hendrik Vessels. there wasn't ⁓ Paul DeVilius can all play Hooker. Yeah. Alright, then Locks, Lord De Yacha, Ebon Etsabeth, Rua Nokia. Very exciting to have Nokia back. loose forwards. Chad: Peter Step the Toy wasn't in Byron: He is. Yeah, hold on, I haven't got there yet. Loose forwards, Paul DeVilius, Ben Jason Dixon, Cameron Hanekom, Sia Khaleesi, Alrich Lowe, Jasper Visa. And then it says utility forwards, so Chad: Is he? ⁓ okay. Byron: We got Peter Stef Tatoy, Franco Mastert, Vincent Tsuka, Michael Van Starden, ⁓ Jan Hendrik Vessels. ⁓ Mark van Starden's the other guy who can play hooker. and Corbis Visa. Brother, Querbus Visa is a terrifying human being and it only makes sense because Jasper is his older brother. Chad: I mean, completely checks out. It makes sense. Byron: E that with those two ⁓ absolute running around causing cuck. Chad: Yeah, how much butervos do you think gets was consumed as teenagers? Byron: Ha ha. that's that's ⁓ that's crazy. The only thing that I can see that would be crazier than that is the wow, the Barrett family. Chad: Yeah, well that's there's what five of them. Byron: Seven hundred Barrett and they all play professional routine. Chad: So can you imagine how many weekends as like a as a parent you've had to go and spend at your local club and watch? Byron: It's not just the weekends, it's the number of hours because from a certain age you had every single one of them in a different age group. So you had like a you had a nine o'clock kickoff, a ten o'clock kickoff, an eleven o'clock kickoff, a three o'clock kickoff. Chad: Practices. Yeah, you just balked up in the back of your bucky and just like you're right. ⁓ Byron: You're so you're so used to it. You get there, the tent pops up automatically, it's it's all smooth running. Even away games, no problem. You know what to do. all right, then scrummies, Herschel Yankees, which is good to see back. ⁓ Corbus Reinach, Mornay Von der Berg, and Grant Williams. And I would say the big ⁓ one there is ⁓ Papir. Chad: Yeah. is the other one. Yep. A guy and gets gets misses out, but Byron: And he and he did everything right when he played. Chad: Yep. Byron: There's there has to I don't know what it is because on the field he performs. So there has to be another reason that has planned something and it's Chad: Yeah. Was Williams in it? ⁓ Grant Williams I think of Yaku Williams. Sorry. Byron: Yeah, Grant Williams. ⁓ then fly half, there's Mani, LeBoc, Sasha Feinbergen, Gomezulu, Vusi Moyo, and Andre Pollard. Brother. What thought was Chad: And pussy more pussy more you could almost play at too. Byron: Well, when Pollard was playing inside center, who was that fly half? It was Vusimoyo, wasn't it? Yeah, that went really well. ⁓ what did find interesting, I saw another podcast and they were saying, do the Springboks to find a fly half that plays more consistently? Because we had four games and four fly halves. ⁓ And one of guys goes Chad: Bussi Moyo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Byron: But did they lose any of them? Chad: Did they? Byron: It's it's you know, it might not be conventional, but the i it's just because it's not conventional and it's working, that doesn't mean it's wrong. Chad: Do you know what could do? Technically with that st lineup, who was it again? It was you said Vicymorial, Pollard. Byron: ⁓ Marnie Lubbock, Sasha Feinberg and Gomezulu, Vucy Moyo and Andre Pollard. Chad: You can play all of them at the same time. You can put Marnie at fullback, you put at ten, Pollard at twelve, and Fusimoyo at thirteen. Byron: I mean very unnecessary and will never happen, but it d actually does make sense. Chad: It ⁓ you've just got ⁓ Byron: Also, I'm looking at this from I'm looking at the the announcement on rugbypass dot com. And it's funny because we have scrum half, fly half centers, and it's all small lists. And then the outside and utility backs because i you know, we've got centers at wings, wings at floor fly half, swings at scrum half, scrum half at wing. You know, it's hard to tell ⁓ position they're playing in. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: Or though out and out centers, Damien D'Alende, Astra Andre Esther Hazen, which isn't an out and out center because he's a s a flanker. and Jesse Creel. ⁓ And to end the list, the outside and utility backs you've got Curtie Arenser, Apelele Fassi, Ethan Hooker, Q1 Horn, Cheslin Colby, Kanan Moody, Edward Vanamava, and Damien Willemsa. Chad: It's forward. Yeah. Brother. Byron: It it is Chad: Is there anything in this team that that those guys can't do? I reckon if you put them in charge of the country, it would be a better place. Byron: I think we joked about it but we said when Russ is done coaching he needs to run for president. Chad: We weren't joking. I wasn't joking. Byron: And I don't I don't think he should run as an a you know in the DA or the ANC or ⁓ he needs to make a new party called like the Springbok Freedom Front. ⁓ Chad: Night. Discuss Yep. Byron: that's it, he runs for president, Sia Khaleesi as vice president, ⁓ we clean the country up one rock at a time. Chad: Mm-hmm. Everybody learns how to scrum. Everyone like on get a public holiday called Rusty Day, everyone gets a bottle of clippies. Byron: WHAAA Chad: and just has a lack of time. And they line it up with the like the nations championship final. Byron: Or the world the the World Cup final. Chad: we won' we want both. We wanna watch us win both. Byron: Every w every rugby world cup final is a public holiday. Chad: Gonna be on Saturday though, so Byron: but you'll get the Monday off. Chad: Yeah, true. To recover from the shenanigans that happens. Byron: Ha ha ha. Exactly. So, know, I I know we're joking about it but I honestly think if if he runs tomorrow Chad: Bro, he would get the country at least. ⁓ Byron: There's there's only thing he has to do is not join an existing party. 'Cause that comes with historical hate from both sides or from however many parties there are. Chad: No, no, no. Started on Yeah. Byron: New party. I don't think Springbrock Freedom Front's a good name. I just that was the first one that popped it popped into my head. sounds like a I don't know, like a rebellious gang that would be put together. The rebellious Springbrock Freedom. Anyway. Chad: I love it. I'm all for it. Well you'd have Bucky Sporta and Matfield. ⁓ no. ⁓ Byron: Bucky's butter will be in charge of criminal corrections. Crime drops overnight. this is such a stupid idea, I love it. Also ⁓ Chad: This is why we can't have this podcast when there's no not enough rugby on. Look at look at what happens to the show. Byron: Look at what we're talking about. Also, instead of like having police dogs and stuff, we can have Cheslin Colby, Kurtley Arenser, and those oaks chase down the criminals because no one's gonna get away. ⁓ Chad: Ha ha ha. No, not even a BMW a Stolen BMW ⁓ three. ⁓ Byron: No, because as soon as you start driving away, Zachary Pawthon will just lift it up overhead. All right. What are the names that are missing from the list, Chad? Did you find it? Chad: Ha ha ha. Okay. ⁓ no, I got distracted. Evan Ruis was one. Papir was the other one. ⁓ Hugo Fenter was the other one. And Yacko Williams. Byron: Okay. I mean, look, to be fair, he did have his debut he did great. But if you look at the the list that has been picked, it's not as if there's space. The Papier one is killing me, but who do you re who do you if you take Papier, you you can't get rid of Grant Williams. I think Mornay Vandenberg has the potential to be one of our top scrum halves. Chad: Yeah. I know. On the spot, yeah. Mm. Byron: so the option would be to replace Yankes or Reinach. Chad: w I think I would. Byron: I would too, but who do you pick out of the two? Chad: You flip a coin. Byron: Well, that's wild behavior. Chad: It's tough. I mean no, that's a thing. Byron: 'Cause neither of them have done anything wrong and I think when Herschel Yankees came on against Wales, he was great. Chad: Yeah. You could maybe make the argument that Reinach ⁓ done couple of knock ons. Byron: Who's older between ⁓ Chad: Yankees will be younger, for sure. Byron: Pum pum pum. Chad: But Russi made a good point about the whole age thing. He's like, if you are training and playing like a twenty three year old, you're not doesn't matter. Byron: Then it doesn't matter. Yeah, Yankees is 30 and Reynach's 36. So, you know, to be 37 by the time the World Cup's fine. Yeah, I wish I could do that. I miss that ad so much. Especially because you don't get all gold here. this episode, not sponsored by all gold monsters. Chad: There is six. Yeah. Bradley not brought to you, but all got Byron: It probably not brought you bar or gold tomorrow source. It is such a I I just I think Papier deserves a shot. Maybe he is for the for the next thing, maybe just not for the greatest rivalry. Maybe we went for a little more experience than some of the newer guys. Chad: I think so too. A B Yeah, I dj I know. I just feel bad for the Oak. Like he's done good good things. ⁓ Byron: Everything right. Great great URC season. performed well when he got the the green and gold. So it is ⁓ it's a little unfortunate for him too, I agree with you. Chad: ⁓ and same for Evan Rus. Like also done I don't yeah. Byron: Mm-hmm. But then again you look at the you look at the loose forwards that were picked. Chad: Yeah. Byron: There's it's I mean trying to find something you can maybe make the argument for Vincent Tsuka, but I think he had such a good season for the Sharks. Like it's Chad: Yeah, no. I think Vincent Vincent earned his spot there. Byron: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where else you would put him. Chad: I think this ⁓ do you think it's a problem like do you think it's one of the downsides of having such a so many good players and such a big squad that if Oaks like Papir and Urus keep getting I don't wanna call a drop but not not picked. I wonder what that does for the player. Byron: Well, I'm not professional athlete. ⁓ Chad: Really? Byron: But I would think that if you like from watching Chasing the Sun and watching that other Russie, what was that Russie podcast where they were talking about the rules? Yes. If you watch those, you kind of get an idea of what they're doing. And if I were someone like Papir, I think it would only be more motivating get into the squad, considering that it's Chad: C plus. Yeah. Byron: Probably the best Springbok team that has ever existed. and you can argue now between twenty fifteen All Blacks and the twenty twenty six Springboks. obviously if we win next year, the debates it's it's over. but I would think as a professional, you would want to do everything you can to get into that side. So I think it just forces you to do better. ⁓ Chad: Over. Yeah. Byron: But obviously it's gotta be gutting for not making it. I mean, you have an almost perfect season for the Bulls, make it into the URC final, play a fantastic game for the Springboks when you get called up and then you're not you're not in the squad. Chad: Yeah, it's tough. Win are we playing are we playing we play our first game away against Argentina, yeah? We're playing in Argentina, I think. Byron: But also if you I believe so. I believe we Right. Sure I can find those, yeah. Chad: Actually, do you know what there is rugby this weekend coming up? It's the NPC. Mmm starts this week. ⁓ Byron: Go anonymously. As the MPC start. Tasman Marco play at nine AM Friday morning for me. Chad: Yeah, that's what I'm wearing. Test and Marco. This was Noah Hotham's jersey. Can't see a bat. Byron: Yeah, no, the the Tasman Marcos squad is it's stacked. Chad: Bro and Canterbury are un stupid. It's the the it's crazy. But so many of the Marco have gone into the all black squad. Actually do you wanna go over that you wanna talk about that? Byron: Sure, ⁓ just for for your information, so Saturday, eighth of August, South Africa will play Argentina in Argentina. Estadio Jose Amalfitani. Chad: I try pick it They do in ⁓ Buenos Aires. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Byron: ⁓ do you bring up that have New Zealand announced their touring squad? Chad: They did, there's two players that I think are that left out. Byron: Alright, so d I'll read this list again, or do you wanna read it? And then you can tell me you read it. Chad: I don't care, whatever. can get it. I don't have it Let me get it. All black's dot com. Is that all black.com? Byron: Alright, I'm gonna be terrible with some of these names, but let's give it a bash. All right, so for hookers, they've got Asafa Amua, Cody Taylor, Samosani, Takayoho, and George Bell. Chad: Yep. Byron: those three s the first three that I read are South Walkodi Samasani. Chad: Yeah, Takayao is a fucking be like, yeah. Byron: like I again, I know I give Cody Taylor shit, but he had such an amazing season for for Crusaders. and then in the nations championship he was as good as it as good as a hooker can be. Chad: Yep. Byron: all right, then props, Ethan DeGroot, De Kruot, George Bauer, Numia, Oli Norris, Tyrell Lomax, Fletcher Newell, Pasilio Tossi, and then is this debut? Is that what that little st yep ⁓ for Ciele Luaki? Chad: Yep. Byron: so those are the props. ⁓ hold on. I think I still have the other one open. What do we got here? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight props. Makes sense. if go back. Chad: It's a lot of props, ⁓ Byron: Crops South Africa one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Chad: Is it thought it was less? Byron: I'm assuming four loose and four tight. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Alright, back to where I was. Locks Tupovai, obviously. ⁓ Patrick Tua Pulatu, Josh Lord, Sam Derry, Fabian Holland. Chad: You can't miss him. Byron: and Tripalatu. And then obviously we spoke about Fabian Holland for ages. Chad: Yeah. Byron: right, loose forwards, Peter Lucky, Simon Parker, Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson, Anton Segna, Ardi Savia, Wallace Atiti, and Semisi Tupau Tailoa. Whew excuse me. Chad: No, I think you nailed that. You're doing way better than I would have done. ⁓ I got a question. Can we stop here for a second please? Hands up. no duplicity Carifi. Byron: And I have a stutter. Of course, go ahead. I don't get it. And it's it's it's not the first time. Chad: Hey? How? Is it maybe because he's smaller? Byron: Brother, there's nothing duplicity Carifi can't do on the rugby field. Chad: I d I I know this. A hundred percent. But cannot think of another reason. Like how you get you d how you don't have him in your squad is ⁓ Byron: I mean, if I have to be a a schmuck about it, yeah, you either don't have Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder on your side, and you have Duplic Carife. And that's no disrespect to both Ethan and S I mean Ethan and Luke Jacobson, but I just feel that Duplicy Karifi deserves but whenever that oak's on the field, no ruck is safe. Chad: No. No. these fucking massive thars. ⁓ Byron: Yes. so that's a w I may may maybe it's injury related. I don't know. Chad: It's not. I take it. Byron: Okay, well then yeah, it's a little crazy to me. Scrum halves, I think these are great. Cam Roygaard, Cortez Ratama, and Carl Preston. Chad: I think Noah Hostum over Carl Preston. Byron: I agree with you. Chad: It's great. I don't I don't understand why maybe if I don't know. Maybe he's injured. But think even for the Crusaders, Noah did just a little bit more but it's I guess you go watch him at the Marco stadium, so it's pretty cool. Byron: No, he's close. I mean at the end of the day, it's really gonna be between Cam Roygaard and Cortez Ratama. Chad: Yeah, two. Byron: Yeah. Like even if even if Noah was there, like great, cool. But it's Roy God starts and Ratima comes on. Like those are by far the two best all black scrum offs at the Chad: Yeah. Byron: right, then first eighths, as the the Kiwis like to put it, we have Ruben Love, Bowden Barrett, Damien McKenzie, and Josh Jokum. Jake Jacob. Chad: Jacob, yeah. Byron: Yeah, no, it threw me off. Also a debut for him, which would be nice. you know where I stand on this. I think Ruben Love is the best all black's ten at the moment. ⁓ Chad: Yep. Hundred percent. I think if he if he messes up, I think Barrett slots in quick. Byron: Yeah, I think keeping Mackenzie at fifteen is still their best. Chad: Yeah. Byron: position for him. Although he will Jordan Chad: But what joining do you have in the wing? Byron: Yeah, but yeah, no, you're right. I'm wrong. Leave me alone. All right, midfielders. Geordie Barrett, Quint Apaya, Brilly Proctor, Anton Leonard Brown. Oof. Tomasi Tava Tavanawai. Whoo! It's just that I do it slow. It's almost rude. ⁓ Tava Tavanawai. ⁓ Chad: Right, nailed it. Yeah, Tavatava Nawa. He he I am so excited to watch him I wanted him to come no. I wanted him to play against Springwalks the last year when we came here. got injured l at for playing for the Marco. Bro, he is unreal. Him J C is gonna be unreal. Byron: There are so many good matchups across the park when you look at these squads. Chad: It's yeah. It doesn't matter who you Hm It's number one versus two for a reason. Like there's yeah, head and shoulders by everyone at the moment. Byron: Like it really is the world's best against the world's best. Yeah. And and like we said, like we said last week, the I think that the the gap between two and three at the moment is probably bigger than it has been in a long time. Like one and two are shit should be one two Springbok A and then and then Ireland. Chad: Yeah. It's such a shame that gonna have to play them in the semis is it semis or quarters that we have to play them? ⁓ Byron: ⁓ quarter finals. Chad: Australia can do something. Byron: You're gonna need to start doing it soon. backs, Caleb Clarp, Fehi Feneganofu. I messed that one up. Fenerganofu. Messed that one up again. Leroy Josh Morby, Will Jordan. This one's interesting. Rico Yowani. and Amani N Narawa. Narawa. due to injury. Tamati Williams, Scott Barrett, and Lester Fanganuk. Chad: Yeah, Leicester, shame. he deserved to be there, he was unreal. ⁓ Byron: Well yeah, he's he's the the utility player for them. Yeah. Chad: Yeah. They can't do utility like the Springbox can, is what we've learned from this so far. ⁓ Yeah. Byron: That's unwell no one should be able to do utility the way the Spring Box. 'Cause usually you're not fast enough to be a a flank and a winger, but you know, who makes the rules? Chad: Do you think that we get Richimawanger in for a injury of any kind? So remember in the World Cup we replaced ⁓ we brought in Pollard for Marks? Do you think they do the same thing? Byron: Yes. Yeah. Marks. Yeah. Yes. Chad: It's still think it is absolutely stupid that he's not there. ⁓ so dumb. And now he has he has to play for Canterbury. For like the NPC side, yeah. Mm. Byron: Well, if you think about it, right? You've announced the squad, take the team, go to South Africa, start the tour. Richie plays a game for Canterbury. Richie then gets called up for the squad after he plays his game for Canterbury. Chad: It's so it is just such a dumb thing. And I think it's because was I forgot who I was speaking to, but they were saying that he was only eligible after like the Thursday after they had named the squad and they named the squad on the Tuesday or something s silly like that. Byron: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's gonna go play that opening game. And then he'll be eligible. And then he'll be like, ⁓ do you know what we need? Another fly half. I don't know why, but it would be nice. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, we've got Carl Preston's t pulled a hammy. Byron: Yeah. we lost the prop. Bring in Richie. I know, it it I think it it's it's wild that he doesn't play and I think that the sport would be better to watch him in it. So I hope he does get called up. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: But looking at the two squads, it you you feel like teams could play any combination of any player in that position that they have available, and are competitive. Chad: Hundred percent. Byron: Like even these guys that are making their debuts are still good enough to be playing at the the tippity tippity top level. Chad: It i it's it's gonna be such a good how many weeks is it? Eight weeks? ⁓ or six no, six weeks or something? Byron: Well I just I don't know 'cause the is there a gap between the last game in SA and then the Chad: has it here. So it starts on the eighth of August and ends on the thirteenth ⁓ September. there is a gap. Byron: Yeah. It would make sense that this. Chad: What time is that last one? Nine AM for me. Hell yeah. On Sunday I'm having brandy and Cokes at nine AM. Byron: Let's message Flyairlink, the top sponsor for the greatest rivalry, and ask if they'll fly us from game to game for fun. Chad: For all of them? Cat. Byron: first game, seven August, DHL Stormers with the All Black. Chad: Amen. Byron: Then the Sharks All Blacks on the eleventh of August. all blacks fifteenth. Then the twenty second, twenty ninth, and the fifth of September. I know there's no breaks ⁓ the international start. Chad: Imagine the Sharks win that game. You're missing a game on the twenty s there is, on the sixth and then the thirteenth. ⁓ no, that's not a break. I'm lying. Sorry. It's not a break. There's no breaks. Sorry. It's late ya. It's late. Leave me alone. Stop pulling me. Byron: Chad, that's not a break. That's what what Chad, what are you Chad, what are you talking about? ⁓ and then also nice, it looks like the curtain razor for the Springbox All Blacks ⁓ in F B stadium is Springbox Woman versus the Black Phones. Chad: Hell yeah. You're gonna beat them twice. Byron: that's it's that's so exciting. We've got some club rugby coming up and some international fixtures soon. Chad: Yeah, it was a bit of a weird episode this one, but still a bit fun. Still love doing it. Byron: We will pick another NRL game to watch this coming weekend. And we'll also watch obviously the Curry Cup and the actually, I did have a question about the NRL. Maybe you can help me, maybe someone else can help me. Someone in the comments. How much did Harvey Norman pay the NRL so that every time there's a try? We get to watch the Harvey the Harvey Norman replay. That's what I wanna know. Chad: How you know when I can find out for you. Byron: Because were fourteen hundred tries in that game, and every time there was a try I had to hear about the Harvey Norman replay. Chad: they whatever they paid, they got their money's worth. Byron: Jeez, every every now we have a look at the Harley the Harvey Norman replay. The Harvey Norman replay. And you'll see here on the Harvey Norman replay. That's that's Chad: He's We'll we'll we'll clip it and ship it and tag Harvey Norman and see how much if someone replies to us. Byron: Harvey Norman, w you know what? If if if if you if they give us some form of of money, will say Harvey Norman replay the same amount of times as any game you pick in the NRL that week. In a row. That's the whole segment will be the Harvey Norman replay segment from and then you pick a game from the NRL. Chad: ⁓ In a row. Just like a whole segment of RV Norman ⁓ Byron: 'Cause in the last one he said it forty eight times and I'll start each episode with forty eight Harvey Norman replays. Okay. Chad: I love it. We can do a whole we can tell yeah, we could we'll we'll re we'll rebrand for one one week the the Harvey Norman Byron: As the Harvey the ha cut the Harvey Norman or something, we'll figure it out. Okay. Enough nonsense. Chad, I think we cut the cuck. Chad: Yeah. We did. It was fun. Be good. actually, sorry. My thing's just done doing thing. ⁓ I was looking at the the packs and the weights for the squad. So let do this. Let me make this bigger so it don't mess this up. Cat. Byron: Do it. Okay. They're reading's hard laugh. Chad: Yeah. Springboks have a forty three man squad, all blacks named a forty four man squad, so that's just quick math, ⁓ one Byron: Well, Springbox is now forty four because we added in Tunu. Chad: Okay. Well then this is these numbers don't make sense. No, maturity's in here. In the squad. Byron: So they're both forty four. Whatever, just go on. Whatever you're doing, go on. Chad: the total squad weights, which is this is astronomical numbers. The springbox, four thousand five hundred and fourteen kilograms. The All Blacks, 4,617 kilograms. They weigh a hundred and three more. But if you're saying shoot is in here, then that yeah. The average player weight Byron: Then that balances out. Imagine being the airline. Chad: That's four and a half ton of just just people. ⁓ Byron: Just yeah. Never mind the the the the the sports bags and the kits and the boots and four and a half times four and a half tons of human. And that's not inc including the the coaching staff, medical, all the other stuff that comes with it. That's Chad: Yeah, that's unreal. Yeah, that's just the players. The average weight of each team, so the Springboks are one hundred and four point nine eight kilograms, and the all blacks are one hundred and four point nine three kilograms. So we are same same. ⁓ average forwards, we are one hundred and seventeen kgs and they're hundred and thirteen kgs. The average back is I don't know how true this is. We might Byron: Same's is. Same thing. Chad: We'll definitely go double check these But the average back account apparently is eighty-nine point seven kgs for the Springboks and ninety-three point nine for the all black. Byron: Might be because we've got four scrum arves and they have three. Chad: true. Byron: that's someone lost twenty kilos there in between somewhere. Chad: Yeah. It's just crazy. And that that's why I was th this was one of the things I was thinking, like it's the only reason I can think why Dublin Security's not dead. Byron: He's big enough, he's strong enough. Chad: I think so too. I just yeah. It's crazy. I mean but Byron: Well, we're not selectives for a reason, I guess. Chad: Mm. We do have four Rugby World Cups though, so Byron: Are you you you you you have them? ⁓ we Okay. Chad: We we it's a country where the whole country gets them. Byron: right. Chad we cut the cuck. Thank you for those that watch. Thank you for those that support. ⁓ we really appreciate it. This is a lot of fun to do and we hope to keep doing it. Chad: Did Byron: See ya!