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MINI SCROLL: Ariana Grande defends Ethan Slater, Sydney Crumbl Cookie saga + Brianna Chickenfry blasts DM troll (gone wrong) · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll everyone, and happy October.
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  star review. All right, let's get into these
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  stories for today. So the first story is that
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  Ariana Grande has spoken publicly for the first time
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  about her boyfriend, Ethan Slater in a new Vanity Fair
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  interview. This is basically the first time
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  that she has spoken about him publicly, so I'm going to read
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  some quotes. It definitely doesn't get any
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  easier seeing some of the negativity that was birthed by
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  disreputable tabloids. Of course, I went through a lot
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  of life changes during the filming of this movie.
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  A lot of people that were working on it did.
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  We were away for two years, so of course I understand why it
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  was a field day for the tabloids to sort of create something that
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  paid their bills. She also said the most
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  disappointing part was to see so many people believe the worst
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  version of it. That was definitely a tough
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  ride. There couldn't be a less
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  accurate depiction of a human being than the one that the
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  tabloids spread about him. So if you guys don't remember,
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  it was speculated and kind of confirmed by his ex-wife, by
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  Ethan Slaters ex-wife that he and Ariana started something
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  while they were still married and she was freshly postpartum.
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  And then about Ethan, Ariana said no one on this earth tries
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  harder or spreads themselves thinner to be there for the
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  people that he loves and cares about.
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  There is no one on this earth with a better heart and that is
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  something that no bullshit tabloid can rewrite in real
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  life. Honestly, it's taken me a lot of
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  hard work to be able to last this long and to heal certain
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  parts of my relationship to fame and to do what I do because of
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  these tabloids that have been trying to destroy me since I was
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  19 years old. But you know what?
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  I'm 31 years old and I'm not a perfect person, but I am
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  definitely deeply good and I'm proud of who I'm becoming.
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  I will never let disreputable evil tabloids ruin my life or my
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  perception of what is real and good.
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  The tabloid thing, it just doesn't land when Ethan Slater's
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  wife has come out and in a very roundabout way, but like, she
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  still made a public statement about this.
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  And I understand the media tabloids, like they take
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  something and they run with it, but there is usually an element
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  of truth to it. And I think that just her
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  putting like this blanket statement, like the evil
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  tabloids trying to destroy my life, I think that's an
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  interesting narrative. But I think it comes back to
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  whenever we have spoken about influencers and their inability
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  to like, properly reflect, when they get some type of big
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  scandal or backlash. And you know, we've talked about
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  it so many times on this podcast.
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  But like, I truly believe that they can't really grow and
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  change and properly reflect, at least not anytime soon from that
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  scandal because the amount of feedback that they get and the
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  amount of like, hate that they get in that moment is too
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  overwhelming. So it's like self preservation,
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  continue to see yourself in a more positive light and kind of
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  giving yourself the benefit of the doubt in these situations,
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  no matter what you've done in this situation.
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  Obviously it's Ariana was being accused of being a home wrecker,
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  right? So it's like she's not going to
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  be able to believe that about herself.
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  And maybe that's not her truth. Like who literally knows what
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  Ethan has told her. OK, that's a big one.
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  Men be lying. We have no idea what Ethan
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  Slater told her about the status of his relationship when they
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  started talking and seeing each other.
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  But also, you know, like you would have to just truly believe
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  to yourself because the whole world is calling you one
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  horrible negative thing And like, how damaging would that be
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  to your own self esteem and yourself perception if you
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  believed it? That's my theory on that.
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  OK, the next story that I have for you guys, I can't, I can't.
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  I got tagged in this on TikTok like multiple times and I almost
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  talked about it yesterday. I'm kind of glad I didn't
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  because I didn't have the full picture, but we're going to be
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  talking about the Sydney crumble cookie pop up drama.
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  So N Bondi's crumble cookie pop up is going viral all over
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  TikTok right now because it wasn't like a legit pop up
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  affiliated with the brand. So you guys know crumble
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  cookies, they are like this culty brand.
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  I think they're one of the fastest growing brands in the
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  world. Like I think statistically they
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  are. They're only available in the US
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  and Canada. I think about crumble cookies
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  every single day. I am not even exaggerating.
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  Like cookies are my number one favorite food in the entire
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  world. Like for Christmas, for example,
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  Annabelle, who has worked for me for four years, will get me a
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  box of cookies. Like she will go on like a
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  pilgrimage to a certain bakery in Sydney and get me like a box
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  of cookies. Like I am addicted to cookies.
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  I love cookies. They're like my favorite thing
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  in the world. So of course, the fact that I
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  can't get crumble cookies, the most viral cookies that I so
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  desperately want to try. And I love a sugar cookie.
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  So when I see those sugar cookies that have like the pink
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  on them, Oh my God, I want to try that one so bad.
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  So anyways, you can't get them in Australia obviously.
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  So I think about them all the time on Sunday.
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  This is like my own anecdote about this.
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  Like this is how I am like related to this story.
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  This is how this story has personally affected me.
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  So on Sunday I did literally nothing.
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  Like I just had like a rotting day.
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  It was raining. I was just like on the couch
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  hanging out. And then at like 8:00 PM, after
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  doing literally nothing all day and having the whole day where I
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  could have done this, I saw that crumble did a pop up in North
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  Bondi in Sydney. And I was like, are you kidding
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  me? I could have gone.
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  I would have stood in line for four fucking hours for those
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  cookies. I was freaking out.
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  I was so upset. I'm actually going to put a
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  screenshot of the text that I sent Sean, my husband when I saw
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  this TikTok on the screen. If you guys watch, it's kind of
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  unhinged. But I was freaking out that I
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  couldn't even type properly. Like I was in panic mode that I
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  had missed these cookies. I was like screaming like I was
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  so upset. And then thankfully I came to
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  discover that it wasn't actually the real Crumble.
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  Now apparently the cookies are real, so I'll get into it, but
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  apparently the cookies are real, but it was not affiliated with
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  Crumble. OK, so here's like kind of the
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  full picture, although we don't really know what happened or
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  like what is going on. So from what the organizers have
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  said on TikTok and in comments and via DMS to people who have
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  been questioning them, and then those people have been posting
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  these DM screenshots, they claim that they are basically just
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  like fans of the brand. So they say that they flew to
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  Hawaii and bought like 1000 crumble cookies and imported
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  them back to Australia to resell, but that they're not
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  like affiliated with the brand. This was not like a licensing
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  deal with crumble. However, apparently before
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  people discovered like that they had just done this themselves,
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  They were kind of insinuating in roundabout ways on their TikTok
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  that they were crumble. Like people would be like,
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  there's no way this is crumble, Crumble is not available in
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  Australia. And then they would comment
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  something like, again, this is all like alleged.
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  No, we are crumble. I think they were saying that
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  because they are actually crumble cookies because one of
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  the theories for a long time was like someone's grandma found the
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  crumble cookie recipe and it was making like 1000 fake crumble
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  cookies with some type of very similar recipe and they were
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  selling them and using the branding to sell it.
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  But they're saying like, no, these are crumble cookies.
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  Like we are crumble, but like we're not like affiliated with
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  crumble if that makes sense. OK.
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  It's still unclear by the way, who these organizers are.
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  This is my Roman Empire. Like please someone slide into
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  my DMS and tell me if you know who these people could be.
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  I need to know the people that were working the pop up, they
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  were like teenagers. And I guess like the organizers
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  shared a screenshot of like their or like a spreadsheet of
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  like their breakdown of costs at some point.
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  And it said that they spent like $1000 on staff.
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  So I'm presuming that they hired like event staff to do, you
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  know, like hand out the cookies, sell the cookies.
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  Or it could have just been like their friends kids or whatever,
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  but they're like teenagers, Although I don't think it was
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  teenagers that organized this. So they had an Instagram called
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  like Sydney Crumble and then they also have a TikTok.
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  As far as I know, the TikTok is still up, but the Instagram has
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  been taken down because like it's not affiliated with crumble
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  and they're using their logo, their branding, their color
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  scheme. They're marketing it as a
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  crumble cookie, like a crumble pop up, but it's literally just
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  not. They're just reselling crumble
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  cur. They were just reselling crumble
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  cookies that they bought 7 days ago.
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  You guys, 7 days ago, some of the information that they were
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  sharing implied that they bought the cookies seven days allegedly
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  before they sold them. Like do we think that they were
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  frozen? I have so many questions.
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  Like I guess if you bring them in suitcases on a plane, you
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  check them underneath the plane is so so cold.
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  Like it is possible that that they stayed like frozen or like
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  maybe kind of fresh. OK so at this pop up they were
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  selling these cookies that had been purchased allegedly 7 days
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  before for between 15 and 17. Fifty $15 and 17501750 for a
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  cookie. Honestly I would have bought
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  like 500. I'm not even joking.
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  Like I am desperate to try a crumble cookie.
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  I would have paid any price to try one before I knew that they
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  were shipped on a plane 7 days before that.
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  So now everyone is basically questioning like this is viral
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  because it's so bizarre and everyone is questioning of the
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  legal ramifications of this. So like I said, the legal
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  ramifications around them using crumbles, branding and like
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  reselling their product without permission, without licensing.
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  There's also questions around breaching health and safety
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  regulations with food sales because again, were these
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  actually purchased 7 days before?
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  And then there's questions obviously of breaching some type
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  of like customs law with like mass import of food from another
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  country. Australia has very strict laws
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  about like bringing food and like biohazards and things like
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  that into the country because it's an island.
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  Obviously it's isolated. However, they did apparently
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  show some document on TikTok, like a customs document that I
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  guess shows that they were approved to bring the cookies
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  in. But then there's all these
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  questions about like the business tax because they mass
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  imported and sold like commercial use.
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  I don't know. I have no idea what's going on.
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  If you guys are like lawyers or if you have any information on
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  this, let me know. So I need to know and we all
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  need to know. I need to let the scrollers know
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  like we need closure on this story.
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  This is like a mystery like and the messages so like some people
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  have been posting, like I said, like DM messages between
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  themselves and the crumble cookie TikTok account.
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  And I don't know if that TikTok account is run by one of the
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  teenagers that was working there, but it appears so because
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  the DMS that they are sending people are so wild and
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  unprofessional. Like every sentence has like a
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  question mark at the end because they're like, you know, like
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  they're they're making a statement, but they're putting a
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  question mark at the end as if to like make the person asking
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  them questions feel fucking stupid.
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  Being like, I can't believe you would ask this.
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  Like it's obviously XYZ question mark, you know, it's like that.
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  It's so infuriating. I'm like, what is going on?
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  I need to know. I need to know.
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  So if you guys know, let me know so then I can let everybody else
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  know. OK, Thank you.
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  OK, and the last story that I have for you guys is that
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  Brianna Chicken Fry is being accused of doxing a completely
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  innocent woman because someone was impersonating this woman in
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  her DMS and slid into her DMS saying something nasty.
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  I know that sounds a bit convoluted, but stick with me.
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  So this just happened like a few hours ago.
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  So basically, Brianna posted a screenshot a few hours ago on
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  her Instagram stories of Adm that she received from a woman
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  named Charlotte. Now she had her full name in the
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  DM, she had her full handle in the DM, and her photo was
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  visible. And Charlotte's message to
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  Brianna said this is the most ugly outfit I've ever seen and
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  you look like shit too. And then Brianna wrote what a
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  nice woman over top of the screenshot that is a very mean
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  DM. So then she posted another
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  screenshot of Charlotte's Instagram profile.
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  So it says her name. It has like a little heart, hand
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  heart emoji. And then it tags JP Morgan.
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  So she basically has JP Morgan tagged in her bio as if like she
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  works there obviously. And this account has 915
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  followers, which I think is notable and you will find out
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  why in a minute. It is a private account and
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  Brianna wrote I wonder if your company JP Morgan is proud to
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  employ bullies. And she had tagged JP Morgan and
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  then she posted another story that said at JP Morgan you
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  should really look into your employee at Charlotte and her
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  handle. She says vile things online to
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  strangers. I can't imagine what she says
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  about her Co workers. And then she posted, Brianna
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  posted like a zoomed in screenshot of this girl's photo
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  from her profile picture. So it's like really big on her
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  story. And she wrote Charlotte looking
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  in the mirror, telling herself, no, I am a good person.
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  And then Brianna posted a screenshot of text messages
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  which basically claim that the woman in the photo that she has
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  been like putting on blast that is a different woman.
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  So the woman in the photo, her name is not Charlotte.
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  She does not work at JP Morgan. Her name is Emily.
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  And someone has been using her photo to impersonate and like
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  troll people using this photo. And then she wrote again, just
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  wanted to fill you guys in in case you know, the real girl in
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  the photo is not a troll. She and then she posted a
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  screenshot of someone's Instagram profile called Emily
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  and she wrote we have contacted the sweet lady whose poor
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  pictures are being used. People please report the
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  Charlotte girl for using Emilyn photos.
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  OK, so that all happened like I said just a couple hours ago.
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  And then after that, Emily, who's I guess photos are being
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  used as Charlotte, made a tick tock and talked about this
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  experience and basically asked Rihanna to take the stories
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  down, but Brianna has not taken them down, at least at the time
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  of recording. OK, so there are a lot of
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  questions. A lot of people don't
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  necessarily believe that this girl is not also Charlotte
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  because she has 19. What did I say?
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  Oh, 915 followers. It's a private account.
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  Like it seems like a filled out account.
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  So people are like, this is not like a burner account, a troll
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  account. It doesn't look like it would
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  even be, like, an impersonation account.
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  So people are kind of feeling like maybe that part of the
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  story is not totally true. And, you know, this girl is just
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  kind of, like, freaking out and asking people to message Brianna
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  saying, like, this is, like, not actually her.
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  This picture is not actually her.
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  People are impersonating her. Like, who knows?
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  I would probably do that, too if somebody who had over a million
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  followers and such a rabid fanbase was, like, putting me on
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  blast like that. Yeah, Like, I might be lying and
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  saying like, well, it wasn't actually me.
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  That aside, like, who knows, right?
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  And I don't think we'll ever find out.
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  But I think the interesting part of the story, which we haven't
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  really spoken about a lot, and I think that's because, like, I
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  have no idea how I feel about it, is when you send a nasty
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  message to an influencer or celebrity and they post that
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  without anything blurred out. You know, they keep your name,
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  they keep your handle, your photo, all of that.
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  Is that ethical? Is that right?
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  Because on one hand, some people feel like, well, that's the risk
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  that you take if you're going to be an asshole to someone in
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  their DMS, you know, you kind of have to, if you can't dish it,
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  what is it? What's that saying?
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  If you can't take it, don't dish it or whatever, You know what I
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  mean? Like you just have to expect
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  that that could happen. And we've seen this happen so
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  many times. So, like, it is kind of crazy
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  that anyone is still doing that and expecting that it is a
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  possibility, especially someone like Brianna.
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  Like Brianna is so bold, like to not have the possibility of that
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  being posted. I think it's a bit naive.
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  On the other hand, there is a power dynamic at play, right?
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  So like influencers, celebrities, they have signed up
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  to have millions of followers and therefore millions of people
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  giving them feedback. So, you know, when this is
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  posted on their story now they're putting that attention
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  on that private citizen who obviously did not sign up for
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  that, is not used to having all of that feedback, that
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  attention. That is a power dynamic that is
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  them or a power play like that is the celebrity or the
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  influencer kind of indirectly asking their fan base to go
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  after them and to defend them. And it is different than posting
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  a comment publicly. I think if you're going to post
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  a comment publicly, then absolutely.
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  I think it's fair game. Private though has a bit more
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  nuance but like I also don't know I don't.
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  My whole team and I were talking about this before I started
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  recording and I have no idea where I sit for the most part.
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  Most of the girls that work for me are like, I don't think you
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  should do it. I think it's unethical.
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  There is this power dynamic at play, You know, they don't think
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  that you should be that a celebrity or an influencer
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  should be putting any private citizen on blast like that
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  because it is kind of sending like hate and bullying their
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  way. Because I see both sides.
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  And I do feel like you just shouldn't stoop to that level
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  for sure. Like just block that person and
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  move on. But I also understand that if
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  you're getting fucking hate messages day in and day out,
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  sometimes you're just going to catch someone at a bad time time
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  and at some point they're going to break.
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  At some point they're going to retaliate.
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  And like, it could be your message that they decide to
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• 19:47
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• 19:49
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