Latest / HAVE FAITH LET IT BEGIN® / A Doctor's Journey: Finding Gratitude and Purpose
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- 0:00Music.
- 0:15Here is your host, Dr. E. Howdy, Croc Nation.
- 0:18Dr. Tommy and Ellie here with you with another special Croc podcast.
- 0:24Alongside, across the, through the oceans of space and the internet is my friend
- 0:30and co-host, Angel Santana.
- 0:32Angel, how are you, my friend? You know, not too bad, not too shabby.
- 0:37We are moving forward and the Citizens United to Overcome Cancer is back on another Sunday.
- 0:43It's such a great Sunday too, because this is the kickoff for our Thanksgiving week.
- 0:49And I wanted to ask you, Angel, any particular Thanksgiving traditions that
- 0:55you have with your family?
- 0:56Well, yes. And I'm about to break tradition. So let me answer your question first.
- 1:01Yes, tradition is rice and beans. We do the turkey.
- 1:05Usually, instead of a turkey, we actually do a penil. but
- 1:09this year angel is hosting his own mini
- 1:12thanksgiving so i will be cooking rice and
- 1:15beans and my wife is going to be cooking a ham let us
- 1:18pray no kidding wow that's fabulous so
- 1:21we'll try something new absolutely so angel
- 1:25i i was you know getting ready to prepare this podcast and this is a very special
- 1:30podcast right because it's the uh sunday right before thanksgiving and i was
- 1:34looking at some of our old pre-thanksgiving podcasts and i think the one that
- 1:38comes to mind is our famous podcast that we did with Ramon Ruda.
- 1:44What a fascinating and intriguing and such respect to Ramon,
- 1:50who did a beautiful, I want to say it was probably a one and a half hour,
- 1:55two hour podcast on his life about having breakfast with President Carter and
- 2:01what he did in the Bronx with the housing development.
- 2:04And it was such a blessing to have him.
- 2:07And that was, I think our first Thanksgiving podcast. And then we did one or
- 2:12two, you know, basically extolling the virtues of gratitude,
- 2:17right? Because Thanksgiving is all about being grateful.
- 2:20And we showed, you know, with the data that gratitude can assist and help a
- 2:27survivor actually have better outcomes.
- 2:30And when I was planning this episode, I was thinking about doing another traditional gratitude episode,
- 2:37basically how we can help our survivors find gratitude when there's probably
- 2:42would be very difficult to find gratitude when you've just been diagnosed with cancer.
- 2:47And you've heard of the expression, man makes plans and God laughs, right?
- 2:53So that's exactly kind of what happened. God kind of tripped me up and said,
- 2:58no, Tom, you're not going to be doing that podcast. You're going to be doing another podcast.
- 3:03So this is a really wonderful story, a very profound story.
- 3:07Maybe one of the most profound and moving moments that I've had actually in my entire career.
- 3:13And as I said, we're going to have talk about this. This.
- 3:17This couple, we're going to call them Jim and Deborah. And it starts on a beautiful fall day.
- 3:24And Denise and I were going on a hike. We went up to Sam's Point.
- 3:28Anybody in the Hudson Valley area who has ever heard or seen Sam's Point knows
- 3:33exactly how beautiful it is.
- 3:36You take a nice, beautiful walk up to the
- 3:38top of this really rocky crag and you look over
- 3:41the entire Hudson Valley and it's majestic and
- 3:45the leaves were turning and everything was just gorgeous and
- 3:49we went on to go to lunch at a little local restaurant that we like and and
- 3:55i mentioned to denise that there was a patient that i wanted to stop in and
- 4:00see on the way home i wanted to do a home visit or do an old fashioned house call.
- 4:06And, and it just so happened again, God put our trajectory of where we were
- 4:14and where we needed to go to have this patient in his wife's house exactly right on the way home.
- 4:20So it was just almost as if it was meant to happen.
- 4:24And I asked, you know, do you mind if we go to see, you know,
- 4:29Jim and Deborah? And she said, no, let's, let's stop by.
- 4:32So we told them waitress give us a couple of
- 4:35give us a couple of sandwiches put them in a bag and we're
- 4:38going to go bring him over and go see some nice people and
- 4:42i wanted to give you a little background on jim and deborah so
- 4:45unfortunately jim had stage four metastatic cancer
- 4:49that had spread and pretty much had ravaged his body and he was getting near
- 4:55the end and deborah was calling me and actually called me off and to try to
- 5:00get some advice and see what she can do to make him more comfortable or just
- 5:06trying to go through the process of the end of life process.
- 5:10And since he was officially at this point, bed bound, I agreed to do the home visit.
- 5:16So Angel, I want to take a little bit of a, of a tangent, little tangent first,
- 5:22and take a quick look and talk about house.
- 5:26Calls in general and kind of look at some of the things that I think about them
- 5:32or some of the things that I think are advantageous.
- 5:34So just to go on record, I'm a big fan of house calls. I'll tell you why in a moment.
- 5:41I used to do many, many house calls very frequently when I was a younger doc.
- 5:47And basically what I would do is I would pick up some food and I would go for a visit.
- 5:52I would go to my brother-in-law's restaurant, get a tray of chicken form or
- 5:56get some pizza and bring it over to the family and sit down and just kind of
- 6:00get to know them or, you know, try to help them with whatever challenges that
- 6:05they were going through.
- 6:06And mainly these were patients that were on hospice, but not always.
- 6:10Sometimes they were just patients that I really connected with.
- 6:13And I just wanted to kind of get to know better or try to help out of a jam.
- 6:18And I have to be honest with you. I know you probably would not have a hard
- 6:23time believing this, but I actually love doing home visits. I actually love doing house calls.
- 6:28And as I got busier and busier over the years, my house calls became fewer and fewer.
- 6:34And now actually it's very unusual for me to do a home visit because I just
- 6:38unfortunately don't have the time.
- 6:40So as it relates to this story, you know, it just was basically put right in front of me.
- 6:47It was laid right in front of me. It was almost as if it was a divine call for
- 6:51me to make this house call.
- 6:52So just a quick couple of advantages of what the home visit or house call has for the doctor.
- 6:59The visit is on, as you can tell, it's a home visit. So it's on the survivor's
- 7:04home court or home field, right?
- 7:07So they feel more relaxed. They're more comfortable.
- 7:10Also, there's no rough like in the office when you have, you know,
- 7:15three survivors double booked and you have everyone who wants a piece of you
- 7:19and the nurses want you to sign this or sign that.
- 7:22And the therapist needs you to go check on a case or look at a CT.
- 7:26So, you know, you don't have that when you go make a home visit.
- 7:30In addition, survivors are surrounded by their support team.
- 7:34And usually the spouses we've already met in the office, but we get to meet their children.
- 7:40We get to meet their dogs and their pets. We get to meet their grandkids,
- 7:45their friends, their neighbors.
- 7:47And it's usually a very rewarding experience for everybody.
- 7:52And the survivors are more open to share during a home visit.
- 7:57They feel more comfortable. They open up. They're able to share more and you'll
- 8:02gain invaluable insight, just not just into the survivor themselves,
- 8:07but just into their physical environment,
- 8:10their psychosocial environment, their economic environment, their resources,
- 8:14the spirituality of the survivor that you're caring for.
- 8:18All of this, you wouldn't get unless you walked into someone's home.
- 8:22You'll also be in a far better position to advise them on situations that actually,
- 8:28you you actually see stairs up going up to the third floor of a bedroom that
- 8:34obviously they're not going to be using anymore or actually seeing where their
- 8:38bathroom is in proximity or to see if the wheelchair can get around that curve.
- 8:43Looking at their yard, if you want to advise them to be able to go outside and
- 8:48sit down and have a glass of lemonade or iced tea or whatever and enjoy the beautiful fall colors,
- 8:55see where their bedrooms are. Is the bed sufficient?
- 8:59Are they going to get bed sores? Just basically to get a lay of the land angel, if you know what I mean.
- 9:06And you'll now be viewed not just as their doctor, but also as their friend.
- 9:11And that will strengthen your role as a healer.
- 9:15And it will actually make that relationship very, very strong and very tight.
- 9:20And you'll be able to benefit them more as far as them being compliant with what you recommend.
- 9:27You could also leisurely take a deep dive into a survivor's fears and their
- 9:33anxieties and their belief systems.
- 9:35And their views on death, you could actually ask them these things and not feel
- 9:40rushed or not feel pushed to have to get an answer in an office,
- 9:46whereas you're sitting down and you could really get to read them quite well
- 9:50on these very important matters that we don't usually have time to discuss.
- 9:55And you'll also have a valuable opportunity to support and acknowledge and uplift the survivor's family.
- 10:02They've been going through so much. I've always said that a survivor's family
- 10:06has gone through everything that the survivor has gone through.
- 10:10Maybe they weren't on the machine, but up to that point, pretty much everything else.
- 10:16And they really need that reinforcement and that uplifting.
- 10:21And they want also to feel that they could let go.
- 10:27They want to have permission. It's almost as if they want to be rid of any guilt
- 10:32that they might feel if their loved one does pass away while they're at home.
- 10:37And what to expect when somebody does pass in the home.
- 10:41And you have now a chance to meet the person and the survivor again.
- 10:48Who they were before they became a survivor.
- 10:51And I think that's maybe the most important point is that universally,
- 10:55you know, people are surrounded by photos and mementos, you know, of a life well lived.
- 11:00You can see pictures of them on vacation or in their occupation or at a life
- 11:05event, like the birth of their children or the birth of their grandchildren.
- 11:10And, and these photos and mementos, they show a hardly recognizable person to
- 11:16the, to the person, to the survivor, to the patient that you know,
- 11:20they, you know, in this case, Jim was a very muscular, strong,
- 11:25happy, joyful, and proud man who was reduced not to that, unfortunately,
- 11:31because of his struggle and his journey with cancer.
- 11:34But sorry about the tangent, but let's get back to Jim and Deborah.
- 11:39So Denise and I, you know, we find the house and we bring a beautiful box of
- 11:45food in our hands and we go to, you know, the front door and we're greeted by
- 11:50Debra and by her dog and we're petting her dog.
- 11:54And we meet the daughter-in-law and they bring us into the living room and we
- 11:58sit down and we have, you know, a lot of niceties and platitudes and things like that.
- 12:03And then we start getting some updates, you know, what's going on with Jim,
- 12:08what's happening in the house, you know, all of the hardships and things that are going on.
- 12:13And, you know, We're petting the dog and getting these updates.
- 12:16And then we've come to find out that hospice had been in to do the consult,
- 12:22but the plan and the resources were just beginning to trickle in.
- 12:26So everything wasn't in place yet, which is why there was such angst,
- 12:32why Deborah had so many questions because they didn't have all of the teaching
- 12:36that needed all that end of life teaching.
- 12:39And they were very confused and they had a lot of questions.
- 12:42So it was, it was a blessing that we were there and we just let them talk and
- 12:47let them vent and let them cry.
- 12:50And then I took her by the hand and I asked her if we could go see Jim and she
- 12:55and I, and all of us went into the room and it was so sad because,
- 12:59you know, Jim was now completely bed bound and he was reduced to, to really a bag of bones.
- 13:06His eyes were sunken in with that faraway stare in his eyes.
- 13:12He was soiled because Deborah couldn't
- 13:16clean him up alone and help wasn't going to be due for a few hours.
- 13:21And I think, Angel, it was at that moment that I made a quick decision to...
- 13:26And I knew that Jim was dying, and I knew that he only had a few hours left
- 13:31to live, and I refused to let him die without his dignity.
- 13:36So I kicked everyone out of the room except for Deborah, and I told her to give
- 13:42me some pot with towels, some soap, and some new sheets.
- 13:46And then I did what I never thought myself capable of doing, Angel.
- 13:51I single-handedly lifted him
- 13:53out of bed. I held him with every ounce of strength and effort that I had.
- 13:59And I held him like he was dangling from a cliff.
- 14:03And if I let go, he was going to fall down the cliff.
- 14:06And I told, and I held him really like I never held anything ever before in my life.
- 14:12And I held him with the knowledge that if I dropped him, we would not be able
- 14:18to get him back up, back into the bed.
- 14:20And I asked God to give me the strength and the fortitude to complete this one
- 14:27little task that I wanted to do.
- 14:30And when I held him, Deborah quickly cleaned him.
- 14:33We changed the sheets and with my muscles twitching and fasciculating,
- 14:39and I was running out of power and running out of steam, we were able to position
- 14:45him back to a clean and crisp and warm, dry bed.
- 14:50And when our eyes met, Jim and I for the last time.
- 14:56His stare wasn't distant anymore. It was focused.
- 15:00And although he couldn't talk to me, his eyes told me everything.
- 15:05His eyes told me, thank you.
- 15:07And Deborah kissed him. And we went back to the living room to join everyone.
- 15:13And Angel, I didn't make a big deal out of it. I didn't mention what happened
- 15:18or what we did in that room.
- 15:20I knew that the story wasn't about me or what I did or what I gave to Jimmy and Debra.
- 15:26I knew that the story was about what Jimmy and Debra had given to me.
- 15:31You see, Angel, in this world of being a doctor, many people see us as glamorous.
- 15:39They see the glamour. They see the power.
- 15:42They see the wealth. They see the influence.
- 15:44They see a kind of mystique about someone who has the power at times to steal
- 15:51life from the jaws of death.
- 15:53But what people don't see is all the self-doubt.
- 15:57They don't see the guilt.
- 15:59They don't see the stress. They don't see the exhaustion.
- 16:03They don't see our actual humanity with all of our blemishes and all of our shortcomings.
- 16:09And when we need moments, we need moments like this.
- 16:14We need moments like I was in, moments
- 16:18like I spent with Jim and Debra to basically justify our sacrifice.
- 16:22We need these moments to assuage our doubts.
- 16:26We need these moments to strengthen our will and to continue our work.
- 16:31We need these moments to purify our souls, angel and sanctify and justify our
- 16:37efforts because on this coming Thursday at the Thanksgiving table.
- 16:44When it's my turn to verbalize what I'm thankful for, after I express my gratitude
- 16:50and thanks for my family and for my health, I'm going to thank God Almighty
- 16:54for giving me the opportunity, the privilege,
- 16:58the honor of being a doctor, because there is no other profession where people
- 17:03would welcome you into their homes, a virtual stranger with their loved ones on their deathbed?
- 17:11What other profession would people trust you enough to just feel safe to see
- 17:17them at their worst moment in life?
- 17:19What other profession gives you the opportunity to make such a profound impact in people's lives?
- 17:27Acts so simple, so quick, yet acts that will be remembered for a lifetime.
- 17:33I know, Angel, that God sent me to that house that day, not so I could save
- 17:39a patient, but so a patient could save me.
- 17:43Angel Santana, your thoughts? I think that given the fact that this is Thanksgiving week.
- 17:50It's just a renowned, I have no words to put a spin on it other than the fact
- 17:57that I'm just speechless about it because it's the first time I've heard the story.
- 18:01You know, they say, love your neighbor. They say, honor thy neighbor.
- 18:04They say, respect your neighbor. They say, do to others what God would do to us.
- 18:14But here's the thing, this is a great example of not doing something because
- 18:19you feel obligated, not doing something because of the fact that this is your
- 18:23job in life, doing something because you wanted to do it.
- 18:27And it's amazing to see one random act of kindness done in a professional and
- 18:35a loving and enduring way to a friend whose last hours on earth went out in dignity.
- 18:43Angel, thank you very much for those kind words. It was a tough podcast, but I have to tell you,
- 18:50I struggled with this because I didn't want our survivor thrivers to think that
- 18:56this was about me or about me bragging about doing something.
- 19:00I really wanted them to know that being a doctor, there are times when our patients.
- 19:09Infuse us with life and infuse us with a purpose and infuse us with a justification
- 19:16for all of the things that we may miss out on because of our vow to take care of the sick.
- 19:24And I think that one of the other slants that I wanted to kind of talk about
- 19:29is the fact that so many of my
- 19:33colleagues anger me, infuriate me when they complain about being a doctor.
- 19:39And I hear it sometimes in the doctor's lounges or up on the floors,
- 19:43or I might be talking to a colleague on the phone and I'll hear some,
- 19:48you know, wisecrack about, you know,
- 19:51you know, Oh my God, if I were only a stockbroker, if I was a lawyer,
- 19:55or if I was an Indian chief.
- 19:57And I think that, you know, Episodes like this or moments like this that will live in me forever,
- 20:05even though I've been doing this for decades, this was such a profound moment
- 20:11in my career, a profound moment in my life.
- 20:15You know, that it, it really crystallized or recrystallized something that I already knew.
- 20:21And that is what a privilege and honor it is to, to be a doctor,
- 20:25to be someone that can heal.
- 20:26And, and I want to now spin it back to our podcast, to our Croc Nation,
- 20:31to our Survivor Thrivers.
- 20:33It's especially edifying and invigorating for me to care for you guys.
- 20:39You guys are going through so much. And I know that this is Thanksgiving week.
- 20:43And I know that everyone from Madison Avenue to the television commercials,
- 20:47to your families, they want you to put on a brave front.
- 20:51They want you to act as if nothing is wrong, to act as if everything is okay,
- 20:57to act like you're not angry that you've just gotten word that you have terrible,
- 21:02you have a terrible, terrible nefarious disease and they want you to smile and
- 21:06eat your turkey and shut the front door.
- 21:10And I want to tell you that you have every right to do you.
- 21:16You have every right to express whatever emotion you have.
- 21:19And I want to tell you that on behalf of all the other doctors and nurses and
- 21:24practitioners that care for you, we are so lucky to do what we do to be able
- 21:31to help you, to be able to serve you.
- 21:33It is an honor and a privilege to take care of you guys.
- 21:38And that at the end of the day is what I'm thankful for.
- 21:42I'll end this podcast with the way we end every podcast.
- 21:46And fittingly, especially on today's podcast, we will end with our Croc prayer.
- 21:52That's wishing all of our survivor thrivers a long, healthy,
- 21:56happy, cancer-free life. God bless you.
- 21:59God be with you. Peace.
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