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- 0:52you
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- 0:54flying,.
- 0:54You
- 0:55missed
- 0:55the
- 0:55craziest
- 0:56era
- 0:56of
- 0:56the
- 0:56sport.
- 0:57Welcome
- 0:57back
- 0:58to
- 0:58the
- 0:58Pig
- 0:58Pen,
- 0:58where
- 0:59today
- 0:59we're
- 0:59exploring
- 1:00the
- 1:00incredible
- 1:00link
- 1:01between
- 1:01Jim
- 1:01Thorpe
- 1:02and
- 1:02the
- 1:02elite
- 1:02Heisman
- 1:03Trophy
- 1:03winners
- 1:04who
- 1:04dominated
- 1:04the
- 1:05gridiron
- 1:05by
- 1:05drop
- 1:06kicking.
- 1:06Long
- 1:06before
- 1:07the
- 1:07forward
- 1:07pass
- 1:08took
- 1:08over,
- 1:08legends
- 1:09were
- 1:09scoring
- 1:09field
- 1:10goals
- 1:10by
- 1:10bouncing
- 1:10the
- 1:11ball
- 1:11off
- 1:11the
- 1:11turf
- 1:12mid
- 1:12run
- 1:13hit.
- 1:13Subscribe
- 1:14as
- 1:14we
- 1:14unearth
- 1:14football
- 1:15history
- 1:15behind
- 1:16this
- 1:16extinct
- 1:17skill
- 1:17and
- 1:17how
- 1:18the
- 1:18football's
- 1:18own
- 1:19evolution
- 1:20even
- 1:20killed
- 1:20it
- 1:21and
- 1:21the
- 1:21icons
- 1:22who
- 1:22did
- 1:22it
- 1:22best.
- 1:23Hello,
- 1:23my
- 1:24football
- 1:24friends.
- 1:24This
- 1:24is
- 1:24Darren
- 1:25Hayes
- 1:25of
- 1:25pigskindispatch.com
- 1:26welcome
- 1:26once
- 1:27again
- 1:27to
- 1:27the
- 1:27Pig
- 1:27Pen,
- 1:28your
- 1:28portal
- 1:28to
- 1:28positive
- 1:29football
- 1:29history.
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- 1:30welcome
- 1:30to
- 1:30another
- 1:30Tuesday
- 1:31where
- 1:31we
- 1:31get
- 1:32to
- 1:32sit
- 1:32down
- 1:32and
- 1:32have
- 1:33a
- 1:33nice
- 1:33chat
- 1:33with
- 1:34our
- 1:34friend
- 1:34Timothy
- 1:35Brown
- 1:35of
- 1:35FootballArchaeology.com
- 1:36Tim,
- 1:37welcome
- 1:37back
- 1:37to
- 1:37the
- 1:37Pig
- 1:38Pen.
- 1:38Hey
- 1:38there.
- 1:39Good
- 1:39to
- 1:39see
- 1:39you
- 1:40again.
- 1:40It
- 1:41seems
- 1:41like
- 1:41a
- 1:41long
- 1:41time,
- 1:42probably
- 1:43only
- 1:44one
- 1:44week
- 1:45or
- 1:45so,
- 1:45but
- 1:45anyways,
- 1:47yeah,
- 1:47let's
- 1:48get
- 1:48to
- 1:48it.
- 1:48Got
- 1:48to
- 1:48talk
- 1:48about
- 1:50tangentially
- 1:51related
- 1:51to
- 1:52a
- 1:52famous
- 1:52football
- 1:53player
- 1:53and
- 1:53then
- 1:54some
- 1:54Heisman
- 1:55folks.
- 1:55Yeah,
- 1:56we'll
- 1:57be
- 1:57talking
- 1:57about
- 1:58an
- 1:58article
- 1:58you
- 1:58wrote,
- 1:59jim
- 2:00Thorpe
- 2:00and
- 2:00the
- 2:00Drop
- 2:01Kicking
- 2:01Heisman
- 2:02Trophy
- 2:02Winners.
- 2:02And,
- 2:03you
- 2:03know,
- 2:03Jim
- 2:04Thorpe
- 2:04just
- 2:04celebrated.
- 2:05Uh,
- 2:06we
- 2:06celebrated
- 2:07the
- 2:08date
- 2:08of
- 2:08his
- 2:08birth.
- 2:09He's
- 2:09no
- 2:09longer
- 2:09with
- 2:10us,
- 2:10but,
- 2:10uh,
- 2:10just
- 2:11the
- 2:11last
- 2:11week.
- 2:12So
- 2:12we
- 2:12had
- 2:12a
- 2:12nice
- 2:13article
- 2:13that
- 2:13on
- 2:13pigskindispatch.com
- 2:15and
- 2:15had
- 2:16some
- 2:16fun
- 2:16with
- 2:17remembering
- 2:17Jim
- 2:18Thorpe.
- 2:18And
- 2:18we're
- 2:18gonna
- 2:18have
- 2:18a
- 2:18little
- 2:18bit.
- 2:19Of
- 2:19fun
- 2:19with
- 2:19him
- 2:19today
- 2:19and
- 2:20some
- 2:20other
- 2:20great
- 2:21stars
- 2:21from
- 2:22football
- 2:22legends.
- 2:23So
- 2:23we'd
- 2:23love
- 2:23to
- 2:24hear
- 2:24about
- 2:24your
- 2:24story.
- 2:25Yeah,
- 2:25well,
- 2:26before,
- 2:26I
- 2:26was
- 2:27just
- 2:27looking
- 2:27at
- 2:27a.
- 2:28I
- 2:28was
- 2:29thinking
- 2:29about
- 2:29writing
- 2:29a
- 2:29tidbit
- 2:30this
- 2:30morning
- 2:30about
- 2:32that
- 2:32involved
- 2:32Jim
- 2:33thorpe
- 2:33from
- 2:34a
- 2:341908
- 2:35Carlisle,
- 2:36Minnesota
- 2:36game.
- 2:36But
- 2:37anyways,
- 2:38that's
- 2:38for
- 2:38another
- 2:38day.
- 2:39Yeah,
- 2:40I'm
- 2:41intrigued
- 2:41already.
- 2:42Yeah.
- 2:44So,
- 2:45yeah,
- 2:45actually,
- 2:46this
- 2:46one's,
- 2:47you
- 2:47know,
- 2:47Jim
- 2:48Thorpe
- 2:48really,
- 2:49to
- 2:49my
- 2:49knowledge,
- 2:50doesn't
- 2:50have
- 2:50anything
- 2:50to
- 2:50do
- 2:50with
- 2:51the
- 2:51Heisman.
- 2:51It
- 2:52was
- 2:52just
- 2:52that
- 2:53somebody
- 2:53had,
- 2:55you
- 2:55know,
- 2:56a
- 2:56reader
- 2:56had
- 2:56kind
- 2:57of
- 2:57said,
- 2:57hey,
- 2:57take
- 2:57a
- 2:57look
- 2:57at
- 2:57this
- 2:58film.
- 2:58Or
- 2:58I'd
- 2:59stumbled
- 2:59across
- 2:59a
- 2:59film
- 3:00called
- 3:00Always
- 3:01Kicking
- 3:03and
- 3:03which
- 3:04is
- 3:04a
- 3:05pretty
- 3:05bad
- 3:06movie,
- 3:08you
- 3:08know,
- 3:081932
- 3:09movie
- 3:09and,
- 3:10you
- 3:10know,
- 3:11just
- 3:11kind
- 3:11of
- 3:11lots
- 3:11of
- 3:11stereotypical
- 3:12stuff
- 3:13going
- 3:13on.
- 3:13But
- 3:14anyways,
- 3:14at
- 3:14one
- 3:15point
- 3:15it
- 3:16had.
- 3:17It
- 3:17showed
- 3:18Jim
- 3:18Thorpe
- 3:19giving
- 3:20drop
- 3:20kicking
- 3:21demonstrations.
- 3:23I
- 3:23think
- 3:23he
- 3:23kicks
- 3:23two
- 3:24or
- 3:24three,
- 3:24you
- 3:24know,
- 3:24times
- 3:25during
- 3:25the
- 3:25movie.
- 3:27So
- 3:28he's
- 3:28like,
- 3:29goes
- 3:29to
- 3:29like
- 3:29a
- 3:29high
- 3:30school
- 3:30or
- 3:30a
- 3:30college
- 3:30team,
- 3:31if
- 3:31I
- 3:31remember
- 3:31correctly,
- 3:32like
- 3:32demoing.
- 3:33It's
- 3:33an
- 3:34older
- 3:34Jim
- 3:34Thorpe
- 3:34that's
- 3:35kicking.
- 3:35Yeah,
- 3:35yeah.
- 3:36So
- 3:36it's
- 3:361932,
- 3:37you
- 3:37know,
- 3:37so
- 3:38he's
- 3:38post
- 3:39even
- 3:39playing
- 3:40anything
- 3:40in
- 3:41the
- 3:41NFL.
- 3:43But
- 3:45yeah,
- 3:45so
- 3:45he,
- 3:45for
- 3:46whatever
- 3:46reason
- 3:46he's
- 3:47at
- 3:47this,
- 3:47at
- 3:48this
- 3:48college
- 3:49and
- 3:50it's
- 3:50kind
- 3:50of
- 3:50a
- 3:50dumb
- 3:51story,
- 3:51but
- 3:51anyways,
- 3:51it
- 3:52was
- 3:52just.
- 3:52The
- 3:52point
- 3:52is
- 3:53it
- 3:53was
- 3:53an
- 3:53opportunity
- 3:54to
- 3:54see
- 3:54Jim
- 3:55Thorpe
- 3:55drop
- 3:55kicking.
- 3:56Now
- 3:56I
- 3:57don't
- 3:57remember
- 3:57seeing
- 3:58any
- 3:59film
- 3:59of
- 3:59him
- 3:59during
- 4:00his
- 4:00true
- 4:00playing
- 4:01days.
- 4:02I
- 4:02don't
- 4:03remember
- 4:03seeing
- 4:03any
- 4:03film
- 4:03of,
- 4:04at
- 4:04all
- 4:04of
- 4:04him.
- 4:05But
- 4:05you
- 4:05know,
- 4:05maybe,
- 4:05maybe
- 4:06it's
- 4:06out
- 4:06there
- 4:06and
- 4:06I
- 4:06just
- 4:06haven't
- 4:07seen
- 4:07it.
- 4:09But
- 4:09for
- 4:10some
- 4:10reason
- 4:10then
- 4:10I
- 4:11was
- 4:11like,
- 4:11well,
- 4:11I
- 4:11wonder
- 4:11who
- 4:12the
- 4:12last
- 4:12Heisman
- 4:13Trophy
- 4:13winner
- 4:14was.
- 4:15Who.
- 4:15Or
- 4:15did
- 4:16any
- 4:16Heisman
- 4:17Trophy
- 4:17winners
- 4:19ever
- 4:20kick,
- 4:20ever
- 4:20drop
- 4:21kick?
- 4:21You
- 4:21know,
- 4:21because
- 4:22obviously
- 4:22there's
- 4:23the,
- 4:24you
- 4:25know,
- 4:25Doug
- 4:25Flutie
- 4:26doing
- 4:27it
- 4:27in
- 4:27the.
- 4:28As
- 4:28kind
- 4:28of
- 4:28a,
- 4:29it
- 4:29was
- 4:30kind
- 4:30of
- 4:30a
- 4:30circus
- 4:30event,
- 4:31you
- 4:31know,
- 4:31him
- 4:32doing
- 4:32it
- 4:33in
- 4:33an
- 4:33NFL
- 4:34game.
- 4:35But
- 4:36back
- 4:36to
- 4:37the
- 4:37real
- 4:37time,
- 4:38you
- 4:39know,
- 4:39Heisman
- 4:39didn't
- 4:40appear
- 4:40until
- 4:40the
- 4:4130,
- 4:41till
- 4:4135
- 4:42or
- 4:4236,
- 4:43whichever
- 4:43one
- 4:43it
- 4:44was.
- 4:45And
- 4:46so
- 4:46it
- 4:47was
- 4:47like,
- 4:47okay,
- 4:48the
- 4:48drop
- 4:49kick
- 4:49was
- 4:49definitely
- 4:50on
- 4:50the
- 4:51downfall
- 4:51by
- 4:51then.
- 4:53You
- 4:53know,
- 4:53the
- 4:53ball
- 4:54had
- 4:54changed
- 4:54and
- 4:55you
- 4:56know,
- 4:56just
- 4:56place
- 4:57kicking
- 4:57and
- 4:57you
- 4:57know,
- 4:58snapping
- 4:58was
- 4:58better.
- 4:58Everything
- 4:59about
- 4:59it,
- 4:59you
- 4:59know,
- 5:00it
- 5:00made
- 5:00more
- 5:01sense
- 5:01to,
- 5:01to
- 5:01place,
- 5:02you
- 5:02know,
- 5:02snap,
- 5:02replace
- 5:03kick
- 5:03rather
- 5:03than
- 5:04drop
- 5:04kick.
- 5:05So,
- 5:06so
- 5:06anyways,
- 5:07I
- 5:07went
- 5:07back
- 5:07and
- 5:07looked
- 5:09and
- 5:09it's
- 5:10one
- 5:10of
- 5:10those
- 5:10things
- 5:10where
- 5:11there
- 5:11isn't
- 5:11a
- 5:12really
- 5:12efficient
- 5:12way
- 5:13to
- 5:13research
- 5:13something
- 5:14like,
- 5:14like
- 5:14who
- 5:14was
- 5:14the
- 5:15last
- 5:17Heisman
- 5:18Trophy
- 5:18winner
- 5:18to
- 5:19drop
- 5:19kick.
- 5:19So
- 5:20you
- 5:20kind
- 5:20of
- 5:20have
- 5:20to
- 5:20go
- 5:21through
- 5:21all
- 5:21the,
- 5:22all
- 5:22the
- 5:22guys
- 5:23names
- 5:23I
- 5:23stopped
- 5:24in
- 5:24like
- 5:241950.
- 5:25I
- 5:25didn't
- 5:25look
- 5:25after
- 5:25that.
- 5:27But
- 5:27each
- 5:27one
- 5:28I
- 5:28have
- 5:28to
- 5:28like
- 5:29search
- 5:29for
- 5:29their
- 5:29name
- 5:30and
- 5:30drop
- 5:30kick
- 5:31and
- 5:31place
- 5:31kick.
- 5:31And
- 5:33so
- 5:33best
- 5:34as
- 5:34I
- 5:34can
- 5:34tell,
- 5:36there
- 5:37were
- 5:37a
- 5:37lot.
- 5:37You
- 5:37know,
- 5:38I
- 5:38mean,
- 5:38look,
- 5:38so
- 5:39like
- 5:39I
- 5:39researched
- 5:40the
- 5:40guys
- 5:41like
- 5:41starting
- 5:42with
- 5:42Jay
- 5:42Burwinger,
- 5:43who
- 5:43was
- 5:43not
- 5:43a
- 5:43kicker.
- 5:44So
- 5:44some
- 5:44of,
- 5:44some
- 5:45didn't
- 5:45kick
- 5:45at
- 5:45all.
- 5:46But
- 5:46you
- 5:47know,
- 5:47Davey
- 5:47o',
- 5:47Brien,
- 5:48place
- 5:48kick,
- 5:48Tom
- 5:49Harmon,
- 5:49place
- 5:49kick
- 5:49for
- 5:50Frank
- 5:50Sink,
- 5:50which
- 5:50place
- 5:51kick?
- 5:51Angelo
- 5:52Bertelli,
- 5:52Doc
- 5:53Blanchard,
- 5:53Doak
- 5:54Walker,
- 5:56Vic
- 5:56Janowitz.
- 5:58I
- 5:58mean
- 5:58all
- 5:59those
- 5:59guys
- 5:59place
- 5:59kicked,
- 6:01including,
- 6:01you
- 6:02know,
- 6:02in
- 6:02college
- 6:03games
- 6:03and
- 6:03NFL
- 6:04games
- 6:04and
- 6:04stuff
- 6:04like
- 6:05that.
- 6:07So.
- 6:07But
- 6:08as
- 6:08far
- 6:08as
- 6:08I
- 6:08could
- 6:09tell,
- 6:09none
- 6:09of
- 6:09those
- 6:09guys
- 6:10ever
- 6:10drop
- 6:10kick
- 6:11in
- 6:11a
- 6:11college
- 6:11or
- 6:12NFL
- 6:13game.
- 6:14But
- 6:14the,
- 6:15the
- 6:15two
- 6:15that
- 6:15I
- 6:16did
- 6:16find,
- 6:16one
- 6:16was
- 6:18Niles
- 6:18Kinnick.
- 6:19So
- 6:19Iowa's
- 6:20Niles
- 6:20Kinnick
- 6:21in
- 6:211939.
- 6:23I
- 6:24didn't
- 6:24find
- 6:24a
- 6:24record
- 6:25of
- 6:25him
- 6:25drop
- 6:26kicking
- 6:26A
- 6:26field
- 6:27goal.
- 6:27But
- 6:27he,
- 6:28he
- 6:28drop
- 6:29kicked
- 6:2911
- 6:29of
- 6:2917
- 6:30pats,
- 6:33so.
- 6:33Which
- 6:34is
- 6:34again
- 6:34one
- 6:35of
- 6:35those
- 6:35things
- 6:35like
- 6:35we
- 6:35think
- 6:36of
- 6:36the
- 6:36PAT
- 6:36is
- 6:37so
- 6:37automatic,
- 6:39but
- 6:40for
- 6:40them
- 6:41it
- 6:41was
- 6:41still,
- 6:41you
- 6:42know,
- 6:43kind
- 6:43of
- 6:44a
- 6:44chance.
- 6:44You
- 6:44thing,
- 6:44you
- 6:44know,
- 6:45you
- 6:45got
- 6:45a
- 6:45big
- 6:45program
- 6:45like
- 6:46Iowa,
- 6:46a
- 6:46guy
- 6:47who's
- 6:47a
- 6:47Heisman
- 6:47Trophy
- 6:48winner,
- 6:48though
- 6:48not
- 6:48so
- 6:48much
- 6:48for
- 6:49his
- 6:49drop
- 6:49kicking,
- 6:50but
- 6:51you
- 6:52know,
- 6:52it
- 6:53just
- 6:53tells
- 6:53you,
- 6:54you
- 6:54know,
- 6:56you
- 6:56know,
- 6:57we
- 6:57take
- 6:57it
- 6:57for
- 6:57granted
- 6:57that
- 6:58you're
- 6:58going
- 6:58to
- 6:58make
- 6:58it.
- 6:58Right.
- 6:59I
- 6:59mean,
- 7:00isn't
- 7:00it
- 7:00kind
- 7:01of
- 7:01funny
- 7:01and
- 7:01ironic
- 7:02that
- 7:02you
- 7:02know,
- 7:02back
- 7:03in
- 7:03that
- 7:03era,
- 7:04usually
- 7:05your
- 7:05best
- 7:05athlete
- 7:06on
- 7:06the
- 7:06team
- 7:06is
- 7:07your,
- 7:07your
- 7:07kicker.
- 7:08He's
- 7:08the
- 7:08one
- 7:08kicking
- 7:08for
- 7:09points
- 7:09now.
- 7:10Sort
- 7:10of
- 7:10look
- 7:10at
- 7:11it.
- 7:11They
- 7:11might
- 7:11be
- 7:12the
- 7:12worst
- 7:12athletes
- 7:12on
- 7:13the
- 7:13teams
- 7:13that
- 7:14doing
- 7:15the
- 7:15kicking.
- 7:15Yeah,
- 7:16yeah.
- 7:16That's
- 7:16actually
- 7:17kind
- 7:17of
- 7:17cha.
- 7:17There's.
- 7:18There's
- 7:18enough
- 7:18money
- 7:18in
- 7:19it
- 7:19now
- 7:19that
- 7:19some
- 7:19really
- 7:20fine
- 7:20athletes
- 7:20are,
- 7:22are
- 7:22kicking
- 7:22now,
- 7:23you
- 7:23know.
- 7:24But
- 7:24any.
- 7:24Yeah,
- 7:25but
- 7:25to
- 7:25your
- 7:25point
- 7:26for
- 7:26sure,
- 7:28you
- 7:28know,
- 7:29and
- 7:29a
- 7:29lot
- 7:29of
- 7:29that
- 7:29too.
- 7:29Even
- 7:30like,
- 7:30you
- 7:30know,
- 7:30before
- 7:30they
- 7:31had
- 7:31decent
- 7:31long
- 7:32snapping,
- 7:32you
- 7:33know,
- 7:33you,
- 7:34they
- 7:35do
- 7:35the
- 7:35tumble
- 7:35pass,
- 7:36you
- 7:36know,
- 7:37it
- 7:37was
- 7:37basically
- 7:38the
- 7:38fullback
- 7:39or
- 7:39earlier
- 7:40on
- 7:40they'd
- 7:41snap
- 7:41it
- 7:41to
- 7:41the
- 7:41quarterback
- 7:42and
- 7:42he'd
- 7:42pitch
- 7:42it
- 7:43back
- 7:43to
- 7:43the,
- 7:44to
- 7:44the
- 7:44fullback
- 7:45or
- 7:45a
- 7:45halfback,
- 7:46you
- 7:46know.
- 7:47Yeah.
- 7:47So
- 7:48that's
- 7:48who
- 7:49they
- 7:49didn't
- 7:49have.
- 7:50Typically
- 7:50teams
- 7:51didn't
- 7:51have
- 7:51a
- 7:51punter
- 7:53like
- 7:54even.
- 7:54A
- 7:54lot
- 7:54of
- 7:55times
- 7:55he
- 7:55wouldn't
- 7:55even
- 7:55take
- 7:55like
- 7:56an
- 7:56end
- 7:56out
- 7:56of
- 7:56his
- 7:57position.
- 7:57It
- 7:57was
- 7:58one
- 7:58of
- 7:58the
- 7:58backs
- 7:58all
- 7:58the
- 7:59time.
- 8:01So
- 8:01then.
- 8:01Yeah,
- 8:01so
- 8:01there's
- 8:02Niles
- 8:02Kinnick
- 8:02and
- 8:03then
- 8:03the
- 8:03other
- 8:03guy
- 8:03was
- 8:03at
- 8:04Minnesota,
- 8:04Bruce
- 8:05Smith,
- 8:06who
- 8:06won
- 8:06the
- 8:07Heisman
- 8:07in
- 8:0741.
- 8:09He
- 8:10drop
- 8:10kicked
- 8:11two
- 8:11pats
- 8:12against
- 8:13Washington
- 8:13in
- 8:14the
- 8:141940
- 8:14season.
- 8:15So
- 8:16he
- 8:16wasn't.
- 8:17I'm
- 8:17not
- 8:17sure
- 8:17why
- 8:17he
- 8:18did
- 8:18it
- 8:18in
- 8:18that
- 8:18particular
- 8:19game
- 8:20because
- 8:20he
- 8:20didn't.
- 8:20I
- 8:21don't
- 8:21think
- 8:21he
- 8:21normally
- 8:21was
- 8:22even
- 8:22their
- 8:23PAT
- 8:23guy.
- 8:24So
- 8:25maybe
- 8:25you
- 8:25know,
- 8:25injuries
- 8:26or
- 8:26something
- 8:26like
- 8:26that.
- 8:27So
- 8:27anyways,
- 8:27the
- 8:28fifth
- 8:28and
- 8:28seventh
- 8:30Heisman
- 8:30Trophy
- 8:30winners
- 8:31drop
- 8:31kicked
- 8:32in
- 8:32college
- 8:32games
- 8:34and
- 8:35as
- 8:35far
- 8:36as
- 8:36I
- 8:36can
- 8:36tell,
- 8:36that's
- 8:36it.
- 8:39Except
- 8:39for,
- 8:39for
- 8:40college.
- 8:40Just
- 8:40those
- 8:41two
- 8:41guys
- 8:41and
- 8:41then
- 8:42Doug
- 8:43Flutie
- 8:43and
- 8:43the,
- 8:43the
- 8:44pros.
- 8:45Yeah.
- 8:46So
- 8:48yeah,
- 8:48I
- 8:48mean,
- 8:49and
- 8:49you,
- 8:50you
- 8:50know,
- 8:50there's
- 8:51just
- 8:51a
- 8:51lot
- 8:51of
- 8:52obviously
- 8:53very
- 8:53talented
- 8:53athletes,
- 8:54you
- 8:54know,
- 8:55but
- 8:56they,
- 8:56most
- 8:56of
- 8:56them
- 8:57were
- 8:57place
- 8:57kicking.
- 8:57But
- 8:58by
- 8:58the
- 8:58time
- 8:58the
- 8:58Heisman
- 8:59are
- 8:59rolled
- 8:59around,
- 9:00you
- 9:01know,
- 9:01even
- 9:01those
- 9:02guys
- 9:03were
- 9:03place
- 9:03kicking
- 9:04rather
- 9:05than
- 9:05drop
- 9:05kicking.
- 9:06So
- 9:07it
- 9:07just
- 9:07kind
- 9:07of
- 9:07tells
- 9:07you
- 9:07how
- 9:07quick,
- 9:08you
- 9:08know,
- 9:08I
- 9:09mean
- 9:09the
- 9:09ball,
- 9:10you
- 9:10know,
- 9:10they
- 9:11redid
- 9:11the
- 9:11ball
- 9:11in
- 9:1130,
- 9:1229
- 9:13and
- 9:1434
- 9:15and
- 9:15then
- 9:15the
- 9:15Heisman
- 9:16shows
- 9:16up
- 9:16in
- 9:1635.
- 9:18So,
- 9:19you
- 9:19know,
- 9:19pretty
- 9:20quickly
- 9:21drop
- 9:21kicking
- 9:22just
- 9:23started.
- 9:23I
- 9:24mean,
- 9:24based
- 9:25on
- 9:25this
- 9:25evidence,
- 9:25it's
- 9:26not
- 9:26the
- 9:26greatest
- 9:26evidence
- 9:27in
- 9:27the
- 9:27world,
- 9:27but,
- 9:28you
- 9:28know,
- 9:28just
- 9:29kind
- 9:29of
- 9:29tells
- 9:29you
- 9:30it
- 9:30dropped
- 9:31off
- 9:31pretty
- 9:31quick.
- 9:31And
- 9:32most,
- 9:32most
- 9:32people
- 9:33are
- 9:33place
- 9:33kicking.
- 9:34So.
- 9:35Yeah,
- 9:35I
- 9:36mean,
- 9:36do
- 9:36you
- 9:36ever
- 9:36think
- 9:37that
- 9:37maybe.
- 9:38I
- 9:38know
- 9:39the
- 9:39ball's
- 9:39a
- 9:39different
- 9:39shape
- 9:40so
- 9:40it's
- 9:40going
- 9:40to
- 9:40be
- 9:41a
- 9:41lot
- 9:41harder
- 9:41to
- 9:41do.
- 9:41But
- 9:42you
- 9:42know,
- 9:42they
- 9:43were
- 9:43a
- 9:43few
- 9:43years
- 9:43ago
- 9:44they
- 9:44were
- 9:44looking
- 9:44to
- 9:45try
- 9:45to,
- 9:46you
- 9:46know,
- 9:46in
- 9:46the
- 9:46NFL
- 9:47anyway
- 9:47to
- 9:47make
- 9:47the
- 9:48extra
- 9:48point
- 9:49be
- 9:49more
- 9:49challenging.
- 9:50So
- 9:50they
- 9:50moved
- 9:50it
- 9:51back
- 9:51and
- 9:51they,
- 9:52you
- 9:52know,
- 9:52they
- 9:52played
- 9:52around
- 9:53with
- 9:53some
- 9:53of
- 9:53the
- 9:53rules
- 9:53on
- 9:54that
- 9:54a
- 9:54little
- 9:54bit.
- 9:54But,
- 9:55but
- 9:55do
- 9:55you
- 9:55ever
- 9:55think
- 9:55they
- 9:56would
- 9:56come
- 9:56back
- 9:56and
- 9:56say,
- 9:57hey,
- 9:57we'll
- 9:57give
- 9:57you,
- 9:58you
- 9:58know,
- 9:58a
- 9:58three
- 9:59point
- 9:59extra
- 9:59point
- 9:59if
- 10:00you
- 10:00drop
- 10:00kick
- 10:00it,
- 10:00you
- 10:01know,
- 10:01or
- 10:01something
- 10:01to,
- 10:02to
- 10:02challenge
- 10:02it,
- 10:02to
- 10:02spice
- 10:03things
- 10:03up?
- 10:03And
- 10:03I
- 10:03think
- 10:03that
- 10:04that'd
- 10:04be
- 10:04kind
- 10:04of,
- 10:05kind
- 10:05of
- 10:05neat
- 10:05if
- 10:05they
- 10:05did
- 10:06that.
- 10:06Yeah,
- 10:06you
- 10:07know,
- 10:07it's
- 10:07one
- 10:07of
- 10:07those
- 10:07things.
- 10:08It's
- 10:08like,
- 10:08you
- 10:08know,
- 10:08the,
- 10:11I
- 10:11think
- 10:11in
- 10:11general
- 10:12people
- 10:12wouldn't
- 10:13do
- 10:13it
- 10:13other
- 10:14than
- 10:14in
- 10:15situations
- 10:16where
- 10:17like
- 10:17we're
- 10:17down
- 10:18by
- 10:18nine,
- 10:19you
- 10:19know,
- 10:19and
- 10:20you
- 10:20know,
- 10:20so,
- 10:23you
- 10:23know,
- 10:24generally
- 10:25they're,
- 10:25you
- 10:25know,
- 10:25coaches
- 10:26are
- 10:26just
- 10:26going
- 10:26to
- 10:26play
- 10:26it
- 10:27much
- 10:27more
- 10:27conservatively,
- 10:28you
- 10:29know,
- 10:30just
- 10:30because
- 10:31now,
- 10:31you
- 10:32know,
- 10:32I
- 10:32don't
- 10:32remember,
- 10:33you
- 10:33know,
- 10:33maybe
- 10:33when
- 10:34I
- 10:34was
- 10:3412,
- 10:34I
- 10:34tried
- 10:34drop
- 10:35kicking
- 10:36a
- 10:36football,
- 10:37but
- 10:37I
- 10:37don't
- 10:37remember
- 10:38having
- 10:38done
- 10:38it
- 10:38probably
- 10:39since
- 10:39then.
- 10:40So
- 10:41I
- 10:41don't
- 10:41really
- 10:41have
- 10:42a
- 10:42great
- 10:42sense
- 10:42of
- 10:43how
- 10:43difficult
- 10:43it
- 10:44is,
- 10:44you
- 10:44know,
- 10:45but
- 10:45with
- 10:46today
- 10:47playing
- 10:47on
- 10:49artificial
- 10:49turf
- 10:50and
- 10:50then
- 10:51well
- 10:52maintained
- 10:53grass
- 10:54fields,.
- 10:55That's
- 10:55not
- 10:55too
- 10:56lumpy
- 10:56out
- 10:56there
- 10:56anymore.
- 10:57Yeah,
- 10:57yeah.
- 10:58Now,
- 10:58you
- 10:58know,
- 10:59in
- 10:59bad
- 10:59weather,
- 11:00you
- 11:00know,
- 11:00if
- 11:00it's
- 11:00snowy
- 11:01or
- 11:01rainy
- 11:01or
- 11:01muddy,
- 11:02you
- 11:02know,
- 11:02then
- 11:03that
- 11:03gets
- 11:03into
- 11:04a
- 11:04different
- 11:04deal,
- 11:05but
- 11:07otherwise
- 11:07it's
- 11:08going
- 11:08to
- 11:08bounce.
- 11:08True.
- 11:09It's
- 11:09just
- 11:09a
- 11:09matter
- 11:09of
- 11:09how,
- 11:10how,
- 11:11how
- 11:11much
- 11:11control
- 11:12can
- 11:12you
- 11:12have
- 11:13dropping
- 11:14it,
- 11:14you
- 11:14know,
- 11:15because
- 11:15you
- 11:15still
- 11:15got
- 11:15to
- 11:15drop
- 11:16it.
- 11:16It's
- 11:16got
- 11:16to
- 11:16hit
- 11:17the,
- 11:17you
- 11:17know,
- 11:17hit
- 11:17the
- 11:17ground
- 11:18and
- 11:18just,
- 11:19you
- 11:19know,.
- 11:19Barely
- 11:19come
- 11:20off
- 11:20and
- 11:20the
- 11:20timing
- 11:21of
- 11:21your
- 11:21foot
- 11:21hitting
- 11:22it
- 11:22and
- 11:22everything
- 11:22else.
- 11:23Maybe
- 11:24when
- 11:24we
- 11:24hang
- 11:24up
- 11:25here,
- 11:25I'll
- 11:25call
- 11:26the
- 11:26rock
- 11:26up
- 11:26and
- 11:27see
- 11:27if
- 11:27we
- 11:27can
- 11:27get
- 11:27the
- 11:27UFL
- 11:28to
- 11:28get
- 11:28that
- 11:28in
- 11:28or
- 11:28usually
- 11:29NFL
- 11:30and
- 11:31well,.
- 11:31They're
- 11:32the
- 11:32ones,
- 11:32they're
- 11:32gonna.
- 11:32It's
- 11:33like
- 11:33a
- 11:3360
- 11:33yard
- 11:34field
- 11:34goal
- 11:34is
- 11:34worth
- 11:35like
- 11:36four
- 11:36points
- 11:36or
- 11:36something
- 11:37like
- 11:37that.
- 11:37Right,
- 11:37Right.
- 11:38Yeah.
- 11:38They
- 11:38seem
- 11:38to
- 11:38be
- 11:39the
- 11:39most
- 11:39innovative
- 11:39lately
- 11:40about
- 11:41trying
- 11:41to.
- 11:41Yeah.
- 11:41I
- 11:41don't
- 11:41know
- 11:42if
- 11:42that's
- 11:42innovative
- 11:42or
- 11:44desperate.
- 11:45Yeah,
- 11:45it's
- 11:46probably.
- 11:46Probably
- 11:46a
- 11:46little
- 11:46bit.
- 11:48Well,
- 11:49because.
- 11:49And
- 11:50I
- 11:50think
- 11:50they
- 11:50happened
- 11:51a
- 11:51couple
- 11:51times
- 11:51when
- 11:51they
- 11:51first
- 11:52put
- 11:52that
- 11:52in
- 11:52out.
- 11:53I
- 11:53wrote
- 11:53it
- 11:53in
- 11:53a
- 11:53tidbit.
- 11:54It's
- 11:54like,
- 11:54okay,
- 11:55just
- 11:55wait
- 11:55until
- 11:56somebody
- 11:58deliberate,
- 11:59deliberately
- 12:00loses
- 12:00yardage
- 12:01to
- 12:01get
- 12:01past
- 12:0260.
- 12:03Right.
- 12:03And
- 12:04they
- 12:04did
- 12:04it.
- 12:05It
- 12:05ended
- 12:05up
- 12:05happening,
- 12:06I
- 12:06think,
- 12:06in
- 12:06the
- 12:06first
- 12:06or
- 12:07second
- 12:07week.
- 12:07The
- 12:08dynamic
- 12:08kickoff,
- 12:09it
- 12:09came
- 12:09from
- 12:10crazy
- 12:10ufl,
- 12:11and
- 12:11they
- 12:12put
- 12:12it
- 12:12in
- 12:12the
- 12:12NFL,
- 12:13and
- 12:13who
- 12:13knows,
- 12:13maybe
- 12:14college
- 12:14will.
- 12:14Pick
- 12:14it
- 12:15up
- 12:15someday,
- 12:15but
- 12:16let's
- 12:16hope
- 12:16not.
- 12:17Yeah,
- 12:17I.
- 12:18I
- 12:18kind
- 12:18of
- 12:18like
- 12:18it.
- 12:18It's
- 12:19kind
- 12:19of
- 12:19grown
- 12:19on
- 12:19me.
- 12:19I.
- 12:20I
- 12:20kind
- 12:20of
- 12:20enjoy
- 12:20it.
- 12:21It
- 12:21makes
- 12:21a
- 12:21kickoff
- 12:22in
- 12:22the
- 12:22NFL
- 12:23exciting
- 12:23again.
- 12:24It
- 12:24was
- 12:24getting
- 12:24pretty
- 12:24boring.
- 12:25Yeah,
- 12:26well,
- 12:28to
- 12:28each
- 12:29their
- 12:29own,
- 12:29I
- 12:29will
- 12:29say.
- 12:31All
- 12:32right.
- 12:32Well,
- 12:32Tim,
- 12:32you
- 12:33know,
- 12:33this
- 12:33is
- 12:33another
- 12:33one
- 12:34of
- 12:34those
- 12:34cases
- 12:34where,
- 12:35you
- 12:35know,
- 12:36Jim
- 12:37Thorpe
- 12:37and
- 12:37Heisman
- 12:38aren't
- 12:38together,
- 12:38but
- 12:39dropkicking
- 12:40is.
- 12:40And
- 12:40you
- 12:41did
- 12:41a
- 12:41lot
- 12:41of
- 12:41research
- 12:41and
- 12:42you
- 12:43found
- 12:43something
- 12:43interesting,
- 12:44an
- 12:44interesting
- 12:45story
- 12:45to
- 12:45talk
- 12:46about
- 12:46and
- 12:46to
- 12:46write
- 12:47about
- 12:47when
- 12:47you
- 12:47first
- 12:48wrote
- 12:48your
- 12:48tidbit.
- 12:48And
- 12:49you
- 12:49do
- 12:49this
- 12:49a
- 12:49lot
- 12:49in
- 12:50your
- 12:50tidbits,
- 12:50so
- 12:50maybe
- 12:50you
- 12:51could
- 12:51share
- 12:51with
- 12:51people
- 12:52where
- 12:52they
- 12:52could
- 12:52pick
- 12:52up
- 12:53on
- 12:53some
- 12:53of
- 12:53your
- 12:53work.
- 12:54Yep.
- 12:55Best
- 12:55thing
- 12:55is
- 12:55just
- 12:55go
- 12:56to
- 12:56footballarchaeology.com
- 12:58it's
- 12:58a
- 12:58substack
- 12:58site,
- 12:59so
- 13:00you
- 13:01can
- 13:01subscribe,
- 13:01you
- 13:01can
- 13:02follow.
- 13:03If
- 13:03you
- 13:03subscribe,
- 13:04you
- 13:04get
- 13:04an
- 13:04email
- 13:05every
- 13:05time
- 13:05that
- 13:05I
- 13:05publish
- 13:06something
- 13:06new,
- 13:07which
- 13:07hopefully
- 13:07will
- 13:08be
- 13:08tonight,
- 13:09but,
- 13:10yeah,
- 13:11otherwise.
- 13:11Yeah,
- 13:12bookmark
- 13:12it,
- 13:12you
- 13:13know,
- 13:13search
- 13:13for
- 13:13it,
- 13:13whatever,
- 13:14whenever
- 13:14you
- 13:14get
- 13:15the.
- 13:15Get
- 13:15a
- 13:16hankering
- 13:17for
- 13:17old
- 13:17football
- 13:17stuff.
- 13:19All
- 13:19right,
- 13:19well,
- 13:19Tim,
- 13:20we
- 13:20always
- 13:20have
- 13:20a
- 13:20hankering
- 13:21for
- 13:21old
- 13:21football
- 13:21stuff,
- 13:22so
- 13:22we
- 13:22enjoy
- 13:22you
- 13:22coming
- 13:23here
- 13:23every
- 13:23Tuesday
- 13:24and
- 13:24filling
- 13:24us
- 13:25in
- 13:25on
- 13:25some
- 13:25of
- 13:25what
- 13:25you
- 13:26got
- 13:26going
- 13:26on.
- 13:26And
- 13:27love
- 13:27to
- 13:27talk
- 13:27to
- 13:27you
- 13:27again
- 13:28next
- 13:28Tuesday.
- 13:29Love
- 13:29to
- 13:30be
- 13:30back.
- 13:30We'll
- 13:30see
- 13:30you
- 13:30soon.