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Offseason moves a must for Buffalo to repeat as one of East's Best - Sabres Semantics: Season Finale · The Armchair GM's Sports Network

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Speaker 2: and Austin Broad of Leap Prospects here with you for
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Speaker 2: our season finale episode. Gonna just quickly overview the upcoming
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Speaker 2: off season for the Sabers. Some extensions that they have
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Speaker 2: to do obviously with the restricted free agents pending UFAs
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Speaker 2: as well Alex tuckbowem Byram. Do they sign those two
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Speaker 2: players to long term contract extensions, Possible early trade targets,
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Speaker 2: early free agent targets, the drafts obviously coming up as well,
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Speaker 2: so we'll get into all the ins and outs of
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Speaker 2: what to expect here for the Sabers off season as well.
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Speaker 2: So Austin, with that said, I know it's been a
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Speaker 2: what a week and a half now since the Sabers
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Speaker 2: obviously had the loss in Game seven against Montreal and overtime.
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Speaker 2: We did a really small postgame show after that. It
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Speaker 2: was really I don't even remember what I said. It
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Speaker 2: was all a blur at that point, but you know,
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Speaker 2: seeing Carolina Montreal duke it out right now, Caroline has
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Speaker 2: got a pretty hefty lead on the Canadians right now,
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Speaker 2: and jack Icle's going to the Stanley Cup Finals on
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Speaker 2: the West side. So it felt like it was almost
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Speaker 2: you know, destiny for the Sabers to maybe be in
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Speaker 2: the in that scenario and and you know exile some
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Speaker 2: demons with the Hurricanes and also the Saber or also
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Speaker 2: jack Eiicel. But it didn't play out that way, and
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Speaker 2: here we are talking about the off season here, but
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Speaker 2: with a lot of optimism obviously.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean first not first offseason podcast or first
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Speaker 4: off season. That's an interesting one to look forward to.
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Speaker 4: I think every off season has been interesting because we
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Speaker 4: kind of were expecting stuff, but this one truly actually
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Speaker 4: feels like it should be interesting one because there's basically
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Speaker 4: no free agents, Like the free agency class not good
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Speaker 4: this year, which is good news if you're Alex Tux
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Speaker 4: agent potentially, so it seems like there's just league wide
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Speaker 4: gonna be a ton of potential trades and things like that,
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Speaker 4: because otherwise I don't know how teams are gonna brought
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Speaker 4: a lot out there, and that's bodes well for a
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Speaker 4: team like the Savers, who have a GM with history
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Speaker 4: for making big swings. Whether every big swing has worked
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Speaker 4: out for Yarmo in the past is another story, but
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Speaker 4: we know he likes to be aggressive, so it's kind
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Speaker 4: of a good spot to be, and we know he
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Speaker 4: was trying to be aggressive at the trade deadline. Not
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Speaker 4: every move he wanted to do worked out, whether it
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Speaker 4: be the Pareco thing or who knows how true the
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Speaker 4: Robert Thomas like close that actually ended up be coming.
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Speaker 4: But we know Yarma has been aggressive in the past
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Speaker 4: and his short term as the Savers, and I expect
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Speaker 4: that to be the case going into this offseason.
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Speaker 2: So before we get into the meat and potatoes of that,
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Speaker 2: we've got a few housekeeping things to go over here
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Speaker 2: our last episode. First off, Consta Helenus playing well for
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Speaker 2: Finland at the Men's World scored his first goal of
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Speaker 2: the tournament today and a nice one timer on a
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Speaker 2: pass from Sasha Barkov, and obviously a great opportunity for
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Speaker 2: Consta Helenus getting an opportunity to play with an all
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Speaker 2: world centerman in Sasha Barkov, and just experiencing a men's
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Speaker 2: tournament like that, going over after the Saber season ended.
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Speaker 2: You know, still a twenty year old player, and seems
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Speaker 2: like he's got a lot of confidence, and even in
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Speaker 2: his postgame interview as well, just talked about how excited
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Speaker 2: he was to be over there and playing with his
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Speaker 2: fellow countryman in a somewhat of a big tournament. I
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Speaker 2: know the world is sort of you know, watered down
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Speaker 2: with the talent, but still some very good players that
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Speaker 2: he's playing against there, and obviously a great, great opportunity
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Speaker 2: for him.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think people need to remember that for
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Speaker 4: not necessarily for Canada and US. So the World's a
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Speaker 4: big deal, but the World Championships are still a big
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Speaker 4: deal to these guys. For the European countries, whether it's Finland, Sweden,
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Speaker 4: check you, you know, all those guys like Norway, Switzerland,
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Speaker 4: things like that, It is a big deal to these guys.
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Speaker 4: So not necessarily surprised that Helenus went over there, even
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Speaker 4: less surprised that he kind of picked up right where
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Speaker 4: he left off, just because he is a young kid
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Speaker 4: with tons of legs underneath him. He does not tire
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Speaker 4: out easily, especially at that age, and he's just this
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Speaker 4: all around great hockey player like we saw. We saw
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Speaker 4: that from a you know, in small glimpses in Buffalo
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Speaker 4: and droves in Rochester this year. So not surprising that
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Speaker 4: he's playing well. And yeah, I mean playing on the
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Speaker 4: wing with a guy like Barkov is definitely going to
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Speaker 4: be very, very, very fun for a guy like Helenos,
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Speaker 4: But he kind of just seamlessly fitted on that line
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Speaker 4: that he scored, and you know, we saw its exact
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Speaker 4: goal that he scored twice in the playoffs, for the Sabers,
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Speaker 4: you know, two on one one timer, but the assist
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Speaker 4: he had the other day to Parkov where he just
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Speaker 4: delivered a pass from the top of the zone to
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Speaker 4: the to the slot. Like he's he's just such a
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Speaker 4: good hockey player, so not surprising at all that he
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Speaker 4: is picking off And yeah, playing with a guy like
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Speaker 4: Barkov is gonna make it even easier for a kid
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Speaker 4: as good as Helen News.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell you just being a Sponge and
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Speaker 2: playing with a lot of confidence and sort of building
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Speaker 2: off of you know, those three games that he played
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Speaker 2: for the Sabers in the playoffs as well, so the
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Speaker 2: Sabers Prize, the first rounder twenty year old finn. I
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Speaker 2: think he's in good hands and obviously gives Sabers fans
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Speaker 2: a lot to look forward to going forward with a
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Speaker 2: guy like that, hopefully as a full time Saber next season.
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Speaker 2: The other piece of housekeeping news is Jake Richards signed
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Speaker 2: his entry level contract for the Buffalo Sabers Austin. What
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Speaker 2: can you tell us about him and what do you
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Speaker 2: think his impact could possibly be on the Sabers roster
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Speaker 2: down the road.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a bit of a surprise. I believe
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Speaker 4: it was a couple. Not long after the tournament had ended,
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Speaker 4: he kind of announced who was going back to Yukon,
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Speaker 4: or maybe didn't formally announce, but everything that we everything
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Speaker 4: that was reported, everything that was out there, was that
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Speaker 4: he was going back to Yukon for another year, which
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Speaker 4: honestly would have made some sense. Last year he was unreal.
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Speaker 4: This year, his numbers dropped a little bit, but he's
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Speaker 4: still a very talented player. So you're gonna get somebody
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Speaker 4: here that is just going to add to the four
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Speaker 4: depth that the Savers have. He's not an elite player
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Speaker 4: by any means, but he's definitely someone who can be
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Speaker 4: a bottom six guy at the NHL level and should
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Speaker 4: be a nice piece for Rochester if that's likely where
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Speaker 4: he's going to end up, because we're now at a
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Speaker 4: point where the Sabers these guys don't make the roster immediately,
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Speaker 4: so nice forward depth of the Sabers area that they're
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Speaker 4: not lacking. But getting Richard is a nice pleasant surprise
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Speaker 4: because I did not think that was going to happen
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Speaker 4: this year.
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Speaker 2: So you think he's more so you know, Rochester and
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Speaker 2: then potential Sabers depth call up if needed.
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Speaker 4: And then I mean future. Yeah, I mean there's just
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Speaker 4: nothing against this kid. There's just no no way he
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Speaker 4: makes the Sabers. We're already talking because we'll get into
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Speaker 4: later on the podcast. Like they have if they don't
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Speaker 4: resign anybody except for their pending RFAs on forward, they
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Speaker 4: have thirteen forwards on the roster. So for for.
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Speaker 2: A guy that follows the collegiate hockey like yourself, like,
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Speaker 2: what what is the play style that he kind kind
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Speaker 2: of brings and what you know, what do you think
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Speaker 2: his strengths are for Sabers fans, I haven't seen him play.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a really smart hockey player. He lives around
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Speaker 4: the net. Like I said, his ten goals and seventeen
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Speaker 4: assists this year or were a really big step down
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Speaker 4: compared to the year that he had last year. But
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Speaker 4: even I think, yeah, it was it was the game
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Speaker 4: that they lost to Michigan State. They had a chance
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Speaker 4: with like under I don't remember the exact time, but
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Speaker 4: under twenty seconds left to tie the game up. He
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Speaker 4: was at the front of the night and his teammate
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Speaker 4: delivered a beautiful pass to the thing and he had
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Speaker 4: like three cracks at the can. But augustly, he just
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Speaker 4: stopped him all three times. So he's a player that
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Speaker 4: lives around the high danger area, smart player, not overly flashy.
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Speaker 4: That's why I said he probably projects as a bottom
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Speaker 4: six guy if he makes the NHL because he plays
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Speaker 4: that hard checking, smart, kind of dog on a bone
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Speaker 4: style that we're starting to become accustomed to with some
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Speaker 4: of these guys at the Sabers have added to their
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Speaker 4: organization and called up whether it's Hellnius the way Benson's
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Speaker 4: kind of evolved, the way Oaceland plays. But he's bigger
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Speaker 4: than all three of those guys well, and again not
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Speaker 4: as good as those guys. I don't need anyone trying
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Speaker 4: to take that out of context. Just play style alone.
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Speaker 4: He's a very smart, talented player who lives around that
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Speaker 4: in place with his brain and misibility to for check.
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Speaker 2: And also not going to say that he's going to
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Speaker 2: live up to the same expectations as another former Yukon
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Speaker 2: grad in Tage Thompson. But I guess they can talk
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Speaker 2: about their alma mater a little bit if he does
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Speaker 2: get up to play some NHL games with the Sabers.
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Speaker 2: So with that housekeeping out of the way, Austin, let's
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Speaker 2: get to sort of the main part of today's episode,
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Speaker 2: and we might as well started off with with the
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Speaker 2: fan poll and make sure to give us a follow
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Speaker 2: over twenty five years. As I'm looking for the poll here,
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Speaker 2: as I'm drawing a blank here on there, it is,
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Speaker 2: thank you, good job, Brandon, good start to the show.
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Speaker 2: All right, So what is the Saber's biggest area of
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Speaker 2: need going into the offseason? True number one goalie, number
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Speaker 2: one center, tage to the wing in quotations or top
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Speaker 2: line winger. Top line winger won this pool at sixty
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Speaker 2: six point seven percent, Number one center thirty three point
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Speaker 2: three percent true number one goalie. That would have been
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Speaker 2: my vote, but I don't vote for the polls, so
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Speaker 2: I try to keep it as or as unbiased as possible.
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Speaker 2: So Austin, I know you know you were pretty critical
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Speaker 2: of Lucan and not being able to make that final
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Speaker 2: save in overtime after you know Dobich basically one month
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Speaker 2: thhar all that game, So I'm going to assume you're
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Speaker 2: in the goalie hunt on this one.
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Speaker 4: Uh No, actually not not even remotely. I think I've
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Speaker 4: calmed down a little bit since that night. I still
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Speaker 4: maintain everything that I said. Lucanan needed to make that
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Speaker 4: save in overtime and has shown that especially you know
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Speaker 4: at times he is too inconsistent. But then you also
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Speaker 4: just look at the way that goal tending has been
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Speaker 4: in the league over the last we'll say ten years.
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Speaker 4: There's like four goalies that truly make a difference, and
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Speaker 4: one of them is now old and like, nothing against Bobrowski,
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Speaker 4: but he was one of the guys over the last
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Speaker 4: ten year Street like, yeah, that guy makes a difference.
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Speaker 4: He's aging out, he'll get another tract, but he's near
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Speaker 4: the end of his career. You're not getting Vasilewski from
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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. Hell, book, that's been a popular thing. I
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Speaker 4: just have no appetite to probably pay what it costs
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Speaker 4: to get him. And there's really not There's Sturkins, the
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Speaker 4: Sorocans of the world. Like, there's there's five goalies that
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Speaker 4: truly truly make a difference. On a nightly basis. So
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Speaker 4: unless you get one of them who is a legitimate
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Speaker 4: difference maker in net, I just can't. I can't get
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Speaker 4: into the I think that's the number one need, just
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Speaker 4: because I just don't think it's possible to get that.
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Speaker 4: The one thing I will say in defensive Lucanan, I
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Speaker 4: have been very critical of him and I will continue
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Speaker 4: to be very critical of him. He's literally mid to
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Speaker 4: late twenties, usually when a goalie starts hitting his prime,
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Speaker 4: so like he still has a chance to become a
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Speaker 4: true number one goalie. Did the track records not there?
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Speaker 4: But goalies are weird and they don't hit their prime
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Speaker 4: till very very late in their in their twenties, and
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Speaker 4: that's kind of where we're at now with Lucanan. So
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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to rush to try and
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Speaker 4: get a true number one because one, I just don't
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Speaker 4: see it happening with what it would cost to get
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Speaker 4: that guy and how many are available. And two, as
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Speaker 4: much as I wanted to rag on Lucan, in him
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Speaker 4: and Lion had the third best say percentage in the
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Speaker 4: NHL from December on, like they were a big reason
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Speaker 4: why the Sabers got to where they got regular season wise.
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Speaker 4: Did it let them down a little bit in the playoffs, Sure,
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Speaker 4: but I'm willing to give him a little bit of
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Speaker 4: grace more than I thought I would be. When we
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Speaker 4: had the podcast.
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Speaker 3: At the end of Game seven, you put some in
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Speaker 3: that as well.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, whether it's Ellis or Levi again, as
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Speaker 4: we later on the podcast will discuss it. It sounds like
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Speaker 4: they're going to do three goalies again, and you know,
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Speaker 4: whether it's Elis or Levi along with Lyon and Luca
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Speaker 4: and in it it feels like you have a solid
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Speaker 4: tandem that worked last year and goalies are voodoo, so
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Speaker 4: it could blow up in your face next year, but
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Speaker 4: you have to kind of have some confidence there. I
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Speaker 4: honestly thought the number one need, whether not necessarily number
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Speaker 4: one winger or number one center, But just like even
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Speaker 4: if Tuck somehow stays, I still think you should try
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Speaker 4: to upgrade it and add another true like proven top
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Speaker 4: six four. I think, like whether it's the center or
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Speaker 4: the winger, I don't really care what position. To me,
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Speaker 4: that's the number one need because one that's more realistic.
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Speaker 4: There's a lot more than available, and it's just you're
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Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to. I just don't see the
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Speaker 4: value in spending on what I think again, not that
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Speaker 4: this is what it would take, but like, once the
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Speaker 4: Jeff Merrick quote got out there of oh could they
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Speaker 4: do an Owen power for Connor Helbuck Swapa, I was like,
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Speaker 4: I think I'm out on trying to get a true
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Speaker 4: number one goalie because if teams are good, not that
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Speaker 4: Winnipeg's asking for Owen power, but if things are gonna
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Speaker 4: get silly, like, there's just no reason to even try
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Speaker 4: that when there's eighteen goalies starting goalies in the NHL
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Speaker 4: that are all luke and in level and you have
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Speaker 4: one so you can run it back.
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Speaker 2: I also saw some horrible mock trades from Leaf fans,
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Speaker 2: which is not surprising whatsoever. They had put one out
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Speaker 2: there of Bowel and Byrom for Brandon Carlo a second
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Speaker 2: and a third. I just I just shook my head
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Speaker 2: and just like just muted that account because it was
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Speaker 2: one of the worst mock trades I've ever seen in
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Speaker 2: my life.
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Speaker 4: But oh yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 3: That's to be expected from Lee fans. And again, if
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Speaker 3: there's anyone listening that's hockey, that's.
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Speaker 4: Hockey fans in general man, even like the trade thing
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Speaker 4: is impossible because when you have everyone overvalues their stuff
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Speaker 4: and to everyone thinks that you can throw together five
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Speaker 4: bad pieces too. It's just it's the nature being a
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Speaker 4: sports fan. But yeah, mock trades are hilarious. That But
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Speaker 4: but that byronmun was Yeah, that was that was that
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Speaker 4: was bad.
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Speaker 2: That was top for I have five like worst I've
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Speaker 2: ever seen in my life, and that's saying a lot.
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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of bad trades on on Twitter.
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Speaker 2: But I'm sort of in the boat where if you
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Speaker 2: can move Tage to the wing, that number one center
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Speaker 2: entices me. Like we know, the Robert Thomas option is
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Speaker 2: potentially still out there again, whether the return is going
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Speaker 2: to be massive for Saint Louis, I would honestly want
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Speaker 2: to see, if you know, if they would want Helenius
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Speaker 2: and UH and Merca in that trade, and in which
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Speaker 2: case I'd probably try to stay away from it. But
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Speaker 2: especially if it's gonna be like four or five big
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Speaker 2: pieces for Robert Thomas. So I think he could add
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Speaker 2: a lot to the center rice position, But if that's
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Speaker 2: sort of going to be the ask, I'd kind of
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Speaker 2: be out on that. I also think you know, the
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Speaker 2: future of Josh Norris, which will sort of get into
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Speaker 2: as well, is potentially somebody that could, you know, be moved.
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Speaker 3: His name was sort of floated around there.
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Speaker 2: You are most that he wanted to keep the players
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Speaker 2: together and things like that, and the team with how
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Speaker 2: good they played. So I don't know. I'm sort of
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Speaker 2: like on the fence about any of these options. I
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Speaker 2: think if they go and improve any of them, I
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Speaker 2: think it's obviously a step in the right direction.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean top line winger. I understand why that
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Speaker 4: won the poll, and I think I'm probably leaning a
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Speaker 4: little bit more towards that than I am center, mostly
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Speaker 4: just because I think you need one right now as
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Speaker 4: it is, and if Tuck does walk, you potentially would
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Speaker 4: need to and like whether he looks more comfortable on
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Speaker 4: the wing or center or whatever, you do have the
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Speaker 4: cheat code of when needed, TAJB my number one center.
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Speaker 4: Is he a perfect centerman, No, but he can be
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Speaker 4: a number one center the traditional sense, not in the
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Speaker 4: traditional sense, but in the offensive sense. He can be
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Speaker 4: a once offensive one see and then depending on what
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Speaker 4: happens with the rest of the depth, depending on how
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Speaker 4: Yarmo and Lindy view Oceland, Hellenius Koolach, which we kind
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Speaker 4: of got a hint that they view they view Hellnius
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Speaker 4: and Oceland as centers because that's where they were playing
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Speaker 4: they were. Oceland was third line center, second line center,
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Speaker 4: you know, and then Hellennius slotted right into that same spot,
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Speaker 4: so they appear to be viewed as center. So center
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Speaker 4: depth is a bit of a I honestly strength, but
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Speaker 4: it's a bit of a luxury right now for the Sabers,
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Speaker 4: just because if you look at if you viewed Tage
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Speaker 4: as a center, you of Cage, Noris, McLeod, Hellnius, Oceland, Carrick,
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Speaker 4: and you could throw Kozak in on there. Crabs played
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Speaker 4: center at times, so like they have some some depth
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Speaker 4: in terms of centers. So I do think number one center.
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Speaker 4: While again if they acquire Robert Thomas, I will be thrilled.
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Speaker 4: He is a true blue number one center. But I
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Speaker 4: do think pigeonhole yourself into a number one center being
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Speaker 4: your number one need would not be smart, just because
17:04
Speaker 4: you can add wingers on the cheaper and because you
17:08
Speaker 4: have center depth. So like no offense if you trade
17:11
Speaker 4: a Noris or McLeod, you have a guy ready to
17:13
Speaker 4: step up immediately internally, like you don't need to go
17:16
Speaker 4: outside to add to the center position. So that's kind
17:18
Speaker 4: of why I would lean winger. But I stand up
17:20
Speaker 4: with a top six center or a top six winger, like,
17:23
Speaker 4: it's not gonna matter. They have the flexibility. Like we
17:24
Speaker 4: just talked about Heillennius at the World Eily he's played
17:26
Speaker 4: on the wing.
17:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Aucelin too, and you know those guys are
17:32
Speaker 2: potentially coming up from Rochester as well, Like what would
17:35
Speaker 2: be your I guess in that Robert Thomas discussion, since
17:38
Speaker 2: we're on that, we're on that topic if he was
17:40
Speaker 2: to become a Buffalo saber and Saint Louis was asking
17:42
Speaker 2: the world like where where would be your cutoff?
17:44
Speaker 3: Of being like, no, this is too much.
17:49
Speaker 4: If for whatever reason they were asking for both Oaceland
17:53
Speaker 4: and Helenius, I do maintain I said it earlier. I
17:57
Speaker 4: wouldn't want it. I don't want to trade either one.
17:59
Speaker 4: But if being completely honest and realistic with ourselves, if
18:02
Speaker 4: you want a true blue difference maker added to this team,
18:04
Speaker 4: it's probably going to cost one of them. Coole. Each
18:09
Speaker 4: has some value, but with the health concerns, he's probably
18:12
Speaker 4: not nearly as valuable as he could be. Love Norris,
18:17
Speaker 4: we talked to potentially moving him. Well, that's a guy
18:19
Speaker 4: who carries term and an eight million dollar CAPID, who
18:21
Speaker 4: can play forty to fifty games a year. I don't
18:24
Speaker 4: know what that value is going to be. So like
18:26
Speaker 4: they're going to want the higher end pieces from Buffalo.
18:29
Speaker 4: Now again, like I don't want to trade either one.
18:34
Speaker 4: But if trading one of them nets me a Robert
18:39
Speaker 4: Thomas or insert name here, and it's a true upgrade,
18:45
Speaker 4: you have to consider it. But I think it'd be
18:47
Speaker 4: too much if it ends up being like, yeah, both
18:50
Speaker 4: of those guys are included. Because if you look at
18:52
Speaker 4: Saint Louis, if we're just again, let's use Robert Thomas
18:55
Speaker 4: because there was rumors and we know we have some
18:58
Speaker 4: insight as to what Saint Louis wants because SAT was
19:00
Speaker 4: to try to acquire the first round pick, and well
19:01
Speaker 4: they did acquire the first round pick and MRCA for
19:03
Speaker 4: Preako Perco next day. It's like, we know they have
19:05
Speaker 4: interests in the first round pick. We know they him
19:07
Speaker 4: interest in a guy like we're DEEMRCA. I would imagine
19:11
Speaker 4: those two pieces are involved, and then I would imagine
19:13
Speaker 4: it's probably an NHL piece and maybe I don't know
19:19
Speaker 4: like that it's going to cost a lot. But if
19:22
Speaker 4: we're talking Llanius Merca first round pick and.
19:28
Speaker 3: Norris ap dump, yeah.
19:30
Speaker 4: Probably too much for my liking. But at the same time,
19:34
Speaker 4: you would be acquiring a guy who can put up
19:37
Speaker 4: sixty assists, which would pair very nicely with a guy
19:40
Speaker 4: like tahe Comson. But I don't know, it'll it'll be interesting.
19:45
Speaker 4: I am of the the ILK where I don't need
19:46
Speaker 4: a difference maker. I just want a top six piece
19:48
Speaker 4: of you. I can go a tier below a Robert Thomas.
19:52
Speaker 4: I trying. I don't really like getting into names, but
19:55
Speaker 4: like a guy with a pending free agent and out
19:58
Speaker 4: connection to Lindy Rouff, Like, I don't think future costs
20:00
Speaker 4: as much as Thomas one because depending ufa status and offensively,
20:06
Speaker 4: he's just not He doesn't have the potential that Thomas
20:08
Speaker 4: has and he's a bit older. So like, is there
20:10
Speaker 4: a guy a tier below Thomas that will not cost
20:12
Speaker 4: you that much, that is a proven top six That's
20:15
Speaker 4: kind of what I'm looking for from from Yarmo if
20:18
Speaker 4: he goes big game hunting that it's also fun too,
20:20
Speaker 4: because that's just it's fun.
20:22
Speaker 3: And you mentioned the free agent market. I've got it
20:24
Speaker 3: up on the video ars.
20:26
Speaker 2: It's not not necessarily easiest on the eyes, like Darren
20:30
Speaker 2: Radish to Alex Tuck's number two free agent. We know
20:32
Speaker 2: Alex Ovechi is going to resign in Washington, so I
20:34
Speaker 2: mean that's is what it is there. Like if you're
20:36
Speaker 2: looking at you know, Claude Dreux at thirty eight years old,
20:39
Speaker 2: Like I really don't want any part of that either.
20:41
Speaker 3: Like I'm going down the list.
20:42
Speaker 2: Cole Paitar is retiring, like you know, Boone Jenner, you know,
20:46
Speaker 2: depending on the ask, maybe, but you know, Jack Roslovick.
20:50
Speaker 2: I'm just the list is not good, as you mentioned
20:52
Speaker 2: off the top, like some of these guys are going
20:54
Speaker 2: to get massively overpaid for what their production is going
20:57
Speaker 2: to be. And I don't see anybody in this list
20:59
Speaker 2: I think is going to be a potential difference maker
21:02
Speaker 2: for Buffalo on the forward group to be like, hey,
21:05
Speaker 2: if they bring this guy in, he's going to be
21:06
Speaker 2: a top line or even a top six forward unless
21:09
Speaker 2: they bring Alex Tuck back here.
21:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I said earlier like I'm even from
21:13
Speaker 4: just a league wide standpoint, I'm very excited about the
21:17
Speaker 4: offseason because trades are going to be very much a
21:21
Speaker 4: part of this. The one free agent and again I
21:25
Speaker 4: don't even want to talk about it, just because the
21:27
Speaker 4: contracts are going to be silly. But like I could,
21:28
Speaker 4: you could talk me into Bobby McMahon or Anthony Mantha.
21:33
Speaker 4: But I also know what happens the second free agency opens,
21:36
Speaker 4: those contracts get out of hand. So while I'm intrigued
21:39
Speaker 4: by those players, I don't want to know what that
21:41
Speaker 4: contract is going to look like on July first, because
21:43
Speaker 4: it's probably gonna be bad.
21:44
Speaker 2: And then at that point you might as well just
21:46
Speaker 2: resign Tuk for whatever he was going to ask at
21:48
Speaker 2: that point, I mean, I don't want to give any.
21:50
Speaker 4: Still I still don't. I still don't know. We'll get
21:52
Speaker 4: into it when we talk about the tough Byron or
21:55
Speaker 4: the Benson thing. I just I want no part of
21:58
Speaker 4: paying Tuck on an eight year contract. I just don't
22:01
Speaker 4: nothing against the player. If, like if Tuck has resigned,
22:03
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be mad at all. I'm gonna
22:04
Speaker 4: be very happy. I just I think signing him to
22:07
Speaker 4: an eight year deal with a massive cap hit severely
22:09
Speaker 4: limits you to what you can do this offseason. And
22:12
Speaker 4: I know the cap opens up for the Sabers next offseason,
22:16
Speaker 4: but next offseason, again, you're gonna have some decisions that
22:19
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to make. So we'll see. It's it's
22:23
Speaker 4: gotta be enticing for Tuck to just kind of look
22:27
Speaker 4: at the free agent market and know you're the guy.
22:30
Speaker 4: But how much is that worth to you? Like on
22:33
Speaker 4: a seven year, seventy million, seventy seven million, like eleven
22:37
Speaker 4: million dollar av that's seventy seven million dollars. I mean
22:41
Speaker 4: the Sabers offered him eight by nine and a half,
22:43
Speaker 4: I think that seventy four mil. Like this, he is
22:45
Speaker 4: the three million dollars over over the term of the
22:48
Speaker 4: contract worth it to him to leave? I don't know.
22:50
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be interesting.
22:53
Speaker 2: So before we get to the break, let's talk touch
22:55
Speaker 2: on just quickly the within the Sabers inner roster.
22:58
Speaker 3: Here the pending r face penning.
23:00
Speaker 2: UFAs estimated twelve point nine million of cap space for
23:04
Speaker 2: the Sabers, which is twenty fifth in the National Hockey League.
23:07
Speaker 2: We talked with joe Yurden about this on the last
23:09
Speaker 2: episode Austin, when we just quickly touched on the exit
23:13
Speaker 2: interviews and things like that, Zach Benson, Peyton Krais, Michael
23:16
Speaker 2: kessel Ring, depending RFAs, depending UFAs, Alex Tuck as everybody knows,
23:20
Speaker 2: Beck Mallenstein, Tanner, Pearson, Josh Dunn, Luke Schen, Logan Stanley.
23:24
Speaker 2: Joe was in the camp that Logan Stanley's probably going
23:26
Speaker 2: to be getting some offers on the open market, So
23:29
Speaker 2: most likely, you know, he might not be back in Buffalo,
23:32
Speaker 2: depending on that term and that price, but obviously expect
23:36
Speaker 2: Benson and Crebs they'd be back. And even I brought
23:38
Speaker 2: up the idea of signing kessel Ring to you know,
23:41
Speaker 2: a two year bridge or something at a movable contract
23:43
Speaker 2: in case, you know, just to kind of cover your
23:45
Speaker 2: bases there, avoid any offer sheets and then sort of
23:48
Speaker 2: trade him to somebody. But obviously, you know, Benson and
23:52
Speaker 2: most likely Krebs are going to get resigned here, and
23:54
Speaker 2: unless the team goes with a massive offering for kessel Ring,
23:57
Speaker 2: who knows. But what are you thinking from this list?
24:00
Speaker 2: Excluding Alex talks We're going to talk about him later.
24:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, bensonting Crabs, I imagine will be back kessel Ring,
24:08
Speaker 4: he's gone. He just there's just no way he signs
24:11
Speaker 4: anything with Buffalo. I can't see it based off one
24:14
Speaker 4: everything I kind of heard from Yarmo at the interviews,
24:18
Speaker 4: especially if he truly does lock up Biram to a
24:22
Speaker 4: long term extension, which is not a priority because he's
24:25
Speaker 4: whatever worst case he can play into the year and
24:27
Speaker 4: we just have an Alex Tuk two point zero situation.
24:29
Speaker 4: But if Byron truly is one of his top priorities,
24:32
Speaker 4: that top four is going to be set for multiple years.
24:35
Speaker 4: Kessell Ring could obviously be a third pair defenseman, but
24:38
Speaker 4: at what point a smart GM would capitalize on his value.
24:43
Speaker 4: Elliott Friedman said on thirty two Thoughts that they would
24:45
Speaker 4: have no issue moving kessell Ring off's what they decide
24:46
Speaker 4: to do. He's a big, good skating, right shot defense
24:49
Speaker 4: when we know how valuable those are. So I think
24:52
Speaker 4: just you could talk yourself and you could you could
24:54
Speaker 4: get something valuable for him depending UFAs I I don't
24:59
Speaker 4: know what Tuck is do. I kind of flip flop
25:01
Speaker 4: back and forth on if he's gonna stay or if
25:03
Speaker 4: he's gonna go. Mallenstein is a guy I'd love to
25:06
Speaker 4: bring back, But also again the type of player that
25:09
Speaker 4: I think just gets a silly contract. The guy who
25:12
Speaker 4: skates as fast as he is, who hits it as
25:14
Speaker 4: physical as he is, and plays and is just a
25:17
Speaker 4: teammate guy that he is. Just screams some team with
25:20
Speaker 4: a lot of cap space will sign him just because
25:22
Speaker 4: he's fast and throws a lot of hits. Maybe he
25:24
Speaker 4: wants to stay on Buffalo and takes a bit of
25:26
Speaker 4: a cheaper contract. That would be awesome because I'd love
25:28
Speaker 4: to have him back. But I also just think you
25:30
Speaker 4: can't get into the business of paying a fourth line
25:32
Speaker 4: or a ton of money, which also kind of goes
25:36
Speaker 4: towards Krebs too. I don't know what that next contract
25:39
Speaker 4: looks like. I just Lindy seems to love the guy
25:41
Speaker 4: and him having RFA rights. I just I assume he's
25:44
Speaker 4: here for at least two or three more years.
25:47
Speaker 2: It's such a good utility guy too, right in plays
25:49
Speaker 2: fourth first line, fourth line can really do anything. Kestle
25:52
Speaker 2: Ring is interesting right because he was essentially the ninth
25:54
Speaker 2: d in the playoffs when you think about it, because
25:56
Speaker 2: all the other eight d played in at least one
25:58
Speaker 2: playoff game except for Michael kessel Ring, which included Metsa.
26:01
Speaker 4: Guessing got in four minutes in Games six against Boston.
26:05
Speaker 2: I don't even honestly, I've totally forgot even about that,
26:08
Speaker 2: that's how short it was. But yes, you're right, he played, Yeah,
26:11
Speaker 2: four minutes against Boston. But just crazy to think about,
26:16
Speaker 2: considering he was the main piece of the JJ Pitturka
26:19
Speaker 2: trading Josh Jones was essentially you know, the little the
26:21
Speaker 2: little icing on top, but it ends up being the
26:24
Speaker 2: opposite there and then obviously Doones worked out phenomenally and
26:27
Speaker 2: now he's on a long term deal for Buffalo. But yeah,
26:29
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if if you can resign
26:32
Speaker 2: kessel Ring and then you move him, it is what
26:34
Speaker 2: it is. But even as you mentioned, if somebody comes
26:36
Speaker 2: with an offer sheet or they don't even tender him,
26:38
Speaker 2: I I don't know. Again, you get into all the
26:40
Speaker 2: the ins and outs of the RFA status and things
26:43
Speaker 2: like that, but.
26:45
Speaker 4: I would have to guess he's traded before that even
26:47
Speaker 4: has to I don't know, though, I just can't. Like
26:49
Speaker 4: I said, it's just every indication is that he won't
26:54
Speaker 4: be back. But I guess we'll see. I mean, you
26:56
Speaker 4: do have his Harfa.
26:57
Speaker 2: Rights, Tanner, Pierre, Josh Done, Luke Shennon, Logan Stanley.
27:02
Speaker 3: Any quick thoughts on those guys.
27:05
Speaker 4: Maybe Josh Dunn on like a vet minimum deal if
27:08
Speaker 4: he can be a tweener. I did like his play
27:09
Speaker 4: style on when he brought But again, like I said,
27:11
Speaker 4: it's just you have so many NHL forwards already signed.
27:17
Speaker 4: Just it has to make sense financially. But you don't
27:21
Speaker 4: need to be nothing against Josh Dunn. He's an NHL
27:24
Speaker 4: hockey player, But like you can find another Josh another
27:27
Speaker 4: Josh Done, and.
27:29
Speaker 3: You've also got Geartzen and Dan Forth who didn't play.
27:32
Speaker 4: Yeah you can you know Kozak can be a full
27:34
Speaker 4: time NHL or you know, like you signed Jake Richard
27:38
Speaker 4: or like we just talked about earlier, he like you
27:40
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like you have guys that can
27:41
Speaker 4: fill the tweener spot already in the organization.
27:46
Speaker 2: So then I guess before we hit the brake, like
27:47
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on that Winnipeg trade now afterward?
27:50
Speaker 2: Like Shannon Stanley most likely gonna walk. You know, we
27:53
Speaker 2: know Rose and there really wasn't a spot for him here,
27:56
Speaker 2: But would you have tried to wanted them to maybe
27:58
Speaker 2: trade him for a bigger piece or something they could
28:01
Speaker 2: have used down the road.
28:02
Speaker 4: It's so hard to tell. Like I again not to
28:05
Speaker 4: that wasn't a great trade obviously. I don't think anyone
28:08
Speaker 4: really thought it was a great trade, but we knew
28:10
Speaker 4: what they were trying to do. Unfortunately, Montreal beat Tampa.
28:14
Speaker 4: You brought you acquired Logan Stanley to help with the
28:17
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay series, and you never got to play Tampa.
28:20
Speaker 4: On the flip side, I do have a bit of
28:22
Speaker 4: a soft spot for Yarmo there because obviously that trade
28:25
Speaker 4: is not happening if Colton Breako dis waisted as no
28:27
Speaker 4: trade clause do I think? I'm not saying he panicked
28:32
Speaker 4: because obviously he had talks with Winnipeg and had this
28:34
Speaker 4: kind of in place as a possibility before the Paraco trade.
28:38
Speaker 4: It wasn't just like oh my god. But I do
28:41
Speaker 4: think if the Paraco trade goes through, obviously that trade
28:44
Speaker 4: doesn't happen. So like I feel bad, not feel bad
28:48
Speaker 4: for the guy, but like I understand why he went
28:51
Speaker 4: for a guy like Logan Stanley, Lucian guys who had
28:54
Speaker 4: some toughness, guys who have playoff experience, things like that
28:57
Speaker 4: so obviously not a great trade, but I ain't gonna
29:00
Speaker 4: fault the guy for pushing his chips in and trying
29:03
Speaker 4: to help the team do what they did. Like, but yeah,
29:07
Speaker 4: I wouldn't bring any of them back.
29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, let's not act like Roseanne was
29:12
Speaker 2: absolutely was, you know, essentially a world beater for Winnipeg.
29:15
Speaker 2: He had three goals in twenty one games as a
29:17
Speaker 2: first rounder in twenty twenty one. He's twenty three years
29:19
Speaker 2: old right now, So if he works out for Winnipeg, great,
29:21
Speaker 2: If not, you know, it is what it is. It's
29:23
Speaker 2: just another Sabers first round pick that they've had, you know,
29:26
Speaker 2: a plethora of over this fourteen year drough. But again,
29:29
Speaker 2: there was just no room for the guy. And you
29:30
Speaker 2: don't even know what his value was to around the league,
29:32
Speaker 2: right because he was basically just stuck in Rochester.
29:35
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, And again I don't think a lot of
29:37
Speaker 4: people are losing sleepover Rosen obviously, but I just think
29:42
Speaker 4: and he was passed right like Helenious Oceland. These guys
29:45
Speaker 4: passed him on on the def league Coolie. I think,
29:48
Speaker 4: well Coolie should already passed him right. Kolich was before
29:51
Speaker 4: his health issue was slotted to be the Sabers number
29:53
Speaker 4: one center. So I mean, yeah, it's just he got
29:56
Speaker 4: passed and you got to move on from the guy.
29:57
Speaker 4: And is that a great trade? No, but that's it.
30:01
Speaker 4: I will say, based off everything we've gone through over
30:03
Speaker 4: the last fifteen years, I'll take the GM who takes
30:05
Speaker 4: a swing, whether it's good or bad. Fair, Wow, what
30:08
Speaker 4: was a miss?
30:09
Speaker 3: Yep?
30:09
Speaker 2: Then you're not going to hit one hundred percent of
30:11
Speaker 2: the trade you makes. So we'll see what Yarmo has
30:14
Speaker 2: planned for his first full off season as the general manager.
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Speaker 2: So Austin our final segment of this season. It's been
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Speaker 2: a fun one again, our first first time getting to
35:55
Speaker 2: cover playoff hockey on this show in the seven years
35:57
Speaker 2: of us doing this, which was a lot of fun
35:59
Speaker 2: and very stressful at times as well. But obviously you know,
36:03
Speaker 2: the Sabers still have work to do, as you can
36:04
Speaker 2: see in the thumbnail here, and you know, one of
36:07
Speaker 2: the biggest i guess things that they have to get
36:10
Speaker 2: get done immediately is the Zach Benson extension. We know
36:12
Speaker 2: how Grady played for the Sabers this season, and again
36:16
Speaker 2: a guy that could still be in his final year
36:17
Speaker 2: a junior hockey when he came into the league as
36:20
Speaker 2: an eighteen year old. So with how well Zach Benson
36:23
Speaker 2: played for the Sabers, not only in the regular season
36:26
Speaker 2: but also here in the playoffs, like, what is your
36:29
Speaker 2: expectation for locking him up long term, most likely on
36:32
Speaker 2: an eight year deal?
36:35
Speaker 4: Well? Is it most likely an eight year deal? That's
36:37
Speaker 4: the one thing that I think needs to be answered
36:39
Speaker 4: if Benson and his agent decide they want to bridge.
36:44
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure an eight year deal could obviously
36:46
Speaker 4: become agreed. I know I put like this if I'm
36:49
Speaker 4: Yrmokka Lion. Nothing against Salax Stuck, but Zach Benson on
36:53
Speaker 4: an eight year deal is my number one priority. That
36:56
Speaker 4: number probably starts with a seven, which is fine given
37:00
Speaker 4: his production and things like that and kind of what
37:01
Speaker 4: you paid, don't it's probably going to come in a
37:03
Speaker 4: step above that. But on a seven or eight year
37:06
Speaker 4: deal for Zak Benson, that's my top priority this offseason.
37:09
Speaker 4: People might find that a little bit crazy and everything
37:11
Speaker 4: like that. But if you can continue to find guys
37:14
Speaker 4: like Benson and get them on value contracts like look
37:17
Speaker 4: at Carolina with what they're paying Stank Covid and the
37:19
Speaker 4: way he's produced in the playoffs, or a guy like
37:22
Speaker 4: they're paying Jackson Blake, Like these are the types of
37:24
Speaker 4: contracts that you want to sign where yeah, you're paying
37:29
Speaker 4: a decent looking number right now, even though you know
37:32
Speaker 4: the production hasn't there, but you're paying them enough to
37:35
Speaker 4: entice them to say, yeah, I can I could buy
37:39
Speaker 4: I can buy some UFA years because if this is
37:41
Speaker 4: my ceiling, at least I'm going to get paid. I
37:42
Speaker 4: don't think Zach Benson has hit his ceiling yet, but
37:45
Speaker 4: if you can get him an eight year deal starts
37:48
Speaker 4: with a seven, I think anything from seven to eight million,
37:51
Speaker 4: i'd be happy with. That's a core piece. And the
37:55
Speaker 4: way you Almo talked about him, it seems like that's
37:56
Speaker 4: what's going to happen. I just wonder how much pushback
37:59
Speaker 4: from Benson's eight are, like, hey, try and get a bridge.
38:02
Speaker 4: You can maximize your value because how many people are
38:05
Speaker 4: going to how many people are going to go like
38:08
Speaker 4: the Matthews route right five year contracts so they can
38:11
Speaker 4: cash in as many as possible. It'll be very interesting
38:13
Speaker 4: to see. But I am priority one is that eight year,
38:17
Speaker 4: seven eight year extension for for Zach Benson.
38:19
Speaker 2: If I'm RMO, I was gonna say I was, I
38:21
Speaker 2: was going to compe it to Josh Dones's contract right
38:24
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, now seems like a like a bargain.
38:28
Speaker 2: I know, U doanes two years older, two or three
38:31
Speaker 2: years older than Zach Benson at the time, So again
38:33
Speaker 2: you have to take that into account as well. But
38:35
Speaker 2: if you're walking him straight to unrestricted free agency, which
38:38
Speaker 2: is twenty seven years old in the National Hockey League.
38:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even even if you're a guy like Zach
38:44
Speaker 4: Benson at age twenty signing a seven eight year deal,
38:47
Speaker 4: you're still you're gonna get you still get one more
38:49
Speaker 4: chance at cash again. So like that's where I think
38:51
Speaker 4: there's some wiggled room, and I'm pretty confident it'll come
38:53
Speaker 4: to an eight year deal if Benson's smart and truly
38:59
Speaker 4: believes in so I could see him trying to push
39:01
Speaker 4: for maybe a two or three year bridge where he
39:03
Speaker 4: can maximize his value there. But I think you're maximizing
39:07
Speaker 4: your value either way, and lock it in an eight
39:09
Speaker 4: year deal now will help not only yourself make some
39:12
Speaker 4: money and get to cash them again, but it'll help
39:14
Speaker 4: the Sabers out a lot, because that's where the Tuck
39:17
Speaker 4: conversation becomes interesting, because if they keep Tuck, Benson will
39:20
Speaker 4: not be signing an eight year deal. They just don't
39:22
Speaker 4: have the room. They can obviously make moves to clear
39:26
Speaker 4: out that space, but it becomes exponentially harder if you
39:30
Speaker 4: sign Tuck to give Benson an eight year deal.
39:33
Speaker 2: And I feel like what Benson did in the playoffs
39:35
Speaker 2: was almost proven that he can he can kind of
39:37
Speaker 2: hang in that top six forward.
39:39
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
39:41
Speaker 4: What he did at twenty years old this season and
39:44
Speaker 4: kind of came his coming out party was the playoffs.
39:47
Speaker 4: But you've seen everyone has seen the glimpses in Zach Benson.
39:50
Speaker 4: So locking in on that and banking on him buying
39:53
Speaker 4: into his potential and that worst case if this is
39:56
Speaker 4: his ceiling him at seven million dollars on pace for
39:58
Speaker 4: forty five to fifty five points in a really good
40:01
Speaker 4: playoff performer, like that's you, you can live with that
40:03
Speaker 4: all day, every day.
40:05
Speaker 2: And everybody wants to talk about the player comp of
40:06
Speaker 2: Brad Marshan, right, And I mean, if you have that
40:09
Speaker 2: for the next eight ten years, I don't think you're
40:11
Speaker 2: going to be complaining about that. And Benson's skill as well,
40:14
Speaker 2: Like he's underrated with his skill in tight and and
40:16
Speaker 2: the way that he's shifty, the way that he can
40:18
Speaker 2: stick handle, like he had five goals and nine points
40:21
Speaker 2: and thirteen playoff games as a then twenty year old
40:23
Speaker 2: that just turned twenty one. So and again like for
40:26
Speaker 2: a guy like I know, a lot of people say,
40:28
Speaker 2: he's only twenty one, you know, what are you expecting.
40:30
Speaker 2: It's like, well, this guy, for only being twenty one
40:32
Speaker 2: years old, he's got a lot of mileage already in
40:34
Speaker 2: the national hockey He's played seventy one, seventy five and
40:36
Speaker 2: sixty five games because he started as an eighteen year old,
40:38
Speaker 2: So a lot of people forget that that. You know,
40:41
Speaker 2: this guy's got three basically full seasons of NHL, you know,
40:45
Speaker 2: play time and experience under his belt at such a
40:47
Speaker 2: young age, which is very rare.
40:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's why he's also in
40:51
Speaker 4: a unique position where I don't. I can't think he
40:54
Speaker 4: might not push for a bitch deal because he's going
40:56
Speaker 4: to get another big contract. If he is the player
40:58
Speaker 4: that we think he is, he'll will breeze through this.
41:01
Speaker 4: Not breeze through this, but he'll get through this eight
41:02
Speaker 4: year deal. And if he's the player that we think
41:04
Speaker 4: he is, an age is the way that a guy
41:06
Speaker 4: like marshan age where he will only get better as
41:08
Speaker 4: you get older, He's gonna be able to cash in again.
41:10
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm pretty confident that a long term deal
41:13
Speaker 4: will get done there. Like I said, even if they
41:16
Speaker 4: somehow keep talking, I still imagine Yardle will make the
41:19
Speaker 4: moose to sign Benson long term because this is a
41:21
Speaker 4: guy you cash in on and try to get value
41:22
Speaker 4: with because his value is only going to keep getting
41:25
Speaker 4: higher and higher, especially as the cap goes up.
41:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean we look at the the forward
41:31
Speaker 2: breakdown for the cap situation there, like you know, you
41:33
Speaker 2: can see it on the video version there, and I'm
41:35
Speaker 2: gonna pull it up because I can't read it. That's
41:37
Speaker 2: small when I'm on the interface here. But like I
41:40
Speaker 2: just think, like you mentioned, if you sign Alex Tuck,
41:42
Speaker 2: you're almost essentially saying that you've got to you've got
41:45
Speaker 2: to move one of your young core pieces that either
41:48
Speaker 2: you know, no, it doesn't.
41:49
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be a core piece if you
41:51
Speaker 4: sign Tuck, but you're gonna have to get someone to
41:53
Speaker 4: take on a Greenway, a Zucker, a McLoud, things like that,
41:57
Speaker 4: which one of those guys you do want to move
41:59
Speaker 4: in a greenway, but you necessarily do You don't necessarily
42:01
Speaker 4: want to move in a cloud and a Zucker, like
42:06
Speaker 4: you don't want Tuck to cost you that if you're
42:09
Speaker 4: trying to pigeonhole Benson into a long harmed deal, which
42:12
Speaker 4: isn't a pigeonhole, but you like you have you make
42:15
Speaker 4: it harder on yourself by signing Tuck if you want
42:17
Speaker 4: Benson on that long term deal, which Yarmos stated that
42:19
Speaker 4: he wants him on that, which obviously he's going to,
42:21
Speaker 4: but I tend to believe him, especially with the way
42:25
Speaker 4: he talked about.
42:25
Speaker 2: Zach Benson, and the position I'm taking too is like,
42:29
Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna have to sign some of those
42:30
Speaker 2: other guys down the road, the Hellaos, the Yuriko, Leach,
42:34
Speaker 2: the no Auscelin, Like if you sign Alex Tuck right
42:36
Speaker 2: now and you re signed Benson to a long eight
42:39
Speaker 2: year extension. At one point to one of those guys say,
42:42
Speaker 2: you know, there's not really much opportunity for me in
42:44
Speaker 2: the top six, and they're going to have to move
42:45
Speaker 2: one of those other guys out, Like I would, I
42:47
Speaker 2: would rather bank on one or two of those three
42:49
Speaker 2: guys that I just mentioned elevating to take a Taged
42:53
Speaker 2: or an Alex Tuck spot eventually, or Zach Benson just
42:56
Speaker 2: filling into that spot, or if you move Tage to
42:58
Speaker 2: the wing, if you're gonna get a Robber Thomas like,
43:00
Speaker 2: I just I feel like if you resign Alex Tuck,
43:02
Speaker 2: you're blocking the way for one of those other guys
43:04
Speaker 2: that has the potential to get there soon.
43:08
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think for me, it's more if you sign
43:10
Speaker 4: Alex Tuck, you're running back the forward group, which isn't
43:13
Speaker 4: necessarily a bad thing. But if you sign Alex Tuck,
43:17
Speaker 4: there is no Robert Thomas, Jordan Kyru, Jason Robertson, Nico Heischer,
43:23
Speaker 4: Jared McCann like that moves is not happening. If you
43:26
Speaker 4: signed Tuck, you just don't have the room. You don't
43:28
Speaker 4: have the room. This year, your cap space opens up
43:30
Speaker 4: a lot more next year. I think they have like
43:33
Speaker 4: fifty four million in space for next year. Yeah, I
43:36
Speaker 4: think Puckidia takes that all into account. I think we
43:38
Speaker 4: know like the next two to three years a cap
43:41
Speaker 4: so it is possible, But like locking up Benson and
43:47
Speaker 4: Tuck to eight year contracts, it just doesn't seem possible
43:50
Speaker 4: this summer. And to me, I don't know. I think
43:56
Speaker 4: Benson should be a priority Overtuck because one is approaching
43:59
Speaker 4: his prime, one is on He's not out of his
44:02
Speaker 4: prime yet, but he's going to be very soon.
44:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
44:04
Speaker 2: I mean for me, Zach Benson's a must to get
44:06
Speaker 2: signed to a long term deal. Whether it's five, whether
44:08
Speaker 2: it's eight, I don't care. That kid needs to be
44:10
Speaker 2: a Buffalo saver for a long period of time because
44:12
Speaker 2: he brings a unique skill set.
44:14
Speaker 4: That five five would be bad because I'm pretty sure
44:17
Speaker 4: with time served, five would take him.
44:19
Speaker 3: To UFA, right, But I mean at one.
44:23
Speaker 4: Two, three, Yeah, a five year deal would walk him
44:25
Speaker 4: to UFA. So it's either a two or a seven. Two,
44:29
Speaker 4: seven or eight is the only contracts I think are
44:31
Speaker 4: acceptable for Benson.
44:32
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll see if if he does go that route.
44:35
Speaker 2: One of the other discussions we wanted to talk about there,
44:38
Speaker 2: we talked about Alex Talk or Boween Byram. You know,
44:40
Speaker 2: one of those two guys getting a long term extension.
44:43
Speaker 2: You can see it up on the screen you mentioned
44:45
Speaker 2: earlier as well. Biram's got one more year under contract
44:48
Speaker 2: before he walks to unrestricted free agency, and we know
44:51
Speaker 2: he would be coveted at that point. Whether the Savers
44:54
Speaker 2: keep him around for just this final year, use him
44:56
Speaker 2: as a as their own rental, just like they did
44:58
Speaker 2: with Alex Talk, whether they try to get him signed
44:59
Speaker 2: to long term contract, whether he gets moved. You know,
45:02
Speaker 2: there's a lot of possibilities there. But if you're on
45:05
Speaker 2: the Alex tuck or bowl and Biram one of them
45:07
Speaker 2: gets a long term extension, what are you who going
45:09
Speaker 2: with here?
45:11
Speaker 4: Yeah? So the reason I like this discussion is because
45:15
Speaker 4: you actually this one. You can do both because Byram
45:18
Speaker 4: signing an eight year extension has nothing to do with
45:21
Speaker 4: your cap this year because he's already signed. So technically,
45:24
Speaker 4: if you want to, you can do both. But the
45:26
Speaker 4: debate becomes interesting to me because long term, who would
45:30
Speaker 4: you rather have? And as much as I love Alex Tuck.
45:32
Speaker 4: I think Biram is the clear answer here, just because
45:34
Speaker 4: he's in his mid twenties and him on an eight
45:37
Speaker 4: year deal finishes that contract at thirty three compared to
45:39
Speaker 4: thirty eight. The Sabers' superpower has been their top four.
45:43
Speaker 4: That top four has messed really well. You know, as
45:45
Speaker 4: much as we talked about how bad Tuck was in
45:47
Speaker 4: the Montreal series, Byron wasn't that great either, So I
45:50
Speaker 4: understand people wanted to bring that up, But my concerns
45:54
Speaker 4: with Tuck have nothing to do with the Montreal series.
45:56
Speaker 4: It just has to do with giving a thirty year
45:57
Speaker 4: old an eight year contract. I wouldn't have that concern
46:01
Speaker 4: with Byron because he's going to be in his late
46:04
Speaker 4: twenties to early thirties throughout the life of that contract
46:06
Speaker 4: and we know he fits in well. So to me,
46:09
Speaker 4: the answer is Byron and mostly just age related and
46:13
Speaker 4: because not having to worry about your top four defense
46:17
Speaker 4: for seven years pretty pretty good thing for a GM
46:21
Speaker 4: to have under his belt. Ah, I don't have to
46:23
Speaker 4: worry about that, Like, that's that's pretty solid.
46:26
Speaker 2: Left shot twenty four years old, as you mentioned, would
46:29
Speaker 2: be about thirty three if you got that long term
46:31
Speaker 2: extension there, He's already signed for one more season and
46:34
Speaker 2: what was it four point two million, six point twenty
46:37
Speaker 2: five for the next this next upcoming twenty six to
46:40
Speaker 2: twenty seven seasons. So as you mentioned, you already have
46:44
Speaker 2: him locked in there with the top four. But again,
46:47
Speaker 2: like if a team comes calling, or Saint Louis wants
46:49
Speaker 2: Boween Byron as a part of that trade, like you know,
46:52
Speaker 2: what are your decisions there, regardless if Alex Tuck walks
46:56
Speaker 2: or not at free agency.
46:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if Saint Louis comes to you and says, hey,
47:01
Speaker 4: we want Byrom to be the centerpiece of a of
47:03
Speaker 4: a Thomas trade, Like, yeah, nothing against Byron, but like, yes,
47:09
Speaker 4: you obviously entertain that and go down that route. I
47:13
Speaker 4: will say my tune changed on Byron a lot. He
47:15
Speaker 4: played extremely well this year. At times it was Buffalo's
47:17
Speaker 4: bens defenseman while Dolling was obviously dealing with what he
47:20
Speaker 4: was dealing with. H the emergence of the way Dollian
47:23
Speaker 4: play at the end of the playoffs, way that power
47:24
Speaker 4: kind of started playing at the end of the playoffs
47:27
Speaker 4: three in the way Samison played, like three of your
47:29
Speaker 4: top four are locked up no matter what. And now
47:32
Speaker 4: just comes down to how much do you value that
47:35
Speaker 4: fourth spot in a Bowen Byron, Kack, Alignancy and Rough
47:39
Speaker 4: seemed to value him heavily. We know, you know, justifiably
47:42
Speaker 4: whatever you think. Byron was the running the second power
47:45
Speaker 4: play unit, not Owen power. Byron was the one playing
47:50
Speaker 4: with Dollien at times. Byron was the one giving the
47:53
Speaker 4: most minutes at times. So like, this team trusts him,
47:56
Speaker 4: they like him, and he's a very good offensive defenseman.
48:01
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's untouchable because he's not like at all.
48:03
Speaker 4: If someone offers you wants him and to blows your
48:06
Speaker 4: socks off. Absolutely, the appeal of signing him to an
48:09
Speaker 4: eight year deal and having your top four defense just
48:12
Speaker 4: like I said, you lock the key, don't have to
48:14
Speaker 4: sweat it out, don't ever have to think about it
48:16
Speaker 4: while these four eyes are here, gives you a lot
48:19
Speaker 4: of freedom as a GM. And I think that's a
48:20
Speaker 4: freedom that Yarma is going to to want. And if
48:23
Speaker 4: we're being honest, like the contract would have to make sense.
48:28
Speaker 4: But I just I don't think Byron's costing you nine
48:30
Speaker 4: million or sorry, ten million, like if he's in the nines,
48:33
Speaker 4: sounds crazy, but with the way the CAP's going up, like,
48:35
Speaker 4: I'd be fine. I'd be fine with paying him in
48:38
Speaker 4: the nines anything more than not. No, like we'll walk away.
48:41
Speaker 4: You know you don't have to, the best part about
48:44
Speaker 4: this is I like this debate because one is a
48:47
Speaker 4: guy you have to make a decision on in Tuck.
48:49
Speaker 4: The other one is a guy you don't. You don't
48:50
Speaker 4: have to if you don't want to. I just thought
48:52
Speaker 4: it was interesting because Armo specifically said he'd love to
48:54
Speaker 4: lock him up long term. And two, the dollar amount
48:59
Speaker 4: that Byron would sign for would be similar to what
49:01
Speaker 4: a Tuck would sign for in Buffalo. I think. So
49:03
Speaker 4: that's why to me, it's an interesting debate, and I
49:05
Speaker 4: think just the age clearly favors Byrom here, like, why
49:10
Speaker 4: wouldn't why wouldn't you want Byron locked up long term?
49:13
Speaker 2: Overtuck Samuelson is signed till twenty nine to thirty at
49:18
Speaker 2: age twenty six, You've got Power, as you mentioned, locked
49:21
Speaker 2: up till twenty thirty one, at twenty three, you've got
49:24
Speaker 2: Dallian at age twenty six.
49:25
Speaker 3: Right now, locked up till twenty thirty two.
49:27
Speaker 4: We're talking at four years. If you signed Byram four years.
49:30
Speaker 4: You do not have to worry about it.
49:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a big dollar amount though. I mean
49:35
Speaker 2: when you look at those four guys, but again with
49:37
Speaker 2: the cap going up, it almost looks like a bargain
49:39
Speaker 2: at that point.
49:40
Speaker 4: It is, but that's when Samuelson also becomes a bargain
49:42
Speaker 4: making four million as a top four defenseman.
49:46
Speaker 2: And if Power continues his you know, upward trajectory a.
49:49
Speaker 4: Point, even if he doesn't, even if Power plays at
49:51
Speaker 4: the level that Power played this year. I think you're
49:53
Speaker 4: fine at eight point three five. I know, I am,
49:55
Speaker 4: I don't. I know some people might not be, but like,
49:57
Speaker 4: I'm totally fine with that.
49:59
Speaker 2: And DOLLI in, you're Norris finalists at eleven mil. Yeah,
50:04
Speaker 2: And I mean the rest of the decor is basically
50:06
Speaker 2: interchangeable at that point. With the bottom pair the bottom
50:09
Speaker 2: pair guys, we know kessel Rings supposed to be a
50:11
Speaker 2: top four. That seems like it's out the window at
50:13
Speaker 2: this point. If they keep Byrom around.
50:16
Speaker 4: Honestly, that's a more interesting in just terms of interest,
50:20
Speaker 4: not actually value or impact on the team. But it
50:22
Speaker 4: will be interesting to see how Yarmo shapes up the
50:25
Speaker 4: bottom of that decore because Timmons is here for one
50:28
Speaker 4: more year. We know how much they valued him. That's
50:32
Speaker 4: a sign for another year. But then they have guys
50:35
Speaker 4: like you know, not that these guys will step in
50:37
Speaker 4: right away, but depending on how they want to build
50:39
Speaker 4: out this bottom pair. Does a guy like Gavin McCarthy,
50:43
Speaker 4: a rookie of maximum stir back like, do these guys
50:45
Speaker 4: have a shot? Does yarm will go out and find
50:47
Speaker 4: a true left shot defenseman to play on the third
50:49
Speaker 4: pair where you have three traditional pairs or handling that
50:53
Speaker 4: third pair is an interesting storyline. It does not have
50:57
Speaker 4: a ton of impact on the team with the if
50:59
Speaker 4: the top four is what the top four is, but
51:01
Speaker 4: it is an interesting storyline of follow and I'm kind
51:02
Speaker 4: of curious how Yarma was gonna play that out.
51:05
Speaker 2: You do have Ryan Johnson signed for another year as well.
51:08
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he was a guy we thought
51:10
Speaker 2: at one point a couple of years ago that he
51:11
Speaker 2: was going to be a mainstay in this decorp and
51:13
Speaker 2: he just obviously hasn't been.
51:15
Speaker 4: You mentioned was on the Black Ace squad.
51:18
Speaker 3: I don't think he was.
51:19
Speaker 4: Kolorov was, which I thought was interesting.
51:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stirback McCarthy Merca too. Like to me, Murka is
51:25
Speaker 2: an X factor too, because.
51:26
Speaker 4: I think he's gone, already traded him. I mean, I
51:28
Speaker 4: don't know. Obviously, that's not that that's not a very
51:30
Speaker 4: hard conversation to have. Look, dude, you're here. But I
51:35
Speaker 4: find it I don't find it crazy to think he's
51:38
Speaker 4: gone because you already traded once.
51:40
Speaker 2: Basically, I know, And that's a that's a tough conversation
51:43
Speaker 2: to have with a guy, right, like, we traded you,
51:45
Speaker 2: but you know the trade got nicked. But I don't know.
51:48
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of redeem Merca. I would love
51:50
Speaker 2: to see him on this decorp. But if you're signing
51:52
Speaker 2: Boom and Byram long term, where where's the possibility for
51:55
Speaker 2: him to play? And that if that is the route
51:57
Speaker 2: they go, then you can basically kiss Redeemerka goo.
52:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly that I am very okay with that.
52:05
Speaker 4: As much as I like the player, I do like
52:06
Speaker 4: pretty Murka a lot. I think he's he fits the
52:09
Speaker 4: style that Buffalo wants their defense to play. He's a
52:11
Speaker 4: right shot, that's all great, But if you keep the
52:15
Speaker 4: top four locked up for four plus years, yeah, there's
52:17
Speaker 4: no spot for Merca.
52:19
Speaker 3: He's not gonna play bottom pair. He's not a bottom
52:21
Speaker 3: pair guy.
52:21
Speaker 4: I mean he could as he starts, but we're talking
52:23
Speaker 4: a guy who's two years away minimum. Yeah, and then
52:26
Speaker 4: we had some HL time and things like that, but like,
52:28
Speaker 4: let's be realistic about a nineteen year twenty year old player.
52:32
Speaker 4: He's two or three years away. Well, in two or
52:34
Speaker 4: three years, if Byron's locked up long term, that top
52:36
Speaker 4: four is still solidified. So either he is here in
52:40
Speaker 4: playing on the bottom pair, or he's gone this summer.
52:44
Speaker 4: And I think if out of the two options, I
52:45
Speaker 4: think it's way more realistic he's gone this summer. We
52:49
Speaker 4: know one Saint Louis values him. We know a big,
52:52
Speaker 4: puck moving right shot defenseman. Again, especially a guy who
52:56
Speaker 4: doesn't have the tarnish like a kessel Ring. But these
52:58
Speaker 4: are two guys that are going to be value around
53:00
Speaker 4: the league. So like wouldn't be surprised at all if
53:02
Speaker 4: he's gone. I kind of expect him to be traded.
53:04
Speaker 2: Teams will salivate over that, you know what I mean,
53:07
Speaker 2: Like just his size, you mentioned right shot, you know,
53:11
Speaker 2: like again he's he's still a project only in his
53:13
Speaker 2: second year of North American hockey as well, but I
53:16
Speaker 2: really like the player. But again, if you're locking up byrom,
53:20
Speaker 2: there's really nowhere for him to grow in this decor
53:23
Speaker 2: over the next five or six years. So if Murca
53:26
Speaker 2: has to be a trade piece, as much as I
53:27
Speaker 2: would hate it because I really do like the player
53:29
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, you kind of have to make
53:32
Speaker 2: that deal. And we already saw that he got traded
53:33
Speaker 2: once for Perreco and and Pareco said no to coming
53:36
Speaker 2: to Buffalo, So that is what it is there. Any
53:40
Speaker 2: on those non rostered forwards you want to mention, like
53:42
Speaker 2: Wahlberg or any of those other guys.
53:46
Speaker 4: No, I mean Wahlberg never got to play, but he
53:48
Speaker 4: got called up for one game earlier this year. He
53:50
Speaker 4: was on the black A squad. He's still a guy.
53:51
Speaker 4: He took a little bit of a step back this year,
53:53
Speaker 4: but I think he's still a guy that could have
53:54
Speaker 4: some value. But he's a guy that's going to have
53:57
Speaker 4: to work his way up. The forward group is not
54:00
Speaker 4: as open for competition as we're used to seeing, and
54:04
Speaker 4: not only is that because they have really good players,
54:06
Speaker 4: but because it appears on the surface that the young
54:09
Speaker 4: guys that we have been waiting for, which I mean,
54:13
Speaker 4: we haven't been waiting that long, but like three years
54:16
Speaker 4: ago when Adams is like, we need to let the
54:17
Speaker 4: young guys have a chance. Turns out if he just
54:19
Speaker 4: waited three years and said that, he wouldn't have been
54:21
Speaker 4: dumb because Iceland and Helenius look legit. I'm very excited
54:25
Speaker 4: to see what Koole each can do. That's an interesting
54:29
Speaker 4: name too. I would still imagine he's here. I don't,
54:32
Speaker 4: like I said out of I don't know what his
54:33
Speaker 4: trade value is, but he's a guy. Yeah, I don't know,
54:38
Speaker 4: so if he's here, it'll be interesting to see with
54:40
Speaker 4: everything like he's if he's healthy this year, I think
54:44
Speaker 4: we probably it's easy to say this because we haven't whatever.
54:49
Speaker 4: I think we're talking about him at the same level
54:50
Speaker 4: we're talking about Oceland or Helenius just because like I
54:53
Speaker 4: do think Erik Koulik is very good at hockey. So
54:56
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's a guy that we don't know
54:58
Speaker 4: exactly what he's going to look like. But if he
55:00
Speaker 4: lives up to what now that he's healthy, he's still
55:04
Speaker 4: a very good player that has to be packered in.
55:08
Speaker 4: But again, the problem is if you want the difference maker.
55:11
Speaker 4: If you want the through proven top six forward, it's
55:13
Speaker 4: going to cost you, and what exactly is it going
55:15
Speaker 4: to cost you? Kulik right now, just with the nature
55:18
Speaker 4: of the Beast is not at the level of a
55:20
Speaker 4: hole Anys or Oaceland in terms of do I need
55:22
Speaker 4: to keep this guy. He's a tier below them for me.
55:28
Speaker 3: Quickly.
55:28
Speaker 2: Want to bring up this tweet or this quote from
55:30
Speaker 2: Frank Serravali. The talk camp is pretty firm in their
55:33
Speaker 2: belief that they can reach a seven year figure AAV
55:36
Speaker 2: and so that what will really come down to is
55:39
Speaker 2: what the gravitational pull for Tuck to stay in Buffalo
55:42
Speaker 2: is from Kevin Carrius show on May twenty six. So
55:46
Speaker 2: that's just a little adding a little bit more to
55:48
Speaker 2: the Alex Tuk situation.
55:50
Speaker 4: And also get go get your seven figures, buddy, go
55:52
Speaker 4: get it.
55:54
Speaker 2: And the last discussion before we wrap up is Devin
55:57
Speaker 2: Levi's name popped up. I think it was Jeff and
55:59
Speaker 2: Merrick that so they're looking at potential possibilities for Devin
56:02
Speaker 2: lee By.
56:03
Speaker 4: I've seen the Jeff Merrick one. I think Weeks Kevin
56:06
Speaker 4: Weeks mentioned Ottawa and a couple other teams. Is circling
56:08
Speaker 4: in on Levi, which again makes makes a lot of sense.
56:11
Speaker 3: He's on the athletics trade board here.
56:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, how do I put this? It's
56:19
Speaker 4: hard to say that he was passed by Colton Ellis,
56:22
Speaker 4: but it is pretty notable they claimed a guy like
56:24
Speaker 4: Colton Ellis and kept him on the roster all year,
56:27
Speaker 4: basically blocking Levi four this year. Now, that could have
56:30
Speaker 4: been by design, like, hey, Levi, we don't want you
56:32
Speaker 4: playing fourteen games this year. We'd rather you be playing
56:35
Speaker 4: the fifty you played in the AHL or whatever this
56:38
Speaker 4: whatever it is. But the notable part of that is
56:42
Speaker 4: Ellis is here next year, like and so is lucing In,
56:48
Speaker 4: and so is Lyon pending a move waivers. Levi needs waivers,
56:53
Speaker 4: Ellis will need waivers. It is very, very very interesting.
56:57
Speaker 4: So it is not surprising that a goalie who had
57:00
Speaker 4: the pedigree that Levi had coming out of college and
57:02
Speaker 4: even to briefly start his career, Yeah, he's gonna garner
57:06
Speaker 4: some interest. I mean, obviously, you look at the numbers.
57:09
Speaker 4: He didn't have the best year in the AHL this year,
57:11
Speaker 4: but I can't think he still played really.
57:13
Speaker 3: Well and he's a key piece of the Reinhart trade, right.
57:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, him at Gleach. The trade the draft pick ended
57:20
Speaker 4: up being quick. But at this point you have to
57:23
Speaker 4: ask yourself, is he a depreciating ascid? I don't know
57:29
Speaker 4: the answer to this. I still really like Devin Levi.
57:31
Speaker 4: I'd love to see Devin leve I get a shot.
57:33
Speaker 3: He's already twenty four, which is crazy to think.
57:35
Speaker 4: But that goes back to my point, where goalies don't
57:37
Speaker 4: enter their prime till the mid to late twenties. So like,
57:39
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about his age either. I just it
57:43
Speaker 4: seems like he's blocked out. And if he's blocked out
57:45
Speaker 4: it needs waivers. Then he's got to be moved. I
57:48
Speaker 4: think the fourth period brought up his name around the
57:50
Speaker 4: trade deadline, like around that day, saying like the Sabers
57:52
Speaker 4: are gauging. I don't know if that was true, blah
57:54
Speaker 4: blah blah Merrek said was Americ. I don't if somebody
57:56
Speaker 4: said the relationship is just done. I also don't really
57:59
Speaker 4: believe that, because what no offense, Levi? What leverage do
58:02
Speaker 4: you have? Like whatever? But yeah, like I mean, at
58:07
Speaker 4: this point, you got to explore the value for a
58:09
Speaker 4: guy like Devin Levi because sorry, that's my cat.
58:15
Speaker 3: He's got an opinion on it too.
58:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like so, I'm not surprised. Again, I'm not
58:19
Speaker 4: in a rush to move the guy. But you are
58:21
Speaker 4: at a point now where you have four NHL if
58:23
Speaker 4: you count leave, but you have four goalies on your
58:25
Speaker 4: roster that need to be in the NHL, just contractually
58:28
Speaker 4: so naturally bare minimum, one of them has to go.
58:34
Speaker 3: And I mean no offense.
58:35
Speaker 2: But we've seen you know, they brought him into the
58:37
Speaker 2: NHL early on in his career, and you know the
58:40
Speaker 2: stats weren't world beating, right, And.
58:43
Speaker 4: No, I mean the stats weren't world beating. I mean
58:46
Speaker 4: it's hard like Ellis had such a limited sample size.
58:49
Speaker 4: But Ellis looked solid at times, he was chaotic at times,
58:52
Speaker 4: but his number is good. Could Levi have put that
58:56
Speaker 4: up in his fourteen games. I'm not gonna sit here
58:58
Speaker 4: and say no, he had similar HL numbers to a
59:01
Speaker 4: guy like Ellis. But I think it was notable that
59:04
Speaker 4: they went out and got Ellis. Yeah, whether that was
59:08
Speaker 4: to because we don't, like I said, whether that was
59:10
Speaker 4: because Levi, we don't want you being the third goalie.
59:12
Speaker 4: That's not good for your development. But on the same level.
59:14
Speaker 4: They thought it was good for Ellis's development because he's
59:17
Speaker 4: the same age with with no NHL experience.
59:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Levi's been the starter in Rochester now the
59:23
Speaker 2: last two seasons. You almost think, like now that you
59:25
Speaker 2: know three years, at some point is to be in
59:27
Speaker 2: the NHL for another team most likely.
59:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said, like, I think the quicker you
59:33
Speaker 4: resolved goalie, the better, whether that's moving a Lion, Ellis
59:36
Speaker 4: or Levi. And I don't think you're moving Lion because
59:38
Speaker 4: he's so he's so cheap and has one year left
59:41
Speaker 4: and he's really good. Or maybe lucan In but he
59:48
Speaker 4: was the I don't know. The goalie situation is interesting.
59:50
Speaker 4: One of them has to go, but I would find
59:53
Speaker 4: it very, very very hard to believe that they would
59:55
Speaker 4: run into a season with Lion, Ellis and Levi as
59:58
Speaker 4: their three. So like that's why I'm saying Luken's on
1:00:01
Speaker 4: the team, and I'm pretty sure it's safe to bet
1:00:03
Speaker 4: the Lions on the team. So it comes down to
1:00:05
Speaker 4: Levi or Ellis. And like I said, Ellis is under
1:00:11
Speaker 4: contract next year, Like you don't have to do anything
1:00:13
Speaker 4: with him. It's not you have to give him an
1:00:15
Speaker 4: RFA tender or anything. No, like he's signed. So it
1:00:19
Speaker 4: comes down to I I think ideally you would capitalize
1:00:24
Speaker 4: and move Ellis or Levi early, Like, don't come into
1:00:27
Speaker 4: training camp with all four of them because in your
1:00:29
Speaker 4: pigeonhole yourself. So I think we'll get a resolution on
1:00:31
Speaker 4: the Levi whatever that situation is, we'll get a resolution
1:00:34
Speaker 4: on that, I think pretty quickly.
1:00:38
Speaker 2: I don't think it was out of the blue that
1:00:40
Speaker 2: his name was thrown around, you know, just like, oh, it.
1:00:45
Speaker 4: Can't be like I said it just it literally cannot
1:00:47
Speaker 4: be when like other people know your goaltenders contract situations
1:00:51
Speaker 4: and things like that. Everyone knows he's gonna need waivers
1:00:53
Speaker 4: next year. Everyone knows he is in the NHL or
1:00:56
Speaker 4: not in terms of on your roster, because if you
1:00:59
Speaker 4: wave them, he's going to get claimed, like like we
1:01:01
Speaker 4: claimed Colt Elice obviously, Devin Levi.
1:01:03
Speaker 2: Is going to get claimed if he ever waived, or
1:01:05
Speaker 2: Colton Ellis would get reclaimed by Saint Louis waivers.
1:01:08
Speaker 4: Again, Y's what I mean. So, like the goalie situation,
1:01:10
Speaker 4: one of them is gone. You also have rats laugh
1:01:15
Speaker 4: and leaning in down in Rochester. Leanders don't know we
1:01:20
Speaker 4: have to offer him a contract or he'll re enter
1:01:22
Speaker 4: the draft. I believe there's something going on with his
1:01:24
Speaker 4: contract situation where if we don't give him in the LC,
1:01:27
Speaker 4: he's not our property anymore. I don't know if he
1:01:28
Speaker 4: re enters the draft or becomes a free agent, he could,
1:01:34
Speaker 4: but I think if he goes to college, Buffalo doesn't
1:01:37
Speaker 4: lose his rights. I don't know, I don't I don't
1:01:38
Speaker 4: know how this works, especially now with the hl to
1:01:40
Speaker 4: NCAA pipeline. But there is someone that they also have
1:01:43
Speaker 4: to make a decision on there. They have they drafted
1:01:46
Speaker 4: the Belarusian goalie like they have goalies in the pipeline.
1:01:49
Speaker 4: So like, no nothing against Levi or Ellis at this point,
1:01:55
Speaker 4: but like the one of you is gonna go, and
1:01:58
Speaker 4: my betting money is on Levi. One, his name is
1:02:00
Speaker 4: being thrown out there. And two, like I said, they
1:02:03
Speaker 4: relied on Colton Nellie at times this year, they didn't
1:02:05
Speaker 4: call up Devin Levi.
1:02:06
Speaker 2: You've got such a roadblock at that goalie position, especially
1:02:09
Speaker 2: with Lucanan signed for the next three years of four
1:02:11
Speaker 2: point seventy five. Lions got one more year at one
1:02:13
Speaker 2: point five, and then you mentioned Ellish, but then he'd
1:02:17
Speaker 2: be he becomes a R he's in the UFA grouping
1:02:20
Speaker 2: with like he's.
1:02:21
Speaker 4: Not it right, yeah, because I don't think he's going
1:02:23
Speaker 4: to play an off NHL games.
1:02:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:02:26
Speaker 2: And then as you mentioned Levi down there again. I
1:02:29
Speaker 2: like Devin Levi, but again he seems like he's been
1:02:32
Speaker 2: passed on the depth chart. And if they are going
1:02:34
Speaker 2: to run it back with lucan In, you know, if
1:02:35
Speaker 2: they don't go and get a Connor Hellibuck or one
1:02:38
Speaker 2: of those crazy names that we're out there, you know, realistically,
1:02:41
Speaker 2: one of those three goalies at least is going to
1:02:43
Speaker 2: be gone if they're going to run with the three
1:02:44
Speaker 2: goalie rotation again, and that's probably gonna be Devin Levi
1:02:48
Speaker 2: where they're smoke, there's fire in his name has been.
1:02:50
Speaker 3: Out there on more than one occasion now.
1:02:52
Speaker 2: So before we wrap up Boston, just that quick quick
1:02:55
Speaker 2: trade board. I know we'll probably come back in between
1:02:57
Speaker 2: the draft and free agency unless the Sabers make some
1:03:00
Speaker 2: earth shattering move. No draft preview we could see them
1:03:03
Speaker 2: moving that pick. So we're not gonna do that as
1:03:05
Speaker 2: we've usually done in most seasons with them picking late
1:03:08
Speaker 2: for once, not with a top ten pick. So anybody
1:03:11
Speaker 2: on that trade board that you could potentially talk yourself
1:03:14
Speaker 2: into here that I.
1:03:16
Speaker 4: Could talk myself into. Yeah, I mean Jordan Kyru is
1:03:20
Speaker 4: very interesting, gonna be less expensive than not contract wise,
1:03:25
Speaker 4: Like he's not gonna just you don't have to give
1:03:26
Speaker 4: up as much to get a guy like Jordan Kyrou.
1:03:29
Speaker 4: And he's a winger. He's a guy that I could
1:03:30
Speaker 4: see being of interest to Buffalo. Obviously McTavish. I'm trying
1:03:38
Speaker 4: not to let my personal opinion of him sway me
1:03:41
Speaker 4: because I really like Mason McTavish. He's not newly as
1:03:43
Speaker 4: good as I thought he was going to be. He's
1:03:45
Speaker 4: still very good. I could talk myself into that. And
1:03:48
Speaker 4: then the other ones are obviously Thomas Pareco just simply
1:03:51
Speaker 4: because we had tried to trade for him, So like,
1:03:54
Speaker 4: is that dead? I don't know. We'll see what happens,
1:03:56
Speaker 4: especially with Bowen Byrom. If we're signing Byrom, we're not
1:03:59
Speaker 4: trading for Paraco Obvios. And then I mean Jason Robertson.
1:04:05
Speaker 4: I think Buffalo fans have been on that one for
1:04:07
Speaker 4: a while. Needs a contract, but like, how could you
1:04:12
Speaker 4: not want to trade for a guy like that too.
1:04:14
Speaker 4: Dallas might be in a cap crunch situation where they
1:04:16
Speaker 4: have to make some decisions. Like so there's obviously like
1:04:20
Speaker 4: that's this is this type of trade board here, and
1:04:22
Speaker 4: I think was Yeah, Lebron put an article out saying
1:04:26
Speaker 4: like there are trade discussions going on for players that
1:04:29
Speaker 4: no one's even mentioned, that no one's even thinking of,
1:04:31
Speaker 4: Like I truly do. We hear it every trade deadline,
1:04:34
Speaker 4: every off season, every draft, all this stuff, how much
1:04:36
Speaker 4: we're going to see trade explosions and we never get it.
1:04:39
Speaker 4: If we were ever going to actually get it, this
1:04:41
Speaker 4: is the off season to do it, just because of
1:04:42
Speaker 4: how bad the free agency is. Like, look at all
1:04:44
Speaker 4: those A lot of those names are enticing. Like for
1:04:48
Speaker 4: the Sabers, I want no part of Vincent Trocheck, but
1:04:50
Speaker 4: like Vincent Trocheck at thirty three, who puts up fifty
1:04:52
Speaker 4: five to sixty five points every year, people are gonna
1:04:55
Speaker 4: be all over that.
1:04:56
Speaker 3: Minnesota. Probably they need a lot of centers.
1:04:58
Speaker 4: So that's what I mean. Like these names on this
1:05:00
Speaker 4: list are all I mean, maybe not darne On Nurse
1:05:03
Speaker 4: and Morgan Riley, but people will believe that.
1:05:05
Speaker 3: They're good, way more enticing than the free agent list
1:05:08
Speaker 3: we put up.
1:05:09
Speaker 4: Oh, that's that's what I'm saying, like it it is,
1:05:11
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting and whether they actually get
1:05:13
Speaker 4: traded or not. But like, see, it is funny seeing
1:05:15
Speaker 4: the second and fourth overall picks on there because again
1:05:17
Speaker 4: same thing we hear every year, how this is going
1:05:19
Speaker 4: to be people moving into the top five, and it
1:05:21
Speaker 4: almost never does. This year though, could see San Jose
1:05:24
Speaker 4: doing it because do they really need another top two pick? No,
1:05:30
Speaker 4: they don't need it, Like it would be like they're
1:05:31
Speaker 4: not going to turn it away if the offer is
1:05:33
Speaker 4: not there, but like them having that pick, using it
1:05:35
Speaker 4: for a piece that could help them. Now I could
1:05:38
Speaker 4: see my career absolutely doing that.
1:05:40
Speaker 3: You need a defenseman flowing Byron. I don't know.
1:05:43
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, relaxed, you sound like that. That that's one
1:05:46
Speaker 4: of those dumb mock trades that we talked about earlier.
1:05:49
Speaker 2: Michael Kessel Rings an option for San Jose though for
1:05:51
Speaker 2: not the second pick, but yeah, like yeah, Ring easily
1:05:57
Speaker 2: a top three d on San Jose.
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Speaker 4: Right now, Ring going to go I don't know what
1:06:01
Speaker 4: people think he's going to go for, so I shouldn't
1:06:02
Speaker 4: say this, but I again with the size the skating
1:06:05
Speaker 4: and the shot handedness. Someone's going to talk themselves into
1:06:10
Speaker 4: giving up something of value for kessel Ring, whether it's
1:06:13
Speaker 4: straight up or whether kessel Rings put into a package.
1:06:16
Speaker 4: He is a valuable piece. But it is interesting that
1:06:20
Speaker 4: kessel Ring and Levi are there. I know, last thing
1:06:23
Speaker 4: I'll say, I don't. I'm not saying I want to
1:06:25
Speaker 4: trade him. I do wonder about McLeod's future in Buffalo with
1:06:28
Speaker 4: Yarmo as the GM, because I don't want to trade him.
1:06:34
Speaker 4: I would much rather trade Norris. But out of the two,
1:06:37
Speaker 4: I could see McCloud being a lot more valuable to
1:06:39
Speaker 4: another team, just because the dude stays healthy. Norris does not. Yeah,
1:06:43
Speaker 4: So like I do wonder about McLeod, I don't want
1:06:45
Speaker 4: to trade him, but like it isn't crazy to suggest,
1:06:49
Speaker 4: like not for a Robert Thomas, but like for a
1:06:52
Speaker 4: Jordan Kyrie. Like can you do a McLeod Murca package
1:06:56
Speaker 4: with other stuff and maybe other stuff involved, but like
1:06:58
Speaker 4: could you talk Saint Louis into like, hey, here's McLeod
1:07:02
Speaker 4: at middle sixth center, will take your top line winger.
1:07:04
Speaker 4: I don't know it's possible. I'm not.
1:07:08
Speaker 3: Pieces too.
1:07:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like could you could talk a team like
1:07:12
Speaker 4: we traded Matt Savoy, who was considered one of our
1:07:14
Speaker 4: top prospects at the time. Straight up for McCloud. McLoud
1:07:18
Speaker 4: has gotten better. He's put up fifty plus points two
1:07:22
Speaker 4: years like in a row with Buffalo, so his value
1:07:26
Speaker 4: has gotten better. Could I could see someone like wanting
1:07:30
Speaker 4: him over a Norris If you and we talked about
1:07:33
Speaker 4: the center logjam for Buffalo, there's a guy potentially who
1:07:36
Speaker 4: could get you something of value. I'm not saying you
1:07:39
Speaker 4: should do it, but it was notable that Rough said
1:07:43
Speaker 4: Josh Jones probably gonna be a penalty killer now. Could
1:07:46
Speaker 4: was he talking about replacing Tuck Maybe? But the other
1:07:49
Speaker 4: penalty killer that don't be replacing is McLeod.
1:07:53
Speaker 2: Or Jordan Greenway your favorite forward on the penalty kill
1:07:59
Speaker 2: in the second round.
1:08:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Jordan Greenways a saber next shot, that's.
1:08:02
Speaker 2: Another I'm with you. I like McTavish, but I think
1:08:06
Speaker 2: one of those Saint Louis played like that. Saint Louis,
1:08:10
Speaker 2: I guess tie there with the Merca for Perreco trade,
1:08:13
Speaker 2: Like I think you is gonna circle back around to
1:08:16
Speaker 2: to Doug Armstrong and the Saint Louis Blues. I think
1:08:19
Speaker 2: that you know, Jordan Binnington, I don't even want any
1:08:22
Speaker 2: part of that either. But one of those Saint Louis
1:08:24
Speaker 2: players on that board, either Cayrou or Robert Thomas, I
1:08:27
Speaker 2: think is most likely going to be Buffalo's trade target
1:08:30
Speaker 2: if they are going to go in the trade route,
1:08:31
Speaker 2: which given the free agents that are available, I think
1:08:35
Speaker 2: that's honestly, yeah.
1:08:37
Speaker 4: The trade Yeah, the trade road is one hundred percent.
1:08:39
Speaker 2: And with Saint Louis, I just think it's a perfect
1:08:41
Speaker 2: match that the Sabers have a lot of good young
1:08:43
Speaker 2: players for the Blues to be able to want to
1:08:45
Speaker 2: acquire where they're at and they're rebuild, like I just
1:08:47
Speaker 2: think I think it's a perfect match for what the
1:08:49
Speaker 2: two teams are sort of looking for, and if the
1:08:51
Speaker 2: Blues are looking to unload some contracts like Kyrou Robert Thomas,
1:08:55
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo, where they're at, you know, could could
1:08:57
Speaker 2: make that happen, and they have obviously the young assets
1:08:59
Speaker 2: to it.
1:09:01
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think it's probably gonna be,
1:09:04
Speaker 4: like we already know, there's been dialogue and things like that.
1:09:06
Speaker 4: My sneaky not not, I don't know, my sneaky gut feeling,
1:09:13
Speaker 4: and I brought this up to a buddy at work,
1:09:14
Speaker 4: probably around the same time the Robert Thomas stuff, and
1:09:19
Speaker 4: it's just after the trade deadline. I don't know if
1:09:23
Speaker 4: he'll cost as much because he's appending the UFA. There
1:09:25
Speaker 4: also is the worry that he is appending UFA. But
1:09:28
Speaker 4: I do wonder if they kick tires on Nicohesher if
1:09:32
Speaker 4: he truly is available for New Jersey. There's the Lindi
1:09:35
Speaker 4: Rough connection. Not as offensively gifted is Robert Thomas, but
1:09:41
Speaker 4: he's a really good two ways sooner twenty eight years old.
1:09:44
Speaker 4: Twenty eight years old needs a contract?
1:09:47
Speaker 3: What's the Jersey doing? That's the other thing is like
1:09:49
Speaker 3: what rut are they go?
1:09:50
Speaker 4: Well, they want to sign him, but Sonny Meta is
1:09:53
Speaker 4: a very smart guy that they hired as the GM,
1:09:55
Speaker 4: and I don't think he's going to one overpay for
1:09:58
Speaker 4: a guy like he Shure, and two he's not going
1:09:59
Speaker 4: to to pigeonhole himself to where if he sure doesn't
1:10:02
Speaker 4: want to sign, I just don't think he's going to
1:10:07
Speaker 4: do anything that will walk into UFA status. It's like,
1:10:10
Speaker 4: I just he Shure's a name that I am wondering.
1:10:12
Speaker 4: I would would you think, and there is the Lindy
1:10:14
Speaker 4: Rough connection.
1:10:15
Speaker 2: Do you think that he would be willing to take
1:10:17
Speaker 2: back a contract like McLeod or Norris in a deal
1:10:20
Speaker 2: like that?
1:10:21
Speaker 4: He will not take Norris if he's smarter, and he
1:10:26
Speaker 4: is smart.
1:10:26
Speaker 2: He is all right, Austin final thoughts, we're going in
1:10:30
Speaker 2: the off season now. It's been a heck of a season,
1:10:32
Speaker 2: been a lot of fun, and it's obviously we're sinking
1:10:35
Speaker 2: our teeth into possibilities with the Sabers here, you know,
1:10:37
Speaker 2: going into an important offseason looking to build off of
1:10:40
Speaker 2: an Atlantic Division title, second round appearance, and you know
1:10:43
Speaker 2: they they now that they've got that taste now in
1:10:45
Speaker 2: the way that it ended, you know they're going to
1:10:47
Speaker 2: want more. So I guess, uh. What are your parting
1:10:50
Speaker 2: thoughts as we head into this offseason.
1:10:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yarmos said the best has yet to come, the
1:10:55
Speaker 4: futures right in front of us. However he worded it, One,
1:10:58
Speaker 4: I think he's right, But two, I think that's him
1:11:01
Speaker 4: basically saying he's gonna try to add to this team
1:11:07
Speaker 4: to get them over the top. I don't necessarily know
1:11:09
Speaker 4: if that means a huge, huge splash move, but there
1:11:12
Speaker 4: will be a by definition in the NHL. There will
1:11:16
Speaker 4: be a significant piece added to this team. I'm not
1:11:19
Speaker 4: saying superstar, but there will be. Again, we know the
1:11:22
Speaker 4: NHL considers the bar for star in the NHL is
1:11:26
Speaker 4: not the same as other leagues. But there will be
1:11:29
Speaker 4: a significant piece added to this team. And I I
1:11:33
Speaker 4: don't think I'm gonna I'm gonna call my shot now.
1:11:38
Speaker 4: He's not gonna sign Alice Tuck.
1:11:40
Speaker 3: I don't think he is either because I.
1:11:41
Speaker 4: Don't as just not gonna go to ten plus million.
1:11:44
Speaker 4: I just can't see it.
1:11:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, after what we saw with that Saravali quote there
1:11:49
Speaker 2: about he's not budging, you know, if he wants to
1:11:52
Speaker 2: take a hometown discount, like if Tuck wants anything more
1:11:54
Speaker 2: than a eight and a half or nine, I don't
1:11:55
Speaker 2: want any part of it.
1:11:56
Speaker 4: But I think I could get there at nine and
1:11:58
Speaker 4: a half. I don't love it, but I can understand.
1:12:00
Speaker 4: But I just I if he wants ten plus, it's
1:12:02
Speaker 4: not going to be here, and it shouldn't be here.
1:12:05
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna go with a significant trade is going
1:12:07
Speaker 4: to be made and Alex Tuck will be a seattle cracking.
1:12:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say Seattle, Vancouver, Calgary. One of
1:12:15
Speaker 3: those teams.
1:12:16
Speaker 4: Is gonna Jesus.
1:12:18
Speaker 2: Would would offer him the big contract, or maybe I
1:12:21
Speaker 2: don't know, one of them, maybe even San Jose could
1:12:23
Speaker 2: if they make a move for that. Again, we're all
1:12:26
Speaker 2: we're talking, you know, just pipeline stuff here, but if
1:12:29
Speaker 2: Alex Duck wants to capitalize on his final contract, it's
1:12:32
Speaker 2: probably not going to be in Buffalo, and all the
1:12:34
Speaker 2: power to him there. So uh, austin another season of
1:12:36
Speaker 2: Sabers Semantics seven, seventh year doing the show, and we
1:12:39
Speaker 2: finally had stuff to talk about post the first week
1:12:43
Speaker 2: of April.
1:12:43
Speaker 3: So it was a lot of fun.
1:12:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it was a lot of fun and hopefully
1:12:48
Speaker 4: not hopefully we'll do we'll do one more piece before
1:12:50
Speaker 4: the actual offseason kicks off, but hopefully by then, either
1:12:54
Speaker 4: a trade has been made or we kind of have
1:12:56
Speaker 4: some news to talk about, because as much as I
1:12:59
Speaker 4: love the NHL, I do not care who they picking
1:13:01
Speaker 4: the first round.
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Speaker 3: This year, or it could be see you later getting
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Speaker 3: moved at the door.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, So we'll be back for an offseason update obviously,
1:13:10
Speaker 2: between the draft and free agency, who knows, we'll see
1:13:12
Speaker 2: if the Sabers have anything playing. You know, the draft
1:13:14
Speaker 2: is in Buffalo as well, so look forward to that.
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Speaker 2: The combines coming up next weekend in Buffalo as well.
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Speaker 2: That's another thing that they always want to do when
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Speaker 2: you're hosting the draft as well. Right, so maybe Yarmo
1:13:30
Speaker 2: pulls a big one in the out of the hat
1:13:32
Speaker 2: in that one as well. So again that's it for
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