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Nate Thompson on his mental health journey: A great Stanley Cup Final rematch, the Sabres struggle and Jason's review of Conclave. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart Podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: It is indeed Unscripted episode number three coming at you again.
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  Speaker 1: I heard podcast Subscribe, rate and review and Dello wherever
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  Speaker 1: you may get your podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the beginning of a new journey. But
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  Speaker 2: we had a special moment last week.
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  Speaker 1: Last week there was a moment where I knew, I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I made a friend here in Jason Devers.
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  Speaker 1: It was when he said him and his brother used
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  Speaker 1: to watch Dog Day Afternoon, which is one of my
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  Speaker 1: all time favorite movies. And I teased did last week.
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  Speaker 1: So let me just pay off the teas because I
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  Speaker 1: know there's people in the hundreds who've been waiting for
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  Speaker 1: this moment. So when divers are yelling Attika, Attica, you like,
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  Speaker 1: I go.
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  Speaker 2: I know. So Pacinto told the story. He said he
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  Speaker 2: was on set.
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  Speaker 1: All it says is Sonny words, it yells, and the
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  Speaker 1: assistant director, Bert Harris Turner goes ol say Attica, and
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  Speaker 1: Patino goes what and he goes say Attica and he
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  Speaker 1: goes Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So he goes out there and he's just.
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  Speaker 1: Attica, and a couple of guys kind of look over
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  Speaker 1: like what he says is Attika, and they're like, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Akaino had no idea what it was a famous prison
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  Speaker 1: ride at the time where the where the inmates took
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  Speaker 1: umbrage against the guards at a big shoot up, big explosion,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like it was like a rallying quiet
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  Speaker 2: for the little guys. I was like, aca Anka. One
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  Speaker 2: of the great moments of every movie history, dimmersed awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, one of the great movies. One of the great actors,
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  Speaker 3: al Pacino. I like him and Duncacinos too.
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  Speaker 1: Jack and Jill, which in his incredible book he released
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  Speaker 1: this year called Sonny Boy. He admitted in the book
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  Speaker 1: he said, here's what happened. He goes, I got ripped off.
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  Speaker 1: It directly led to Jack and Jill. He goes, let's
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  Speaker 1: be clear. He goes, Adam Sandler is a great guy,
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, I ended up becoming friends with them,
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  Speaker 1: But I would not do that film. I'm doing Donnie Brasco,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing Scarfies. I'm not gonna do Jack and Jill,
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  Speaker 1: which that was the reference he did Dunccino as the
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  Speaker 1: other way Pacino is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great scene and awesome. It's a ridiculous movie.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he did Jack and Jill. Oh God, that
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  Speaker 1: was okay, God awful. Let's get to what we really
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  Speaker 1: want to talk. We're gonna discuss God awful, which is
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Sabers. We're gonna discuss the rangers that make
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  Speaker 1: it moves. We're gonna give love to a Nepo baby
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  Speaker 1: who's an all time great broadcaster. But what everyone's really
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  Speaker 1: talking about, JD is drones here in New Jersey. What's
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  Speaker 1: going on with these drones?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if this podcast sees the light of day, we
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  Speaker 3: don't know what's gonna happen. Now that and our producers
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  Speaker 3: camera's certain to go fuzzy. Now they're talking about drones, tal,
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  Speaker 3: it's certain to go fuzzy. So they're trying to cancel
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  Speaker 3: the stream here. But I mean, yeah, there's been drones
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  Speaker 3: all over New York and New Jersey, apparently from my
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  Speaker 3: findings in my readings on the dark Web, which I
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  Speaker 3: don't tell I won't tell you how I got on there, but.
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  Speaker 2: But somebody's warned me. They said, listen to Demur is
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a conspiracy theorist.
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  Speaker 3: But go ahead, Yes, well, I'm a truth teller, truth seeker.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when all your conspiracies turned true, then are
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  Speaker 3: you con there is good point now? Well, December second,
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  Speaker 3: there was some radioactive material that went missing. They came
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  Speaker 3: into the Port of Newark. Since then, they've been finding
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  Speaker 3: those drones has been more and more. They're flying in
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  Speaker 3: a grid like pattern, so they're searching for something. They're
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  Speaker 3: sniffing for something. I hope it's gone, and I hope
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  Speaker 3: it's in, you know, not around here. I won't I
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  Speaker 3: won't say where, but I hope they got rid of
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  Speaker 3: it and it's gone. But yeah, there's been some's it's
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  Speaker 3: been wild to see the lights going at night and
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  Speaker 3: you see I was I've seen one and I was
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  Speaker 3: with Catherine Tappan and she said they're like she saw
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  Speaker 3: like ten of them over her house.
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  Speaker 1: This is like I seen it in a close Encounters
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  Speaker 1: the third kind. Do you think do you think they're aliens?
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  Speaker 2: Is it China? Is a Russia? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: US government's flying that that stuff? Because the fact that
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  Speaker 3: they haven't said anything is like, yeah, it's probably the
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  Speaker 3: US government, but I don't know what they're doing it for.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty wild because people are seeing some crazy, crazy,
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  Speaker 3: crazy stuff in the air with these drones flying at night,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know why they'd fly in the day.
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  Speaker 3: It's be easier to see for the drone pilots. But hey, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Nate Thomps is gonna be our special guest. It's
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  Speaker 1: coming a couple of later on. Nate's got a wonderful backstory.
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  Speaker 1: He's really overcome a lot. So I real look forward
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  Speaker 1: to talking to Nate and there may be some more
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  Speaker 1: developments he's making with NHL, and iHeart as well.
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  Speaker 2: But let's get to the hockey.
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  Speaker 4: JD.
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  Speaker 2: You're well traveled. You know the terrain of North America.
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  Speaker 1: I'd never been as a kid who was born in Toronto,
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  Speaker 1: grew up in Kingston, never been to Northern Albert, never
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  Speaker 1: been to Deadmonton until this past week Prime Monday night
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  Speaker 1: hockey oil.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you were how was that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Fifty one degrees in Jersey. Granted we have drones
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  Speaker 2: Edmonton one degree plenty on the ground. When someone said, Jay,
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  Speaker 2: when someone says to you, hey, the best thing is
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to leave the hotel. You can go
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  Speaker 2: right to the arena. Through the hotel. That's the endorsement.
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  Speaker 3: It's the tunnels. It's the mole people Edmonton and Winnipeg.
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  Speaker 3: It's just tunnel people. Do you live inside a tunnel
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  Speaker 3: for the winter time? You should have told me they have. Honestly, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: some of the best restaurants and in the NHL is
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  Speaker 3: in Edmonton Uclinos. I think they rebranded it. But also
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  Speaker 3: they have some amazing Italian great steakhouses. Really a restaurant,
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  Speaker 3: a restaurant called meat which which listen, don't judge the name.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the best barbecue I've had, fantastic barbecue.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Edmonton underrated, culinary city.
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  Speaker 3: Cherry cherry glazed, baby back ribs.
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  Speaker 5: Oh whoo, I.
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  Speaker 3: Want my baby back, baby back, baby back ribs.
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  Speaker 1: It definitely was a Game of the Year candidate. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure how much time you had to be able
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  Speaker 1: to watching tier game. It's entiretyme six to five game, dude,
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  Speaker 1: firewagon hockey eighties style. I'm there with Mark Massey. I
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm at North Lean's Coliseum. And for the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers to show that kind of resolved without Barkoff, as
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  Speaker 1: you know, they'd been shut out in back to back games,
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  Speaker 1: oily been shut out in three straight games once in
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  Speaker 1: club history, putting up six going down against Stuart Skinner.
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  Speaker 2: Hell of a game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great game. I again, it felt
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  Speaker 3: like the playoffs last year in the finals, because you
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  Speaker 3: felt like Edmonton carried the play for the majority of
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  Speaker 3: the game, but yet somehow came out on the wrong
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  Speaker 3: end and same kind of things plagued them. A couple
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  Speaker 3: of turnovers, Bouchard makes a big one and he's been
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  Speaker 3: good all year, and then obviously they score that weird
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  Speaker 3: goal from behind the net, and they just seem to
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  Speaker 3: find a way to win. And then the worst of
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  Speaker 3: it for Edmonton Oilers fans is Sergei Bobrovski, who didn't
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  Speaker 3: have a great game mhm with ten seconds left, just
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  Speaker 3: ten bells saved, no stick, probably gave everybody a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of PTSD because it was that dirty blocker save
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  Speaker 3: that he did on him, and he does it on
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  Speaker 3: dry Cidle in the dying embers of the game, And honestly, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you feel for the Edmundton Others fans. It's a little
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  Speaker 3: concerning for me. We talked about it tonight on the
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  Speaker 3: NHL Network micro it's a little concerning that. That's the
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  Speaker 3: way they lost. They got pushed around again a little
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  Speaker 3: bit in the third period. I didn't like what I
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  Speaker 3: saw from Skinner on that that goal from behind the
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  Speaker 3: net where he yeah, he gets run over, but he's
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  Speaker 3: sitting up like you know, his visor's askew and he's
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: staring at the ref looking for a call, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to get a call like that come
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  Speaker 3: playoff times. So we get up and kind of get
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: on the back check and it's it's it's a tough
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: one because they did it all playoffs. They were the
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were the better team for majority that
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  Speaker 3: that that final Stanley Cup Finals, and they were the
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  Speaker 3: majority better team during this game, and they somehow find
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  Speaker 3: a way to lose it. And on the flip side,
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  Speaker 3: Florida and no Barkoff comes out, hangs in there six '
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  Speaker 3: five against a very dynamic and it's a team who's
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  Speaker 3: been really hot of late and just finds a way
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  Speaker 3: to go in there and win.
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  Speaker 1: I had a great conversation pal Marie, he w's gonna
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  Speaker 1: sit down that morning and you did. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: great eight and a half minutes, Like mo is as
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  Speaker 1: good as it gets he's candid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so candid, and say.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: Candid, funny, insightful.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about that when he finally won, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, you know, next year, if things keep going
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: the way they're going, you're gonna have coach over two
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: thousand games, only you and Scotti Boehmer in that territory.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, man, I'm feeling pretty close to flying
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  Speaker 1: to the sun here, and this guy's got nine Stanley Cups.
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  Speaker 1: But I said that moment Moen, you won, and he said,
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  Speaker 1: you you're surrounded about all the people you love, all
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: the hard work, all the sacrifice.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: I said, but you were up three to zero.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: You guys almost gag this thing. I said, like, how
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: did you able to keep your resolve? And he goes,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: the key is you have to find some positivity. And
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: the game five of that Cup final, we actually played great.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: And I had to tell the guys, I know we've
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  Speaker 1: lost re shut but game five we actually played really well,
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  Speaker 1: might have been our best game of the series.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you can, but let's try
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  Speaker 2: to have fun with it.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to explain, like, hey, if I just WLD
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  Speaker 1: you one game, you win the Stanley Cup.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: That's hip to focus.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: You can't look at we could be the first team
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  Speaker 1: ever in history to lose four straight.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: We can't lose a three elite et cetera. And he goes, listen,
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: it was a two to one game.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: We had like nineteen icings in the third periods, but
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: we've somehow found a way. But that was that was
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: that positive. And I'm not sure if you believe in
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: that necessarily.
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  Speaker 2: But that's how he said. They stayed the ship. Quite
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  Speaker 2: frankly for the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: Kudos to them for getting it done. They don't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: everybody just cares about the last game you win. That's
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  Speaker 3: the most important one. And it was game seven for him.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: So whether they won in seven or four, I think
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: it's a Cup's a cup in my book, So.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with it.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a hell of a game to watch
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: those two teams again, it makes you think about the
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  Speaker 1: likelihood a potential Cup Finals rematch, first since Pittsburgh and
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: Detroit and Oh nine, just the third time in the
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  Speaker 1: last forty one years.
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  Speaker 2: Rarely, if ever, happens. I don't think it'll.
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  Speaker 1: Happen personally, but the way those teams played it was
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  Speaker 1: I can't see it right to many other teams in
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  Speaker 1: the mix.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you want to think so much has to go
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: right for you. And I feel like that was such
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: an anomaly that Pittsburgh Detroit year, and I can't see
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: it happening this year because they do think there's some
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: teams that are really poised. You know, the Dallas Star
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: seem really as you watch them playing the utinger of
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: it all, and they just seem to get these young
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: guys that come up and immediately produce. And I don't
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: know if Stuart Skinner can carry him through.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: Again, not the answer, Go get Cam Talbot.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not listening. I'm not saying I like that, I
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  Speaker 1: like fear. I'm just saying Stuart Skinners.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like the Flex Seal commercial.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: Bang, Stuart Skinner's not the answer. He's not gonna I like.
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  Speaker 3: I love stew he battles hard. I just think over,
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: you know, can he have the same success he did
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs, And again he didn't have great success.
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: Calvin Pickard had to come in and have possibly the
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: biggest game of that playoff series against Vancouver because they
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: were kind of all but but done and and and
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: we're just not playing the right way, and Picks came
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: in and kind of stole that game against Van. I
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: think it was game it might have been game four
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: or five. Uh, and then that was just kind of
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: all she wrote for Vancouver. So I know, Skinner, Yeah,
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: I just don't think you do again. I think I
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: think the West has some big teams coming out. You know,
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: Vegas looks unbelievable. Winnipeg it's murderers row more so than
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: you know. Last year, I thought there was an easy
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: I kind of tweeted and said before the playoffs said,
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: I said, Edmonton's got the best path to the finals.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to see an easy path
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  Speaker 3: this year. I think it's going to be just eight dogs.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: Right right, right, right right, speaking of dog day afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to the Sabers and the absolute disarrayed
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  Speaker 1: that that team is currently enduring.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say one more thing. I want
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: to say one more Marie.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Story ye because I said, and this was before the
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: term was coined, but you were mister irrelevant. Nineteen eighty
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: five NHL draft, Wendell Clark was number one, Palm Race
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  Speaker 1: was number two, fifty two, the last.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Guy and he starts laughing.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Is again, definitely some Flyer scouts were fired over that decision,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: I said, but seriously, tell me, I said, back then, right,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: there's not NHL Draft conference kind of He goes, listen,
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: my mom is listening to the radio in the Sioux
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: and I used to play like house league.
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  Speaker 2: Like I was fine.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: I was, okay, my dad's got you're a good player
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: because my mom is listening everything. Thirty minutes and then
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: you called me eleven fifteen and I'm at the bar
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: with my buddy. He's the guy you got drafted. I
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: go what you got drafted? With the Flyers, And very
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: quickly I was like the Flyers, they're really good and
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: it's really late, Like, am I like the last guy?
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: I hope that wasn't the second last guy? So as
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: bad as that night, everything he had to do last.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: He was the last guy to order a beer, he
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: was the last guy to hit a cabin.
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, because he just he wanted to do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's hilarious.
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: Paul.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Paul, I have a bet I'm gonna
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: want up Paul Maurice. So I got drafted in the
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: seventh round, one of the sixth when I was twenty,
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: so that was probably you tabulate the rounds. And you know,
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: we were watching the draft for a friend of mine
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: and it came to the seventh round and my dad was,
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: you know, on the computer or Dell whatever, Mac, whatever, HP.
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: It was before Maxim and he's refreshing the computer to
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: see who's coming, and it like you'd see each name
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: kind of come down. It would just get loaded in.
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: It looked like an Excel spreadsheet. And all of a sudden,
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: where he's going on and he sees Jaye demurz he
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: sees Jada Murry and he falls out of his chair
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: and it's just it was the San Jose Sharks and
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: he falls out of his chair and he goes, oh
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: my god, he got drafted. And we're like what what what?
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  Speaker 3: We come to fight out? It's they drafted Julian Demurs
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  Speaker 3: from the Ottawa sixty from from the Ottawa sixty sevens
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  Speaker 3: Julian demurz uh And you know, the complete opposite of
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: me in terms of I mean, they'll they'll edit the
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: z but he was an African American kid as well.
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  Speaker 3: So Julian, I'm.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Knocking at this South that's staying it because that is no,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: there's something racist about that.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: He's no, yeah, he's an Africa. I'm with you. I
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: got my garden with you. Uh no, so I and
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: he played for the Autawa sixty sevens at the time,
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: if I remember, great guy, good good defenseman too. And
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: then we get a phone call from San Jose and
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: they're like, hey, we're going to draft you and like
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: two more picks and I was Santjose's last pick of
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: the draft, like at one eighty six, and I was like, oh,
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: this is like you didn't draft me. So I'm like
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get drafted. And now we found out after
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: it's Julian Demurs. So we went to camp and it
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: was like Julian Demurs. Jason mrs is like the Spider
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: Man meme of like, hey you're Jada Murse, I'm Jada
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  Speaker 3: Murris and yeah, and he was I think he was
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  Speaker 3: number sixty one in camp and I was sixty when
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: he was a left handed defenseman. I was a right
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: handed defenseman.
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  Speaker 1: So it was literally it is like a spot to
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: man meme. I just shocked de Marris was coaching. Of course,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: then it really made things.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wonderful. That was low hanging fruit there. We'd better
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: than that. You start with the Maurice junk and then
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: you kind of bring that. Paul Marie, you're a Paul
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Maurice bandwagon guy speaking. I love I love Paul. I
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: think that most a great guy. Yeah, I've heard only
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: great things.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers are not hearing great things right now. Complete disarray,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: eleven straight losses. They enter Thursday's Action after losing to
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: the Maple Leafs. Sabers heads coach Lindy rob said, I'm
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: almost at a loss for words.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: This is the toughest solve I've been around.
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: I'm almost lost for words. Obviously, it's all me to
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: solve this. This is the toughest solve I've been around.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: But it is.
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: It's on me to get these guys in the right
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: place and win a hockey game, and nobody else just
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: made thanks.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Sabers owner Terry Pagoula love the fact daughter, by the way,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: great tennis player, but cool and GM Kevin Adams reportedly
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: then met with the team to tell players that.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: They believed in them.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: The Sabers respond to that show of conference begetting blown
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: out in Montreal Tuesday night, Jay, we know the great
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: people of Western New York. We know how much they
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: love the Buffalo Sabers. They are waiting for their moment.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: There's been bad personnel decisions. Jack eye call trade.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: They had Lina Slimark on the team at one point.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: We can go through the whole thing.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Ol Mark O'Reilly, Ryan Hirt right Ryer, Jack Eicel, Jack
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: eye call trade horrific.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: How do you solve this tire fire in Buffalo?
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: I there's so many thoughts of anger towards that, not
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: at first the players, because you know, and I'm a
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: team I'm a player forward guy. Like as an analyst,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: I always like to see the silver lining. But when
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: you get a goddamn vote of confidence, and when you
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: should not get a vote of confidence because you have
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: not pissed a drop all year. You know, there's not
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: even a drop of sweat out there from these guys,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: you know, from a lot of them. I'm not gonna
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: say everybody, because I do think it's not one guy, like, yeah,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: I mean Tage's Tage. He's gonna do good things. They
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: still think Tage can do more, you know, And I
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: skate with him in the summer, and I would kind
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: of tell him. I think there's more for him to give.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: But I just think the showing that they gave in
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: that Montreal game, down two nothing in the first nine
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: shots to two did not even they weren't even skating.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: It's crazy to me that you would go in there
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: basically get guaranteed job security, you know, you know, and
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: sometimes you know I say that, but you know, I've
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: been there where a coach or gms like clean Slate
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and then I get traded the next day. That happened
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: with me Dale Talon, So you know, for me, I'm like, Okay, yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: you know, they're they're being really positive with us, but
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: to go out and give that showing is just a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: spit in the face of of the g M and
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: you know, Pagoula. But on the flip side, Kevin Adams
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: needs to do way more. Uh.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I think he's though they made some bad moves and
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I think he's scared that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: That's where they're at right now is they're like, well,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: do we trade Taje Thompson or Owen Power and then
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: they go out and be a superstar, which you know
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: can happen because there's a lot of talent on that team. Uh.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: But I just don't love I didn't love the Lindy
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Rough hiring. I like Lindy Ruff. I had him as
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: a coach. We had our differences, but he got a
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: lot out of me that the games passed them by.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: But it's just well, yeah, you're just trying to rinse
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: and repeat. I don't know if it's so tough when
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: you're like the games, you know, because it's like, you know,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: we have to be unscripted. So I'm like, yeah, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: just think he I just think he wasn't the right
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: higher for that team. Like I just think it was
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: not they needed a whip cracker. They needed somebody to
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: come in and beat the crag. They need like Craig
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: one of those types of guy. Yes, they needed a
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Tortorella or not a Hitchcock. Hitchcock stinks, but but may think.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: It's just a difficult guy, disciplaria.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: No hit, which is hit no, no, not hit. I'm
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: just saying he was not going to be a very
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: had a great career, but no, I think I think
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: torts or a Berube would have been perfect for them.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if he would have taken that job,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if this is I wrote.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Jim Montgomery is another one would have been a great
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: pickup for them, and there's a lot of talent on
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: that team. I'll finish it by saying that there's a
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: lot of talent. There's a lot of players on the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: team that are superstars, cusp superstars that they someone needs
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: to grab it by the reins in that locker room
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: and change the culture fast.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: One more topic, then we're gonna get to Nate Thompson.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: This week saw the arrival the NHL Mobile refrigeration truck
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: at Wrigley. They're getting ready for the discovered NHL Winter Classic.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Blues and Blackhawks. I'm not gonna get the Winter Classic, though.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: What I want to ask is this, We've seen these
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: types of ideas. Some would call them gimmicks, just things
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to kind of freshen up the regular season. The NBA
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: just closed out the NBA Cup, which I think is
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: absolutely dreadful. I have I have no interest because to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: be a cup, I go, why would I care? But
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: do you think hockey could use something like this? Are
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you a fan of the NBA Cup?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen a sports team
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: to almost as dumb as this Golden Bat role that's
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: coming out.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: That's the when happened. Baseball's discussed it talking out.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: But you're right, yeah, but when you're even that that
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: was considered. You know, here's the thing, Like we talked
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: about it a little bit today to kind of just
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: texting back and forth about you know, our thoughts and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: since I've been on the other side of this, seeing
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the fandom for what it is and being an analyst
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: and seeing how much goes into the production for the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: players to produce the play, produce you know, the product
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: that's on the ice. I mean, it's just like NBA
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: guys like for them to be giving what a million
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: dollar bonus, yeah, to win this thing, to not do
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: load management because they're tired of get you know, getting
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: sore legs and you're getting paid one hundred and twenty
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: million dollars and you're telling me you you need more
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: incentive to play a professional sport.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And that's what I say it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Down to, not to say basketballs Listen. I get it,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: you're trying to preserve longevity in your career to maximize
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: your earnings. Hey, listen, do what you got to do.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: But to sit there and be like, oh, now you're
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: gonna try. Now you're gonna you know, I've used piss
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: a drop. Now you're gonna piss the drop that there's
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: a million dollar bonus prize. So you need more money,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you need to incentivized that. Well, you can't play for
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia the fan showing. And why I say that is,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I use the term it's you know, it's
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: a fickle relationship between fans and players because again, fans
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: are the reason that you're making the money you're making.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: You can say it's ownership, you can say the one.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: They're the ones that pay your bills. The only reason
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: ownership is able to pay your bills is because revenue,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: TV deals, concessions, ticket sales, which all is generated from
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the fans. Eyeballs on the screens equals dollars in the puckets.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: They're spending their harder and money where they can go
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: spend anywhere else if they wanted to, but they're doing
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it on you, you know, and this kind of just
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: goes full circle to just play every game, or try
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to play every game, you know, just don't be a
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: little say it s. Don't be a little bitch. We'll
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: find out talented editists or not, we're gonna find out
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: run we're unscripted.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I know that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Hey, we're unscripted. So you want a couple hundred followers,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get it. We support our fans.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Jason Deversus made it clear the NHL does not need
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a mid season tournament period.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: If you want an NBA Cup, the NHL beat it well.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: For listen, four nations. That's great, great thing they put
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: on the NHL. Fantastic, good job. I love it well.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Four nations, that's listen, that's that's that's playing for the
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: country of the country. No, if they put like a
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: mini tournament in hockey, I'd be like, kick rocks down
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: the street, don't come back, because why it's you see
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: how hard NHL hockey players play.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: You see it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: You see how hard guys block shot. You saw Zach
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: him and take one off the schnaz and and come
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: back literally fourve shifts later, playing with the visor.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Hymen look broken but unbound as he was able to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: come back still to come here on NHLU scripted, get
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: closer to your Nate Thomson, who looks legit?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Who are the contenders? Who are the pretenders?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: In this sport of hockey, plus very candidate about mental health,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: his journey, and also conversion of Judaism. All the Jews
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: in the NHL stand up the highm that's coming up next.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: A pleasure to bring in our special guest. You're an
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: episode number three of Unscripted. He was drafted in the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: sixth round of the two thousand and three NHL Draft,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: played eight hundred and forty four NHL games with nine
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: teams before retiring in twenty twenty three. Ladies and gentlemen,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it is Nate Thompson. Tom It is great to see you.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us here for a
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: few minutes. This is going to be a fascinating conversation.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Talk about your mental health journey, talk about your conversion
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of Judaism.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: We'll do some quick questions around the horn, but.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I want to start with just what's happened this season
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: so far on the NHL and Jane I didn't have
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a chance to really get into too much of the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: New York Rangers. We did in our previous episode, But
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: what the name of Coppo Coco is happening on Broadway?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: How has this team gone from a President Shrophy winner
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to a real mess right now.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Your thoughts, Well, first off, it's good to be here
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: with both of you guys. It's really nice being here.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: And what is it, I don't know what night it is,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: but it's nice to see you when tonight drone to
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: night and then to the Rangers state of emergency in
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: New York. I mean, it's you can't really blame one guy,
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: it's everybody. And I think it starts from the top down.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think it's the play, just the players.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: I think there's something else up top that is festering
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: all the way down to their team and you're kind
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: of seeing it. I mean, it's just been one disaster
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: after another. And I mean I watch them and it
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: looks like they almost look disinterested some games, Like it's
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: like they don't want to play defense, they don't want
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: to back check, they don't want to play they don't
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: want to play hockey, which is hard. Hockey is a
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: hard game to play. And that's what I see. I mean,
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: I know, I'm sure you guys see the same thing
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: and just different, yeah, different verbiage, but it's it's tough
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: to watch.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: What's what you know, A veteran of your stature and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: how many years he had in the league. What do
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: you sees as kind of the quick fix? I know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: the trade of Cocko for Will Borgan, which kind of
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: fills a little bit of holes on the D side,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: But like, what do you think it is? Is it
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: coaching that needs to change? Does Drury need to kind
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: of maybe potentially go or is it something culture based
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: that's like crept in. But I agree with you initial
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: sentiment that it's top down. But I don't know what's
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the quick fix.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, the quick fix obviously would be the coach, right,
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, that would be the quickest thing. That seems
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: to be the quickest fix every team does. I guess
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: that would be the solution. But at the same time, Jady,
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: you know well you and you and I both know
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: well it's it comes within the room first. And I
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: don't know what they need to do. I mean, this
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: team was a year removed from winning the presence and
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: now they're you know, they can't win a game right now,
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: and if they do, they're barely winning that game. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: I guess it's the coach and it's in that room.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, do they need to make another big trade
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: is that going to fix everything? I don't know, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: I mean they just did make a big trade with
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: their captain, so who knows. I mean, I think it's
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: in that room and we'll see how they get it done.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'll think of a long road ahead, it feels like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: right now for the Rangers. But we want to talk
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: specifically to you, Nate about your own journey. And you've
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: been very candid speaking about mental health in relation to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: pressure of the NHL. I think it's brave of you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and it's courageous. I'm sure it's helped innumerable people. How
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: much apprehension did you have prior to first discussing it publicly?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: A ton?
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: I mean, I remember when I was playing and talking
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: about it and some of my struggles.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: It was at first, it was very hard for me.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: I wasn't sure if I wanted to talk about it,
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: and then you know, talking about it with other people beforehand,
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: I realized that it's kind of bigger than me. It's
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: bigger than us, you know, And it was one of
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: those things where if I talked about it, then maybe
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: I could help one person that was feeling the same
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: way or thinking the same way.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of how it started.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: And then you know, even now post career, I've been
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: speaking a little bit more about it, and you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: I've been getting messages from people sometimes where it's like, hey,
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: I'm feeling the same way, you know, or you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: just because you said that, I wasn't sure how to
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: how to feel and now I know exactly how you feel,
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: you know. And it was just kind of that familiarity
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: with people and knowing that it's okay to feel bad
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: one day. You know, it's okay for someone to ask you, hey,
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: how you doing You're like not so good, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: instead of saying I'm fine, I'm okay, you.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Know, when really you're not.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: And I think it's maybe just getting that narrative out
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: there where people can be like.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm having a bad week.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: I'm having a really bad week, and I'm like, oh, okay,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: well that's good. Thanks for being honest, you know. And
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: it's as simple as that, I think, and getting that
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: out there talking about.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: It more just it just helps.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Is there a moment or like a person that you
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: had in your life that kind of pushed you to
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: finally kind of really talk about it, because because listen,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I dealt with it like crazy. Performance anxiety led me
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to a lot of drugs and alcohol and painkills, pain
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: coats because I didn't want to lose being in the NHL.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: And I kind of, like you said, you said something
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: that resonated with me is it's just like saying hey,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: every day I was like, oh, I'm good, I'm good.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Everything's great, I feel great, I'm good when I wasn't,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and it just compounds, and it compounds, and I needed
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: somebody to be like, hey, you're not good, like talk
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: about it, and that would have probably sparked me quicker.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: You know, Now everything's is great and good, But was
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: there somebody that or like a moment in time where
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: it just kind of where like I really need to
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: kind of seek out my own health benefits and not
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: health benefits but my own mental clarity and really fix this.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, when I was playing in Anaheim almost ten years ago,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: I had a problem. I was, you know, like you said,
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: drinking everything. And there was a moment where Ryan Getz
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: laugh looked at me and said to me, Nate, are
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: you okay? And it was like, you know, it was
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: a question where you know, he wasn't asking me, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: what's going on that day. It was like you could
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: tell he was like, are you okay? And I was not,
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: And I said to him I was, but it like
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: stuck with me and it hit me in my in
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: my gut, like I am not okay and I need
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: to get some help. And I remember that till the
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: day I die. And that was kind of a moment
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: that really kind of changed the course of my life
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: and direction. And I knew that, like, all right, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: got a problem. I need to get some help and
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: I need to figure this out. And that was a
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: big moment for me.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Talk right now with Nate Thompson about his journey in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the NHL and the battles off the ice as well.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing your conversion to Judaism. Right now,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it's the golden age of Jews in the NHL. My
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: dear friend Scott Rogowski used to call the NHL the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: no Hebrew League, but right now it is no longer
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that we got the Hughes brothers, Jeremy swam and Adam Fox,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Zach him and even Sharkswitch. Ryan Warsovsky is light in
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the handles right now. This Hanukah, which will be on
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Boxing Day, how did that come about? How did you
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: decide to become a Jew?
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: Well, it was a marriage. I got married and that's
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: that's that's how that happened. You know, when you you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: you just say yes and you you do what you're.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Told, right JD.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: You know, oh it goes That's that's certainly how it goes. Yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: if my wife had a religion she created, I would
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I would be in there. I would certainly be how
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: it went.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and I was was around it all the time.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: And at the time, we were thinking about raising our
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: kids and if if they if we did, we were
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: going to raise them Jewish because her family was Jewish
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: and I mean just the overall the family. How it's
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: very family oriented. And I just kind of grew to
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: liking to it. And when we got married, I converted.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: And the rest is history.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: And and fun fact, my and Hebrew name is Naton.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: So when I was playing in l A, that's when
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: I was you know, I went through the conversion and
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: so the boys were all calling me Naton after that
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: for a while, like.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: That was that was a nickname. Naton.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: So okay, how about the Golden Age of Jews right
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: now in the NHL, like that's pretty it is.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: And even you even added a guy named Jeremy Swayman.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: He's from He's from my hometown too, He's from Alaska.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Adam Fox you said, did you say Adam.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Foxox is another one? Hymen?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: What? Uh? Yeah, I'm in Yeah, i'man. I mean, I
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: mean I was. I'm on my Wikipedia page.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: People think that is Jewish.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was like he's not Jewish. When I
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: was in San Jose, uh, we thought for a minute.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: My my dad never knew his father, and his mother
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: passed away and I can tell the story now, but
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: on his death, on her deathbed, he asked her what nationality,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: who's my dad? This and that? And she said he's
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: a Jewish businessman. So we thought we were Jewish for
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: three four years until my dad was like, I got
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: to figure this out and got a twenty three and
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: me not an ounce of heritage in US. We're Greek
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: and Italian, all right.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: A little rapid fire with Nate.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: We closed nine different teams and some of the great
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: cities in Anchel, including Los Angeles, Montreal, Philadelphia, and Tampa's.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Here we go, Nate, don't forget, don't forget. In the Bakersfield,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Ontario connection.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Who could we ever forget? Best food?
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Best food?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: What city?
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Montreal?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Ah, well done? Which restaurant? What's your restaurant? You remember
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Joe Beef? You hit it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Joe Beef is good, but I was a big Rubens. No, uh,
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: why can't it? Italian place?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, Emma, Emma was good, but there was another one.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I can't remember it. Oh my gosh, it's gonna bother me.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: The Emma is really good though.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was a women's prison.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that before that. Yeah, she did not
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: know that. This guy just fun facts all over the place.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Craziest fans got to be Philadelphia, tough, Winnipeg, Winnipeg or Philly.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, Winnipeg, that's a that's a hot take. That's
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: no no, but like that's I would not have guessed
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: that over Philly because Philly is nuts. But Winnipeg, hey.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: When I yeah, but I'll put Philly first. You're right,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Winnipeg is up there though, all right.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Worst traffic Los Angeles, I.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Mean yeah, la oh, that's got awful.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I was in it today, Yeah, I mean it's every day.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: What was your commute to the rink how long?
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: Well, today was where I'm living now, it's like an
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: hour this morning it was an hour. But when I
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: was living over there by the rink, I was it
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: was like fifteen minutes. And I was living by the beach.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Her most sat heard of it, that community and her
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: mosa with these kings, guys, you would not believe this
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: ad And then yeah, you wake up in the morning
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: and it's like and they're just all outside with beers
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: on the street corner.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Did you hear another guy?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: It's hilarious. They like all live like a block for
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: each other. It's like twenty of them. Yeah, So have
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: you ever need to hang out with some of you
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: just like poke your head out the window and you're like, oh,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: there's Greener, Matt Green cracking a beer at eight in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: the morning.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Walk everywhere, golf carts.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's yeah, it's a.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Vibe or most of to go meet some kings. How
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: about the most polite people.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Let's go with uh, let's go with Winnipeg, Canada again.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good people, best home locker room.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Now, I have to think there's a lot of teams
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: to think about, you know.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Journeyman it's a lot of teams.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Nine teams are going through the role. It's a lot
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of locker.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Rooms, you know, Montreal.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I have one because we've kind of both you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: we did quite a few teams. Uh, what is like
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: one packing technique you picked up over the years as
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: as somebody that's kind of you know, been around. We've
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: been journeymen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: Oh for sure, like rolling T shirts and like like
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: maximizing space the biggest thing.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: And I'm I was a guy too. Whenever I got
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: to the hotel.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know how you guys are, but I unpack everything,
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: mainly immediately unpack everything, put my bag away, like hang
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: up everything.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Let's get comfortable, guys, like this is going to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: home for a little bit.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you got to use that like old sixteen
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: from the sixteen hundreds victorian drawer, just open it up.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: And I never and I never.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys, I'm a little bit
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: of a so playing with Teddy Purcell.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: He was my roommate. JD knows this guy.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Oh god, the you two are roommates. Yeah, we were roommates.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I wonder you sought out mental health.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: We were roommates.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: For like, yeah, I don't know, however, long in Tampa
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: and he's kind of a germophobe, and so we he
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: looked up and found that like if you leave your
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: bag or your clothes on the floor, who knows, bugs whatever,
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: So we would always put I always put my bag
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: above on something like never on the ground ever, just
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: so you guys know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's an interesting one. Yeah.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Two more for you. City where you were the most
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: anonymous as an NHL player anonymous? Yeah, you could walk
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the streets. Doone has any idea? You play in the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: NHL l.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: A and they won and they won Cups. That's what's wild.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, City where you were the least anonymous an NHL player,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to answer for you, Winnipeg.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: No trail, trail, give some respect to my city. Joe Beef,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Joe Beef, Winnipeg. You're you're all bundled up going through
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: the mold the tunnels.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: There all people ex nate.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: This was awesome, man, Seriously, thank you for the insight,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the humor, and obviously kudos for what you've done off
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the ice as well. And like I said, the way
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you've shined a light with with mental health that somebody
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: is certainly to be appreciated. And we hear maybe some
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: work coming down the tunnel here with NHL and iHeart,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: so hopefully we'll have in the family.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something coming hopefully.
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: It's uh, you know how things have to just iron
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: themselves out, as you guys know, and it'll be coming soon.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: As for ask for extra cash, all.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Right, great stuff there from Nate Thompson again, hopefully something
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: coming down the pike or NHL and iHeart, but obviously
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a great dude, Jay and somebody you obviously go back
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: with from the days of Bakersfield.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, down the pike. Did you say down the pike
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: or down the pipe?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I think I meant to say pipe, but I said Pike.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Pike unscripted, unscripted. Know's his story, his story is great.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And I got to play some golf with them this summer,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, big advocate for mental health, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, I've been getting more comfortable talking
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: about my story and it's fun to see guys like
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: that that are very candid with their story. And also
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: you know, walking the walk and talk and yeah, sorry
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: talking the talk, walking the walk, but you know, it's
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: it's just important more guys say it. You see more
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and more guys going into the program, and you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know the numbers exactly, but you know, recently
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: see a lot of guys even for stress and mental health,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and I just think it's so important to have an outlet.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: And Nate talking about Ryan getzof just looking at him
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: saying are you okay? And that could spark some change
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and at least get somebody out of a funk, because yeah,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: you're making good money and you know you're but it's
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: a tough business mentally on you and and stress and
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: with injuries and things like that and playing not playing,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: so it's it's a tough sport. And and all sports
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: are tough. And listen, you we make fun and tell
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: guys to you know, pick it up, and especially the
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: basketball guys and things like that play play for the fans.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we listen. There is a level of the
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: mental health side of it that's very important. And but
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: learning to kind of find your outlet and and talking
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: to people when you need to and making sure that
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: you check in with your teammates, but also checking with
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: yourself and make sure that you're doing good and you're
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: all copasetic.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a lot of guts.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Like you said, you may think that it's a sign
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of weakness, but it's actually a sign of strength to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: reveal what you're going through and to have that support
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: in the locker room and support throughout the NHL, which
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: has really been nice to see, and as I said,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it's been spreading throughout society as well. All Right, some
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: fun topics here before we close things up for an
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: episode three of un Scripted. Academy Awards shortlist unveiled on Tuesday,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: which was great news for Wicked and Amelia Perez, huge showing. However,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the documentary category, Christopher Reeves documentary is Superman, which is outstanding.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Continues to trend here of the Academy.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Awards, which is that they don't like these celebrity documentaries,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: meaning previously last year still on Michael J. Foxter which
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: is an incredible documentary, is available on appleplast. A lot
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: of people saw it. Who doesn't love Michael J.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Fox.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: But people just right away were like, now, the Oscars
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to reward the documentaries they get the most
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: pub Their thought is, let's give that documentary that nobody's seen,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: rather than the documentary that you might have seen, So
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Agree with that thought process.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I think Superman is a wonderful documentary and Christopher Ree
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: was a really inspirational figure.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I knew.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: We'll read a little bit his son from ESPN. He's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: a great guy. Big Rangers fan by the way.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's wild.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so hopefully people will still check out Superman
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: even though it's not nominated for the Oscars. Having said that,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Conclave is gonna do very wealthy Oscars but nominated for
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Golden globes. Ray find Stanley Tucci, you
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: saw it. I want the JD review of Conclave one
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of the year's best films.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand, and I will never
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: know how they could make poping so, you know, so exciting.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: What's the movie We're gonna search for a new Pope?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but just they made it so exciting and the
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: twists and turns of it, and obviously you know Ray
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: fines Is are He's in my top ten best of
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: all time.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I just never won an Oscar. One of the great
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: actress I never won an Oscar might.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Be so incredible. Yeah, and everything he does, and he's
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: got such a wide range too. And you know, Stanley
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Tucci didn't have as big as a role as I thought,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: but you know.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a huge Tucci guy. Wish he was little more
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: on the way, but he's great as always.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he fantastic. You know, they just did such a
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: good job of kind of portraying the how big and
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: grandiose it is in this world within you know, it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: a secondary world. It's like its own country, and you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: they have all the you know, they have more wealth
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: than anybody in the world or any country in the world.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: And the way they kind of portrayed that and also
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: portrayed the human side of all of these popes and
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: archbishops and cardinals and showed them as humans that make
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a lot of mistakes. I just thought it was really cool.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: And I loved the music. The it was quiry. It
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: almost felt like horror music, a little bit like suspense
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: thriller music for you know, again poping where they're just
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: walking around, walking from door to door and talking about
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: like are you voting for this guy? Are you voting
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: for this guy?
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I just thought it was it was really really cool
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: how they kind of put it all together.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's directed by Edward Berger, who did a great
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: job with All Quiet in the Western Front, which was
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: nominally for Best International Film and Best Pictures. A really
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: talented young director and was able to really make as
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you said, I stroyed, that's unconven rather riveting. We haven't
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: brought in producer Tally yet because we weren't sure what's Mike,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: but tell I want to bring in right now?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Have you seen conclaim? Very interested in this poping? Where
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: are you at with this movie?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen any of these they were getting.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Nora is the favorite to win Best Picture?
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Have you heard of it?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Do you know what this is about? A stripper?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I've been hearing about Honora.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been hearing about Anora a lot and I
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: haven't seen it, but that's on the list to see it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to see to see it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: I will and I'm going to see a complete unknown
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: when that comes out.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a date night and we're going to
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: check that out. We're going to check that out.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Last not on Conclave. What a right hook of an ending.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: We're not going to give it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Away, but that was Yeah, Now, this is what I'm
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: gonna say, did you like it in your knock? I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: don't know if you liked it. It was it was surprising.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I liked it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, this is where you know, with the
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: times we're in.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I just didn't love that force feeding of it. You know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I don't like anything force fed to me. Nothing, you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: crazy about it other than a nice bull soup, nice
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: monts of ball soup. I don't want anything force fed
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: to me. So yeah, I wasn't crazy about it, But
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: than it is what it is. I thought that actor
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: was incredible. Yeah, and I thought his speech about you know, I.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want to give any spoilers, but yeah, his
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: speech kind of that one. Oh god, I can't say anything.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: This is a little tough. Let's just get out of it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: We have two more topics left.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I want to tell everybody now, no one's going to
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Zach Deats was spotted running with his gear to the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: game after he was alerted just over an hour before
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the game he'd be dressing for the Ottawa Centers. This
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: is the topic of the ebug I guess from I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: don't explain this, but emergency backup goalie.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: OK the e bug system. I love it, JD. Because
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: this this this gives.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Thought to the guy, your buddy who was a house
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: league goalie might have his chance to play the NHL.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I love the who does are you in on the plug? Yeah?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I mean anytime, anytime this happens in the rarity when
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: it does happen, I mean, I think all the fans
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: love it too, because you're it's you essentially, it's you
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: on the ice and you're getting that you know, fantasy
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: camp chance against you know, some of the greats and
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: people you watch, and I think everybody wishes they could
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: get one game, and everybody talks about it. Do you
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: think you you know, even NHL guys, do you think
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: you could throw a completion in the NFL? Or if
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: you know some sure people are like, hey, do you
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: think you could score a goal or make a save
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: in the NHL? So I think it's really gives It's
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a cool thing, you know, obviously it it would be
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: too hard to have somebody that's in the city that's
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: like an actual, you know, guy playing for a club
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: team or university team. I'd like to maybe give it
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to like a junior team that's in the city. Give
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: it to that goalie if he's there, you know, or
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: somebody that kind of is playing it. If there's a
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: university as well, like trying to make it a little
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: bit more streamlined.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: You'd rather go young guy rather than Samboni driver.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean the Zamboni drivers cool because like
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I've you know, my Beerley goal that I played with
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: in Phoenix, Arizona. I'd love for him to get a
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: game because I chirp him all the time and I
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: would shacker. I wish he was shacker. I wish you
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: would get a game because he could kick when he's going,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: but it takes him about sixty shots to warm up
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and you get it in Beer League. So like he's
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  Speaker 3: I just wish he could, you know, he could see
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  Speaker 3: the see one NHL game. Yeah, it's cool. I like it. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: I think the system might be a touch out dated,
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  Speaker 3: but I think it's a cool little thing that the
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  Speaker 3: NHL has. You know, it's no it's no NBA Cup
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  Speaker 3: or you know, or Golden bat role, but you know
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  Speaker 3: it's it's the ebug last thing.
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  Speaker 1: All kiding aside. Jad does a phenomenal job on HL
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  Speaker 1: Network with your breakdowns. Talas is very skeptical of this
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  Speaker 1: is an audio medium.
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  Speaker 2: With iHeart that you were insistent that you did this
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  Speaker 2: video breakdown to him one time.
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  Speaker 3: I know, and we were just here, but go ahead, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 3: it happened tonight with it happened the last two nights,
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  Speaker 3: Gap last night and then Sandheim tonight. When you're giving
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  Speaker 3: up a two on one, there's two ways of playing it.
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  Speaker 3: You can either stand up or you can slide. And
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  Speaker 3: by sliding you're laying down. You're trying to make yourself
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  Speaker 3: big negate the pass that's coming across. The issue with that,
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  Speaker 3: with the Gaverkov one is when the ford is staring
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  Speaker 3: directly at you. Because in the NHL nowadays, players are good,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: players are skilled, players, have their head up. Gone are
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the times of guys chopping onions coming down the ice
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: like me. They can barely stick handle. Everybody can stick handle.
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  Speaker 3: So you're just taking yourself out of the plane. You're
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  Speaker 3: leaving more holes than you're taking away. So what I
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  Speaker 3: want guys to do is stand up. You have to
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  Speaker 3: use one hand on your stick, fake it a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: try to make the guy think, and then take away
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  Speaker 3: the pass as much as possible, but guys are just
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  Speaker 3: diving right away. They slide immediately. They either get you
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: saw it with Gaverkov sliding. Michael Bunting just pulls it
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  Speaker 3: to his backhand, slides it across the crease, and Darcy
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  Speaker 3: Kemper it goes right through his legs because he's thinking
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: that the past is getting across. But there's a little
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: bounce of funny bounces and that, and then tonight to
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Brincat scores because Patrick Kane, you're sliding against Patrick Kane.
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  Speaker 3: He's just literally gonna sauce it over you and it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a tap into the back of your net.
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  Speaker 3: So I just think more issues come from it than
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: actual good things. And every coach seems to be teaching
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  Speaker 3: guys slide now, and I can't stand it. Stop sliding.
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Albert's five hundredth national.
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Albert, he's a neo.
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  Speaker 1: Baby, but he's a very hard workers.
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  Speaker 2: Like those guys, he goes the other way. Most guys Goby,
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  Speaker 2: they go, I'm gonna mail it in and not do much.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny goes the other way. No, you think I just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: got this job because of Marv. I'll do every goddamn
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  Speaker 1: sport possible.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it well. Props to Kenny Albert.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: What do you think of nepotism? Props to Kenny al
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Props to Kenny Albert. By the way, I've you know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I've seen how the sausage is made on the color
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: commentary side on TV and radio recently, and I mean
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: it's not the it's not the spectacle it is without
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  Speaker 3: those guys, uh and girls that do it. You know.
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  Speaker 3: They they do such a fantastic job, and it is
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: such a difficult job and so much prep, and they
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: are as important integral intent, integral, integral you easy pike.
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  Speaker 3: They're as integral to like a team winning as anybody
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  Speaker 3: and they feel as much a part of the team
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  Speaker 3: as any of the players. So kudos to Kenny Albert.
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  Speaker 3: Round of clicks.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Clicks, round and clicks.
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