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- 0:05(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
- 0:07This is Finding God at Work.
- 0:14Just a reminder that Finding God at Work
- 0:16isn't just a podcast, it's also an online
- 0:18course.
- 0:19Check it out at FindingGodAtWork.org.
- 0:30Our current series is Divine Disappointments, Facing Pain
- 0:34and Sorrow at Work.
- 0:37And today we want to talk about the
- 0:38particular pain of being stuck in a job
- 0:42that you're over-qualified for or locked out
- 0:44from a job that's really commensurate with your
- 0:47skills.
- 0:48And I want to start with a story.
- 0:50Oleksandr Martsev was a Ukrainian physician.
- 0:54He and his wife lived in a rural
- 0:56area of Ukraine.
- 0:57They had seven children and he was the
- 0:59only doctor serving about 5,000 people in
- 1:02that region.
- 1:02So an incredibly important role of physician access
- 1:06in rural communities is a problem all over
- 1:08the world, even here in the United States.
- 1:10It can be a challenge.
- 1:11And during the ongoing conflict in Ukraine with
- 1:14the invasion of Russia, he and his family
- 1:16fled Ukraine and came to Canada in 2022.
- 1:19But when he arrived in Canada, his medical
- 1:22licensure did not transfer.
- 1:24There were requirements, an exam he had to
- 1:26pass, things he hadn't met.
- 1:27But he had a family with seven kids
- 1:29that he needed to start feeding right away.
- 1:31So he got a job as a welder.
- 1:32He became a welding assistant and then a
- 1:34welder in order to provide for his family.
- 1:37I just want to quote from an article
- 1:38about his experience here.
- 1:41Canadian journalist Brandon Tucker writes that Martsev, quote,
- 1:44explained that despite the severe lack of doctors
- 1:47and other health care workers in Canada, many
- 1:49international medical professionals are forced to work in
- 1:51construction, agriculture, or other industries in order to
- 1:55support their families while also saving up money
- 1:57for the certification process.
- 1:59According to Medical Council of Canada, the current
- 2:02cost associated with international physicians getting licensed to
- 2:04practice in Canada is more than $6,000.
- 2:07In order to save such a significant chunk
- 2:09of money, Martsev got licensed as a welder
- 2:11and has been steadily working in the industry
- 2:13while also trying to dedicate a few hours
- 2:15each night studying for his future medical exams.
- 2:20Okay, so can you imagine being in Dr.
- 2:23Martsev's position, right?
- 2:25You've been practicing medicine for years.
- 2:28You've been serving a community in your home
- 2:31country among people you know.
- 2:33You have to flee because of a conflict
- 2:34and then you're not even able to practice
- 2:36medicine in the nation where you arrive, even
- 2:38though there's a shortage of physicians in that
- 2:41nation.
- 2:42There's a shortage of physicians and health care
- 2:43workers in Canada and in the United States
- 2:45and a lot of the developing world right
- 2:46now.
- 2:48And so, you know, different people are advocating
- 2:49to make the cross-license process easier.
- 2:52But right now, Dr. Martsev's day-in, day
- 2:56-out experience is he's doing his welding job,
- 2:58he's studying for exam, he's trying to be
- 2:59present to his family as a husband and
- 3:01as a father.
- 3:02I'm just incredibly impressed by that story of
- 3:05resilience about what he's doing to make things
- 3:07work.
- 3:08But it also speaks to that experience that
- 3:11many of us, perhaps in a less dramatic
- 3:12way, have sometimes faced of being stuck in
- 3:15a job that you're overqualified for or being
- 3:18locked out of the job that you really
- 3:20are qualified for and that you want to
- 3:22do.
- 3:23And that experience can be painful and frustrating.
- 3:26There's several different layers to that frustration.
- 3:29One is financial, right?
- 3:30If you're qualified to do a certain job
- 3:32and you could have that job, you often
- 3:34could earn more doing that job.
- 3:36But if you aren't able to get it,
- 3:38you're not making as much money, even though
- 3:40you could, even though you have the capacity,
- 3:42these skills required.
- 3:44There's also a reputational thing, right?
- 3:47Welders and doctors have different reputations.
- 3:49Now, that could be a social problem in
- 3:51and of itself.
- 3:51Part of one of my soap boxes here
- 3:54at Mission Central is that we need to
- 3:56honor the trades and see that the trades
- 3:58have incredible value in our society and not
- 4:01look down on people who do quote-unquote
- 4:03blue-collar work because society could not function
- 4:06without it, okay?
- 4:08Now, at the same time, for somebody who's
- 4:10in the situation of having switched from one
- 4:12kind of work to another kind of work,
- 4:13there can be a sense of a change
- 4:15in reputational status.
- 4:17And that can be hard.
- 4:17That can be a hard thing to figure
- 4:18out, just the honor and shame dynamic of
- 4:21that.
- 4:21Like, are you embarrassed to say, oh, I'm
- 4:23a welder rather than, oh, I'm a doctor?
- 4:25Or, you know, in your situation, are you
- 4:27embarrassed to give your current job title, say,
- 4:30at a get together with friends versus the
- 4:33aspirational job that you wish you could say
- 4:35you have?
- 4:37And then there's also that deeper sense of
- 4:39vocational loss, a sense that maybe the thing
- 4:41that you're really qualified for is something that
- 4:43you have a vision for, that you deeply
- 4:45want to do, that you feel like maybe
- 4:48is part of your calling in life or
- 4:49what you were born to do.
- 4:51And you can't do that.
- 4:52You can't do the stuff that feels like
- 4:53it really counts while you're stuck doing this
- 4:56other thing.
- 4:57So there's layers of frustration here.
- 5:00And the first thing I want to say
- 5:01is that if you're in this situation where
- 5:02you're stuck in a job that's not the
- 5:04job that you're really qualified for, I just
- 5:06want to say I empathize with you.
- 5:07That is a really hard place to be.
- 5:10A quick apology here.
- 5:12Last episode I said Romans 1212.
- 5:13I think I misread my own handwriting or
- 5:15something.
- 5:15It's actually Romans 1215.
- 5:16So sorry if anybody was really sharp and
- 5:19caught that last week.
- 5:20Romans 1212 is also a great verse, but
- 5:22it's not the one that says mourn with
- 5:24those who mourn.
- 5:25So Romans 1215, rejoice with those who rejoice,
- 5:28mourn with those who mourn.
- 5:29If you're in that situation, I just mourn
- 5:32with you that you're facing all of those
- 5:34frustrations.
- 5:36Okay, now in this series, one of the
- 5:38ideas we have is that sometimes our pains
- 5:41at work, our sorrows at work, when we
- 5:44offer those to Jesus, he can redeem them
- 5:47and make them the places of our deepest
- 5:50spiritual growth and most fruitful mission to others.
- 5:54So how could that be true in this
- 5:56specific situation of being stuck in a job
- 5:59that you're overqualified for, being locked out of
- 6:01the job that you really want?
- 6:03I think there's three ways that we could
- 6:05see God's action in this.
- 6:08The first is there's an opportunity for greater
- 6:10intimacy with Jesus.
- 6:12The second is there's opportunity to be trained
- 6:15in humility.
- 6:17And the third is there's an opportunity to
- 6:18grow in faithful patience.
- 6:23So we're going to look at each of
- 6:24those things in turn.
- 6:26Okay, but the first thing I want to
- 6:28say with the opportunity for intimacy with Jesus
- 6:30here is that Jesus has been there.
- 6:32Jesus knows what it's like to be in
- 6:34a job that's not the job you're most
- 6:36qualified for.
- 6:37Let's go to Luke chapter two, and we'll
- 6:39see some of this in Jesus's story.
- 6:42This is starting in verse 41 to the
- 6:43end of the chapter.
- 6:45Every year, Jesus' parents went to Jerusalem for
- 6:47the festival of the Passover.
- 6:49When he was 12 years old, they went
- 6:51up to the festival according to the custom.
- 6:54After the festival was over, while his parents
- 6:55were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind
- 6:58in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it.
- 7:01Thinking he was in their company, they traveled
- 7:03on for a day.
- 7:04Then they began looking for him among their
- 7:06relatives and friends.
- 7:07When they did not find him, they went
- 7:08back to Jerusalem to look for him.
- 7:11After three days, they found him in the
- 7:13temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to
- 7:16them and asking them questions.
- 7:18Everyone who heard him was amazed at his
- 7:20understanding and his answers.
- 7:23When his parents saw him, they were astonished.
- 7:25His mother said to him, Son, why have
- 7:27you treated us like this?
- 7:29Your father and I have been anxiously searching
- 7:31for you.
- 7:32Why were you searching for me?
- 7:34He asked.
- 7:35Didn't you know I had to be in
- 7:36my father's house?
- 7:38But they did not understand what he was
- 7:40saying to them.
- 7:42Then he went down to Nazareth with them
- 7:43and was obedient to them.
- 7:45But his mother treasured all these things in
- 7:47her heart.
- 7:48And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature and
- 7:51in favor with God and man.
- 7:55Now we see a lot of things in
- 7:57this passage.
- 7:58Relevant to our current conversation, I think we
- 8:01see Jesus's quote-unquote qualifications in this passage.
- 8:04Might be kind of a funny way to
- 8:06talk about it, right?
- 8:06But imagine, you know, you're interviewing someone for
- 8:09a job and you get a chance to
- 8:10see them in action doing that job, right?
- 8:12So Jesus's ultimate job, his ultimate mission is
- 8:15to be the Messiah.
- 8:16He's the Son of God.
- 8:17He's going to redeem the world.
- 8:18He's a teacher.
- 8:20He's the Lord.
- 8:22He's the Savior.
- 8:23And in this particular scene, you see his
- 8:25qualifications for that teacher role specifically, that he
- 8:28has mastery of the scriptures already at 12
- 8:31years old.
- 8:32He's already schooling the scholars at 12 years
- 8:34old.
- 8:35They're in amazement of him because of the
- 8:37depth of his understanding of the scriptures.
- 8:41And so looking at this, you see Jesus's
- 8:43qualifications for his future teaching ministry.
- 8:46But now think about the timeline here.
- 8:47This is when Jesus is 12 years old,
- 8:49and we know he doesn't begin his active
- 8:51public ministry, his messianic ministry, until in his
- 8:54early 30s.
- 8:55So there's like an 18-year gap there,
- 8:56basically two decades gap before Jesus actually starts
- 9:00doing this stuff on a regular basis in
- 9:02public.
- 9:02He's already more qualified for it than the
- 9:05people who are doing it, right?
- 9:06He's already more qualified for it than the
- 9:08teachers-in-law who were there in the
- 9:09temple in Jerusalem.
- 9:12Why that 20-year delay?
- 9:14What is Jesus doing during those 20 years?
- 9:16Well, as you recall, right, it says he
- 9:18goes down to Nazareth and is obedient to
- 9:20his parents, and that includes likely taking up
- 9:23Joseph's practice of carpentry.
- 9:26And that word carpenter in the Greek, it's
- 9:28tecton, it could also be like a stonemason.
- 9:30It's something in the field of construction.
- 9:32So Jesus, after already showing his precocious competence
- 9:36at 12 years old to be a teacher
- 9:37of the word of God, among other things,
- 9:41he goes and he does a blue-collar
- 9:43job for the next two decades.
- 9:45Now, why would that be God's plan?
- 9:46And I love the way that Pastor Tom
- 9:48Nelson asks this question in his book Work
- 9:51Matters.
- 9:52So he's reflecting on the same passage.
- 9:53This is how he puts it.
- 9:55We know from Luke's gospel that even at
- 9:58the age of 12, Jesus was demonstrating his
- 10:00amazing rabbinical brilliance to the brightest and best
- 10:03in Jerusalem.
- 10:04How did Jesus's brilliance fit in with a
- 10:06carpentry career?
- 10:08At first glance, this doesn't seem to be
- 10:09a very strategic use of the Son of
- 10:11God's extraordinary gifts or his important messianic mission.
- 10:14Why was it the Father's will for Jesus
- 10:16to spend so much time in the carpentry
- 10:18shop instead of gracing the Palestinian countryside, proclaiming
- 10:22the gospel, and healing the multitudes?
- 10:26This is a really fascinating question, isn't it?
- 10:29And the first thing I want to say
- 10:30about this question is that at the very
- 10:32least, it shows us that Jesus knows what
- 10:34it's like to be in a job you're
- 10:36overqualified for.
- 10:38Jesus knows what it's like to not be
- 10:40in the job that you're really meant to
- 10:42be doing, even for a long time.
- 10:45And so if you're stuck in that situation
- 10:47where you've been longing to do something specific,
- 10:49something that you think you're meant to do,
- 10:51something that you think might even be part
- 10:52of God's call on your life, and yet
- 10:55you're not doing it, no, Jesus knows exactly
- 10:57what that's like.
- 10:59I want to just go briefly to a
- 11:01key verse in Hebrews that talks about how
- 11:04Jesus can empathize with us.
- 11:06And this is talking about Jesus' role as
- 11:07the mediator between God and humanity, the great
- 11:10high priest.
- 11:11And unfortunately, we don't have time in this
- 11:12episode to dig into all that theological context.
- 11:15But let me just read the verse here.
- 11:17This is starting in 4.15. For we
- 11:20do not have a high priest who is
- 11:22unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one
- 11:25who in every respect has been tempted as
- 11:27we are, yet without sin.
- 11:30Let us then with confidence draw near to
- 11:32the throne of grace, that we may receive
- 11:35mercy and find grace to help in time
- 11:37of need.
- 11:39Jesus has been tempted in every respect as
- 11:42we are, yet without sin, including quite literally
- 11:45in his own experience in the respect of
- 11:48having a job that's not really your thing,
- 11:51having a job that's really not the ultimate
- 11:52thing that you're meant to be doing.
- 11:54He's faced the temptations, the frustrations, the pains
- 11:57that come with that specific circumstance.
- 12:00And that means that if you're in that
- 12:01circumstance, there's an opportunity here for intimacy with
- 12:04Jesus.
- 12:05When you feel that frustration, can you bring
- 12:08it to Jesus?
- 12:10If he's that high priest, the one who's
- 12:11mediating between God and humanity, he's the one
- 12:14you go to when you're facing something.
- 12:16You offer it to him, and he takes
- 12:18it.
- 12:18He brings it into the presence of God.
- 12:21Again, we've talked about different practices for this,
- 12:23like doing an exam at the end of
- 12:25the workday, so you kind of catch up
- 12:26with your own emotions and bring those to
- 12:28God in prayer.
- 12:29The key idea here is whenever you face
- 12:30that pain, that frustration, bring it to Jesus,
- 12:34he knows what it's like.
- 12:36He will receive that and meet you there.
- 12:38You can actually grow in deeper intimacy with
- 12:40him in the middle of that shared experience.
- 12:45Okay, now that doesn't really answer the question
- 12:48though, like why would God have Jesus do
- 12:50this other job for 20 years?
- 12:52And Pastor Tom Nelson, he gets into answering
- 12:54the question too.
- 12:55So this is a couple pages later in
- 12:57his book, Work Matters.
- 12:59He writes, We are rightly in awe of
- 13:02Jesus, who shockingly ignores cultural convention by picking
- 13:05up a basin and towel and washing his
- 13:07disciples dirty, stinky feet.
- 13:10Yet we tend to forget that Jesus had
- 13:11been modeling a basin and towel kind of
- 13:14servanthood in a carpentry shop for years.
- 13:17Jesus' humble service in the workplace was the
- 13:20training ground for that glorious display of servanthood
- 13:23in an upper room in Jerusalem.
- 13:25If you get what Pastor Tom Nelson is
- 13:29saying here, he's saying that Jesus was somehow
- 13:31prepared for his future ministry during those 20
- 13:35years in the carpentry shop.
- 13:36He was prepared even in his character.
- 13:39Now that might be strange for us to
- 13:40think about Jesus being prepared in his character
- 13:41because as we just saw in the Hebrews
- 13:43passage, Jesus was without sin.
- 13:45And yet remember what was at the end
- 13:47of the Luke passage, right?
- 13:48It says, Jesus grew in wisdom and stature
- 13:51and in favor with God and man.
- 13:54Part of Jesus' incarnational reality is entering into
- 13:58even the process of human development.
- 14:00Jesus still had to grow up into his
- 14:03character, including the character of humility particularly.
- 14:08And so that brings us to kind of
- 14:09our second spiritual opportunity when we're stuck in
- 14:12a job that's a little bit below our
- 14:14skill set, is we have an opportunity to
- 14:16grow in humility, to do that job well
- 14:19even though we might be tempted to think
- 14:22it's beneath us, to say nope, it's not
- 14:23beneath me.
- 14:24I can do this job today and I
- 14:27can do it well because that's what Jesus
- 14:28modeled for us.
- 14:31Pastor Nelson used that word or that phrase
- 14:33training ground.
- 14:35Our work is our training ground for our
- 14:37character.
- 14:38And sometimes having a job that you're overqualified
- 14:41for might even be a better training ground
- 14:43in particular for humility than having the job
- 14:46that you're qualified for.
- 14:48Learning how to do the task that seems
- 14:50menial could actually mature your character, help you
- 14:52get closer to that Christ-like character than
- 14:55having the job that's the perfect fit for
- 14:57you.
- 14:58I want to go back to Romans 12
- 14:59briefly.
- 15:00We've already been there for verse 15, but
- 15:03right after verse 15 comes verse 16 where
- 15:06Paul writes, live in harmony with one another,
- 15:10do not be proud but be willing to
- 15:11associate with people of low position.
- 15:14Do not be conceited.
- 15:17So again, who are the people that we
- 15:19associate with?
- 15:19What is the company that we keep as
- 15:21Christians?
- 15:22Paul says, don't just hang out with other
- 15:24elite people if you happen to be a
- 15:25person of privilege, hang out with people of
- 15:27low position.
- 15:28We're all created in the image of God.
- 15:30We're all in the Christian community redeemed by
- 15:32Jesus's blood on the cross.
- 15:34There doesn't need to be this sense of
- 15:35superiority that often comes with professional roles and
- 15:39high status jobs.
- 15:41We need to remember, oh, I'm just like
- 15:43the person next to me.
- 15:44Maybe having a little bit of a lower
- 15:45status job could help with that.
- 15:48Okay, and my New Testament Greek is not
- 15:50impressive by any means, but I do have
- 15:52a little footnote here in the NIV in
- 15:54that phrase that says, be willing to associate
- 15:57with people of low position.
- 15:59There's a little footnote that says, or willing
- 16:03to do menial work.
- 16:04So apparently that phrase could be translated associate
- 16:07with people of low position or do menial
- 16:10work.
- 16:11And so if we go with that alternate
- 16:13translation, this is very literally what we're talking
- 16:15about.
- 16:16Paul is saying, be willing to do menial
- 16:17work as a disciple of Jesus.
- 16:19That is a hallmark of Christ-like character.
- 16:22Okay, so that's our second spiritual opportunity here.
- 16:24We have intimacy with Jesus, but we also
- 16:26have an opportunity to mature into Christ-like
- 16:29character and humility.
- 16:32Okay, third spiritual opportunity is to grow in
- 16:36faithful patience.
- 16:38There's this verse in Revelation that talks about
- 16:40the patient endurance of the saints.
- 16:42This is Revelation 14 verse 12.
- 16:46Here is the patient endurance of the saints,
- 16:48those who keep the commandments of God and
- 16:51the faith in Jesus.
- 16:53Patient endurance.
- 16:57When you're facing a work situation that has
- 16:59more cause for frustration and embarrassment than for
- 17:02gratification and honor, that takes endurance.
- 17:05It takes emotional endurance.
- 17:06It takes spiritual endurance.
- 17:08And it takes faith, right?
- 17:10This is the verse.
- 17:11Here is the patient endurance of the saints,
- 17:12those who keep the commandments of God and
- 17:14the faith in Jesus.
- 17:16It takes faith to believe that God is
- 17:19still working in that situation, even if we
- 17:21can't see how.
- 17:22Faith in providence.
- 17:24Faith that God works even through those low
- 17:27points of our life, those pains, those sorrows,
- 17:29to accomplish his purposes.
- 17:32Saint Teresa of Avila, a 16th century Spanish
- 17:36Carmelite nun, she wrote this poem, and there's
- 17:39a phrase in this poem that I really
- 17:41love.
- 17:42It's originally in Spanish, la pasiencia todo lo
- 17:45al canca, la pasiencia todo lo al canca,
- 17:49often translated.
- 17:50Patience obtains all things.
- 17:55Because we know, if we're disciples of Jesus,
- 17:57if we're putting our faith in him, that
- 17:59God will work out all things in the
- 18:01end to accomplish his purposes.
- 18:03Whether that's by you eventually getting to circle
- 18:06back around to that job that's more gratifying,
- 18:08more in line with your vocational aspirations, more
- 18:11fruitful in society, or even if that never
- 18:15happens, by maturing your character so that you
- 18:18are a more Christ-like person, and the
- 18:20gift of your Christ-like character to those
- 18:22around you is what God intends.
- 18:25Either way, God is accomplishing his purposes.
- 18:28Patience obtains all things.
- 18:31When we wait for the Lord in the
- 18:34midst of that pain and sorrow, we receive
- 18:36from him the power to endure.
- 18:39We will obtain what he is accomplishing in
- 18:42the midst of our difficulties.
- 18:46Lord Jesus, thank you that you are at
- 18:48work.
- 18:49We ask that you would help us to
- 18:51keep our faith in you, to endure when
- 18:53we face these frustrations, to become more intimate
- 18:55with you, to grow in humility, and to
- 18:58grow in patience.
- 19:00Jesus, do your work in us as we
- 19:02do our work with you.
- 19:03Amen.
- 19:08Thanks for listening.
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