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The Mandalorian Chapter 10: The Passenger · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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Speaker 1: The force will be with you always.
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Speaker 2: joining me on this journey, this very special journey we're taking,
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Speaker 2: is Jedi Master Matthew Rushing. Matt are you ready to
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Speaker 2: discuss Chapter ten of the Mandalorians second episode of season two,
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Speaker 2: The Passenger.
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Speaker 3: I can't wait. Actually, I had so much fun at
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Speaker 3: talking about the first episode, The Marshall. I am very
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Speaker 3: much looking forward to this one, especially since this was
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Speaker 3: an episode that coming off the first episode. I just
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Speaker 2: from the start. We'll go back, we'll do piece by
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Speaker 2: piece of the episode. We know this is the second
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Speaker 2: episode of the season, and we're all primed after a
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Speaker 2: killer opening at the Marshall and the little teas of like,
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's ah with this. Everybody tore themselves
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Speaker 2: apart with that core part of the story where the
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Speaker 2: alien that he is getting home her fertilization to pendent
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Speaker 2: eggs are in a floaty jar and Grogu sees them
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Speaker 2: as food, and despite Mando admonishing him repeatedly, he keeps
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Speaker 2: stealing a snack. So what was your reaction with that
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Speaker 2: whole thing that people were on fire about.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean, obviously it's a weird part of
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Speaker 3: the story. Honestly, it's a strange choice, I think to
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Speaker 3: have Grogu eating these kids basically.
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Speaker 2: But they're not They're not kids. Yet Yeah, you're not
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Speaker 2: fertilized yet. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
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Speaker 3: I still think it's strange, but I look, I don't
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Speaker 3: think that that's I actually think the thing that stands
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Speaker 3: out to me the most about this episode, especially in
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Speaker 3: rewatching it, was the way in which we're mirroring this
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Speaker 3: mother and the Mandalorian and the roles that they have,
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Speaker 3: and both of their roles are in protecting their children.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's the real beauty of this episode,
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Speaker 3: is that we are showing just how far Mando will
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Speaker 3: go to protect this child. And I think there's something
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Speaker 3: really special about that by showing that juxtaposed with a
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Speaker 3: mother who is doing the very same thing. She's putting
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Speaker 3: her life on the line, she is doing everything possible
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Speaker 3: to make sure that her children can exist in the
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Speaker 3: first place, right, And so I just really love that,
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Speaker 3: and I think that it was very smart of the
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Speaker 3: creators of the show to go this route for the
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Speaker 3: second episode. You know, we're still continuing on the whole thread.
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Speaker 3: If we're trying to find Mandalorians that you know, will
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Speaker 3: allow him to be able to know, you know, where
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Speaker 3: where some possible Jedi might be. And I love all
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Speaker 3: that but I just I really think that there is
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Speaker 3: something special about let's take an episode to remind us
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Speaker 3: that the goal that Mando has might not be as
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Speaker 3: easy for him in the end as he thinks it's
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Speaker 3: going to be. And specifically that comes down to the
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Speaker 3: way in which he feels about this kid and that
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Speaker 3: he is growing closer to this kid than I think
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Speaker 3: that he remembers or realizes, not remembers, but it realizes.
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Speaker 3: And again, I think this is an episode to kind
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Speaker 3: of accentuate all of those things by allowing us to
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Speaker 3: see it through the lens of, you know, another parent
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Speaker 3: who's willing to do whatever it takes. And that's the
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Speaker 3: thing that really stuck out to be, especially just even
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Speaker 3: in the rewatch of you know, kind of being really special.
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Speaker 2: You know. I like what you're saying there about how
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Speaker 2: you see basically two parents trying to defend their young
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Speaker 2: and I think that people got I think that the
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Speaker 2: episode did what it was supposed to do, which was
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Speaker 2: cast the fact that what Grogu was doing was a
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Speaker 2: real ink blot test in ways that I think people
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Speaker 2: didn't expect it to be, wherein Grogu doesn't have an
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Speaker 2: apparent concept of right and wrong at this stage. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's great, And so how are you condemning him for
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Speaker 2: just doing what comes naturally? Right? And then shouldn't you
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Speaker 2: be transferring that to Mando might say, hey, no, don't
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Speaker 2: do that. Well, why isn't Mando keeping a tighter eye
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Speaker 2: on things. Why isn't he as defensive of her children,
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Speaker 2: her future, your potential children as he is of the foundling?
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Speaker 2: And I think that in and of itself winds up
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Speaker 2: being a very interesting thing, because we've already seen he'll
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Speaker 2: do anything up to an including sacrificing himself to defend Grogu, right,
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Speaker 2: who we still don't know his name is Grogu? Sorry
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Speaker 2: at this point the child, but he all he does
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Speaker 2: is sort of admoniest, like hey, don't do that, and
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Speaker 2: then he walks away. It's like, well, yeah, I mean
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Speaker 2: the kid isn't paying attention to you, really.
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Speaker 3: I mean he's doing what kids do.
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Speaker 2: Well, which is misbehave. Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 3: And you know, you know, you don't tell you don't
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Speaker 3: have to tell kids what to not do in the
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Speaker 3: sense of like, yeah, we rephrase it. You don't have
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Speaker 3: to tell kids the bad thing to do, the wrong
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Speaker 3: thing to do. You have to teach them what the
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Speaker 3: right thing to do is. And that's where we are with,
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Speaker 3: you know, the child at this moment, and he's in
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Speaker 3: a spot where he doesn't know the right things to do.
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Speaker 3: And even when he's told what the right things to
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Speaker 3: do are, he's going to continue to push the boundaries,
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Speaker 3: as all children do, to see what he can get
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Speaker 3: away with. And I like what you're saying that there
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Speaker 3: is this sense that, you know, I don't think Mando
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Speaker 3: has quite realized just yet, and I think these episodes
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Speaker 3: here are really starting to teach him that is that, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: when you have a kid, you got to kind of
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Speaker 3: keep your eye on them all the time. You know,
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Speaker 3: there isn't a moment that you can let up. And
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Speaker 3: right there are too many times in this episode where
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Speaker 3: he's led up because he's too focused on what he
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Speaker 3: needs to do and you know, just not making sure
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Speaker 3: that the child is with him, and that creates issues
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Speaker 3: for everyone around him. And so but that's what it's
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Speaker 3: like to have a little kid, you know, like that's
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Speaker 3: just what they do.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be wouldn't it have made more sense in
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Speaker 2: this episode because they get into the predicament that they
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Speaker 2: do with the spiders, which we'll talk about soon enough.
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Speaker 2: After he picks up the passenger, they're underway, they can't
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Speaker 2: go into hyperspace, and they of course are traveling sub
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Speaker 2: light and Trapper Wolf and Carson Teeva come up and Mando. Basically,
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Speaker 2: this is the classic thing of why did he run
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Speaker 2: from them? I mean, we know why, we know why
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Speaker 2: he's wanted for questioning on something. There's the timelock of
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Speaker 2: she's got a certain window of time. Where do you
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Speaker 2: stand on the idea that Mando is in a disaster
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Speaker 2: of his own making here and the correct thing to
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Speaker 2: do would have been to explain the situation to the
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Speaker 2: New Republic authorities, to make sure that she would get
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Speaker 2: where she needed to go safely and accept any consequences.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that it was right of him to
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Speaker 2: run because of his fear of letting Grogu go, because
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Speaker 2: of what the New Republic might do if they discover Grogu.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's a really good question.
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 1: We do.
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Speaker 3: I think see in this episode the mistrust that Mando
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Speaker 3: has of everyone, and it kind of comes back to
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Speaker 3: bite him in the butt because I think what you
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Speaker 3: were saying proves out at the end of the episode
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Speaker 3: where they could have taken him in, but because of
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Speaker 3: the actions that he's taken that were altruistic have put
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Speaker 3: him in the right light with the New Republic, Right,
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Speaker 3: they're willing to let some say things slide because they
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Speaker 3: realized this is a good guy and he's not really
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Speaker 3: trying to do anything wrong. And if, like you said,
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Speaker 3: if he had just explained that at the very beginning,
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Speaker 3: it would have made a world of difference. And so
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Speaker 3: I really appreciate that, and I think you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is one of those places too where
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Speaker 3: I think it's one of the growth elements of the
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Speaker 3: character of the Mandalorian Dindjarin slowly throughout this series is
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Speaker 3: going to learn to trust other people. It's just going
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Speaker 3: to be a very slow process. Right, And you know
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Speaker 3: we even is it this episode where we get this
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Speaker 3: slight view of or was the previous episode where we
11:05
Speaker 3: got the slight view of his like background? Oh no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: So we've already seen, you know, just a slight view
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Speaker 3: of his background, right that he was saved by Mandalorians
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Speaker 3: during the Clone Wars, right, and and therefore that's what
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Speaker 3: led him to being a mandalarian in the first place.
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Speaker 2: So I just.
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Speaker 3: But they're the only people he's ever been able to trust,
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Speaker 3: and this whole series is about him finding people he
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Speaker 3: can trust. And I think that that again, I think
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Speaker 3: that's really interesting and I kind of just love that
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Speaker 3: that's a part of his growth. And yeah, so you're
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Speaker 3: exactly right. If he had just trusted there, they would
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Speaker 3: have been in a much better position and he wouldn't
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Speaker 3: be limping to this planet of trask, you know, almost dead.
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Speaker 2: Right, And I think that the I think that the
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Speaker 2: audience reaction was really interesting to me, you know, online,
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Speaker 2: because they fixated on the child eating the eggs. That
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Speaker 2: was a big sticking point for people. And I think
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Speaker 2: that there's you know, it's it's really wild because I
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Speaker 2: think this is a bold episode to have immediately after
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Speaker 2: the opening that you did, because I think this is
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Speaker 2: going into such different territory with everything, and it's such
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Speaker 2: an odd choice not to have him simply go off
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Speaker 2: to the next adventure. Because the big complaint that a
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Speaker 2: lot of people had that I talked to with season
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Speaker 2: one was yeah, it's good, but it's too much like
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Speaker 2: a video game. It's like each episode was he had
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Speaker 2: to go do a task, come back, get the reward.
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Speaker 2: Go do a task, come back and get the I
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Speaker 2: was like, congratulations, you just described pretty much every hero
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Speaker 2: story ever written. But that's cool. That's cool. Don't worry
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Speaker 2: about it. But this one is a bridge episode. There's
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Speaker 2: no clean resolution to it. There's no get the magic
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Speaker 2: bean and you grow the beanstalk aspect to it. It's
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Speaker 2: literally a step along the way, and so I think,
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Speaker 2: I just I think it's a really bold choice, but
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Speaker 2: one choice that I thought was I'd love to get
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Speaker 2: your take on it. Obviously, they use and I'm going
13:37
Speaker 2: to try to pronounce it correctly here because I'd never
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Speaker 2: heard the name before. The Krikna or is it Kriikna
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Speaker 2: spiders that they encounter, which are based on spider illustrations
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Speaker 2: that Macquarie did for The Empire Strikes Back, which I
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Speaker 2: always thought were rest in a great way in rebels. Yes,
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Speaker 2: when they encounter the ben do so we encounter them here,
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Speaker 2: so people who didn't watch the animated series can see.
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Speaker 2: You know, it brought the life here sort of thing
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Speaker 2: in a different way. Do you think the introduction of
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Speaker 2: the spiders was effective? Was it good? Was it cheap?
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Speaker 2: Do you think that it was just a you know,
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Speaker 2: a scare tactic for the story, Like do you think
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Speaker 2: how effective do you think the spiders were?
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Speaker 3: You know, what's really interesting about this is that I
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Speaker 3: actually think the spiders fit with the theme that we
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Speaker 3: were talking about earlier, because what does Grogu do. He
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Speaker 3: eats one of the kids out of the egg, and
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Speaker 3: so it is a parent protecting its kid. And yes,
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Speaker 3: it's it's it's just acting on instinct because it's just
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Speaker 3: an insectoid or an animal or whatever we want to
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Speaker 3: call it, right it but it it's protecting its offspring.
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Speaker 3: And of course it's going to come after you, and
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Speaker 3: if you harm it, it's offspring. And so I think again,
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Speaker 3: every single part of this episode is driving at the
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Speaker 3: thematic element that what will you do to protect your offspring?
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Speaker 3: And what we see here is that at every level
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Speaker 3: of sentience, right, most species are driven to protect the
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Speaker 3: next generation. And I think that's really interesting and it's
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Speaker 3: great for the character of the Mandalorian in this sense,
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Speaker 3: because the Mandalorian don't necessarily grow by procreation in the
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Speaker 3: normal way, right. A lot of times they grow by
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Speaker 3: adopting those that they find along the way. So they're
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Speaker 3: they're very much an adoptive culture, which I also think
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Speaker 3: is beautiful that we're you know, utilizing the importance of
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Speaker 3: adoption and and how powerful it is and what it
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Speaker 3: can mean to create families that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
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Speaker 3: I think that's great. And so yeah, this is this
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Speaker 3: is one of those things where the to me, the
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Speaker 3: spiders worked on that. On that front, I also just
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Speaker 3: thought they looked great. I thought they did a really
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Speaker 3: good job with the effects work of them, and I
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Speaker 3: also do yeah, I enjoy Yeah, it's a little scary.
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Speaker 3: Ron Weasley from Harry Potter would hate this because he
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Speaker 3: hates spiders, me too, but I also appreciated to the
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Speaker 3: idea of them being like kind of putting something unexpected
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Speaker 3: on an ice planet was great, you know, And so
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Speaker 3: all around I thought that they were well done and fit.
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Speaker 3: So what did you think, I mean, how did you feel?
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Speaker 3: Especially here with the rewatch.
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Speaker 2: I'm terrified of spiders, and so every time I've rewatched
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Speaker 2: this episode, I hate it. I hate it, but I
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Speaker 2: love it because I love a good scare, big horror
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Speaker 2: movie fan and everything like that, and I love monsters,
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Speaker 2: and monsters are a hallmark of Star Wars. I don't
17:34
Speaker 2: think Star Wars has an identity without the monster aspect,
17:38
Speaker 2: going all the way back to the Dianoga in the
17:41
Speaker 2: original Star Wars and then the Wampa, and then you
17:45
Speaker 2: have the Starlac and the Rancorp and the the you know,
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Speaker 2: the Colo Clawfish and the OPC Killer, and you know
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Speaker 2: that the Aclae and the Reek. Like it's monsters everywhere
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Speaker 2: with Star Wars, and this I think adds the pantheon.
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Speaker 2: I wish they hadn't done spiders because even on Rebels,
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Speaker 2: when the you know, the spiders are there, I hate them.
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Speaker 2: I can't stress enough how much I hate spiders. So
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Speaker 2: it's a very very tough kind of episode to watch
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Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, here comes the scary part. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have nightmares after this cool, fantastic, you know,
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Speaker 2: And it's what's very much fun is at absolutely no prodding.
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Speaker 2: For me. What's great is that my youngest has become
18:40
Speaker 2: a very devoted fan of Dave Filoni all on her own,
18:46
Speaker 2: and so when Trapper Wolf shows up again in this episode, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like she was just absolutely tickled pink about it, and
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Speaker 2: the fact that he helped save Mando from the Spiders,
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Speaker 2: like she was just absolutely over the moon about it,
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Speaker 2: and it's so much fun to watch because it's like
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Speaker 2: she's not us, and she's not somebody that someone can
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Speaker 2: just you know, dismiss as like, oh, you're just being
19:12
Speaker 2: a fanboy or a fangirl or anything like that. It's
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Speaker 2: literally she organically grew into this love of Trapper Wolf himself.
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Speaker 2: And so you know, think that that sort of when
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Speaker 2: I think of the Spiders, I'm horrified, and then I
19:28
Speaker 2: think of her reaction to him, you know, helping out
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Speaker 2: at the end, and I'm like, Okay, this sort of
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Speaker 2: balances that way. It's a it's a pleasant memory. But
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Speaker 2: big question I have, you know, as we're rounding third
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Speaker 2: here is we saw some of the limitations of the
19:46
Speaker 2: effects with the you know, the volume in the previous episode.
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Speaker 2: Did you see any of those same limitations here or
19:56
Speaker 2: do you think that, especially in terms of volume usage,
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Speaker 2: this is you know, a plus across the board.
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Speaker 3: I think that this episode just felt better in every
20:10
Speaker 3: sense of the word, honestly, And I don't know why
20:15
Speaker 3: that is, because it feels like this should be harder to.
20:18
Speaker 2: Do, But.
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Speaker 3: I'm hard pressed to find moments that really stood out
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Speaker 3: to me. It felt like, oh, that's just the volume.
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Speaker 3: This this felt very real in its in its sense,
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Speaker 3: like you when they go to that part of the
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Speaker 3: cave where she's in the pool and everything, and then
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Speaker 3: the spiders start coming in and all, and then when
20:48
Speaker 3: they're running through the tunnels, like that stuff is great.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good, and I really really appreciate the
21:00
Speaker 4: work that they put into it, and I just think
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Speaker 4: that this is a great episode, like in that sense,
21:05
Speaker 4: like I don't I'm not sitting there thinking, oh my gosh,
21:09
Speaker 4: this feels like.
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Speaker 3: I'm just playing like a video game. This all feels
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Speaker 3: like it's happening on a set, which is crazy because
21:20
Speaker 3: we've also got a CGI spiders all over the place,
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Speaker 3: and none of them really feel like CGI. They all
21:27
Speaker 3: feel like something I could step on.
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Speaker 2: I stay with you wholeheartedly. No, I agree with you, though.
21:37
Speaker 2: I think that this is I think that this unlocks
21:40
Speaker 2: one of the tricks for the volume working best, which
21:44
Speaker 2: is movement. Don't give my eye a chance to start
21:50
Speaker 2: wandering and looking at the edges. Keep moving, make it happen.
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Speaker 2: Because I think that the slow stuff, or the still
21:59
Speaker 2: stuff is where I can sit there and I'll just
22:01
Speaker 2: stare at it and I'm looking for it. With this,
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Speaker 2: you catch me up in the action, I'm with you,
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Speaker 2: I'm there and I'll you know. But setting aside the
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Speaker 2: volume work, I think that the chase through the atmosphere
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Speaker 2: is like for me, that's the thing where I look
22:25
Speaker 2: at that completely CG rendered chase and the ships look
22:32
Speaker 2: like models, and the cloud like it looks so photo
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Speaker 2: realistic that it's one of those things where you just
22:41
Speaker 2: sort of shake your head in awe where you see
22:44
Speaker 2: this love of craft expressed and I want to shout
22:50
Speaker 2: it from the rooftops. Nobody cares how much your movie
22:54
Speaker 2: costs if you have people with a love of the
22:57
Speaker 2: craft putting it together, because that is what people will
23:03
Speaker 2: respond to, is that. That's what I responded to. For
23:07
Speaker 2: instance with Avatar Way of Water was there were self
23:11
Speaker 2: indulgent scenes all over that movie, but the effects were
23:15
Speaker 2: so painstakingly crafted. I didn't care who did what when
23:22
Speaker 2: I just enjoyed looking at and going wow, look at that. Yeah,
23:28
Speaker 2: and the chase of the atmosphere here, I.
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Speaker 3: Think to that. You got to give credit to Peyton Reid,
23:36
Speaker 3: who's the director here. I think he does a great
23:41
Speaker 3: job of setting the stage for all of this stuff.
23:46
Speaker 3: He does a great job, I think of making sure
23:48
Speaker 3: that we never get lost and where we are in
23:53
Speaker 3: the in the episode, you know, where we are in
23:55
Speaker 3: the locations that we're at. I think all of that's
23:58
Speaker 3: really well done, and that's some opressive and that's important
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Speaker 3: in Star Wars. One of the big things about Star
24:05
Speaker 3: Wars is that you have a sense of location, right,
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Speaker 3: and so I think he did a great job in
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Speaker 3: that aspect, and I'm really glad to see that.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: Also, you know, we talked last time just about the
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Speaker 3: way in which this cinematography did feel slightly off just
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Speaker 3: a little bit, uh, but the cinematographer is the same
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Speaker 3: one as the previous episode here, and this episode I
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Speaker 3: think looks phenomenal. I think part of that is you're
24:39
Speaker 3: not trying to do the bright tattooing suns, so you're
24:43
Speaker 3: able to play more with light and dark and shadows
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Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, the but not too
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Speaker 3: dark like exactly, and the eerodes blue that comes with
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Speaker 3: the ice, and I just it was that's one of
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Speaker 3: the plays. Like this episode is just really really good
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Speaker 3: in that point. So yeah, I really actually like this episode.
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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed rewatching this episode, and I'm so excited
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Speaker 3: that we decided to do this because I'm having a
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Speaker 3: blast at this point digging back into the Mandalorian here
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Speaker 3: season two and knowing that one of my favorite episodes
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Speaker 3: is coming up next with the airis I just I
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Speaker 3: can't wait.
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Speaker 2: Man, I can't wait either, But I think we need
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Speaker 2: to excuse ourselves so that we can go watch that.
25:30
Speaker 2: But before we do, Matt, where can people find you online?
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Speaker 3: Well, you can find me all over social media under
25:35
Speaker 3: the name Matt Rushking zero two. Of course, here on
25:38
Speaker 3: the network you'll find me with a completed show as
25:40
Speaker 3: well called outposts about every single chapter of the Harry Potter series.
25:43
Speaker 3: You also find me over on the TFM network with
25:47
Speaker 3: a bunch of different shows. One's called the six oh
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Speaker 3: two Club, as we talk about all of the franchises
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Speaker 3: we love outside of Star Trek, and there's also a
25:55
Speaker 3: lot of great Star Trek talk I do over there
25:57
Speaker 3: with my good friend Chris Jones on say the orb
25:59
Speaker 3: or or War five, those type of places. And of course,
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Speaker 3: at some point Strange New World will be back, and
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Speaker 3: so we'll talk about that again. But John, if people
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Speaker 3: want to see what you've got going on these days.
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Speaker 2: Where would they find you? Well, you can find me
26:14
Speaker 2: as cassel Junkie on any social network that I'm active on.
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Speaker 2: Visit me on Letterbox where I review movies because I
26:21
Speaker 2: love doing that, And you can find me right here
26:23
Speaker 2: on the network, co hosting a show called house Lights
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Speaker 2: with Tristia Medel and Darren Moser, where we look at
26:29
Speaker 2: the works of different film directors and characters and franchises
26:34
Speaker 2: and all sorts of zany combinations that we love to do.
26:38
Speaker 2: We've been on the air for quite some time. Why
26:40
Speaker 2: didn't you come on over and check us out over
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Speaker 2: there on house Lights? But master rushing, you know, like
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Speaker 2: we said, there are things we need to watch and
26:51
Speaker 2: get ready for for next time. And additionally, I really
26:56
Speaker 2: have to talk with the chef back at the Temple
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Speaker 2: because he said that there are eggs on the menu
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Speaker 2: and I've got to make sure that these are ethically sourced.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's time to close these negotiations.
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Speaker 3: Negotiations are close.
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