Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Andy Woods: U.S. Losing Nationhood, Identity, & Strength
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
- 0:20God bless you, friends, family and Christ.
- 0:23Thank you for tuning in.
- 0:24Andy Woods is with us again today.
- 0:26He's been traveling.
- 0:27He's been speaking.
- 0:28He's always busy preaching at his own church and then going out and speaking at conferences.
- 0:33And I just want to bring him in.
- 0:34We don't waste any time.
- 0:35Andy Woods, Andy Woods Ministries, thank you so much for taking the time today, brother.
- 0:41David, pleasure to be here.
- 0:42As always, thanks for having me.
- 0:44Good to see you.
- 0:45Now, you were at the Prophecy Summit in Orlando put on by Prophecy Watchers.
- 0:50That was just new within the last several weeks or within the last month.
- 0:54I can't believe how many great men of God were there speaking.
- 0:57There was a huge conference.
- 0:59How did that go?
- 1:00And I'm sure it's always encouraging to the remnant when they go to one of those.
- 1:04Oh, yeah.
- 1:05Great attendance.
- 1:07People were so encouraged and there's, I don't know, there's really nothing like being
- 1:11in a room, a giant, I mean, big, big crowd of people that share your beliefs and the
- 1:20given take, the conversations you can get into, different presenters, the literature that's
- 1:28available and the book tables.
- 1:31And I think the point of those conferences is just to encourage people and fortify them.
- 1:36This one certainly accomplished that goal.
- 1:39Praise God.
- 1:40And what you said, we reminded me a little bit of church when we go to church where we
- 1:43like minded believers, hopefully, right?
- 1:46But something like that is at another level where you've got people from all over the
- 1:49country, sometimes different parts of the world, the body of Christ coming together just
- 1:54to encourage sharpen each other and encourage each other and glean from some of these men
- 1:58of God.
- 1:59And the saints can be equipped and unlike your church, in many churches, the saints are
- 2:05not being equipped.
- 2:06So that's a problem.
- 2:07But also, you just recently, over the last weekend, you were at stealing the mind in
- 2:12Idaho and you mentioned before we got on, you had a presentation there that was similar
- 2:19to what you talked about in the past.
- 2:20But when you do that, I'm sure you find it important enough to give this, you know, whatever
- 2:26caution, warning information to the people you talk to at the conference, tell us about
- 2:31that.
- 2:32Well, yeah, I submitted my topic to Bill Perkins, who's the great organizer of this event
- 2:39year, yearly.
- 2:40He does such a great job, him along with his wife, Susie, who I know you know.
- 2:46We've had him on your show, I think before many times, but I submitted the topic the
- 2:52days of lot, you know, because Jesus was asked a question, what's it going to be like?
- 2:59When you come back and he didn't say the world is going to have a great, big revival, he
- 3:04said that it's going to be just like the days of lot.
- 3:07So the question is, what was it like in the days of lot given the totality of biblical
- 3:13revelation that we have on the Sodom and Gomorrah issue going back to Genesis 19?
- 3:19And I developed from that seven characteristics, some negative, some positive.
- 3:27For example, intercessory prayer, which preceded the Genesis 19 story where God, you know,
- 3:35told Abraham, should I hide what I'm going to do?
- 3:39And how, you know, should I spare Sodom if there's 50, 40, 10?
- 3:46So it's an example of great intercessory prayer.
- 3:50And I think if it was just like it was in the days of lot, when Jesus comes back, we
- 3:55can not only see the gravity skyrocket, but some good things as well, like the power of
- 4:00intercessory prayer.
- 4:03When you said I just want to share something real quick, you probably maybe talked about
- 4:06this from second Peter 2.
- 4:09I find this very fascinating.
- 4:11And this is what a lot of us are dealing with here in the United States of America.
- 4:15It talks about in verse seven, God rescued righteous lot and get this.
- 4:21And it describes who was oppressed by the perverted conduct of unscrupulous people.
- 4:28And then it says for by what he saw and heard that righteous man while living among them
- 4:34felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds.
- 4:41And then it goes on.
- 4:42But Andy, I've been making the point in these last couple of years.
- 4:45I got a chapter in my book, Souls tormented by evil.
- 4:50And that's what we can relate to.
- 4:52It's not just in America, it's around the world, but in our country, we are believers in
- 4:58Christ, true believers in a way, in a sense, tortured, tormented, vexed by what we see
- 5:06out in our culture, knowing the history of our country and how it was founded and seeing
- 5:10it today, and the evil, the moral decline, and then the lack of biblical worldview, even
- 5:15in the church.
- 5:16And I'll stop right there and just let you comment.
- 5:18Well, I mean, that's a sad reality.
- 5:22In fact, one of the things that I just recorded a show about concerned something called
- 5:28maps, minor attracted persons, which is just another way of saying pedophiles.
- 5:37And there was a conference held recently where they're trying to mainstream that the same
- 5:44way, the same sex movement, mainstreamed homosexuality back in the 1990s, the identical
- 5:51arguments that they used then, the maps folks are using now.
- 5:56And I just remember the words of Jesus, he says, if you offend a child, it would be better
- 6:01for you if a millstone was tied around your neck and you'd be cast into the sea.
- 6:07And these people are going into a level of sin that God is not going to turn to blind
- 6:13eye too.
- 6:14I mean, as that gets normalized and mainstreamed, that will bring the judgment of God.
- 6:19And so much like Lot, you know, I find myself vexed over that kind of subject matter.
- 6:25Yeah.
- 6:26And if we are kind of tormented in this way about our own culture and where we live, like
- 6:33Lot was, what do you think God feels about humanity?
- 6:37You know, I mean, we know, right?
- 6:39We know judgment is coming, of course.
- 6:41And what would Jesus say?
- 6:42Well, we have two, we have six letters.
- 6:45Is it six or seven in Revelation two and three?
- 6:48Five.
- 6:49How many?
- 6:51Five letters.
- 6:52Anyway, well, no, there's, yeah, it's chapters two and three, seven letters, seven letters
- 6:57to the churches.
- 6:58So, you know, people often ask, what would Jesus say to the church in America?
- 7:01And I'm going, whoo.
- 7:03We have a little bit of an idea.
- 7:07But anyway, let's get into some stories, Andy, that you have spoken about recently on
- 7:10your pastor's point of view.
- 7:11And by the way, friends, it's on YouTube.
- 7:13You can go to Andy Woods on YouTube and the pastor's point of view.
- 7:18Wonderful content.
- 7:19By the way, you only did an hour recently.
- 7:22So you're cutting them down.
- 7:23You could go for three hours.
- 7:25But anyway, that was probably a strategic move, right?
- 7:28Well, we have some folks picking them up, well, Brandon House, my friend, his world view,
- 7:37weekend plays them every night from nine to 10 central.
- 7:43And it's also being recorded on something, it's an app called Grace Global Radio.
- 7:51And they sort of, you know, read me the riot act saying, you know, you've got to keep
- 7:55these within an hour.
- 7:57And so that's the hardest thing for me to do is to figure out what to leave out because
- 8:02there's so much going on.
- 8:03So I've been sort of forced into a time discipline that I think I've needed for a long time.
- 8:08Because I'm a little bit like Paul, you know, I'll just go on and on and on.
- 8:12Ember Uticus fell asleep there, fell out of the window because Paul preached all I want.
- 8:18That's kind of how I am because there's so much happening.
- 8:21But I think the time discipline is needed.
- 8:24And then you can say, finally, brothers and go on for a couple more chapters, right?
- 8:28Yeah.
- 8:29Yeah.
- 8:30That reminds me of the kid that his father, the preacher was preaching and the preacher
- 8:35said, now finally, and the preacher and the kid turned to his father and said, what dad,
- 8:40what does that mean?
- 8:41And the dad said, it means absolutely nothing.
- 8:44Finally, in conclusion.
- 8:46Oh, okay.
- 8:47So Andy, several of the stories you shared disappointing, but this one was Washington state
- 8:55apparently passed a bill to teach about Palestinian Holocaust.
- 9:03Now, this is a true story, true story.
- 9:06And this was over at Front Page Magazine.
- 9:08So let's talk about this.
- 9:10How, I mean, you've got to avoid reality and obviously not know the truth about really
- 9:18history.
- 9:19Can you share a little bit of what you shared on this story?
- 9:22Yeah.
- 9:23And just in the interest of full disclosure, that was pending when we talked about it.
- 9:28But I think it's been defeated a lot of people have emailed me telling me that, but to
- 9:34me that doesn't matter because, you know, how the left is, they'll just keep bringing
- 9:38this back over and over again with new garb, you know, in disguise, it is something else.
- 9:45But it's kind of this idea that we're going to, you know, to marginalize what Israel went
- 9:51through in her real Holocaust.
- 9:54We're going to subject the youth to a fake Holocaust and pretend like the Israelis by rooting
- 10:00out terrorism in Gaza are committing a Holocaust against the citizens of Gaza.
- 10:07And it's basically historical revisionism, trying to make it sound like Israel is in a
- 10:12apartheid state and a genocidal state.
- 10:16And the truth of the matter is, if Israel is a genocidal state, she's doing a lousy
- 10:21job of it because the Arab population has increased in Judea and Samaria since 1967.
- 10:31And if Israel is in apartheid state, she's doing, because they're trying to equate Israel
- 10:35with South Africa in apartheid state that was, you know, criticized rightly back in the
- 10:421980s.
- 10:43They're trying to say Israel is the same, but if Israel is in apartheid state, she's
- 10:48doing a lousy job of it because you have non-Israelis that move to the highest echelons
- 10:54of society and government.
- 10:56So this moral equivalence argument that they're using is wrong.
- 11:00Israel is not a perfect country, there is no perfect country.
- 11:03But you can't equate what Israel is doing in self-defense in any way, shape, or form
- 11:08to the real Holocaust that she went through in the Hitler World War II era.
- 11:14But this curriculum that was introduced is designed to do that by making it sound like
- 11:21the Holocaust was really no big deal, because after all, Israel has committed her own holocausts
- 11:26is essentially what this curriculum was trying to do.
- 11:30And fortunately, it was defeated, but it'll come back at some point.
- 11:33Well, yeah, that's a very good point just because this bill didn't go through the front
- 11:38door.
- 11:39They'll find the side door, they'll find the back door, they'll find an escape hatch
- 11:42coming up from the underneath underground, that's kind of prophetic, or when you think
- 11:48about Satan and the underworld, it'll come up from somewhere.
- 11:52But it's interesting what it said, and it was originally broke by the post-millennial,
- 11:58the Washington Democrats slapped the surprise Hamas amendment on the Washington state Holocaust
- 12:05education bill.
- 12:06So yeah, I'm not going to say it's just going to be in Washington because unfortunately,
- 12:13this kind of ideology is spreading.
- 12:14Look at our college campuses, and we just proved that point.
- 12:19So let's go over to the next story, Andy, the IAEA chief.
- 12:24This is just almost like, this is one of the more astounding ones that we're going to talk
- 12:27about today.
- 12:28It says, we have lost track of Iran nuke progress.
- 12:33And one of the sentences in the story was there's been no progress in resolving the issue.
- 12:41So how can people are thinking, okay, how could this happen where we don't keep track
- 12:48anymore?
- 12:49We lost track of Iranian nuclear programs or the progress there.
- 12:54So can you explain that what you got out of the article?
- 12:57Well, I think it's significant because Persia, you know, modern day Iran is predicted to
- 13:03play a role in the end times coming against the nation of Israel.
- 13:09So the fact that the Iranians are on the fast track of joining the nuclear club, to
- 13:15me is state setting for this type of belligerence from Iran that Ezekiel, chapter 38, you know,
- 13:22predicts for the future.
- 13:24And one of the things to understand is Iran is a Shiite, a theocracy regime, meaning
- 13:32they see their purpose as creating chaos in the world to usher in the 12th Imam, that's
- 13:39what their belief system is.
- 13:42And these are the people that are about ready to get their hands on nuke's if they don't
- 13:46have them already.
- 13:47And the world community seems with the Iran deal that we've entered into again.
- 13:53There's almost powerless to slow it down because when the Iranians come to the table for
- 14:00negotiation, they are allowed to engage in something called tekea, meaning they're allowed
- 14:06to lie as long as it's advancing the cause of Allah.
- 14:11So you have to understand that when you enter into a deal with these types of countries,
- 14:16the two sides aren't operating on good faith.
- 14:20One side is holding the one set of morals from the Judeo-Christian climate that should
- 14:26not lie.
- 14:27The other side is allowed to lie.
- 14:29And so the fact of the matter is through subterfuge, through stalling, through the article
- 14:34talks about banning inspectors from the UN, they're just playing all these games to tell
- 14:43these people what they want to hear.
- 14:45So they can just keep building and moving, crossing the nuclear finish line.
- 14:50And it's like the world community seems powerless to stop it.
- 14:54And the only one that's in control, being in control of this thing is God.
- 14:59God is allowing this to happen for a prophetic purpose.
- 15:03And we have America, not we, Christians, but America, the Obama administration has given
- 15:08billions to Iran.
- 15:10And it's just a head scratcher because that's taxpayer money.
- 15:13So we've got to take a brief pause with Dr. Andy Woods, we'll be right back on World
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- 15:58So Andy, the next one, let's bring it over to America and a not surprising story.
- 16:02But the numbers might be an eye opener for a lot of people if they haven't been paying
- 16:06attention.
- 16:07Criminal attacks on American churches are up 800% in the last six years.
- 16:16Now family research council has done a recent survey on this.
- 16:20There have been others.
- 16:22This is no surprise.
- 16:23If you think about once they, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, think about all
- 16:28the attacks on churches and pro-life pregnancy centers.
- 16:31And it's not going to stop your thoughts on this, Andy.
- 16:36Well, yeah, you have that group, James Revenge, that, you know, it goes around like BLM for
- 16:43that matter, engages in riots and arson.
- 16:47You have situations where rocks or bricks are thrown through church windows.
- 16:54I mean, you know, these kind of things are on the ascendancy.
- 16:57And this is why it's so critical that pastors of local churches start to develop a relationship
- 17:04with local law enforcement.
- 17:07Yes.
- 17:08We have a guy running out here in Fort Bend County for sheriff.
- 17:12I'm very happy.
- 17:13He's a believer.
- 17:14He just won the Republican primary.
- 17:17He now moves into the general election.
- 17:19I don't mind promoting him on your show.
- 17:22His name is Marshall Slot.
- 17:25Fort Bend County Sheriff and local pastors of local churches out there kind of need to
- 17:30keep their eyes on folks that you think are going to help you when, you know, the rubber
- 17:37hits the road.
- 17:41So that's why, you know, a new story like this, you know, I think is very significant.
- 17:46Yeah.
- 17:47I mean, yeah, they've documented 915 acts of hostility against churches in these, in the
- 17:53six-year timeframe.
- 17:54And we're talking about vandalism.
- 17:56We're talking about, you know, death threats.
- 17:58There have been other things that have been documented as well.
- 18:02But again, Andy, not surprising in our current climate.
- 18:04And after what we saw in the year 2020 on American streets when the Black Lives Matter Global
- 18:10Network Foundation, what just, you know, wreaked havoc.
- 18:14I mean, one life is supposedly to justify what happened to George Floyd.
- 18:20But dozens of people died in the next six to nine months.
- 18:23And some of them were minority business owners.
- 18:26One was a black, black police officer.
- 18:28I think it was in St. Louis.
- 18:29But yeah, it was all to justify the greater cause.
- 18:31And it's just amazing that some of the law enforcement were told to stand down.
- 18:36Yeah.
- 18:37So churches, yeah, it's good to know who's your local sheriff and police officers.
- 18:42So let's go to the next one.
- 18:44And this is just amazing.
- 18:45This is on purpose by the left, the Biden administration admits flying 320,000 migrants
- 18:55secretly into the US to reduce the number of crossings at the border.
- 19:01And so that's their rationale, Andy Woods, they, oh, they're trying to help by reduce
- 19:07the number of border crossings, but they're still importing them aren't they?
- 19:11They're still getting them in there.
- 19:13Go ahead.
- 19:15Well, the truth of the matter is if you can't enforce your borders, you're not a country.
- 19:20It's like we believe in immigration, but use the front door.
- 19:24Yeah.
- 19:25It's like I'm the head of my home and no one comes into my house unless they use the front
- 19:31door.
- 19:32I mean, they're not going to come in against my knowledge through the back door or through
- 19:38a window.
- 19:39And if you don't give me the power to protect my own home, I'm really not a head of my
- 19:43family.
- 19:44And so if you can't enforce your own borders, you're really not a country.
- 19:48Yeah.
- 19:49And that's sort of the vision of these globalists.
- 19:51They don't want America to be its own separate, independent, free and prosperous nation
- 19:58state.
- 19:59They want it to be just to kind of meld in with the other nations of the earth into some
- 20:05kind of transnational government.
- 20:08So that's why this issue of the borders is a big deal.
- 20:10And our southern border is wide open.
- 20:12And surprise, it's worse than we thought.
- 20:14Yes.
- 20:15Not only is it not only is it a crisis, but now we learn secretly through some great reporters
- 20:20like Todd Benzman, you may have had him on your show before.
- 20:24He does a great job explaining that it's way worse than we thought.
- 20:29The Biden administration without anybody knowing it has been flying people in under the
- 20:35radar.
- 20:36And we know why they're doing it.
- 20:38They're trying to flip Texas from red to blue.
- 20:42And if that happens, you can never see a Republican president, you know, mathematically.
- 20:46It's almost impossible to see a Republican president again.
- 20:50And this allows them to stay in power.
- 20:52So I think the definitive issue that's coming up in this the next election cycle is the
- 20:57border.
- 20:58I mean, are we an independent country that can police are on borders or not?
- 21:01Because if you're not going to give us that ability, we're really not a country anymore.
- 21:05No.
- 21:06And what you're saying is not hyperbole when you talk about Texas flipping, I'll never
- 21:11forget that very close election.
- 21:13I don't know how many years ago between Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke, money poured in from
- 21:18the left and they almost stole that Senate seat from Ted Cruz, really fascinating the
- 21:23battle for Texas.
- 21:25But years ago, I listened to a talk show host Michael Savage, I don't know if you remember
- 21:29him, but he would always preach on borders, language culture, borders, language culture.
- 21:35And your recent pastor's point of view about a week and a half ago, you had a slide in
- 21:39there on nationhood from Andy's YouTube video on borders, common language, the culture,
- 21:46the common culture and common currency.
- 21:49Go ahead and walk through these, I will only have five minutes left, Andy, but go ahead
- 21:52and walk through these and stress whatever points you'd like.
- 21:55Yeah, well, I probably added to Michael Savage's list.
- 22:00Andy may have had three, you know, I have four, but I call these the Sinny Kwanan of
- 22:06nationhood, Sinny Kwanan is Latin and it basically means without which there is not.
- 22:14In other words, you take away one of those things and you're not a country.
- 22:18So what do you have to have to have a country?
- 22:21You've got to have a common currency, you've got to have common language, common culture
- 22:27and enforceable national borders.
- 22:29And you'll notice, David, that today, every single one of those is under severe attack,
- 22:36because they don't like the idea of America, American exceptionalism, America being just
- 22:43not necessarily better than everybody else, but the exception to the rule.
- 22:51America is the exception to the rule.
- 22:54As most of the countries around the world and in human history, by default, have been
- 23:00tyrannical, you know, America is different.
- 23:03Most of the people around the world languish in poverty.
- 23:06America is the exception to the rule, et cetera.
- 23:09So if you want to bring in the new world order, you've got to get rid of American exceptionalism.
- 23:14And what better way to do that than to attack over and over again, the four pillars that
- 23:20you need to have a nation.
- 23:22And remember that God himself established nationhood at the Tower of Babel.
- 23:27Yeah.
- 23:28God says the best way to govern the human race is not through global governance, but through
- 23:33the independent nation state, Satan's agenda is to erase that and move us back to the Tower
- 23:39of Babel.
- 23:40That's what the whole end time scenario is about with an anti-Christ, you know, who will function
- 23:46just like Nimrod did in Genesis 11.
- 23:49So it's just very interesting to me that at this stage in history, this now is the definitive
- 23:55battle.
- 23:56I would say maghaw make America great again is a reaction against this globalism that
- 24:02people are pushing.
- 24:04So on these bullet points, the one that's very curious is the common currency, because
- 24:10that's what the globalists want to get us out of the US dollar and the US dollar is
- 24:14being purposely weakened.
- 24:17And boy, look at this list, Andy, these bullet points and it's somewhat disheartening.
- 24:23If we weren't aware of where America is or is not in Bible prophecy and that they're
- 24:29planned to destroy America, at some day they will probably have some success.
- 24:33But talk about the common currency, where do you see that headed?
- 24:38Well, you know, they're trying to move us away from the dollar into these digital type
- 24:44currencies, central bank digital currencies.
- 24:48There was a great book written by Jerome Corsi a few years back where he was saying the
- 24:55agenda is sort of to regionalize America and make her part of the North American union
- 25:01where they were trying to merge at that time under the second bush, Canada, Mexico and
- 25:11North America into what's called the North American union and to have a common currency
- 25:17between those regions called the euro, you know, phasing out the dollar.
- 25:22It's the exact same thing they did in Europe where they got rid of the individual European
- 25:27currencies and moved, you know, towards the euro because Europe has been regionalized.
- 25:34And my understanding is there's basically going to be ten of these regions around the
- 25:38earth according to Daniel chapter seven and they will eventually be merged into global
- 25:45governance.
- 25:46So regionalism is kind of the stepping stone into global governance.
- 25:51And I think that's the reason these ideas are being pushed today.
- 25:55Andy, wow, we could do, we could do an hour or a couple, yeah, a couple.
- 26:03Anyway, what I, it just goes by so fast.
- 26:05I mean, at least you have an hour and your pastor's point of view, we have a half hour
- 26:09here.
- 26:10But brother, what do you have coming up while we're going to be in April?
- 26:13Yeah, the end of April, April 27th, I think that's a Saturday.
- 26:19I'm going to be hosting the DCY radio rally with Jim Schneider there in Milwaukee.
- 26:28So this will be my first time doing that conference and I'm looking forward to that.
- 26:32Also going to be in Tulsa, Oklahoma at the Mid-America Prophecy Conference featured with, I think
- 26:41it's called the Bible is written.com.
- 26:43So prophecy ministry, Brigette Gabriel, who I think you probably know is also one of
- 26:49the speakers, so that'll be a good time as well.
- 26:51So how do you find the time to do all this?
- 26:56I mean, pasturing a church, you know, you write books, you do your pastor's point of view,
- 27:00you travel.
- 27:01I don't know how you do it, brother, and I'm thankful for the time you take with us.
- 27:05But man, you must have really good assistance.
- 27:09You know what to delegate and your time management, kudos.
- 27:12Don't know how you do it.
- 27:15I'll be honest with you, my wife has been a strong advocate of trying to get me to slow
- 27:19down.
- 27:20So she may be winning the argument at this point, but you know, I have a very good supportive
- 27:25team, you know, both at home and in the church.
- 27:28So it's not, it looks like a one-man show, but that's not what it is.
- 27:32Yeah, it rarely is, but praise God, brother.
- 27:35Thanks for your ministry.
- 27:36We'll talk to you again soon, Lord willing.
- 27:38Thank you.
- 27:39Thanks.
- 27:40All right, guys, thanks so much again for sharing the podcast.
- 27:42God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.