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- 0:00Speaker 1: The car is beautiful.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Where did you end up going for it?
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- 0:31Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
- 0:37Speaker 1: the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is
- 0:41Speaker 1: the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr.
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- 0:57Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
- 1:04Speaker 1: I hope you guys all had a great Halloween and
- 1:07Speaker 1: had fun.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I want to tell you that the day of Halloween,
- 1:13Speaker 2: I was.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Given an incredible suggestion of a Halloween costume. And it
- 1:19Speaker 1: would have been genius. There just wasn't enough time to
- 1:21Speaker 1: get it together. But my Pilates instructor was like, Heather,
- 1:25Speaker 1: I know what you should be. Because she was listening
- 1:28Speaker 1: to Juicy Scoop. And she said, you should be pregnant
- 1:31Speaker 1: Giselle and Peter can be the karate jiu-jitsu guy, whatever.
- 1:39Speaker 1: And I was so excited, but I knew it'd be
- 1:41Speaker 1: hard to get this outfit together. Also, it'd be so
- 1:44Speaker 1: genius because she only announced her pregnancy early in the week.
- 1:49Speaker 1: So nobody could have been that during that big Hollywood,
- 1:54Speaker 1: millions of hot parties, Halloween situation. So I was like,
- 1:59Speaker 1: this will be such an original idea. But there just
- 2:04Speaker 1: wasn't enough time to try to find a karate outfit
- 2:06Speaker 1: for Peter and a baby bump for me because we
- 2:09Speaker 1: were doing stuff that day. So we went as Game
- 2:13Speaker 1: of Thrones and I wore a long blonde wig and
- 2:15Speaker 1: a lot.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Of people just thought I was Cher. So maybe I'll
- 2:17Speaker 2: be Cher next year.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Anyway, it was fun.
- 2:20Speaker 2: I hope you had a good, fun, safe time.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Moving on to this weekend, you guys, I will be
- 2:26Speaker 1: at the Irvine Improv. One show this Friday night, and
- 2:31Speaker 1: then that's stand-up with Julie Goldman, who will also be
- 2:34Speaker 1: doing stand-up before I come on stage. Then two shows
- 2:38Speaker 1: on Saturday, November 9th, 7.30 and 9.30. And then on
- 2:41Speaker 1: November 10th, there is a Juicy Scoop Live. And that's
- 2:50Speaker 1: always so fun. That's at 7 p.m. That is lots
- 2:52Speaker 1: of special guests, special surprises. There's going to be a
- 2:55Speaker 1: Q & A, which I rarely do. So it will
- 2:57Speaker 1: be a little interactive. Lots of really funny, edgy ideas.
- 3:03Speaker 1: This is not streamed. This is not going to be
- 3:05Speaker 1: recorded and played later on any platform. This is only
- 3:09Speaker 1: for the people in the room. So get your tickets
- 3:11Speaker 1: at HeatherMcDonald.net.
- 3:13Speaker 6: Okay.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Well, you know, listen, you guys. Obviously, the news is
- 3:20Speaker 1: all politics. And you come to Juicy Scoop to escape
- 3:24Speaker 1: the political talk and just have some fun and talk
- 3:28Speaker 1: about juicy, frivolous shit. Which, thank you to all the
- 3:32Speaker 1: people that have thanked me for that. Let me tell you,
- 3:34Speaker 1: I've missed out on a lot of great opportunities to
- 3:36Speaker 1: be really fucking funny and make some videos go viral.
- 3:41Speaker 1: But no, I made a commitment to you and I'm
- 3:43Speaker 1: sticking to it. So, as we get through today... This story,
- 3:49Speaker 1: there were other news sources that were trying to do
- 3:52Speaker 1: something other than politics. And this was a big, big deal.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Peanut the squirrel is an adorable squirrel that belongs to
- 4:02Speaker 1: very attractive human squirrel-owning parents. They're all influencers. But I
- 4:08Speaker 1: guess Peanut is the biggest Instagram star in the house.
- 4:12Speaker 1: This is a sad story. He's no longer with us.
- 4:15Speaker 1: This happened in New York City. And people are absolutely
- 4:21Speaker 1: so upset. I saw the TMZ article with the grieving
- 4:25Speaker 1: parents of Peanut. So apparently Peanut, the squirrel pet, was
- 4:33Speaker 1: euthanized by the New York State authorities, triggering significant public outcry.
- 4:39Speaker 1: This was done as part of a rabies test after
- 4:43Speaker 1: someone reportedly said they were bitten by the squirrel. And
- 4:47Speaker 1: the authorities justified their actions by highlighting the illegal nature
- 4:51Speaker 1: of keeping wild animals as pets. Now, the owner, the dad,
- 4:55Speaker 1: Mark Longo, Peanut's owner, along with his supporters, started an
- 5:00Speaker 1: online petition to plan to take legal action against what
- 5:03Speaker 1: they claim was excessive force during the raid. They said
- 5:06Speaker 1: these people came into their house. They separated them. They
- 5:10Speaker 1: found Peanut. There was also a raccoon. But now.
- 5:15Speaker 2: There's other people.
- 5:17Speaker 1: A New York congressman says that he and his fellow
- 5:20Speaker 1: delegates want to answer. They want answers from the governor
- 5:24Speaker 1: about peanut. So now this guy is like standing behind peanut.
- 5:29Speaker 1: And of course, it's sad. Whatever they this peanut was
- 5:33Speaker 1: probably bringing in some money, bringing a lot of joy
- 5:36Speaker 1: to people. I'm sure I'm going to get comments that
- 5:39Speaker 1: are people are like, Heather, this isn't funny. You don't
- 5:41Speaker 1: know who peanut is. You don't know what he brought
- 5:43Speaker 1: to people. I don't. I understand to these people it
- 5:48Speaker 1: must have been like a dog. I don't know who
- 5:51Speaker 1: lied about being bit by Peanut or not. I don't
- 5:55Speaker 1: know if there was surveillance cameras. Peanut didn't get an attorney.
- 5:58Speaker 1: It was a big deal. But they– I mean I
- 6:02Speaker 1: see squirrels all the time and I could see why
- 6:03Speaker 1: someone thinks like I think this squirrel is freaking adorable
- 6:07Speaker 1: and I think I could train it to live in
- 6:09Speaker 1: my house and be perfectly fine. And I guess– Peanut
- 6:12Speaker 1: was perfectly fine. And they're saying, we don't even know
- 6:15Speaker 1: that it bit anybody. Like, well, how did this happen?
- 6:19Speaker 1: And like, it was like a raid, like all these
- 6:22Speaker 1: people came. And then of course people are like, really
- 6:24Speaker 1: with all the shit that's going on in New York city,
- 6:26Speaker 1: this is what our tax dollars, this is where you
- 6:28Speaker 1: put the effort around this little innocent squirrel that, you know,
- 6:33Speaker 1: was just hoping to go to like a revolve party
- 6:37Speaker 1: at stagecoach. I don't know. I don't know. I feel
- 6:40Speaker 1: really badly about, that Mark and his girlfriend or wife,
- 6:44Speaker 1: they were crying. And the TMZ guys were practically crying.
- 6:49Speaker 1: They were very involved with Peanut's life. And so, yeah,
- 6:55Speaker 1: you know, that's a story that doesn't involve politics, but
- 6:59Speaker 1: it does. I see it does. Because why? Why was Peanut...
- 7:05Speaker 1: Why did this happen to Peanut? So I don't know.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Hopefully they can find another squirrel. Maybe they won't. Maybe
- 7:10Speaker 1: they'll realize... You know, squirrels, it's too much of a
- 7:14Speaker 1: risk to have a squirrel living in your house. I
- 7:15Speaker 1: don't know. But they also, I guess there was also
- 7:18Speaker 1: a raccoon that was involved. But I don't know if
- 7:20Speaker 1: that raccoon was an Instagram influencer, too. I don't know,
- 7:26Speaker 1: you guys.
- 7:27Speaker 2: This is the most I got out of the story.
- 7:28Speaker 2: So it's very sad.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Also, over the weekend, I watched the Martha Stewart Netflix doc.
- 7:35Speaker 1: There were stories leading up to this, and I really
- 7:39Speaker 1: enjoyed her. really dry sense of humor. She's like in
- 7:43Speaker 1: her early 80s. She looks amazing. She said she did
- 7:46Speaker 1: not like the special that much. She said it looked
- 7:51Speaker 1: like it was, she portrayed like an old, lonely woman
- 7:54Speaker 1: because they showed her walking around her garden. She has
- 7:57Speaker 1: this incredible property where it looks like she's like the
- 8:00Speaker 1: only gardener there, which obviously they can't be in. It's
- 8:03Speaker 1: like acres and acres, but it's like literally so many
- 8:05Speaker 1: shots of her like driving around in like a tractor
- 8:08Speaker 1: or whatever and like talking about like to people like this,
- 8:12Speaker 1: this one needs to be trimmed this way. It's really
- 8:15Speaker 1: kind of amazing how much she knows. But anyway, she
- 8:18Speaker 1: said that she looked kind of old as she like
- 8:20Speaker 1: walked around with her old walk or whatever, which was
- 8:23Speaker 1: kind of funny. She talked about her husband cheating on
- 8:26Speaker 1: her and said, you know, listen, if your husband's cheating
- 8:30Speaker 1: on you, look at him. like what he is.
- 8:32Speaker 2: He's a piece of shit and get rid of him.
- 8:35Speaker 2: But she didn't get rid of him.
- 8:36Speaker 1: She shared all of her letters that she wrote to
- 8:38Speaker 1: him over and over again, you know, saying that she
- 8:42Speaker 1: was so hurt because he was like a serial cheater.
- 8:45Speaker 1: The worst was that she had this girl working for
- 8:47Speaker 1: her who needed a.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Place to stay.
- 8:49Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, just stay in the, you know,
- 8:51Speaker 1: in the guest house. And then she found out they
- 8:54Speaker 1: were having an affair. So that really sucks when you
- 8:56Speaker 1: hire someone to like, you know, help with your flowers
- 9:00Speaker 1: or whatever, help with your baked goods. And then she's
- 9:03Speaker 1: fucking her husband. So that part was sad. But then
- 9:07Speaker 1: they brought up the fact that she had cheated a
- 9:08Speaker 1: couple of times and she didn't consider it cheating. She's like, oh, please.
- 9:13Speaker 1: It was a brief dalliance with a very attractive Irishman.
- 9:17Speaker 1: You think I was going to leave my husband for
- 9:19Speaker 1: an Irishman? No. He doesn't even know about it. And
- 9:24Speaker 1: then the documentarian is like, no, he did. We talked
- 9:28Speaker 1: to him, and she's like, oh, well, it was an Irishman.
- 9:32Speaker 1: He was attractive, but, I mean, come on.
- 9:36Speaker 2: So that was pretty funny.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Now, it was really great. I think you should watch it.
- 9:43Speaker 1: It really showed what she built and how hard she worked. And,
- 9:48Speaker 1: you know, was she a bitch on occasion because someone
- 9:50Speaker 1: used the wrong knife? Yeah, that's her job. Her job
- 9:53Speaker 1: was to show people that were working for her on
- 9:56Speaker 1: camera– how to make stuff. So if they're using the
- 9:59Speaker 1: wrong knife, she's got to say, hey, you're using the
- 10:02Speaker 1: wrong knife. Like, you work for me. We're not going
- 10:04Speaker 1: to have cameras here. And then have someone see that
- 10:06Speaker 1: you don't even know how to use the proper knife
- 10:09Speaker 1: to dice the onion. So there were a couple moments
- 10:11Speaker 1: where she was a little short with people. Okay, I
- 10:14Speaker 1: don't think that made her sound like a bitch, sound
- 10:17Speaker 1: like a boss. So it was... it's really funny. They
- 10:21Speaker 1: get into her snoop thing and then they get into
- 10:23Speaker 1: why she went to prison. And it definitely seemed a
- 10:26Speaker 1: bit of a witch hunt going after this woman. And, um,
- 10:31Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say it all. So you
- 10:32Speaker 1: guys watch it. I talk about a little bit more
- 10:35Speaker 1: on my next Patreon and get into some more details,
- 10:37Speaker 1: but it's, it's good.
- 10:39Speaker 2: And I have a lot of respect for her and
- 10:40Speaker 2: she is fun. And, um, okay. Now other sad news, Teddy.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Mellencamp of formerly Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She and
- 10:52Speaker 1: her husband, Edwin, of 13 years, she announced on Saturday
- 10:56Speaker 1: that she's getting a divorce. And she said, you know,
- 11:00Speaker 1: I'm coming forward with this before speculation begins, but we
- 11:04Speaker 1: made the difficult decision to divorce. Also, Tamara said on
- 11:11Speaker 1: her show that she has a photo that was sent
- 11:14Speaker 1: to her from Vickie while Vicky was filming the never-to-be-seen
- 11:20Speaker 1: Ultimate Girls trip in Morocco. And she did not show
- 11:24Speaker 1: the photo, Tamara but said, it looked like Brandi was
- 11:29Speaker 1: on top of her and like, you know, Caroline Manzo
- 11:36Speaker 1: couldn't get out and Vicky sent it being like, this
- 11:39Speaker 1: is crazy, whatever. However, most of the girls that were
- 11:43Speaker 1: on that trip have stood up for Brandy saying Brandy
- 11:47Speaker 1: doesn't deserve this. It wasn't the way Caroline has described
- 11:52Speaker 1: in her lawsuit against Bravo.
- 11:54Speaker 2: So by Tamara bringing this up, I feel like this
- 12:00Speaker 2: isn't great for the case.
- 12:02Speaker 1: You know, it's good for Caroline and it's not great
- 12:05Speaker 1: for Bravo. I think she was doing it to get
- 12:09Speaker 1: at Vicky, but I think this wasn't a smart move
- 12:12Speaker 1: to share this publicly because it It doesn't help the
- 12:16Speaker 1: case as far as Caroline suing Bravo. And Bravo is
- 12:20Speaker 1: the employer of all these people. So there you go.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez was out, you know, being photographed and having fun.
- 12:30Speaker 2: And remember, she's in this movie.
- 12:32Speaker 1: It's called Unstoppable that is getting really good reviews. And
- 12:36Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a different role for her,
- 12:38Speaker 1: a more serious role. And Ben Affleck and Matt Damon
- 12:41Speaker 1: were producers. And. He was talking about the movie and
- 12:46Speaker 1: he said Jennifer is great in it. She's fabulous, which
- 12:49Speaker 1: doesn't surprise us. Like he wants the movie to do well.
- 12:53Speaker 1: He doesn't want the narrative to be that he was
- 12:57Speaker 1: an asshole that tricked her into falling back in love
- 13:00Speaker 1: with him and then dumping her. So this is good.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Like this could be the cherry on top of the
- 13:07Speaker 1: divorce cake that they all participate in this movie that
- 13:10Speaker 1: is like really good, well-received. maybe get some awards during
- 13:14Speaker 1: awards season. I said that too. Wouldn't it be great
- 13:18Speaker 1: if she was nominated for some things for her acting
- 13:21Speaker 1: in this movie? And, you know, and falling in love
- 13:25Speaker 1: with him again was just a big three-year mistake on
- 13:29Speaker 1: her part. And she moves along and she walks off
- 13:31Speaker 1: with an Oscar and whatever. But I kind of think
- 13:33Speaker 1: that's what is trying to be put out there at
- 13:36Speaker 1: this time. Well, Yee and Bianca, Kanye, also known as Yee,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and Bianca are talking about starting their own nudist colony.
- 13:47Speaker 1: They are in nudist therapy where they meet with a
- 13:50Speaker 1: therapist that are nude as couples therapy. And according to
- 13:55Speaker 1: these sources, they say, well, we know that she likes
- 13:58Speaker 1: to like walk around partially nude, oftentimes without shoes, which
- 14:03Speaker 1: I feel is the cruelest part of this whole nude thing,
- 14:05Speaker 1: especially when you're at Disneyland. But, um, that what you
- 14:10Speaker 1: don't know is that he loves being nude too and
- 14:13Speaker 1: I am like ew first of all I don't know
- 14:16Speaker 1: if I believe this story at all it's from in
- 14:17Speaker 1: touch weekly this is just like a source told in
- 14:20Speaker 1: touch weekly whatever they want to start a nudist colony
- 14:23Speaker 1: where like people would just like walk around nude which
- 14:26Speaker 1: by the way nudist colonies and like nude beaches and
- 14:29Speaker 1: all that stuff has have existed for a really long
- 14:32Speaker 1: time like nude cruises all this like stuff so I
- 14:36Speaker 1: guess people will like it um But I don't know
- 14:41Speaker 1: that his body's ready to be nude right now. And
- 14:43Speaker 1: he wears a lot of sweats and things. So they're like, no,
- 14:46Speaker 1: you have no idea how much Kanye just loves walking
- 14:49Speaker 1: around nude. It's just so weird. But this might be her.
- 14:56Speaker 1: This is all her, supposedly. So now we go to, like,
- 15:00Speaker 1: it's really Bianca who loves being nude. She has pushed
- 15:04Speaker 1: for it. She loves it.
- 15:05Speaker 6: She....
- 15:07Speaker 1: It's not like she's being forced to wear barely anything.
- 15:12Speaker 2: She loves it. So very weird and interesting.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Lizzo said that she's decided to stop being vegan amid
- 15:22Speaker 1: weight loss journey. So now Lizzo has never said that
- 15:25Speaker 1: she is on Ozempic. She wore an Ozempic really funny costume,
- 15:30Speaker 1: but she's never said that she's been on it. Now,
- 15:34Speaker 1: there's all the different versions of it, but it's basically
- 15:37Speaker 1: are you on the shots that curb your appetite or not?
- 15:41Speaker 1: And most people are that have lost a significant amount
- 15:44Speaker 1: of weight within like a year period. And she's one
- 15:47Speaker 1: of those people, and it's one of the things I predicted.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Right from the start, I said, watch, Lizzo's going to
- 15:53Speaker 1: lose weight, and it's not going to be– it's going
- 15:57Speaker 1: to be received– differently. Some people are going to feel
- 16:00Speaker 1: like you've abandoned your positivity, whatever.
- 16:05Speaker 2: She looks great.
- 16:06Speaker 1: People are still like, let's not forget she was awful
- 16:09Speaker 1: to her dancers who are filing a lawsuit. And I
- 16:11Speaker 1: don't know where that went. I also don't know when
- 16:14Speaker 1: the last time she brought out new music. I hope
- 16:16Speaker 1: she's working on new music, but she looks great. And anyway,
- 16:20Speaker 1: my opinion of her not being vegan is when you're
- 16:23Speaker 1: on these weight loss shots, it's really important that you
- 16:27Speaker 1: eat protein Because you're not that hungry and you want
- 16:30Speaker 1: to eat like salmon, fish, something like that. And I
- 16:34Speaker 1: think it is kind of a hard thing to do
- 16:36Speaker 1: with vegan. And you're like, I don't need to be vegan.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Like I'm barely eating. Let me just have what I want.
- 16:42Speaker 1: So that is what I think is really behind this.
- 16:44Speaker 6: Okay.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Well, you guys have been asking and asking, where is
- 16:49Speaker 1: Meghan Markle's American Riviera Orchard products?
- 16:52Speaker 2: Where is the jam? Where is it?
- 16:55Speaker 1: Like how are we going to get through the holidays
- 16:57Speaker 1: without these products? Well, there's been an issue with the
- 17:01Speaker 1: trademark situation because two things. They're saying it's too similar
- 17:09Speaker 1: to another lifestyle brand called Harry and David's Royal Riviera
- 17:13Speaker 1: Pair Baskets. That is a little similar. And when they
- 17:17Speaker 1: say it's similar, they're saying there's a confusion and we
- 17:19Speaker 1: had it first. So I guess she right now is
- 17:23Speaker 1: still trying to get the trademark. So they protested, the
- 17:27Speaker 1: Harry and David people protested claiming, That it's confusion. Then
- 17:32Speaker 1: they also noted issues. The U.S. patent also said that
- 17:36Speaker 1: there is an issue because Markle's brand name, because it
- 17:40Speaker 1: describes a geographic location, which complicates trademark approvals. There really
- 17:46Speaker 1: is an American Riviera orchard. That's like somewhere near her
- 17:50Speaker 1: house in Montecito. But now she bought a house in Portugal.
- 17:54Speaker 1: So who knows when she's leaving America if this isn't
- 17:57Speaker 1: going to work out. their $ 100 million Netflix deal that
- 18:02Speaker 1: they inked in 2020, for all the content, the $ 100
- 18:06Speaker 1: million worth of content that Netflix was going to reap
- 18:11Speaker 1: from working with Meghan and Harry, that's almost over with.
- 18:18Speaker 1: What did we see? Besides the documentary, am I missing something?
- 18:21Speaker 1: Was there a scripted series? Was there like, a Love
- 18:25Speaker 1: is Blind franchise I missed. Where was all the $ 100
- 18:29Speaker 1: million worth of content that Netflix got besides the documentary
- 18:33Speaker 1: about them? There was nothing else. So that ended just
- 18:38Speaker 1: like the, I don't even know, $ 40 million Spotify deal had.
- 18:43Speaker 1: So she was really putting all her energy into making
- 18:48Speaker 1: some jam that she sent to influencers.
- 18:51Speaker 2: And that has not worked out.
- 18:53Speaker 1: I am telling you guys, we are getting so close
- 18:57Speaker 1: to Meghan Markle joining some type of ladies reality show.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Maybe it won't be Real Housewives. Maybe it'll be.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Something in Portugal. Maybe it'll be the Real Housewives of
- 19:07Speaker 1: Portugal when she goes over there. It looks like her
- 19:10Speaker 1: house is in some part of like a golf country
- 19:13Speaker 1: club situation. That could be fun. There could be like
- 19:16Speaker 1: a mix of expats or whatever or ex-Europeans or all
- 19:19Speaker 1: Europeans or I don't know. who's living in Portugal, but
- 19:22Speaker 1: it sounds like a delightful place to be. And I'm
- 19:27Speaker 1: telling you, that's happening. Of course, there's always rumors that
- 19:29Speaker 1: they're not happy and blah, blah, blah. But we'll see. Also,
- 19:36Speaker 1: that's maybe not a big deal. Maybe she gets her
- 19:38Speaker 1: trademark and you guys eat the jam by Christmas and
- 19:41Speaker 1: you're like, why did Heather even bother talking about that?
- 19:43Speaker 1: I don't know. But I'm telling you, I don't think
- 19:45Speaker 1: the jam's going to be a big deal, a big hit.
- 19:48Speaker 1: And I think we're going to see her on Saturday.
- 19:50Speaker 1: type of reality show, TV, something sooner than we could imagine. Also,
- 19:56Speaker 1: according to New York Post, King Charles has cut off
- 20:00Speaker 1: his brother, Prince Andrew, who was also, you know, best
- 20:04Speaker 1: friend with Epstein, his 1.3 million allowance. This is according
- 20:09Speaker 1: to a book And he lives in this house, Prince Andrew,
- 20:12Speaker 1: and he's like renovated and everything. But he doesn't own it.
- 20:16Speaker 1: It's like this lease that is part of the royals
- 20:19Speaker 1: leasing this land. So if he loses– if this is true,
- 20:23Speaker 1: which is said in this book, and he loses this
- 20:25Speaker 1: allowance that he gets from King Charles, this $ 1. 3 million
- 20:30Speaker 1: a year, that would really cause him to probably have
- 20:32Speaker 1: to move out and he may never reap the benefits
- 20:37Speaker 1: of like renovating this house and, I mean– He doesn't
- 20:41Speaker 1: have his duties anymore. So he's probably like, why do
- 20:43Speaker 1: we have to pay him if he's not doing anything
- 20:45Speaker 1: for us anymore? Because he was such a disgrace because
- 20:47Speaker 1: he was hanging out with Epstein. He did that horrible
- 20:49Speaker 1: interview with the BBC, you know, interviewer where he's like,
- 20:52Speaker 1: I don't sweat. And therefore, you know, this person lied
- 20:57Speaker 1: about me ever being with her at a nightclub and
- 21:00Speaker 1: all the stuff that went on with that story. We
- 21:02Speaker 1: all know he's a piece of shit and he's gross.
- 21:04Speaker 1: So good luck to him. All right, now for a
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- 22:10Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 22:14Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 22:17Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks. and yet somehow have found a
- 22:21Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
- 22:27Speaker 5: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
- 22:30Speaker 5: filed against me.
- 22:31Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
- 22:33Speaker 4: what would you.
- 22:33Speaker 5: Do if it was given back?
- 22:35Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
- 22:38Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
- 22:41Speaker 6: He said, I have a work debt. I need a
- 22:42Speaker 6: home debt. What happens next? When I came in, he
- 22:45Speaker 6: started crying.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
- 22:50Speaker 3: those hard moments that they go through.
- 22:52Speaker 6: It's about what happens next.
- 22:54Speaker 5: I decided to risk it all.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was.
- 22:57Speaker 6: You're worth the work.
- 22:58Speaker 4: Listen, Dar, I'm not going to pull punches.
- 23:00Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
- 23:02Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 23:16Speaker 1: So Tara, tell me a little bit about your background
- 23:19Speaker 1: and how you got into creating your own agency. Yeah.
- 23:24Speaker 4: So I've been working with influencers for 10 years. So
- 23:27Speaker 4: like right when influencers were just becoming a thing and
- 23:29Speaker 4: no one knew what to do with them. And I
- 23:31Speaker 4: just had so many friends that had like millions of
- 23:33Speaker 4: followers and everyone thought if you had millions of followers,
- 23:36Speaker 4: you're making millions of dollars. And there was a lot
- 23:38Speaker 4: of influencers that were broke making nothing, which was like,
- 23:41Speaker 4: People recognize them on the street, but they're broke and
- 23:43Speaker 4: they can't figure.
- 23:44Speaker 6: Out how to make money.
- 23:46Speaker 4: So I started seeing a lot of the problems that
- 23:48Speaker 4: they were dealing with. And I started helping them monetize
- 23:51Speaker 4: in literally every single way you could possibly monetize on
- 23:54Speaker 4: the Internet. And so, you know, I failed. I started
- 23:57Speaker 4: a lot of businesses. I got fucked over in L.A.,
- 23:59Speaker 4: just went through all the Hollywood stuff.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Well, tell me, what is what is your favorite? I
- 24:03Speaker 1: got fucked over stories.
- 24:05Speaker 4: Oh, my favorite one was. this one guy basically came
- 24:10Speaker 4: to me and he was a friend of mine. And
- 24:11Speaker 4: he's like, I have this idea for this platform, but
- 24:14Speaker 4: I need influencers for it. And so he's like, and
- 24:17Speaker 4: I'm like, okay. And then he's like, I'll give you
- 24:19Speaker 4: 50% of it and we'll start building it. So we
- 24:22Speaker 4: started building it for like three months. He found this
- 24:24Speaker 4: investor and was like, hey, if you go sign 10
- 24:28Speaker 4: influencers up on a letter of intent, he'll invest like
- 24:31Speaker 4: a million dollars. So I'm like, okay. So I go
- 24:34Speaker 4: sign um with Dre London I signed Post Malone so
- 24:38Speaker 4: Dre London's his manager I signed like this guy Vitaly
- 24:41Speaker 4: who was a big influencer Helen Owen and Zach like
- 24:43Speaker 4: a bunch of influencers I signed 10 of them my
- 24:46Speaker 4: friend didn't know any of them so I got all
- 24:48Speaker 4: these people to sign up to the idea just off
- 24:51Speaker 4: me pitching it and then the investors like okay I'm
- 24:53Speaker 4: coming in they started the the company formation and all
- 24:56Speaker 4: the stuff and then I went to a meeting with
- 24:58Speaker 4: one of my mentors and he was sitting next to
- 25:01Speaker 4: me And we were talking to him about how to
- 25:02Speaker 4: build the financial aspect of the platform. And the guy's like,
- 25:06Speaker 4: what's the name of the LLC? And then my friend
- 25:09Speaker 4: told him he's like, oh, it's this. And he looked
- 25:11Speaker 4: it up. He's like, OK, so I see you. You
- 25:14Speaker 4: own you own X amount. And then he said the
- 25:17Speaker 4: investor's name. And he's like, and he owns the other amount.
- 25:19Speaker 4: So it's just you two. And I was sitting next
- 25:21Speaker 4: to him and I looked over and I'm like, what?
- 25:24Speaker 4: And then I found out, I called the investor and
- 25:27Speaker 4: he said to the investor that I was just his
- 25:29Speaker 4: assistant helping him gather the talent. And he formed the.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Company behind my back.
- 25:34Speaker 1: How many years ago was this?
- 25:36Speaker 4: It's probably like when I was like 23. So like
- 25:40Speaker 4: probably I'm 30 now.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Is that platform still around?
- 25:44Speaker 4: So then I called all the influencers is the best part.
- 25:47Speaker 4: So I called all the influencers. I said, you can
- 25:49Speaker 4: stay if you want to keep going, but I'm going
- 25:52Speaker 4: to pull out. And every single one of them fell off.
- 25:54Speaker 4: And then fast forward, I have Unruly blow up.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Your agency now.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Yeah, my agency now. I get invited to a meeting
- 26:01Speaker 4: with the owner of a huge platform. I go to
- 26:04Speaker 4: the meeting and I'm sitting down with the owner of
- 26:06Speaker 4: the platform and he comes in as his employee writing
- 26:09Speaker 4: notes for the meeting.
- 26:10Speaker 3: Wow.
- 26:11Speaker 4: It was so fulfilling.
- 26:12Speaker 6: The table's turned.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great female, you fucked me over story
- 26:18Speaker 1: and fuck around and see what happens kind of a story.
- 26:20Speaker 1: I like it.
- 26:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like in LA as like a female
- 26:23Speaker 4: in this industry, people automatically initially will take you, like
- 26:28Speaker 4: put you down or think that you're not going to
- 26:29Speaker 4: be at the level they will. So it's, you get underestimated.
- 26:33Speaker 6: Why do you think that though? I feel like there's
- 26:35Speaker 6: so many successful women that are like just bosses now that,
- 26:41Speaker 6: I don't feel like anyone walks in a room now
- 26:43Speaker 6: and thinks that at all because you know that women
- 26:46Speaker 6: are coming to the table with money. And you make
- 26:48Speaker 6: so much money for these women. It changes their lives
- 26:52Speaker 6: in so many ways.
- 26:52Speaker 1: But I think even 10 years ago, things were really different.
- 26:56Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Even five years ago.
- 26:58Speaker 1: I feel like finally it's kind of leveled out and
- 27:03Speaker 1: is based more on the merit of what you bring
- 27:06Speaker 1: in and not to underestimate people.
- 27:08Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there's just that natural.
- 27:12Speaker 1: assumption of like, Oh, you know, you must be the
- 27:16Speaker 1: cute assistant since you're young and you're cute. You're the
- 27:20Speaker 1: cute young assistant. You know, that was it. Like that
- 27:22Speaker 1: was just, you know, we'd see, you must be in
- 27:25Speaker 1: the mail room.
- 27:26Speaker 6: You know, it's the hot CEO.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, um, So now, okay, so you
- 27:33Speaker 1: guys threw this big Halloween party that's like all over
- 27:36Speaker 1: the news. Crazy. I talked about it on Thursday's show.
- 27:39Speaker 1: I called you, David.
- 27:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
- 27:41Speaker 1: I just said this story is crazy, which was that P.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Diddy's three sons were at your Halloween party with all
- 27:50Speaker 1: these influencers, sexy influencers like OnlyFans people and rock stars
- 27:54Speaker 1: and rappers.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:57Speaker 1: They approached Ray J because they don't like that Ray
- 28:00Speaker 1: J has been speaking about the P. Diddy case and
- 28:03Speaker 1: tried to fight him. And then Chris Brown tried to
- 28:07Speaker 1: step in and break it up. And I'm like, this or,
- 28:09Speaker 1: and then your name is thrown in it, David. And
- 28:11Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I immediately texted you and I'm like,
- 28:15Speaker 1: what the, what is this? And then I'm like, and
- 28:17Speaker 1: what was everybody dressed as? Because that's the most important
- 28:20Speaker 1: part of the story.
- 28:21Speaker 6: Well, Ray J went dressed as Kanye.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Amazing.
- 28:24Speaker 6: But we'll get to that. First of all, that was
- 28:26Speaker 6: the fifth party that she's done. And I've been to
- 28:29Speaker 6: five of the four and this party every year is
- 28:32Speaker 6: the hottest Halloween party by far. I mean, it's taken like,
- 28:36Speaker 6: forget about like the playboy mansion or the Maxim party
- 28:39Speaker 6: or whatever. The unruly party is that party.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Okay. And I'm being invited next year. Thank you.
- 28:45Speaker 6: Everybody fights to get into this party. I mean, like
- 28:49Speaker 6: lines of people, bands, and there's a whole process to
- 28:52Speaker 6: get vetted and in and You know, it is the
- 28:54Speaker 6: sexy people. It is the beautiful people. It is the
- 28:56Speaker 6: famous people. This year, I brought clients of mine and
- 29:01Speaker 6: friends of mine. I brought Amber Rose and I brought
- 29:03Speaker 6: Ray J. And, you know, the party was going amazing.
- 29:08Speaker 6: We just had a good time. There was nothing. Nothing
- 29:11Speaker 6: was bad inside. Everybody was partying. Ray was partying with Chris,
- 29:15Speaker 6: with Tyga. Amber was doing her thing.
- 29:18Speaker 4: Ty Dolla Sign was there.
- 29:19Speaker 6: Ty Dolla Sign.
- 29:20Speaker 4: Laina Barker came. Anwar Hadid. Literally so many people.
- 29:24Speaker 6: Came to watch. Tana, of course. And everything was great.
- 29:27Speaker 6: We were just having a ball. And there is a
- 29:29Speaker 6: lot of content being shot there. So you would think
- 29:32Speaker 6: that if there was any kind of kerfuffle of sorts,
- 29:35Speaker 6: it would be video everywhere of that. But the party
- 29:39Speaker 6: was great. And then when we were leaving, you know,
- 29:42Speaker 6: everyone was kind of in masks and I have my security.
- 29:47Speaker 6: Chris was kind of in front of us. Me and
- 29:48Speaker 6: Ray and Amber were walking out and then like three
- 29:51Speaker 6: boys in masks just like came up and just started.
- 29:54Speaker 6: I couldn't even really hear what they were saying, but
- 29:56Speaker 6: they just pressed Ray. They were pressing him and pressing him.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Physically pressing.
- 30:01Speaker 6: Pressing in the world of hip hop means to come
- 30:03Speaker 6: up and sort of just be aggressive with somebody and
- 30:06Speaker 6: kind of be like, yo, this is X, Y, and Z.
- 30:08Speaker 6: And it just didn't really make any sense. So them being,
- 30:12Speaker 6: Ray was actually at that moment ready to fight. I mean,
- 30:15Speaker 6: it was, because this was the third time that one
- 30:19Speaker 6: of the kids had approached him and said that he
- 30:22Speaker 6: wasn't to be talking about his father. Now, Ray is
- 30:26Speaker 6: a television star. We have our own outlets, our own networks,
- 30:29Speaker 6: our own TV shows, and he's on television every day.
- 30:32Speaker 6: So if you're in an interview and you're being asked
- 30:35Speaker 6: about cultural pop culture news and you have an opinion
- 30:38Speaker 6: of something, you have every right to say it. You
- 30:40Speaker 6: can't stop him. Nobody is bigger than the next person.
- 30:44Speaker 6: And I think that Ray felt you can't keep continuing
- 30:48Speaker 6: to go and press me. So at that moment... just
- 30:52Speaker 6: all hell broke loose. They started to kind of like
- 30:55Speaker 6: bump each other and got a little wild. Chris Brown
- 30:57Speaker 6: ran to the side, pulled the Diddy Boys off and
- 31:00Speaker 6: me and my security pulled Ray off. And it was like,
- 31:03Speaker 6: we're not going to ruin the unruly party with this
- 31:07Speaker 6: stuff because this is what- It's called.
- 31:08Speaker 1: The unruly party. It kind of is appropriate.
- 31:11Speaker 6: I was like, I'm like, of course, like I bring
- 31:13Speaker 6: my clients to the unruly party to hang out that like,
- 31:16Speaker 6: we also want unruly and DWE to be in business
- 31:19Speaker 6: with these people. And then all hell breaks loose there.
- 31:22Speaker 6: So luckily I think that we avoided, you know, a
- 31:26Speaker 6: big sort of a bigger problem because Ray's not a
- 31:30Speaker 6: guy to play around with. And I mean, it could
- 31:33Speaker 6: have gotten very serious very quickly. And that's a scary moment.
- 31:37Speaker 1: So who broke it up?
- 31:38Speaker 2: The security people?
- 31:39Speaker 6: No, Chris and I.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Oh, Chris Brown. That's right.
- 31:42Speaker 6: He was there.
- 31:43Speaker 4: And Amber Rose was there.
- 31:44Speaker 6: And Amber. And Amber's like, why am I in the
- 31:46Speaker 6: middle of this? It was kind of just a weird,
- 31:50Speaker 6: but that's like the normal world. I mean, you know,
- 31:54Speaker 6: for me, I have such an eclectic group of clients.
- 31:57Speaker 6: I mean, I have rappers, rock stars, reality stars, influencers,
- 32:01Speaker 6: you know, pop culture people that are famous for two
- 32:04Speaker 6: minutes for whatever reason. Like, I have a lot of
- 32:06Speaker 6: very interesting clients. So like that group moving around in
- 32:10Speaker 6: that group's party is just a big menagerie of craziness,
- 32:15Speaker 6: as you can imagine. Cause the unruly party is the
- 32:18Speaker 6: unruly party for a reason.
- 32:20Speaker 2: So then they, so then it all ended.
- 32:22Speaker 6: Okay. So for now, for today, we'll see what happens
- 32:26Speaker 6: after this podcast, but fuck them. Don't fucking press. Right.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Wait, I think this is pretty amazing. This is TMZ.
- 32:33Speaker 1: This is your client. Um, little baby.
- 32:36Speaker 6: No, this is my friend's client, but this is a
- 32:38Speaker 6: gig that I did.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So what is this story?
- 32:42Speaker 6: So, you know, the personal appearance business is the business. So, like,
- 32:47Speaker 6: they had personal appearances at their party where people were performing,
- 32:50Speaker 6: and that's not considered a concert because you're not selling
- 32:52Speaker 6: tickets to it. So, like, a personal appearance is when
- 32:55Speaker 6: you bring in a celebrity to do a private show.
- 32:58Speaker 6: And that is what we're doing. This is one I
- 33:00Speaker 6: did a couple.
- 33:00Speaker 1: I mean, that's like Beyonce at the Atlantis opening in Dubai. Like,
- 33:04Speaker 1: the biggest stars, they'll pay... So there's enough rich people
- 33:08Speaker 1: that will pay to have their favorite person at their event.
- 33:11Speaker 6: Yes. And I have a lot of those clients. And
- 33:14Speaker 6: this particular bar mitzvah, this is a really wonderful Persian
- 33:18Speaker 6: Jewish family who I've done a number of parties for.
- 33:20Speaker 6: They're great, very generous, and they just want to have
- 33:23Speaker 6: their guests have the best time. And we brought in
- 33:27Speaker 6: Lil Baby to do a private show for the kids.
- 33:30Speaker 6: And it was a surprise.
- 33:31Speaker 1: For the bar mitzvah.
- 33:32Speaker 6: For the bar mitzvah.
- 33:32Speaker 1: I love it.
- 33:33Speaker 6: And, you know, this is, you know, a lot of
- 33:35Speaker 6: money is exchanging hands and, you know, people are doing.
- 33:39Speaker 6: I mean, to have your dream rapper come to your
- 33:43Speaker 6: bar mitzvah is there is nothing like that in the world.
- 33:48Speaker 6: And the thing is, Lil Baby is a complete professional.
- 33:51Speaker 6: He was on the plane on time. He was there early.
- 33:52Speaker 6: He took all the pictures. He did an incredible show.
- 33:54Speaker 6: The family is happy. And then when you do that
- 33:57Speaker 6: kind of gig for me, I have 10 other. families
- 34:01Speaker 6: and now want me to go and do their parties
- 34:04Speaker 6: and go bring them their talent you know well we
- 34:06Speaker 6: need a comedian i'm hiring you.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Yes this is what this is what i have been
- 34:10Speaker 1: manifesting okay is as a comedian i won't just do
- 34:18Speaker 1: my hour stand-up no for the right price yes does
- 34:22Speaker 1: your wife love housewives and want all the dish and
- 34:27Speaker 1: want me to do all the impressions and hang out
- 34:29Speaker 1: with she and her friends on the mega yacht in Dubai, whatever,
- 34:36Speaker 1: that is Lifestyles of the Rich and Funny, and you
- 34:41Speaker 1: bring me in. Wow.
- 34:43Speaker 6: So are we using... It's hanging out.
- 34:46Speaker 1: It's a little more of a hangout. So it's not
- 34:48Speaker 1: the 30-minute, you know, rap bit for the kids, because
- 34:53Speaker 1: I don't think that's... I don't know that I can
- 34:55Speaker 1: pull that. But the experience... of having me be one
- 34:59Speaker 1: of the girlfriends of all your rich friends and kind
- 35:03Speaker 1: of being the court gesture for the right price.
- 35:07Speaker 6: Could this be a paywall kind of business for us?
- 35:09Speaker 2: For the right price, I will do it.
- 35:11Speaker 6: You tested it with her?
- 35:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Go on the trip.
- 35:14Speaker 4: She's different, different.
- 35:15Speaker 6: Comedian, definitely different.
- 35:16Speaker 3: Right, right.
- 35:17Speaker 4: But definitely a cool industry for sure.
- 35:19Speaker 1: We'll see. I feel like that can happen.
- 35:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:22Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen.
- 35:24Speaker 6: I like that, though.
- 35:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.
- 35:26Speaker 6: Let's think about it. We'll have to sidebar about that one.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. So, OK, so wait, just as we'll finish
- 35:34Speaker 1: just getting into this.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Yes.
- 35:36Speaker 1: So, you know, the latest with the P. Diddy is
- 35:40Speaker 1: we still have no other celebrity names. However, this guy,
- 35:44Speaker 1: Courtney Burgess, he's a witness. He did testify for the
- 35:48Speaker 1: grand jury saying that. that he got videos on a
- 35:53Speaker 1: zip drive from Kim Porter that were freak-off type parties.
- 35:57Speaker 1: It looked like people, everybody involved but Diddy were victims,
- 36:01Speaker 1: and two to three were possibly underage, looked to be,
- 36:06Speaker 1: and there were some celebrities, but he didn't say any
- 36:07Speaker 1: names or anything. So that's the latest on that. So,
- 36:13Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people think he's not even
- 36:15Speaker 1: in prison. A lot of people think he was switched
- 36:17Speaker 1: on Saturday.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Wow.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Or he's already been switched because they did a raid
- 36:21Speaker 1: on the prison.
- 36:23Speaker 6: What do you mean by switched? You mean that it's
- 36:25Speaker 6: not him?
- 36:25Speaker 1: It's a dupe. It's a dupe. That's actually in prison.
- 36:28Speaker 6: And then where is he? Is he dead?
- 36:32Speaker 1: Alive? Oh, alive. Alive somewhere. I think alive somewhere. I'm
- 36:37Speaker 1: saying if we're going to go down the route, if
- 36:40Speaker 1: you were in that position, let's say you're innocent.
- 36:43Speaker 6: You're P.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Diddy, you're innocent, but it looks like the cards are
- 36:45Speaker 1: stacked against you. And there is an opportunity for you
- 36:48Speaker 1: to go to an island somewhere and not have to
- 36:52Speaker 1: face possible life in prison. But you're never going to
- 36:55Speaker 1: be P. Diddy. You're never going to have fun parties anymore.
- 36:58Speaker 1: You're never going to have power. You're never going to
- 36:59Speaker 1: make music again. You're just going to be safe on
- 37:01Speaker 1: an island in a nice house, whatever. Would that even
- 37:07Speaker 1: be something that would be satisfying to your life? I
- 37:09Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's crazy because who's the person?
- 37:14Speaker 1: Who's the person that's like, oh, I'll take over and
- 37:16Speaker 1: never say anything and get plastic surgery and look like you?
- 37:20Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 37:21Speaker 6: It's a robot.
- 37:22Speaker 4: That's true.
- 37:23Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 37:23Speaker 2: I don't necessarily believe that. I think he is there.
- 37:26Speaker 1: But, you know, with everything that you guys like touching on,
- 37:31Speaker 1: I just want to kind of get your general, like,
- 37:33Speaker 1: what is the vibe? Are people scared that names are
- 37:37Speaker 1: going to be called? Because I'm like, we never knew
- 37:38Speaker 1: any names in Epstein. We never... got any real, no
- 37:42Speaker 1: other person went down for that. So I'm kind of like,
- 37:45Speaker 1: name them.
- 37:45Speaker 4: I thought so many people came out about Epstein that
- 37:48Speaker 4: were associated with it, but like nothing ever happens.
- 37:51Speaker 6: Well, the list of all the people on the planes
- 37:53Speaker 6: and things like that. But it's, I mean, look, if
- 37:58Speaker 6: there was eight sex tapes that existed with all of
- 38:02Speaker 6: these people, there is about zero chance that it would
- 38:08Speaker 6: be able to be suppressed for that long in this
- 38:12Speaker 6: market without somebody either leaking clips of it or shopping
- 38:16Speaker 6: it at this point and it's not the same era
- 38:19Speaker 6: of a lot of stuff that we obviously lived through
- 38:21Speaker 6: with like you know the ray j kim sex tape
- 38:24Speaker 6: that was a different era you know that was a
- 38:26Speaker 6: business papers were signed a product comes out a video
- 38:29Speaker 6: is sold you know makes 200 million this is a
- 38:32Speaker 6: time when this is about like illegal activities that may
- 38:36Speaker 6: have been influenced by partying. So this is a very weird,
- 38:40Speaker 6: touchy time. If it's going to come out, I think
- 38:43Speaker 6: you already would have seen a little bit of it
- 38:46Speaker 6: because the only way to get people active in that
- 38:49Speaker 6: world is to drop the photo of it or to
- 38:52Speaker 6: drop the little leak because that makes everybody scurry to
- 38:55Speaker 6: make sure it goes away.
- 38:58Speaker 1: I mean, I think what happened is why it came
- 39:00Speaker 1: down is exactly that. I think he like Epstein, filmed
- 39:04Speaker 1: it all for his own archives joy, but also like blackmail.
- 39:10Speaker 1: I do think Kim Porter got hold of it. And
- 39:14Speaker 1: maybe she, you know, and maybe when she presented it
- 39:17Speaker 1: to him, that's what happened. And then someone else got it.
- 39:21Speaker 1: And so we'll see. But like, I hate that every
- 39:24Speaker 1: week there's like 15 articles like this. And we'll, you know,
- 39:29Speaker 1: the trial isn't foretold. months and months so I don't
- 39:31Speaker 1: know like I'm just we'll we'll see what happens if
- 39:35Speaker 1: anybody gets mentioned you know.
- 39:38Speaker 4: What's crazy to me is the kids like Justin Combs
- 39:42Speaker 4: and Sean Combs, all of them were living at the
- 39:45Speaker 4: peak in LA. They threw all the parties. They were
- 39:49Speaker 4: just living the life, dating all these famous influencer girls.
- 39:52Speaker 4: They were having the life. It's just wild to me
- 39:55Speaker 4: to watch them, their whole world be changed.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Remember when Steve Harvey's stepdaughter dated Sean, dated P. Diddy's
- 40:07Speaker 1: son and then started dating P. Diddy?
- 40:10Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 40:10Speaker 4: I've seen, I've heard of things like that, that like
- 40:12Speaker 4: he's dated people that his sons have dated.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Yes.
- 40:14Speaker 1: But then also like America's dad, Steve Harvey was like,
- 40:18Speaker 1: okay with that. Makes people, makes you go, what the hell?
- 40:22Speaker 1: Who knew what? Or maybe you didn't know anything.
- 40:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Maybe you were like, whatever.
- 40:26Speaker 1: She's an adult. He's delightful to me. We've always been friendly.
- 40:29Speaker 1: I mean, just because there's people with photos with him
- 40:32Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Like if I was at a party
- 40:34Speaker 1: and P. Diddy was there and someone was like, let
- 40:37Speaker 1: me get a photo of you. I'd be like, Three
- 40:39Speaker 1: years ago. And then it would look like I did
- 40:41Speaker 1: something weird.
- 40:42Speaker 6: Well, people are only looking at it like that now.
- 40:44Speaker 6: I mean, that's what they're saying now, you know?
- 40:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:48Speaker 6: I mean, I went to Diddy's 50th birthday and I
- 40:53Speaker 6: went to Diddy's Super Bowl party in Miami right before COVID.
- 40:59Speaker 6: Those were dope parties. There was nothing weird going on.
- 41:03Speaker 6: I didn't see anything weird going on. Every celebrity was
- 41:07Speaker 6: there and they were having a good time, but it
- 41:08Speaker 6: wasn't like some sex party. It was a regular party.
- 41:12Speaker 2: But how long did you stay?
- 41:13Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't there until five in the morning,
- 41:15Speaker 6: but I was there probably until like two. There was
- 41:19Speaker 6: no secret room that I saw or like some weird
- 41:23Speaker 6: thing going on. It was a party. It was a
- 41:25Speaker 6: birthday party. It was a Super Bowl party. Now, look,
- 41:28Speaker 6: I'm sure as the hours get weirder and the drugs
- 41:31Speaker 6: start to kick in and the alcohol goes crazier- and
- 41:34Speaker 6: the regular people leave that aren't in that little circle,
- 41:37Speaker 6: the weird shit may start to go down. But isn't
- 41:40Speaker 6: that at any party in the world? Like, isn't there like,
- 41:44Speaker 6: there's always like the party and then the after party.
- 41:47Speaker 6: And I'm not condoning any of that stuff, but I'm
- 41:48Speaker 6: saying a lot of people went to those parties and
- 41:52Speaker 6: did not see anything. So, so you cannot be shocked
- 41:55Speaker 6: in any way that they're like, well, how did you
- 41:57Speaker 6: not know? How did you not know? Ray J is
- 41:59Speaker 6: on TV talking about it. He didn't know he, he
- 42:02Speaker 6: traveled the world with Diddy. He never saw, I mean,
- 42:04Speaker 6: if something like that really was happening, happening, that's happening
- 42:09Speaker 6: with a very small group of people in a very
- 42:12Speaker 6: tight and inner circle.
- 42:13Speaker 1: Well, I feel like this on a much lower level
- 42:16Speaker 1: is like, I have never tried cocaine. I've never done it.
- 42:19Speaker 1: I've never tried it. And What I've always realized with
- 42:23Speaker 1: that is even though I wouldn't care if we were
- 42:25Speaker 1: hanging out and you guys did a line, whatever, that's
- 42:27Speaker 1: your business, whatever. I'd be like, be careful.
- 42:29Speaker 6: You got some?
- 42:30Speaker 1: Be careful there's no fentanyl in it. Be sure it's
- 42:33Speaker 1: not pink. Like I would be like concerned today. But
- 42:35Speaker 1: let's just say five years ago. I wouldn't care and
- 42:37Speaker 1: I would never judge.
- 42:38Speaker 2: I would never tell.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Right. But what I've noticed is I've literally never seen
- 42:43Speaker 1: anyone do it since I was like 19.
- 42:44Speaker 6: Because they know you don't do it.
- 42:46Speaker 1: They know I don't do it. They keep it very private.
- 42:48Speaker 1: And I kind of think this is probably the same thing.
- 42:51Speaker 1: If they know you're not down and you're not going
- 42:53Speaker 1: to be participatory, then they don't want you to know
- 42:56Speaker 1: that they do it. And so they keep it very separate.
- 42:59Speaker 1: And so the night that you have with Diddy is
- 43:02Speaker 1: going to be very different than somebody else.
- 43:05Speaker 6: Very true.
- 43:06Speaker 2: So I think it's very similar to that.
- 43:08Speaker 1: And so then when people say, did you see anything weird?
- 43:11Speaker 1: To me, Heather, did you ever see this person do something?
- 43:14Speaker 1: I can honestly say no. No, I never did. You know,
- 43:18Speaker 1: they knew that wasn't my thing. I had cocktails with them,
- 43:21Speaker 1: you know, but that was it. So it's like I
- 43:24Speaker 1: think it could be kind of like that. Now, getting
- 43:27Speaker 1: back to your to your business and stuff. OK, let's
- 43:32Speaker 1: talk a little bit about OnlyFans because, you know, when
- 43:36Speaker 1: it first started, it was like, oh, my God, this
- 43:38Speaker 1: is like a way for an independent woman to. be
- 43:43Speaker 1: in charge of her sexy whatever, porn. But then we realized, no,
- 43:48Speaker 1: it's all these different levels and all this stuff. Content. Content.
- 43:51Speaker 6: All content.
- 43:52Speaker 1: But I'm saying what it originally was, it was like,
- 43:54Speaker 1: oh my gosh. And it was good, because it was like,
- 43:58Speaker 1: in my day, there's a ton of really interesting documentaries
- 44:02Speaker 1: about the porn industry in the Valley from 25 years ago.
- 44:06Speaker 1: And I was fascinated with porn documentaries.
- 44:10Speaker 6: Which one are you talking about?
- 44:11Speaker 1: All of them. Anything. I was I was there was
- 44:14Speaker 1: like a I don't know why. I like I was
- 44:18Speaker 1: just fascinated by it. The women, how they'd be interviewed,
- 44:22Speaker 1: what they would say, what they would do. And even
- 44:24Speaker 1: back then they were like, no, I love it. You know,
- 44:26Speaker 1: and then there'd be someone that didn't love it, whatever.
- 44:28Speaker 1: And I always found it interesting. Like whether it was
- 44:32Speaker 1: the story of Tracy Lords, who was this girl who
- 44:37Speaker 1: was doing porn and was making it huge. And then
- 44:40Speaker 1: they found out that she was actually under 18 when
- 44:43Speaker 1: these movies were made. But then there was a whole
- 44:45Speaker 1: thing was like, no, she knew what she was doing
- 44:47Speaker 1: and she wanted this news to get out. And then she,
- 44:50Speaker 1: became like a mainstream real actress. So there was always
- 44:52Speaker 1: this like, oh, if you do this, even like Boogie Nights,
- 44:55Speaker 1: the movie of Boogie Nights, all that kind of stuff.
- 44:57Speaker 1: And now like that whole industry of like, okay, how
- 45:02Speaker 1: many movies are you going to do? But you don't
- 45:03Speaker 1: own it. You're just an actress. That feels like that
- 45:06Speaker 1: doesn't even exist anymore.
- 45:08Speaker 6: Well, the scale is so different now because this phone
- 45:11Speaker 6: has changed your life. I mean- The amount of people
- 45:14Speaker 6: that you can reach instantly and secretively and control what's
- 45:18Speaker 6: coming out, why would you go and work for someone else?
- 45:21Speaker 1: Right.
- 45:22Speaker 6: What's the point? If you have smart people that know
- 45:24Speaker 6: how to market you like this woman and you have
- 45:27Speaker 6: content that is great and you're beautiful and you're having fun,
- 45:31Speaker 6: I mean, there's millions if not billions of dollars that
- 45:36Speaker 6: can be made and you're in control of this. You
- 45:37Speaker 6: don't have to do anything that you don't want to
- 45:39Speaker 6: do and you're in control of everything in your life.
- 45:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say something that's interesting to
- 45:44Speaker 4: me is like back in the day, people were lining
- 45:47Speaker 4: up like girls were lining up to pose nude in
- 45:50Speaker 4: Playboy for free.
- 45:52Speaker 5: Right.
- 45:52Speaker 6: Basically for $ 2, 500.
- 45:54Speaker 4: There were so many girls that didn't get paid and
- 45:55Speaker 4: they just want to do it for the fame or
- 45:57Speaker 4: be around Hugh Hefner and all that stuff. So like
- 46:00Speaker 4: it's interesting to me because the moment like female empowerment
- 46:03Speaker 4: came into place and now all these girls are rising
- 46:07Speaker 4: up and taking on their own stuff and doing their
- 46:09Speaker 4: own businesses and becoming smarter. is kind of in the
- 46:12Speaker 4: shift with OnlyFans coming out. And I think the biggest
- 46:15Speaker 4: misconception is that OnlyFans is all porn. Because when I
- 46:21Speaker 4: first saw this industry, the only reason I even touched it,
- 46:23Speaker 4: because it was so drastically different from anything I did,
- 46:26Speaker 4: and I didn't want to be in that space initially,
- 46:29Speaker 4: was because it's the exact same thing as an e-commerce store.
- 46:33Speaker 4: So the only difference from Fashion Nova, like the brand
- 46:36Speaker 4: name Fashion Nova with all the products, the only difference
- 46:39Speaker 4: is that they're selling products. And on this website, brands website,
- 46:42Speaker 4: which is the talent's name and has things for sale
- 46:45Speaker 4: is that it's content. So it's actually ran very similarly
- 46:49Speaker 4: to an e-commerce website. And so I helped creators create
- 46:51Speaker 4: their own brands. And I used to see that like, oh, wow,
- 46:55Speaker 4: there's only a certain percent that will buy a hairbrush
- 46:57Speaker 4: from this creator that even care about that.
- 46:59Speaker 5: Right.
- 47:00Speaker 4: But 100 percent of their fans are following them to
- 47:02Speaker 4: see more of them. And so if you put a
- 47:04Speaker 4: paywall in front of it, there's people that will pay
- 47:07Speaker 4: just to talk to them, just to ask them, what
- 47:09Speaker 4: are you doing today? Or, can I have a private
- 47:11Speaker 4: tour of your room and your house and pay thousands
- 47:14Speaker 4: of dollars where they're like, here's my bedroom. This is
- 47:16Speaker 4: my doggy fluff. Like we're the things that are being
- 47:20Speaker 4: sold is insane just because it's, it's more access to
- 47:23Speaker 4: your favorite creator. So if you use it in that way,
- 47:26Speaker 4: girls don't have to go fully nude or do that
- 47:28Speaker 4: type of stuff. And so that's where our sweet spot
- 47:30Speaker 4: has been is that literally there's only like a very
- 47:34Speaker 4: few select creators that actually show a nipple that are
- 47:36Speaker 4: signed to me and the rest of them don't do
- 47:38Speaker 4: any nudity. And so at the end of the day,
- 47:41Speaker 4: we let the talent decide like, what do you want
- 47:43Speaker 4: to do? It's their choice 100%. But the main thing
- 47:46Speaker 4: is that I think that the reason it monetizes so
- 47:48Speaker 4: well is people want to have, people are willing to
- 47:51Speaker 4: pay for more access. If you think about Netflix, like
- 47:55Speaker 4: Netflix proved that the content is valuable enough and people
- 47:58Speaker 4: will pay not to have to see an ad. And
- 48:00Speaker 4: so it's the same thing now it's going into the
- 48:02Speaker 4: creator space. People don't want to see you hold up your,
- 48:04Speaker 4: you know, your sponsored posts or say to buy this
- 48:07Speaker 4: and buy that. People will pay to have content and
- 48:10Speaker 4: more access to you. And so I think the world
- 48:12Speaker 4: is changing and the paywall industry is becoming more and
- 48:15Speaker 4: more powerful. So anything that you can pay to have
- 48:17Speaker 4: access or content without ads, people are doing. And I
- 48:20Speaker 4: think it's going to become bigger and bigger and bigger
- 48:22Speaker 4: and bigger, like Instagram launched the subscription, like everyone's trying
- 48:25Speaker 4: to figure out how.
- 48:26Speaker 1: To do this. So I mean, does it kill your...
- 48:29Speaker 1: entrepreneurial math brain that Britney is doing what she's doing.
- 48:35Speaker 1: And why is she not on an OnlyFans?
- 48:38Speaker 4: The reason why I've tried to get her multiple times.
- 48:41Speaker 4: The reason why is because she has to deal with
- 48:43Speaker 4: like some very brand friendly. I think it's like Disney
- 48:47Speaker 4: or someone is doing some big deal with her. So
- 48:50Speaker 4: she can't be on OnlyFans or look at But it's
- 48:52Speaker 4: interesting because she's giving it for free.
- 48:54Speaker 1: I don't know. You're saying right now she can't sign,
- 48:58Speaker 1: but you think she was actually interested in possibly doing that?
- 49:01Speaker 4: I would assume that she would have done based off
- 49:03Speaker 4: what I've heard, yes.
- 49:05Speaker 6: I just made Britney Spears a $ 10 million offer to
- 49:08Speaker 6: sit down for a one-hour interview, which she turned down.
- 49:14Speaker 6: So clearly, and this was a real offer, a real buyer.
- 49:18Speaker 2: Well, thank you for representing.
- 49:20Speaker 1: Me in that. And I'm so disappointed that it did
- 49:22Speaker 1: not work out. I am willing to go down a
- 49:25Speaker 1: couple mil if you want to go back.
- 49:26Speaker 6: 10 million for one hour. She doesn't need to do any,
- 49:30Speaker 6: she doesn't want to do anything. And the people that
- 49:32Speaker 6: are around her don't want her to do anything. And
- 49:35Speaker 6: this was an offer that was made directly to her
- 49:38Speaker 6: with No agents, no managers, just people that are really
- 49:43Speaker 6: like with her saying, here's $ 10 million. All you have
- 49:47Speaker 6: to do is sit down for an hour. I'm kind
- 49:49Speaker 6: of glad that she turned it down because I feel
- 49:52Speaker 6: like the feedback I got of where she is in
- 49:55Speaker 6: her life right now, the interview wouldn't have gone well
- 49:59Speaker 6: for her. And you wouldn't have been able to maybe
- 50:01Speaker 6: recover from whatever comes out from that interview. And that's
- 50:05Speaker 6: a sad, scary thing. but at the same time, my
- 50:07Speaker 6: client wanted me to make the offer. I made the
- 50:09Speaker 6: offer and here we are.
- 50:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I mean, that's been
- 50:16Speaker 1: the thing that like Spencer Pratt has said from the
- 50:18Speaker 1: very beginning, like, why is she just giving it all?
- 50:22Speaker 1: Because no matter what, I mean, she's turned off the comments,
- 50:24Speaker 1: but she'll still get hundreds of thousands of likes and views.
- 50:28Speaker 1: And obviously she likes doing it because that's giving her
- 50:31Speaker 1: some feedback while she's just alone in her house, spinning
- 50:34Speaker 1: around in her brown sensible pumps and, Bikini and fur
- 50:37Speaker 1: hat like, you know, and but yeah, I guess she
- 50:42Speaker 1: you know, I guess she won't. But I think at
- 50:44Speaker 1: one point maybe she will.
- 50:45Speaker 4: I think the cool way to look at it, too,
- 50:47Speaker 4: is like I think a lot of these females started
- 50:49Speaker 4: to realize that did go on OnlyFans is like I
- 50:52Speaker 4: they were all posting photos and bikinis and all this
- 50:55Speaker 4: stuff for free.
- 50:56Speaker 2: Right.
- 50:56Speaker 4: And so now they're like, OK, you're going to judge
- 50:58Speaker 4: me because now I'm selling that same photo I used
- 51:01Speaker 4: to post for free. That's why it's like this. Yes,
- 51:03Speaker 4: there's a lot of porn on OnlyFans. So there's girls
- 51:05Speaker 4: that do porn. But there's a lot of girls that
- 51:07Speaker 4: are literally selling the same photo that they could easily
- 51:10Speaker 4: post for free on Instagram that wouldn't get shadow banned
- 51:12Speaker 4: because it's aligned with Instagram's terms and services. It's not porn.
- 51:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 51:17Speaker 4: And they're selling it for like $ 50 a sell. And
- 51:20Speaker 4: just something about the people buying that they have access
- 51:24Speaker 4: to it. It's them. No one else is seeing it.
- 51:26Speaker 6: It's kind of like an NFT in a weird way.
- 51:28Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an NFT.
- 51:30Speaker 6: It's got that feeling that you're the only one that
- 51:32Speaker 6: has this piece of content. And you've got to think,
- 51:35Speaker 6: your phone, you're reaching the world. A DVD can only
- 51:39Speaker 6: move as far as somebody walking in a store and
- 51:42Speaker 6: buying it. This is access to everything. So the amount
- 51:47Speaker 6: of money that's made so quickly. Five years ago when
- 51:51Speaker 6: I met Tara and we mutually represent Tana, Mojo. And
- 51:57Speaker 6: I learned a whole business that I was trying to
- 52:00Speaker 6: understand that she came and basically gave me the five
- 52:03Speaker 6: bullet points of how this thing works. And once you
- 52:06Speaker 6: understand how that works, you can cross everybody over into
- 52:10Speaker 6: this side and into my side very easily. You just
- 52:13Speaker 6: have to have the ability, the look, the style and
- 52:16Speaker 6: the outlet to do it. And if you have that,
- 52:18Speaker 6: you should make money on every side of the business.
- 52:21Speaker 1: Now, in talking to the fans privately, you know, that
- 52:24Speaker 1: type of thing. has it ever come where there is
- 52:29Speaker 1: a scary moment or where someone does connect with a
- 52:33Speaker 1: fan or maybe does want to meet them in person or,
- 52:36Speaker 1: or does fall in love with a fan or like,
- 52:38Speaker 1: has there any ever been any, or it gets to
- 52:40Speaker 1: a scary like stalker type of place? Yeah. Yeah.
- 52:44Speaker 4: I mean, there's been girls that when they're talking to
- 52:45Speaker 4: their fans have dealt with some interesting situations and I
- 52:49Speaker 4: think there's more good than bad, but of course I
- 52:51Speaker 4: think once you're, a big influencer and you have a
- 52:54Speaker 4: lot of fans, some people get stalkers and obsess with them,
- 52:58Speaker 4: even before OnlyFans. Any girl that has millions of followers
- 53:01Speaker 4: probably has stalkers. I've had some of my friends tell
- 53:04Speaker 4: me that they've had men standing outside.
- 53:06Speaker 5: Of their window.
- 53:07Speaker 6: But that's anyone who's famous. It's not attributed because of OnlyFans.
- 53:12Speaker 6: It's a fame thing. If you're famous, that's going to happen.
- 53:15Speaker 6: I'm sure you have stalkers. I'm sure there's people.
- 53:19Speaker 6: Should we get you one?
- 53:21Speaker 1: I have some weird haters, but I think they're too
- 53:24Speaker 1: lazy to leave their house. That's the same thing. But,
- 53:28Speaker 1: you know, nothing to whatever. But yeah, you're right. I mean,
- 53:32Speaker 1: that's just the thing. It's like, sadly, you can't find anybody.
- 53:35Speaker 1: And so it's just being hyper-vigilant around your surroundings when
- 53:39Speaker 1: you're out and all that. But with doing it, does
- 53:46Speaker 1: it ever get to a place where someone is like, wow,
- 53:50Speaker 1: if I do this, maybe I do still want to
- 53:53Speaker 1: be an actor. And this could affect my acting.
- 53:57Speaker 6: Those days are over, I think. I don't know what
- 53:58Speaker 6: you think. But I think those days are completely gone.
- 54:01Speaker 2: What about when I sometimes think, oh, you know, this person's.
- 54:04Speaker 1: Making $ 2 million a month. Does it then par off?
- 54:11Speaker 1: Because it's like, okay, I got to see my high
- 54:15Speaker 1: school crush that was this movie star and I followed
- 54:18Speaker 1: her for like a couple of months, but I am
- 54:20Speaker 1: a horny dude and I only have so much money.
- 54:23Speaker 2: So now I'm going to go to another person.
- 54:25Speaker 4: The problem is, is that the space is still new
- 54:29Speaker 4: and we were the first agency in this space. And
- 54:32Speaker 4: so there's no one that's been around for 10 years
- 54:34Speaker 4: or 10 years, five years in this space. It's still new,
- 54:36Speaker 4: but we've been around five years, but people are only
- 54:39Speaker 4: just now coming into this industry. So the data and understanding,
- 54:43Speaker 4: like basically, what an infrastructure should look like behind a
- 54:48Speaker 4: creator to be successful on these paywall platforms. It's still new.
- 54:51Speaker 4: So a lot of these celebrities that are launching, they
- 54:53Speaker 4: don't know who to go with. And there's random pop
- 54:55Speaker 4: up agencies that are like, we can do it. We
- 54:57Speaker 4: can do it. So it's kind of like the wild,
- 55:00Speaker 4: wild west in this industry because it's been taboo. So
- 55:03Speaker 4: it's not much.
- 55:04Speaker 1: Now you're taking like, you know, people that already have
- 55:07Speaker 1: a following that you can really like get.
- 55:09Speaker 2: But what if there is that person at home?
- 55:12Speaker 1: That's like pretty cute and attractive and down to like
- 55:15Speaker 1: just see, hey, can I do something with this? And
- 55:18Speaker 1: they don't have a big following. And like how would
- 55:21Speaker 1: they start a following where it's worth it? Because it
- 55:24Speaker 1: also takes a lot of time. I don't think people
- 55:26Speaker 1: realize how much time it takes to get in the outfit,
- 55:28Speaker 1: take the photos, make them look good, post it, write
- 55:32Speaker 1: the captions, whatever it is, whether you're on Instagram or
- 55:35Speaker 1: OnlyFans or whatever. And so what is your advice to them?
- 55:39Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting, too, is I've seen a lot of
- 55:41Speaker 4: like moms that are like secretly on OnlyFans and their
- 55:45Speaker 4: whole community doesn't know in their neighborhood and they're taking
- 55:47Speaker 4: their kids to school, but they're secretly on OnlyFans because
- 55:50Speaker 4: they don't promote it on their socials.
- 55:52Speaker 1: Right.
- 55:52Speaker 4: So there's ways that you can do it like fully undercover,
- 55:54Speaker 4: not put your real name. And what's cool about OnlyFans
- 55:57Speaker 4: is there's no like search discovery. They do that so
- 56:00Speaker 4: that everyone has privacy. It's like you basically send a
- 56:02Speaker 4: link just to yourself. But to do that, if you
- 56:05Speaker 4: wanted to start out, you could go to girls OnlyFans
- 56:08Speaker 4: and message them and be like, hey, I'll pay you
- 56:10Speaker 4: to shout me out. And so you pay them to
- 56:13Speaker 4: post about you and you can get traffic like that
- 56:15Speaker 4: without ever publicly showing anyone you have one. And so
- 56:19Speaker 4: there's a huge market on OnlyFans that are secretly doing
- 56:22Speaker 4: it because they are scared that people would judge them.
- 56:26Speaker 4: But yeah, it just depends. I always say that like
- 56:28Speaker 4: any creator that wants to do it, I never push
- 56:30Speaker 4: a creator or talent to do it.
- 56:32Speaker 1: I'm like.
- 56:33Speaker 4: It's your decision because you're going to have to live
- 56:35Speaker 4: with the decision. If that's something you actually– I never
- 56:39Speaker 4: want to sign anyone that's like, I don't know, I'm
- 56:41Speaker 4: worried about this, this, or this. I'm like, well, then
- 56:43Speaker 4: don't do it. Until you feel confident and.
- 56:45Speaker 1: Good about it. And what do they say? I'm worried
- 56:46Speaker 1: about what? Like, will I ever marry a nice doctor?
- 56:48Speaker 4: Yeah, or like my parents would think. Or like, what
- 56:51Speaker 4: if I want to have kids and now there's these
- 56:53Speaker 4: photos out on the internet? It's like, well, then you
- 56:55Speaker 4: shouldn't do that content. You should only do what you're
- 56:57Speaker 4: comfortable living with being on the internet because it is
- 57:00Speaker 4: the internet.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Right.
- 57:01Speaker 4: You know?
- 57:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 57:02Speaker 1: Yeah. And so what other, like, is it interesting to
- 57:09Speaker 1: see when someone is like, I had, you know, Drea
- 57:13Speaker 1: DiMatteo from Sopranos, and she started joining, she joined like
- 57:18Speaker 1: two years ago at 51. And she's, you know, hot
- 57:21Speaker 1: and sexy. And what a great following she has of
- 57:24Speaker 1: the kind of hot, her character was so appealing to
- 57:28Speaker 1: such a broad audience. audience, but of men. So it's like,
- 57:32Speaker 1: oh my God, I can see, you know, my favorite
- 57:35Speaker 1: girl from Sopranos and do all the things. And she said,
- 57:38Speaker 1: you know, like it paid her mortgage within like hours
- 57:42Speaker 1: of being on it or whatever it was. And so
- 57:45Speaker 1: do you see that an influx of like older actresses
- 57:48Speaker 1: coming on? Yes.
- 57:50Speaker 4: I heard of another new actress that's about to come on.
- 57:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 57:53Speaker 4: I do see it's an influx of that. I personally
- 57:55Speaker 4: think it's because when you're, When you have a following
- 57:59Speaker 4: on the Internet, you can't actually monetize it well if
- 58:01Speaker 4: you're a girl that has a male following unless you're
- 58:04Speaker 4: maybe doing TV or film. But like you're not going
- 58:05Speaker 4: to get brand deals. It's really hard. What are you
- 58:08Speaker 4: going to promote a male product like because that's the
- 58:12Speaker 4: only thing that your fans will buy. So then most
- 58:13Speaker 4: businesses don't really want to work with you. So they
- 58:15Speaker 4: don't know how to monetize. But they have this huge
- 58:17Speaker 4: following and a ton of engagement. So that you're the
- 58:19Speaker 4: perfect person to start an OnlyFans.
- 58:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:22Speaker 4: And so it makes sense why they're doing it. But
- 58:23Speaker 4: I do see a lot of these celebrities launching and
- 58:26Speaker 4: they're launching with bad teams. And then they have a
- 58:28Speaker 4: spike and then they go like this.
- 58:29Speaker 6: And then we get them. Okay.
- 58:30Speaker 1: So now let me ask you about this. What about
- 58:33Speaker 1: all the stuff we hear about, you know, that was
- 58:35Speaker 1: going on for the last 15 years? It might still
- 58:38Speaker 1: be going on where the girls go on. They're yachting girls.
- 58:42Speaker 1: They're going on the Dubai trip. They're being invited.
- 58:47Speaker 4: That's totally different.
- 58:49Speaker 6: That's called prostitution.
- 58:51Speaker 1: I know that's not what you guys do.
- 58:54Speaker 6: This is tech entrepreneurship.
- 58:57Speaker 1: Right, but I'm just saying, we're just talking shit here.
- 59:00Speaker 1: What is your thought? Is there ever a safe... She
- 59:04Speaker 1: said thought.
- 59:05Speaker 6: What's her thought?
- 59:06Speaker 1: Is there ever a safe way to be one of
- 59:10Speaker 1: those girls that goes on the trip, gets the money,
- 59:13Speaker 1: maybe gets the air may bag, and comes back without
- 59:17Speaker 1: a humiliating, life-changing story?
- 59:19Speaker 4: I don't really know that world that well, but I
- 59:21Speaker 4: did grow up in LA, and I'm around a bunch
- 59:24Speaker 4: of wealthy, successful men that have told me that they've
- 59:27Speaker 4: seen very famous- influencers and creators on something called The List.
- 59:32Speaker 4: And The List has every, there's also very big celebrities
- 59:35Speaker 4: on it. And The List has a price for how
- 59:37Speaker 4: much you can pay to spend the night with this person.
- 59:39Speaker 4: And there's some people that I've heard that are on
- 59:42Speaker 4: it that I'm like, what? I've never seen The List.
- 59:45Speaker 4: But I've had wealthy, successful men.
- 59:47Speaker 1: And it's like, I've heard that too. It's like legit
- 59:51Speaker 1: movie stars.
- 59:53Speaker 4: Yes, there's a lot of movie stars on it. There's
- 59:55Speaker 4: some big top models that you would never, ever think So.
- 59:59Speaker 6: This is like personal appearance to the next level. This is,
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: that's like, that's prostitution, personal appearance.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: It's the highest, it's the high, high, high expensive. Yes.
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: Yes. So there's like, and supposedly like, supposedly you have
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: to like, um, you have to be a very successful
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: vetted man to like get the list.
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: This is what I know that you're like, just like
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: you're going to show someone a house. It's like, I
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: need to know that you have 10 million in the
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: bank before I even, take you to this house. So
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you'd have to be vetted to know
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: that you can pay this, that you're safe, that.
- 1:00:30Speaker 6: You're... Pre-approval letter.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: Yeah, you need approval.
- 1:00:32Speaker 6: You're financed up to 10 million in Dubai voting with
- 1:00:36Speaker 6: this person.
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: I think that was the most shocking thing for me
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: about being in LA and being in this industry is
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: hearing that type of stuff. That there's powerful women that
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: have done those types of things. And I think that
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: as much as people want to shit on OnlyFans, and
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: trust me, most of the population does, it has brought
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: in the power back to the females to be like,
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: don't touch me. You're not going to see me in person.
- 1:00:59Speaker 4: You can look at my photos that other girls are
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: posting for free, but you better pay me for it.
- 1:01:03Speaker 6: Like it's kind of, I think the.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: Difference is when I was talking about my fascination with,
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: you know, porn stars who liked doing porn, you remember
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: like back in the day they would go to the,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: there'd be conventions and they'd sign things and they had
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: products and The Jenna Jamesons. And then there was also
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: this book that I was fascinated with, which was You'll
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: Never Make Love in This Town Again, which was the
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: inspiration for my book, which is You'll Never Blue Ball
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: in This Town Again. But all the people I dated
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: didn't find it. But it was this really juicy book
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: that was basically.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: About high class hookers in L.A.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: In the 90s. that were either product of, you know,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Heidi Fleiss, who was like the biggest, you know, and
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: then the person that she kind of basically stole the
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: black book from was this like other older lady. And,
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: and the stories were, were like juicy, but they were tragic.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: Like they were not, there was not a happy.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: Ending to any of those stories.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: And it, and it's really kind of, nice and refreshing
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: to know that as a pretty girl, you can, and
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: not necessarily being a prostitute or anything, but you could
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: use your looks. That is your gift. You, that is
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: one of your gifts that you are attractive, that you
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: are desirable and that you can use it and be
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: safe and, you know, write your own story and do
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: it for as long as you want or, Do that
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: thing of, you know, it used to be that you
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: had to be, oh, I'm just stripping till I get
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: my medical degree. Like all that kind of stuff that
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: always existed, you know, now it's here. It's helped the
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: industry a lot. And it's much better and safer.
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: And I think that when I was talking, because when
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: we first started, there was not one mainstream person on OnlyFans.
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: So I used to talk to the founder a lot
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: of OnlyFans. And I think that was the saddest thing
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: that I saw him go through is how many people
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: just ripped him apart and this company apart when they've
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: actually brought in so much safety to so many females
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: and changed so many lives and helped so many people
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: get out of debt by their family like the amount
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: of money that has been given to so many good
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: people on the internet like they're actually good creators a
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: lot of them care it's just been it's been really
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: cool to see and so that was I know like
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: one of the biggest reasons he was like it's a
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: lot to handle like the press constantly trying to pick
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: him apart and You know, it's a it's a sexualized industry.
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: So it's really easy to make you look bad in
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: this industry.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: Very easy.
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: And so I think there's a lot of people that
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: hate watching these beautiful women make money with their looks.
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: They hate it. They want to rip them apart. And
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: so it's not an easy industry to be in.
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: Do you have people that really kind of specialize in
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: having the feet?
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: Like what do you mean?
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: Like how people say, oh, people would pay this much
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: just for the feet.
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many niches on the platform. It's wild.
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really see them because I don't
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: have any accounts.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: What about just what I call just an armpit vagina?
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: If I just do a long series of just like, hey.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: That could work.
- 1:04:16Speaker 6: Look how smooth.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: And fabulous it is.
- 1:04:19Speaker 6: This is... She's more in the one percenter business of
- 1:04:23Speaker 6: the OnlyFans game. I would bring in new niches. You could.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: I could either hang out with your wife and be
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: funny all weekend for a price if you're rich enough.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: Or I could just take photos of this.
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: Should we do it? Should we do just for the
- 1:04:35Speaker 6: audience and the fans? Should you have a test OnlyFans page?
- 1:04:39Speaker 6: Doesn't have to be porn. Doesn't have to be risque.
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: Let's just see what can be sold.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: It might be a fun social experiment. I'm not like
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: afraid of anything like that.
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: I think that you would have women. Like Tana, she
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: has a lot of women that are talking to her
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: all day. And I feel like you're like a powerful
- 1:04:58Speaker 4: female and girls would maybe just pay to just talk
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: to you and ask you for advice.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:05:02Speaker 6: Because you have to reverse engineer what you're selling. You
- 1:05:05Speaker 6: can use it as an outlet to answer questions, to
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: get a shout out, to get sent a video. It
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: has cameo elements to it too. So it's like you
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: want to buy this video of me saying this. Here
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: it is. Now I can show everybody. Now I can
- 1:05:20Speaker 6: do this. So it's taking this world and figuring out
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: how do you create those businesses to sell to on
- 1:05:29Speaker 6: a huge platform.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: And what about have you ever found it difficult for.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: couples like the girl starts to really do it and
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: at first the guy is okay with it and then
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: she's you know heartbroken because he's not which is like
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: fuck you dude like for sure you can't yeah if
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: you can't enjoy the benefits of all of this but
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: have you ever had to like counsel a friend slash
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: client in that.
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: Yes i remember i had a girl come sit with
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: me one time she made like 150k a month and
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: she sat me down and said her new relationship doesn't
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: want her to have an only fans So she's going
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: to delete it. And then I remember being like, okay, yeah,
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: if you want to. I was like, okay, just make
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: sure you know that you're going to be with this person.
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: And she's like, no, I am. And then she deleted it.
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: And then fast forward one year, he cheated on her.
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: And then she came to my office and said that
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: was the worst mistake I made.
- 1:06:22Speaker 6: She's making $ 300, 000 now.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: Did she come back? Did she come back?
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: She did, yeah.
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: We started her from scratch. That was really hard.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: You know, that's the thing. It's like sometimes when people think,
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: with any kind of guy, I remember my friend being like,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: You know, even girls, they think like, oh, I'll go
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: for the guys. He's not the sexiest. He's not the hottest.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: But I'm so much cuter than he. Like, he'll be
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: such a safe bet. He'll worship me forever. I'm like,
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: then that guy is like, I can't believe I got
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: this fabulous woman. I must really be the shit. And
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: then they go and cheat. So there's go for the best.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Go for the guy you're attracted to, the guy that
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: has money, the guy that's worthy of you. Don't ever
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: go below your standard and think that that's going to
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: make you a more loyal partner because it's not.
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: I love that. It was like they're saying is like.
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: If you settle for less than you deserve, you'll get
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: exactly what you settled for.
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: Very true.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: Yeah, very true.
- 1:07:15Speaker 6: Very true.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: Well, I loved talking to you guys and tell everybody
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: where they can follow you and find you. And if
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- 1:07:25Speaker 1: where they should contact.
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: Yeah, we do more than only fans. We do brand deals, Snapchat, monetization, podcasting.
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