Latest / The Mental Healness Podcast / GRIEVING LALA: A Diagnosed Narcissist’s Unfiltered Look at Pet Loss & Vulnerability
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- 0:00Yeah, I lost my man's best friend on Friday.
- 0:03We had to compassionately put my my dog Lala down because she got
- 0:09sick, She couldn't walk anymore. She's having seizures, just
- 0:12heart failure. And she inspired today's video
- 0:16about narcissist and dealing with grief.
- 0:19There's no script today, y'all. This is just your good old Lee
- 0:21Hammock, the diagnosed narcissist giving you an inside
- 0:24look at real life and whatnot, right?
- 0:26So my dog, Lala, we had her for about 13 years, almost exactly
- 0:3113 years. Like me and my wife moved in
- 0:33together our first time in December of 20 December of 2012.
- 0:37We got Lala February of 2013. So every pretty much every time
- 0:41since we've been living together, we always had her,
- 0:44right? We always had her, she's always
- 0:47been around. She's always kind of been in the
- 0:48background of our lives. Like we got her.
- 0:50Well, my, my oldest son, it's kind of crazy.
- 0:53We got her when he was literally, he was born in 2008.
- 0:56So he was about 3 years old, 3 1/2 years old when we got her.
- 1:00So he's 17 now. He's about to graduate from high
- 1:03school. So she's always been around like
- 1:06forever. And when she started getting
- 1:10sick and stuff like that, she got diagnosed with a stage 4
- 1:12heart murmur and whatnot. And you know, was I can't even
- 1:16think of Cushing's disease and whatnot as well.
- 1:18So it's really tough to hear that right in my mind, the way I
- 1:21process things, like I put it to the back burner of my brain,
- 1:25right? That literally went to the back
- 1:27burner of my brain. I like so many stuff going on.
- 1:29She's going to live. Like it was kind of, I was kind
- 1:31of in denial for a long time. And then she just took a sudden
- 1:34turn for the worst. And people were just like, you
- 1:36know, online with the online and people and stuff like that.
- 1:39It's like it's the best decision to make to, you know, let her go
- 1:42out peacefully as opposed to suffering and whatnot.
- 1:45It was just very, very, very tough to deal with And just
- 1:48seeing I, I just don't like dealing with grief, man.
- 1:51I can't, I know this is not just narcissist.
- 1:53Most people don't like dealing with grief, but it's just like I
- 1:56process it very, very uniquely. And like I'm watching my kids,
- 2:00you know, Boo Hoo cry all of them.
- 2:01Like she's been around all my kids, my 7th year old, my 9 year
- 2:04old and my 5 year old. They all, especially my, my
- 2:07younger kids, they that's their whole life, you know, and
- 2:10watching them Boo Hoo cry and stuff like that.
- 2:12It's just so it's so uncomfortable to me.
- 2:16Like it's so uncomfortable and I just feel like, Oh my God, like
- 2:19I don't like this pain, you know, I don't like this pain.
- 2:24I just, it really does. Like even in when I've had
- 2:27friends who's lost their parents, my family members who
- 2:30lost their parents or their own children, that pain that they're
- 2:34going through, I don't want any parts of it.
- 2:35A lot of people ask me like, Lee, do you ever want to be
- 2:38normal? You ever want to just have a
- 2:39bunch of empathy and feel and have all this compassion and
- 2:41stuff like that? I just be like, look, not really
- 2:44'cause that pain, man, that pain is something that I, I hate
- 2:48experiencing. I hate watching my kids suffer.
- 2:50And you, you have to let them process through it.
- 2:53Watch, watch my wife cry, 'cause my wife is the one who picked
- 2:55her out, right? My wife literally picked her out
- 2:58of a litter of a bunch of puppies.
- 2:59And like, that's always been a little floppy eared Beagle, Jack
- 3:02Russell Terry mix, right? That's always been, she's always
- 3:04been literally part of our family for so long.
- 3:06It's kind of, it's very, very difficult to imagine life
- 3:09without her, you know, And I'm still grieving now because,
- 3:13like, the spot where she's slept at, you know, her, her, her bed.
- 3:17And I haven't touched her bowl, her dog bowl, anything like
- 3:19that, Right. So it's really very difficult to
- 3:22process it and just have matching life without her.
- 3:26And a lot of people ask me like, do narcissists care about pets?
- 3:28Can a narcissist love a pet, love an animal?
- 3:30Yeah, absolutely. The, The the problem.
- 3:34And it's not funny yet. But the problem is sometimes the
- 3:36narcissist that you might be dealing with only cares about
- 3:39the pets, right? They only care about the pet.
- 3:42Like they'll come home from a long day at work, a long day out
- 3:44in a long day out here causing chaos in the world and run right
- 3:49past you and show the show the dog some love.
- 3:53You know, feed the goldfish. Hey fishy, hey goldfishy pet the
- 3:57pet, the ferret. Talk to the parrot.
- 4:00They'll go, they'll go vent to the parrot that y'all got as
- 4:03opposed to talking to you. There's so many different things
- 4:06that go on in this situation that end up happening, which is
- 4:08why it's in like, it's very difficult to deal with.
- 4:11It's very difficult to process as someone diagnosed an MPD,
- 4:14someone has been battling this personality disorder forever.
- 4:16That's why it's very difficult, man.
- 4:19It sucks. Like if you're, and this is not
- 4:22just speaking for me, right? If you are dealing with a
- 4:25narcissist that is dealing with grief, a lot of times what ends
- 4:29up happening is you become the target of that grief, right?
- 4:32You become the target. They'll blame you, they'll lash
- 4:34out at you. You'll get some narcissistic
- 4:36rage episodes. There'll be a lot of different
- 4:39things that will be happening, going on and transpiring.
- 4:41That is so difficult to deal with, right?
- 4:44So tough, such a hard thing. And because narcissists,
- 4:48including myself, right, we don't know how to process our
- 4:50emotions in a healthy way. A lot of people tend to think
- 4:52that narcissists have no emotion, that we can't feel.
- 4:54We can't love. We can't, can't, can't, right?
- 4:57But it's just not true. We can feel, we can love, we can
- 5:00care. We just don't know how to
- 5:02process it and do it in a healthy way.
- 5:04That's the biggest struggle right there.
- 5:06It's processing it and dealing with it in any type of healthy
- 5:09dynamic, like, and that's why you get the anger.
- 5:12That's why you get the rage. That's why you get the victory
- 5:14out. It comes from a narcissist when
- 5:15they're grieving because they don't know what to do with it.
- 5:19And this is me and me. This is me in no way, shape or
- 5:22form making an excuse for a toxic narcissistic person.
- 5:24I know that. Yeah.
- 5:25Yeah, y'all know, even though I'm a diagnosed narcissist, we
- 5:27don't do that here. Shout out to Chadwick Boseman,
- 5:33we don't do that here. Don't bow to me.
- 5:35You know me. Rest in peace.
- 5:37But that's what it really is a tough thing to deal with man.
- 5:41Cuz like you have a narcissist in your life, like especially if
- 5:45they're dealing with a pet or a parent or whoever it is, they
- 5:48don't know how to deal with grief.
- 5:51They don't know how to process things like that.
- 5:53They will take it out on you. So when a narcissist is
- 5:56grieving, just be careful, be on the lookout.
- 5:58Like yesterday my son had a basketball game.
- 6:00This is like real life. My son had a basketball
- 6:02tournament. He got hurt and I just felt and
- 6:05my dog had like my dog passed away Friday and we he had my, my
- 6:11son had a basketball tournament in High Point on Saturday.
- 6:16So I'm sitting there, I'm like still processing emotions, still
- 6:19doing, everything's still going on in my mind and I'm like, man,
- 6:22what in the hell? How do we you know, he got hurt
- 6:24and I just, I was just disconnected, man.
- 6:26I was just out there. Of course I shook myself out of
- 6:28it and showed him love and make sure I took care of him and
- 6:31whatnot. But like initially I was just
- 6:32like logged out. It's embarrassing to say that I
- 6:36was literally logged out emotionally at that point.
- 6:38I was like, I got nothing else to give.
- 6:40My son is hurt dog in the past, like, you know, I put my dog
- 6:43down just like it's such such a tough dynamic to deal with
- 6:46overall in the process. And that's why I say, I think
- 6:48it's so important to recognize that if you're dealing with a
- 6:50narcissist and they're grieving, sometimes it's best for you.
- 6:54Of course, you want to acknowledge them.
- 6:56You don't want to just disappear because they'll hold that
- 6:58against you as well, right? You can't win for losing when
- 7:01you're dealing with a narcissist, right?
- 7:02You can because they'll hold it against you if you, if you are
- 7:04there for a narcissist when they have some, when they're dealing
- 7:07with grief, they can you, they, they'll still be angry and
- 7:10vitriolic towards you, hurtful towards you.
- 7:13If you decide to leave them be, they'll be hurtful and angry and
- 7:17this damn near no winning. So it's kind of like, what do
- 7:21you feel is the best in this situation for you?
- 7:23Because that's what you have to choose sometimes right there,
- 7:25right? That's what you have to choose.
- 7:27That's what you have to pick. That's going to be the choice
- 7:29that you have to make in order to protect yourself, in order to
- 7:31stay as healthy as possible and safe as possible.
- 7:34Because in these situations, you're damned if you do and
- 7:38you're damned if you don't. So I tell people what I say,
- 7:44choose the damned that you can live with, right?
- 7:47Because if you're going to be like, some people will just
- 7:49like, hey, they're grieving. They didn't show me no, when I
- 7:52was grieving. They didn't care about me.
- 7:53So hey, some people can't live with that.
- 7:55Some people just like, even though I know they're going to
- 7:57get mad, I have to show them something.
- 7:59I have to give them something. This is not who, this is who I
- 8:01am as a human, this is who I am as a person.
- 8:04So I understand that point of view as well, right?
- 8:06So it's like being able to protect yourself, being able to
- 8:09guard yourself, being able to see what you can live with.
- 8:12Because when you're dealing with a narcissistic person, that's
- 8:14what you're going, this is literally what you're going to
- 8:16be up against. You know, you're literally going
- 8:18to be up against an abusive manipulator that is in need that
- 8:23needs you for something. You know what I'm saying?
- 8:25And this is a tough thing to deal with.
- 8:27But abusive, lying, cheating, ass beating narcissist that will
- 8:32not that probably will not be there for you unless there's
- 8:34some strains attached. They expect you to be there for
- 8:37them. You know, they expect you to be
- 8:39there for them face to face in person, here, there everywhere.
- 8:43That's what they expect. Is that what they're going to
- 8:46get? I don't know, like it's up to
- 8:47you. Because me, I, I said me and my
- 8:50wife were there the whole time when they everything was going
- 8:52on with my dog. We were there.
- 8:53We had my my kids didn't come of course, thank goodness.
- 8:56But me, my wife were there. I held my wifes hand.
- 8:59We cried together. She cried, I cried.
- 9:01We crewed together right? And I don't even like crying
- 9:05man. I hate, I don't think I
- 9:06understand. I hate crying.
- 9:08But as someone who's trying to get into the acting world, I
- 9:11need to grow. I need to know how to cry and
- 9:12experience emotion. So that's like sometimes these
- 9:14moments or this kind of moment of grief for me personally is a
- 9:18self discovery journey. It's like telling myself it's OK
- 9:22to cry, telling myself it's OK to be vulnerable.
- 9:24Like what is my wife going to do?
- 9:26She going to use it against me that I cried and cried when we
- 9:29had to put our dog down that had been that had been with us for
- 9:3313 years. What is I'm saying we're going
- 9:35to cry about right there in this situation?
- 9:36How are we, how are we going to cry?
- 9:37What are you going to say? I watched my cousin cry back in
- 9:41the day before I was on this personal development journey, I
- 9:45would have refused to cry because I thought it looked
- 9:46weak. I thought it was weakness.
- 9:48Even in those moments when I was crying, even when I thought
- 9:50before we went to before we went to the place where we went to
- 9:54healing. Shout out to Healing Paul's in
- 9:57Hillsborough, NC, because they were.
- 9:59That's amazing people. Like we have to go through
- 10:01something and stuff like that. There's so much kindness and
- 10:03empathy in that place. Healing Paws or we, that's the
- 10:06place we're going to take our cat to for just get his check up
- 10:08and stuff. But like Healing Paws in
- 10:10Hillsboro, North Carolina over by the Walmart in Goodwill.
- 10:12Amazing place, amazing stuff. I don't even know if y'all live
- 10:15in North Carolina, but Healing Paws over there by Home Depot
- 10:18and stuff like that in in Hillsboro, amazing, amazing
- 10:21stuff. They were so kind of empathetic
- 10:23and they would feel like they were going to cry with us, you
- 10:25know, So I just in my mind, when I was crying, I just my thought
- 10:29process was like, OK, this is good because I'm, I'm a human.
- 10:32I can cry. But the narcissistic part of me
- 10:35was like, these people are going to are judging me for being the
- 10:37weakling for crying. The narcissistic part of my
- 10:40brain was like, these people are literally judging me for crying.
- 10:43So when we had to go through the process, put my dog down, like I
- 10:46felt like I wanted to cry, right?
- 10:47But it's part of me was holding it back because I'm like, these
- 10:51people are going to judge me for crying.
- 10:52These people are going to judge me for shedding tears with my
- 10:54dog. It's my sick dog, you know, But
- 10:57the, the part of me that I didn't, that has been working,
- 10:59the cognizant, the cognizant part of me was like, who cares?
- 11:04Who cares? You're a human being.
- 11:06These are human emotions. You're a human.
- 11:08So it allowed me to cry in that moment.
- 11:09It allowed me to experience grief in the moment.
- 11:10It allowed me to be vulnerable in that moment.
- 11:12And when I'm able to be vulnerable, it lets me know that
- 11:14I can love because you can't. I don't think you can love
- 11:17without being vulnerable. The reason I was crying because
- 11:19I loved because I was vulnerable in that moment because my, my
- 11:22dog who had been around, like literally my dog, my DA, my DAWG
- 11:28and my DOG who had been around for 13 years, like, it's crazy.
- 11:32My son, like when he was younger had a speech impediment.
- 11:34So he couldn't really say a whole bunch of words.
- 11:36So when we got her, there's so many different names we wanted
- 11:38to name her. We named her Lala because it was
- 11:41easy to say. That's literally where her name
- 11:43came from, like Lala. So this is like Mama Lala.
- 11:47It's easy to say for him, and that's why I like he cried.
- 11:50He cried too, 17 years old. And that's so good, man.
- 11:54I know it's like, I hate to see my kids in pain, but it's so
- 11:56good that they can cry and they can experience vulnerability,
- 12:00They experience grief. I was like, damn, they're not
- 12:03like me when I was young. And that made me so proud, man.
- 12:05It really did. It made me so proud that they're
- 12:09not like me. They're, they're a lot like me.
- 12:11They're funny, they're smart and stuff like that, you know, but
- 12:14the vulnerability, they're crying, I'm like, that's so good
- 12:17of them being able to to do that.
- 12:18I was so proud of them being able to do that.
- 12:21And they like this crime. I'm like, that's I'm so proud of
- 12:24my kids, man, So proud of my wife.
- 12:26It was just like those moments in time right there.
- 12:28You know, we miss my dog, my DAWG, my DOG, like it's, it's
- 12:34she was, she was truly loved, you know, she was truly loved,
- 12:37truly grateful for every moment we got to spend with her every
- 12:39night in just in the background and foreground of our lives for
- 12:42so long. I just want to do this video as
- 12:44a shout out and remembrance to my my DAWG La La I how even her
- 12:51passing help. She's been helped, you know, I
- 12:53mean just so love your love your animals.
- 12:56Y'all hug them, kiss them tightly.
- 12:58You never know They they they they there even sometimes we
- 13:01don't notice them every single day.
- 13:02They always there. Y'all.
- 13:03So they got anything into the video.
- 13:05I truly appreciate y'all. I'm truly thankful for you.
- 13:07Leave a a little dog emoji in the comment section as a
- 13:10remembrance of Lala and of all your pets and animals or cat or
- 13:13whatever that you've lost along the way or that you own right
- 13:16now that you have that's part of your family right now.
- 13:18Doesn't have to be remembrance. It could be like just a shout
- 13:20out. Anyways, y'all, I love y'all.
- 13:22I'm grateful for y'all. I'm still grieving now.
- 13:24That's why I don't see that crazy energy, the crazy energy
- 13:27just bouncing around normally in videos.
- 13:28I'm getting back to me, you know, So I appreciate y'all
- 13:32mental illness.net for all things Lee Hammock.
- 13:35I'm thankful for you. Peace.