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Make Black America Great... Again? Feat @Hashtag_Marien (part two) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, socialmous so shameless, so so so shameless,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying, social.
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  Speaker 2: Both So what's your house?
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  Speaker 3: You sing like, uh, what is it?
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  Speaker 2: Gyffindor hell no, there we go? I mag can't be
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  Speaker 2: a griffin door?
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  Speaker 3: Why not?
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  Speaker 2: That goes against everything that Harry and them stood for
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  Speaker 2: a child? You were Slytherin like me, it's fine. Your
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  Speaker 2: favorite color is green. Just lean into it is.
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  Speaker 3: The color of nature.
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  Speaker 2: Just just just lean into it.
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  Speaker 1: It's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I don't align with Sliverin at all. You know, it
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  Speaker 3: sounds that I love.
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  Speaker 2: I love talking about this stuff because I know that
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  Speaker 2: it sounds intense and it sounds like I just want to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, be this warlord that just does all these things. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: I disagree. I find that in my suggestions it's really
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  Speaker 2: just coming from a place of saying, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: there is so much wrong in this.
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  Speaker 3: World and looking at it with rose colored glasses is
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  Speaker 3: not going to help us.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: And the way that we fix these things is by
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  Speaker 2: being realistic about what has to happen to actually get
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  Speaker 2: them fixed.
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  Speaker 3: That's the way I look at it.
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  Speaker 5: But it's also looking at it like, let's be the
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  Speaker 5: best of the worst. Yeah, so instead of you know,
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  Speaker 5: the States has always been somewhat of a global leader,
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  Speaker 5: and Todaj's point, kind of the people that police the world, right,
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  Speaker 5: America has the ability to shape certain things in global conflicts,
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  Speaker 5: and we've often taken a position of being the absolute
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  Speaker 5: worst when we could, in fact be more diplomatic.
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  Speaker 2: What do you in what regard like let's even if
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  Speaker 2: we talk about what's Lolan in Iran or you know,
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  Speaker 2: talk about our interference with you know, let's say Iran, right, yes,
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  Speaker 2: And how do we get more diplomatic with people that
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  Speaker 2: we've been attempting to negotiate with for forty years who
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  Speaker 2: refuse to give us what we need? Oh, I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to disrupt you, who refuse to get this it's just
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  Speaker 2: so close, like I know, okay, but just talk into it.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, But you know, Iron refuses to give
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  Speaker 2: up conceit.
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  Speaker 3: It's to concede, but also to give up its capability
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  Speaker 3: for creating nukes.
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  Speaker 2: It also is the biggest sponsor of terrorist organizations, including
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  Speaker 2: Hezbola and Hamas the entire because the entire purpose of
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  Speaker 2: Hezbola is to fight against the United States and any
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  Speaker 2: type of Western culture.
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  Speaker 3: So why would I.
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  Speaker 2: Allow anyone that hates me the opportunity to build the
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  Speaker 2: biggest weapons it can The.
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  Speaker 5: Word allow is problem, right, the fact that the United
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  Speaker 5: States is capable, the fact that Israel has nukes, the
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  Speaker 5: fact that a lot of these other white nations have nukes.
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  Speaker 5: Are there any black and brown nations that are allowed
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  Speaker 5: quote unquote to have nukes?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I don't want them to have nukes.
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  Speaker 5: That's not my question. The question are there any.
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  Speaker 3: Black That's a good question I would have to look at.
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  Speaker 5: I've looked into and so, and then you label them
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  Speaker 5: as terrorists as terrorists?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Has Bola is a terrorist organization? For sure?
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  Speaker 5: Do you agree that the United States has carried on
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  Speaker 5: many terrorists acts and probably more so than Iran by
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  Speaker 5: the definition of what terrorism is, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think we've carried out acts of war. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that I would call them terrorism.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know what the definition of the terrorists?
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  Speaker 3: No, you can give me the formal definition, we'll look
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what do you think the difference is between
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  Speaker 4: terrorism and the active war? So?
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  Speaker 2: Terrorism is an intentional harming of a people based on
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  Speaker 2: an ideology KKK. You know, we have the ingrown, the
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  Speaker 2: homegrown terrorists, you know, get the proud boys shout out
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  Speaker 2: to them. So we have so we are a terror
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  Speaker 2: terroristic nation within ourselves. But we want to go and
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  Speaker 2: tell another terrorist that they can be a terrorist. But
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  Speaker 2: we never got rid of k. We have the proud
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  Speaker 2: boys working, wandering around here doing whatever the fuck they
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  Speaker 2: want to do. And that's okay. So it's okay when
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  Speaker 2: it's here, but if it's over there, it's not okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's not okay. I didn't want to take it there,
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  Speaker 2: but I was not okay though, because if you hear
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  Speaker 2: hold on really quickly, it's not okay, because we know
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  Speaker 2: that if we see the KKK.
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  Speaker 3: Lynching people, we stop them and we hold them accountable.
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  Speaker 2: In what American history we have Literally now you cannot
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  Speaker 2: lynch someone right now.
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  Speaker 3: It is not people loud. If it happens, they will
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  Speaker 3: come and get.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if it happens, they will say that it
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  Speaker 2: was a suicide. They will say that the black men
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  Speaker 2: that are hanging themselves from trees by themselves because it
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  Speaker 2: has happened. I hear saying in regards to that that
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  Speaker 2: was a specific case. I give me a moment, because
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  Speaker 2: I cannot remember the exact reason. I know that I
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  Speaker 2: figured out. I did the research on this. I just
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  Speaker 2: can't remember exactly this west. But it's not it was
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  Speaker 2: not a racial attack. It was it wasn't black people
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  Speaker 2: have you hang themselves on trees. It is very difficult
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  Speaker 2: to hang yourself, period, but to hang yourself specifically from
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  Speaker 2: a tree. You're waying that the second man was not
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  Speaker 2: white and was not black. You're aware that the second
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  Speaker 2: person that was found hung.
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  Speaker 3: Was actually white.
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  Speaker 2: Listen a lynching. Are you aware of that though, because
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  Speaker 2: I think that is important to note, because if we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna call it a KKK racially based attack, then we
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  Speaker 2: must assume that both victims were black, but the second
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  Speaker 2: person was not black. I didn't say that. I said
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  Speaker 2: that the KKK is a terroristic organization, And I said,
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  Speaker 2: you said that basically that we don't condone terrorism, and
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  Speaker 2: I mean lynchings and that those people will be like
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  Speaker 2: stop if prosecuted. However, common we know that systemically and
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  Speaker 2: historically that has not happened. Like in this country. There
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  Speaker 2: are people that have been lynched and they have those
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  Speaker 2: lynchers have never been prosecuted, They have never went to jail,
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  Speaker 2: they have never atoned four But the KKK still exists.
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  Speaker 2: Sundown town still exists in this country right now, Sundown
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  Speaker 2: in East New York right now. Sundowntowns are in Brownsville
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  Speaker 2: right now. So sundowntowns are in Chicago right now. Chicago
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  Speaker 2: had three hundred plus shootings in the last like four months.
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  Speaker 2: And again, America, America, before you're talking about a terroristic
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about when. When are when are these local governments,
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  Speaker 2: because let's if we want to talk about actually dealing
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  Speaker 2: with the United States, that is, you're aware that President
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  Speaker 2: Trump has deployed the National Guard to multiple cities and
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  Speaker 2: has has extremely draw driven down the the death rate
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  Speaker 2: in those cities. We see that for the first time
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  Speaker 2: in years, d C had over a two week span
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  Speaker 2: of no homicides at all thanks to the National Guard
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  Speaker 2: being deployed, and he offered to deploy the National Guard
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  Speaker 2: to Chicago. The Chicago mayor said absolutely not. And since
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  Speaker 2: he said absolutely not, over something like six hundred shootings
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  Speaker 2: have happened with dozens of deaths. So the question is,
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  Speaker 2: if we want to be America first, why do Democrats
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  Speaker 2: keep getting in the way of that? Why won't they
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  Speaker 2: allow them president? Because help?
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  Speaker 3: If we care?
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  Speaker 2: If we care, there's a humanism side of it. There's
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  Speaker 2: so many different sides because you and your correlation of
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  Speaker 2: sundown town's being like the hoods and like the hoods
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  Speaker 2: of America.
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  Speaker 3: Anywhere that you can't go safely after dark.
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  Speaker 2: But you can because I lived in Brownsville, I've lived
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  Speaker 2: in East New York. I'm still here, I'm alive, lived,
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  Speaker 2: I've lived in Bedsty et cetera, in Flatbush. But my
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  Speaker 2: point is, if we're talking about a place where you
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  Speaker 2: are more in danger after dark, we have to acknowledge
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  Speaker 2: that that should include the hood.
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  Speaker 3: And as a.
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  Speaker 2: Black and brown person, we are actually more in danger
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  Speaker 2: when we go to the hood than when we go
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  Speaker 2: to some you know, honky tonk town out in the US.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever America.
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  Speaker 4: The definition of definition of terrorism, he's he's pulled it up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. We could go on so many different.
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  Speaker 4: Tangents they are throwing back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: I like the terrorism, the systematic use of terror, especially
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  Speaker 5: as a means of coercion. So obviously we got a
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  Speaker 5: breakdown what terror means, because terrorism is the systematic use
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  Speaker 5: of terror, especially as a means of coercion. Right, So,
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  Speaker 5: terror violence or the threat of violence used as a
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  Speaker 5: weapon of intimidation or coercion, especially violent or destructive acts
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  Speaker 5: such as bombing, committed by groups in order to intimidate
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  Speaker 5: a population or government into granting their demands. By definition,
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  Speaker 5: the United.
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  Speaker 2: States is a terrorist regime.
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  Speaker 5: I mean recently Iran Venezuela.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, Okay, So while I hear what you're saying, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, like if we're using the
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  Speaker 2: technical term, then.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, I will give you that.
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  Speaker 2: What I would only submit to you that if we
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  Speaker 2: are going to be considered a terrorist organization, we have
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  Speaker 2: to acknowledge who we're being terroristic to, because every single
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  Speaker 2: name that you just mentioned.
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  Speaker 3: Is a horrible place.
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  Speaker 2: You can say, as the woman, would you take your daughter,
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  Speaker 2: take your daughter, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 3: Would you take your daughter to Afghan.
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  Speaker 2: Question? I will answer that question.
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  Speaker 3: Who we're talking about here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be very honest with you. I will
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  Speaker 2: bring my daughter wherever I want to go, wherever I
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  Speaker 2: want to go. I don't want to go to afghan I.
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  Speaker 3: Do not wonderful place.
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  Speaker 2: It's lovely, there's so nice. I can tell you all
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  Speaker 2: you can dress like this there. They wouldn't throw you
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  Speaker 2: off a building. They're not going to throw me off
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  Speaker 2: a building because I am a tourist. I'm not from there.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they want to get thrown in jail.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to stand for not wearing a job
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  Speaker 2: as a woman, and if I am a part I
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  Speaker 2: don't care if you're going to somebody else's country. The
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  Speaker 2: same way if I walk into somebody else's house, I
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  Speaker 2: will abide by the rules of that person's house. If
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  Speaker 2: I have to wear immigration at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to fly anywhere longer than maybe eight hours.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm never going over there period. If my child
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  Speaker 2: wants to go, it's not it's not even that it's convenient,
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  Speaker 2: it's just so here's the funny thing. Me and my
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  Speaker 2: husband was just having a conversation today about trauma.
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  Speaker 4: Had a point that he was trying to make sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, La, it's fine. I'm just sitting here.
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  Speaker 5: Listen a couple of quick points and get back at
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  Speaker 5: a couple of quick points. So one, you can't be
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  Speaker 5: like these are terrible countries and put that label because
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  Speaker 5: that is clearly subjective, right, any other any of those
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  Speaker 5: countries could be like United States, Trump is terrible, Maga
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  Speaker 5: is terrible. Let's go do whatever the fuck we want
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  Speaker 5: and justify it.
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  Speaker 3: Right, But that's what they do.
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  Speaker 5: So let me finish my point, my whole point in
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  Speaker 5: mentioning this and your use of the word terrorism, that
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  Speaker 5: you that word is used a lot to justify what
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  Speaker 5: we do. And if you use that word, that word
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  Speaker 5: can be used now by other countries to justify what
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  Speaker 5: they do against us. And it's so you're again my
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  Speaker 5: whole point is you're trying to act as if the
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  Speaker 5: United States is this moral high ground country, but we
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  Speaker 5: are actually practicing being the best of the worst, and
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  Speaker 5: as a moral person, as a person of God, that
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  Speaker 5: you are, I need you to understand the irony and
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  Speaker 5: what you're saying here, and that's why my point. So
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  Speaker 5: we can't throw around to you the word terrorists and
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  Speaker 5: terrorism as a way to dehumanize the other side and
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  Speaker 5: justify humanizing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm acknowledging truth. So what's going to frustrate me about
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  Speaker 2: this is you know, and I hear what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you, as I said.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's not like America is out here bombing
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand.
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  Speaker 3: Right. We're not bombing, you know.
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  Speaker 5: For Greenlay right the places.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we are not bombing Greenland, but we have
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  Speaker 2: threatened to use for reasons rorism Greenland. Nobody.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry to cut you up, but we literally just
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  Speaker 5: defined terrorism and the threat of it is service.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, why are.
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  Speaker 5: We threatened threatening Greenlay because you are?
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  Speaker 3: You aware of the circumstances I just saw.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't. But the idea of taking just because
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  Speaker 4: you can, we're talking it's crazy. That's actually like when
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  Speaker 4: we talk about grape right, when we're talking about what
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  Speaker 4: men can do to women, right, we're talking about understanding
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  Speaker 4: because yo, I can, I.
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  Speaker 2: Could do that I want. That's such a big difference
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  Speaker 2: in that entire conversation.
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  Speaker 3: There, there's a very big difference.
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  Speaker 4: To people whose mothers and families die in a when
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  Speaker 4: when we bomb them because we want them to follow
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  Speaker 4: what we want.
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  Speaker 2: Just because again it's not just it's not just us saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you should allow women to wear shorts and if you don't,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna bomb you. That we're not We're not talking
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  Speaker 2: about that everyone that you're but everyone that he mentioned, Syria, etcetera,
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  Speaker 2: has been a direct threat to America and has been
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  Speaker 2: known to attack America. So again, we might be considered
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  Speaker 2: terrorists to the people that intentionally make us their targets.
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  Speaker 2: So if I am hold on against you, if you're
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  Speaker 2: against me and I'm against you, or you're against me,
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  Speaker 2: you come, you show up with a gun?
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  Speaker 3: Should I not get a gun? Should I not put.
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  Speaker 2: If you draw your gun at me, should I not
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  Speaker 2: draw my gun back at you? The point I'm making
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  Speaker 2: here is that we can call it terrorism because it's
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  Speaker 2: it's technically within.
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  Speaker 3: The you know definition. Sure, but I would call it defense, I.
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  Speaker 2: Really would, because they hate us. I did you understand Hesbola?
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  Speaker 2: The three major points of Hebola is to spread Islam.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's reason number one. To spread Islam, to fight
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  Speaker 2: against the Western culture, and to eliminate Israel.
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  Speaker 3: That's the three major points. To eliminate Israel.
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  Speaker 2: So when you see Israel bombing against that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a bad guy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the bad guy.
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  Speaker 2: Guy. I'm totally okay, we're not going to do this
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  Speaker 2: right now. I don't want you to get yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: actually will not do it. How about this you can't
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  Speaker 2: say because you know them. But anyway, let's go back
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  Speaker 2: to the one question I want you to answer. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to take it really quick, really quick. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: no question, really just really quickly. I haven't asked any
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  Speaker 2: questions yet today, right, so my one.
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  Speaker 3: Question, go ahead. Would you guys feel better in a
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  Speaker 3: country that is not.
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  Speaker 2: Proactive, proactive about stopping our enemies in their tracks? Would
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  Speaker 2: it be better if they made it to our lands
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  Speaker 2: and we saw these these wars that are happening there,
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  Speaker 2: if they were happening.
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  Speaker 4: Here for me? For me? I think that's a layered question.
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  Speaker 4: I think because if you look at the instability in Iran,
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  Speaker 4: America had his hand in that. If you look at
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  Speaker 4: all of the things and the people that have this
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  Speaker 4: hate towards us, is because America's had that hand towards
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  Speaker 4: and it's largely because of economic reasons that America wants
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  Speaker 4: to build or own or like they're literally taking from
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  Speaker 4: other places and then just say, yo, oh, y'all want
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  Speaker 4: to hurt us. Yeah, nigga, you came over here, you
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  Speaker 4: build mad war things around us, you sanction us, You
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  Speaker 4: do what you can. You take. You went to Venezuela,
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  Speaker 4: You went to Venezuela. You took the president. Fine, right,
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  Speaker 4: you took the president. But then you just start siphoning.
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  Speaker 4: They oil the reserves, you just start siphoning from their
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  Speaker 4: economic capacity. It's just like, yo, why wouldn't they hate us?
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Love Trump for that, right, you're aware they were no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: they're parading in the streets. I went. I went to
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  Speaker 2: the parade, not parade, but the gathering, the protests. It
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  Speaker 2: was a one side was anti Trump and the other
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  Speaker 2: side was the side full of actual Venezuelans praising Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And I have that video on my page. You can
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  Speaker 2: go see it. The people of Venezuela were tired of
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  Speaker 2: a man who you know, y'all are screaming no kings.
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  Speaker 2: This dictator Maduro had been in power for thirty three years.
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  Speaker 2: You understand the Venezuelans here could not go home because
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  Speaker 2: of his political He is a political tyrant. He was
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  Speaker 2: literally killing people that protested against him. I met multiple
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  Speaker 2: people that had photos of the abuse that they sustained
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  Speaker 2: while being tortured by him because they protested against him. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: we have everyone protesting against Donald Trump because kings don't let.
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  Speaker 4: You protest against.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to go back now, not did he gone?
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  Speaker 2: And they were so happy that they're going to pick
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  Speaker 2: up and leave. You know, what they're saying is they
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  Speaker 2: need to make sure that Majuro's team is no longer
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  Speaker 2: there and then because when you take out a dictator,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: there's still a team of people that were making it
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: happen for him. But when are they leaving because their
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: refugees technically their refugees, they came here because their country
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: was to stay here. But that's the whole that's the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: whole premise of America, right. People don't just like Trump
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: said early, they don't just come here because America is
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the best place in the world. They come here because
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: they are escaping what they have and what is going
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: on in their own country. So with that, if that's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the situation, they should go back. So that means that
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: all of the Europeans they should go back to pick
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: it up. The only pap only people that should be
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: here are black people and Native Americans. Everybody, pack it up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: One of the comments said, Yo, if somebody came and
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: took our president, we'd be dancing in this streets.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know why, because you're a bunch of cry
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: babies who can't handle when someone is actually an elected
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: president that more than half of the country agrees with.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: So you go and cry about how he's a dictator.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, if you did that in any other country with
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: an actual dictator, you would not be alive. So people
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: that are saying that they are literal cry babies, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I do not. I won't say I won't don't respect you,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: but I think you need to be realistic about how
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: much of a little whiny cry baby you are. You
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: are in the best country in the world that allows
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you to complain about the president on the internet.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Try that in North Korea.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Crybabies describe the insurrection from January sixth.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: Come on, get on my head, let's talk about it physically,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: taking little cry baby.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: What you're saying into physical action instead of just talking.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: The January sixth thing is, actually, we don't need to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: say away need people to look into what Nancy Pelosi
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: admitted and so far as her involvement and her lack
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: of positioning Capitol police at the building in spite of
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: what Trump. You just you just blamed Nancy Pelosi for
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the insurrection, that Trump enough, that Trump and Giuliani fanned
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the flames. Are you aware that Bloomberg Bloomberg the radio station,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: not the radio station, because sorry, not Bloomberg, BBC? Are
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you aware the BBC now has to pay Donald Trump
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars because the way that they
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: edited his speech made it seem like he inflamed them,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: but he actually didn't. He said that he was headed
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: down here with the people and never showed up. He
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: literally said that word for word. But my love, my love,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: if you look at the original I mean, look, if
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you look at the actual speech that that comes from.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: He says one portion and then an hour later he
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: says a different portion, and BBC compiled them together. I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: not you can look this up right now. It is
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: an active case that Trump won. So when we talk
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: about whether or not he was the one that incited
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: an insurrection, it is very simply he did not do that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Did they all go. They all went because they went.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Because why did people go to Why are people jumping
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: in the middle of ICE rays and jumping in front
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of ICE agents because people are acting on their own.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: You can't say that because we have we have Kamala
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Harris saying fight against ice, and we have Elon Omar
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: saying fight against ice means that they told Renee Good
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to try and run someone over with her car, or
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: they told Alex Preddy to go down there with a
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: gun and stand in people's faces. What these politicians are
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: doing on stage as far as speaking passionately and saying
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you need to you need to be stamp, stand firm
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: and what you believe in versus what people end up doing.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna call it inciting a riot, then we
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: need to hold every single Democrat accountable that has ever
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: said fight against the man, fight against the system, fight
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: against ice.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: They're doing it every day.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You have to understand, you get a grass roots of
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the insurrection is the whole thing, this whole stop to steal.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I really won this election, and you guys they are
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: trying to take it away from me. You're literally stoking
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: your base and saying they went against me. They cheated
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: me out of this election, and we need to go
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and do something about it. The insurrection was treason this
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: full stop period. You know. Back to the question that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you, because I'm going to answer it. First,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Seeing the Confederate flag in the hands of an American
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a treasonist act in our state
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: capital is absolutely disgusting and despicable. So when we talk
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: about that whole America first that I have because I'm
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: really a history buff, that shit is nasty. The effect
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that the Confederate flag even hangs anywhere is disgusting. We
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: are a nation that celebrates losers as long as they're
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: racist and have enough money to be a loser, and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that shit is nasty. Donald Trump was a loser and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: he did not like being a loser, so that he
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: went and he tried to start a coup his head
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and then it failed. The only people that Donald Trump
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: has ever won against our women. So he is, on
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: top of that, just a big ass bully if you
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: want to take it there, But I'm gonna stop right there.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Where is your line? Where's your line for him? There
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: has to be a line.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, So.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: You made a lot of points I did, and for
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the sole purpose of us act of me actually answering
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: your where's the line question, I'm not gonna address all
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of you. I will simply say you should really look
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: into the not cases, but look into the instances of
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: voter fraud that have been revealed, and then ask yourself
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: if he was making this up.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna then people at home, You're welcome to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: look into it and post it in the comments, post
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the links in the comments, because it's real. That said,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: when it comes to my line on Donald Trumph, what
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I have found is that so many people forget that
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this man has always been a well known public figure.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: We've known about Trump for generations at this point, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it is only when he started to run for president
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that instantly, somehow so many people didn't like him.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Not true, That is absolutely true.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: He tried to run in the eighties.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people still like right, entire slander campaign coming.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it's not But that's not it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It wasn't until he decided to run for president that
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: wasn't it. It was the things that he said and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: he did, in the way that he went about it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That is what made people not like him, but that
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: also made some people like him. At the end of
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the day, we're talking about the highest office in the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: land in this country. We take it back to America first,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and an adulterer. We're talking about somebody that married not one,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: but two foreign people, immigrants themselves. He brought them from
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: another country, which is crazy. No, because he hated he
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: only likes a certain archetype, those Ellis Island types, because
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: his own grandfather was an immigrant and came into this
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: country illegally. So how dare you have this stance that
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you have. So let's talk about it. Because if it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: one thing I understand and I see both sides of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I research both sides, I am not again, I am
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: not all the way one way or all the way
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the other. I'm going to be honest about what it is.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: He is a liar, but he's alive, and I'm not biased.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I don't see an honesty coming.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I see I see an understanding of one portion of
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: this debate about Trump. Because what I would say is
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in regards to claiming, oh, you know, people don't like
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the way that he speaks, etcetera, etcetera. I don't care
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: about the way that he speaks. I care about the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: fact that he's an adulterer. I care about the fact
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that he's a felon. I know I do, because you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: don't because as a president of the United No no, no, no, no, stop,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: you don't like these are not my president. And this
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: is what we're talking about. We're talking about America. First,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like Clinton politics. You hate Bill Clinton.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: You heard about it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: You were like, I cannot hate kill him.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: He's a horrible person. I cannot hate.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Him because when he was president, I was seven.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I did it. He also was. I don't care adulterer
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: in the midst of his presidency. I don't know. Trump
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: has been with his wife for twenty years now.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: And he literally he's been with her for twenty years
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and was sleeping with a prostitute, and was lying about
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: sleeping with a prostitute, paid off a prostitute. We're talking
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: about somebody, as a mother of a girl, that's talking
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: about grabbing girls by the pussy. We're talking about somebody
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that feels like it's okay to walk into addressing room
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: naked women. You're saying, and I see where this conversation killing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: So what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead, you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: reclaim my time, Auntie.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I'm also going to.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Now you know, Maxine would not fuck She's a great
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: grandma at this point, not an auntie, and she would
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: not She needs to go to sleep. But I'm going
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to reclaim my time and just claim give you my
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: reasons very quickly. Why those things that you're bringing up
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: about Trump do not bother me? Okay, tell me one
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the grab them by the p right. What people don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: understand is the context of the conversation that he was
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: having in that moment. No, no, no, hear me because I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: guarantee you you you said you have a podcast talking
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: about sex. Guarantee you said worse things than what this
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: man said.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: What he actually said spoken about violating a women's agency
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: of right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: But here's what Trump actually said. Because he didn't actually
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: say you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Should go and do this thing you said.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He said what he said, And here's here's he didn't say,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I have no, he didn't say no he did.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: He didn't storm and dams.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: That's the whole premise of the lawsuit.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Hear me one. What Trump actually said was he was
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: speaking about the state.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Of women in this clout chasing gold digger demographic, yes, right,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And he was like, these girls are such hoes that
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you could grab them by the p if you wanted to.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: This is what he said. He didn't say go do that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: He was expressing that very very presidential.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: But he was the president at the time.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But he was running. But he but he was running
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and came out during his run because people wanted to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: slander him. They wanted you to see him in this,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: in this horrible light, but they that politician.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: But prior to that, we love this guy. He had.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Every black celebrity loved Trump. Oprah was one of his
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: best friends, of his best He did all the fresh
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: prince of bel air. You can't say everybody loved Trump.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I think that there was because there is this celebrity
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: idolization in America that is like he.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Plays a homie. He was the homie.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: First of all, Trump is from New York, So to
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: assume that he's so reepis he would have left New
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: York a long time ago.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: This is the one place you cannot avoid black people. Please.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Yes, people love Larry Bird because he's.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: A great was actually close like he was actually very
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: cool with Jesse Jackson.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That's a whole conversation until he started spewing, until he
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: turned in to Roger Stone's puppet. When he turned into
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Roger Stone's puppet, that's when everything went downhill. Because even
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the whole make America great again, that is not his thing.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: That is from Reagan, I e. From Roger Stone. We're
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: talking about that. It's bigger than Donald Trump. He is
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the frontman or the talking piece of people that are
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: worse than him. And at the end of the day,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: when we're talking about things that are presidential and we're
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: talking about people that are that are supposed to represent
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: our country, there is one some type of moral fiber
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that you should have, and there is a cold there
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: is some type of ethics like I like or I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: miss the America where a Republican and a Democrat can
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: sit on a couch and have a debate and it
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: be mutually respectful and we're not saying anything disparaging about
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: each other, anything about our families. I would think that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Started to run. But when Donald Trump started to run,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that's what the left did to him.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: The same thing that you're saying you don't like to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: see these people slammed it. This man in every possible way.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It was not truths.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: This is what frustrates me about it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: If you look into look into the actualities of even
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the women that supposedly came forth and said all this,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: all this.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: A lot of them were discredited. A lot of them
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: were deeply discredited.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: A lot of them were lying about even the place
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that they said that they met this man.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Also also, again I will remind you, not only has Donald.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Trump been a socialite, been a celebrity, He's been an
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: ultra rich person for decades, right decades. So the people
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that he is in the same space with the stuff
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that those people just they're regular everyday lives. The parties
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: think about the Diddy, White parties think about that. Okay,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: this is the real He wasn't though. This is what
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I'm saying here. I saw the pictures of Donald Trump
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: partying with diddyan Or at.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: The White Party.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Is different than being with Diddy at an event that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: was someone else's party.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: That's a different thing. Oh, the White Party, the freak offs.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump was not in no freak off. Okay.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: My point is very simply when you look at someone
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that had been in Hollywood and had again no political leanings.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: At the time, he was just a businessman who was
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: super rich, who had a bunch of girls around him.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Let me ask questions here.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Y'all been going off.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Y'all been going back and forth. Trom's neck is hurt
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: and he's holding his shit up with his arm. I'm
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: just trying to stay I'm trying to take in all
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the information that I'm getting because you got a history
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: buff here, and you as well. You guys are very knowledgeable.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I do think that people want to know. How can
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: you be pro black sure as a black woman and
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: be maga.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so I say like this. When I
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: say maga, you can put a silent B in there,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: because I'm saying make Black America great again. Okay, there
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: was a time, a few generations back, where we had
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: more black marriages that were successful. We had children being
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: raised in far more nuclear families where father and mother
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: were together. We had more church attendance. We had actually,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: per capita, more black businesses. Right, we owned our own
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: businesses far more. Now we're running off to work at
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: every white man's company that we can screaming about microaggressions
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: because someone doesn't like our hair. But before that, wasn't
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a problem because we hired within ourselves. We had black
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: neighborhoods that were thriving, that were surviving and focused inward.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: We had less black people on drugs, we had less
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: black women doing prostitution, we had less black men incarcerated,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: we had less you know, homelessness within the black community.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: A lot of those things.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, they deteriorated because of Democrat policies. No, yes, ma'am,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: looking at babe, who created public housing? Do you know
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: before that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Who created public No it's not before.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Before we get
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to public housing. Before we get to that, we have
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: to talk about the Great migration and a lot of
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: things that stopped what we're talking about, this nuclear black
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: family and all of us being together and we were
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: chilling and it was all kumbaya. We have to talk
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: about Jim Crow Laws. Jim Crow Laws is what forced
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: black people out of the South, which forced black people
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: away from this family and these communities that we built.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: That is the case. You have that mass flight, when
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: you have the great migration of black people that moved.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Left thegether to another place.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: We have together. Yes, yes, I'm sorry, yes, and she's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: just making stuff up with respect like you can't. Can't
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you can't just say things that are technically true but
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: not didn't finish. But again, it was a great migration
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that did not separate families, migration where families and full
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: communities moved together. I didn't get there yet. Yes, we
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: did move together, but we moved up north, and we
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: moved north to what to redlining, to ghettos, to more laws.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: We moved up north where black people it was very
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: difficult for us to actually get certain jobs. We moved
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: up north when we moved into communities that it was
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: hard for us to get the loans for us to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: start our businesses that we had doubt. We were doing
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: better in certain sectors. There were certain sectors that were
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: doing better than others. But you have to you have
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: to name what it is. If it wasn't for racism,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for racism, and it wasn't for Jim
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Crow laws in the South, most black people would have
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: been able to stay in those affluent communities. We were
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: not just escaping just to escape, we were escaping persecution
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in the terroristic state that is America. That's what happened.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And then when black people got too much power, when
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: we got too smart, when we were doing too much,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: what did they start doing. That's when you have the lynchings.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: That's when you have the bombings of entire black communities.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: That's when you have railroads, I mean not railroads, you
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: have highways being built over black communities. You have whole
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: black communities that literally people were forced out of their homes,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that they turned into lakes and national parks and all
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: of that. Black people have tried tried time and time
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and time again to lift ourselves up from these theoretical bootstraps,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and every time we do a little bit more than
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: white people will make it a little bit further. They
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: get upset, they bomb their own people, they destroy their
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: own communities. That's what happened. If America wasn't a racist,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: terroristic society and country, black people would have been perfectly
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: fine where we were doing the things that you are
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: saying that we did, and they did matter. The nuclear
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: family did matter. You're talking about democrats in the government
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: breaking up black families, Yes, I will, but we're talking
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: about how the Democrats broke up black families. These are lawmakers,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: mostly white law makers in this very country that did
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: these racist things. So you cannot say that I cannot
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: allow that to happen.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Mary. Let's let's talk really quickly. Maryon, you talk a lot.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: You talk a lot as well. Facts. We all got
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: to respect each other, right and as much as we
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: respect you. This is one of the hosts of the show.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: And I see what I'm saying, and she's doing a lot.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: You guys are both talk me and Traum's just sitting here, nigga,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: this is my ship. And I ain't said but seventeen
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: words the whole time. So what I would ask and
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: you said that you're a great debate dodge, and I'm
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: speaking to y'all both. I may be speaking to Marion,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: but I'm speaking to you.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I'm listening.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Let's let a person finish their thoughts and if there
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: are lies or any type of things where you need to,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: you know, retort, let them finish, right, and let's just
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: be let's be respectful with the way, you know, like, yo,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: you gotta let me talk like this. This is her shit,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, we have it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: What I would say is just that it's difficult when
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: people go on for quite.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Well, trust me, I deal with it all the time.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I understand only because there's so many points broad you
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, and it's hard to then retort
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: without also going on a longer tangent. And I have
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: to point out that I was actually in the middle
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of speaking when you started speaking off the whole time,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: right again, So I'm not offended by that issue with it. Yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: just making sure like I'm very chill about it. But
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the thing that is difficult for me, and I hear
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: what you're saying, and you're not Again, you're not making
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: a wrong claim. I just think you're making an incomplete claim.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: What frustrates me is that people ignore the realities of
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the totality of the changes that have happened towards the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: black community.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: So one great migration, absolutely, but then again, we did
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: settle into our own neighborhoods.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Red lining.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Funny enough, I'm a real estate agent, right, I'm very
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: aware of what red lining is. The way I look
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: at it, though, is that when you have red lining,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you literally are telling people to keep thing amongst each other.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: That's actually probably a better thing.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: When we've decided, oh we need to be included, we want,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you know, we want to be desegregated. What happened now
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the standard of what a black family looks for is
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a white standard. Now I'm not happy with my black neighborhood.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to go over there. I want to go
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: past the fence. Now, I'm not happy working in my
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: black person's community or working for the black person in
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: their job, in their company that they've built, because they
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: can only pay me so much.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I want to cut you off.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: But we got told as a black community, we were
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: told that what we've built for ourselves is not good enough.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: So when we have desegregation happen, we see black people
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: stop going.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: And think about this.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Our top minds, our smartest black people. They're no longer
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: going to Howard. They're no longer going to Hampton. Now,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they want to go to Harvard and Princeton because that's
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the bigger fish to them. Right my way of looking
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: at it again, when I say make Black America better
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: or make Black America great again, I'm talking about a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: time where we focus inward, and we also kept ourselves inward.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: We fed each other with our money. We didn't have
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to remind somebody shot black. Make sure you shot black.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: That was our only option, and we were happy to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: do it right. We went to our schools where black
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: teachers taught black kids. You know what happened when they
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: desegregated the schools. Black teachers lost jobs because black schools
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: were no longer being attended, So black teachers got fired,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and we had little black kids like my father, who
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: was the first to desegregate a white school for his
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I believe middle school have the teacher to assume that
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: he couldn't read exactly. So my point is, again, what
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you're saying is correct, and I will never disagree or pretend.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: It's impossible to pretend that there wasn't an attack, an
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: intentional attack against the black community. But what I'm saying
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: is we were stronger when we had only ourselves to
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: lean on. Now now thank the Democrat policies, Thanks to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Democrats saying, oh, it's the government's job to come in
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: and take care of the black community. Thanks to things
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: like public housing, thanks to things like not just Section.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Eight with a snap and EBT.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, now it's more beneficial for a black woman to
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: not have her husband at home because now I can
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: give the money from the government to take care of
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: these kids instead of my husband, who should be helping
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: with these bills right now. We have a culture that
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: has been taught to lean on the government and create
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: or use the government as its primary financial You.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Know, are you talking about Jewish people.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: That's the challenge with Jewish people there.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Look, you're not gonna get me to.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Do because from what I know, they use it way
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: more than but.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: There they stay together. They are playing the system. I
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: agree with you, I know that's a fact. But the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: father is still in the home. They got five six
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: seven kids. Mom and dad are both together and they're
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: playing this system and we soone should go read on how.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: They're getting it done because respect.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: But my point is we still have a nuclear family.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: They still have a nuclear family. They because they put
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: community over everything else.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: They don't care about going to a white man's job.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: People, I'm tired of talking about.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: They don't.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: They don't put community. They put their religion everything religion
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: is well, it's the religion, it's not it's the reason
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: they have a community is because they populate near their
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: mosque or near their they work their temple. But it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: not because they actually form community with.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: They really do.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I've lived in I've lived in Midwood, I've lived in
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: now I'm living in Coney Island. I have lived in
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: places where out.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: And shout out to the Jewish communities in Brooklyn.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Have some great Jewish communities in Brooklyn, don't I will
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: say that they when I say community, these people, these
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: people first of all, they still they still have arranged marriages,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: like they are so ingrained that they don't even creepy. Actually, hey,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: if it works, I want you to finish your argument,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: but I would love please can you please add mass
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: incarceration to your argument, because you're that is a point
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: that we're missing.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: And I think the drugs into the black community absolutely, But.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Which government that was you're saying war on drugs.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: In the United States?
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: It was it was Reagan. It was Reagan. He's the
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: one that did the war on drugs. He's the one
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: that sat there and said that you had Pablo Escobar
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: taking pictures outside of the White House when they was
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: looking for him. Wasn't that Reagan? And my bugget I want.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: To be clear, this is not a Democrat verse Republicans.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I know you have those debates often, this is not
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: that conversation. We're talking about the United States government.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Right, this is what I'm saying. At the end of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the day, we have to bring that in because before
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: the government can say it's better for the man not
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: to be in the house, before you could talk about
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: snap and wick, and we could talk about public housing
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, we have to also understand the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: generations of families that lost black men in their family
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: due to mass incarceration, due to unfair drug lords, due
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: to the ninety three Crime Bill and all the rest
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: of this other stupid shit that actually pulled men out
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: of the homes and the women had to supplement their
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: lifestyles and supplement these kids somehow by getting these government
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: handouts or however you want to call it. And his families, Yes,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: these families did not. The nuclear family did not just
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: break up because of only because of the feminist movement.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just that. You have to also talk about
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the over criminalization of black men and black boys when
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: it was very difficult for people that didn't have a
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: certain amount of education to be able to get certain
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: jobs and hold high paying jobs to take care of
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: their families. So what do you do when you can't
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: afford some people decide that maybe I am gonna try crime,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I am gonna try briblin and stealing and selling drugs.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And then now you're in jail for thirty some nine years,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and you have several generations that didn't have the patriarchs
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: of their Fai families. So we cannot say that without
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: adding that tidbit in. And that is also a product
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: of America and its laws and its criminalization of black people,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and back to that terroristic state. We cannot thrive in
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: this country till the races get their freaking boots off
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: of our next and allow us to actually do it
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and do it for real.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I hear you, and you know, Mike drop
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: because I was good. That was very solid. That was
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: a very solid you know. I hear you, and I
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: agree with you.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Like again, my page says pro black conservatives. Right, So
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not the person that's going to ignore our history.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: try and deny that it happened.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: When I say Black America great again, I'm saying, yes,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: these things happen to us.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Where do we go from here? Make us great again?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Not hold on?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Please please, I wasn't gonna say anything. I'm chewing on
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: what you're saying, okay, because I understand that acknowledging the
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: past might be important as far as are standing where
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: we're at. But I look at it like a woman
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: that keeps saying, well, I had this baby, that's why
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I'm out of shape.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: It's been twelve years, the baby is in middle school.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: You at some point need to go to the gym
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: if you want to get back to shape.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Right, So it has happened.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Those things have happened to us, and there are definitely
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: still instances of discrimination, not oppression, not oppression, discrimination, and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I am very intentional about making that distinction. It doesn't
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: make oppression. It does make it better because discrimination can
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: be checked. Discrimination. It's okay, I don't I don't mind
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: her her, you know, retorting, But as long as I can,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I just my ad libs, don't respond to them.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: But discrimination gets checked.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: We have laws that now demand the accountability for people
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: that are discriminating. That's why redlining laws exist, et cetera. Right,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: that's why when we hear that the other day or not.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: The other day.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Two years ago, Navy Federal was found to be discriminating
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: against black and brown homeowners or home seekers and giving
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: them worse terms, or not even approving them for loans
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: even though they had the same you know, qualifications of
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: a white couple that became news and was corrected because
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: discrimination not oppression. Oppression is when these things happen and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the government says it's fine, I'm ignoring it. I'm not
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: gonna make it right. So we are no longer in
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a place of oppression. You and I can walk outside
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: right now as black women and do whatever we want.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: These two black men can go do whatever they want.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: They can own homes, they can own businesses, they can
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: own whatever they want in this country. Okay, so oppression,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I keep telling people, if you want to see oppression,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: be a woman in Afghanistan. If you want to see oppression,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: go to North Korea. If you want to see oppression,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: go to somewhere with real oppression. You will be grateful
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to be any color in this country.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: I have a question.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, go ahead, I agree with you. Oppression and discrimination
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: are two different things. Why is America discriminating against its
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: own Americans? Meanwhile, however, you are putting your hands in
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: other people's foreign affairs and This is what I'm talking
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: about when I say America first, I am an American.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I should not have to deal with the discrimination of
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: the country that I am native too. I am an American.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Why is it even necessary that I have to file
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I have to go prove file a lawsuit against a corporation.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And you're saying that you want black people to be
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: better when we still have all of these things that
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: are stacked up against us, and we shouldn't because we
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: are American. That is the problem that I have with
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the Third World as country. Okay, one, it's it's not
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: it's dirty. Go visit the third World and then come
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: dirty here India. And not even India's like second World.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: But places in India have literal trash rivers. Like you
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: if you have not gone to other places that you
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: look at the Hudson lately. No, I'm talking about you
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: can walk across the Hudson because there's so much trash
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: in it. Please look look up the trash river in
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: India when you have a chance. Someone put a picture
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: of it into the chat. I told you I don't
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: give a shit about the other country, right, But then
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: you're saying, okay, no, I'm saying American needs some large claims.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: America has to take care of America. That is the claim.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: How I think that Trump is taking care of America.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Because when I look at again mass deportations, and I
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: look at the fact that so many people are coming
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: here immediately helping themselves to our social services programs, which
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: is our taxes, I think that that's a fantastic thing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Do you know that this year twenty twenty five was
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the first time we had negative migration, meaning we actually
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: lost more people than we took in, which is a
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: fantastic thing in my opinion. When we also look at
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: the realities of you know, I'm not even going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: get into foreign affairs. Yeah, stay away from foreign to
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: stay away from refugees. I'm talking about just for the
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Americans that are here right now. How is America helping
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the real Americans in this country when we are still
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: dealing with discrimination and discriminatory practices in this country. How
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: are we if you're saying make black Americans great again,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: how can we even get that even playing field when
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: there's so many things that are still discriminatory against us today.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: That's all I would ask, right being that I asked
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: you about MAGA. Do you believe that MAGA believes they
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: want to make Black America great again.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think that MEGA makes a huge distinction between
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: each individual race of people in America. When they say
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: make America great again, We're talking about an overall American economy,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: an American home ownership rate and American education rate. We're
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: talking about Americans having babies and having healthy, you know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: being healthy. We're talking about America as American.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I would think they want to make white America.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: When you say they though you're you're I'm talking there's
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of big things.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: That are interning for you.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you would have to tell her to stop inviting
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: me and hang out on her roof privately.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Because she's black.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Oh go.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I have mostly black conservative friends, and you guys need
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: to understand how many black conservatives there are because black
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: people are mostly conservative, especially aways have been until hold On,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: until the Civil Rights movement, we were voting primarily conservative.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: The only reason we started voting Democrat is two reasons. One,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: when Roosevelt gave the New Deal in the thirties, Yes,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and that introduced public housing, and we thought that it
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: was a good and brand new, wonderful thing that was
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: going to help and fix everything.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: And we now see how horrible that has turned out.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: But that wast us and then it wasn't for us
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: in itself. But it didn't win us over, is what
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. It took decades for that to happen. We
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: black people in public health. That was for the real immigrants,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that was for the Irish, that was for the Italians.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: When we talk about like the starting of the ghettos, like.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: That's not I agree with you. You're correct. I'm not
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: just talking about public housing.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: As far as why Black Americans started to lean towards Democrats,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the New Deal, the promises of government assistance,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: government help, that's what came with the New Deal. This
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: was on the wake of the Great Depression, so they
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: felt that they had to do something to help people
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: get back and that made sense at the time, yes,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: but they never put a stop to it. And that
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: was the issue people I used to I agree, and
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: A conservative base.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: We say, Yo, there's too much social services going on.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: There's too much giving people the ability to just lean
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: on the government and not strive to make something of themselves.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: You can't also have discriminatory laws that set people back
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and not allow them fair access to the same things
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: they're nobody. All right, I'm not gonna make a blakeant
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: statement like that, But what I am going to say
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: that there are a lot of people that don't want
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: to be on government assistance, that don't want to live
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: in the price, that don't want to lean on the government.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: That they want to be able to stand on their
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: own two feet and be able to survive. But it
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: is very, very difficult because we are still dealing with
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: laws in a regime that are still treating Black Americans
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: as if they are second class citizens, as if they
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: are not full bred Americans with you. But it's it,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: literally is the truth, and we can even take it.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: We're stopping someone from getting out of the projects. What's
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: stopping someone from getting out of the access resources, financial literacy, money,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: better paying jobs. It's not like people in the project
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: are making one hundred thousand dollars. Can people in the
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: projects of Albany projects that's right down the block, can
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: they afford a house in New York City right now?
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Yes or no? One yes or no?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Then they cannot.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: But here's a deeper question. Why is that? Because when
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: you again, when we look.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Into hold on, when we can look into why housing
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: is so scarce, we have to turn the conversation back
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: to illegal immigration. Believe it or not, Listen, I'm a
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: real estate agent. I did this math. There's estimated six
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand illegal migrants in New York City alone. There's
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: only one hundred thousand homeless people. So and of the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: homeless people, about sixty percent.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Are illegal migrants.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: So if we're talking about who's taking up the especially
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: low income housing, we know the illegal migrants are living
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in these high rises. We're talking about people that will
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: come and they're comfortable living in one room. And I
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: know this because I live in Coney Island.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Everyone in my building is renting a room.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: You can see the signs renting a room, ab rentar,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: which means nobody can afford to live here. But it's
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: also because again, a lot of the inventory is being
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: taken up by people who are not supposed to be here.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And if you go to food bank lines. There's a
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: food bank at my church or yeah, food bank at
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: my church every two weeks. The vast majority of people
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: in those lines are migrants. And I'm not saying this
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: with a to veer our conversation. But my point is
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: when I say I like what Trump is doing with deportations,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a prime example of why this is
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: important to me and one of my first videos that
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: went viral. Especially black and brown men that do not
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: have a college degree, they need blue collar work right.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: They need plumbing jobs, they need electrician, they need moving
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: in storage, they need landscaping jobs.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Who's dominating those fields?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: A lot of brown people, not just brown people, illegal
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: brown people. They stay brown, but it doesn't they are
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: not Americans. So if you're going to be America first,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: if you're going to say why are we not helping Americans,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: we have to look at where are the opportunities for
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Americans going?
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: And I'll give you another example.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: In Florida, they passed the law saying that if you're
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: going to drive a truck, you need to speak English.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Do you know that because of that racks men. It's
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: not rasis how are you driving a huge vehicle that
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: can kill people and you can't read our signs?
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: That's not racist, it is safety.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: You have to be able to speak to people. You
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: have to be able to understand the signs that you're passing.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: You need to be able to speak the language if
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: you're going to operate such a massive vehicle that you and.
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: If you look at the number of people, look into
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: the number of people that.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Have been killed because of illegal immigrants driving trucks and
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: causing I'm not making this up. It's not that you're
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: making it up. I don't believe that you're making it up.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I do believe that you have researched these specific things.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Oh they're news stories. I'm plased to read them. They
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have to them.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: They come up.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is, oh, I'm not really
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. And this is what I really believe, like,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. We can continue to blame and point
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: fingers at immigration, migrants and all of these different things,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: but even if they were not here, this country is
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: still racist against the real Americans of this country. Even
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: before most of these illegal migrants and all this were here,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: these laws that are in play, that are in practice
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: have still literally had their boots on the next and
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: on the backs of black Americans. And that's why I
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: can't concede to these thought processes or these the evidence,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the news, or whatever you want to call it, because
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, that still is not
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: stopping the upward trajectory of black people, because the upward
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: trajectory of black people has been stopped and started and
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: stopped and started and stopped and started since they dragged
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: our asses over here. So when you're when you're saying
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: up upward trajectory, I again, I find it confusing that
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: we can't look at the facts because when I see again,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: and I don't mean to harp on the illegal immigration thing,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: but I need to bring up the fact that again,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: if we have a concern that black people aren't being
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: disenfranchised by this country, one thing that historically historically, but
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: you're making the claim that it's still happening.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Absolutely okay.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: So what I always ask is, how is it that
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: black people it's so hard for black people to succeed here.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yet someone can come here with no education in our
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: former education, even not speaking English, and they can do
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: well for themselves because of the laws. What laws of
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the command don't make me do this, namely a specific
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: law that holds back black people.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: It's not all right?
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: So let me let me not say that it's not
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: the laws. It's because of the discrimination. Because Atie Inca
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: could come to America as a Nigerian student and get
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: more than lakwan from the projects, and that's happening because
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: of Democrat policies. This is what I'm saying to you.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Because of Democrat policies. However, a lot of the red
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: states are in the South.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Right or wrong?
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Are black people doing better in red states than they
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: are in blue states? No, they're not, Yes they are.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Look at the home ownership amongst black people in Texas.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Look at the home ownership amongst black people in Florida.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Look at the income, the standard income in Texas. Texas
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: is actually considered the best place to be a black
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: person in the entire country. I know this because I
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: deeply research potentially going to Texas.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: That's because the major the major cities are predominantly black.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: The major cities are predominant because they have it's also
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: because they have no property tech not properties, no income
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: tax because Texas because okay, okay, okay, let me let
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: me give you, let me give you a roundabout of this.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead. One.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: What you're addressing about the man coming here and getting
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: more research sources than a black person. That's a huge
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: reason I'm stopped voting Democrat, especially here in New York City,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: because Democrats are the ones saying.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: We're a sanctuary city. We're going to take care of
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: you if you come here.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I when I when I was facing homelessness as a
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: black American that has been here and contributed my taxes,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I was denied for rent assistance. But I said, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: bet you if I walked in here and I said,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: my name is Maria, soy Maria, no tango, I d
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that's ranta.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: If I did it, they would have gave me money.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And I saw exactly that's discrimination in this country.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: It is democrats.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: We're not republic because you're asking me, how am I maga?
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: You're asking me how am I magna? I've been, We've
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: been past that. We're talking about America. No, we're talking
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: about but my my my thing is America's ghetto, and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: America needs to start taking care of America. Americans should
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: not be discriminated against an America, point blank, period, face stop.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I don't give a damn if you're a Democrat. I
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: don't give a damn if you're a Republican, you cannot
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: say America. First, you cannot believe in black people and
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: their upward trajectory in America, but not understanding and coming
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: to terms with the fact that the laws the discrimination.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: One law, I've asked you one law that directly discriminatory
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: against black people, but you know that's not going to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: happen because there is not.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: But again, so then you can't keep sing.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: But said he wants to interject.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: I got a quick question because I don't necessarily disagree
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: with you about the migrant taking some of the resources.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: I think we're talking about a lot of small, minor
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: things here, and I think that the bigger question is
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Trump and his administration has purposely created the divide where
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: poor people of all you know, statuses, immigrants or not,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: are now fighting each other and blaming each other and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: pointing the finger over who's taking whose resources. Meanwhile, let
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: me finish. Meanwhile, while Trump and his entire administration and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: everybody that is around him, they're actually taking all the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: resources from all of us. And we're over there fighting
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: talking about the migrants are taking our opportunities and resources
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: and apartments, and we're pointing the finger at each other
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: about who's holding each other back where? But you're pro
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: Trump and pro Maga where him and his billionaire conglomerate
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: that's around him. You don't feel any ways about the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: resources that they're taking from everybody.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, give me an example of resources that billionaires are
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: taking from the everyday American. What are planes that got
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: to loan? Are resources that take away from American people?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: They are? Now, what do you mean, we're very planes
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: taking away from our ability to fly? No, no, no, no,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: it's not from taking away from our ability to fly.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day. With the thing that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: they do is they over use resources that other people
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: in this country still need. Why how are you able
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: to take a plane, fly from one city to another
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: just to take a meeting and a private plane so
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: we're talking about it doesn't affect they pay, I'm okay,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: but actually stimulate the economy by doing those things. How
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: is this about the rest of the America kids that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: literally can't afford to eat? What does that have to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: do one with it? Now, you're making a very completely
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: separate claims. What does what does someone flying from one
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: side to the next in their own vehicle have anything
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: to do with whether or not you can get food,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: because I don't understand that, because that is what's the
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: thought I'm trying to make. The thought I'm trying to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: make is an example of rich people that are over
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: compensated and they're doing more to the detriment of poor
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: people in America. You know resources, they are using resources.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: They are not the point that, yes they are, babe,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: they are creating resources. Do you think about, babe, who
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: hires the most people in this country? The billionaires that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: own the big creations, the billionaires that own the big companies,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: and the US government corporation considered the biggest corporation.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: Right, and you know America, how much has Trump personally,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: how much of his network has risen since his presidency?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: How much?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: How much do you for an actual salary?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's besides the point. You don't need a salary
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: as long as you can cipher your money.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: From only one that didn't take a salary because he's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: the only.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: One that still doing business as a president.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: No, it's okay, No, I don't know.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: A perfect example is people like Elon Musk that have
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: profited from government contracts, but meanwhile the government has shut
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: down and regular t s a blue collar workers aren't
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: getting paid in a timely fashion.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: That's the Democrats causing shutdown. I will remind you in
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: your opinion the fact no, no, no, she's right, but
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: it's but there is a you're missing a very important
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: because they want they want Ice to stop rounding up illegals.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: That's why they have the government shut down.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Because Ice is.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: Fact that Trump actually said that he has the money
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: to pay them.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: One he offered to, but he can after they were
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: not getting paid for months.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: He do offer to.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: My whole point is they were not getting paid for months.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: The ability you're now making this a Trump problem, as
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: if he started the shutdown, and or as if he's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the one that's continuing the shutdown. He has offered to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: pay these people. Elon Musk has offered to pay this
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: hold on and he actually got a bill passed to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: pay these people.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: The agent point and multiple others.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: It's not just the point is who is benefiting. We're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: talking about migrants creating it uh an atmosphere where black
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: Americans are not getting their proper due and proper resources.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: We're fighting for pennies, right, I'm talking about the people
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: that you are actually admiring and saying are pro you know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: have pro black policies. The Trump administration are actually the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: ones taking all the resources and the point they're allowing us.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: They're creating the narrative where we're pointing the finger at
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: each other. It's poor white people are putting the finger
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: at poor black people and poor migrants and all poor people.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: This is an economic divide, while the people on top
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: that you admire, that you're saying are pro our interests
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: are actually running off with billions of dollars in excess
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: funds that they do not have prior to this administration.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Are you aware of how the stock exchange works?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Absolutely?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: So it frustrates me because people are pointing out how
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: much money Trump might have made or whoever. No one's
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: talking about the individual investors that saw, oh hey there's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: a bunch of oil that's about to come into the country.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should invest in oil. Oh hey, we have
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: a huge change that's happening. Anytime there's a regene change
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: in any other country, stocks change. Anytime there's a presidential
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: change in this country, stocks go up or down. People
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: made a bunch of money as well. They're focused on
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Trump because they want you to focus on Trump, but
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: he's not.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: The only thing.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: No, it's not inside you know who was inside of trading?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Is This is the truth.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I can't make that up.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: We're not here to talk about Democrats or Republicans.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that as government and the.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: Entire system of white supremacy is what we're talking about.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: And I think that you're I think so.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: That's where my debate lies. Like for you to be
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: consider them a pro black administration or for our best
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: interests is that's where I'm debating.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: So I did not say that.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Actually I said I'm a pro black conservative, and I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: said that I do believe. I said, I believe in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: making Black America great again, and I believe that the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: black community needs to come back to conservative values in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: order to be great again.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: That is my core beliefs. In general, I do.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Think that the policies that the Trump administration are enacting
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: are more beneficial than detrimental to the black community for
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: multiple reasons. I think it's a good thing to remove
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: people that will do work that we need for less
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: than we're willing to take. I think it's a good
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: thing to tell black people to stop aborting their babies.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing to promote the idea
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: of working for your self, of entrepreneurship, of capitalism. Capitalism
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: is what builds strong countries and gives people the opportunity
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: to create a business that then turns around and hires
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: other people. It is a good thing to have capitalism.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's important to not suggest to black people
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: that living on the government is the way that you
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: should be. It's okay to have some help for a season,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: but we have people that have been on the government
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: assistant for generations. We have people living in public housing
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: that have received housing from them. You know, their grandmother
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: was the first one on the lease, and it's been
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: handed down in the projects. And we wonder why people
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: aren't leaving the projects because it doesn't make sense to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: leave the project.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: It's easier to stay there.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: You're so you're again, you're putting all these points out there, right,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: and I want to argue with all of these different ones, right,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: But you're saying one against abortions, but then you're telling
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: that people is on government assistance. Yeah, why would you
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: if you don't have the money to support a.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Child, Why are you having sex Oh.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: You don't have sex. You're a Christian, so you don't
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: think that you should.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: But even happen, how do babies get here? But if
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: things happen, how do things happen by having sex? So
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: what do you want a lord to tell people not
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: to have sex?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Because what I'm saying is the neighborhoods, right, the communities,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: they fall victim to. These families that can't raise a
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: child properly because they don't have the income, they don't
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: have the education. These people that are having three four
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: kids and they're on snap, Medicaid or WICK or whatever
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: it is, they're not able to parent that child correctly.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: So I would much rather meet personally them have planned
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: parenthood me personally, then say just keep having as many
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: kids and then set your kids out into the street
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: because you can't take care of them. And then they
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: they live in hand the mouth and see you and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: your child walking down the block and saying, you know what,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: I like her cross because I don't really and Pops
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: don't really know enough to teach me any better. You
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying, So it's kind of like we
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: have I don't think that the idealistic views of what
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: community should be. But we have to pay attention to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: the micros as well.
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  Speaker 2: So I hear you, and again, this is why conservative
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: values is what I'm saying. Because conservative value says wait
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: until marriage to start having sex and having kids. Right,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: conservative values would take that entire conversation mostly out of play,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: because we wouldn't have as many single parents, single mothers,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: as many teen parents, as many people who cannot afford
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: their children and who are not ready to have children.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: We would have a.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: More present mindset, a more focused mindset when we're thinking
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: about starting a family.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Also, I do not believe that the value of a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: child's life should be determined by whether or not their
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: parents wanted them, or whether or not their parents have money,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: or whether or not they're going to be raised in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: the hood. I think that child won said exists, and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: by exist, I mean once it is in its mother's.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Womb, has value.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: So I am not comfortable with the idea of saying
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: a poor person is better off of borting their child.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: And also that is eugenics, and it frustrates me that
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: the black community doesn't see that.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: But when Margaret Sanger created Planned Parenthood.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: She is on records saying we need to stop black
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: people from having babies. These people are born to be poor,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: they're born to be menaced to society. They will never
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: do anything good with their lives. It is better the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: same exact words that you just said in a different way.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: It is better for them not to exist than to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: be let loose in society. So I am firmly against it,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: and I think that I would love to see the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: black community instead of having a conversation of well, how
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: come you know you want to cut this, let's talk
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: about teaching our daughters respect yourself enough to wait a
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: little while before you have sex, teaching your sons babies
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: come from sex.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: And it's not cute to have three, four or five
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: baby mamas.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: It's not cute to be out here slinging it at
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: any pretty face that has a big booty.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Yah know your worth absolutely, That's what I'm saying.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: So when I say that the black community deserves conservative values,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I really firmly do believe that. And I think that
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: if we took it upon ourselves to say, you know what,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: bad things have happened to us? This country has been
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: a crap to us. The government hates us, Sure, how
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: is it that the Jewish community here in Brooklyn, New York.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm going somewhere the Jewish community here in
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: New York. Jews came here and people hated them just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: as much. Right, we know this. We know the KKK
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: hates some Jews. Their ability to sustain has been in
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: coming together after every individual attack. And I'm not saying
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: that they were attacked more than us. I'll never say that.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I always have debates with them.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like the Holocaust was not as bad as slavery.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: You cannot convince me of that.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: What I will say is Black people are resilient. We
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: are amazingly resilient, and we are extremely creative. We have
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: immensely brilliant minds. Right as you mentioned multiple We've invented
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: multiple things. We know how to start communities, We know
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: how to become millionaires and billionaires. We have millionaires and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: billionaires today. We can shift this entire conversation that's happening
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: within the black community, but we have to start by
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: opening eyes and being real about the actual problems.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: So when I say I'm maga, I'm not worried about
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: how white America is doing and if you watch a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: debate I did. I told a girl, I said, we're
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: talking about black people. I do not want to hear them,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: but what about them? I don't care what they're doing.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: If at the very most, I might look at them
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: as an example that we can replicate, but I do
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: not care that they're not good with money either. We
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: need to get better with money. You mentioned people you
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: know don't have financial education. YouTube exists. At this point,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: that is no longer an excuse. We have men like you,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: men like you, women like you. You can start a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: youth group. You can go into schools and offer to
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: you know, teach a free class. You can give free
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: classes at the library. We can take it upon ourselves
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: to educate our people. But if we're going to continue
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: to say, oh, the government, the government, then we're saying
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: the government has to fix us, instead of saying the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: government sucks.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Let's fix ourselves.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: The government need to get us out of our way, Yes,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: get out of our way. Yes, but that's our own conversation.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: I don't believe so, and again I asked.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I asked for laws that stop black people from doing
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: anything and person that's actively happening in the country, and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: you can't. Again, I'm not saying that they there isn't
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: individual discrimination, but laws versus what else individual company does
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: are two different things.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Can you the uh? I have you again? You? You did?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: You said so much and I would love to be
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: able to break it all down. We only have five
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: minutes left. I'm just going somewhere else, okay, right? War
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: in Iran? Right now? Right? I need to go. Like
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: that's one of the that's one of the main points
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: that it's one of the main I wanted answers to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: that before you left, Before you leave, Like I said,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: we only have five minutes. Do you like where we
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: are in this war today?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Do I like where we are? I don't like war,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Let's be clear, Like right, I don't like it. I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: don't want it to be happening. I also don't like
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: the how do I explain it? I don't like the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: concept of US perpetually having to be involved in other things,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: believe it, Like I am America first, I did hope
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: that Trump was going to be more like or less
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: active in other countries affairs. I did hope for that,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: and I think that he's doing a decent job of
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: not being.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Everywhere all at once.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: Really I do.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: I think so, because he's everywhere, but not every single
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: play right, like it could be worse. And the major
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: issue I have with Iran or my thoughts towards Iran,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: I think that the President has a longer term goal
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: that the vast majority of.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: US don't understand quite yet.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: I watched a person that kind of broke down the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: strategic the strategic advantages of US being involved in Iran
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: and their proximity to our you know, larger enemies of
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: China and Russia. So I don't claim to be someone
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: that understands war. As you know, I'm not a war buff,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: a war history buff. I do know that I don't
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: think that it's going to be that bad for America
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: is basically what I would say, like, I really don't.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: I really don't. I think that I would rather us.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: Well, well, we've entered into this situation other people and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: you were we've we've ented into this situation, and you
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: were like, listen, let this man do what he's gonna do.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: This is why I like Trump. He knows what he's doing.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: He's not gonna play games. We went over there, we
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: got the peace treaty, y'all, gotta stop, you know, jumping bad.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: Let him do what he's gonna do. But that we have.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: That did change as of like this morning.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Sure it is exactly. So we're taking right now. Why
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: are we taking a major L.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: We're taking a major L because the peace deals did
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: not didn't it didn't work.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Like Iran did not.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: They did not concede. No, they did not concede. They didn't.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: They did not come to the table and say, yes, America,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: we're gonna let you have what you want to have.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: They basically said fuck you, suck my dick and sent
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: jd Vance and the rest of them back. So now
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: Trump is like, oh, we're going to cut off the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: straight ourselves. We're gonna send the navy, We're gonna send
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: all these Americans over there. So since you don't want
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: to do what I want you to do, now I'm
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: gonna bully this whole other region so we can finally
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: get we want. The thing is the only thing.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: That I have.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of issues. But when we say
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I think I'm saying, and I swear I'm gonna be
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: done because I don't just want to make sure I remember,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I'll forget. I think that It is an interesting parallel
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: when you said that you think that Trump has a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: plan in the end that we're not just quite sure of,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: because I feel like that mirrors what we were saying
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: earlier in the conversation about religion. And that is another
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: reason why I be thinking that MEGA as a cult,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: because I don't think that a president should enter this
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: country into a war that Congress did not sign off on,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: that we did not ask for, and then you have
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: this master plan in the back of your head of
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: how it's going to end, and none of us are
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: in on it. I think that that's crazy.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: I very good.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: I think I think he's off of vibes. I think
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: he's off of vibes. I think that he understands that
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: he is the president of the unit in the States.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like last time he didn't really like shake
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: his little dick enough, and now he's like, yeah, I'm
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: here again, and I'm going to do whatever it is
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: that I want to do, and I don't care who dies.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: I don't care if Americans died. He even said, like
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: some Americans, We're going to have to sacrifice some of
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: our Americans. You don't give a fuck about nobody.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: But one record that we are only involved in this
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: to support our ally Israel. This is not some big
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: plan or not goal of America. We have no strategic
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: need to be involved in this whatsoever.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Mary, Okay.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: So one like where you were mentioning about how they
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: did not with you know, hold up to their portion
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: of the Priest Treaty. As I was saying to you earlier,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: this is what I mean when I say that you
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: can't negotiate gently with people who you have been trying
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: to negotiate with for forty plus years, who simply will
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: not read. So you must believe them eventually if you
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: need something to happen. There's nothing we can do other
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: than meet them at the place where they're at, which
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: is they're stubborn, so we need to be as stubborn
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: as them. What do we need from Iran? Well, first
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: of all, to open the strait of Hermo so we
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: can get the oil that you guys keep complaining. Oh
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: my guys went up one dollar, even though under Biden
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: it was seven dollars. I didn't care.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: But under Trump, now that it's four dollars, I'm freaking out.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, not in New York, but in California. It's like seven.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: So my question is, yes, what closed the strait of hermose?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: So it's all a complete, long standing trajectory of events.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: We know that we were in the GPOK j I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: POC NO JPCA. That was the agreement between the United
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: States and Iran with seven other countries. Right in, Iran
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: was supposed to not be creating nuclear weapons. That was
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: the agree we're doing weapons of mass destruction things.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: You think they don't have them, They've said they have them,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: it doesn't they've said it has matter.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: But we like.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: We like us.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: Record said that last June all the weapons have been removed.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Weapons have been believe we bombed them and we got
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: rid of their weapons. Their ability to create more is
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: the conversation that we're having now. Their ability to siphon
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: and to manufacture and to refine uraniums.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Right, this is a long standing thing. This is not
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Trump created.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Right again, Obama entered us into JPAK because from the
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: late eighties we have been talking about Iran's ability to
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: create nuclear weapons.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: So are we jailous Trump?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: No, no, why would we be jealous. We have a
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: way bigger artillery than them, So why do we care.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Do you care a bunch of people
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: if they even touch it? But did they? Did they
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: threaten to justification?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: It is?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: They didn't.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: They say Iran come out and say, you know what,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna bomb America. I'm gonna throw it. Get that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: whole Yes, when.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Every time they screamed death to America.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Every time they give they give weapons two people like
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Hesbolo Hamas to to al Qaeda? Did they give them
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: a nuke?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: They all they have to do is give them a nuke?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: But did they are you?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Do you want them to? But okay, so here's my question.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: Here's my question.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I'm here. Would it be better you know someone doesn't
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: like you? You know I don't like you. You see me
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: putting my gun together on the side. You're gonna wait
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: until like.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Shoot you to then decide to defend yourself diplomatic? I don't.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm the sense of the world.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: So just because I don't like you and you don't
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: like me, if you have a gun, I'm not going
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: to naturally assume that you finished shoot me. A couple
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: of other people, I'm going to shoot you, but you're
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: not gonna nuke me, but I am going to nuki.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: But weren't we in talks? Weren't we in diplomatic talks
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: when we yes, we initially started bombing, or are we not?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: In we went and spoke. Listen, we had met with
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: them in I can't remember the space like right now.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: We had met with them in. It's gonna come to
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: me later. Hey, we say them, America, thank you, the
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: country had met with the Iranian leaders. We did that
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: on Thursday, and we bombed them that following Saturday or
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Friday night it was Friday. Yeah, Why because they would
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: not negotiate, because they would not bow down to you,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: They would not bend the knee. So then what we
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: decided to do is I walked in here because our
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: our thought process is people to be soft America to
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: be soft America diplomatic. Diplomatic is not When we tried
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: for forty plus years, and then they did they said
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: something that I didn't like. They said something that America
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: didn't like. They did not fully concede to what America wanted.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: So America said, I boomed, Now I'm gonna throw a
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: bomb on his bitch. And then I ran said, oh
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: wait a minute ho. You think that you're gonna bomb us,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: you think you're finna win us, but you not. So
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: now I'm gonna cut your ass off because you fucked
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: up the whole we're sitting here trying to have a
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: diplomatic conversation and because I won't concede to everything like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: this is not the America that you have where you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: have control of the House of Representatives, you have control
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: of the Congress, you have control of the Senate, and
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: you can just do whatever you want. You can't come
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to my house and tell me that I need to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: do what you want me to do. I said that
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I'm willing to do, and if
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: we can meet in the middle, then we could meet
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: in the middle. But you're not gonna come over here
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: and tell me what I'm gonna do and what I'm
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: not gonna do. And then you went and bombed me. Yeah,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: you went and bombed me. And I shut your whole
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: shit off and now and now now, and we're gonna
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: make it worse. We're gonna make it worse. It's certdominance
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: because that's what you do. And Americans are going to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: the Americans. Americans will die if they bomb us. Anywhere American,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: you will die because of Hesbola and Hamas and al
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Kayeda attacks. We cannot keep ignoring that fact. And it
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: frustrates me that we're again We're not talking about New Zealand.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: We're not talking about Switzerland, We're not talking.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: About anywhere that hasn't viable.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: We're talking about one of the worst places in the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: world to be a woman. We're talking about one of
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: the worst places in the go anywhere else dressed like that,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: and I want to be that. I am an American.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I should be able to do what I want and
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: to exercise the freedoms that I was given my God
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: born giving American.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Give you those fighting against people that want to take
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: those freedom.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: This has been a great episode. I have one last question.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Yes for marrying Yes, is there anything that you don't
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: like that Mago or Trump himself has done, right, Because
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: I think that people see you and they're like, oh,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: she caps for everything he says, she finds a reason,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: She finds a reason. Is there anything that you're willing
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: to put on record, like, Yo, I don't like that
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: he did this, or you can go through my page.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: And see multiple videos that I've said that. I've criticized
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: me one I'll give you one example. I'm not crazy
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: about the student loan repaying. I thought that that was
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: unfair because I know that the vast majority of the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: people with student loans, they fell victim to the same
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: predatorial practices that happened during the housing crash exactly. So
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: that's something that I firmly said, you know what, this sucks.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that as it goes on and people complain
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: more and more, that Trump will change his mind on that.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: That's one thing that I'm completely against.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know that Trump. I thought that that
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: happened joining the Biden administration.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: No, Biden tried to alleviate the student loans, but Trump
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: went back in and said, no, you shouldn't.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Be pay that.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: He said, nah, I fuck that, you're gonna pay. Another
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: example of Americans being hurt by America. I mean sure,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: but again, the America that hurt the Americans were the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: American banks and realistically, these predatorial lenders. It really isn't
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: the government's fault that the government. You know that those
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: predatorial lenders came after us, and it would have been
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: nice if the government said, I see the problem, and
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: I'll alleviate it. And I do think actually down the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: line it might still happen. But we did take out
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: those loans. We took them we you know whatever, If
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: you can pay them back, you pay them back. If not,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: then down the line, if enough people can't pay them back,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: they'll they'll be a further you know.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Follow up conversation, country and debt.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: I'm cool, I ain't paying. Every country.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: Is in debt.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: Though we've been talking for a long time. We disagreed
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: on a lot of things. Some things we have agreed on.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: What do you think you found that black conservatives like you,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: like yourself? I think I could speak for everybody in
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: this room. I think we all consider ourselves pro black right.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: What are some things that a black conservative, pro black
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: person like yourself would agree on with people that are
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: black and progressive. I could give you an example.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Give me some give me some points that black progressives make,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you know whether or not.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: I'll give you an example of how progressive people will
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: sometimes agree with the Trump maga supporters. A lot of
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: Trump Maga supporters are anti government, and that's why they
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: like Trump to begin with, because he was kind of
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: bucking the system. And I think a lot of his
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: supporters are against Howard's handling the Epstein files because they
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: are against government cover ups. They want transparency, and I
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: think there's a level of agreement that a lot of
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: people have when it comes to that that are on
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: opposite size on a lot of other issues. So that's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: an example of where conservatives and progressives could be aligned.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Sure, that's definitely something I agree with as well.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm also a like, not a conspiracy
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: theorist in the regards of this particular thing.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: But I'm a realist, right.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: Like I said this on the episode that I just
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: did with you Believe, you know. The reality is there
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: has to be so many back alley conversations going on
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: around these Epstein.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Files on both sides of the aisle.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: The amount of people that must have threatened Trump, threatened
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: you know, anyone that is thinking about truly releasing the files.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: I don't blame anyone for dragging their feet. I don't
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: blame him Bondy. I would have liked to see her
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: just go ahead.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: And release it.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: But I cannot imagine the death threats that these people
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: are receiving, right because if we talk about the insane
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: number of higher ups that are implicated in this, that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: are probably guilty in this. That means billions and billions,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: if not trillions, of dollars are against whoever.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Decides to finally release this thing.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Right, so we're asking someone to take on a very
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: intense and serious risk to their personal well being, no
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: matter who else actually ends up going to jail, whoever
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: is the one that finally releases this and shines light
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: on that it's a whistleblower, and whistleblowers die every day.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: Right, we're basically saying that those trillions of dollars do
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: control the government.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, but that's what every single country we know
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: that that's a fact. But they're supposed to be draining
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: the swamps. And I think he's been doing doing a
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: very good job of realistically.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: Dismantling as much as possible.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Like, one thing that no one is talking about is
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: the amount of fraud that's been uncovered.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: And when you.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: See fraud that he supports that that did something he
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: feels did something for him. Oh, would hold him back?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Do you believe that he should have a third term.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: No, he doesn't want a third term. That he does
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: not want a third time. He's joked about it, but
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: he's not running for a third term.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: To say against the Constitution, just like it's not funny
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: to fan the flames of treason that is so anti American.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Even to joke about it is anti American. Let me
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: tell you what I is not funny. I went to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: the black it's the very long name, the app the black, Latino, Hispanic.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Something something else caucus. I can't remember the last.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Two caucus in Albany three for two or three months ago.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Right basically all of the black and brown mayors from
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: every you know city here in New York that has
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: a black of brown mayor.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: They were there.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: They did a mayoral caucus. They had a mayoral round table.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Every last one of them stood up there and said,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: we are, you know, dedicated to be in a sanctuary city,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: and if they come to us, we're gonna fight them,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: We're going to push back, et cetera.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: One particular mayor I have him on tape.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: He said, if Trump wants to give if Trump wants
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: to hire the Proud Boys for ice, then I got
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: some corner boys with big guns that can stand there
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: and exactly so if someone gets shot by Ice in Albany.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Can I now then say that this man incited violence,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: told people in his state to fight against armed forces,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: and he should go to jail for that. First of all,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: ICE is nothing but an American gestapo.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: I want to my question.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Ice is nothing but American gestapo. It is a terroristic agent.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: And if Americans, real Americans, decide that they want to
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: rise up against fake police or or or a fake
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: police state, I have no problem with that.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: Okay. So so let's be clear.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: You're very hypocritically saying that it is okay for Americans
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: to go against one portion of the government, but it's
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: not okay for Americans to storm the capitol. No, I'm
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: saying that if we live in the same America that
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: thought it was okay to storm the capital and to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: literally physically abuse and emotionally abuse people that were working
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: for America because that was actually their job, then Uchi
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Wally one mic, Yeah, run it back, run it back.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: If Januine six is okay, then what that what that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: man is said is okay. I don't think.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: We're going to speak of ICE. I do want your
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: thoughts on that, and then we're done.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: I'm done.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: Then We're done.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I've been done. I got to go home.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: I believe that the government is still closed to this day.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's been about two months now, right, we're
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: coming upon two months and it's the longest government shut
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: down in history. And you're saying that the Democrats are
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: keeping it closed.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, because they don't want to concede to ICE in
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: their fake ass.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: They want to make a change, let me finish.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, they would like to be a ICE to stop
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: wearing face masks. And I believe also to need a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: warrant to go into people's homes.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, to private property.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: These are things that are part of the United States
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: Constitution right that an officer would need to be able
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: to identify themselves and need a warrant to go onto
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: private property or into private property. But Trump has made
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: it legal as of right now for ICE to not
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: have to do that.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: And it has been legal previously when Obama. When Obama
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: was using ICE and when he became the Deporter in chief,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: they did the exact same things that.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: They're doing now, except for the mask. And do I
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: agree with what what.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: I should not need a warrant to go into homes
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: that they should not have to identify themselves as police.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: So one they do identify themselves as police, they wear
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: ves that say ICE police reason, the reason that they
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: have to stay covered. I can tell you from personal experience.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you if I took my business name out
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: of my bio on Instagram because Democrats and liberals were
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: leaving fake reviews for my company. They have called my
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: brokerage and made fake claims that I'm a discriminatory realtory, etc.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: So when I say that, I know for a fact
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: that if these men walk through a neighborhood and don't
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: have masks on, these people will take photos of them,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: they will find where they live, they will go harass them,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: and they will hurt them. I can tell you this
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: because I've seen how how the left reacts because they
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: have been inflamed. If we're talking about who's been inflamed,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: we need to talk about every single Democrat leader telling
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: people to fight back, fight back against ICE. Also, when
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: it comes to the warrants, it's just a silly thing
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: to think about. You're gonna ask someone I'm going to
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: get this person, I'm coming to get you. Because it's
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: not just the warrants. Let's be clear. It's not just
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: that I can give you all the points. They want
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: them to have warrants. They want them to not be
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: allowed to go into schools, churches, get this, schools, churches.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: Or polling locations.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, So the question would be, why would ice need
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: to go to a polling location if illegal immigrants are
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: not voting per what Democrats have been.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: Claiming, because you don't know, well, I would think that
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: you don't know for sure. There's plenty of people that
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: they've pulled over or it pulled out they card that
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: are American citizens, that is it. So the idea that
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: you would go into a polling location that could affect
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: an election when you don't have real proof over whether
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: it's this person is or isn't, is something that could
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: influence an election. I would think, I hear what you're.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Saying is very simply if we don't think that illegal
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: migrants would even be at a Poland location, then why
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: be intentional about adding.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: The only thing that I would say, the only thing
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: that I would say to end this very quickly before
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: before you do that is I lived through nineteen eighty
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two thousand, I was stopping frist. I was
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: saying I've been arrested for bullshit. I was standing next
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: to him and got just yanked off the train. Yo,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: you're getting arrested. You did something, and they dismissed it
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: two weeks later, like, oh yeah, it wasn't him. I
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: never went to find the DA, none of the police
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: that stopp and frisks me, none of that. So everything
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: that you're saying, regardless of whether you have a business
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: online and people went and did that, that's not a
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: thing where people go say, hey, this arrested officer lives
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: in Staten Island, lives over here in Long Island. Let's
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: go over here and for week we don't do it.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: It's not experience.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not discounting yours. I'm saying that, yes, I can
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: say that that could happen for you, but I'm saying
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: that for arresting officers, it's not a thing. Yes, I listen,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: Trust me. I know what it's like for people to
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: not like you based off your internet character. Trust me,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: I've been through it. You don't know me very well.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: We just started we write, but I've been through you.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Go in in my comments and see what they say
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: about me. I've had people come to my door. I've
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: had this happen. But it's never been a thing for
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: law enforcement to be to be hunted down by criminals,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: not a thing where it's like not a thing, but
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: it's work.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: Shot in their police vehicles just for being a cop.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: Do you know how much that's a different thing.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: The reality is when we have when we have people
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: told the law enforcement is your enemy, some vigilantes out
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: there always taken upon themselves to try and hurt those people.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: This happens after the LA riots, This happens after the
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: George Floyd protest, This.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: Happens every.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: Mask as well.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: What I believe the police one. That's not the conversation
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: that's happening right now.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: But if I.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Would say this, I would not blame them if they did,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: But they don't blame them.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: And it's illegal for them too. And they have to
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: have their badge on, and they have to have their dad,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: their their cams on. All of these things are there
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: in place not only for the safety of the officer,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: but also for the safety of the citizen. For ice
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: to be able to not have to do any of
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: those things, it is a gross negligence. It is very
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: reminiscent of the Gestapo. It's very reminiscent of a terroristic organization.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, we don't even
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: know how these people are trained. We don't know where
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: these people come from. And they can have masks over
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: their face. Why would they have have masks over their
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: face to be afraid of dealing with illegal people that
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: they are about to deport, people that technically don't even
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: belong here. But a police officer has to do all
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: of these things. Why can they not have the same
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: sanctions of every other cop, state trooper in this country
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: that is operating under the guys and the laws of
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: the land of this country. You cannot just grab somebody
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: off the street without due process. You cannot do it
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: without a warrant. You cannot do it without actually having
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: a reason. You can't just grab people up. But right now,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: that's what they're doing. You're grabbing people up. You're going
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: into schools, You're pulling out children, You're separating people from
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: their families, You're putting them into fake concentration camps. Kids
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: are being sexually assaulted in all types of shit that's
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: going on right here in this country. Before they get
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: shipped back to wherever they're supposed to be getting shipped to.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: And you're saying that that's okay. Every Democrat that keeps
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: voting against it, that is something important to vote against,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, it doesn't have
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: to stop with just fucking Spanish people or just Somalian people,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: or just Syrians, because then what happens when they come
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: to our black people's doorsteps, What happens when we have
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: our Afro Latinos that live in this country that are
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: a part of the blackness of this country too, what
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: happens when it happens to them, Because it's a discriminatory practice.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, we don't need ICE.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: We already have pds and state troopers, and we have
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: the FEDS, and we have all of these other organizations
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: that they have to do things the right way. ICE
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  Speaker 2: is not doing it the right way, and until they
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  Speaker 2: do it the right way, they should not exist.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: One ICE is going after people, plea ICE is going
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  Speaker 2: after people by name. ICE comes with a complete file
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  Speaker 2: on the people that they are looking for. There's actually
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  Speaker 2: multiple instances where you can see that people have blockaded
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  Speaker 2: the street and the ICE agents have shown them, this
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  Speaker 2: person's criminal history, how they are raping children, how they
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  Speaker 2: are in drug game, etc. And ICE is going after
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  Speaker 2: people buy name this whole idea of them rounding people
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  Speaker 2: off the street. They're picking people up specifically, Okay, that
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  Speaker 2: they know their names. It's a bunch of people. Because
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  Speaker 2: Biden led in tens of millions of people. Again, Biden
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  Speaker 2: did that the wrong way. These individuals came the wrong way. Also,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ICE agents and I'm not disagreeing with
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  Speaker 2: you that it's difficult.
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  Speaker 3: What's happening is difficult. It's a difficult situation. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of the.
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  Speaker 2: ICE agents are newer to ICE. They're not career long
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  Speaker 2: police officers. These men are doing this for a season
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  Speaker 2: and then they're going to go back into their regular lives. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I have understood not everyone. First of all, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them are black people. You saw the black
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  Speaker 2: woman who was spitting on a black ICE agent say,
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  Speaker 2: oh sorry, it was a white woman who spit on
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  Speaker 2: a black ICE agent saying how do you feel to
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  Speaker 2: be a race trader? But now the black community doesn't
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  Speaker 2: care if a black man gets spit on as long
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  Speaker 2: as he's wearing certain outfits. Right here, was getting fucked
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  Speaker 2: up at the insurrection. So can we just I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry.
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  Speaker 3: To wrap it up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate that this sounds and is difficult. I
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  Speaker 2: will remind everyone that it was not better during Obama's time.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is we have now had this society that
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  Speaker 2: is so anti Trump that even when he does exactly
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  Speaker 2: what Obama did, but not as egregious with less kids
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  Speaker 2: in cages, because the cages even exist because of the
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  Speaker 2: Obama I will remind you you can look that up
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  Speaker 2: right when we say we're not going to separate kids
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  Speaker 2: at the border, so we'll either we'll just support the
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  Speaker 2: whole family because we don't want to send a child
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  Speaker 2: back or send their parent back and leave a kid
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  Speaker 2: here without their families.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Also, we are ignoring the fact that there was one
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  Speaker 2: other insane clause, which is that they want in this bill,
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  Speaker 2: in this bill that the Democrats have suggested they want
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  Speaker 2: ICE to have to confirm that someone is not a
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  Speaker 2: citizen before detaining them. Hold on, So when I come
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  Speaker 2: up to you and I say, hey, are you the
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  Speaker 2: woman that I'm looking for?
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  Speaker 3: And you say, oh no, I'm not, I.
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  Speaker 2: Say, oh, well wait, wait, wait, you look exactly like
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: the photo that I have, and you say, no, that's
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  Speaker 2: not me.
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  Speaker 3: How do I force you to confirm who you are?
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  Speaker 2: Because, first of all, if how about this whole thick
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  Speaker 2: ass file, why at the top of the file it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't say this is a confirmed person. It is not. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: They need you to confirm who you are before they
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  Speaker 2: can pick you up. That's the law that they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to pass. And this is that is goofy. You know
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: how racist? You don't how racist some people are, Like
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: people say that all black people look like all Asian
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: people look alike. Just because I look like somebody does
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: not necessarily mean.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you.
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  Speaker 2: But now how do I get you to prove it
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  Speaker 2: in the midst of me trying to pick you up?
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Of course you're gonna say, I don't have my idea
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  Speaker 2: on me, and I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Have to let you go.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you should do. What you should do
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  Speaker 2: is serve me a summons. Serve me I think that
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: you think that you're this person, and then I have
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: to go and I have to go upon a judge.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: I have to go somewhere else and improve that this
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: is not me. You know, you can't just put fucking
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: cape over my head and throw me in the.
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  Speaker 3: Back of a party.
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  Speaker 2: Of these people have not shown up for their immigration trial.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they're going out missed their gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: I like, I just liked it in this by saying yo.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, y'all did y'all did an amazing job today.
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  Speaker 4: We as black people exist in all shape, size, forms, thoughts, processes,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: we really do. And I think this was a great
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: example of being able to have a respectful conversation when
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: we differ about our ideals. Right, I find it. I
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  Speaker 4: find it interesting that Marion is not only super willing
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: to come sit with us, but she said, YO, four
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  Speaker 4: years ago, I was completely different. This is something that
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  Speaker 4: I've learned, I've thought about, I've researched, I've debated time
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  Speaker 4: and time again a lot of us. I learned a
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  Speaker 4: lot from listening to this conversation from both of y'all
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  Speaker 4: and Tryma, you know, thank you for for your involvement
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  Speaker 4: in the conversation. Do your due diligence, right, do your research.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing that was said here has swayed me much, but
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: definitely educated me on some things that I'm gonna do
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: research on So I asked you that if you have questions,
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  Speaker 4: go over to hashtag h A S H T A
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  Speaker 4: G Underscore Marion m A r I E N on
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  Speaker 4: Instagram and underscore Marian on.
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  Speaker 3: Just hashtag Marion.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: Hashtag Marion on on YouTube to watch your videos if
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: you're interested. Remember first, she's a black woman. Speak to her.
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  Speaker 4: Respect if you differ, support her if you if you
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: do not, you have things coming up? Do you have?
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: You said you had a show that you just did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't wait to see that watching Believe, Yeah, just surrounded.
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  Speaker 3: I was one of the surrounded, not the surrounded. But
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  Speaker 3: that's really exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an watch when I get home, because it dropped
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: while I was in church. I did a couple more
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: Doctor Daff episodes, one Conservative versus twenty Liberals, so you guys.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: Can watch that.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: That would be was that fun?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something when I say I've never
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: seen people live up to stereotypes as much as those
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: women lived up to stereotypes.
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  Speaker 3: I spent half the time watching them argue amongst each other.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not even joking.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see that episode. We'll see how
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: much of the argument. They even leave in the you know,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: in the final episode. But I I'm going back out
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: there next month to.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: Do a few more episodes I have. I'm gonna be
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: live with John A. I cannot pronounce his last name.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: He is a.
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  Speaker 2: Preacher who goes around pointing out debaucherous books that are
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: in children's libraries and speaking to school boards and pointing
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: out the books that need to be removed because they
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: have illicit sex scenes in them and they're in the
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: libraries and middle schoolers like my daughter. And yeah, I've
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: just been doing a lot. To be honest, guys, I'm
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: working on the YouTube. So you know, if you have
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: episodes that you want me to things you want me
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: to cover, feel free to message me about that. But
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: I would say to end. Someone in the comments said,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: I wonder what life event made her change from Democrats
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: to Republicans. So what I will say is I started
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: actually thinking, and I realized that I had been not
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: thinking when.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: It came to politics my entire life.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: I was being a standard black person who just voted
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: blue because that's what you do as a brown person
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: in America. And when I decided not to take the vaccine,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and everyone in my life who used
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: to be my best friend and my family vilified me
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: for that and told me I was, you know, just
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: a horrible person.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: I started doing research.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: I came to Christ, read the Bible, received and understanding discernment,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: and looked around and realized that nothing that the Democrat
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: Party pushes is something that I want my community to
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: be involved in.
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  Speaker 3: So saying all that to say, thank you guys for watching.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: I know that it's easy, not easy, but I know
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: that it's hard to listen to someone that you don't
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: like and you know, receive them. So I respect everyone
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: in the comments for receiving me, and I would just
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: suggest that you go ahead and research for yourself, because,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: as I was telling you prior to the camera's rolling,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can call yourself anything without questioning it,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: questioning it again, and then deciding whether or not you
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: actually believe in it.
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  Speaker 4: That was a great way to end girl hashtag underscore Marion.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see y'all next week, So shameless shay, Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: Goodwill