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Trevor Bauer Will Pitch for League Minimum · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Nate. Might be episode 412, but it is
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  Football every year. Every year, right after the
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  Super Bowl. And I I'll admit, I've
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  contributed to those posts throughout the years.
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  But no longer. No longer.
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  I I don't I'm not doing any of it.
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  It's so it the trendy stop. We get it.
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  We're we're in this weird, like, depressive state of like, you
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  know, what do I do with my hands Kind of thing.
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  Just sit. Here, not the Dodgers.
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  Dodgers been spring training clips.
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  Dodgers been getting after it for a few days now getting ready
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  for the Korea series. But yes, baseball is officially
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  back. I I mean, it is what it is.
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  We we get to this point every year.
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  It's great seeing the guys back in all that and more.
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  More to come as the week progresses with report dates,
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  getting here, the 13th, the 14th, 15th even.
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  I think. But you know it.
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  It is what it is. Things really aren't going to
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  start picking up. I mean, there's there's a
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  handful of guys out there that don't even have a home yet and
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  we got pitchers and catchers reporting.
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  So you I think if we're being honest, there's a a cap on how
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  excited we can genuinely be at this at this point of the year.
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  But here we are. Spring training is meaning less
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  and less to fans, and it's meaning more to players.
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  You know what I mean? Like, you were just talking
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  about how guys are showing up early, and I know the Dodgers
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  like having that, the early series, but that's just a thing
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  now. Like players like show up a
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  month before they're supposed to report.
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  And I feel like us fans are like, I just get me an opening
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  day. I don't care.
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  Do whatever you need to do to get ready and stay healthy.
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  I don't care outside of that and I'm in a state where you can go
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  watch games, which I will. Don't get me wrong.
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  I just feel like we care less and less about Spring Training.
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  It doesn't have the hype that it used to be used to have, and
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  especially with guys that like sign, go do something.
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  What are we doing? What are you waiting for?
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  There's like, top There's one name in the middle of the
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  lineup, and then there's two frontline starters.
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  What are we doing? Why do they not have a home?
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  What are we waiting for? Spend money?
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  Go get these guys. What team outside of?
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  Maybe the Dodgers are saying our rotation's set, We're good.
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  We don't need a center fielder who can also play first base,
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  who also won an MVP who can also hit in the middle, middle of the
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  order. We're good.
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  What do you like? Go do something.
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  How about that Super Bowl, though?
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  I mean, what are we doing? We already knew we could see
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  that coming from a mile away. America was rooting for the
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  Niners. America outside.
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  Here's the thing. Overweight people in the Middle
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  East or in the Middle East? The the middle?
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  Yep. Middle Oh.
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  Known football Midwest out there in the Middle East.
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  Yeah, outside of the overweight BBQ drooling people in the
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  Midwest. That was an unnecessary stray if
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  I do this on myself. Do we have some if we have
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  Chiefs fans listening to us? Look, I started.
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  I just wanted. I didn't want the Chiefs to win
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  because I'm a I'm certainly a Brady supporter and and the
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  legacy that that entails. But because of that, I I didn't
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  want Mahomes to get that much closer to not even remotely
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  touching that legacy. But I did want to see the Chiefs
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  win just because I wanted to see if the Internet would break with
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  a proposal after the after the game.
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  It happened the the Chiefs did win, but the proposal did not
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  happen. So kind of kind of a lose, lose
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  there, you know? It's awful.
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  It's awful, dude. I'm just.
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  I'm so done. I'm so done, I'm all done.
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  All the off field garbage. I don't want it anymore.
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  I don't want it like just play football.
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  Let's just talk and watch football.
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  Leave everything else out, all the other stuff, and it's just
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  like we're just it's shoved down your throat.
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  All done. No mas.
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  Did you like any commercials? Let's get to some positive
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  stuff. Did you like commercials?
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  Anything stick out? I've I've said before, I'll say
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  it again. I don't even care that we're not
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  sponsored by them. I'll I'll throw free ads left
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  and right for the For these folks Dunkin' Donuts.
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  Shout out Dunkin for their superb collection of
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  advertisements this Super Bowl season.
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  I I feel like superb is a very generous word.
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  What was that Ben Affleck one? What was that I?
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  Mean. Anytime you put Ben Affleck and
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  Matt Damon in the same room, it's it's bound to.
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  It's bound to happen. And then you throw Tom Brady in
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  there. I I will say I I can do without
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  the what? What is that girl's name?
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  Jlo. Aren't.
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  No. I know Jlo.
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  No. Aren't they like twins?
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  Or they're like Tiktok dancers. Charlie Diamelo or whatever her
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  name is, Charlie Dixie Diamelo. Charlie Dixie.
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  Couldn't. Couldn't even give you a guess.
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  The Heart of Dixie, I don't know.
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  Wanna something like that? They they were in the series
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  Jack Harlow main appearance and not to mention they they threw
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  out free iced coffee for folks this morning.
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  Just nag one, yeah? Yeah, I did.
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  Started my week off with a nice iced Duncan shout out from a
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  Code Dunk Kings that was that was that was a big one for me.
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  It's tough. It's tough.
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  I like the couch potato one. Did you see that one for like
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  Pluto, TV or whatever? I did, yeah.
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  That. One was pretty good.
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  I see that one. That was pretty funny.
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  I like that one. A little creative there.
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  Was that the one with Captain Kirk?
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  And who else was in that one? I don't remember.
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  It was one where they were like, it was like a farmer and there's
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  like showing him like working his land or whatever.
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  And instead of potatoes, there was just like people sitting in
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  dirt and they're like have like a whole potato costume and they.
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  Just have TV. In front of him and they're just
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  like watching garbage, like eating popcorn and stuff.
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  And he's just like like as a farmers, like laying the land
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  and working the land and stuff. He's just putting TV's in front.
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  He's like, we've been growing, we've been growing couch
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  potatoes for the last 60 years or whatever.
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  It's funny. It's good.
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  Yeah, on the whole commercials thing.
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  It really started to fade. Well, I'll tell you what
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  happened is it used to be a thing.
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  Where shock value really drew people to certain commercials.
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  But everything is shock value now our our dope as human
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  beings. Our dopamine receptors are fried
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  like we you can't show us anything.
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  You can show people streaking across the TV and we'll be like
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  sweet where are the snacks? You know like you can't There's
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  nothing that you can put up on the TV now where people are
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  gonna be like wow that is incredible.
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  Especially when when the the recipe now for a Super Bowl ad
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  is like in a a celebrity appearance.
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  I saw a tweet where it was like celebrity appearance, A witty
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  joke and a promo code or something.
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  It's like, that's right. That's that's every year, every
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  commercial man. Not even do you have a, do you
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  have a? Halftime show rating for Usher.
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  It was. I mean it was good.
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  I didn't have anything negative to say about it.
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  I'd. I will say I think there was a
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  lot going on with the back background dancers at first.
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  Like usually they're all wearing the same thing.
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  But when he first started they were there was like 30-40
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  different costumes going on behind him.
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  It was it was a lot to process. Yeah.
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  But shout out to my man for the roller, The roller skating,
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  yeah, that's big time. That's big time.
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  That's tough. I get that like, he is a dancer
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  and he was dancing a lot. And like, I get that.
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  Like, it proves that he wasn't lip syncing because he was like
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  only singing like every 10th word of his songs.
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  Did you notice that? Yeah, that was man, who's
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  working drenched, sweating dude, man was putting in the.
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  Work. He's got to be like pushing 60
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  at this point, so. He we looked up last night.
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  He is 45. Jeez, I would have guessed way
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  older. Good for him.
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  Good for him. I thought it was an OK show.
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  I I more singing would have done more for me.
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  But I think like they hit, he hit every song.
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  Have like he ran through his collection.
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  Lil Jon come out, Ludacris come out.
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  I think Fat was Fat Joe out there at one point.
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  Alicia Keys like Solid. Solid.
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  Yeah, millennials were were, were, vibing, that's for sure.
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  Can't say anything or I can't speak for any other generation,
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  but millennials were vibing. Yeah, it's a middle of the road
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  performance. I think it it was good for
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  halftime show. We're not going to remember it
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  15 years from now. Let's talk some baseball.
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  Jose Al Tuve Last week. Yep, Yep.
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  Baseball season. Remember, baseball is back.
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  Baseball now. Now we go.
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  We got next baseball on Jose Al. Baseball on deck.
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  String Training starts now. Jose Al Tuve signed A5 year
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  extension last week. 5 minutes after our episode happens every
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  time. Yeah, love that every time.
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  Well, it was like the next day I think because we record.
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  Oh, we recorded on Mondays. He signed it on Tuesday.
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  So playing a little bit of catch up here, five years, 125 mil,
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  effectively making him an Astro for life.
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  Do we like this move? Was it expected?
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  I didn't expect it. I don't.
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  Did you? Yeah, I you did.
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  I I don't. I didn't see them letting Altuve
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  go anywhere. How old is he?
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  33 so. This takes him to 38.
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  I think just because of his stature, he's got to play like a
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  style of play that doesn't, I don't see, like really fading in
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  his 30s. There may be some pop that
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  starts to go, but like, I just like his tools.
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  I don't maybe a little bit of speed, but like even then he's
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  still an above average speed guy.
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  So like it. I think he's fine. 25 mil a year
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  may hurt at age 3738, but overall, like, it's kind of like
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  a legacy contract. Like, hey, this is what you've
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  provided the organization. You sell out jerseys.
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  You sell out tickets like it's we'll we'll pay ya.
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  Yeah, I don't. It didn't like, surprise me.
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  I don't feel that fired up about it.
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  Can we just can we acknowledge the elephant in the room right
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  now? I.
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  Hate him. That's the elephant.
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  No, the elephant in the room is I don't you say you're it
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  doesn't fire you up. I don't think anything's really
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  getting you fired up right now. You're wiped from the weekend,
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  so let's just let's get that out of the way.
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  Yeah, I was at the Waste Management open yesterday.
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  I'm pretty well, pretty wiped. And the Super Bowl.
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  Right after I I can't even follow you.
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  I laid around and did nothing but eat food yesterday and I'm
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  wiped. Too old for this stuff.
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  Had too much pizza. Yeah.
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  I I I don't know. I I guess it it makes sense.
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  Like it makes sense. I want to continue to hate you.
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  I'm going to continue to hate you.
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  It's easier if you're in the same uniform for me.
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  Sure there's a lot of fans that share that that sentiment.
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  So do you continue to just somehow can keep producing and
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  just doing random stuff that steals awards from people and
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  somehow they sneak into the World Series every year?
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  They're like the chiefs of the MLB.
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  And I'm just, I can't, I can't do it anymore.
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  I can't do it. So.
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  Well, one thing we can say is that this deal guarantees 'cause
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  this is this starts 2025 S This guarantees minimum six years of
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  continued trash can and buzzer jokes, the same recycled content
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  that we've seen for the last three or four years.
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  So that's what we're working with.
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  I I'm over it. I I really AM.
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  I I'm not like I'm not tapping into that I know you're no.
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  No. No, no, no, Yeah, I get, I I
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  feel, yeah, I totally get where you're coming from.
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  But I'm talking about the people that quite literally, verbatim
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  are recycling the same jokes, the same jabs on social media as
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  if we haven't heard them 6000 times to date.
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  Right. I totally get where you're
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  coming from. You're kind of just staying in
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  your. And I think if we're being
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  honest I think a lot of people are like that they've they've
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  since rescinded their public outcry about the whole situation
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  and they're just kind of in their in their quiet corner not
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  liking him from afar And I that's totally OK.
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  But we gotta, we gotta cool it with the with the trash can
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  references. It's it's a little little tired,
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  little tired at this point. I'm excited to see where he gets
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  that like weird two or three weeks of having the yips at
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  second base, You know, I'm talking about every year happens
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  every year and there's something like I like it.
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  It's like a it's like a Chuck knob lock thing where he just
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  forgets how to do stuff. I'm just bitter, I guess.
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  Let's. But who am I if I'm not me?
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  We're gonna, yeah, let's let's try to find something in this
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  list of topics that we've got today that are maybe 11 down.
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  No, no dice on on Jose Altuve or the Super Bowl.
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  So really, two down, No dice. My last thing on that is that
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  they still came out and said that they're wanting to extend
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  Bregman like he is 100%, like they're only seeing him as an
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  Astro. So even with this, yeah, and the
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  hater signing, I would have guessed that they had to choose.
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  You were either gonna get Bregman or Altuve.
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  I didn't realize that they're doubling down, They're saying,
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  and you know, like, you know, Tucker's got to get paid too.
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  I don't know. But it's it's interesting.
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  'Cause you were, Don's taken care of?
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  You were, Don? 'S Altuve is now good.
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  And Verlander has how much left? You got to assume that's they're
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  probably. 2. I feel like it's two.
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  I feel like they're going to structure things a little more
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  back loaded for Bregman while they're carrying Verlander money
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  until it's over. Then you'll see a pickup in
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  salary for Bregman, I think. Vested option 2025, Free agent
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  2026. So two more years.
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  Vested's probably like an innings thing.
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  It's gotta be a. 140 pitch this year.
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  Which, barring a knee injury, is pretty much a slam dunk, Yeah.
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  If you're the Astros, I'm all I'm all about legacy moves and
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  all that. But if you're the Astros, the
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  much, much more wise investment would be Kyle Tucker, no?
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  Yeah, yes. And if they if that's how their
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  the decision goes, where they keep Bregman and Altuve and
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  Tucker moves on. I don't know Tucker's agent but
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  boys are going to get paid. Lefty pop plus defense.
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  He's going to get paid. Maybe he maybe he's already came
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  out and said he's not willing to extend.
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  Maybe he's going to you know maybe that discussion is just
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  the Astros. Know that.
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  Not even thinking about fit positionally or like team needs
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  or anything. Just give me off the top of the
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  Dome. What's a jersey you could see
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  Kyle Tucker playing in? If he chooses not to come back
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  to Houston. With like, no fit, Just like how
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  he looks in a jersey, you're saying?
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  Just just, well, I mean, like a team's gonna need an outfielder.
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  Let's just assume they're gonna need an outfielder.
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  But don't. Don't.
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  Like, think breakdown, Just think vibes here.
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  Just think, vibes. Phillies.
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  Kyle. Tucker.
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  Really. I don't know why.
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  It just makes sense for me. Fitz sandwich someone in between
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  him and Harper as Bryce finishes out the middle of his 30 year
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  contract. Yeah, I like that.
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  Weird, right? Weird how you know, because at
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  that point, I'm assuming Schwarber's moving on.
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  I think Castellanos, probably. It's probably all done at that
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  point, yeah. Yeah, I hate to say it.
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  Philly's. Probably need to shake things
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  up, get a little more athletic. Yeah, they're already looking
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  for ways to, yeah, ship him out. Yeah, yeah, that's AI like that.
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  That's a good pick. Kind of off the cuff there,
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  yeah. Right off the top of the Dome, I
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  like it. Clayton Kershaw moving right
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  along here, signed a one year contract that includes a player
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  option for 2025. He will player option back.
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  Yeah. Wild, right?
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  Yeah, especially with the way the last, what, four to five
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  years worth of contracts for him has gone.
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  Yeah, we'll not be back, at least for the first half.
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  But they're good. They're straight, they're
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  chilling in that rotation. No need to rush this man any
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  more than you have to. Picture perfect scenario for
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  him. And they're talking about Ohtani
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  potentially trying to get back in time for the postseason.
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  Here's what I'm going to say. That would be Dodgers fans out
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  there. I'm tired.
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  I'm tired of you throwing nonsense at my boy Clayton.
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  Shut it down. The man's a Hall of Famer.
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  The man's an absolute legend. The man's getting a statue
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  outside your stadium. Show some respect.
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  Show some respect. I don't want to hear about post
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  season struggles. This man earned his contracts.
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  He's earned his his ability to end his career as a Dodger.
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  So do what you need to do Dodgers to make it work for
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  Clayton. If it means no more giving him
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  post season starts, if it means he comes in the back back end of
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  a bullpen and closes down a game, throws 3 innings, 4.
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  I don't know. I don't know.
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  My man's a Dodger. It's cute.
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  He's from Dallas. We could talk Rangers all we
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  want. Fine, You can.
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  You can be upset. Ranger fans, but Dodger fans,
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  No. This man belongs.
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  He stays. Never.
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  He's never going to Texas. Let's be real.
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  He was never going to Texas. I thought it was a possibility.
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  I hear you about Dodgers fans complaining and calling him Wash
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  and everything. Look, I he'd had.
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  He's coming off of back-to-back years of sub three ER as in fact
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  I want to say sub 25. ER as in in consecutive years
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  close if not sub 25. But look man we saw it last
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  year. The the postseason bug is real
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  with this guy. So.
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  So that at least I I think is warranted, but yeah, I I see
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  both sides of it. I had your legend about the the
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  player option. That's surprising.
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  It is surprising. Would have guessed A1 year
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  vesting option, but I guess with him coming coming back halfway
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  through the year it's like you can't really do that.
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  Sub 2/5 He had 246 in 2023 and A228 in 2022, back-to-back All
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  Star years. Just a little, just.
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  I mean, what are we doing, Dodger fans?
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  Manage this guy. Just let him.
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  Let him get his rest. OK?
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  Let's go full NBA mode. Let him do what he needs to do.
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  How old is he again? And he's like your 35, he's like
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  your 7 starter. So calm down.
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  Yeah. Rough life.
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  Clayton Kershaw coming in as like your spot starter in the
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  second-half of the year. Tough.
• 25:07
  He's gonna be 36 this year he's he turns 36 and give or take a
• 25:12
  month, I'm. Gonna defend my guy.
• 25:20
  That's insane, dude. He's going to be 36 and we've
• 25:22
  been what? Not?
• 25:23
  We people have been throwing the Washed label out there for what
• 25:30
  seems like the better half of a decade.
• 25:34
  Just doesn't get enough respect. Wild don't get no respect.
• 25:40
  Former teammate of Clayton Kershaw, Trevor Bauer, making
• 25:45
  news as of late, specifically on Twitter, seems to be where he
• 25:50
  makes most of his news. He he's been campaigning come
• 25:55
  sort of, dare I say come out of a shell The last week or two
• 26:02
  'cause there for a while he was. He was a little little quiet
• 26:05
  understandably so but as of late has really made a strong push, a
• 26:09
  strong public push to get his his name back out there again
• 26:14
  and get it back on the minds of these front offices about a
• 26:19
  possible option in in their rotation and has been making his
• 26:24
  pitch. He put, he put out a tweet the
• 26:26
  other day it said Blake Snell is going to get hundreds of
• 26:29
  millions of dollars on a multi year deal and he should.
• 26:31
  He deserves it for a team that doesn't want to commit multi
• 26:34
  years, hundreds of millions of dollars or many elite prospects.
• 26:38
  For Cy Young Award winner, they could sign me for a league
• 26:41
  minimum and pay 0 incremental dollars over what they have to
• 26:45
  pay to that roster spot anyway. Just another option for teams
• 26:50
  that want to win and don't want to break the bank.
• 26:54
  You mentioned it last episode. He's been making his rounds on
• 26:57
  the podcasts as I mentioned just campaigning hard on on social
• 27:02
  media and he's made it very clear.
• 27:05
  I don't remember what platform I saw it, but he was all but
• 27:08
  begging, saying just just give me a chance.
• 27:12
  He's saying I I know that I'm capable of of doing this.
• 27:15
  He says I'm I'm still, even after miss time I'm still one of
• 27:19
  the best pitchers on the planet. I I just want an opportunity to
• 27:22
  prove that with a Major League team and as we mentioned
• 27:27
  pitchers and catchers are reporting this week and does not
• 27:30
  have a home. Do we think he finds a home?
• 27:35
  Before Spring training or before Opening Day.
• 27:38
  Let's just say before opening day, I mean he's, I I highly
• 27:42
  doubt he's going to find anything in the next two to
• 27:46
  five, two to four days. I'm going to say no.
• 27:48
  I'm going to say no before before Opening Day.
• 27:52
  Do you? He countersued.
• 27:56
  Like as like a defamation lawsuit, right?
• 28:00
  I I believe so. I think we.
• 28:04
  Talked about. That on here, that's a good
• 28:09
  question. Cause follow me here, I've
• 28:12
  watched Suits, I know what I'm talking about.
• 28:14
  Exactly he by the way, Mike and Harvey made an appearance on the
• 28:20
  Super Bowl commercial. I did see that.
• 28:21
  That was big. Fan.
• 28:22
  Big fan. That was cool.
• 28:24
  That was cool. That was cool.
• 28:26
  Anyway, continue. If that case is not closed, if
• 28:32
  the defamation lawsuit has not been settled, this media tour
• 28:41
  that he's on, 'cause think about how he's been.
• 28:47
  He's never really gone around and done stuff.
• 28:52
  He's got his channel and he wants his fans to watch but
• 28:57
  rarely as he's like making rounds, dude like going on
• 29:00
  you're talking like media on like the media rounds and stuff
• 29:02
  has nothing to do, you know what I'm saying?
• 29:04
  So like he's going around, it's not just baseball podcasts, he's
• 29:09
  going on that like Pat, Bev, David or whatever that the
• 29:14
  financial guy he does podcasts, he's going all over the place.
• 29:18
  So it's not just baseball related.
• 29:20
  I think in my mind, if this settlement is not closed, if he
• 29:25
  if that's still going, this is just more evidence because he's
• 29:30
  coming out and saying I will, I will literally play for League
• 29:36
  minimum anywhere you want. You name it, I'll do it.
• 29:42
  If he still can't get that, that is literally all the evidence
• 29:47
  you need for proof of defamation.
• 29:50
  You've destroyed my character. That's what he's saying to this
• 29:55
  girl. You've destroyed my character to
• 29:57
  the point where I can't even do my job.
• 30:01
  Whether you like Trevor Bauer or not is a different story.
• 30:03
  I'm not particularly a huge fan of him.
• 30:05
  I know you're not either. It's just it's not my he's not
• 30:08
  my cup of tea of of personality. But I can respect the fact that
• 30:16
  from what? From what Law is saying, he was
• 30:20
  innocent and now he can't do his job anymore.
• 30:27
  This is the ultimate definition of defamation, and maybe it's a
• 30:35
  little bit of that as well. Yeah, I'm sure he wants back.
• 30:38
  I'm sure he wants to play. Duh.
• 30:40
  But this could also be a part of it too.
• 30:43
  Proving that say I'm going everywhere.
• 30:45
  I'm telling everyone I'm willing to play for a bag of chips and I
• 30:49
  still can't get a job because of what occurred.
• 30:54
  So back in October I'm I'm reading cuz it I little foggy on
• 31:02
  the details here so I had to had to pull it up back in October
• 31:06
  which I I I feel like I remember talking about this on here.
• 31:10
  I just don't remember to what extent we covered it because I
• 31:13
  think some details are still coming out.
• 31:15
  But it says here that Bauer sued a San Diego woman by the name of
• 31:21
  Lindsay Hill for defamation. She countersued for assault and
• 31:25
  sexual battery. It says neither side or no.
• 31:30
  It says their settlements calls for no exchange of money between
• 31:35
  the parties, but the woman will receive a separate $300,000
• 31:40
  payout from insurance her attorney.
• 31:44
  So they have settled the legal dispute I think is was your
• 31:50
  original question. Again, and I said it at the
• 31:56
  beginning of the episode, I mean say what you will about Bauer,
• 31:59
  be he at the very minimum even with being out last year and not
• 32:03
  being in the bigs like or even you know, half a year before
• 32:07
  that as well. I I'm fully confident, as much
• 32:11
  as I'm not a huge fan of them, I'm fully confident he can step
• 32:15
  in and give you 140 a 150 innings and be at the back end
• 32:19
  of a rotation that he could wake up and do that he could wake up
• 32:25
  and do that. So that the risk outside of like
• 32:28
  a a public relations standpoint is very low.
• 32:33
  It's whether you want to deal with the PR stuff, which is the
• 32:36
  obvious wall, or block for pretty much all these teams.
• 32:41
  And I think a lot of these teams realize that to like oh league a
• 32:46
  minimum for this guy, sign me up.
• 32:49
  But you can't, because although that risk is essentially non
• 32:58
  existent, the risk that does come into play is what you're
• 33:02
  talking about, is the the circus that comes with it in terms of
• 33:06
  public relations and with as negative of a light that he was
• 33:13
  under regardless, regardless the outcome.
• 33:17
  There were a lot of takes thrown around by fans, by team or by
• 33:21
  teammates, by maybe even league officials.
• 33:26
  If I recall, just everybody was throwing out their take on the
• 33:30
  situation and it brought a lot of negative PR to this guy.
• 33:37
  And I even despite making the media rounds like you were
• 33:40
  talking about, I don't think he's been able to shake that.
• 33:43
  And I just don't think these teams want to put up with it as
• 33:46
  as much as I think the majority of them recognize how much of
• 33:51
  value he could potentially provide their team.
• 33:55
  Which is tough. Which is tough cause again,
• 33:59
  whether you're like we're not according to our judicial
• 34:03
  system, he is innocent and that's that's tough.
• 34:08
  And this isn't the first time that we've seen guys with these
• 34:12
  types of allegations come back and pitch.
• 34:14
  There's precedent. Again, I've watched suits.
• 34:18
  I know these words, there's precedent.
• 34:20
  You know what I mean? Like, you've seen guys come
• 34:21
  back, seen guys come back on this team, seen guys come back
• 34:25
  on a lot of different teams that have had this dark cloud of off
• 34:31
  the field difficulties and be able to overcome it.
• 34:35
  Winning solves a lot, right? So there's just, I I don't know,
• 34:40
  man. Like it's not like they need
• 34:42
  them, but like if you were to throw them on the Astros, this
• 34:45
  team is already hated around the league and you're already
• 34:50
  getting booed. Like, why not?
• 34:53
  You know what I mean? Add them into the rotation, keep
• 34:55
  winning and just turn into the skid.
• 34:58
  Be hated, make it motivate you. I don't know.
• 35:04
  It's just it's it's it's tough. I I get it.
• 35:08
  I don't like him. But it is tough to see that,
• 35:11
  like other players have been able to overcome this and step
• 35:13
  right back into playing. But because of the name and the
• 35:18
  magnitude of stardom that he had when it happened, that's hurting
• 35:22
  him. It's pretty weird.
• 35:25
  This whole thing's weird. I assuming we have not seen the
• 35:31
  last of Trevor Bauer in Major League Baseball.
• 35:35
  I think it's almost inevitable that you're going to see a team
• 35:38
  who maybe at this current point in time is taking the moral High
• 35:44
  Road again, regardless, regardless of what the the legal
• 35:50
  outcome was there. I think the reason these teams
• 35:53
  are posturing the way that they are is to to make, to give off
• 35:56
  the appearance that they're taking the moral high roads.
• 35:58
  And even though he was innocent at a legal level, we don't want
• 36:04
  to associate with somebody with this character, yadda yadda
• 36:07
  yadda. But I think it's inevitable that
• 36:11
  a team is going to get desperate and they're going to, they're
• 36:15
  going to push that to the side and say, yeah, morals, ethics,
• 36:20
  we didn't really care about those anyway.
• 36:22
  Who are we really kidding? And they're going to go pick
• 36:23
  this guy up and then he's going to go out and do his thing.
• 36:26
  And the the the organization is going to forget all about
• 36:31
  everything that that he brought with him.
• 36:34
  Which again, it's it's really foggy, it's really, there's a
• 36:39
  lot of Gray area. It's really, it's a very
• 36:41
  confusing situation. But I just think that that's
• 36:45
  gonna be the end result that we're gonna be faced with.
• 36:48
  I I I understand both sides. I really genuinely do.
• 36:52
  And if if you're a dad bringing your eight-year old son to a
• 36:56
  ballpark and he steps onto the mound and the entire stadium is
• 37:00
  booing him and that eight-year old turns and looks at you and
• 37:03
  says why are they booing him? Dad, you have to have that
• 37:06
  conversation. And I'm sure there's plenty of
• 37:08
  organizations that are saying we don't want that.
• 37:11
  And I understand, I genuinely do.
• 37:15
  But I do understand his side of it as well.
• 37:18
  And I don't know if there is a right or wrong answer to this,
• 37:20
  but maybe there is a team where the the fandom support or the
• 37:27
  immediate success that they may achieve could somewhat wash out
• 37:36
  the stink that he comes with. Because remember, look, aside
• 37:46
  from from this case that we're talking about or the suit or
• 37:50
  whatever that you have to remember, he came that before
• 37:53
  this even happened, there was a lot of other crap that he was
• 37:56
  that he was involved with. Not maybe legally, but just.
• 38:02
  Give me something with this with his hand getting cut.
• 38:05
  Yeah, the drama that just constantly followed him that was
• 38:09
  mostly self created. I'm not gonna sit here and
• 38:12
  pretend like it was anybody else's fault, but I think you
• 38:17
  you take all these things you factor in all of these other
• 38:21
  situations that he's been caught up in.
• 38:23
  And I don't know. I just think I I think it makes
• 38:27
  sense why he still is without a home right now.
• 38:30
  But like I said I think I think somebody will get desperate and
• 38:32
  come calling. That's that's my gut Speaking of
• 38:39
  coming. Hang on.
• 38:42
  Oh sorry. I thought I got AI.
• 38:44
  Thought I got a update. Say what?
• 38:46
  Nothing. No, I said.
• 38:47
  Speaking of coming and calling. Vegas Mayor said no thanks.
• 38:54
  You can keep your you can keep your A's in Oakland.
• 38:57
  We're good. We'll pass.
• 39:02
  Yeah. Which just adds a whole nother
• 39:05
  layer to this what seemed inevitable, A's moved to Vegas.
• 39:15
  She what's her name? Carolyn Goodman, She said.
• 39:23
  I've lived in this town six years and so I know the town
• 39:25
  like the back of my hand. I personally think they've got
• 39:28
  to figure out a way to stay in Oakland and make their dream
• 39:31
  come true. I love the little Disney twist
• 39:34
  there at the end, but she is all but saying we're good.
• 39:39
  We'll pass. Thanks, Beno.
• 39:44
  Thanks. I'm so over this.
• 39:48
  Just go somewhere. I don't care.
• 39:50
  Go somewhere else then to make this happen.
• 39:53
  Oakland isn't working. All 1200 fans that are fighting
• 39:59
  for it can relax. I don't know.
• 40:03
  We were just, we just FaceTime. One of our listeners the other
• 40:07
  day and he's from Utah and he's like truly in his core, believes
• 40:13
  that the A's are going to Salt Lake City.
• 40:19
  I can't see it. I don't.
• 40:21
  I don't see it. But I at this point I could see
• 40:24
  it over Vegas. I mean, it seems like this is
• 40:28
  really trying to be shoved along and it's not panning out.
• 40:33
  I I. Mean.
• 40:35
  There's so many things to read in between the lines here.
• 40:38
  Is it maybe because it's still attached to an owner that
• 40:41
  refuses to spend? You can't go to Vegas and not
• 40:45
  spend, you know what I mean? There's no other like there was
• 40:49
  a stink around the Davis family for the Raiders.
• 40:52
  Duh. For generations.
• 40:54
  Those guys are nuts. But they spend money and they're
• 40:57
  entertaining. Days are boring and this owner
• 41:01
  does nothing. So don't come to my city and
• 41:04
  provide zero. He's got to sell.
• 41:10
  There's no other way around this.
• 41:12
  You got to sell. Get out your own city doesn't.
• 41:16
  I mean, your own city. Your fans are fighting you.
• 41:19
  Your own city doesn't want you. A new city doesn't want you.
• 41:22
  You're the common denominator. Sell the team.
• 41:26
  Get out. Major League Baseball needs to
• 41:28
  take over this team and move it wherever you need to move it.
• 41:31
  But take over 'cause this is embarrassing.
• 41:35
  It's honestly embarrassing. I don't know why this is coming
• 41:44
  out now. Like, I don't know if this mayor
• 41:47
  has been outspoken prior to this point, prior to this quote that
• 41:51
  dropped. When did it drop?
• 41:56
  Like late, late last week I. Mean just for the weekend?
• 42:00
  Super Bowl in Vegas? It's all eyes on Vegas, you
• 42:02
  know? No, no.
• 42:03
  No, I mean, I I get it. But I'm saying why?
• 42:07
  Why are we now hearing these types of things, especially from
• 42:12
  people that you would just assume are in a position of
• 42:15
  support for a move like this if the mayor is going, Yeah, I
• 42:22
  know, I know the whole perceived scenario here is that you're
• 42:29
  closing up shop in Oakland and coming here, but I I never
• 42:34
  agreed to this. Then why were we so quick to
• 42:42
  wrap up the Oakland A's story? Like, why?
• 42:47
  Why are we just shutting that down now?
• 42:48
  Because as of right now, I mean, not that the Vegas mayor has
• 42:53
  much pull in this regard, but like if Vegas doesn't want you,
• 42:58
  you don't have a home beyond the the lease of the Coliseum,
• 43:02
  you're you're in a tight spot. You're in a real tight spot.
• 43:06
  Sell. You're going to lose money, but
• 43:10
  sell. I don't know when he bought it
• 43:12
  or how much for, but it's going to get to the point where the
• 43:16
  league needs to step in and take over, dude.
• 43:19
  Like this is you look at the race, you know what I mean?
• 43:24
  Like everyone around the league, every other fan base, has just
• 43:26
  absolutely trashed the trop for, right?
• 43:29
  Or rightfully so. But they're doing different
• 43:34
  things. And you see an effort and you
• 43:36
  see competitiveness and you see a way to build an organization,
• 43:42
  a way to build a franchise. To be fair, it's apples and
• 43:44
  oranges because of how old the A's are.
• 43:46
  But at the same time, you're seeing effort.
• 43:52
  And now look, right now there's plenty of conversations about
• 43:56
  moving stadiums and doing a new location, making it easier for
• 43:59
  it. Like, this is it you?
• 44:01
  You do this for a few years and you prove that you can do what
• 44:05
  you need to do. The A's are doing nothing.
• 44:07
  The A's are doing nothing. You're not trying to reinvent
• 44:11
  the wheel in any way. The the the A's need to take the
• 44:15
  Ray's approach and like invest in yourself, try to do it in a
• 44:20
  budgetary way. And you did it for a flash in
• 44:24
  the pan with Billy Beane, and there's a movie made about it,
• 44:27
  but outside of that, there's nothing else going on.
• 44:33
  We're looking at 2 decades later.
• 44:35
  From that, by the way. And you get freaking All Stars
• 44:41
  that you don't pay. You trade for bags of chips and
• 44:47
  rinse, repeat. It's tough, dude.
• 44:54
  It's tough. You see other teams making
• 44:57
  efforts. I just don't.
• 45:00
  I'm. I'm all done.
• 45:02
  Dissolve it. I'm done with the A's.
• 45:04
  Change your name, Move cities. I don't care, but this owner's
• 45:08
  got to go. I saw Portland is making a push.
• 45:18
  They've been in the conversation for a while, but.
• 45:22
  Portland. Nashville.
• 45:23
  Charlotte I'm assuming or all I actually I just conversation.
• 45:28
  Yeah, I just put out a post today.
• 45:29
  Actually, it's a map. It's on Facebook showing all of
• 45:35
  the just the the vast nothingness that is the United
• 45:45
  States when it comes to not having a Major League team.
• 45:49
  Yeah, I mean it. You've got your hot spots at all
• 45:50
  your various cities, but 90% of the United States does not have
• 45:56
  a team, obviously. But it's just crazy when you see
• 46:00
  a a visualization of where Major League Baseball exists, where it
• 46:04
  doesn't exist and you're you just look around the map and
• 46:07
  you're like I I could see a fit there.
• 46:09
  I could see a fit there. I mean North Carolina could use
• 46:13
  a team. Nashville or you know, Tennessee
• 46:15
  could use a team. Portland was another one.
• 46:19
  I just feel like any of these fits are better than Oakland.
• 46:22
  At the end of the day, any of these fits, even Vegas with as
• 46:26
  tumultuous of a relationship as that could end up being,
• 46:29
  probably is still still a better fit than Oakland.
• 46:32
  It's just it's it's reached its end.
• 46:36
  But they have to, they have to figure this out and they have to
• 46:38
  do it in a way in which the city that's receiving them is
• 46:44
  actually like on board with it. And I think it goes back to your
• 46:46
  point of selling the team, because I I'm sure if I'm a
• 46:50
  city, I'm not wanting A-Team like you said, that's just going
• 46:52
  to we continued garbage. It's weird that you have cities
• 46:57
  that are like, hey, we'll take you and you're just, you're not,
• 47:00
  you're not. It's not getting approved.
• 47:03
  They're passed along. It's like Vegas.
• 47:06
  Yeah, I mean Fish. I don't know.
• 47:09
  I don't know the guy from Adam, but it seems like Fisher is
• 47:12
  looking for the ultimate cash grab here.
• 47:14
  He's going all Vegas. Sign me up and.
• 47:19
  That's just he think he sells the second the the city says yes
• 47:23
  and just has that as like a a bargaining chip, basically.
• 47:33
  Yeah, 'cause I mean, as it stands right now, you're getting
• 47:37
  Jack for this team. So like, yeah, spruce it up a
• 47:42
  little bit, do some, do some housekeeping, yeah, get the
• 47:47
  stock up a little bit and then jump ship.
• 47:50
  Just no, don't even jump. Don't even bother going anywhere
• 47:53
  else. Don't bother acquiring another
• 47:54
  team or going even to another sport.
• 47:57
  Just go, just retire, be done. Because you are clearly not fit
• 48:03
  to do this type of work. So go, go wherever you're going
• 48:08
  to go. Hit the slots in Vegas, but stay
• 48:12
  away from the baseball field. That's all I got to say.
• 48:15
  Close the book here. Just a few items Billy Eppler
• 48:21
  placed on the ineligible lists for violation of IL rules, which
• 48:25
  I think is hilarious because. I think every team does this.
• 48:28
  What team isn't doing this? The Phantom IL has been a thing.
• 48:34
  It's going to continue to be a thing.
• 48:35
  But I guess we're just using oh Billy as the scapegoat here,
• 48:39
  because. Because they're not in it for
• 48:41
  2024. That's true.
• 48:44
  Everyone knows, Self admitted. Ray's extend Kevin Cash, a move
• 48:52
  that Nate has seen coming down the pipe for years.
• 48:59
  Big Kevin Cash guy he is. Was it coming into this year
• 49:06
  that you predicted that Cash would be gone after this year, I
• 49:10
  think, or this past 2023? I should say, yeah.
• 49:13
  I'll take this episode last year, yeah.
• 49:18
  So. There's gonna be 1 hot take
• 49:20
  that's just it's always nails. And then there's one hot take
• 49:22
  where you can probably put your money on the opposite happening.
• 49:27
  That's how I roll, baby. That's how I do it.
• 49:29
  That's fair. You play in the odds.
• 49:30
  I like it. Yeah.
• 49:31
  Yeah, Flip of the coin when it comes.
• 49:33
  To name that was a + 3500 move. I put some money on it.
• 49:37
  It didn't pay. Now that's OK.
• 49:43
  Whatever. It was admirable.
• 49:45
  It was admirable. I can do that.
• 49:49
  Red Sox will have a Netflix series made after their 2024
• 49:54
  campaign, or surrounding their 2024 campaign to be released in
• 50:01
  2025. It It's either going to go one
• 50:05
  or two ways. This is going to be the the
• 50:08
  magical of magical runs, or it's going to be an entire series of
• 50:15
  the most depressing, heated, argumentative, toxic baseball
• 50:22
  you've ever seen. That's, yeah, that's really
• 50:26
  where we're at. It's there's not going to be
• 50:28
  much of A middle ground. It's going to be one of those
• 50:30
  two things, just a wild selection for your first team to
• 50:38
  do that as. Yeah, as far as.
• 50:40
  Netflix goes support the decision.
• 50:43
  My question, the selection of team I will still watch.
• 50:51
  I think this is great. I think it's fantastic for the
• 50:55
  game of baseball. I think this is exactly what
• 50:58
  we've been asking for for a long time.
• 51:00
  You're seeing these behind the scenes.
• 51:02
  We've seen it, you know, Hard Knocks and stuff for football
• 51:04
  for years, decades now you're starting to just see other
• 51:07
  sports get into it. So with full swing and getting
• 51:11
  you know the behind the scenes in in golf, the F1 series and
• 51:14
  behind the scenes in that, NASCAR I think has a similar one
• 51:19
  that's you're getting these behind the scenes, raw
• 51:23
  documentary style things. I'm a huge fan of them.
• 51:26
  I love them. I'm excited for it.
• 51:31
  I think it is interesting to choose A-Team.
• 51:33
  That's not in a great position right now, but but either way I
• 51:40
  I I think it's good for baseball.
• 51:42
  I mean it's it's very possible that that's they knew that going
• 51:45
  into it they they knew like this is gonna be a dumps this is
• 51:49
  gonna be a dumpster fire let's let's get it on camera.
• 51:52
  Because the other thing too, is the Red Sox aren't gonna have
• 51:54
  final say over the the the content that goes into this.
• 52:00
  Like, they're not gonna if if there's a if there are Gatorade
• 52:05
  coolers thrown in the clubhouse after a random June game where
• 52:10
  the Yankees blow em out 63 to 2. The Red Sox can't be like, yeah,
• 52:15
  we need to, we need to take that out.
• 52:17
  Netflix. Like, go kick rocks.
• 52:21
  Also, find a smaller clubhouse for a Netflix crew to come in
• 52:24
  with cameras. How?
• 52:28
  Where Where you gonna? You'd have three people that are
• 52:30
  allowed to work this the entire documentary, 'cause there's no
• 52:33
  room for anyone else. A lot of questionable decisions
• 52:35
  went into this. And Speaking of the Red Sox
• 52:39
  closing or closing the book segment here, Corey Kluber,
• 52:43
  Opening Day starter for the 2023 Red Sox, is calling it a career
• 52:48
  that's got like, I can't imagine that scenario happening too many
• 52:52
  times, right? The guy is your Opening Day
• 52:55
  starter and then at the end of the season retires.
• 52:58
  That's the state of the Red Sox. That's what that's that's the
• 53:02
  kind of news that that we're making.
• 53:04
  That's where we're at. Come on in.
• 53:08
  The water's fine. Yeah, Nice career, though.
• 53:11
  Nice career. Corey Kluber, I The the very
• 53:14
  good, very good stretch of being a top five pitcher in baseball
• 53:19
  for two or three years. I just he didn't age very well
• 53:25
  and he didn't recreate his craft in any way, but just a tough
• 53:33
  last three or four years of a career.
• 53:36
  But during his peak during his prime, it'd be his fun baseball
• 53:39
  to watch those the Cy Young Cleveland days.
• 53:45
  Good, very good baseball. I think he probably would have
• 53:49
  gotten more love if if the Indians at that time were
• 53:51
  better, if they just got over the hump a little bit more.
• 53:58
  There's a lot of people on social media outing themselves
• 54:02
  in regards to how or the amount of baseball that they watch or
• 54:07
  that they're aware of if they if it was before their time.
• 54:10
  Because I think it was Heyman put out a tweet and he he made
• 54:15
  reference to him as clue bot and all the people in the replies
• 54:18
  are going. You're not just going for a typo
• 54:22
  again. Yeah, there's you going.
• 54:24
  We're not just going to pretend like you didn't just say Clue
• 54:27
  bot. And then they put like, the
• 54:28
  clown emojis and like the crying, laughing emojis and I'm
• 54:32
  like, oh boy, and credit credit to the people that came to the
• 54:36
  defensive Heyman. They're like.
• 54:39
  The baseball fans. You.
• 54:40
  You. Do know that's like his
• 54:43
  nickname. They were.
• 54:43
  Screenshot in the Baseball Reference bio section and all
• 54:49
  these people just really outing themselves as to how little they
• 54:52
  know about some of these guys. But you mentioned a great
• 54:56
  career. It must must have been nice.
• 54:58
  I didn't really get to witness much of it.
• 54:59
  I I mean, we got the, we got the crumbs of it in regards to you
• 55:06
  got. A no hitter with the Yankees,
• 55:07
  so. Swansong.
• 55:09
  Take that. Well, no, I'm as, as you know,
• 55:13
  I'm not a Yankees guy. So I'm I'm talking like first
• 55:15
  hand. Yeah, you you got real the real
• 55:19
  tough end there. We got the true crumbs.
• 55:24
  That about does it for closing the book.
• 55:26
  Wanted to wrap up here with our with continuing our Unbreakables
• 55:31
  record mini series here today. We've got Hack Wilson, mentioned
• 55:40
  him on the last episode, alluded to it a little bit the most RBI
• 55:45
  in a season all the time. I think I I may have said it on
• 55:54
  here, but do you remember? Do you do you do you know how
• 55:56
  many it was? I don't, I want to say like 183,
• 56:01
  but I feel like that's low. 191 And so I've got some career
• 56:08
  numbers here for you, but I got a little bit of a story, Tom, I
• 56:11
  I I was reading in my research, I read this article from the
• 56:15
  Guardian that I just had to share because what year was
• 56:20
  this? This would have been 1930.
• 56:24
  OK. 1930, so career Hall of Famer.
• 56:28
  He was voted in by the Veterans Committee in 1979.
• 56:32
  I believe he passed away in like the 40s.
• 56:34
  So it was it was a while before he he got the honor.
• 56:40
  It was an MVP. Played twelve seasons,
• 56:42
  accumulated a career WAR of 38.7.
• 56:45
  Had 1461 hits, 244 home runs. He hit three O 7, had 1063 RB is
• 56:53
  had an OPS of 940 and an OPS plus of 144.
• 56:59
  So little bit of a understand in in acquiring these numbers, but
• 57:07
  rather impactful. But let me just read this bit
• 57:11
  from the Guardian. Bear with me it I I couldn't
• 57:16
  stop reading as I was reading this this article.
• 57:20
  Born in Pennsylvania steel country, his parents were
• 57:23
  Alcoholics and Hack followed suit.
• 57:24
  He always insisted he never took to the field while drunk while
• 57:28
  hungover. That was a different matter.
• 57:31
  I never took a drink in my life on the day of a game after 11:00
• 57:35
  in the morning, he once said for Clifton Blue, Parker, author of
• 57:39
  a fine biography of Wilson, fouled the way he was, quote the
• 57:43
  roaring 20s epitome of a baseball player primed for an
• 57:47
  age of American excess. Hack's mother died from a burst
• 57:50
  of Pennix when he was 7. He left school at age 16 and
• 57:55
  worked 12 hour days at a print works, then signed for the minor
• 57:59
  league Martinsburg Blue Sox in West Virginia, suffered a broken
• 58:03
  leg on the opening day of his first professional season, which
• 58:06
  prompted a move from catcher to the outfield.
• 58:08
  After his recovery, Wilson worked as a label stitcher in a
• 58:11
  stock factory in the offseason and married at 23 to Virginia
• 58:17
  Riddleberger, A divorcee or divorcee for of 12 years, his
• 58:22
  senior. So after the old, after the
• 58:25
  older woman hack, hack, Hack likes I'm old, Wilson made his
• 58:32
  Major League debut with the New York Giants in 1923, acquired
• 58:36
  his moniker. His real name was Lewis, and
• 58:38
  drew comparisons with a slugger across town named Babe Ruth in
• 58:42
  appearance, batting prowess and relish for extracurricular
• 58:45
  activities. His unusual physique fascinated
• 58:48
  contemporary sports writers, while more recent analysts have
• 58:52
  speculated that it was caused by fetal alcohol syndrome.
• 58:56
  Hack was only 5 feet 6 inches tall, but heavy, with a large
• 59:00
  head, tiny feet, and small arms and legs.
• 59:03
  The baseball writer Lee Allen wrote in 1961 that Wilson was a
• 59:07
  comic figure, a pudgy Goliath, a gorilla of a man with a red face
• 59:12
  who looked like a sawed off Babe Ruth.
• 59:15
  Acquired by the Cubs in the late in late 1925, he flourished in
• 59:19
  the bedlam of Prohibition era Chicago, where Parker wrote he
• 59:23
  was, quote on friendly terms with Al Capone.
• 59:27
  He was once arrested when police raided A Speakeasy.
• 59:30
  The story goes that he tried to escape via a window but got
• 59:33
  stuck halfway through. Standing in a line a few days
• 59:37
  later, Parker recounted, he got into a shoving match with two
• 59:40
  policemen charged with disorderly conduct.
• 59:42
  He was taken to the police station where the captain, a
• 59:45
  baseball fan, dropped the charges and actually ordered the
• 59:48
  officers to apologize. Almost done here.
• 59:52
  An early scouting report is said to have described Hack as
• 59:55
  possessing, quote homicidal tendencies.
• 59:57
  Parker wrote that Wilson once drunkenly trashed a hotel room
• 1:00:00
  in Boston and shoved an umpire. He punched 1 Cincinnati Reds
• 1:00:04
  pitcher during a game and knocked out another at a train
• 1:00:07
  station later that night. The Chicago Tribune reported
• 1:00:10
  that during a game at Wrigley Field in 1928, Wilson lunged
• 1:00:14
  into the stands and choked the hell quote.
• 1:00:16
  Choked the hell out of a Heckler.
• 1:00:18
  Wilson was fined $100 by the National League and the Fan, a
• 1:00:22
  milkman, sued Hack and the Cubs for $50,000.
• 1:00:28
  I'm just gonna let that let that sink in for a little bit.
• 1:00:31
  Just that was a lot to process. The amount of Nuggets in there.
• 1:00:39
  I mean, what a story time Hack Wilson I I'm glad I found.
• 1:00:45
  I came across this article because I had no idea.
• 1:00:48
  I was like, wow, 191 RB is in the season.
• 1:00:50
  That's impressive good for Hack. Well, let's do a little bit of a
• 1:00:55
  deep dive into Hack's life and we find out that Hack.
• 1:00:59
  And this man made his way into the Hall of Fame.
• 1:01:02
  I I think the the voters came across this article and we're
• 1:01:06
  like vote em in, vote em in, forget the numbers.
• 1:01:12
  Bro, what did I what did I just hear?
• 1:01:17
  It's it's a heck of a it's a heck of a piece.
• 1:01:20
  Hold on Hack Wilson. If you guys wanna read it, just
• 1:01:25
  type in. Hack Will.
• 1:01:26
  Yeah, just type in Hack Wilson, The Guardian.
• 1:01:28
  And it should be the top article that comes up.
• 1:01:30
  Just a an insane read. So we have guys that that may be
• 1:01:38
  a little too demonstrative with their political views, that
• 1:01:43
  can't get into the hall, but this guy gets in.
• 1:01:48
  This man wreaked havoc. Goodness.
• 1:01:55
  I mean he was on friendly terms with Al Capone and we're going
• 1:01:58
  to talk about a character clause.
• 1:02:02
  I mean come on man. Always with a murderer and a
• 1:02:06
  just and a thief. Just a continued just continued
• 1:02:11
  proof that the the committee the Hall of Fame as a whole is
• 1:02:17
  becoming more and more of a joke as we come across information
• 1:02:20
  like this. Oh, Hack 191 RB is.
• 1:02:27
  As with a lot of these records that we've we've researched,
• 1:02:33
  there was a little bit of Gray area in terms of the correct
• 1:02:36
  number that was attributed to him.
• 1:02:39
  It said he was originally credited with 190, but a it says
• 1:02:44
  a quote rather tardy review determined that an RBI should
• 1:02:48
  have gone to Hack. It was actually wrongly given at
• 1:02:51
  the time to a teammate and his tally was boosted to 191 in
• 1:02:54
  1999. Yeah, I mean, I I want to know
• 1:02:59
  what the scorekeepers were doing back then.
• 1:03:02
  I want to know how many errors were listed as hits.
• 1:03:06
  That's what I'm saying, man. The record books are not.
• 1:03:09
  When the, you know, like when did the rule come of like a
• 1:03:13
  double play doesn't count as an RBI, You know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:16
  Like I I just, I feel like there's a lot of things that
• 1:03:19
  maybe adjusted either way. I mean, even if we're off a
• 1:03:23
  little bit, he's probably still in the in like the 170 range,
• 1:03:28
  which is absurd. But yeah, dude, there's there's
• 1:03:32
  a lot of Gray area with some of these stats that's like it's not
• 1:03:35
  just a home run these this, the RBI has been adjusted multiple
• 1:03:39
  times. So interesting.
• 1:03:44
  Not to mention, wasn't it? Wasn't it the what was that rule
• 1:03:49
  the the ground rule? Double S counted as home runs or
• 1:03:52
  something? Or like if the ball bounced over
• 1:03:54
  the fence, it was a home run or back on Babe the Babe's Day.
• 1:03:58
  Something weird like that. So that, I mean that's kind of
• 1:04:01
  what we're working with here. To put it into perspective, Hank
• 1:04:04
  Aaron, the all time leader in RB is averaged just under 100 for
• 1:04:08
  his career. His highest single season total
• 1:04:10
  was 130. Two.
• 1:04:14
  I remember when we were kids we watched a lot of one 30s and one
• 1:04:18
  40s like a good amount of time and the MVP was always in the
• 1:04:23
  above. Like 1/21/90 is different.
• 1:04:28
  Only nine times in the entire history of baseball has someone
• 1:04:31
  finished a season with 170 or more, and that hasn't happened
• 1:04:34
  since 193821 times we've seen 160 RB is.
• 1:04:39
  That hasn't happened. Or no, that's only happened
• 1:04:42
  twice since the 1930s. A 150 RB is.
• 1:04:48
  I've only happened an additional 7 times since the 1940s.
• 1:04:54
  But here's the thing though, if you look at his 1930s season,
• 1:04:59
  you probably assume like, oh, a guy had like 112 home runs or
• 1:05:02
  something. He had 56.
• 1:05:06
  It's pretty good for a stubby little guy.
• 1:05:09
  Wow, that random number that I threw out I think is exactly
• 1:05:11
  twice the number he actually had, right?
• 1:05:13
  56 * 212. Crazy.
• 1:05:16
  Look at that. Good for you.
• 1:05:18
  Insane. He, he hit 35656 home runs, 208
• 1:05:25
  hits and 100 and five walks. So it's not like he's just
• 1:05:30
  putting up these numbers aside from the RBI, of course.
• 1:05:32
  It's not like he's putting up these numbers that are just
• 1:05:36
  gaudy and unattainable, like that's that's very doable.
• 1:05:43
  I mean, that's AMVP season for sure.
• 1:05:45
  But I mean those numbers individually are very
• 1:05:48
  attainable. But it's it's a matter, as we've
• 1:05:53
  acknowledged, it's a matter of who he has in front of him.
• 1:05:57
  And he from all accounts had guys that, yeah, right here it
• 1:06:03
  says the guy setting the table for for Hack Kiki Coiler, Woody
• 1:06:12
  English and Riggs Stevenson for sure.
• 1:06:16
  Yeah, of course. They all had OB PS of over 430.
• 1:06:25
  OK. So that right there is your
• 1:06:29
  explanation this as to how he reached 100 and what was it 191?
• 1:06:36
  Bro, the description of this man was entirely just over the top.
• 1:06:41
  I looked up. I'm looking at pictures right
• 1:06:43
  now. It's like it's not even that
• 1:06:49
  bad. Like he he doesn't even look
• 1:06:56
  that bad. Of I mean, he's a yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:59
  He's got a big head for sure. I mean he it's a very unique
• 1:07:03
  build. I'll I'll give him that.
• 1:07:04
  He was only 5-6 and to read through the quote again he was
• 1:07:09
  described as quote a pudgy Goliath, a gorilla of a man with
• 1:07:13
  a red face who looked like a sawed off Babe Ruth.
• 1:07:19
  That's insane. You're not saying that to his
• 1:07:21
  face when he's alive. That's what I'm.
• 1:07:22
  Saying to call him this man will.
• 1:07:26
  Break you a sawed off babe? Yeah, look up, pictures a sawed
• 1:07:31
  off Babe Ruth. You're not saying that right
• 1:07:33
  There is the 1930s edition of a keyboard Warrior.
• 1:07:38
  Like you're not saying that to his face.
• 1:07:41
  No. That writer back in 1930 had a
• 1:07:44
  little bit a little bit of Twitter fingers going on like
• 1:07:47
  chill. Yeah, being stuck in a window
• 1:07:50
  running from the cops is just a sprinkle of a detail on that.
• 1:07:56
  That that biography. That's absurd.
• 1:08:00
  This whole thing, this man is just different.
• 1:08:03
  I've never, I've never heard of anything like this.
• 1:08:07
  Then why? Why have we not seen a movie?
• 1:08:10
  That's what I want to know. And why is Danny DeVito playing
• 1:08:13
  him? I.
• 1:08:14
  Need to find a book on this guy, Dude.
• 1:08:17
  I read this article and I was like, I just want to.
• 1:08:20
  I don't even want to record the episode.
• 1:08:22
  I just want to go read about Hack Wilson's life.
• 1:08:25
  I mean that that those pair, those few paragraphs already,
• 1:08:28
  that's like a full on. You're right.
• 1:08:30
  That's a full on movie script. Yeah, well, that needs to
• 1:08:34
  happen. A whole lot to work with.
• 1:08:37
  Let's get Danny DeVito. Wife.
• 1:08:40
  Let's get Yeah, Mary's a cougar. Let's get Danny DeVito on the
• 1:08:43
  horn. Let's get this.
• 1:08:45
  Let's get this in the works. That's all I got.
• 1:08:49
  That was that was fun. That's all I got.
• 1:08:51
  Unless you got anything else for the people.
• 1:08:53
  I don't got nothing. Heck of a day for the three O
• 1:08:57
  change up. On Friday we released the change
• 1:09:00
  up I think like Thursday and then Friday night, for those who
• 1:09:05
  aren't familiar, we dropped the change up and it was on fast
• 1:09:09
  casual dining. And in the episode we'd
• 1:09:12
  referenced, how Five Guys was just a A never misses and how
• 1:09:18
  Panera is like overpriced hospital food.
• 1:09:21
  And where do we end up collectively on Friday night
• 1:09:25
  with our respective significant others?
• 1:09:28
  Knight ends up at Panera. I end up at Five Guys.
• 1:09:32
  I was forced into mine. Yeah, I recommended mine.
• 1:09:36
  Just a a real, real tough night. I got the I we talked about.
• 1:09:42
  I told her. I was like, you know, we just
• 1:09:44
  talked about this. Kyle and Meredith went to five
• 1:09:47
  guys and I got the pity. Oh, I guess we can go there.
• 1:09:51
  I'm like, no, no. And now did you say?
• 1:09:55
  Did you tell her that when you were already at Panera?
• 1:09:58
  We were on the way. Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  No, you gotta drive through one. That's like right down the
• 1:10:02
  street. She.
• 1:10:03
  Was gotta say that before you leave.
• 1:10:05
  I know, but I just. I didn't feel.
• 1:10:06
  I didn't have the energy. And she wanted bread, that's
• 1:10:09
  all. She's just like, I just need
• 1:10:11
  bread and I'm like, where you get it.
• 1:10:13
  We're going to the right place. I had this.
• 1:10:16
  I, and I will be honest, it was expensive.
• 1:10:19
  Of course I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it.
• 1:10:24
  The broccoli cheddar soup was decent.
• 1:10:26
  The sandwich that I got decent, Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  But for two of us to eat there for $36 or whatever is insane.
• 1:10:35
  Insane. Another.
• 1:10:39
  Note on Price is dude, I went to Tropical Smoothie, another place
• 1:10:43
  we briefly mentioned on the fast food.
• 1:10:46
  Working your way down the. List hit me up with a birthday
• 1:10:48
  smoothie and I'm like my birthday's in October.
• 1:10:52
  Don't question you. I didn't question it.
• 1:10:54
  I showed up and dude, the smoothies there are insane.
• 1:10:59
  It was 75750 for a smoothie. Yeah, yeah, I I couldn't do it.
• 1:11:13
  I couldn't do it. I mean, it's free.
• 1:11:16
  So I did it. But you did.
• 1:11:17
  If I'm. If I'm paying, I'm not.
• 1:11:19
  I'm. I'm not doing that.
• 1:11:20
  I'm sorry. Can't do it.
• 1:11:22
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:11:23
  Let's get out of here. That's all I got.
• 1:11:25
  We'll see you guys next week. Adios, don't go chasing
• 1:11:32
  curveballs. We'll be honest, always looking
• 1:11:35
  forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
• 1:11:37
  Until next time, stay filthy.