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Achievement Obsolescence: Starfield Delayed & Spinal Tap 2 Sequel · Multiple Nerdgasm

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three months ago Xbox or Microsoft announced that they were going to stop
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support for the Windows Phone Xbox achievements okay and I still have my
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Windows phone I still had some achievements I need to get yeah and I
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will get to I've got plenty of time and now it's shutting down in two days right
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so you're busy this weekend then by the sounds of it I don't know what to do
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welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things [Applause] nerdy I don't really want to play my
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Windows phone when I've got my Xbox series X so for listeners who don't who
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won't haven't been around long enough to remember this you did literally carry an
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extra phone just for this purpose right this is not a phone that you used just
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to get a jice yeah like a you didn't use it as a phone never used as a phone I
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used to take pictures cuz it had an awesome camera all right and I used to
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get achievements on it but that was about it so it was actually it wasn't
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too bad a phone well then why didn't you just use it that's I was just about to
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ask you if it had the games you wanted it's got a good camera and I mean I
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assume it could make phone calls and send text messages what couldn't it do I
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already had another phone okay I brought the phone specifically to go on my
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honeymoon so I could get achievements while I were in Japan okay cuz back then
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I had my Xbox streak going yes that's right all right cuz you you you use an
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Android phone well I guess it worked out cuz Windows phone is gone now right it's
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just doesn't exist anymore yes yeah just yeah what about that foldy phone thing
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they made is that gone there a did Microsoft make a a foldy did Microsoft
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make a foldy phone yeah I'm sure they did micros
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sof foldy not sure if they did
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phone the surface Duo yeah they're still selling it ah yeah that's that yeah that
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that's not a phone though I mean you're right looking at it
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it's not but okay fair
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enough yeah that's actually uh uh yeah a
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tablet SL PC in air
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quotes with a phone in it oh there is yeah I mean it makes phone calls a
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window pH no no it's it's Android so that's yeah good point H yeah yeah yeah
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yeah this is the not crazy cuz we have to be nice to Microsoft cuz I want them
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to give me free stuff in the future can't talk bad about them well we've got
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some bad news about Microsoft this week oh yes I saw this I'm still coming to
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terms with it yeah so it's it's it's Bethesda technically yeah uh who are
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owned by Microsoft but they've delayed
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their two big games Starfield and
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redfall which the thing that annoys me about it is they've come out not long
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ago and said we're still on track for November release don't worry about
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rumors don't worry just don't worry about it yeah don't worry about it it's fine
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Starfield red fall I don't know much about but Starfield this is what I'm
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looking forward to we don't know much about Starfield either that's why this
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is like I mean I'm not I wasn't so surprised because it's like well have
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they even shown any gameplay yet like no I think the first gameplay we we're
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probably still going to see game play on the 13th of June when they do their
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showcase yeah yeah that's that's probably true we probably still will but
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I mean I'm just not surprised by the delay they call it oh I'm not bothered
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by it be honest no I'm actually cuz with
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normally with perity games they are quite buggy yes maybe this is because they are so
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big maybe they were like well we ship it in November with the you know as in the
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state that we usually ship games and then maybe Phil Spencer was like okay if
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we were to ship it not in that state how long would it take
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you let's just pretend we did ship it in November when would the first patch come
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out early 2023 let's ship it
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then then look yeah like just take take
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your time cuz um I think the space travel you can't get that wrong
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sure you can't have that too buggy I don't think I think that's where if I
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can't get from one planet to another planet you've done it wrong I'm I'm
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wonder if we're going to get to land on plets or if it's going to be a cut scene
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there's so many questions we haven't seen a goddamn thing except like some
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pre-rendered stuff and even that was not much like I I guess it's Skyrim in space
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but I don't know it is it's it's Skyrim slout not Fallout yeah Fallout in space
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yeah that that's that's what it's going to be I'm just looking it's the the
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Showcase is actually called the Xbox and Bethesda showcase oh all right so
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they're like is weird so it would be very strange if there were no Bethesda
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games shown yes yeah all right and and these are the two strange they're
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calling it The Bethesda unless they're just going to announce Skyrim for
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something else Skyrim for Windows Phone that would be impressive oh they've
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already done the series ex update haven't they yes they did they I bought
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it cuz I had fishing yeah that's not I'm joking that's not why I bought it I
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bought it cuz I'm
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stupid have you played it yes briefly
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yes briefly briefly did did you get to
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the fishing oh God no that sounds boring
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yeah there's so many GES that have fishing these days I know it's almost
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like yeah they just kind of had to I guess it's a requirement now like all
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the Far Cry games oh yeah Far Cry 5 and six have fishing I didn't know six did but yeah I
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knew five does something else has fishing too I forgotten what it is
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something I'm playing another there fishing games yeah yeah what was that
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one Durk something when we played at uh yeah pack whatever it was the VR one but
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people are being really intense about this delay like really intense and
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saying [ __ ] like oh Microsoft's got no games Xbox is a toilet console like
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nothing for Game Pass and like being really intense about it like it's a what
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I don't know like I there's like a lot of like two games massive
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fail Xbox has no games I don't know it's weird and it's nothing to do to me this
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isn't an Xbox pro issue this would have
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happened whether it was on Xbox if it was still coming to Playstation what if
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they had longer like yeah I don't know I just and yeah I guess I don't see it
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that way it's not like I'm happy for them to just release them when they're
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ready and have them be better but I don't know maybe maybe I'm crazy I think
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I don't know people people complain about Crunch and that company should be
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be treating their their employees better and all this and then when they oh sorry
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we have to delay this game because what do you mean you let them take their time
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and spend time with their families you piece of [ __ ] you promised me a game
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yeah yeah and then now Phil Spencer says he hears the feedback and I'm like don't
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listen too much to the feedback pH yeah just don't listen just just tune it out
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do you best to just ignore it yeah
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yeah yeah whatever the game come out still I mean hopefully if they cancel it
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that would that would obviously that would be worse that's a different story
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if they cancel it now yeah I'll be saying something to Phil
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Spencer and then he'll listen big meanie wa whoa whoa you can't say that
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Luke you can't say that I'm sorry I take it back I retract
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my statement that's mean that's meanest rude yeah so I have not played a
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lot of games this week so I don't have a much other gaming news oh I I played
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Ghostbusters the remember when they remastered Ghostbusters like years ago
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yeah you just randomly sitting up by console taking up space Oh okay and I'm
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I'm getting sick of having to delete games to install stuff do you have so
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I'm starting to go through my back catalog you have one of the EXP expansion
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cards yeah I assume they that's full
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yeah yeah I figured yeah I don't God that expansion car was expensive cuz I
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have all my non series X Games on an SSD
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external and then just the you know I should do that the ones that require the
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fast Disc Go on the internal yeah that's how I do it I've got I've
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got my old external hard drive there I don't know why I don't do that I don't
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know why you don't do it either is it an SSD no doesn't require an SSD it doesn't
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require one but they're faster and the load times are better just putting that
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out there I'm the patient person really you're such an enigma
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no I I was like oh he's definitely going to care about this no oh I know as long
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as I get the achievement eventually I don't care I'll wait on the loading
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screen all right oh I could if it's if I can get into my head like it's an Xbox
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One game I have to wait a little bit while for it to load I'll probably be fine with
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that all right Xbox One a little bit slower Xbox 3 fast well forget I
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mentioned it then uh we got some followup on the Academy Awards I thought
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this was interesting remember I talked about how and I think we've talked about
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since too the fact that Zach Snider won
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two awards at the Academy Awards he won fan favorite and uh for uh Army of the
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Dead I think and then cheer moment for the bit when the flash goes back in time
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Justice League yeah yeah yeah for Justice League yeah and then now and to
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be clear not that this matters at this point and I'm I'm just saying mhm it
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seems like they've done some research again I don't know why someone did
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research on this but they've done some research and it seems like it might have
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been because some Bots [ __ ] with the Twitter poll because I didn't realize
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they were just these were just Twitter polls oh yeah and so yeah cuz I it is I
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don't know a way of actually get like
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the audience's actual vote like is there
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a a site to go to so it was just Twitter which I don't really use so no uh well
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we've got some Twitter news actually I think you'll find a lot of bots do use
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it and a lot of bots apparently like Zack Snider so the academy is standing
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by the uh the academy standing by the online poll which was limited get this
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right it was limited to 20 votes per Twitter
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handle so you could vote 20 times 20 times and then just make a new Twitter
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account and then vote 20 more times I don't know man this whole thing seems stupid
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now so see I'm still of of the thing this is sh like when you can have
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multiple accounts on things it means like stuff like this even if they
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weren't B and someone just went through and just made through 100 accounts that
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there is what 2,000 votes well is that right it says here the use of bots would
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explain some unusual spikes in balloting activity such as a one-day jump of
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25,000 votes after weeks of daily votes hovering at around 15 to 35% of
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that so I think I mean seems pretty obvious what happened Al although that
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can just be uh they shared it somewhere be aware of it yeah you're right you're
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right maybe yeah that that's also how the internet works people were just cuz
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we weren't even aware of the the vote let's do the math let's do the math on this
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25,000 and you could vote 20 times so do
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we think there were 1250 people who
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liked Army of the Dead that much maybe maybe could be a lot of people in the
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world yeah could be yeah yeah all right it wasn't a bad movie I don't what was
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what was the vote what was cuz they would have CU it wouldn't have been a
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free form it would have been a select from these yes oh yeah that's a good
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point what was the poll even yeah what were the other options yeah cuz that
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also changes things too cuz I think with the Academy Awards I don't know how it
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works I guess they nominate him and then you got to vote but what were the other
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options yeah like who nominates for the cheer moments and stuff
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yeah yeah whatever I just the yeah the academy War
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just needs to go away that would solve that has nothing for me
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yeah yeah well it might after the fun
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this year well that won't I think it just gave it
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more publicity yeah fair oh yeah there's some who might shoot in who's going to get
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hit this this time there's some followup on uh Nate R in and let me know that the
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reason that guy attacked Dave Chappelle we talked about that last week is
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apparently Dave Chappelle spoke at his local counil or something
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about opposed to some kind of low-income housing that there was some good
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evidence that it wasn't going to be good for anybody and he spoke against it and
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this guy was mad about it so there you go he actually apparently literally
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literally targeted Dave Chappelle for that reason so yeah there was a reason for it but
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yeah not the good way to get your point across no no I think we last week we
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didn't know why he had even done it it was some vague thing about trying to
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draw attention to something no apparently it was specifically Dave
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Chappelle because Dave Chappelle was against the thing this guy was for
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so yeah yeah so sounds like cil's trying to bring low income housing jelle's
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against it but jelle is probably so far removed from
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that low income sort of oh area now that I have no
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idea and this person probably is in that low income environment and it's probably
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going no that's good for us oh why because he couldn't afford a real gun
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you had to get a knife gun is that what you're saying no I'm just he like I need
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a gun he like I can give you a knife that lookss like a gun cuz that's a good
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idea that's not a knife this is a knife that's not a knife it's a gun no no it
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is a knife a gun it's just it's a knife that looks like a gun I've not thought
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thought this through no it's a good way to get shot so we mentioned Twitter followup
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I've got some Twitter followup for you as well
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um this week you know Elon Musk is still apparently going to buy Twitter uh and
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he said in an interview this week that he would let Trump back
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on if if if this goes through and his
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reason for it is that he thinks uh permanently Banning somebody like Donald
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Trump who was the president of the United States at the time is a bad idea
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and it did not prevent him from having a voice he just went elsewhere now he's
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got this truth social thing he started and people just followed him anyway so
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it just meant that people were less aware of what he
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was up to permanent ban wasn't the way I believe that's what he say I I think I
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think his it wasn't as clean cut as all that because it was kind of a
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conversation but I think from what I what I've read his position on it is
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that yeah a suspension may have been in order but not a permanent ban he thinks
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that a ban was a mistake oh uh and so he would because yeah he
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went off and created his own chamber exactly and and and people followed him
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and so now you've just not only do we not know what they're talking about
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they're not being confronted with opposing opinions on any of it so it's
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it's not it's not good I mean that does
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make sense to me uh but I could probably also be convinced the other way if someone tried
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hard enough I don't know I just don't really know yet how I feel about it yeah
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I think definitely at the time the ban was definitely something that
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had to be done because sure he was calling people to come and attack
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Capital oh yeah well I think well I mean this he got banned before that right but
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but and the ban may have inflamed that so I think there's be an argument to be
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made there I could be wrong Oh I thought he banned at the time of that was he
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yeah you might be right I don't remember but it certainly inflamed everybody when
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it happened so and yeah I don't think
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the end result was that great um
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and I think it did come out of a political uh manipulation a way you know
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like a lot of Twitter being particularly left yeah were trying to make sure he
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couldn't win which is well whether yeah I don't know I think a little bit of
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that I just don't know how I feel about that either like obviously I don't agree
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with the guy either but does seem a bit but then it's private company that's
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the other thing so you know there's so many angles you can come at this from
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yeah like yes yes because a lot of people go oh it's stop being free speech
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no he's still allowed to say whatever he wants yeah just not on our platform
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that's what I'm saying I'm bouncing around a lot here because I just yeah I
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just don't really know where to land on it there's a lot to it cuz because he
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he's saying Elan musk is saying Twitter is like the Town Square but I mean not
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really it's it's a social network and not everybody's on it like in fact a
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very small percentage of people are on it so how is it the town Square actually
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if you look that the Town Square would be probably be closer to Facebook would
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be probably closer to it than Twitter exactly Facebook I think Facebook's
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worse isn't it garbage probably yeah that I every now and again
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I'll log on I just see people just sharing videos and I just go not for me
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well I mean that's that's fine as long as they're real humans I think this is
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one of the problems on Facebook is that they're not humans these they're all
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just Bots I think trying to make us all mad at each other is just I think is
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just every platform that just Bots these days it's trying to make us all mad at
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each other Bots Bots Bots just just the just be nice be like
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me be like Luke say say things that sound threatening but AR yeah refuse to
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upgrade the hard drive on your Xbox just be more patient yeah I barely have time to play
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my Xbox and I don't have the patience I that maybe that's the problem I need to
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get the games loaded as quick as possible otherwise I'm not going to have
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time to play them that's how I'm going to justify that that might be for me I'm
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going insane cuz I still can't go back to work my leg is still weird yeah sure
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so my bone oh here's something cool my bone started to grow oh good that's what
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you wanted yes all looking good good good and then the bone stopped growing and started
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retreating oh which is not good retrea evidently you get you've got like
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different bone cells you got bone cells that make it grow and then B bone cells
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that sort of break it down because your bone is like your skin it's sort of you
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know how you replace your skin like every seven years you replace your bones
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as well right well evidently the bones that sort of break it down are working
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overtime so they're trying to work out what to do cuz you've confused the [ __ ]
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out Specialists empath I have they've got an idea but they're still looking into it cuz
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there's only been one case study of in the world yeah right so I'd be the
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second person to ever try it instead of trying to make sure whether that'll work
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for me or not it sucks being as unique as I am yes for listeners who don't know
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oh it's complicated I don't even know where to begin Luke's leg is not
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usual and now a section of it it's a bit weird a section of it has been replaced
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by metal but it's actually that bone that was there is not the bone that was
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supposed to be there anyway right there was the bone I put a pin
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through the center of the bone but thatone broke theone and then I slowly
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yeah but didn't they get that bone from elsewhere in your leg ear new bone yeah
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yeah yeah but I've done that before yeah that's what I'm saying is oh yeah that's
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my tibia yeah that's what I'm saying that your leg was already manipulated
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from when you were young and then now they're just yeah adjusting you further
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so playing around with a ball like Lego so I'm still stuck at home so I'm sick of
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games I've never heard you say that mhm maybe you could mow the lawn
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I'm just kidding I think that's why I'm playing through my back catalog I'm
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still trying to work out who's mowing my lawn I was going to ask yeah no no
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idea youve still no idea are they doing it and I'm here and I don't hear it when
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is it you don't know when it's happening I don't know can you put a camera no cuz
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no I'm going to have to just I'll order a camera after this
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but also it's winter so it's probably going to stop growing now oh yeah I've
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got a m mine now we talked about this I've I've actually I should have I
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should have started a couple weeks ago but I'm going to have to do it this
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weekend cuz you can't let it get too far no I know yeah if you let it go too long
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you're going to have to hire stuff no when I cut it it's going to die anyway
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and I don't want that anyway do you have a ride on MOA yet
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there's one no I don't have a ride on MOA yet cuz I'm I'm
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stupid um before we move off Twitter the other piece of news is that now
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apparently musk has put the deal on hold
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because he wants proof that there aren't more bots on there than Twitter is
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saying so Twitter have said before that um fewer than
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5% of active users oh that's
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crap right and so now that that's he's
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saying he wants some evidence of that
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because the median following of someone like Elon Musk is about
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41% fake followers which would
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indicate more than 5% of
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people but for a fake account you'd make them for for me it's easier to make them
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follow popular accounts to making them follow smaller accounts
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that's right but then like the fact that how many followers has he got like a lot
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41% of them are fake right how many F people are on Twitter like seems like
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that's more than 5% right I don't know I go on Twitter every now and
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again got to be careful opening Twitter though why I've sometimes like sometimes
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the pictures on there are a bit confronting foring in
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like a doctor's waiting group who are you following oh just oh just so one
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just Riley read and some noral non porn
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people no but you know how it it gives you a lot of it shows you a lot of stuff
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you're not following now that's true and so I follow a fair few cosplayers and
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for some reason hey oh you like cosplayers so he's he's a naked female for
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you no that's that's not what I'm following sure I'm following people who are
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dressing up yeah of my own home sure I don't want to
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see people boobs under normal circumstances I want to see people
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dressed as TAA from Final Fantasy 7's boobs
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yes no Harry released that on Xbox Harry released deep as boobs on
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Xbox I just want the Final Fantasy 7 remake that's happening right that is
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happening at some point they well releasing that or did that they never
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actually said that thought it would have happened by now cuz it was it was a
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PlayStation exclusive but remember at the time it was being released Xbox
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account released that yeah the that when the official Xbox account released
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something went oh sorry that was just an inter playing around with stuff yeah I
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mean maybe it was but that was a but it was pretty good indication it
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was coming and then the the exclusive deal expired but then PlayStation more
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to extend it again oh what my fear is is would explain it that PlayStation or
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Sony is going to buy Square Enix and buy Final Fantasy didn't um didn't somebody
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just buy uh no no oh yeah someone just did no no no square sold kept Final
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Fantasy yeah they Sorry squareenix sold a bunch of other stuff other Studios
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right they sold they sold
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um yeah so two raid's gone Hitman but I think they kept fantasy cuz I think
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that's one that's still well so but that that's that's a
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fe these days it's I sort of know I then know how PlayStation fans feel when
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someone just comes along buys your studio and goes you can't play it
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anymore delays all your games until next year still fun there's a Xbox there's a
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game that's coming at Xbox the show which is a baseball game it's come game
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past the last 2 years yeah and it pops up with the PlayStation logo where it
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starts it's it's strange it's CU it's been a PlayStation game for so long and
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it's I think it's still made by Shia with close ties to PlayStation but it's
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just on Xbox game pass do you get confused about what console you're
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on no I'll never have that problem do you have any PlayStations it's not that
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I I've owned every PlayStation up PlayStation 3 I've got no problem with
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PlayStation the only issue I have is don't let him into my house yeah right
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no it's like cuz I wanted to play like Last of Us and all of that and I I
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probably really would enjoy those games but then I start playing and then I go
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but I could I'm not getting achievements now yeah and even though I get
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trues it's not the same thing well yeah I don't care about that stuff so you
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don't get to be one of the best in the world in achievements by playing other
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consoles that's true you're wasting your time I'm I'm I'm I'm near I'm chasing down
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seventh in Australia really that close huh I'm
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well well I am about 51,000 away that's more than I
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have isn't it which is is that more than my gamer score
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oh most probably yes okay no just just
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want to make sure that's clear yep I don't know what my gamer score is I can
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find out for you if you want
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sure all right here we go give me a second oh oh no sorry I got excited cuz
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you've hit a new Milestone 50,000 true achievement score so oh uh
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no you're you got 35,000 360 all right look is there a way I can transfer that
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to you with that help unfortunately no CU I've probably
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played all the games that you got your achievements on already have them no
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it's fine you can just have the points though I don't I don't need them I'll
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just uh venmo I'll just venmo you the points is that let me let me tweet it
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Phil Spencer and then I've got let me give Phil Spencer some
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feedback listen here prick yeah
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just yeah no I've looked at all your achievements and I have them all you can
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you can tell just by looking at them you know why because they're just the ones
29:29
you get from playing games without have actually trying to get any achievements
29:34
that's how you know yep y oh you've
29:38
played Health flipper yeah I have I
29:45
have thanks for mentioning that on the
29:49
show that was uh that was fun uh yeah you got bored of Catherine
29:56
and decided to play some house flipper yeah yeah yeah then went played some
30:00
Doom then went back to the good old favorite The Witcher yeah yeah I do I
30:05
jump around a bit haven't played any much this week I'll play Tiny Tina some
30:08
this week with Jenna but that's about it yeah that's a great game I want to get back to
30:15
that yeah I'm still there's still the Uproar over the DLC the first DLC for
30:20
that being bit [ __ ] yeah yeah well hopefully they'll learn from might leave
30:27
it a little while did you ever uh own an iPod um I never
30:33
did no no well you may not get the my
30:37
first really yep iPods why is that iPods done
30:43
deceased no more iPods I I'm honestly shocked that they were still selling
30:49
them that's what everybody's saying because yeah no they were you everyone you just
30:56
got your phone that's yeah so they were still sing the iPod touch but not
31:00
anymore cuz I remember when it first came out and first what it first came
31:05
out was like 20 gig I think I think was it one less than that I think I
31:10
certainly remember that yes that model that was probably the biggest I remember
31:14
I remember it sort of also being shocking at the time because it was so
31:17
small so like yeah how does it have that much space yeah I remember when Dave and
31:22
I lived in Eastwood uh upstairs neighbors had the the creative
31:28
Zen was it called little MP3 player it had like zoon no no zoom's the Microsoft
31:35
one it was the creative Zen it was like before all of that was like way back in like
31:41
like probably L late '90s
31:44
um mhm and it held like two Meg and uh
31:50
and then I think that's when did the iPod come out when let's have a look
31:54
iPod release date 200 2001 yeah okay
31:59
yeah so 2001 was the first one and uh and it was like compared to all the
32:03
others it just like gig and yeah unbelievable you can fit stuff on this
32:10
yep your whole music library if you purch I could sort of I
32:16
can really understand that going away yeah mainly because of the fact that no
32:20
one knew I was still selling it but even cuz everyone's got their phone but even
32:24
for like people who don't have phones like I'm thinking children yes normally
32:28
most of them have tablets and things now yeah and my um I mighton say I won't say
32:34
her name but my my Dingus over here can um play music if I ask it to the the
32:40
cylinder that I have over here I'm I'm not going to say a name cuz she'll wake
32:44
up and ask and say what but yeah yeah I I I have having that problem with Um
32:49
Google at the moment it just thinks you're talking if I'm not listen if yeah
32:54
so if I'm not watch if I'm watching stuff not headphones on and a YouTube
32:59
channel says Hey something go do this
33:04
mine go do something but doesn't quite understand it yeah yeah cuz it's I think
33:11
it's I think it's trained to my accent now it actually understands me but
33:15
anyone else it doesn't now it's cuz your accent is unique
33:22
yes your specific accent yeah like it's not the just the Australian accent it's
33:28
my accent weird the Luke accent half Bogan half Westy
33:33
yeah half nerd 10%
33:40
intelligent just throws it all out mhm yeah so I was just going to say goodbye
33:45
to iPod yeah oh yeah you know I didn't even think iPod is uh geek of the week
33:50
or we do have one other geek of the week Contender Fred Ward who uh you may know
33:57
from Tremors and some other stuff but mostly
34:02
Tremors a you see the photo you'll know who I mean I like Tremors yeah who
34:07
doesn't so uh yeah he has died at the age of 79 no cause I liked him in stuff
34:13
yeah no cause of death has been given he's just he's died of
34:16
something uh yeah what else was he in Joe Dirt
34:22
uh some TV shows it was just that guy that was sort of in everything
34:28
oh he's in True Detective season 2 which I've not seen apparently yeah he was
34:31
yeah exactly yeah like you look at that photo and it's like yeah I know that
34:37
guy yeah so oh look I'm going to give it a tie he he can have it with iPod so to
34:44
tie between Fred Ward and the [Music]
34:50
iPod Steve Jobs is rolling around in his grave that's nothing against him no no
34:55
nothing against him no I mean nothing against I think he'd be happy with that wouldn't
34:59
he I think I I just don't want him to well I don't want him feel bad that he
35:03
had to share it with like an inanimate object but the iPod is was
35:08
did the iPod did really start us getting to the phones we have today yeah exactly
35:14
right but then you got to weigh that up against the fact that this guy was in
35:17
tremors so I mean I'm going watch
35:21
trimmers after this go on I will I own it
35:28
do you on DVD or I own all the trimers movies or on digim well I I have the
35:35
license to watch them on Xbox right yeah you don't own any of that stuff
35:40
anymore there's like six of them I think they would argue you never did but
35:45
yeah I know and uh what's he's in some of the later ones what's he what's his
35:49
name from uh Randy from Scream what's that guy's name do you know who I
35:54
mean uh what kind of Jamie Kennedy Jamie Kennedy Jam Kennedy yes yeah he's in the later
36:01
ones yeah he plays the son I think he plays his son or something oh Fred
36:06
Ward's son maybe he played someone's son I think yeah well obviously he plays
36:10
someone's son he played someone son avoidable unless you're playing Adam and
36:14
or Eve I don't know it's a really bad [Laughter]
36:19
movie yep I struggle to watch
36:23
it and yet you'll watch that over
36:29
Spies Like Us Spies Like Us no top secret which is the one that Dan sent
36:33
you top secret top well top yeah I know it's it's trapped inside some shrimp
36:37
wrap so shrimp
36:42
rack no I'd have to find out where I put my external hard drive and plug it into
36:47
the computer so I can watch it so Dan's going to have to send you one of those now
36:52
or no I have one somewhere speaking of Dan he's not here actually
36:58
oh yeah he's not here he's he's we can say he's moving house he's talked about
37:03
his house I think he's he's moving yeah we could just don't yeah we're not going
37:06
to give out the address we're not going to give out the address just just be
37:11
clear on that is that we're not going to do that yeah okay we're not going to do
37:15
that we're not going to dox him but we can't say he's moving yeah and if you
37:19
wanted to get get hold of him you could call and leave a message for him at
37:23
o if you really wanted to yes a lot well a lot of people do say I've spoken to
37:29
some of our lists they do say Dan is their favorite which I think is a bit
37:32
rude when they're talking to me Dan is their favorite kids have it too good these
37:37
days but you're not going to get an iPod anymore no no you're also not going to
37:44
get Dave Batista as Drax anymore well you'll get two more things yeah we knew
37:50
this were coming I know I know I don't know I don't know why this is news I
37:53
just put it in here cuz they've reiterated it again but he's done yeah
37:59
he's already said he was done which and they finished shooting volume 3 like so
38:04
he's he's already done yes yeah yeah
38:07
he's done done so this year we get the
38:11
holiday special yep which I'm still really interested to see what what that
38:16
is what the [ __ ] is it yeah is it going to
38:21
be uh I is it is it really going to be like the Star Wars holiday special with
38:27
singing and a cooking show and 20 minutes of no dialogue I hope
38:33
so so do I sort of but also can we skip
38:38
the no dialogue part cuz I actually I honestly think that's the most painful
38:42
part of watching the holiday special is that first 20 minutes where no one it's
38:47
just Chewbacca's family yes and no one's speaking in a before it gets into the
38:52
really crazy [ __ ] well just because you know speak Wookie to be
38:59
racist they're speaking specious they're speaking you just don't understand it
39:04
well his dad's not well his granddad he's just learing at a half naked woman
39:09
on a hologram but that goes for way too long I hope that's not in it cuz that's
39:14
just weird so strange and then next year we
39:19
get G together Vol three which cuz I wonder how much it's changed from the
39:23
original script cuz that was meant to start this new phase four
39:28
this new face originally yeah cuz now we've got uh before yeah I know they're
39:35
in Thor love and thunder because I've seen the trailer love and thunder yeah
39:40
yeah so I know they're yeah originally it was been be volume 3 but then James
39:44
gun got fired which pushed everything back
39:48
mhm I wish I could get fired like that I know I know that's the best way to get
39:53
fir fired have this awesome job oh would you like your all drob back as well yes
40:00
and I'm still going to keep working on this as well yeah yeah that really
40:06
really worked out well for him yeah well he should never have been
40:12
fired in the first place I agree but the world had to learn that
40:17
but yeah as do you um but it's a shame they're
40:24
more Drax Drax is like the best character espe when he's
40:30
invisible I always found that that I mean I did that is excuse me that is
40:34
funny but I found cuz that's from endgame not from yes one of the
40:40
Guardians movies I found the humor not
40:44
quite right in the non James gun directed
40:50
ones because could yeah I think that was the only thing good thing from ja from
40:55
that I think that's because it wasn't James gun yeah yeah yeah and like not
40:58
that it was bad and cuz actually there were some good moments in that
41:01
especially when Thor leaves with them at the end that's that him being Macho with
41:05
starlord that stuff was all good I just yeah I just found that the jokes land
41:09
better in the ones that he directs yeah I'm excited for you get one
41:15
more chance to see it I know so am I two more holiday
41:22
special did you watch the um Avatar 2 trailer
41:28
I watched half of it and got bored I mean it's it's just music with
41:33
like shots so it's like oh there's some dialogue at the
41:38
end oh I didn't get to the dialogue I didn't but yeah it's just some shots and
41:42
music yeah it looks pretty and that's and I'm going to go see it it looks like
41:48
Avatar it's going to be in 3D again probably yeah but it just looks like the
41:52
first movie if you had shown me that and said here's some footage from the first
41:56
movie I would have been like okay okay thanks the only thing difference
42:00
difference I saw was it looked like there was more water yeah there's fish
42:05
stuff yeah there's more that's the only difference I could find
42:10
from well I and I really think the studio is going to go oh my god what
42:17
have we done cuz they've already made two well I mean I to be fair I don't
42:21
know how how different could it look it's literally a sequel to the first one
42:24
set on the same planet with the same characters stuff like that it's not
42:27
going to look like different but it was just like there's nothing remarkable not
42:32
going to do what Avatar it's not going to do what Avatar
42:36
did back in the day it's not going to do those yeah because I went and saw Avatar
42:41
a couple of times not because I thought it was just because it was the first
42:46
time i' ever seen 3D done like that it looked beautiful yeah
42:53
and I'll go through the first and I think I'll probably going to see it
42:59
once just to go and say I've seen it but yeah I think they're going to realize
43:04
mistake when this doesn't do the numbers it doesn't do the numbers that
43:08
the first one did maybe it
43:10
will he's done this every time maybe so
43:15
I mean this could be the this could be the you know the the the one that
43:20
doesn't but are there that many Avatar fans like straight up Avatar fans I guess people
43:27
did like it they just don't have like vocal fans like Star Wars fans and that I guess but
43:33
like I think people did like the first one well there there's Avatar Land or
43:38
something in D yeah I know how popular is that yeah there is yeah Avatar 2009
43:45
man that was a while ago like H like it's not something that I would go
43:52
and like if I was down in Florida I'm not going to go to Avatar Land I have no
43:57
interest in it but there must be fans if they yeah you think
44:02
so but I don't know if the for four
44:07
movies to do the same story just over and over Earth comes they want the stuff
44:12
they fight Earth off go away we're going to be like this Earth comes back like
44:16
it's just that that's all the story is going to be for four four more movies
44:21
been diesels in this one Earth wants the unobtanium the unobtanium that's right I
44:26
forgot uh but he didn't create that that's an actual I know it's just so silly
44:32
engineering term I know it's just silly VN Diesel's in this one so it's Kate
44:38
Winslet I don't know if that helps Michelle Yo's in it she's cool no
44:44
no yeah you like her she's cool but yeah
44:50
as I said I'm going to go see it and I'll go see it in the movies cuzz
44:55
you have to see it in 3D like cuz
44:58
Brendan cow's in this what from um what's that bloody show what's that
45:05
movie he's an Australian
45:09
actor Jermaine Clement's in it maybe I maybe I'm going to maybe I do
45:14
want to see this he
45:21
might I don't think so but you might
45:27
um yeah anyway yeah look it's got It's got names it's got people I like in
45:33
it yeah
45:39
yeah so does Star Wars and we don't like that yeah I just don't I don't know
45:43
how I don't know how I'm going to go with watching four more movies to the same
45:48
story maybe he'll surprise you we'll
45:55
see um sequels I was surprised by this
46:02
news partially because I've already got a sequel to this movie on DVD I thought
46:07
they're making a sequel to This Is Spinal tap the cast is going to reunite
46:11
and they're going to yeah I thought they I always found it
46:16
weird that they didn't do one yeah there is there is return to spinal tap got
46:21
I've got a DVD that's like a second thing so I'm I mean and I thought
46:27
I got a shock that they didn't make one cuz remember a few years ago I think in
46:33
2004 they did their one night only World Tour yeah they actually came out and
46:39
they played a show and I thought that was going to be sort of the third one
46:42
where they were sort of going to do do do it again but nothing came with that
46:47
one but yeah it's not a sequel
46:51
It's yeah so I'm but no one really knows about the second one I have it on DVD
46:57
downstairs somewhere but so I'm going to have to dig that out this week and do
47:00
some research but they're doing they're calling it it's spinal tap
47:04
2 uh and it's a I guess a direct sequel to the original I I said don't know I
47:10
the other one was more like uh more stuff so maybe it's not really a
47:15
sequel like uh but I'm telling you man I've got I've got I like like instead of Stonehenge
47:22
being super small it's now super huge they can't get it in right the return of
47:28
spinal tap there we go the return of spinal tap is a 1992
47:35
rockumentary uh yeah it's equal to This
47:39
Is Spinal Tap came out in 1992 so anyway whatever I'm going to have to look into
47:45
this cuz that they have to there has to be some explanation why
47:50
this will be exp spiral tap 2 yes yeah yeah I'm not going to let him pull one
47:55
over on us yeah because the second one I actually
48:00
like the second one yeah it's very confused and it doesn't seem like
48:07
something like you'd have to W con and go no that's not Cannon anymore that just
48:15
seems oh is it is that it's spinal tap 11
48:20
oh that's funnier yeah and they're just letting
48:24
everybody get it wrong for now
48:32
yeah anyway very I mean I'm not I'm not surprised that people don't know there's
48:36
a sequel because I feel like people like know of this movie but aren't
48:42
actually fans of it sort of thing like a lot of people probably
48:48
don't know a lot of things that they've laughed at in other shows have come
48:52
directly from spinal tap yeah totally like cuz I don't I don't even
48:58
think a lot of people seen the original but you just know of It quotes and whatnot cuz I
49:04
think quotes and yeah cuz what one one of them's a writer on The Simpsons isn't
49:10
he uh one of them is several characters on The Simpsons and I think they've all
49:15
been on The Simpsons yeah Harry Shir is they definitely all
49:19
been on there and I think he's har he's Mr I'm I'm looking
49:25
forward to it though yeah Bring it on Bring it on but also explain Bring It
49:32
On explain yourselves your PRS unless I've just ruined a joke for
49:38
you then I apologize I forgive you cuz the way the
49:44
way he has put its spinal tap too it's does look like it he hasn't put the word
49:51
two it's an 11 Roman numerals to mhm
49:54
could be an 11 that's all I'm saying I would put money on the fact that
49:59
that's a joke in this at some point I
50:03
put money on it yeah yeah yeah I've been
50:07
watching a show uh this is not in here but uh I've been watching a show called
50:13
rust valley restorers have you heard of this I'm going to assume you have not
50:20
where they go out find old cars and then restore them I mean kind of it's uh it's
50:27
a it says it's documentary series it's a
50:30
reality show uh it's Canadian and it's
50:34
uh a bunch of hillbillies in um Canada in British Columbia Canada Canada in
50:40
what they call rust valley which is just where all these old
50:44
car dumps are and it's B it's this guy
50:49
Mike uh the premise is that he's got
50:53
like 400 classic cars all rusting on his property
50:57
and so he's going to restore them all um
51:01
but it's basically like it's interesting
51:04
to me because these guys are just like ridiculous it's like you know where you
51:11
got those shows where they do it up and they do it all really nice and
51:13
everything's like all like fancy and that kind of stuff that's it's not that
51:16
kind of show this is where they're like they do this they do this uh race it's
51:21
called it's called Hit to pass where you just race around in a circle and and if
51:26
you want to pass the person in front of you you have to hit them first as and
51:30
then you can pass and stuff like that and then the winner of like one lap gets
51:35
to smash through an old um trailer and
51:38
like so it's just yeah what it's it's a weird show and I don't
51:45
I just put it on is it something you're watching with your full attention
51:49
something you're watching doing something else exactly right it's like
51:52
I'll pop it on while I'm cooking or whatever and I just sit it there and
51:55
it's just like I said it's just these funny funny characters live in the
51:59
middle of nowhere in Canada and do up these C that's what I like to do yeah
52:05
it's a show yeah it's a show to do while you're doing something else it's
52:09
entertaining but it's not something you'd sit it's not exactly I'm trying to
52:13
think of a good television show let me put I can't think of any good television
52:17
shows it's not always sunny where you want to pay attention otherwise you're going to miss
52:22
something it's these guys I am interested in seeing that AMC
52:29
are developing their an Alan Wake television show yes I've just put a link
52:34
to an article that will just tell you a little bit about rust valley restores
52:39
yeah so uh which that's basically going to be Twin Peaks that's why it's
52:45
interesting right because it's you're making a TV show out of a video game
52:50
heavily inspired by a TV show that's cool
52:55
yes um because I recently just finished playing Alan Wake again and it's a weird
53:02
game and I also just finished playing control as well who remedy also made
53:05
yeah I think we talked about remedy a bit last week yeah I I've I've never
53:10
finished remedy you're great yeah we did because we talked about qu
53:15
I yeah but I'm yes so I'm really interested to see what how they do cuz
53:20
I've never watched Twin Peaks it's never sort took never I don't know it's [ __ ]
53:26
excellent for me it's excellent but I'll watch the Alan Wake
53:33
TV series well which I think will be I was going to say can I give you
53:39
some homework can you watch at least one episode of Twin
53:44
Peaks would you watch new or old uh we could no you'd have to watch
53:49
the original first otherwise you're not going I mean you're not going to know
53:52
what's going on anyway but you certainly won't know what's going on if you don't watch the
53:58
original let me see I'm not I refuse to pay money for it see if I can stream it
54:03
somewhere all right just watch the first episode of Twin Peaks and let me know
54:07
what you think and I I'll try and remember to watch every streaming
54:11
service go justwatch.com
54:18
win Twin Peaks it's on I have it you have it I've got both of them there you
54:24
go yes it's on Paramount Paramount plus
54:28
I see it I see it yep all right so your homework is just to watch just watch the
54:34
first episode please and let me know what you think actually but I want to go
54:38
watch strange new worlds you've got a whole
54:44
week yeah I do just put twin piics on in the background while you play games on
54:49
your Windows phone but I I also have a feeling I also have a feeling that isn't
54:53
twin Pig something you need to pay attention to because
54:57
it is so strange you need to watch it that might be true that might be true
55:03
cuz that's that's some that's sometimes the reason why I skip watching something
55:07
is cuz to enjoy it I have to watch it that makes sense at all that might be true
55:12
I it's been a long time since I've watched Twin Peaks without kind of
55:17
knowing plenty so I don't know I definitely paid
55:24
attention when I watched excuse me when I watch the return like the new series yeah
55:30
and again I don't know that it helps but probably
55:37
does well I'll watch strange new worlds and then I'll watch the first episode I
55:42
guess at least if you pay attention to it you can be more confident that it's
55:46
David Lynch and not and not you you know what I mean like when when you're
55:52
watching it and something weird happens and you're like what the [ __ ] is going
55:55
on did I miss something if you were watching it then you know no
55:58
you didn't that's just that's just David
56:04
Lynch um so do we know anything more about the Alan Wake show other than just
56:09
AMC's making it cuz that's not a lot of
56:13
info no well uh not really it's they're
56:18
taking a risk cuz like I'm watching the Halo show TV show at the moment oh is that that's
56:25
still on obviously it's got a lot of people divided oh really
56:29
yeah what do you think because cuz you're a big halo fan you know all the
56:34
law I am I know I'm not all of it I I
56:40
but I I am enjoying it though it's different they have taken a different
56:44
story route than the games and
56:49
books but like spoil off okay John got
56:54
laid this week did he he he does that does he wait does he
57:00
come out of that suit sometimes or is that even a bigger spoiler he doesn't he
57:04
just comes in the suit if you know what I mean in the show they've got like they
57:08
suppressed their sort
57:11
of hormones sure horniness does and he
57:17
he's taken that out that chip out right he was like no I'm getting
57:23
some yep he was like I want the behavioral chips removed and they're like which
57:29
ones all of them he's like just one of them which one just one yeah the one
57:35
that makes you violent no keep that
57:41
one then but no it's different and if you go into
57:47
it except just being prepared to accept that it's going to be different I think
57:51
you'll be fine or if you haven't played the games or don't know the law you
57:56
probably enjoy it yeah well I don't but for people who are like hardcore you
58:03
don't like the show or hardcore yeah but for hardcore fans they're a bit
58:09
like no that's not John # still in shock from him taking
58:15
his helmet off I think a lot of people still in shock from him taking his
58:18
helmet off in episode one yeah but it's yeah I
58:23
know it's TV show it's not a video game like if he didn't take his helmet off
58:27
it's I don't know yeah I am I do like
58:32
the fact that they are like Hy Dr Hy who's the one who created a Spartan
58:37
program and kidnapped the all the Spartan's children everything sure is
58:41
sort of the villain in this he certainly sounds like a
58:47
villain is he not a villain in the game she
58:52
she no well no he altruistically kidnapped and tortured all those
58:58
children she was just preparing for the future oh she sorry it's a lady my bad
59:04
she yes yeah she she she's prepared to do
59:09
whatever it takes all right and if it takes a bunch of kids that's what she'll
59:16
do if you have to take a bunch of kids flash con and give the flash clone back
59:20
to the family so the family can slowly watch the their the child die while they
59:26
throwing their children out of planes it's fine
59:34
to actually how many more episodes are there cuz I am the one thing I'm a bit
59:41
nervous about is that to me there's a good chance that this may not get a
59:46
sequel okay cuz it's
59:49
not not because it's bad but just
59:54
because sometimes
1:00:00
at the moment yeah it's just the one season how many
1:00:06
episodes seen do well oh no I know that how many
1:00:12
episodes like have you watched all of it or it's still going
1:00:15
episode it's still going okay so the
1:00:19
next episode is come out is nine okay
1:00:23
and you've seen eight I take it I've
1:00:26
seen eight and in episode eight he gets
1:00:30
laid all right so listeners if that's all you want to see just skip
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ahead you don't get to see it what so I know episode one he takes the
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helmet off episode 8 he takes the pants off eight he gets
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laid yep that's it yeah when's he going to take his shirt off episode four is
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where the shirt came off oh it was okay yeah yeah it was building up to the
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pants coming off he s takes piece off each episod pants and then by the end of it
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he's just walking around naked yeah just in his
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boots like in the game but yeah we'll
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yeah we will see I'm enjoying it but I could also understand if it doesn't get a second
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season before we move into the Afterparty I have one thing I want to
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ask you about have you seen Dune yet
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did you watch June no I have not okay
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no we okay it would it entice you into watching the the sequel when it comes
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out the sequel in the second part right if I told you that Christopher Walkin
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will be playing the emperor of the Galaxy who is a pretty major player in
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the next part of the story would that entice
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you Christopher Walkin not really I do love Christopher walk but he's not like
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someone I'm running out to see everything he's been in forget it then I
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thought you'd be more excited made some crap over the years yeah and it was all
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good all right well I thought that' excite you more but all right
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fine no no I think I'm going to go watch June I'll watch that one bit that I know
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and then just turn it off you won't have to watch too much then actually that's
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probably not true it's about an hour in a bet it's a long
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movie well that's why there's two parts that's I'm I'm still amazed cuz for a
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very long time I said there was going to be no second part I know you did but
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they start shooting in July so I was wrong that's cuz part one was very
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good people liked it did a good job that's why you should watch
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it I've made my but sometimes good doesn't mean
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sometimes oh yeah yeah sometimes good I thought we going to say good doesn't
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mean it's it's worth watching but you mean good doesn't mean it gets a sequel
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no yeah not yeah
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yeah look at this is spinal tap but it and it was also good from the start it
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wasn't good from it picked up later like Blade Runner or anything this was good
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from day one yep yeah people were into
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it during the pandemic too good stuff
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Den all right well look the best getting enemy is yet best you get out of me is
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I'm admitting I'm wrong which never happens okay I'll take it I'll take it
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all the way to the Afterparty that's all for this week thank you for listening
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