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Episode #433 - S.O.S. Send Some Slacks and Goosed by Larry! · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: He war the cable Guy and you're listening to tech
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  Speaker 1: CRD Radio. Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a D.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor, I'm sir, I'm Matt Jones.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm justin lem me. Holy cow, we got the
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  Speaker 1: whole crew. Yeah, well you you've been out sick. You
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  Speaker 1: you feeling better? Yeah, I'm feeling better. But my voice
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  Speaker 1: isn't you sound okay? You were saying that earlier and
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking you sound right, you don't sound yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I still got I still got. I still don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm like the voice is fully back right now.
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  Speaker 1: And you went to a comedy show and got everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the audience sick. You did that, of course, got
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  Speaker 1: them all infected with the RONA. It was great. Well no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I went to uh yeah, it was just a it
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  Speaker 1: was a comedy show. This it's just a I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's somewhat famous, I guess. I mean he's on Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: He does a lot of dry bar comedy, which they
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  Speaker 1: have a pretty big YouTube channel. The guy's name is
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  Speaker 1: Rodney Norman. All Right. He's very very unique in his
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  Speaker 1: appearance because he looks like a hobo. Yeah, literally, like
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  Speaker 1: a homeless hobo. But he's a really really nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's really funny. But uh yeah. The show was at
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Bears, you know the brewery that's in our neighborhood,
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  Speaker 1: but it was actually at their other location downtown. I
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  Speaker 1: went down there with a friend and we got there
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  Speaker 1: before the show and I just I got to meet
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  Speaker 1: the guy, you know, Rodney, and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've been following you for a while. I
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  Speaker 1: love your I love your comedy. And it was a
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  Speaker 1: very small show, maybe twenty twenty five people maybe the most,
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  Speaker 1: but I did mention to him. I said, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna throw this out there. I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a former radio DJ and I you know, do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of voiceover work and things like that. I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering, maybe could I introduce you? Oh wow? And
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  Speaker 1: he's like, actually, yeah, that'd be great because you know,
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  Speaker 1: all comedians get introduced and I didn't have anybody introduced me.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, that oh this
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be cool. Oh wow. You know, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of came up with a little script and it was
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  Speaker 1: funny because I ran it by him, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, he goes, and you don't. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what. I'll tell you what I said. But he
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  Speaker 1: told me. He goes, you don't do stand up comedy.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, you you really should do stand up comedy
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  Speaker 1: because you're actually kind of funny. But basically what I
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  Speaker 1: said was, thanks for coming out tonight for the comedy show.
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  Speaker 1: We're here to see a very funny gentleman. He's been
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  Speaker 1: doing comedy for twenty seven years, and if you don't
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  Speaker 1: know who he is, it's kind of weird that you're
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  Speaker 1: actually here right now, but you've seen him on Drybar
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  Speaker 1: Comedy and it finally it took COVID for people to
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  Speaker 1: finally find him funny. Give it up for Rodney Norman, right,
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  Speaker 1: And everybody just kind of laughed and applauded at that.
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  Speaker 1: And then I messaged Rodney the next day on Facebook
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, I really truly believe that you should
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  Speaker 1: be in stand up comedy. Well, and I said, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I don't understand because I don't have material,
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  Speaker 1: And he told me. He told me something that would
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  Speaker 1: really actually hit home to me because I sat back
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  Speaker 1: and I thought about it. He said It was so
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  Speaker 1: simple too, as most good advice is. He said, right,
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  Speaker 1: the truth and the jokes will find themselves. It's true. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. That's kind of cool because you also had Brad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember Brad. You got a photo with
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  Speaker 1: him and yeah, Brad, Brad Williams william I went to
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  Speaker 1: that show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was an amazing show. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: shout out to shout out to Brad. We all still
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  Speaker 3: hate Karen. I actually Carol Carol, Yes, we hate well,
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  Speaker 3: we hate Karen's too, but Carol, we hate Carol. I
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  Speaker 3: actually still have the sticker that he the autographed for
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  Speaker 3: me and the guy who opened for him. He had
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  Speaker 3: an opener, but I have I have his shirt that
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  Speaker 3: I bought it for Lee and I and I still
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  Speaker 3: wear and it says I like your dogs more than you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh So if you ever follow, just look up Rodney
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  Speaker 1: Norman on Facebook because he'll do these things where he'll
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  Speaker 1: just go live on Facebook for like thirty seconds and
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  Speaker 1: he'll be like, Okay, so you survived until today, So
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  Speaker 1: you got that going for you. So yeah, have a
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  Speaker 1: super fn awesome day. Bye. And that's that's that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, that's all he says. I think you look
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  Speaker 1: at some of the comics that are out there now
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  Speaker 1: and there there are more comics that we're seeing and
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  Speaker 1: getting a chance to Hear's the I think they're getting
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  Speaker 1: their day because of you too, and Instagram reels and
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  Speaker 1: TikTok and TikTok, because a lot of them you may
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  Speaker 1: not ever hear from you're suddenly getting access to. There's
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  Speaker 1: one guy that I saw and I think he's on
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  Speaker 1: dry bar as well. He's got to be I swear
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  Speaker 1: he's got to be in his mid eighties and he
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  Speaker 1: does his jokes all based around I know, yes, I
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  Speaker 1: think I know you're talking about. He does his jokes
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  Speaker 1: all based around being, you know, an older gentleman, and
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  Speaker 1: boy is he funny. He is, and he just that's
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  Speaker 1: all he does, is, like you said, talks about real
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  Speaker 1: life and the jokes follow and it just it just
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  Speaker 1: comes along. But yeah, I can't remember that guy's name,
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  Speaker 1: but I know exactly what you're talking about. Very he's
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  Speaker 1: very old. He's an older gentleman, very rail looking. Yep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he is hilarious. Yeah, there's one comic that I
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  Speaker 1: wish was still with us that is no longer with us.
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  Speaker 1: That I think was a master at what he did,
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  Speaker 1: and if he would have lived a little longer, I
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  Speaker 1: think he would just be been huge. Mitch Hedberg, Oh
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah. I actually compare Rodney to a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of like a Mitch Hedburg style of comedy because he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't quite do just one liners, but his jokes are
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  Speaker 1: very short. Yeah yeah, I Matt remembers Mitch Hedburg as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I agree like entirely that it's it's definitely social
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  Speaker 3: media and you know, easy access to short form entertainment
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  Speaker 3: that's giving all these people a leg up. Like just
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  Speaker 3: look at a Jeff Rcooney, Like he started out just
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  Speaker 3: posting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: On r slash.
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  Speaker 3: Stand up, He's got his own subreddit. He's a big
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  Speaker 3: name now like that that launched him to it. I
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  Speaker 3: remember being in like high school and the way you've
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  Speaker 3: discovered a new comics. Somebody brought in a CD on
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  Speaker 3: some trip where you're on the bus for.
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  Speaker 1: Saint Cook's Yeah Cook, Yeah, what happened to Dame Cook Curry?
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Arcurry actually just came to Denver about five months ago,
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  Speaker 1: and I was looking at going to his show until
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  Speaker 1: I saw the ticket prices. Yeah, has a gun up
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  Speaker 1: three and fifty dollars a ticket for a stand up show? Really,
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  Speaker 1: that's how bad guy he's gotten.
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  Speaker 3: Good lord, Yeah, Now, I mean one of the one
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  Speaker 3: of like the foundational stand up voices from like me
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  Speaker 3: growing up, you had the the blue collar guys. And
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  Speaker 3: I remember listening to Billing Vall when I was Billing
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  Speaker 3: Vale when I was younger, with the here's your sign,
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  Speaker 3: And I just recently read that he decided to retire
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  Speaker 3: because he was like, I'm I am a name synonymous
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  Speaker 3: with stand up comedy, Like I don't have to do
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  Speaker 3: this anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, dude, you got more years
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  Speaker 2: left in you.
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  Speaker 3: And I looked up his age and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh god, time passes really quickly.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, he's like sixty five now or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought of I would pay big money to
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  Speaker 1: see this. A Hallmark movie would Jeff Foxworthy, Larry the
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  Speaker 1: cable guy, bill ing Vall, and then the other guy
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  Speaker 1: who drank a lot what was his name? Roy?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, tight Sally.
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  Speaker 1: You imagine a Hallmark movie with a four of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: that would be awesome. Well, you know it's funny is
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  Speaker 1: I When my dad was still alive, we actually went
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  Speaker 1: to the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, and I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was our radio station KPX that got us got me
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  Speaker 1: backstage passes so we were able to go. And it
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  Speaker 1: was like a conference room, and I remember seeing Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Foxworthy and Layer of the Cable Guy and and Bill
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  Speaker 1: Engvall and Ron White and they were all just standing
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  Speaker 1: around and my dad was like a kid in a
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  Speaker 1: candy store, so cool. And he asked to get a
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  Speaker 1: picture with Layer of the Cable Guy and we got
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  Speaker 1: a picture and Larry goosed my dad during the picture
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  Speaker 1: to make my dad be like, oh my god, you
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  Speaker 1: know in the picture? Who did we just live? Did
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  Speaker 1: we just lose Justine? After lost just his dad? Dad?
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  Speaker 1: He goosed my dad and just just froze. God, Oh
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  Speaker 1: he's gone, Like what happened? Well, we know that it's
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  Speaker 1: not the entire town to Denver, because Matt, you're you
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  Speaker 1: don't live too far away?
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  Speaker 2: Right, I can throw a rock and his house.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what the heck happened the internet?
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  Speaker 2: Eric did something?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I would add to that Hallmark movie
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  Speaker 3: Andy is if if we're doing like our dream line
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  Speaker 3: up on that. I would want someone's angry grandfather to
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  Speaker 3: be George Carlin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you'd have to have just so like older comics, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the absolute god of stand up comedy. Just bring
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  Speaker 3: George Carlin back to film.
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  Speaker 1: That movie, right, yeah, but AI, I would want to
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  Speaker 1: see it.
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  Speaker 3: I would don't don't be AI at that. You can't
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  Speaker 3: capture George Carlin through AI.
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  Speaker 1: No, that would not be good. I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 1: who's still with us that we'd be able to you'd
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  Speaker 1: be able to have in that as an older cast,
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  Speaker 1: and then the female cast members. Because it's Hallmarks, they
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  Speaker 1: got to be a romance, so they've got to be
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  Speaker 1: a romance.
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  Speaker 3: I would put Eliza s Schlessinger up there, right, She's
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  Speaker 3: lee went to one of her shows, and I've watched
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  Speaker 3: most of her specials.
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  Speaker 2: She is hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely enjoy watching She's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I know I know a woman who'd
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  Speaker 4: be really great Hallmark movie. Gilda Radner.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, she would have been good too, right, that would
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  Speaker 1: have been good too. But again, you'd have to have
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  Speaker 1: to be an AI thing to bring her back.
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  Speaker 3: Some lawyer at Hallmark is just like Oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: we would get so sued we would have to we
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  Speaker 3: would record that movie and then promptly burn it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, we might be onto something. Can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine it would be great the blue collar comedy love.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully Justin will make his way back in here. But
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  Speaker 1: you know we're reminiscenting. We're talking about, you know, great
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  Speaker 1: moment to talking about. Well, we lost Justin when he
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  Speaker 1: was talking about the photo with his dad and Larry
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  Speaker 1: the cable guy goose to him, let's talk about photos.
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  Speaker 1: We have not been able to really focus on the
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  Speaker 1: scanning project that that Sean has been involved in, involving
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  Speaker 1: the EPSOM Fast Photo six eighty Sean, how's that been going.
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  Speaker 4: So andie ever since you told me you had gotten
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  Speaker 4: it and demoed it? Right, Yes, I was pretty bent
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  Speaker 4: on anyone right. I was like, this is gonna speed
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  Speaker 4: up my process so much because I was using I
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  Speaker 4: had at the time. I have just the the V
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  Speaker 4: six hundred, the EPSOM V six hundred flatbed, which is
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  Speaker 4: which is a really good flatbat Scanner's one of the
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  Speaker 4: probably one of the top flatbat scanners you can get.
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  Speaker 4: But it's impossible because it you can only scan like
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  Speaker 4: four four x six is at a time. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and if you scan at three hundred dpi, it still
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  Speaker 4: takes five to six minutes to scan those four and
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  Speaker 4: then that's all you get and then you have to
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  Speaker 4: manually save them and it's a pain. So you had said, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: check out this scanner that I got. I demoed at
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  Speaker 4: your show on TV, and I waited, I waited, I waited,
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  Speaker 4: and finally I pulled the trigger to bought one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And they're not cheap, right, I mean yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: total from BNH photo it was like five twenty five
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  Speaker 4: or something.
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  Speaker 1: This thing is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it I'll send a video and you can put
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  Speaker 4: on the blog. It scans at six hundred dpi. A
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  Speaker 4: photo was second.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah wow, and even more if you're doing a three
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  Speaker 1: hundred deep if you're doing three hundred depey.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it's like half a second. Scan scan, scan, scan,
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  Speaker 4: Its just spits them out. So I have my grandfather,
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  Speaker 4: my grandparents photo collection, you know, I this We've talked
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  Speaker 4: about this extensively throughout the history of the show, right
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  Speaker 4: the last since twenty nineteen, since I started this project,
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  Speaker 4: and I had a ton of decades worth of loose
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  Speaker 4: four by six is with no negatives to scan. I
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  Speaker 4: just they lost the negatives. The negatives were bundled up
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  Speaker 4: with other pictures, et cetera, et cetera. So I had
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  Speaker 4: gone through and had sorted it by by decade by year,
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  Speaker 4: So the eighties, the nineties, the two thousands, of the
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  Speaker 4: twenty tens, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: This was a lot of prep that you had already
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  Speaker 1: done or you had to do that.
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  Speaker 4: No, this was already done because I didn't want it.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna sit there and scan these three four
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  Speaker 4: at a time like I was. I'd done it for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of days back in the like when I
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  Speaker 4: first started.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this sucks. Yeah, it really sucked.
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  Speaker 4: You lay them in, you flip it down a scan okay, wait,
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  Speaker 4: flip it up, take them out. Then you're goobing up
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  Speaker 4: the glass and you gotta wipe it out here your time.
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  Speaker 4: I blew through thirty eight hundred photos in the last week.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, lord, Wow, that is a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot just sitting there and you know, on my on
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  Speaker 4: my nights, or you know, just during the days I
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  Speaker 4: had off from work or whatever. You know, you bundle
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  Speaker 4: up sixty or seventy photos in a stack. It's a
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  Speaker 4: about two inch stack of photos. You line them up
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  Speaker 4: in the thing you line you know, you put the
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  Speaker 4: guides together and you hit scan and he just goes scan, scan, scan.
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  Speaker 4: It's scanning a photo a second.
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  Speaker 1: Now are you scanning it to? Now? Some people will
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  Speaker 1: scan and use their phone app to gather the photos.
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  Speaker 1: You're scanning to a computer, right is it?
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  Speaker 4: I'm just scanning directly to I have a Mac Pro
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  Speaker 4: that I've got. I've got a little work station set
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  Speaker 4: up with this scanner pugged in and it's going great.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's cool because you can can prompt you
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  Speaker 4: every time you start a batch photos, so you can
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  Speaker 4: give it give it a name, a date, a month,
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  Speaker 4: the time of the year, or just a name for
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  Speaker 4: the file, et cetera. And going through it. There are
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  Speaker 4: some some frustrations that I had some good things about it,
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  Speaker 4: and like the good thing is you can have it
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  Speaker 4: auto edit your images auto Yeah, just do a quick
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  Speaker 4: processing like red eye reduction. If it comes in crooked,
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  Speaker 4: it'll fix the crookedness. It'll do a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: like contrast.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so what if what if you have photos from
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  Speaker 1: the old days of you have the photo Matt and
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're you know, take them with a one ten
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  Speaker 1: and the color is just not as Chris, but all
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  Speaker 1: of the pictures have that same kind of look to it.
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  Speaker 1: Can it adjust all of those then in that batch.
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  Speaker 4: It can, Yeah, it'll it scans them and then when
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  Speaker 4: you're done scanning, you can either load more photos and
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  Speaker 4: scan to the same batch or tell it to finish
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  Speaker 4: and it'll process. It takes about two or three minutes
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  Speaker 4: to process about sixty photos. I don't like the auto
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  Speaker 4: the fixes. They were not good. They were some were poor,
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  Speaker 4: some were good. So then sorting through, okay, it gives
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  Speaker 4: you two files. It gives you the original, gives you
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  Speaker 4: the edited ones. So it gives you file one a
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  Speaker 4: file one B file two a file two B file,
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  Speaker 4: So you have to go through and I don't filtering
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  Speaker 4: through those is kind of a pain. So I did
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  Speaker 4: scan a lot of them like that were their doubles.
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  Speaker 4: But then I was just like, I'm not liking the results.
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  Speaker 4: So I just ended up just eventually, after probably eleven
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  Speaker 4: hundred photos, I just stopped doing the the edits. I'll
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  Speaker 4: go through, I'll go through the light room and edit
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  Speaker 4: them if I want to, Like, I'll take care of
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  Speaker 4: that anymote. Some of the other cool features that are
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  Speaker 4: on this is my grandma was very good about writing
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  Speaker 4: details on the backs of the photos.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you do in that point?
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  Speaker 4: This will scan the front and the back at the
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  Speaker 4: same time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't I didn't know that. And you can.
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  Speaker 4: Go in and you can tweak the to be more aggressive,
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  Speaker 4: meaning if it detects a little bit of handwriting, it
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  Speaker 4: might not scan it, or you can make it less
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  Speaker 4: aggressive to where it will scan the entire back even
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  Speaker 4: if there's no handwriting on it, so it scans the
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  Speaker 4: front and the backs at the same time if you
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  Speaker 4: tell it to. You can automatically tell it to, which
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  Speaker 4: is great because then it scans and then you get
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  Speaker 4: two pictures. It basically gives you, you know, file one A,
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: File one B.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: In that person in that person's writing, which I don't
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: know about you, but that's something special as well, to
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: have a grandparent or parents handwriting. You're seeing them.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually we're leeh and I are dealing with that
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: right now. One of actually she found her grandfather's handwriting
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: and got it inverted as a tattoo.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Because one of.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: His big phrases was always you be good to you.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: And she got that.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: So anytime she looks at it in the mirror, it
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: always says that to her. Now, were going through all
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: of her paternal grandmothers photos, documents, everything, desperately trying to
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: find something of her handwriting so that we can use
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: that too. She wants to possibly create another tattoo from that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it being able to actually have that digitized
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: and stored and saved is that's amazing.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: That is cool. Yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: So and it'll do like it does just more than
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: four by six I think it can. Only it only
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: has a specific like thickness it can do like it
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: can barely do postcards. But it'll do postcards. So front
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: and backs of postcards, because my grandparents sent and received
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: a lot of postcards from my family growing up. They
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: have a ton of postcards that I scan and skate
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: saved the front and the backs of all the postcards.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: So it's just was a really cool process, right the
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: one caveat I will say, if you're doing a lot
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: of pictures in a short amount of time, you have
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: to open it and clean the scanning surface.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Did you have did you have some jams.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Is some jams, and then if you have to take
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: photos out of albums, they're in plastic sleeves. That plastic
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: leaves a residue on the surface of the film. Also,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: the emulsion from the film is sticky, right that it's
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: so as you scan, if you don't open it up
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: and take some I p A and scrub it across.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Not beer, just I scroll alcohol.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, really, what kind of what kind of beer?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, would you you don't want to
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: use a hazy for that?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: An amber.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Because it's got two elements in there, up front and
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the back. And one of the albums that I had
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: taken apart was you had stuck them on in the
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: album with the adhesive like they came like that from
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: the store. But at one point I had pulled all
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: that off, so as it was going through, it was
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: rubbing that adhesive across there, and it was I ended
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: up looking at the pictures and most of them had
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: streaks because it was rolling through and then just rubbing
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: off on the glass.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So how often would you do that? I did?
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: I started doing it after every batch, so I would
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: do like sixty to eighty photos and then I would
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: clean it because then you get debris, You get oil
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: from your fring, oil from the fingertips. Oil. You know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: it just got gummed up like it. So I just
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: took hundred percent cotton lint free pad, ninety nine percent
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: alcohol scrupscub, scrub, done, grinston repeat.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So wow, how much time would you say this saved?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Saved you?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Oh? Days?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Weeks?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I mean it. I scanned so many photos and this
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: also because I had some free time I wanted. Okay,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: So now I had these files. I had all these
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: folders with the different years, the different days, and they
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: were all just in one big directory. So that I
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: was like, well, I kind of want it sorted by year.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Now what do I have to do? I have to
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: go and look at every every year that I've got.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: So well, I've been using Chatgypt and Amazon que to
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: write Python scripts for me. So all I did was
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I downloaded Visual Studio coder. Right, that's what it's called
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: m H type downloaded. The Amazon Q extension said, please
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: write me a Python three script that will take this directory.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: If it has a four digit year in it, please
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: put that in a new directory with all the other folders.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: That have the same year. Please go send put clicked
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: on the directory, told it this directory. Boom, they're all
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: on a new folder. Okay, Now I want you to
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: sort the originals and the edited once because it says,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you know, file one A, file one B. Please separate
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: those into two separate directories, one called edited, one called originals.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Go send, boom, done all.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: In Wow, in minutes.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I mean I've created I've never coded a Python in
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: my life.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe a little bit.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: So if you're interested in doing like stuff like that,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: like very simple like just file batch file naming. It
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: took me a day to get all that organized using
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: so and Amazon q will help you install the lip,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: the libs, the directories, the you know, I don't know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: So if you're curious about just doing a little bit
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: of Python coding, or if you have a little bit
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: of Python coding experience, Amazon q it's free to use.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: With the visual I can't it's visual studio vs.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Code.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah vs code.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: That's it, so all right, But you had it, you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: had a choice of going with the epsin Fast Photo
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: six eighty, which I you know, I showed showed on
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: television and loved it. It's the one you see in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the ads with Shaquille O'Neil and his mom, which I
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: think are pretty cool talking about preserving memories, or the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Visionaire because I remember you you sent me an email
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: saying Visionari it's about a hundred bucks cheaper. Did you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: did you compare the specs and just look at it
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: because epstin just seemed to offer a little more when
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it came to the software and what it was able
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: You know, I just I've had such good experience with
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: ebsin Skinner over the years, with with the with the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: V six hundred that I have, plus some EPs and
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: scanners I've had in the past, and they're they're kind
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: of up there in the terms of like the best
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: of the best, in in scanning quality and in just hardware.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: So I just pulled the trigger on with the absence,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't know enough about Visioneer. It's not a product
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: i'd heard of before. I'm sure it would have worked fine,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: but this did everything I needed it too. I bought
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: it on B and H. I have a great reputation
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: with B and H personally and professionally, so that was
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: super easy.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do now when you scanned all
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: these photos. You finished the project, will you then tell
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: your friends, Hey, you have photos you need scanned.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, so this was just my grandparents stuff, right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: So now I've got my parents are going to be
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: bringing all my child like my parents and my childhood
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: stuff in and I'm going to scan all that in too.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: So then my aunt and my uncle and Caitlin's parents
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: and like they've over the years. Over the years, it
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: hasn't just been my grandparents collection, right, I've digitized stuff
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: for Kale's family. I've digitized stuff for other friends' families,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: friends collections. Somebody says, hey, I've found these random thirty
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: five millimeter scans in my basement. Can you scan these
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: for me? Sure, it takes me twenty minutes, whatever, But
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I like the what the best part about this experience
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: for me, and I've said this before, is the tactile
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: feeling of looking and remembering memories from my childhood or
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: from my family. Yew, some of them have passed, right,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: So seeing these pictures like, oh, it's my grandpa, it's great.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Like here, I've got this picture of my grandparents right
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: here that I scanned it. It was just happened to be
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: sitting on my desk.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: This is awesome for me because I this is a
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: physical picture. I can feel this right. Somebody in my
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: family took this picture and it represents me and my
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: family and you know, my loved ones. So that's been
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the best part of this whole process, is just filtering
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: through and organizing the photos and looking at this, going okay,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: these are of my uncles from the eighties. I wasn't
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: born wow, right, but it's like he these are memories
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: for him. So now I just I periodically. I've saved
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: the one some of the best ones in a folder
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: and I'll periodically just send them to those family members
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: in text messages.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I've mailed them, right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm just surprising people with little life moments like that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: You'd be surprised how often that comes up, going hey
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I love that picture, by the way, or hey, you
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: know it made me cry that you sent a picture
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: of Papa saying my name on my birthday back when
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I was two years old and he passed away ten
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: years ago.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: It's also kind of special too, because I mean digital
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: is nice, and yeah, you could you could scan it
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: send a digital You could also have you got a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: good printer, you could also print it and that way
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: people would actually have a physical copy of that picture.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that this, this scanner does not
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: like glossy printed photos, like if you took an inkjet
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: and printed it on photo paper, you know, you get
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: that really thick paper, the really glossy, almost yeah stocky
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: type stuff. This hated it because my grandparents had some
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: of that and you could tell it would make squeaking
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: noises when it pulled the paper through. It definitely did
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: not like that. So yeah, no, it's just it's been
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: a great experience, and some of the feedback that I've
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: gotten from other family members has been that, you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: not everybody would take the time to do this. This
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: was a very labor intensive thing that I did, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of it took place during COVID, so I
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: had a lot of extra time to do it. But
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: it's just not a lot of people would do that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's a very fulfilling family project, which is what it's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and episod has made it a little easier for you,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: which is part.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this was like, this saved the end of this
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: project because I was never going to get that done
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: because I I'm not joking like it. It was a
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it was a pain in the rear end to flip
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: that scanner down to do four at a time, five
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: to six minutes, eight minutes to yeah, four pictures and
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: this was cranking out sixty a minute.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Wow. We'll put the video up on our blog. Listeners
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: can take a look at that as well to see
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: just how fast this is. But once and it's the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Epstom Fast Fast Photo six eighty W which is available now.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It came out probably about seven or eight months ago,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and all.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: The software is free, so just downloaded from Resin's website.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: It was I was going in minutes.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: There you go. All right, we're gonna take quick break,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: come back. We have listened to questions. I've got a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: question for you, guys. Maybe you can help me with
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: something that I've decided to jump into the Windows eleven
• 25:23
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• 25:25
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• 25:29
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• 25:38
  Speaker 1: All right, So when it comes to Windows eleven, which
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: is in October, that will be the end of life
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: for Windows ten, as they say it now. Don't let
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that scare you. You need a lot of people talking
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: about that, this end of life and right away you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: gonna think, oh my gosh, my computer is gonna just
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: stop working. It's not gonna do anything. That's not the case.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It means you're not gonna get the security updates. We've
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: seen this before. Microsoft is saying you could pay for updates.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They might make that available. If there is an update
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that is I mean going to be really needed, they
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: may still put one out. They did that before with XP.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: They did that with Windows seven, when they said that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: was in the end of life, they put one out.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But as we continue to go down this road with
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Windows eleven, those that do have it have done updates
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and have been nothing but disappointed. Updates that have gotten
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: rid of certain features like WordPad. Of course, you're very
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: easy to bring back, but they at rid of it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Why I have no clue. I don't know. Is it
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: so that people would go ahead and start using their
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: office suite. The other problem that I found is networking,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and some have tried to find a work around to that,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and I just discovered it the other day what the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: real problem was. So I have a studio that is
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: separate that I'm in right now from an office, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in the office is where I do all my editing.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I'll have people coming and record in the studio, or
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: we'll record the show. I'll go into the office, where
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it's a little more comfortable, and I'll do my editing
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in there. And it used to be I saved it
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: on a shared folder and I would go in the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: other room and I could pull that folder across and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: do the editing I needed. As soon as I installed
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: one of the twenty four to EH two, I think
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: it was I couldn't do that anymore. Couldn't access the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: other computers, couldn't find them, couldn't see them. It was
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: just it was so frustrating. And I know there's probably
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a quick workaround and easy work around, but it was
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: working for me. So the other day I went to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: update Gloria's computer in her office and I left it on,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and when I sat down on my computer, all of
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a sudden, her computer was showing up on my list
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of network computers. Her computer's Windows eleven, so that's what
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it is. It only working with Windows eleven based computers.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: It'll show my laptop and it'll show that and that's it,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and I could connect to it. So I decided, all
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: right for the studio, just for the sake of making
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it easier, I'm going to go ahead and bite the bullet.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I've got an I three in here. Now. That is
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: an older I three processor that you know it's it's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it's not the newest. I can't upgrade it. There's not
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: TPM two point zero in it. It's an old motherboard.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: So I decided to go ahead. I had a seven
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Z seven ninety for Asus that I said, okay, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: might as well go ahead and update it, and so
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I have that board there. I went ahead and I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: ordered an I five twelve four to end from Intel.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They were only one hundred and eleven bucks, right, I thought,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that's not a bad price. Bought the memory and a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: sound card, and that's going to be used just for
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: our recordings. But one of the things I noticed, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I have a big old fan, I didn't really want
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to use that big old fan for it because it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: not a powerhouse system. It's just recording audio. But the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: process sorrey I bought even came with the Intel fan,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and you know some of us have bought processors that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: come with the fan. But I noticed on the bottom
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of the fan you get three strips of heat sync
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: or you know, past thermal paste. But I'm thinking is
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that enough? So I wanted to ask you, guys, should
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I put more thermal paste on the processor and not
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: rely on the three strips well that you get on
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the fan. First off, you need to scrape that off
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and get better thermal paste. All right, all right, you
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: think metal, I can remember what is it? Is it
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: liquid thermal or what is it? Yeah? I think it is.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It comes at a little white bottle. Well, they are
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: all kinds of different ones now, but it's basically it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: basically liquid metal. That's what you want. That stuff. It's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: not gonna work. Now. I had all work, but it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: not gonna be great. Every time I've done a build,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I scrape off that carefully. You don't want to use
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like a metal scraper, right, you know, you can use
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a razorblade, but you gotta be careful about the the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: angle that you scrape it off of because you don't
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: want to scratch the actual heat sink, but scrape it off,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: get it cleaned off, use some alcohol to get the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: residue off, and then put fresh like liquid metal thermal
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: paste on it. It's gonna be much better. I actually
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: have a it's almost like I want to say, a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: degreaser for thermal paste. It's made just for that for
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: removing thermal paste from processors. So I could probably use
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that on here as well. Put it on you can.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: You can use that on there. Justin's on Team liquid Metal.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I've been using a nock to a you know, king
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: of computer cooling for so long.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Came out with theirs.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: They have a noc to a nt H one, which
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: is their version of thermal paste. Before that, I was
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: using cry a not but yeah, the stuff that you
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: have on there, like, yes, it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Will work, right, but within a year.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You're gonna start seeing temperatures starting to spike and you're
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: gonna have to go do it anyways.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Right, might as well do it before I before I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: connect it right.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And then and then you left out the big question,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: the truly divisive question.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Do you do a pe sized dot? Do you do
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the X? Do you do the box?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: How do you apply your.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: This question just came up in one of my discord
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: groups of a buddy who's rebuilding his PC, and he said, hey,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: what are the recommendations for how to apply a thorough pace?
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: And every everybody gave a different answer. Really, I'm on
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: team you put a dot in the middle and you
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: spread it out evenly across the whole surface.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Yep, Now how do you spread it? How do you
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: spread it out? Though?
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: You usually come with a little spade that you can
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: a little plastic spade that you can use. But I
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: just put a nice even coding around it. Around the edge.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: You can't see the writing on the top of the processor.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: It's worked fine for every bill I've done. Yeah, I always,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: But that's that's a cardinal sin for some people.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some people think they put so much
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: thermal they you squeeze it and then it's coming off
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the sides and everything, and what are you doing?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still want that no thermal.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: This is one of those where like you want to
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: start a nerd fight in microcenter with like one sentence,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you just like there's only one right way to put
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: on thermal paste, and it's and just say whatever it
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: is and whatever you feel like saying that day and
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you like mirror cats popping up, You'll see people being like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: do you say she says she used the dot? He
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: said no, no, no, you got to use the X. No, man,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you gotta spread it out.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: No, you gotta do the box.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And then you walk away as you've sown chaos in
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: your wake.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: All right, So Matt, so Sean says he likes the dot.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Do you have a particular method?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I do the dot, and then, like Sean, I do
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: like a gentle coat, but I don't.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Take it all the way to the edge.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I leave just kind of like a little border gap
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: just so because I know it's still gonna squish a
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: little bit. So I give it just like a little
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: bit of room to move out. And I recently had
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to do that three different times when building this server
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: racks up because we we got Lee's all set up
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: and then found out that my old motherboard was dead right,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And at that point, when you have to do it
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: that many times in a short spin, you get.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Really good with thermal pains. Like justin what about you,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of team dot on Team dot, I mean, yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: team Dot. Use a little spades, spread it around if
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: there's a tiny bit of it that you know doesn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: get quite covered, I'll put a tiny little bit on.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: But honestly, with with when it comes to like thermal paste,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: it's less is more. Yeah, yeah, now now.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Less is more because again, the same person that we
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: were talking about by discor group had an issue where
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: when he pulled tried to pull the cooler off and
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: pull the CPU out. Right, he had it loose, He
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: had it loose, but because it had baked down there
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: for so long, it didn't separate from the cooler. So
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: off the recommend the recommend No, it didn't damage anything,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: but thankfully, but the recommendation is either fire up your
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: computer for a minute or two to let the CPU
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: warm up, or if it's already out, you can use
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: a hair dryer or a heat gun and just heat
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: it up a little bit and hopefully break it free.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: But just just be careful when you do that because
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: if you are pulling on the cooler and this it
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: is not coming off the CPU and you're still locked
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: in place, you have to be careful because you could
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: rip it out and rip out pins or damage the socket,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: the l l G A or whatever.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Right, So next big question too is going to be
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what do you do with the old computer? Then? And
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people gonna be maybe going that route,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: going to buying a new system, building their own.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I have a nice shelf back here, I can put
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: all your spar computer.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if any, if any listeners are like I don't
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: know what to do with my computer, You've got four
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: guys that you're listening to who will gladly give your
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: wayward computers a home.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Actually, I actually just started a project because, as you
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: guys know, I've been unemployed for a while. I thankfully
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: finally landed something. But in the meantime I started building
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: a really like enterprise grade home.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Lind Right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: So I took an old computer, you know.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Wiped out.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: It's got like twelve terabytes of storage on there. It's
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it used to be my media server. And I've got
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: two other ones, two smaller machines. I've installed proxmocks, which
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: is a virtualization platform on all of them. They all
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: talk to each other, and I'm just setting everything up
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: like I'm messing with stuff that I've never gotten to
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: do or play with in my professional career. I'm playing
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: with Kubernetes and Docker, and terraform and ansible and screaming
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: curse words deep into the night as it's like everything's
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: working except DNS isn't quite working, and I'm like, okay,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: DNS is never working, so thank you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: That's that's fantastic.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: That's so.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: That's always Another good one for old computers is if
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: you just like, just google what can I do with
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: an old computer, and you'll have this slew of projects
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: come up. I mean, Justin's got a really cool home
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: assistant set up. That's right, that people could you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: you you need some computer know how, but I mean,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: that's that's really really cool, right, Yeah, smart homes are
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: really cool.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And honestly, you know, home assistant has gotten a lot
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: easier over the years. You know, when I started getting
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: into home assistant, you were still writing in Yamel code,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: which now you don't have to do that anymore. Most
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: of the you know, ninety five percent of the stuff
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you can do in home assistant is is through the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: web UI. But yeah, it does it does require a
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: little bit of a know how. Yeah right. Well. PC
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: World put out a story recently too about this you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: upcoming end of life for Windows ten and they were
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: offering up some alternatives. And I was reading the article
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and I thought about it. Uh, and they had these
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: these alternates. They said, you could continue to run Windows
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: ten if you wanted. You could pay for upgrades to Microsoft.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: No idea what they're going to charge for that. Are
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: they going to charge five dollars a month, you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: or or something like that. Or you could say goodbye
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: to Microsoft and run Linux. The problem is you say
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that to most people and they will run the other
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: way because they have no idea how easy Linux is
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to actually employ. They think it's something that only you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Neutron would end up being able to do, when
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: actually it's really not that difficult. Well, even in the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: past like year or so, I mean now that Linux
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: has come out with Linux Mint and other other variations
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: of Linux that are almost replicas of Microsoft Windows with
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: no command line needed. You know, people people think Linux
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, I got to be
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a hacker. I got a no command line not anymore? No,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: there you still can you sin? Yeah?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you really want to be a hacker,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: you can install Collie Linux. That's that's a Linux distro
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: built for penetration testing. But if you're if you're an
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: end user, you know, John Q Public looking to dabble
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: in Linux.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: The three most.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Accessible distros, and when I say distros for listeners, that's
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: short for distributions because Linux comes in so many different varieties.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: But the three most accessible distros are mint, Arch and Ubuntu, U,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: b U and t U. Those three are almost as
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: justin put it, they're almost carbon copies of Windows. It's
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: a very very small learning curve to get into that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The one I hear, just one I tried it
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was wind Boon too, and I thought that was pretty cool.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's another great one.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you might have a slight learning curve with it,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: very small, but it overall they're if you're just you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: web browsing email, maybe checking it, you know, maybe hit
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: up Netflix or something like that, then those distros would
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: easily take care of your issues. And Linux because it
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: it is a much lighter operating system in the way
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: it does things that even older computers will seem lightning
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: fast on any of those distributions like Windows. Windows does
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: this thing called a graceful shut down. It calmly asks
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: everything to turn off. Linux rags everything into a back
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: alley and puts around in it and says you're done.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: That's Windows. That's a yeah, that's a beautiful way of
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: putting it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Windows is like, can you please turn off? And Lennox
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: is like, I'm gonna have to old yell.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Are you I'm sorry? Yeah? Windows, Windows, You're like, you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: can you please tell me? You're like, no, no, I'm not.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit here and wait and you're gonna
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: be waiting for me to reboot. All right, we got
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to take another break. We come back with more of
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: tech talk Radio. You make that fake, keep making that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: face justin no, no, I'm not and why.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: And see I see that face way too much with
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: my kids right now. I don't want to.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, more of tech talk Radio the way.
• 39:42
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• 39:52
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  Speaker 1: back now. Back to Tech talk Radio.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Listener question from Ricky in Tucson. A listen every week
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and try to absorb everything I can. I decided to
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: go ahead and instead of buying an hPer pre built system,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to go my way and build my own. However, it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: been a wise, very nice good first off, good choice, Ricky.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the site.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You guys recommended PC parts picker. But wonder do I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: still need to buy a separate sound card and graphics
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: card or can I get them integrated? That is a
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: fantastic question, Ricky, And I'm going to break it into
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: three parts. The first one's gonna be nice and quick.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Do I still need a sound card? No, you do
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: not need a sound card. I have not rocked a
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: sound card in probably close to a dead unless you're
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: like an audio file or doing audio engineering.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: If you really need like high quality audio, which ninety
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: nine point five percent of us don't, the onboard audio
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: is just fine, it'll take care of you. As for
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: the graphics card and can I get them integrated? It
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: used to be that pretty much every processor came with
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: some form of integrated graphics. Around about four or five
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: years ago, chip manufacturers started chopping that feature out, And
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: the reason that they were chopping that out is to
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: get more room on the die, more cores, more power
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: you now need if you want to do integrated graphics,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: you have to make sure that you're looking on the
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: details of the processor and see if it has an
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: integrated graphics unit. If it has one of those, you
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: can definitely use that. That'll power your system. That's more
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: than fine. AMD used to use something. They didn't call
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: it a CPU. They called it an APU, an accelerated
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: processing unit, and it came with both. I recommendation, if
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: you're just using this for general everyday use, surfing the web,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: things like that, yeah, you can do that. I'm a
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: fan of the graphics card because that frees up a
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: lot of the thinking power to solely be done by
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: your CPU. It's not doing any rendering or anything like that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: So I would recommend you get a graphics card instead
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: of going the integrated route.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Would Ricky, Would Ricky need to go Matt all the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: way to the fifty ninety or fifty.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I mean I saw that, I was no, I was
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: about to touch on that. If you are gaming, you
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: absolutely need a graphics card. If you are not a
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: PC gamer, you do not need to be buying the
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: new Nvidia fifty seventy fifty ninety or the Radion you know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: seventy nine hundred.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: XTX like you don't.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: You don't need to be spending you know eight nine
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: eight nine hundred one thousand dollars on a graphics card,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: just like a a low to mid level will take
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: care of you, just find so to summarize all that, No,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: you don't need a graphics card. Depending on what you're using,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: you can go integrated. Just make sure that the processor
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you buy has an integrated graphics you feature to it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And I still would wreck amend going for a what's
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: called a discrete graphics card. That's that's just buying a
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: GPU and depending on what you're doing, tailor it to
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: your budget.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm wondering he's going through PC parts Picker.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Can't you go on to that site and actually say, well,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: here's what I want processor wise, here's what I want
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: motherboard size, and it can pair up some of the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: things like it may pair up it price range for
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: a graphics card on the lower end, and then of
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: course one on the upper end, and then of course
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you have memory up Like.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I like about PC part Picker is
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: that you have a compatible check mark, right, so whatever
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: you toss in, it's only going to recommend you compatible parts.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Well, this was the entire reason behind the guy that
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: created PC part picker was because he would build PCs
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: over and over again only to find that half the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: parts that he bought were not compatible with each other.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: So he actually quit. Well, he started the process, he
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: started the whole project, the PC part picker as a
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: side gig, but then it got to the point where
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: he was able to actually quit his job, as I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: think it was a software engineer to do PC part
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: picker full time because this was becoming such a huge
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: issue for people that wanted to build PCs, was that
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: they did not know what pieces fit together.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: We jokes that like building a PC as like adult
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: legos at this point, like you know, this slot goes,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: this thing goes into this matching slot. But then we
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: have new technology that's come out that, while has provided benefits,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: has also added in complications. You now have memory memory,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: which used to just be like I need to make
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: sure that the memory is compatible with my motherboard for
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: like type in speed. Do I have a DDR four motherboard?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Do I have a DDR three motherboard? Now you need
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: to look and be like, oh, do I have an
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Intel board? I need to buy the Intel memory feature
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: compatible RAM. Do I have an AMD motherboard? Then I
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: need to buy the AMD feature which is called Expo
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: compatible RAM.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Other Wise you.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Don't get that feature.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And it's just one more thing that that little compatibility
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: check mark is going to save your bacon. Because I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I'm a tech guy, but I'm not reading every single
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: tech blog, every single update that's coming out. And when
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I was rebuilding a PC recently, I was like, what
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: is the a MD compatible RAM versus the Intel compatible RAM?
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I felt like, mister incredible, Like math is mass?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: RAM is RAM? Like what is going on?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget too. Depending on the board that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Ricky's gonna get from PC parts Picker, he'll also have
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to make a decision what does he want to do
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: as far as storage. Does he want to run the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: M two? Does he want to run SSD or does
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: he want to go old school and run you know,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a spinney? They still tell him, I mean, which which
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: route is going to be the best for him to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: go to?
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I mean most motherboards now are coming with minimum to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: of the M two slots, And to be honest, like
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: that's that's the only direction I'd be going at this point.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Like it, oh oh, I just just all right, justin
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm just gonna say, I just well, no,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I agree with Matt because I'm saying, if you're going
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: to build a brand new computer with today's technology and
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: still run a spinny drive, that's like you buying a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Ferrari and put an e eighty five ethanol gas into it,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you're not wrong.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: He's not wrong at all wrong.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: And M DOT two's run on a much much faster
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: interface because for drives, the the big bottleneck. You know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: you can have the fastest processor, the best graphics card,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: enough ramnet choke a donkey, and if you're running on
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: a spinner drive that's got like then you're you're running
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: into a bottleneck of how fast your data can be
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: written and red and the fastest speed it's or on
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: MT two drives.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I was talking about to this is somebody the other
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: day and they were trying to tell me that M
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: two is less uh, it has less of a life
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: than an SSD, an actual you know SSD chip or
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: not chip, but drive in your computer. And I said,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: where did you get that info from? They said, no, no,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: we're they're seeing stories that the M two's are failing
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: at a higher rate than SSDs. And I thought, is
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that the case. Have you guys heard anything about that.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm brutal to my hard drives.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to my storage drives, and I haven't seen
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: anything like that.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's got to be user error, because
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I could feel like somebody just jamming it in there
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: and breaking it. That's going to be the number one.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: We're putting it there and not putting the screw, We're putting.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: It upside down, or not putting the standoff in or
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: something stuff like that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's to go back to something that Sean said
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: earlier about like when you're taking the CPU cooler off
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: and if you're like if you're starting to like really
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: pull on it and it's going not going anywhere.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: When you are building.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Or disassembling a computer and you are having to force something,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: you are not doing.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: It right, I add more force. I did that. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: did that too. I did that to Glorious System when
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I was building it. I could not get this thing
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: out of the socket, the cord that was in there,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and I was trying to get it to move it around,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and I pulled so hard I pulled it right off
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the motherboard, the entire housing. So I was like, well,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that's not going to work.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Let me look, I'm going to microcenter.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Well, it didn't damage the board. I just ended up
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: buying a card and using that instead a plugging card,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: so it cost me an extra thirty bucks. But I'll
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: tell you Samsung has actually just announced their new and
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel about Samsung's SSDs
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: or their M two's, but they've got one that they're
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: saying is now the world's fastest consumer drive fourteen point
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: eight gigabits per second. They're saying a PCIe five point
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: storage that will be available and it's going to sell
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: starting at one ninety nine ninety nine. No, I don't
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: know what that capacity is. And it comes with a
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: five year warranty, so, I mean five years is pretty good.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: You just mentioned that the fourteen gig read writes. Yeah, right, okay,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: so we're talking about if you want to get a
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: spinny drive versus an M two.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, what's the difference.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I looked up what the average like a read write
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: speed for a seventy two hundred rpm drive is. It's
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: anywhere between one hundreds two hundred megabytes per second. Oh man, Okay,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: your low at your low end M two NVMe drive
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: is one to two and a half gigs, and this
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: is fourteen one thousand to two hundred one thousand to
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: twenty five hundred megabytes per second. So that's a literal
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: likely close to one hundred times or five to ten
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: times faster.
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  Speaker 3: Just it's literally an order of magnitude in difference.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: There. There you go, Yeah, you will you will see.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: It feel a difference in your performance. And there's no
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: reason when some of them drives are still the same
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: price as one terabyte and VMEs.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: And a Spinny drive is gonna die way before an
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: SSD or an envm E because it's got mechanical components.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Like we talked about Andy well shows ago where he's like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I put in the drive and it started making a
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: clicking noise.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: All three of us were like, oh no, Like there
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: is a mechanical component to the Spinney drives. It's gonna
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: wear out. It is gonna die. It is not a
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: question of if. It is a question of when.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I'm still debating on whether I'm gonna send that drive in.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I bought the back, secondary, backup drive that they could
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: put it on, but seven hundred dollars. It's a great
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: deal that he's given me. But do I really want
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the data that much?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Take it apart and use the magnets.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ooh.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: The magnets are super fun to play.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: With the best. You can't get them off anything once
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you put them on. Like I went on my file cabinet,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: can't move it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I take I take the magnets out, and I make
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: wind chimes with the platters. Oh.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: There, and the wind chimes you make with the platters
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: because of how it reflects the light will actually attract
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: butterflies and honeybees.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Oh really, Well, there you go.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: If you want to know why I know this, justin
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you've met my wife. Does that shock you at all
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: that I know how to attract honeybees and butterflies?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: No? It doesn't. Yeah, all right, actly, We got to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: take another quick break. We come back with more of
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• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, I'm Matt Jones, and
• 51:47
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• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and now fact to tech Talk Radio.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: So I was on my phone in my pixel watch because,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: as we've discussed before, I live the Pixel ecosystem, and
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I got to notice that. It was like, hey, Pixel
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: is making a change to your emergency SOS. You now
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: have to push this button five times and then confirm
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: to activate it. If I am in a car crash
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: bleeding out, how do you think I'm gonna be able
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: to click a button and then confirm it five times?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Hold on, leaking, femeral artery, give me one second.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Is there a reason why Pixel said, Uh, let's add
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of more of those button pushes just before
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the SOS goes out.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: The emergency feature is like, so the pixel phones have
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: like detect car crash like because it's got g sensor
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: in it. And I'll be like, okay, you were doing
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: sixty miles an hour, and then a millisecond later you
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: were doing zero miles an hour. And as Jeremy Clarkson said,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: it's not going fast that has ever killed anyone.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: It's the sudden stop that usually does it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: So your phone will detect your car crash, or the
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: pixel watch can detect when you have a nasty fall.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: It's things where like you might be incapacitated, so we're gonna,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: we're gonna SOS for you. But then you might have
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: some case where you're walking around at night, someone's following you,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: and you want to like get the SOS feature going
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: notify your family. So I'm like, why did they do this?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: And then I look and find out that threw a
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: mistake with the SOS. A gentleman's pictures of a sensitive
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: scantily clad nature.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Might have gone on a wide digital journey thanks to
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the SOS.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: So something happened and he didn't realize it, and it
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: sent out images that he probably would be very embarrassed at.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe I was saying maybe because you never know what
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: people these days.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: You don't, but I sure would have been like, imagine
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: getting that note because like when I when my if
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: my SOS triggers, my wife and my parents all get
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: a notification about it. Uh, imagine being on the receiving
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: end of that, like your husband has had a nasty
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: fall and send out in SOS. Oh my goodness, let
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: me look at Andy's naked.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: What type of ball did he take?
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Google? Can you can I get more details on this?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Because it is not a good.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Look, Sean. You're an Apple guy. The iPhone does the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: same thing, but does it send out like a picture
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: or a text message.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I honestly have no idea. I've never looked into it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine it would.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: But please please do not put us on your list
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: if you do that, Sean.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, here the top of the list.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Of is shown.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: If anything happens to you, just know that you know
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: thoughts and prayers.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: And I wish you the best, but I don't need to.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Know, all right. So that's why you have the extra
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: buttons on the pixel. The emergency s O S that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you need to set up when you get your device
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: to who you wanted to text a case of something
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: happening to you, so in case you get lost somewhere,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: or in case you need somebody to bring you some pants,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: so s I need I don't even know where to
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: go for all right. That is it for this week's
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Shonda Weird.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I'm Matt Jones. I'm gonna get banned.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, and I'm justin let me find us
• 55:19
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• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Have yourselves a great week. We'll see you