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Winter Games Special! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. This is a special special episode. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell that you, uh you really excited this
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  Speaker 1: episode because Winter Games just meant a lot to you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I meant a lot for me too, because
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  Speaker 1: we both got to do it together. Um but I
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  Speaker 1: think you saw Winter Games as a special opportunity going
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  Speaker 1: into it more than maybe anybody else. Am I right?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was my opportunity to change my storyline,
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  Speaker 1: um like, to get away from the caricature that was
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  Speaker 1: developed around me and crying Ashley like crying Leyeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was like all I was was crying dramatic, uh starting
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  Speaker 1: you know, being I don't but I don't always had
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  Speaker 1: drama with a girl. I don't want to ruin this
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  Speaker 1: for you. But up until maybe a year ago, not
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  Speaker 1: that you were dramatic with the girl. That that is
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  Speaker 1: not actually I've ever seen thank you, thank you. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it exists. But up until a year ago,
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  Speaker 1: the crying actually is a very accurate an accurate character
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  Speaker 1: of who you are. Yeah, totally, And according to the
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  Speaker 1: Winter Games promos, it continues. Yeah, but Ben, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: interesting because uh, I don't know if it's gonna make air.
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  Speaker 1: But when you had me crying there at the picnic
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  Speaker 1: table in the kitchen, you go, I've known you for
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  Speaker 1: two and a half years and I've never seen you
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  Speaker 1: cry in real life with me? What is it about
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  Speaker 1: this show that brings it out in you? I have
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  Speaker 1: no idea. But our guest that's in the line right
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  Speaker 1: now might have an idea because he's known you for well.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Bigger, Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: having me, guys. How you doing it? We're good? How
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? Oh man, I'm just about to walk
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  Speaker 1: into a class like probably like sixty people got a
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  Speaker 1: fitness class on out here in Colgate University, so we fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. You told me you're going to be out
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  Speaker 1: east again. Well, um, Eric, tell us about what Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Winter Games meant to you, and like what kind of
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  Speaker 1: mindset you wanted to go into it, how you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to change the way you're viewed from the Bachelorette season
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  Speaker 1: going into this, I mean a Bachelor one of the games.
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  Speaker 1: It was just something new, something different. Um. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of compared it to uh, Bachelor in Paradise, which I've
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  Speaker 1: never done before. So I didn't have no game plan
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  Speaker 1: because I never did that, but it was up in
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  Speaker 1: the code is never mind. I knew a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the casts from the Vatican was gonna be there, international people,
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  Speaker 1: so I was just open. I had an open mind
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  Speaker 1: and just one of the if things was going to
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  Speaker 1: happen or gather in place with the show, it was great.
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  Speaker 1: My attention was just to be open, have fun people.
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  Speaker 1: You just mentioned you were going into a workout class
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  Speaker 1: right now you are Mr Fitness. Did that have that
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  Speaker 1: I play a role in your decision to do this show,
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  Speaker 1: that you're a competitive sports guy. Yeah, honestly, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Front fact I did hire a trainer. Um, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was hired a trainer. Yes, so I was trained twice
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  Speaker 1: week because, like I said, I think that was to
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  Speaker 1: expect I thought, you know, it's really crazy, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you know a lot of things, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: really so I wanted my body, my mind, everything to
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  Speaker 1: be ready and prepared for whatever was coming. So that much. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my dad actually thought I was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: train like an Olympic athlete. Like in August, my Dad's like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you going to the gym every day? You know?
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  Speaker 1: How it's lotically competitive, you're gonna have to be and
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  Speaker 1: like Dad, I think you're crazy. I think this show
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  Speaker 1: will I'll have to be like in shape so I
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  Speaker 1: don't get out of breath walking up a hill. Buddy,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think I'll be okay if if I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm out of breath going up two hills. I was
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  Speaker 1: so I want to get be compared. I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to fail that any our case. So I was shot.
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  Speaker 1: If you're ready, So I had a you know, I
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  Speaker 1: remember one day specifically in the house during Winter Games.
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  Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning, I'm brushing my teeth. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I look over and Eric is doing push ups and
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  Speaker 1: his muscles are popping out of places that I've never
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  Speaker 1: seeing anybody's must stop and I asked him how he
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  Speaker 1: does it, and so Eric puts me through about a
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  Speaker 1: two D push up workout that morning. I was sore
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of the time on Winter Games. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not kidding. I could not lift myself up out of bed. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: if it doesn't challenge here, it doesn't change here. It's
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  Speaker 1: all about that break through. What you did, and you
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  Speaker 1: got it done, so hopefully you still a strong in
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  Speaker 1: front of two push ups than you should. You should
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  Speaker 1: see me now, Eric, I'm already take off my shirt
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  Speaker 1: and so actually I'm rich. No shirt season HIGs your
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  Speaker 1: shirts off? Hey, Eric, So you may be good at
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  Speaker 1: push ups, but are you good at skiing? I'm really
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  Speaker 1: not good at skiing. I will be honest. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: good at skin that is, I'm very bad. But I
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  Speaker 1: can own it. I accept it, and it's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever been on skis before the Bachelor Winter Games?
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  Speaker 1: I had not been never have our ever been on
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  Speaker 1: skis before the Bachelor Win Game ever in my life,
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  Speaker 1: So this is a new new news for me. So
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  Speaker 1: do you ever plan on getting back on them? I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I do. I mean neither. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you can have that going into the Bachelor Winter Games.
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  Speaker 1: As as basically any Bachelor's put off show like Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: the producers ask you which girls are you hoping to
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  Speaker 1: see there? Which girls were you hoping to see? Who
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  Speaker 1: was on your list? Vanessa because she's from she's from Montreal.
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  Speaker 1: It's not I'm like, it would be cool to have
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  Speaker 1: on um Beta dilly bt. I mean, those those women
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  Speaker 1: pique my interest, So I was like, why not you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they were all I would be. I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to stay there, you know, so that over my two
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  Speaker 1: that I had in mind for sure. You know both
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  Speaker 1: those ladies live in l A. And you can just
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  Speaker 1: see the mouth camera as well. You're gonna set it
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  Speaker 1: up as Okay, the numbers, well, the cast for the
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  Speaker 1: Winter Games has been an out and neither Becca or
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  Speaker 1: Vanessa were announced as the cast. So I'm sorry, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: winter Games must have not been as fun for you
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  Speaker 1: as she thought. It was fun. It just wasn't what
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  Speaker 1: I thought, and it was okay. I still made a
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  Speaker 1: great connection. It's a great friendship. It was amazing. I
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  Speaker 1: had a great time. Good. Hey, I know you gotta go,
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  Speaker 1: but I got one last question. You um you know
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  Speaker 1: where I'm crying in the promo saying Limel is friend zoned.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so confused. You said that I friend zoned you
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  Speaker 1: when we first met collaboration. Yeah, I think you did
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  Speaker 1: friend zone me. I actually I think I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of self the energy that I was
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  Speaker 1: like everything is just a friend. I'm not really, I
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  Speaker 1: don't we're not even I don't see him at that level.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I felt. I could be wrong, but
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  Speaker 1: the energy I was getting was like, I'm a friend.
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  Speaker 1: You say you just a friend, just a friend. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're just friends. But it's all good with great friends.
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  Speaker 1: So I appreciate you as you're amazing. You done great energy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what you're doing a camrathon. But yeah, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: but good thanks Eric? Hey, Eric, you are the man.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you. I appreciate you, a great guy. I've
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed getting to know you. Thank you for coming on
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  Speaker 1: our podcast once again. And good look out there at Colgate.
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  Speaker 1: Uh will make some other people sore right now? Well, manute,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Bett, thank you asked me, Thank you, Howard
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  Speaker 1: you guys go, I'll talk to you sating Gate. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go alright up next, we have one of America's favorite
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  Speaker 1: contestants and I was so excited to meet her. I
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  Speaker 1: think we all love her, we all want the absolute
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  Speaker 1: best for her. Claire. Are you out there? Claire? Miss
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  Speaker 1: your voice? And oh my god, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you know right now? So you have one right now?
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  Speaker 1: Strep throat? Oh no, I know, I know, but it's
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  Speaker 1: on time. On the upswing, how are you guys saying?
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  Speaker 1: We're great? Yes, I have the flu. Actually, also, Claire,
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  Speaker 1: you've been sick now for a while. Um, I hope
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  Speaker 1: you get better. This is not good, But I have
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  Speaker 1: had the flu myself, as the listeners have have been
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  Speaker 1: able to tell over the last week, I've been stuffy. Uh, Claire,
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  Speaker 1: we we gotta get into Winter Games. America is ecstatic.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding. Once the cast was announced,
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  Speaker 1: I think actually I can both attest that our Twitter's
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  Speaker 1: filled up with Oh my gosh, Claire's coming on Winter Games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see here again. So from all
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  Speaker 1: of us, tell us, what was your hope going in
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  Speaker 1: the Winter Games? Okay, so that I say it lets
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  Speaker 1: me feel good because I pretty going. Oh we've seen
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  Speaker 1: the cold times, get a life, Claire. But you and
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  Speaker 1: I are tied, right, I think? I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: was so excited going into this. I think the best
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  Speaker 1: thing for me going into this, which was different than
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  Speaker 1: all the other shows, was that I didn't have any expectations. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I really really just wanted to go how of a
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  Speaker 1: blast and everybody see everybody that I've seen before. You
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  Speaker 1: asked me hang out with you guys, just have a
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  Speaker 1: good time. I think there's no expectations. That's kind of
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  Speaker 1: when the best things happening, you know, yeah, let down.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think like, oh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess real hardcore fans would be like, oh, Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and Claire on the same season together. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: they'll have beef because we had. I guess we had
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  Speaker 1: a little bad blood between us during Bachelor and Paradise
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  Speaker 1: season two because Jared asked you on a date after
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  Speaker 1: he and I had already gone on a date, and
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  Speaker 1: I made fun of you a bit. I made some
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  Speaker 1: insensitive comments that I absolutely regret, and I was young
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  Speaker 1: and immature and stupid. But but we and not you
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  Speaker 1: and I got really close this season. Uh you were
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  Speaker 1: you made me feel homey. You really did like you
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  Speaker 1: just were really great support system and a good person
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  Speaker 1: I could vent to. That's a really good to say.
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  Speaker 1: I thank you so much. It's so funny because it's
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  Speaker 1: like people see the shows and they go, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: even tat this person I see two minutes or two comments.
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  Speaker 1: But I always laughed because it's like, yeah, I probably did.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I did say that comments. But it was
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  Speaker 1: like when I was Hily in Grugby in stress and
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  Speaker 1: probably no sleep. So all that stuff. I think within
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  Speaker 1: the fast formation we understand on my others, like there's
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  Speaker 1: no bad, bad blood on any level. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: why it was easy to fallen back into like the
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  Speaker 1: friendship with me, because it's so understandable of that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I agree. When you've got in the car
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  Speaker 1: and I first saw you before we did the parade,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, we're good, We're gonna do this great,
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna be one of my best friends in the house.
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  Speaker 1: I just knew that Raff the bat and then we'd
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  Speaker 1: like talk the entire press ride and we're yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was really really thankful you were there. Oh I
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  Speaker 1: it's always thinking sweet, it's always it's always fun to
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  Speaker 1: see like similiar faces and people you know and love.
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  Speaker 1: So if I think can come off when away on
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  Speaker 1: the show, but at the end of the day, it's
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  Speaker 1: like nothing, you know. I mean, if if all else
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  Speaker 1: fails for the two of you, at least you fell
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  Speaker 1: in love with each other. Which I'm over here just
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  Speaker 1: glowing with excitement about Claire going into Winter Games. What
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  Speaker 1: was your best winter sport? Oh my god, Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: that's so short. You guys, I'm I'm thinking I'm good
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  Speaker 1: at sports. I could. I'm pretty athletic, I could do stuff.
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  Speaker 1: What I didn't really realize I put into play was
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  Speaker 1: that I'm good at summer sports. That's good at like
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  Speaker 1: California's sports. I'm not good at so so I would say, uh,
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  Speaker 1: none of the sports were by sports, which is not good.
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  Speaker 1: You certainly weren't the worst at them either, though your
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  Speaker 1: middle of the pack, none of the pack. I have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit back is going in my blood. But
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  Speaker 1: I think for me too, that's what I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be there with the case. I did not know or
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  Speaker 1: have ever done any of the sports. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was like you get to do new things and
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  Speaker 1: try new staton thought I would have never tried or
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  Speaker 1: have not tried sport. You know, you had never seen
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  Speaker 1: never in my league. That's embarrassing. How much better you
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  Speaker 1: were than I was then. It was pure luck. Let's
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  Speaker 1: be honest, it was pure luck. I was. I hit
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  Speaker 1: the blokes. It was like, I can't stop now on us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really didn't eat it all, you know. That's the
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  Speaker 1: thing and I and one of the coolest parts about
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  Speaker 1: this players, you and I did get spend a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time together before the show. During the show, we
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  Speaker 1: got to live in the same house in Vermont, all
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  Speaker 1: of us. Did you know, actually you, myself and a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of others who are coming up here on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: In your opinion, okay, without giving any spoilers away, keeping
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  Speaker 1: at as high level as possible, I think we all
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  Speaker 1: walk out of Winter Games saying, hey, uh, this was
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  Speaker 1: a unique experience. If anything, what if you were a
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  Speaker 1: fan of The Bachelor fanchise, why would you be excited
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  Speaker 1: about Winter Games? Or why shouldn't it be excited about
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  Speaker 1: Winter Games? Well, that's exactly the reason. Who they say
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  Speaker 1: about it is because there's a lot. I can honestly say,
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  Speaker 1: there's not like a show that Bastler has ever done.
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  Speaker 1: It's like us, I know that they're saying. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to People are honestly asking
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  Speaker 1: all the time, what did you guys do? How what's
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  Speaker 1: the concept of the show, And I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I still understand it. There's so much it's fun, crazy,
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  Speaker 1: weird turns and it takes and it's like there's no
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  Speaker 1: formula to it. And that's the cool part about it
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  Speaker 1: is you don't know what is going to happen next,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what's predictable about it, And I think
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  Speaker 1: for me, sorry to be the one winned about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the exciting thing for us on our
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  Speaker 1: side of it was we don't know international people coming
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  Speaker 1: in and didn't know. There's no like looking him all
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  Speaker 1: up and goon and come on, actually I know you did.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to do your recon but it's like you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's no where do you start to to do?
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  Speaker 1: So these are all these faces for us, So the
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  Speaker 1: interactions are funny. I think completely agree. I keep saying
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  Speaker 1: that it's like the focus is on love and humor
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  Speaker 1: and Tachler self awareness. Um, I learned that. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Before we go, before we let you go, I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about your too love interests. On the show,
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  Speaker 1: you get involved with two foreigners. Um, you're having a
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  Speaker 1: love triangle. As briefly and without spoilers, can you describe
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  Speaker 1: your feelings on that? Oh my gosh, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know where to start on that. Let's just say it
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  Speaker 1: was the most unt to think for me, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't I went into thinking I would just be like
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  Speaker 1: an extra on the set. And so for me, it
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  Speaker 1: was like I was the last thing I ever would
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  Speaker 1: have expected to guys to be for in two guys.
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  Speaker 1: So you know what's really funny about you and these guys.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like your your interest in them and they're
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  Speaker 1: interest in you was kind of under wraps and like
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  Speaker 1: all happened behind closed doors. Uh funny you say that,
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  Speaker 1: because there a lot to the story that isn't going
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  Speaker 1: to be like wait a minute. When you watching, trust me,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be like I had no clue about that,
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm excited to watch about. Everybody else
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  Speaker 1: do it? How are things going on? But we don't
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  Speaker 1: know what really happened? Was that pot really fine? And
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  Speaker 1: I talked to you guys all the time? I know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel the exact same way. People were like, oh
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that you guys were like hitting it off,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, how do you not know that?
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  Speaker 1: And Ben Ben even told me he was like, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think you need to be more obvious about it
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  Speaker 1: in front of people. Is it crazy? That's fun about
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  Speaker 1: the sus room And I'm like, I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: who used it or anybody. I don't think anyone used it.
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  Speaker 1: It was right there by the kitchen. It was a
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  Speaker 1: very odd placement. Oh you did? Is that? Did you
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  Speaker 1: go there by yourself? Why is that your first response?
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  Speaker 1: Why was your first response yourself? Because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you would just like go in there and be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh I'm nappy and then just fall asleep in there. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: What is that a true story? Yes, I did sleep
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  Speaker 1: in the Boo Boom room one night at night, and
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  Speaker 1: it was and it was by myself. So thank you
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  Speaker 1: actually for making me feel even worse about myself than
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  Speaker 1: I already do. Oh my goodness, be um looking by yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know about the car sank as I have
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  Speaker 1: on the bus going to that on the bus? No, no,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't know. Do you remember that? Yeah? I said,
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  Speaker 1: I said see that for the teacher. Um you can go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I was. Claire was like Ben is really cute,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, Ben things, you're cute too. He
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  Speaker 1: actually like you're really his type physically. That's a true story.
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  Speaker 1: He's giggling like a little little boy. I just said
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  Speaker 1: there was some hope to be had. What do you say? Oh,
• 16:58
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• 17:02
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• 17:06
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• 17:11
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• 17:14
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• 17:18
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• 17:21
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• 17:23
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• 17:25
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• 17:28
  Speaker 1: or so. By Yes, Actually, why don't you tell me
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff? Did you want to know that stuff?
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're I mean, you're supposed to be a friend. Like,
• 17:37
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• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like you should still tell me. Well, I feel like you, oh,
• 17:42
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• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like if a guy came
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: up to me in the house, no matter if I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: knew you were intim or not, or if I thought
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: maybe you'd be really into him and he was like
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: that actley girl, dang like she'd be fine, I think
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I would tell you. I haven't actually just let you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: like a girl a guy in this house thinks really cute.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Like if for no other reason to pump you up
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a bit, Ben, we can't talk spoilers here, but every
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: girl is interested in you in the house. Everybody was like, Oh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I'm into Ben. That wasn't the problem. Claire's very alurty.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So if she likes you, you know you would know. Okay,
• 18:24
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• 18:27
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• 18:32
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• 18:35
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• 18:43
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• 18:45
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• 18:49
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• 18:51
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• 21:10
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• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, Hello, some of my favorites from
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: t mus a. Hey, Leslie, So tell people where they
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: will remember you from your bit of a throwback. Oh yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit, I'm a bit. I'm a vintage, I guess,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: but memorable. Like I knew exactly who you were. I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: saw your face as soon as they said the name,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Leslie Murphy. You're a favorite of mine from the past. Thanks,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: as that means so much. I know, and it was
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a pleasure to be on bast Winter Games with you
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: time people, so we would know you from Sean Low
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: season of the Bats that you were around for a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: long time. You actually really had strong feelings for Sean,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: if I remember right? Correct? I did, I really did.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. He was Southern, I'm southern.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Those were into football. I think that was actually my intro.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I like, hiped the football to him, um, which is
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a little moozing. And then yeah, we just we had
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a lot in common and I really liked the guy.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But don did my best friend Catherine from the show, um,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: so that was a little awkward. And then once I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: once I left, then they really hit it off and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: they're married today with two kids. But yeah, I have
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a really so funny in my brain, I was like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: who's Katherine of Sean and Catherine and you were a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: bridesmaid in their wedding? Correct, right? I know it's some
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: people find that so weird, but honestly it was. It
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: was totally normal and fine for us. And it was
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: also strange is that we held the world record for
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the longest on screen kiss. Is actually just going to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: talk about that? Yeah, oh, God, I mean talk about
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: talk about a weird like the world's most awkward date ever. Uh, well,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: will you be kissing? It was like it was yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So we toured the Guinness um World Record Museum on
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Boulevard in l A. And I had no idea
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that after this we were going to break our own record,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: which was essentially the world's longest on screen kiss. And
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I think at the time the longest screen kiss was
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: back from the Citties and it was like, I don't know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: maybe two minutes, so we had to beat that. But
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: what they didn't show is that our lips essentially couldn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: separate during this whole ordeal. But we were trying to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: make it fun and and our lips didn't separate at
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: one point, and so we had to start all the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: way over. And I think it lasts like some ungodly
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like four minutes what seemed like an eternity, but I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: have now have a world record to prove for it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: So Pepper, I was gonna say, this is the precursor
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: date to the Hot Peppers, and that was the world
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: honest kiss. Oh, that was the worlds hottest kiss. That's right,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that's right. Well, I thought I had the world's hottest
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: kiss ones, but it wasn't documented. Again, speaking speaking of kisses, Leslie,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: are you kissing anyone on this season? Uh? Yeah, Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I looked back on the season and I think I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: kissed too much on camera. I was I'm like, what
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: am I doing? Um? So it should be it should
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: be really interesting for everybody involved. I thought you guys
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: had the first kiss of the season. Did not know
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that there was actually a kiss on Night one? Can
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: we say it was? I can't say who it was from,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but it was usam Usa had the first kiss, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: then I think with you t mus they had another kiss. Um. Yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: but yeah, started making out early on. Yeah, sure, sure was. Hey, hey, Leslie,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I have a really close to worried about that. Uh
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: uh yeah. So I actually had a front row seat
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: at Leslie's first day. I was sitting beside literally the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: person she was kissing. They're kind of hanging out the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: good old evening on the couch, and all of a sudden,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I look over and I quickly realized that I was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: no longer welcomed to the conversation on the conversation no
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: longer existed. They were making out, and I was just
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: sitting awkwardly close staring. Well. The weird thing about all
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: this has been I don't think you were the only
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: one there. I mean, there are a lot of people
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in the room and and so yeah, we'll see how
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it plays out on screen. I'm a little nervous. You
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: guys are playing a game when your first kiss came about?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Were you not what was this game? And it was
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a wild night. I had gone to bed early. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: was emotional and exhausted. I went to bed, I missed
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: all the festivities. Tell us what was the scene? Was like, yeah,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I can we talk about something real quickly because I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: feel like you said you were emotionally exhausted, and I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I never once you shed a tear? What when we
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: were when we were calling Bastard on our games? That
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: was because I cried right before I went to bed,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and then you were really distracted that night too, And
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that was the only time I cried. Okay, okay, because
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: these proms, you know, I see these promos for Baster
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Winter Games, and here you are shedding some tears, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I never saw her study singles here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I did, definitely. Yeah, that was with Ben. I was
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: like all up in his shoulder definition of cry on
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: his shoulder, Leslie, I'm really interested. Okay, So I know
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in the past you you've never done Paradise. You've you've
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: been I don't know how to stay that a hot
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: commodity in the Bastard franchise for a while. Um, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: obviously you're a catch. We all agree to that. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: think actually would definitely agree to that. You've never done Paradise,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: but you chose to do win our Games, and I'm
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: very interested. Why. That's a great question, Ben, I'm glad
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you asked, because I don't think Paradise is ever on
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: my radar because for me just it's just you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: bringing on the beach all day, which is there's nothing
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: wrong with that. But I loved the aspect of Bachelor
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Winter Games because it's a brand new show and it
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: brought people from all over the world together. All all
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that's the franchises from Bashela Australia, Bachelor in New Zealand,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Sweden, Bachelor of Germany and that, Um, that really
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: spoke to me because it's it's almost like it brought
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: my two worlds together, traveling people from all over the world,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and my favorite reality TV show ever, So it was
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: kind of a no brainer. It was just like brand
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: new show, people from all over the world living in
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: one house in Vermont together. What could possibly go wrong
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: working on Capitol Hill back when you're on Shawn season
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and now you're a travel blogger and you're super successful
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: at it. Your pictures on Instagram are amazing. Where can
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: people follow you and see all your adventures? Oh thinks
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: as Um? Yeah, my my Instagram is my name Leslie
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and Murphy, and my blog is called The row Less
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Travels and it's less with one s. Um. It's so funny.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I have obviously it's a takeoff Robert Frost poem. Um,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and obviously my name is Leslie, so it's less fun s.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But I've had some people email me and say there's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a type of in the name of my blog, which
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I find hilarious. But yeah, dot com it's funny. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: feel like I could talk to you forever. I still
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: have a couple more questions. Um, you were you're just
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: athletically inclined, you know, that's just like your thing. You
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: can even look at you and you're like, oh, that
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: girl's good at sports. She was like the hot soccer
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: player in high school that all the guys, it's just
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: like you were, Like you're like Blake Lively in traveling pants,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: like your blonde hair just swinging back and forth as
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you kick a soccer ball. You're really making my day. No,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you are, you know you are? Um, what was your
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: favorite competition we did? And? Uh, yeah, competition not usually
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: uhad on Twitter. Sometimes like when she actually says this,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: she actually means it because sometimes you know, we can
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: really be brutal. So Leslie just take this for what
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it's worth. Actually really loves you and thinks you're Oh
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: my god, I'm never going to be able. I love you,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: asked me. I think the same. I think the same
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of you. Anyway, let's go back to sports. Okay, my
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: favorite competition of Nastro winning games. This is tough, um,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: but I feel like I've got to say, uh the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: end where we did a couples ice skating dance. Umice
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: went into that. I think we practiced for three days
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: straight and I just really loved my costume at the end.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I think that really helped. Um. It kind of uh
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: made my childhood dream come true of being this like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: fancy Um cargain that popular ice skater. But I don't
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: think in the end, I did the best that I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: could do. But that's okay. Maybe we'll edit it in
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a way that makes me look super athletic and great
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: on figures tape. Then do you have any more questions
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: for you know? I I don't. I think uh. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: guess My only question before we think good bye the year, Leslie,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: is are you glad you did win a game? I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: had the time of my life on Winter Games. I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: so glad I did it. I I've always loved about
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the franchise, and so I'm happy to be back. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: think we'll probably end up having you come on and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: talk a little more detail throughout the next couple of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: weeks of it airing. So I think there's a few
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: things we haven't talked about, and I think a lot
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: of people are like, why didn't you talk about that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, let's just talk about when it's airing, looking
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: up to your potential engagement. Yeah, leading up to the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: potential engagement. Yeah, we'll be excited about seeing how this
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: plays out. All right, thanks for coming on by, Okay,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: thanks absolutely. Yeah, do you think any of the couples
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that come out of Winter Games will get engaged, like
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: maybe not on the show, but in the future. Too
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: early to say that's not fun. Actually answer my question, no,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: um Ben, I want your opinion. Yes, I do you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: do interesting? I think? Let me elaborate. So, I think
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: there are some couples that come out of Winter Games
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that are some of the realist couples have ever seen
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: come out of this tranchise, and I think there's some
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: absolute actual chemistry going on. I think they're I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Winner Games allowed an environment where people can really start
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to work through issues as couples and also celebrate and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: have fun memories together. I think the couples that walked
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: out of Winter Games actually as somewhat knew each other.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Like I I can't imagine if Winner Games not allowing
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the environment for people to come out possibly finding left.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So I do think you maybe I shouldn't say engagement,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: but I will say there will be some very serious,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: long lasting couples, uh that I would not be surprised
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: if they got engaged that who met at Winter Games. Okay,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: now I have a quick interesting question for you, knowing
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that you went through the bachelor process, which is like
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: literally six times as long as the Bachelor Winter Games process.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think that the couples that are together now
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: from Winter Games know each other coming off the show
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: better than you knew Lauren coming off your show. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: don't think so, because I really thought I knew Lauren.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I think I did know Lauren. I think my feelings
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: for Lauren were very real. I mean, honestly, there was
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: no moment after the Bachelor that I can I remember going,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: oh crap, I don't know this girl, Like I really
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: really cared about her coming off the show, during the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: show and moving forward. But I think maybe that I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was an anomaly to at some level. I think, just
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like every Bachelor show, it's about love and it's about relationships.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: And I really do mean that, and I believe that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think Winter Games and Paradise and all of these
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: side shows now offer a really good environment for couples
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to me, and I'm interested here for our next guest
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: feels the same way we have who we like to
• 33:15
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• 33:18
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• 33:23
  Speaker 1: We're just talking about do you feel like Winter Games
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: allowed the environment or produce the environment for people to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: truly fall in love. I think it did. I agree,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I completely agree. Yeah, I do. Okay, So I just
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: asked to ask you this question, and I know actually
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: has a list of questions here that she's excited about
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: asking you, and I'm gonna let her get into this
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and take this away, but I want to ask you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the same question. Out of the couples, and you might
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: be in one of these relationships, We're not gonna we're
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna spoil this. Out of the couples that came
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: out of Winter Games, do you believe there's a possibility
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: that one of these pups will end up engaged? Absolutely?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I agree. I completely agree with Jana. Actually, I'm telling you,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I think there's some real love going on here. Very interesting.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I now that we've talked about this, I kind of
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: feel like I have a better idea. Why actually do
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you think it's Do you think otherwise? No? I said
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it was too soon to tell, But then I threw
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it back at Ben and I said, like, these couples
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: have now known each other as long as Ben did
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: during his process with Lauren. But my, my, whole the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: whole debate is just the Paradise Winter Games model versus
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor Bachelor atte model, where you have eight weeks
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: together on that show, but it's not constant time together
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: like it is on the other shows. So I think
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the other shows, like the spin off shows, um prepare
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you better to know who you're getting engaged too. I agree,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: because it's like real life, like you're living together, living,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: living and not just on mantic dates all the time, right,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Like you're seeing everyone in different elements, like you're seeing
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you're seeing each other when you wake up, you're seeing
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: each other like through these events. Yeah, you see each
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: other without makeup, with ice on your face, like me
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: in the morning. Right, So yeah, it's like for who
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: they are, you know, even if you're a little bit
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: nervous the first few days, eventually you just become really
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: comfortable and it's like this one big family. So you're
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: getting to know each other at a very Probably I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: would like to think, like what you tend to see
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: after six months, you're seeing within three days. I probably agree. Yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean I think I think this just Babyanna even
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: watching these relationships kind of around us and and maybe
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: we're a part of these Uh, we're not gonna say,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I just really felt comfortable and not awkward about the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: relationships that are existing. Like I remember the relationships outside
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of myself being like celebrating those while I was in
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the house, because like, this is a real thing, this
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  Speaker 1: is a cool thing. I'm watching my and right next
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to me developed relationships that I can now celebrate, and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I think those relationships were very real. Um And so
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I this is my first time doing a show outside
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor and Bachelor I'm a big fan. I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: think people should do that Paradise. I think people should
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: do Winter Games. If they really are trying to find somebody,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: why not. This is a great example of people that
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: can find love. Baby, you have a date on the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: first episode. Um, I know from some Little Birdie's that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it's chopped down a lot. The whole scenario is chopped
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: down a lot. We talked a bit about it on
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: when you were on our podcast on these This Almost
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: podcast a couple of weeks ago, and how you and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I both had interest in the same guy. I don't
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: know if they're going to show much of our interaction, um,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and how I was actually quite supportive of you going
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: on this date. Of course, I don't know if I'm
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: getting get in trouble. No oh no, no, You're not
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble. As I love you, you're so worried, Like, hey,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: let's just throw it out. I'm so worried because of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: my past. I know, but as your as your co host,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that I know, and Bibiana back
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: me up here if you can or if you agree,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: don't agree, please go for it. It's a great podcast material, Ashley.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: When it comes to women, you aren't dramatic, like You're
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: not gonna so stop trying to protect yourself. It's good.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I just like that's just like my That's the criticism
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that I get the very most is that people don't
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: think like I'm supportive of like other girls. And there
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: was just really one scenario, one scenario in the past
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: where it was very hard for me to be okay
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: with what was going on. We get it, We get it,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and tell you if there's one woman that would tell
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you how they feel, it's Bibiana. Bibiana, did you feel okay,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: let's just settle this now so I don't have to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: hear about if the rest of the season may be honest,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: did you feel supported by Ashley. Yes or no? Absolutely, Okay,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you're supportive. She really is. I don't know what I
• 38:13
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• 38:16
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• 38:19
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• 38:22
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• 38:24
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• 40:23
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• 40:25
  Speaker 1: watching this season of The Bachelor? I am. I want
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to know what are you going to watch? Winter Game?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna watch when her game? Absolutely? Who isn't?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Who do you think she is? Then? I don't watch it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I don't watch any of mine. No, I don't watch
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: any of these this stuff I'm on. I might, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: might watch Winter Games, but I haven't seen The Bachelor.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Watch the Bachelor, right, Yeah, I haven't watched any of that. No, shot,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you didn't watch your win of the Batchel. No, we
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: have gone on this podcast for almost nine months and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just learning that you didn't watch your your season
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. If I releasedaw this early, we would
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: have a podcast to last actually funny enough, and I
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: was actually watching, so I my mistake was probably I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: think one of my mistakes was not watching enough of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor before I actually jumped onto this season. So
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: when you guys asked me, like what my thoughts were
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: on Aria as a batchelor, I really didn't have a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: lot to stay because I didn't really know, so I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: went back and I watched some of your season. Then
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: it just kind of like as a repression and you
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: were such a good battuet. What does that mean? I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: don't even know what that means. I've always wondered what
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that means when people say that. I feel like you
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: just knew how to navigate your conversations and even just
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: saying goodbye to the women, you had much more to
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: slay than It's almost like personal Um, I watched your
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Woman's Tell All and you can just tell the women
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: just wanted you to really be happy, and that shows
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a lot. That shows that you took the time to listen,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you navigated conversations very well throughout the date. I I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: personally feel victimized that that what that? What? What do you? What?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like I pick him up? That I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: didn't get such a good bach? Hey, hey, hey, we
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: all have to feel that way. Here's okay, this is
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: what everybody said about your Women tell All. They're like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it seems like all the girls who just didn't have
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: any complaints about him, they're just happy that he was happy.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You should I think I think that's changed. I mean,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: here's here's the truth. And not to make this about
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: my season the Bachelor, but we we've touched it. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: got to know this question from the both of you now, um,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and then we moved into moor games here more. If
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the women were happy for me, then I don't know
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: if there is happy for me now. I don't know why,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: but I feel like it's really hard for the bachelor
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: or bachelorette to keep any type of friendship or close
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: relationship or any type of relationship period, like even admiration
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: after the show. I mean, honestly, I would. One of
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the hardest things for me coming off The Bachelor has
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: been the fact that I don't know if you need
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: these women that I really cared about, that I really
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: think are great, that I really have a soft about
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: my heart for. I don't know if they still even
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: like like me as a person. And I don't know why.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about your bachelor's You're just
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: different then, But I think you're referring to like they're
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: your Your girls are cookie, so they're either going to be.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's as a post break up issue that
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you're dealing with. I don't know, this is a post
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: show break a bus show issue. Okay, that makes sense,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. I get that. Maybe on it. What
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: do you mean I'm different? He is, Yeah, you're just different.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Like that doesn't make me feel good? Okay a good way, No,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: in a good way. Like you just you have a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: different kind of presence, you have a different kind of energy.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: It's really hard to have to not love you. You know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: either of these things don't work out. You're not the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: guy that you're just people are drawn to you and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: how this great? And then about like I can't explain that,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: BENNI are just like different in a really good way.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: And you know, like watching your part of like what
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: you went through on yourself, I'm just like, this guy
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: is just incredible. Um, but I can't see anybody not
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: we should be the best, even like well, I mean
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a moment breaking up with them, everybody seemed to be
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: really happy with Well, I mean, this is this is
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the truth. And and I cannot wait to get into
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: your story because Viviana, you are one of the most
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: captivating people we've ever had in the Backlor franchise. There's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: a moment at Winter Games that you sat me down
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and I have never had this happened to me. And
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I told you this there, and I told you that
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to respond to you, because
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: at the moment I was so taken back. Viviana sat
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: me down at Winter Games and she just spoke like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: what she said was truth into me. She sat me
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: down and directly talked to me and said some the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: most encouraging, some of the most raw, real things to me,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: like at my face, just to say it and and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: beyont that moment there, I realized that there is a
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: depth to you, that there is just a rawness and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a genuine and authenticity to you that I've never been around.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: And I think for all of us coming out of
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the Winter Games, all of us when we talk say
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the same thing you. I mean, you might say that, Hey,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: you know I look special. You, Bibiana, I can tell
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: are very very special. And I think Ashley can attest
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to that because she loves you so much. Um down,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'm blushing. I'm glad that by honest and talked to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you about that, because I think like she really was
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: able to articulate everything that everybody in that house is
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: feeling about you, and you don't sometimes see about yourself,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: which we are just mind boggled by well in Winter Games.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: This is the cool part about watching this back is,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we see your storyline change actually where you
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and your supportive of the Beanna in her pursuit of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: some of you may be into, and Bibiana you vice versa.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And then for me personally, it was a big moment
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of discovery. For me, I had people around me like
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you actually and Bibiana speaking to me and walking me
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: through something that wasn't necessarily easy, or maybe it was
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: just a little too raw and too real and not
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: something I expected to feel or think. And that's what
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Winter Games was. Winter Games is gonna be a lot
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: of fun to watch because I believe that every turn,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: in every moment, there was a genuiness and an authenticity
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and and almost what I want to say, a joy
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: to being in the house. But I don't think you
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: get a lot on these shows. Yeah, yeah, there was
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: no hostility. That was what was interesting. You know, we
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: kind of laughed with the first day when Chris Harrison's like,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: this is a demonstration of worldwide unity and love and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, cheesiest line of all Bachelor history.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: But it actually became the truth. Um, speaking of love, Bibby,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: one last question, just to get some dirt out of you. Um,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: when you walked into that house, who were the guys
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that stood out as like You're like, I'm gonna go
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: get my flirt on with them? Well, I can't say
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that I act that way like I'm gonna go get
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: my flirt on it my thing. But I mean I remember, um,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: somebody asking me like, oh, who's somebody that stands up
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to you right now? I was like, it's so soon.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: But if I had to pick one, it was Ben.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: H Yeah. Other things that Ben did it now well
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: only because like how are you supposed to how are
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you supposed to know within just like a few hours,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Like how you like who stands out? But one thing
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: that Ben did while during the parade when all of
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: us were you know, it's the first time all of
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: us are meeting, then just went around and just introduced
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: himself to every single person and we're like in this
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: we're all standing, so it's like awkward to get to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: like make it wait if they hit everyone, he found
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: a way and he introduced himself and he just that's
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: that to me is something that you can't really teach
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: people to just to know how to connect and be attentive.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: So um I would say that Ben was the guy
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: who said got to be the most first thing. Yeah. Well,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: oh Bibby, you continue to to just make me feel
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a lot better about my stuff than every foot before
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you and actually have this way about you. Babiana. We
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: love you so much. We want to have you back
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: on the podcast as Winter Games continues. Can you can
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you agree to that? Can you come on? Absolutely? I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: love you guys, All right, thanks babe, Sam of course
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  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what it is. They overuse the
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• 51:41
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• 51:49
  Speaker 1: don't like to say, oh, I'm so excited, because it
• 51:51
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  Speaker 1: It's like I'm going to go eat a burger. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I'm so excited. You know what. We all
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor and Bachelor d secretly told me and I
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  Speaker 1: mean this, and I know they meant this because this
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  Speaker 1: was just between us, but Winter Games betweend of you listeners.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you get for telling a podcast guy, secrets
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  Speaker 1: of the show. Um that Winter Game is some of
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  Speaker 1: the best television The Bachelor's ever produced, if not the best.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that too. I've heard it too, and not
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  Speaker 1: from an executive. We all have different sources from people
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  Speaker 1: who have already seen the press release. I agree it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. People have to watch it. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be I mean, it's gonna be like you said, Astley,
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  Speaker 1: what were the words that you just use? Yeah, something
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  Speaker 1: like that. That's really shappy and weird and makes me
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  Speaker 1: awkward to say, but it's probably It's probably true. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but we gotta think all of our guests are coming
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  Speaker 1: on the day because these these guests, including the international guests,
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  Speaker 1: are the ones that make this show so great. It
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  Speaker 1: was very real, very real, very raw. Real relationships are formed.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I are both a part of it. We
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  Speaker 1: cannot wait for our listeners out there to watch. Please
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  Speaker 1: guest Eric Bigger, Leslie Murphy, Bibianna, Juliana, and Claire Crawley.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to this. The
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  Speaker 1: Winter Game starts Tuesday, February. It's Galantine's Day. That the
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