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Patriots Unfiltered 4/25: Day 2 of NFL Draft, Will Campbell In-Studio, Ryan Cowden Interview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. How is the Giant's war room situation?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Patriots Select, they heard your table pounding in a
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  Speaker 5: Will Campbell. I'm a fighting ut to protect them with everything.
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  Speaker 4: We call it BTT. You're a bang the table, guys.
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  Speaker 1: You banged it before the thing even started.
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  Speaker 4: We'll have him in our studio. We'll do a one
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  Speaker 4: on one with him, and we'll bring him in here,
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  Speaker 4: live and in person.
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  Speaker 1: Great day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can gush all over it. He took it.
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  Speaker 4: He took it in a dark place. Yeah, guy, that
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  Speaker 4: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Friday night.
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  Speaker 4: Two of the NFL Draft. We're back and we'll be
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  Speaker 4: back until ten o'clock tonight, maybe a little later depending
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  Speaker 4: on what happens. Well, you know, we'll kind of play
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  Speaker 4: it by youar. You know, things start to go berserk,
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  Speaker 4: we can't just abandon shit, right.
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  Speaker 5: Zirk, and at least wait out our picks, right seventy seven?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Duce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, and
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  Speaker 4: we're still glowing with the pickle. At least I am
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  Speaker 4: of Will Campbell and we had a chance to sit
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  Speaker 4: down with him today. So when we feel like it,
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  Speaker 4: we'll play that for you. That was really cool.
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  Speaker 5: When are you gonna play it, Mike, when we feel.
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  Speaker 4: Like we feel like it? When Fred decided but he
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  Speaker 4: was making the rounds today with the crafts and his
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  Speaker 4: family was here, mother and father, brother, girlfriend, a couple others. Agent.
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  Speaker 4: I guess agents. Yeah, he's so good. He has two agents,
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  Speaker 4: big guy. You know what, Freddy, good kid, good kid kid,
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  Speaker 4: good kid, good stock comes from good stock. So we'll
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  Speaker 4: play that interview, and uh see who else they picked tonight?
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  Speaker 4: The Patriots, Sarah have the sixth pick in the second round,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, I'm thinking I said before the show to
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  Speaker 4: the guys, I think we're going to go offense tonight.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to continue. We're picking with me for the.
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  Speaker 1: You into my role.
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  Speaker 5: We have AFS fourteen game.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a really important night though for
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  Speaker 7: the team. Nice pick with Will Campbell filled a major need.
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  Speaker 7: But tonight, I think is where the rubber meets the
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  Speaker 7: road and you really need to hit some of these
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  Speaker 7: picks out of the park.
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  Speaker 1: This is, you know, D two.
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  Speaker 7: This is where the good teams find the good players,
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  Speaker 7: the guys that maybe have some wartz or have something
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  Speaker 7: that's caused them not to be first round picks. This
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  Speaker 7: is where your scouting staff makes their money, finds the gems.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope tonight that they do a little do
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  Speaker 1: a little better.
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  Speaker 4: Should it strictly be best player available from now on?
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  Speaker 8: I think so. But I think Duce just said exactly
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  Speaker 8: what I was gonna say, very well said it. This
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  Speaker 8: is this is where the men separate themselves from the boys.
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  Speaker 8: That's what Fred likes to say. This is when you
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  Speaker 8: know you got to get picks on Day two of
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  Speaker 8: the draft are huge, Like it's one thing to sit
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  Speaker 8: up there and take Will Campbell at four.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 8: You know a lot of people could have done that. Now,
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  Speaker 8: this is when you go out there and find those
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  Speaker 8: hidden gems and find those guys that slip through the
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  Speaker 8: cracks a little bit and be able to hit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I like the way you put it too. It's a
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  Speaker 5: you know, the day two picks. You know that's you
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  Speaker 5: gotta find players. It's a difference between making a good
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  Speaker 5: pick in the first round. Like last year, everybody's happy
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  Speaker 5: with Drake may it's a good pick, but they didn't
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  Speaker 5: augment it with really much else. You need to find
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  Speaker 5: some players tonight. Yeah, three picks you got thirty eight,
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  Speaker 5: sixty nine, seventy seven. Got a hit on two of them.
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  Speaker 1: At least the same thing with two years ago.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they've done a good job the last two
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  Speaker 7: years hitting on these first round picks. I've had some luck,
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  Speaker 7: some players have fallen to them and have picking in
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  Speaker 7: the right draft year. But this is where you know,
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  Speaker 7: these aren't the guys that aren't necessarily the gems or
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  Speaker 7: the low round guys that you really need to you know,
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  Speaker 7: sift through so much informa, Like, these.
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  Speaker 1: Guys are all pretty good players.
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  Speaker 7: These are players that in the right situation, could be
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  Speaker 7: star impact kind of players if they get around.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever their concerns are.
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  Speaker 7: They were a little slow, they're their physical measurements were
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  Speaker 7: a little bit below the standard or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 7: But there's a lot of good We don't have to
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  Speaker 7: go through the list. You know, every year there are
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  Speaker 7: great players that are drafted in the second and third round,
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  Speaker 7: and then it's time to get some of those guys.
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  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick used to talk to us a little bit
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  Speaker 5: back when he used to talk to us right, and
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  Speaker 5: he would explain, he explained to Brian and I once
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  Speaker 5: one hundred years ago, the third round in particular was
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  Speaker 5: full of first round talents that for whatever reason are
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  Speaker 5: not first round picks. That can be injuries, you know,
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  Speaker 5: injury histories, you know, character issues. You know, maybe something
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  Speaker 5: from a physical standpoint that doesn't quite measure up. You know,
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  Speaker 5: something like just to use something near and dear to
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  Speaker 5: our hearts, like arm size for a tackle. You know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe the guy didn't quite measure up to the the
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  Speaker 5: you know, the standard norm. So he's a third round pick,
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  Speaker 5: but he's good enough to be a first round pick.
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  Speaker 5: And he said the third round in particular was littered
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  Speaker 5: with those guys you just got you gotta find them,
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  Speaker 5: and you got to find the ones that that hit.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you got to find the gronks in the
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  Speaker 5: second round and you know instead of you know, a
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  Speaker 5: guy that maybe you took a chance, you know, like
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  Speaker 5: a Malcolm Mitchell in the third round, who had came
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  Speaker 5: in with injury problems. Clearly had the ability to play,
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  Speaker 5: but the injury problems weren't enough. You know, he wasn't
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  Speaker 5: able to overcome them enough to be a long term solution.
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  Speaker 4: I think that the ability for players to move around
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  Speaker 4: the transfer portal makes it easier or harder to to
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  Speaker 4: scout them and to judge them and project them into
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, because now they can get to a situation
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  Speaker 4: where I can play now, you know, like I don't
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  Speaker 4: like the reps I'm getting, I don't like where I
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  Speaker 4: am on the depth chart. I can move to a
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  Speaker 4: team and you know, start or whatever. That is that
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  Speaker 4: better for the NFL scouts.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I've got a lot of different thoughts on that,
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  Speaker 7: on both sides of the equation, because I think on
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  Speaker 7: one hand, you look at players maybe, oh they're facing
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  Speaker 7: some adversity and they're not really going to have to
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  Speaker 7: face it. They're just going to pick up, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and go and go somewhere else. But I also think
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  Speaker 7: you have bigger sample size on guys. You have them
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  Speaker 7: playing for different coaches, different systems. They're you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 7: guys are going from small leagues to now they're playing
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  Speaker 7: in the SEC. You know, a player had one year
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  Speaker 7: in the SEC and now you get a look at
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  Speaker 7: him against the league competition. So it's a great question.
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  Speaker 7: It's a great question, Fred, because I see both sides
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  Speaker 7: of it. I think, ultimately, though, you want more of
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  Speaker 7: a sample side on the player, and you just want
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  Speaker 7: to expect that if they face the adversity.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I would not hold like you mentioned, like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it faces adversity just you know, takes his ball and
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  Speaker 4: goes home. I don't look at it that way. I
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  Speaker 4: look at it as I want to play. I want
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  Speaker 4: to play, and for whatever reason, the coach thinks this
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  Speaker 4: person is better than me. We've all been through it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's the majority of guys that transfer,
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  Speaker 5: You don't think. I don't think they transfer for playing time.
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  Speaker 5: They transfer for money.
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  Speaker 4: But I, oh, yeah, yeah, but they you don't get
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  Speaker 4: the money unless you play.
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  Speaker 5: No, you get more money when you transfer to another place.
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  Speaker 5: There's open bidding for these guys in the portal. That's
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  Speaker 5: what it's all about.
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  Speaker 4: So you don't think that they do it because I want.
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  Speaker 5: To, you know, because I'm not telling you this is
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  Speaker 5: zero like you. I thought Mike made a really good
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  Speaker 5: comparison guys that transfer up a level, and I just
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  Speaker 5: blurred it out. Jared Versu in the middle. He went
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  Speaker 5: to Albany and the CIA, and then he ended up
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  Speaker 5: transferring to Florida State, which put him on a much
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  Speaker 5: bigger scale and a bigger spotlight. That worked out for him.
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  Speaker 5: I would say it's probably harder for the NFL teams
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  Speaker 5: to scout the guys, but it's definitely better for the
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  Speaker 5: players because they get more of an opportunity to play.
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  Speaker 5: Like Freddie is saying, you know, maybe they're not used
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  Speaker 5: the right way. Some guys, I'm sure transfer for football reasons.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a small percentage. I think it's mostly
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  Speaker 5: financial nowadays, the last three or four years, since the
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  Speaker 5: advent of the nil stuff. I think they're just going
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  Speaker 5: to the highest bidder, especially in basketball, but football too. Quarterbacks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look what the Tennessee kid just did trying
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  Speaker 5: to hold his school up for hostage. You know, Nico,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna try to pronounce the last name.
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  Speaker 5: But from a I think from a scout standpoint, that's
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  Speaker 5: probably difficult because you develop relationships with coaching staffs. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you're scouting in an area, you know those teams. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: I'm following this guy in my area and now all
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden, he's not in my area anymore. So
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  Speaker 5: I have all this information on this guy, and now
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  Speaker 5: I got to send him to the different scout he's
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  Speaker 5: got to. So I think it's probably harder to establish
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  Speaker 5: those consistent relationships with it. You know, how does this
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  Speaker 5: guy fit in Nick Saban system? As an example, Now
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, he's not a Nick Saban system anymore.
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  Speaker 5: You know, probably makes it a little bit more challenging
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  Speaker 5: for teams.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would think that it would be harder to
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  Speaker 8: Paul's points, but I'd have heard that there's people that
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  Speaker 8: feel like learning how different players are going to assimilate
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  Speaker 8: to different situations can be a good way to just
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  Speaker 8: see how to guys adjust, how do guys learn new systems,
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  Speaker 8: how do they absorb playbooks, like how are they able
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  Speaker 8: to get themselves up and running in a different system,
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  Speaker 8: in a different scheme, and that can be good from
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  Speaker 8: that standpoint. Or maybe you know, you really like the
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  Speaker 8: small school guy. You thought that he was kind of
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  Speaker 8: like a hidden gem. He's Jared Verse. He goes to
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  Speaker 8: Florida State and now you get to see him against
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  Speaker 8: even better competition. But I'm surprised that there are a
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  Speaker 8: lot of people out there in the scouting community that
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  Speaker 8: actually like it because of the diversity in the assimilation process.
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  Speaker 8: And they say it's a lot like the NFL. You know,
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  Speaker 8: you're negotiating a contract essentially in the NIL portal and
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  Speaker 8: you have to go it's basically going through free agency,
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  Speaker 8: but just in college, and that does maybe help.
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  Speaker 4: And Paul's probably right, and probably a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: guys do it to make the money. But for those
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  Speaker 4: guys who like they're not happy with they're playing time
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  Speaker 4: and they want to move to I get that totally.
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  Speaker 4: I think to come to college to spend all this
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  Speaker 4: all my free time being on the sports team to
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  Speaker 4: just watch I want to play. I want to play.
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  Speaker 5: We are underway, by the way.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, the Browns have made a pick.
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  Speaker 4: Oh they had Okay, Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 8: The Browns took Carson Sweeshinger linebacker Linda from New Zealand.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: So you don't like him, no.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's an interesting story.
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  Speaker 7: I mean he was basically a special teams player the
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  Speaker 7: last year and then he had like, you know, one
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  Speaker 7: hundred and fifty tackles or something crazy like that. I
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  Speaker 7: think he led fbs in in in those but I
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  Speaker 7: don't know, just an interesting pick.
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  Speaker 1: Again, defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 7: You just took Mason Graham, now you're going to put
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  Speaker 7: him in that So, I mean they seem really focused
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  Speaker 7: on their defense, which I thought was pretty good, and
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  Speaker 7: that again the offense.
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  Speaker 1: I just who's on the offense still, Jerry Judy, that's
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  Speaker 1: what we got. We got to joke. That's a good
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  Speaker 1: one too.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of people speculated yesterday that now that
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland got what they did in the first round, now
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  Speaker 4: they'll take Sanda, Right, that's what it's kind of. But
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  Speaker 4: that may not be the case.
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  Speaker 5: I think that they told you and the top of
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  Speaker 5: the first round they're not really interested in Sanders.
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  Speaker 4: Well at the top of the first round.
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  Speaker 5: No, but I don't I think if they liked him
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  Speaker 5: as a quarterback, you take them. Yeah, I think someone will.
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  Speaker 4: Probably take now it's more like a Garoppolo.
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  Speaker 5: I think someone will take Shad with Sanders tonight. But
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be like.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, well at this point too, you know,
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  Speaker 8: just there's only so many musical chairs, right, like if
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  Speaker 8: you're there's only so many teams that need the quarterback,
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  Speaker 8: that are looking for quarterbacks, and so if the Browns
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  Speaker 8: keep passing on them, that's one that needs a quarterback. Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 8: I guess, is the other team that needs a quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: I don't pick until the round round three, right, right,
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  Speaker 5: but maybe New Orleans.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, New Orleans is a chance, but he could be
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  Speaker 8: a third round pick.
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  Speaker 7: And so like so it's like, let's say shut goes
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  Speaker 7: above him, or like, at what point do we say,
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  Speaker 7: why do we spend so much time talking about sdor Sanders?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 1: So that's not that good round pick.
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  Speaker 5: And I was telling you guys, it was listening to
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  Speaker 5: some of the stuff this morning, the passionate arguments saying
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  Speaker 5: the exact same words but with two completely different meanings.
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  Speaker 5: We're only talking about him sliding because of his last name,
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  Speaker 5: as opposed to weren't taken was because of his last name,
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  Speaker 5: like both sides so dug in that it's he got
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  Speaker 5: snubbed because he's a Sanders or we're only talking about
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  Speaker 5: him because he's a Sanders, you know, and who knows
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  Speaker 5: who's right. You know, it's totally diametrical opposites.
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  Speaker 8: So the pick is in now for the Texans, So
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  Speaker 8: we're moving pretty quickly. They did not take an offensive,
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  Speaker 8: and they took Jayden Higgins from Iowa stay, they took
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  Speaker 8: a wide receiver, they.
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  Speaker 5: Took the guy out.
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  Speaker 8: So now it looks like Ursery might actually end up
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  Speaker 8: being on the board at thirty eight. At this point,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, we'll see if he goes in the next
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  Speaker 8: couple of picks, but that'll be one second, guess, you
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  Speaker 8: know it look back on it to kind of compare
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  Speaker 8: and contrast.
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  Speaker 4: And we think we have a trade. The Seahawks have
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  Speaker 4: traded with the Titans.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, the Seahawks are on the clock.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yep, So maybe that's maybe that's Ursery, But I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I think you saw Houston last year after they lost
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  Speaker 7: Tank Dell really struggled Stefan Diggs left, he's here now.
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  Speaker 7: It seems like they're you know, continuing to stuck up.
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  Speaker 7: I just always think it's interesting what Nick Cassario's doing
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  Speaker 7: with his background here and how he kind of views
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  Speaker 7: the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Seeing some of the trades that all. That seems kind
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  Speaker 1: of Belichick.
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  Speaker 7: But I mean maybe this is kind of a sweet
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  Speaker 7: spot though for Patriots type thinking for wide receiver. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I always like this little place right here for the
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  Speaker 7: wide receiver. I think it's a it's a good spot
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  Speaker 7: for them.
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  Speaker 1: Continue.
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  Speaker 4: So who do you think the Seahawks moved up for.
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  Speaker 7: I mean maybe Ursery. It's as good a bet of
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  Speaker 7: any It's hard to see.
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  Speaker 8: The ed drushers. They are still there potentially too. But yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I like where your headsat with Jayden Higgins, Mike just
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  Speaker 8: Tank Dell goes down, that Nico Collins goes down last
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  Speaker 8: year too, you lose to Von Diggson free agency. You know,
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  Speaker 8: Higgins can play off of Nico Collins is more of
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  Speaker 8: like a big slot potentially, you know, chain mover, possession
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  Speaker 8: receiver doesn't have to be the downfield guy in that offense.
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  Speaker 8: I can see what they're going for now they I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Going to study your size.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to stun you because you know what I
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  Speaker 5: think of you know, the offensive line. But wasn't the
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  Speaker 5: biggest problem last year that could not protect CJ. Stroud
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  Speaker 5: and they got rid of arguably the best offensive lineman
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  Speaker 5: and they haven't.
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  Speaker 7: I mean we all kind of assumed, oh, they're going
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  Speaker 7: to just swap them out and put one of these
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  Speaker 7: other tackles.
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  Speaker 5: The pick in for Seattle, you know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so they traded number fifty two in number eighty
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  Speaker 8: two to go to number thirty five.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, fifty two. Any chance that Seahawks are in the
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  Speaker 4: door Sanders market?
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  Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I mean absolutely. I don't know why you
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  Speaker 5: would trade up for him, but yeah, they could take absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland is right behind him, so maybe.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: But I think Cleveland is like Cleveland is broadcasting to
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: everybody that they don't want them, Like why wouldn't you
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: take them if you wanted them?
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: Because you didn't want to spend you didn't want them there,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: Know, four picks, two picks later, you want them.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure that, like I keep bringing up Garoppolo,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sure the Patriots like Garoppolo, they're just never we're
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: going to take them. In the first round, but we'll
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: take them in the second round.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just but they just took a second
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: rounder and didn't take them. This is what I'm trying
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: to say. They're trying to let people know that they're not. Now,
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: maybe they're just trying to I could, I could. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: could absolutely see Seattle taking them. No, I mean, you
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: signed Sam Darnold.
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: Well, i'd feel bad for him. What did you like, Sam,
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: here's the guy, but now you got this thing hanging.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Here's the quarterback. But you know, you take a developmental backup.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, that doesn't I don't think that that necessarily
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: makes anything bad for.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: By the way, last night's show we got the numbers in,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: was the highest watched draft show that we've ever done.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: So I want to thank everybody for watching last night.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: The highest draft show that we've ever done. We've done
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of draft shows. We've done a lot of.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: You gotta think Rivers and Tides was high. But that's
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: just me.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Well, if people had known we were going to get
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: into that fight at.
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: The time, and so the Seahawks picks in, it's Paul's guy,
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: Nick Amnewery. Oh there you go, out safety goes to Seattle, so.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Woh, treat it up.
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: Gotta have them, gotta have them, have them, gotta kid
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: not get them.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: A lot of guys had a first round grader and
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: just because Evan didn't like, I mean, no one else.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Bugler had a He was in the top thirty two.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Number seventeen.
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: I will fully be accepting that I could be very
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: wrong about him. Besides the athletic testing, I just didn't
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: see it on the field.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: It so it's funny I'm to be in full disclosure
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: here because everyone was so adamant last time. I was like,
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: may maybe I'm just I missing. So I read a
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: little bit of stuff about him today and about the
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: only real negatives I could find was that some people
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: question how he would sort of take some time off,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: like it wasn't didn't always play with the same urgency,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: you know, so maybe the motor wasn't always there, not
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: a Mike Verbel guy. But what, oh Jesus when when
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: we when we played, Because you know, there's a lot
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: of coaches in the league that like players who take
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: time off some more forgiving you know what, I don't
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: need you in the second quarter. I don't worry about
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: the first case yourself. So I did. I did read
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: that as a negative that you know, sometimes he plays
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: like a bat out of hell, coming up and stopping
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: the run, and other times, you know, sort of allowed
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: himself to get blocked and wasn't quite as noticeable. But yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: when you see him play and you watch his highlights,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I was really good.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: I think that the things that I saw with him
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: were just when he was basically playing in space as
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: like a free safety type or even in the robber role.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: You know, the more in space he was, the more
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: rigid and stiff he was as a mover. If you
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: play him in the box close to the line of scrimmage,
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: you play him over the slot, have him covered tight ends,
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: like do that sort of stuff like almost like you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: a Kyle Duggar or a.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Jeremy Chin against Mason Taylor in one.
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he could do stuff like that if
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: you ask him to ballhawk and like play over the
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: top of the defense or play in the middle of
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: the defense as like a zone defender. I just thought
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: that the tape was pretty was pretty rough, and I
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: didn't see the open field speed you know that he
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: tested with really translating I'll be wrong on him if
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: I'm wrong on him. I just I think that there
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: he got really hyped in this process because of how
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: good of a workout he had at the Combine, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: I thought that he was kind of in this range
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: more than where he was being discussed.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: Do you see like a fit for him in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Mike McDonald ravens kind of style of defense.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Well, they're probably.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: Thinking that he's Kyle Hamilton to point zh and I
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: just thought Kyle Hamilton's instincts and ability to play in
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: space were way better than I'm and worry like, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: think like he's more like Jamal Adams than he is
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: Kyle Hamilton. But we'll see.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: So do we know who these Seahawks picked?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's some worry, right, Yes.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Okay, the player we just spent the last time I
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: talk about. So, I just I really did you know?
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Cleveland came right back up and I was really sweating
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: it out after. I was so adamant to you that
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: they weren't going to take Sanders and they didn't. But
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: another strange pick to me, Quinn John Judkins instead of
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Travon Henderson.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Oh that's what.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I took Quinn Judkins at thirty six that I
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: was like to me, it's almost like I thought they
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: should have taken genty at five. You could have gotten
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: genty light. Yeah, right at whatever the thirty six and
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: they went with kind I mean good running back. John
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Kins is not a stiff. I don't want to make
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: it out to be that. I think he's He's not good,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: but I think Anderson is the better player than.
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: You guys a little bit. Yeah, I think they were.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: It was a coin flip for a team, Like a
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: lot of people had them kind of neck and neck
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: and sort of a flavor thing like Judkins is more
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: kind of one warrant. Yeah, Judkins is an angry runner,
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: like he's a downhill angry runner. He's gonna run people over,
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: he's gonna wants.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a tone setter.
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: Henderson's uh, you know, Breese Hal Jamir Gibbs. Like he's
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: a space player. He's an explosive player. So if you
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: if you wanted you know more of I think Judkins
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: can probably fit more in like a volume role as
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: an early down running back and somebody that could probably
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: tote the rock a little bit more. But Henderson's going
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: to be the guy that's going to make the bigger plays.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: So so who on uh the Twitter is getting the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: picks early?
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: A lot of people are a lot of people. Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: I think most people try to stay off tipping, uh
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: you know, on night one, to just kind of let
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: the spectacle happen. But now tonight, I think all the
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: gloves are off.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just kind So the Browns have picked their guy,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: The Raiders are up the hole, and then the Patriots
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Patriots are on deck as we speak.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: So I mean, because there a guy for the Patriots
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: and I know they're only on deck, but guy that
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: you'd really like to see Jalen Nole.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Uh Ezeraku Scordon, those are those are the two?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Pretty nice to take the BC kid, Yeah, I think
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the Jalen Knowle here, Yeah, I would.
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: Luther Burden is still there. I think I assume that
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: Luther Burden is off a lot of people's boards.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I like, but I'm just assuming that, yeah, something's up,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: he's off.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Azeraku makes a ton of sense.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I would rather pick Burden. I just want to state
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: that before we make the pick. I don't want to
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: get called a fraud when we pick Burden. I'm like
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: oh great, yea, because I like Burden better. But clearly
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: there's something about him that's causing him.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Get a wide receiver room that you think needed some maturity.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's not the best person to bring into it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, ye I've you've added digs though, and I would
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: hope that you know he's going to bring in just
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: an element of setting the bar high and reinforcing some
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: of those expectations.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think ask who you know makes a ton
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: of sense for them. Boston College kid, they had probably
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: a great intel on him, tested really well, had sixteen
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: sacks last year at BC, second in the FBS and sacks.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: I think that he has the type of play, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: style that fits him. I actually compared him to Harold Landry.
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: I think they're similar players in the way that they run,
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: they Russian in the way that they win. So I
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: could see that making a lot of sense.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: When we were at Boston College for his pro day,
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: Bill O'Brien said that Doug Marone did a lot of
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: behind the scenes stuff with Eziraku and was working with
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: him behind the scenes on this is what the linemen
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: are going to do to you? So how do how
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: are you going to counter what an offensive lineman is
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: going to do to you, that type of thing. So
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: he has a pretty good relationship with the player, knows
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: him pretty well. So if I had to guess if
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: they're going to go edge, I think as Iraku makes
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: a ton of sense. Maybe running back here, maybe they
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: go Trayvon Henderson.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: What I hope for? Yeah? Wait, a couple emails at
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: podcasts at Patriots dot com, Ryan in Nebraska, here's what
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I'd like to see in wonder your thoughts at thirty
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: eight or a slight trade back og preferably Ratledge from Georgia.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: But I'm intrigued by Millim in savanaa running back top
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: of the third. My prediction, however, at thirty eight is
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: an Ohio running back. So despite what he wants, he
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: thinks they're gonna take an Ohio State running back Henderson. Yep, yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't hate.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't hate that bit.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: I'd I just I think it's a little soon for
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: another guard. Yeah, just at some point you gotta let
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: those guys compete. I'm not against it. Maybe a little
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: bit farther down, but for right now, I want I
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: want to take a swing.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe Andre in New Jersey. First thing, Evan was on fire.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: And I'm not just saying about his heated arguments, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: the way he dressed yesterday was very sharp. Unlike the
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: rest of you guys, they will say, I'm very disappointed
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: with the wardrobe. I know Paul can't afford a new car,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: but I expected better of him. As for the pick,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I loved it. We needed a stud and that's exactly
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: what we got. As for the fans that call in,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: why the hell can't you ever be pleased and always whining?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Just be happy with the pick and for May not
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: to be killed this season. Also, Evan, happy that you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: get to go to Kendrick Lamar and I'm going next month.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: He's my second favorite rapper behind eminem.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Oh good picks.
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: Thank you for all the compliments.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I appreciate you love the chastising with the people who
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: don't agree with him. Why can't you just be happy
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: with the pick? I don't know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that that's That's exactly what I was going
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: to say, Like, it's not not everybody has to be
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: happy about the pick. If you didn't like the player,
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: you didn't like him, you know we're all happy.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean, you have to be negativity that's in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: this town sucks.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: I agree.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Rick Rick backer from Uvalde, Texas Dolphins, are the trade
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins traded. Okay, a while back, you wondered how
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: different mock drafts from December January were to the actual draft.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: This is a mock draft by Field Yates from December eleventh,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, which means the draft order hadn't been set.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Interesting takeaways Number one Giants Chador Sanders, two Raiders Cam Ward,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: three Patriots Travis Hunter in forour Carolina Abdul Carter.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: So yeah, that was I mean, that was the period
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: where you feel like we're feeling out the quarterbacks. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: we talked about a little yesterday, we're cam Hoard all
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: of a sudden, because I would say after that, there
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: was i'd me when you thought it was Carter.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: At the end of the football season, it was Sanders Ward, Yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: and then once you got into combine season, it was
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Ward Sanders in the quarterback rankings. Now, Sanders I think
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: has continued now once you started getting into the combine
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: in the interviews and then the thirty visits and everything else,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I think Sanders has gone even lower.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: So Patriots are on the clock. Dolphins have made the pick.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: They're taking Jonas Savanilla, the guard from Arizona. So they
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: jumped the one up to above the Patriots to take
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: a guard. So the Patriots are now on the cloth.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: It feels like we're a little all over the place.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just I got Brugler's top one hundred
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: years to cross off and kind of keep track a
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: little bit. But you're getting now into guys. It seems
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: like as as we knew coming into this draft, a
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: lot of people set it in the lead up that
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: there's just a lot of similarities in this would second
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: like right, so it's it's I think you're gonna sit
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: st jumping all over Fitz draft.
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, seventy is a perfectly
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: fine player. I think it's interesting in that offense because
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: he's a big dude, like he's kind of built like
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: Mike onn Wentu. So outside zone scheme with a player
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: that's playing at three thirty, three hundred and forty pounds
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: not typically the type of lineman that those types of offenses
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: like to take, so it's an interesting fit. You know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: he's a really good athlete, but he's still built the
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: way he's built. I'm interested to see what are there
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: going on.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: I like that trade because I was worried that the
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Raiders would take a receiver. Okay, so I'm glad that
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Miami jumped in front of him and took a guard
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: because I don't think the Patriots would take it guard right.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean some people think they would.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: I guess maybe the Dolphins did. I mean, seventy is
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: their type of player. He's more their type of player
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: than Miami's type of player. That's why I'm kind of surprised.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: I think he's a good player, So I'm not trying
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: to kill the player.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not killing the pick.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: I don't I don't understand the scheme when you see
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: big and powerful and you see three hundred and twenty
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: four pounds next to his name, and then you're gonna
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: put him and have him running in that offense like
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: we went outside zone and trying to get outside the
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: hashes and and run the ball to the perimeter and
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: things like that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He's a big boy, big dude, so he's one to have.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Like he's one right right tackle in college and he
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: just going right inside the guard, there's not even a question.
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: With Yeah, most likely. I think that if he was
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: in the right type of system, like if he was
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: in a downhill scheme, then he probably could have played
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: right tackle in the NFL. He's got the length, he's
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: got the athleticism for it. But my guess is that
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: he's probably going to be best at guard. But I
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: think he probably could have held up at right tackle
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: if a team wanted to keep him out there.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a lot lot of offensive eyes just tweeted,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: you know, if the Dolphins needed linement and they were
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: running out alignment, So maybe that's why they just said
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: we got to go up and get one. Yeah, before
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: they're all gone, I'm just just sing them with ursery.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's, you know, another potential option for them
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: that they passed on.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: But Patriots are on the clock. Reck writes in from Dallas,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: fantastic show. It's obvious why the viewership grows every year.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: You guys are by far the best draft coverage out there.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Can you expand on anything you're hearing on the potential
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: for Cavan Tibbitt, the bow Thibodeau being available if the
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: reporting is true and he might be available for a
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: third or fourth, should the Patriots have any interest.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I thought I saw reporting
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: last night that they were still planning to pick up
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: his option, and.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: I know that he was very excited about the pick,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: at least publicly.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: NASCAR package.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I made that comment last night. The
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Giants have had a lot of success with multiple edged
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: kind of players.
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I can see it. Like I said
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: last night, Abdul Carter is one of those guys that's
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: a chess piece. You move them around the defensive front.
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: He doesn't have to just rush off the edge. He
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: can play off the ball, he can play inline over
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: the garden center like he's a Micah Parsons. He's a
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: chess piece.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: And one of the things that people have been critical
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: of Carter about, you know, in terms of his red
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: flags his character, he doesn't you know, play the run
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: as well. Yeah, he's not as not as committed to
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: play in the run. So well, maybe you don't ask
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: him to, at least initially, and you ask him to
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: be strictly a pass rusher off the edge, and you
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: play Thibodeau more on the edge on early downs, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: I don't think Thibodeau is necessarily known as a run
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: stopper either, But I think you can find a way
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: to get three talented players on the field.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, the clock is they're letting the clock tick
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: a little bit with this pick.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: Seems like there's a lot activity going on with trades
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: and stuff. I assume they're probably taking calls trying to
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: measure what.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're under.
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: Two minutes on the clock right now for the Patriots and.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Pedro and Rio. Evans comments yesterday about some players not
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: getting the opportunity to attempt to play tackle even though
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: the league doesn't have enough made me change my opinion
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: about Campbell.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: That's what he did to me.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: One, not about Campbell, but about the whole Dutch, the
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: whole history of the short arm tackle.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: One thing is for sure, his body is odd. Doesn't
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: look like a tackle. He looks like a chubby kid
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: that got put on a man's six y five body,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: and yet somehow he's one of the most athletic tackles
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: ever based on combine numbers. Now, I'm all for it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Evan's comments really hit me. Get me a wide receiver today.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think he's chubby at all. I mean,
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: he was in here with us and he's that's a
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: that's a Charle Taldrins.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Sort of a cherubic face.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well he is only twenty one.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's young.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but he I mean he's all he's every bit
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: of six six three twenty when he was in here
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: with us.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: The fact that he's like my son's age is really
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: kind of blown me away, a little bit, a little old.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: He's like six months older than my son.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what cock's still ticking?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Louis wants to know what.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: He blames a lot on genetics.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: So Louis wants to know what it would take to
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: move up to get Luther Burden. I don't think you're
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: gonna have to. If you want him him right now,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: you want him, you can have him.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: Oh there's there's no socks, no socks live.
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: You're right right in the corner waiting. I don't know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: this is interesting. We're under a minute. Yeah, they're really
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: taking We're.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Going to pass. Belichick is back. We're going to pass.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: So I have this google sheet that the NFL maintains,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: and I can't make any changes to it. It's a tracker,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: but I can see when the person's about to do something,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: and he just highlighted the Patriots block for the player.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: But because now I don't see any typing yet in yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: The red light is on him.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Is I know it is. I don't know it is
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: trying to stay off. I did not have it. Have
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it broken you by slack or Twitter?
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: But uh, there's nothing on it, Mike.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something going on.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: So I think that we're going to get some help
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: for Drake may.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Oh and.
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: Not just say it. Yeah, go ahead. Traveon Henderson running
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: back from Ohio State. So explosive, big play running back.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: I've compared him a little bit to Jamiir Gibbs. I
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: don't think he's quite Jamiir Gibbs, maybe more in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: breeze hall mold, but that similar archetype of those two guys.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: He's a explosive, big play, loose mover. I mean, this
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: guy can catch the ball out of the backfield. He's
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: gonna hit big plays in the run game. This is
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: a really nice pairing. I would say with Ramandre Stevenson,
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: you know, a little thunder and lightning action going on here.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: I would assume that he's going to play a lot
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: on third down. His pass blocking tape was pretty solid
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: as well. I love the player. I'm really crazy about
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: the player. I had him on my big board. I
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: didn't know they would go running back this early. I did,
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: but I was just so infatuated with the player that
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: I felt like he had to be on there and
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: I would be really excited about it. So I love
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: this pick for the Patriots. I loved him before the draft.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: It's a big play machine, so they got some explosiveness
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: that coming.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I like to pick a lot.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, even though it's a running back pall.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: It's a playmaking running back though. And this is where
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: like I didn't use the fifth pick on the fourth
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: pick to get them, I'm getting him in the second round. Okay,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: perfectly fine. I think it's a really good pick.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the running back position in
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the draft. How do you manage it?
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: Said over the last few days, they've got to come
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: away with a running back in this draft. Whether it's today,
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: whether it's tomorrow.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of good backs.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: I like what they did just this is kind of
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: what we talked about with teams at the end of
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: the first round where you see what falls through the
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: cracks and then you make a move on what makes
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: the most sense of your team. I think this is
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: like Evan said, I think it's a slam dunk for them.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: It's another help for Drake.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: May NFL draft the New England Patriots select.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: But I go back to I go back to last year,
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: you know, with Elliot Wolf saying needed to weaponize the offense,
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: and I feel like that's.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: That's weaponized offense, you know, with digs.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: With this now with getting protection, feels like they're checking
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: the boxes that they really needed to check in.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I still think there needs to be filled.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But this is a guy who moves the needle for
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the team.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: See that first thing that he wrote there, Freddy, what's
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: that elite pass pro? Okay, so what does that tell
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: you for Josh McDaniels.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: He wants him as his passing.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Back, speedback, passing back playmaker who can pass protect.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, when this guy can literally make things happen.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: That's a route down the field. It's not just like
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: you know, tell people what you There was a little
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: double move on the outside, kind of reminiscent of James White,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: where you know, sort of lining up one on one
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: with a linebacker, abusing them with a pass route, not
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: just swinging out of the backfield, and kept in sixty
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: five passes for sixty eight yards the way they've done
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: in the past, the recent past, with their backs. This
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: guy's I really like this pick a lot for You're
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: not gonna make me like.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: You're not putting me in a corner.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't like.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: I like it because because you always tried to start
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: at the beginning of this show telling me I didn't
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: like the Will Campbell pick, which I did.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I think when you watch, you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: running backs like Jamior Gibbs, running backs like Burisse Hall
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: around the NFL, and you see guys that can get
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: into space and just make things happen. And that's what
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: Traveon Henderson is. He is a space back, he's a speedback.
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: He's an explosive, big playmaker. I really just thought watching
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: him on tape in the College Football Playoff, in particular,
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: the way that he was destroying pursuit angles by really
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: good defenses and really good high level of competition was
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: extremely impressive. And I love the pick. I love the player.
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: I'm pretty excited about what they're doing here offense because
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: Will Campbell a really good run blocking left tackle as
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: well as a good pass blocker. Now you get a
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: speedback in the backfield too, Like this is trying to
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: help out Drake May. I know it's not a receiver
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: per se, you know, a classic pass catcher, but all
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: these pieces that they're adding are helping Drake May.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: So barring any trade, we've got a ways to go.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: The Patriots will pick fifth in the third round.
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: If I may, Fred, if I may. The NFL just
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: made an announcement about some new uniforms that are coming
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: this year. Oh you don't mind if I'm sure there
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: will be many fans interested in this because the AFC
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: East is in fact one of the first teams. I'll
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: just read it a little bit about it. NFL and
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: Nike launch rivalries program with new uniforms and fan gear
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: inspired by communities.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: What's to know Rivalries. The NFL and Nike's.
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: New uniform and fan gear program will elevate NFL rivalry
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: games over the next four seasons. The first cohort of
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: rivalry teams are from the AFC East and the NFC West.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: Will wear uniforms born from local community insights during select
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: home games.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Against division right, like City connect for like City Connects.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: So the Patriots, yes, folks, they will have new uniforms
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: in this rivalry program.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: How often are they going to wear them?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: It sounds like over the next four years and select
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: home games against division rivals, So Patriots against the throwback.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Is an addition in addition to Color Rush.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Well I don't know color Rush exists anymore, but yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: well throwback sure, And it said over the next four seasons,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: so they'll be releasing I guess two divisions each year.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Patriots are first up.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: And so yeah, guys, we are getting some new uniforms
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: for the twenty twenty five.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's exciting. I know everyone everyone's been clamoring.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I know, I know.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: Well it's some big news there too. So yeah, back
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: to back, get a ring back, you get a new uniforms.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: All right, like a whole new uniform or a new uniform.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: It's called the rivalry uniform.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: And again Paul inspired by the community, so inspired by
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: New England.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: As okay with these, so we're gonna have like lobsters
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: and right, just be a giant lobster uniform.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: All right, so the only drawback here is a difficult
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: first name to type. Now, I'm not happy with the
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: random capitol letters.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, you go.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: It's not that. It's not that bad.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks, I'm gonna need device myself.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Fuess not that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: So we've added a left tackle and we've added a
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: running back. Uh, and that'll be it for a while.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: We've got a you know, Patriots next pick is at
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: sixty nine. There could be a trade, you never know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: you could. You can come back up. They have two
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: picks in the third round. But in the meantime, as
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: I said at the top of the show, we did
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: have a chance to sit down with Will Campbell earlier
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: today as he made his rounds through the building and
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Matt Morrell, if if we're ready to go, let's let's uh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: let's watch that number one pick, fourth overall, Will Campbell,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Will welcome to the Patriots. I know you've been through
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: the car wash, so I know it's been a long day,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: so we're not going to keep you too long, but
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: we appreciate you stopping in.
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt, I'm super excited to be here. It's
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: an honor to represent this organization. And I just can't
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: wait for the future.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: So it's Mike, it's Evan, it's Paul, I'm Fred. We're
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: in house. So you're you're safe here. Don't worry about it. Safe,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: no doubt you were. We have what we call BTT guys.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Would you happen to know what that is? That's a
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: bang the table guy. So we were banging the table
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: for Will Campbell before the draft.
• 39:35
  Speaker 11: I'd like to hear that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to hear. We were all sold on
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: you being our left tackle, so we're excited about that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: So guys jumping, I mean, I gotta jump in.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: Well, just we watched you last night, right after you
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: were selected, and we watched you walk to the stage
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: and you were interviewed briefly and then you got emotional.
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: I think we've felt the emotion there for you. I mean,
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: just now we have a little bit of time away
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: from that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: What was last night like for you?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: What a whirlwind it all was?
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: He I mean, it was amazing. I put a lot
• 40:00
  Speaker 11: of work into, you know, last night, and you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: for me to be able to hear my name and
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: hear my name called early and you know, be able
• 40:07
  Speaker 11: to represent you know this organization, you know, with the
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: history that's behind this place, the championships, be able to
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: play for coach Variabel. It's everything I could have asked
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: for to, you know, be in this best position possible.
• 40:20
  Speaker 11: And I'm just super excited to get to work, meet
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: my new teammates, meet all of them, you know, build
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: that relationship with not only them but the coaches, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: just get back to playing ball.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: So I'm trying to wrap my head around Will Campbell.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: How do you describe your play style? I'm violent, nasty,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: you know, really physical player and this common measured, you know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: sort of way that you you answer the questions, and
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: you're really thoughtful and just even killed. How do you
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: mix those two things on and off the field. It
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: seems like your personalities are very different.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: You can see that switch under his armpitch.
• 40:58
  Speaker 11: Okay, okay, yes, my dad always talked about you got
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: to be able to flip the switch, be the cool, calm,
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: collected guy off the field. But whenever it's time to go,
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: they need to see a different you. And that's just
• 41:09
  Speaker 11: what I try to do. I try to be the
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: guy you know that's just a normal dude off the field.
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: I'm just like everybody else. I want to, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: be able to interact with people. I want people to
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: you know, know that I'm personable. I can really conversate
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: with whoever it might be. And but on the field,
• 41:24
  Speaker 11: you know it's time to go. And that's just kind
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: of the mentality going.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: To try that, Freddy, I'm always Paul goes from zero
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: to high like that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: We've heard the story now a million times about you
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: putting Rabel on his butt during the workout, which I love.
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: But I remember watching your tap against Texas A and
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: M and you took Nick scoring and you tort them
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: right out of the gap. He's two hundred and sixty pounds, right,
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: So when I heard that story about Rabel, I thought
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: of that block. But is there any other blocks that
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: stand out to you in your career at LSU that
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: are some of your favorites or to highlight reels or
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: anything like that.
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: I mean, I feel like I had a couple of
• 41:59
  Speaker 11: good ones. I don't really remember you know each of
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: them specifically, Yes, you do, not not enough, you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 11: but Uliss, she was everything I could have ever asked for,
• 42:11
  Speaker 11: you know, in a university. I tried to represent it
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: in the best way possible, and I'm just super thankful
• 42:17
  Speaker 11: for everything that they did for me and my family,
• 42:19
  Speaker 11: you know, my three years there, and you know, even
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: though I'm a long way from Louisiana, I will still
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: represent the right way.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, forget about football for a second. I want to
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: talk about the sporting goods compy store that you've been
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: in your family for a long time. How cool was
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: that growing up? Like you just walk inside, I need
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: a new baseball club. And my father owned a hardware store,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: so all I could get was paint, you know.
• 42:39
  Speaker 11: So you know, yeah, no doubt. I mean, whenever I
• 42:43
  Speaker 11: would go in and I'd be like, Mom, I need
• 42:45
  Speaker 11: new shoes, she'd be like, that's not.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: How it worked.
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: That's how it's working today, you knew, and she would
• 42:52
  Speaker 11: she would usually take care of me. But yeah, it
• 42:54
  Speaker 11: was definitely pretty cool. My grandpa started that. I think
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: he had probably about seven or eight stores now is
• 42:59
  Speaker 11: down one right down the street from my high school,
• 43:02
  Speaker 11: probably about three or four minute drive from my house.
• 43:04
  Speaker 11: My mom, you know, a few other people have been
• 43:06
  Speaker 11: working there for a long time, so it's pretty cool.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is I think that'd just be cool. And
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: you get a lot of friends too. Hey, well, can you.
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: Be all the drama goes out?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Ye?
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: Hear everything in there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: The high school stuff. I wanted to ask you about
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Andrew Whitworth and your he I think he went to
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: the same high school. Now we went to Rival okay
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: Rival High School, but he was someone you really looked
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: up to, you know, being from your area.
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 43:32
  Speaker 11: You know, whenever you're a young, aspiring offensive lineman and
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: you know you want to be the best, you look
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: at guys like him and Cam Robinson, even though they
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: went to the rival high school that I don't really
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: care for too much. I'd probably say some vulgar words
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: about him if we weren't on air, but yeah, I
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: mean they did it the right way. They went about
• 43:52
  Speaker 11: their business from a young age in high school to college,
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: even though Cam went to Alabama. But you know, whenever
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: you look at guys like that, they've been successful at
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: every level that they played at. They've also been great
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: in the community, and that's something that I wanted to do.
• 44:08
  Speaker 11: So I really looked up to both of those guys.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: Well, you were asked about working with Duke Manniweather this offseason.
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: Everybody that doesn't know is a very well known offensive
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: line guru trainer. Just what have you guys been working
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: on to get ready for your rookie season?
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean really just everything. You know, he's the
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: best I think, you know, this past offseason or this
• 44:27
  Speaker 11: past season, he had eight or nine Pro Bowlers that
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: you know he trained specifically. So that's something that I
• 44:33
  Speaker 11: want to be a part of any way that you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: he can critique my game and help me put the
• 44:37
  Speaker 11: best product on the field. It's something that I'm interested
• 44:40
  Speaker 11: in every off season. So I've really enjoyed the time
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: that I spent with him so far. He's taught me
• 44:46
  Speaker 11: a lot, just you know, expanding my game in every aspect,
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: and it's something I continue to look forward to.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: I have a quick question for you, you know, kind
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: of off the beaten path. We live here in New England.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: We have Boston College, but we don't really have what
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: you guys have in terms of college football. You're in
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: the SEC, which is the NFL of college football. What's
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: the best venue besides LSU? What's the best venue if
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: I wanted to see if I could go down and
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: take a trip to watch a major college football game,
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: which I've never really done. What would you recommend?
• 45:16
  Speaker 11: Really honestly, you know, every venue in the SEC except
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: maybe two or.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Three are at Vanderbilts out.
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: I'm not going to say anything, but I mean, like,
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: I played at some really cool places. The most underrated one,
• 45:31
  Speaker 11: I feel like, in my opinion was Auburn at Jordan Hare. Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 11: that's a pretty electric environment. Florida has a great environment. Uh,
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: Texas A and M. I never played at Tennessee, but
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: I kind of figured that Tennessee is probably number two,
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: right behind us, and then Kyle Field and then probably
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: Bryant Denny Cool.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: So really a lot to choose from.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you feed off that environment?
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: There's so many clips that I've seen of you leading
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: the true leading the Tigers out of the locker room,
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: you know, out of the eye black line, you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: going into battle. It just seemed like that really you
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: were in your element in those moments.
• 46:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, if if you can run
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: out in front of you know, that many people and
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: not get some chills on your spine, you're not a
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: human being.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: That's what it's about.
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: And you know every you know, Saturday, we just want
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: to represent the state in the best way that we
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: possibly can, you know, just go out there and put
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: the best product on the field. And but yeah, I
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: mean it's it's amazing. You know, playing an SEC is
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: everything I could ask for.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: So are you going right home after this? You're going
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: out to dinner tonight? Like, what's what's the plan?
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: We're actually staying here tonight. I can't remember the name
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: of the restaurant. It's right here in Patriots Place. I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 11: gonna go where you did.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: If it's Davio's. They make good steak, that's right.
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: I actually went there on my thirty visit. That's where
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: I'm going. Uh, went there on my thirty visit. They
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: tried to get me to try a clam chowder.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't do it. It's good you should.
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: We'll see.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Have you had lobster?
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like like lobster okay? Oysters? Yeah?
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: Okay, all right, but I whenever you know, Bravey, when
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: them came down, I put them on some real char
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: grilled oysters. There you go, the butter, that cheese, all that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Oh all right, Well listen, well, I know it's been
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: a long day. We really appreciate you coming in and
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: we're really excited about you being a Patriot.
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: Yes, sir, I'm super excited.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Thank you welcome Yeah, thanks, yeah you too. All Right.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: That's Will Campbell. Yeah, he's he's everything they said he's.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: He's a great kid, a.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Little bit of a serious football guy my SFG rating,
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: which I like about him, certainly an offensive football guy.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I've had that one for a little bit.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: But I just you can see the switching him of.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: And I was saying to Paul in between the interview
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: and coming back on the air, like that guy's got
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: to deal with some tough, big, mean dudes.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Every snap is a battle. Every snap is against.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: The toughest guys that there are in the NFL. I mean,
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: a lot of those edge players are among the biggest, fastest,
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: meanest guys out there. So you know, I get I
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: lot of respect for anybody who's going to go out there.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And line up against those kind of guys.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: And he seems like he has the demeanor to deal
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: with it and excited. Just love that energy that he's
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: going to bring adding it to that offensive line room.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to get him laughing though.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: You got them a couple of a little bit, Yeah,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a couple.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Of yeah, you he cracks him up with the bang
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: the table. I think he kind of chuckled at that,
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: and then you're you're talking about you know, all you
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: got was painted and the hard waist. Think you liked
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: that one too.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so he's going to be a leader in
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: this locker room, I'm sure.
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: The only question I was just curious to ask him
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: about it to get a chance was just wearing the
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: number seven on his jersey.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I was going to ask him that too.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: How did I forget that?
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Is that the kid?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's an explosive playmaker. I think it is
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: a playmaker.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: It started with Patrick Peterson, you know, at LSU, and
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: they have it, you know, a small seven on their uniforms,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: and I just wonder I wanted to ask him, you know,
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: sort of the history of it, how rare is it
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: is it to get it for an offensive lineman. I
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: think he is the first one, you know, and that
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: that's kind of what I was interested in. I know
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: that they have like a lot of college programs. I
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: think the number eighteen is sort of special at LSU
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: in terms of you know that the a variety of
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: different positions can wear it, but like for an offensive
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: linemen to get a playmaker designation has to be kind
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: of rare.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I go back to like the videos
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: that we had early in Brady's career when he was
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: just starting out and him going out with the lineman
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: and trying to keep up with the lineman drinking and
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: all that. There's always been this like perception that the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: linemen hang out together and they go out and they
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: just they drink, right, And I wonder if that's still true,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: and if this kid is one of those guys who
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: like he's, like you said, serious football guy, but when
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: it's time to like go out in the bar with
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: the friends, like he has a good time. I wonder.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I'm gonna say.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: For I think some of the case with those kind
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: of guys, I feel like, oh, yeah, they're there, they're drinking,
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: but you would never know it. They're completely level headed
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: as well. He's had twenty five beers and he's just
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: sitting there kind of enjoying the music.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: So I'll tell you who he kind of reminds me
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: of is Mankins.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. With his low he
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: like just over and.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I was just watch I was just watching Matt. I
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: was just watching Matt, you know, you know, punches, punch
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: him on the head, you know, just like no, no,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: big woo.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: So okay, good stuff. So while we were doing that,
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: we did have some picks here defensive Luther Burdens gone,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: he went to the Bears. Uh and guess who's not gone.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Sanders is still out there.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Guess who is gone? Tyler another another quarterback.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Quarterback went over Sanders. So that's that's is he going
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: from legendary to like just pretty good. So what we're
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: talking about Sanders, like he calls himself.
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: Legend Yeah, I feel like his handling of the pre
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: draft process is what's really coming back to bite him.
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: I don't think there's anything to do with Dean or
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: anything like that necessarily, other than.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: The fact, either I think if he was really good.
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, other than maybe the fact that Dion is the
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: one advising him. You know, he he handled this process
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: like he was a top quarterback, like he was Drake
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: may or Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels. You know, didn't
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: throw at the combine, didn't work out anywhere, threw at
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: his pro day, and you know, like all these other
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: top quarterbacks do and didn't interview very well. And so
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: here we are in the second round, and the other
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: Tyler Shook, who's like twenty seven years old or something
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: like that, is going ahead of him, whose.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: Dog is very excited that he just got drafted.
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: Good for the dog.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: He wanted, he wanted in on the celebration.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Good for the dog, Good for good for the dog.
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: Tyler Shuk's twenty five years old. I'm sorry I aged
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: him a little bit.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: He is one of those six or seven year college.
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: Seven year senior.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he went to the Saints, who
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: was another team that needed a quarterback. So listen, I
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: don't know about trades and what can happen, but the Jets.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: I suppose the Jets could take a quarterback of the
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: future if they're not necessarily sure that Justin Fields is
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: going to be there for long. But I don't know.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of teams that would necessarily look at
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: this and say I need to take Sanders. Yeah, you
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: could be looking at the third round.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Isaac writes in Patriots have chosen, But what's your take
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: on Burden versus Henderson. This is my first draft. My
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: son happy to have a New Patriot in my family,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: and thank you for being so amazing. Greetings from Winnipeg.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: I would have been just as happy if they had
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: taken Burden, Yeah, I would have. But I really like him.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: I just wanted offense.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: I want I want playmaker offense. It's not like, you know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: maybe he can develop into a possession receiver. I wanted
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: a playmaker. That's why the more that Mike and Evan
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: talked about Jalen Knowle, the more they were selling me
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: it's not just like in a nine yard per catch
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: slot guy. He's a downfield slot guy. So absolutely, I
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: mean I was wrapping my head around that too. I
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: wanted a playmaker.
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll see what happens at sixty nine and seventy seven.
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: Like I'm not going to come on right now and say,
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: what a horrible decision to take Henderson over Burden, because
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: they could check Jalen Knowle in the third round or
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: Kyle Williams in the third round, which were very similar
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: type of players that are going to accomplish similar type
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: of things with their skill sets. So we'll see. But
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: I think the one thing we were kind of talking
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: about this when the interview was going on Paul Is.
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: Clearly Luther Burden had something going on with teams behind
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: the scenes because he was not the thirty ninth best
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: player in the draft. He was a much better player
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: than that. So let's just put our thinking caps on
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: here for a second and ask ourselves why did he
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: fall to thirty nine? Then well, if the Patriots are
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: gonna be about culture and they're going to be about
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: these things, then that's probably not the type of guy
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: that they're going to draft.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: At least not yet.
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: They're not right for that yet, right or wrong, Like,
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: maybe it will be coming back to bite them that
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: they didn't take Burden, but that type of guy clearly
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: was not on their board.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: So you know what I think is funny just looking
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: a couple of things league wide. So you know, we
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: talked about and Evan just talked about him sliding a
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: little bit because of you know, potentially some character issues.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: He goes to Chicago and you know, there's been a
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: lot of criticism for the Patriots. You know, certainly at
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: the end of the Belichick era, they want to win
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: every game seventeen thirteen or thirteen ten. Is Rabel doing
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: the same thing? You know, all the free agent signings.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: You know most of them are on defense. Well, Ben
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Johnson's trying to win games forty five to forty two. Yeah,
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: you know, he's taken, Colston Loveland, he's taken now, Luther Burden.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: You know, they already had roma Dunes last year with
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: the rookie quarterback. They loaded up on their offensive line
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: and free agency. I don't know if they're going to
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: stop anybody, but they're going to be able to score
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: some points. With Ben Johnson one of the more creative
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: offensive minds and a really good cast of skilled position guys,
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: they're going to score. You know. That's the way Detroit
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: kind of played last year. Now, part of it was
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: because of the injuries on defense, but the defense wasn't
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: very good. They got they got out to Leeds, they
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: did the old time sort of Patriots thing. They bludgeoned
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: you with offense and made their defense look better as
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: a result. That's what looks like Chicago's trying to do
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: right now. That's what Cincinnati, yeah does So it's different.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah sort of mindsets.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I like those.
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: It's fascinating because they did. Two teams just took quarterbacks
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: last year right at the top of the draft. So,
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: I mean the Bears in the Patriots are. We're in
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: the same exact position a year ago, two teams that
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: needed quarterbacks, and to Paul's point, they've built it differently,
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: and now we'll find out in a year or two
• 55:28
  Speaker 8: you know which team is building it correctly. Yeah, it
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: can go either way.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: You could put Washington in that mix too. Yeah, they've
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: sort of, you know, focused a little bit on trying
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: to get some weapons around Jayden Daniels and we'll see
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: if it works.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: It's interesting.
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: I wonder how much of this, though, is in part
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: motivated from Ben Johnson coming from Detroit and being like,
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: it's stupid for me to try to think I'm gonna
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: stop that offense. I know what they're capable of. I've
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: got to play on their terms if I'm going to
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: want to beat those guys. But I wonder how it's
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: all gonna come together at the receiver position. You know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: you said said the same thing with Houston. You're seeing
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: some of these teams that you might look at on
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: the surface and think they got their guys. They seem
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: like they got you know, Nico Collins kind of a
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: number one like, but these teams are continuing to try
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: to stack wide receivers. And it's clearly a prevalent philosophy
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: out there amongst NFL teams that you can never have
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: too much explosiveness at wide receiver. And I mean, I
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: think it speaks to a lot of what we've talked
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: about with the Patriots, and you know, philosophically, what directions
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: should they go. Some teams, clearly though, are are taking
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: that very seriously and they're hoarding it.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: I just I like to look at different ways because
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: I get annoyed with what you got to build in
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: the trenches. Or now you need a strong defense. If
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: you can't stop anybody, you can't win. Defense wins championship.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: Or maybe we're just gonna try to we know we
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: have problems on defense, We're gonna try to compensate with just,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: you know, explosiveness everywhere. I think there's a lot of
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: different ways to win.
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: Now I'm not telling you one ways, right, because I
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: think there's a lot of different ways to win championships.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I mean it's easy to see Bill Belichick
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: might be in that position and say and really relish
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: the challenge of I got to try to slow this
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: Detroit offense down.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: How am I going to build the defense too?
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: You know, good pick for the Jets. Who they get
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Mason Taylor. Yeah, that's a good pick for them. Yeah, No,
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: you don't like Mason Taylor, He's fine.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: Well, if you're trying to buy a car because he's
• 57:16
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• 57:18
  Speaker 4: including those not seen on TV, go to buy a
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: Toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for deals from
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  Speaker 4: the official vehicle the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's go places.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, there we go, We're back. Yeah, all right.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: And you know what's easy bud Light. Yep, it's easy
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the official
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. So Mason Taylor
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: tight end goes to the Jets.
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I liked Mason Taylor. I feel like he was
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: a little bit overhyped. You know, there was a lot
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: of conversation about him potentially going in the first round.
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: But looking back on you know where I had him
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: like this is this is a good spot for the
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: Jets to.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: Take for your second round.
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, this is about where he probably should have gone.
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: There was a lot of conversations about him going higher
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: than this, and I thought he got a little bit
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: overrated during the process. But this is a good spot
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: for him. What I do like about him is just
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: a natural hands catcher and really good straight line speed.
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: But you see him go through that gauntlet drill at
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: the combine and it was like, that's you put that
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: on the teach tape of how you run that drill.
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: So he's got a lot of natural talents, obviously got
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: the bloodlines. So good player, good good draft so far
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: for the Jets. Membu Mason Taylor not a bad haul
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: so far for that.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Adam from Louisiana says, as an LSU alumni, I'm well
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: versed on the numbers, meaning for the football team, seven
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: represents the best playmaker on the team. It has generally
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: gone to a wide receiver defensive back. It has never
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: gone to alignment before Campbell. Number eighteen is given to
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: the leaders of the team. Going back to quarterback Matt
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: malk In two thousand and three, you go, but basically
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: everything you said, but now it's confirmed. Spiin Fresno, right, sin,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: can we put a hold on accepting Evan Scornsky argument
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: at face value, Paul wilted into Evan's soft lawnmower free
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: hands too easily. While it's a thoughtful, intriguing possibility to pose,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: I like some verification that coaches are really not giving
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: these measurably challenged college tackles adequate shots at that position
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: before shoving them into the guard role. It seems just
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: as plausible that those guys aren't living up to their
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: tackle billing in pro practice situations. Need more evidence and
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: definitely need more frothing at the mouth counter arguments from
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: the former fattest man in town.
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: Oh, I think that was a compliment.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: I just want to state it for the record. Now
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: I'm getting made fun of for not arguing enough.
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: Right and also for being skinny.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Paul.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: I don't mind the skinny because I'm still not skinny,
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: but I'm getting in front of for not arguing enough.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: No one's ever said that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: To me before. Al from Wisconsin Times like this. I'm
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: so thankful for Fred. You guys spend five minutes talking
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: about the guy the Seahawks picked, only for Fred to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: immediately chime in and say.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: So, do we know who the Seahawks pick, so Henderson
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: was the fourth running back taken. Right, there was two
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: in the first round and then the two Ohio State
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: guys tonight.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, yeah, I had Henderson real quick. I had
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: him as my running back three. I had him and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: Henderson and Judkins were really close for me. I thought
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: both those guys were. It's a flavor thing, you know.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: I preferred the speed in the big playability. But if
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: you preferred the power and the angry run ability, as
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: Deuce's friend Kyle Brand likes to say, then you know,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: Judkins is more your flavor. But I thought both those
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: guys were a top of the second round. I had
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: Henderson thirty second on my board and the Patriots picked
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: him at thirty eight, so they I thought they got
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 8: pretty good value with the pick here. But yeah, I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: had him as a top four running back and they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: took him as the fourth running back.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Joe in Darkness says, stop tipping picks. I want to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: listen to your stream, but this is a buzzkill, Like, well,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: so if you're listening to us, you're getting it, Like, like,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: what else are you doing that we're ruining right now?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: I don't understand how that's tipic, Like, if you're listening,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know this. This argument has never made sense.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: To Like what if you're saying, I want to wait
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: until the commit or you know, the TV announces it, So.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Why don't you go with the commit the commissioner for
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: tipping picks right? If you're finding out for the first time,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: it's not tipped right. Why do you care where you're
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: finding out for the first time?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Like, if you're listening to us, where your source?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Like if if we would if we were watching a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: game right now and you were watching the game on
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: TV and we were there alive and we were telling
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: you what happened in the game before you're seeing it,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: that's tipping what's happening? You get like, that's ruining it.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: I get it. Yeah, you're hearing information for the first time.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: Why do you care where.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: We get it for the first where the like why
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: can't we be your source?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: I also just think it's hard for us to have
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: a show and then to put the show on halt
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: to follow the TV. We would still be on the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: you know, five picks ago if we were matching up
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: with the TV. So to keep the show moving, we
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: kind of have to tell you what's going.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: But I'm open to like the reason why this is
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: ruining it for you? I don't understand, because like, if
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: you're listening to us, we're now your source to stick
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: with us.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and so it got to be listening along while
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: watching and just here.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: But like, what are you getting from watching that makes it? So?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: What is that? Why is it better to find out
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: there than here?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I just don't know.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: I'm asking you know, I don't know.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I, like I said, if if we were
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: ruining something that you didn't know was come, Like, so
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: we scored a touchdown and you don't know we score
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: a touchdown because you're watching on TV and we just
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: ruined it for you, right, I totally get that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: I don't.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's the difference of Roger Goodell tells
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: you who.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Kush and you're in your example, we're ruining the action
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: for you. There's no action, you know, like the action
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: is the this is the actions? The action's right here?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: What's that from?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: I was going crazy when we're waiting for this pick
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: to come in because I didn't see it on our
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: slack channels.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't see I wasn't looking at Twitter, like I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: had no idea.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: The show just kind of grinds to a hall for
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: you know, a minute.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Evan, Evan got it. What did you get it on Twitter?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I hadn't seen it on my feed, so
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: I didn't know. I learned it from watching.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I learned it from watching you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: Well, that's just my point, Like you know, Due just said,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: the show grinds to a halt, like if we just
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: sit here and wait for the pick to be an
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: ass on TV, and we're gonna be sitting here twiddling
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 8: our thumbs in between all these picks.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Children who drew drugs have parents.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Who right there it is.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: It just comes out, and it's the other way around.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: The parents are just.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Like I can make an ocean wave way. It's like
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the television from.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: The eighties just built balk like a penguin.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: From Burlington, Ontario rights in. He said, you guys, give
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: me eighteen vibes or ocean eight, Ocean eight, like Crew
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Paul's face in or Brad Pitt.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: Oh geez, oh wow wow.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: If I had known that I was going to get
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: to the action, I done lost waye long ago.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Fred Is Hannibal for George Clooney, Wow, take it. Evan
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: is Murdoch or Matt Damon.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: Means a lot less now George.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Evan is Murdoch or Matt Damon and Mike is be
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: a baracas for jet Lee except I think you all
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: talk Fred out of a tucks this year. Anyway, I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: think Cleveland is trying to tank for Manning next year.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: That's why they're taking solid role players who aren't win now, guys. Plus,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: they got the Jags picked next year and that might
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: be number two again.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: Oh see. I think the Jags are probably going to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: be okay. But I do think that there's some validity
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: to they're playing for the quarterback next year.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I think he's right, could be and I don't you know.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Now it's dangerous though, it's very dangerous.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: And Evan's point is, you know, like Berry and Stefanski
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: might not be around to do that, so it is
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: the roll of the dice. But I, as a.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Rock would just get taken Yeah by Dallas, good pick.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: I think there is risk that I think Everyan is
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: correct in that, but I feel like they really believe
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: in Stefanski.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah they do, I know, you know, and I mean.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Two years removed from going to the playoffs without a quarterback, right,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: you know who's to say, can he Pickett and Joe
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: Flaggo can't hold it together for a year and have
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: them win nine or ten games. Yeah, I don't think
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: that will happen. I'm not predicting that by any chance,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: by any means, but it could.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: I just think that. You know, my whole thing was
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: with Cleveland first of all, Like, no one knows if
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: arch Manning is any good. Like arch Manning hasn't played
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: any college.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: But no one knows if arch Manning is going to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: come out of the draft. It's not uncommon for the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: Mannings to stay or.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: Even be good.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Like he's more money.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: He's played one game at Texas, full game against I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: forget which team it was, but it's like Texas. Yeah,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: like one of those Like I'm pretty sure he's going
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: to be good. He might be good, but he might
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 8: not be We don't know.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: There's no guarantees.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: Hey, there's no guarantees. So I don't think any team
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: is preparing like, oh, like next year is like the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: Andrew Luck or the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, and we're going
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: to get in on that and if I was Cleveland.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't mean necessarily a notch maning. I'm saying
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: they're going to be in position to get the best quarterback, right.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: But do they want to put that quarterback in a
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: position to succeed and like draft players this year to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 8: set up that quarterback in twenty six. I don't like there.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: I definitely don't like the Mason Graham pick, right, you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: and I would have taken Anderson and not Judkins. Yeah,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: but that's just my that's why they've made bad picks.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: I don't think that their strategy has been bad. If
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: that makes sense, Yeah, that that made me makes sense.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: I just if you take Travis Hunter, like, yeah, the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: brown he probably doesn't make the Browns a winner overnight.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: But now when you draft the quarterback in twenty six,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: you're drafting him to throw the ball to Travis Hunter.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: So because you already have that piece in place, you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: can't throw the ball to Mason Graham.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: But what they're trying to do is increased their odds
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: to be able to get that quarterback next year. Taking
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter. That leads you only one opportunity you'll pick.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: They're trying to up the possibility, Like if if we're
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: not in position to get that quarterback, now we have
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: two picks to get in position to get that quarterback.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: That's what I think was part of I don't hate
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: the trade. I still and I know that. I mean,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: am in the vast minority. Everybody is with Evan on
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville made a great move. I think Jacksonville will actually
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: be decent. I don't think that that's a that's a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: team that had a bad record last year. Everything that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: could go wrong did. I don't think that that's a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: bad team. I really don't. And I think it put
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: a couple of things in place, and if Liam Cohen
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: knows what he's doing, he can fix Trevor Lawrence. I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: don't think it's out of the Roman possibility. They win
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: nine or ten games and they compete for the AFC
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Cell title. I don't think that that's crazy.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: The Boston College Edge Ezeraku went to the Cowboys.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: A nice picked by them. You like this guy, yeah,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: I do like Jt're going to try to pronounce his
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: last name. Yeah, heavy handed? You know stout edge defender,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: a good athlete, really good college football playoff performance and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: against six sacks in the College Football Playoff. Throughout the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: couple games that they played, I really liked him a lot.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: I thought that he would be on the Patriots radar.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: You know a lot of people obviously think that the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: Patriots are going to draft Jack Sawyer. I kind of
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: thought that JT was a better player than than Jack Sawyer.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: I totally agree.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I don't know if the Patriots thought that.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: But I thought he I had a higher grade on.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: So the other guy I wanted to get your thoughts
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: on because AFC East is TJ. Sanders.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so t J Sanders, you know, penetrating three technique,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: you know, a little bit of a one of those,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: you know, Milton Williams types of players. Yeah, Ed Oliver
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: maybe you know that's kind of like the top of
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: that archetype, you know, if you will. But I thought
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: he was a sturdy player. I thought he had some long,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 8: long arms. I can think he can shoot gaps. I
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: think you can penetrate the line of scrimmage, do that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: type of stuff. But I also think he can win
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: with power and win with speed. To pick for Buffalo,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: I think this is a better pick than their first
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: round pick. Yeah, I got Sanders was a pretty solid
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: player and it fits there for three. You know, whether
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 8: they play him a three technique or or the one shade.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: Either way, I think that he's going to be a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 8: pretty good player for them.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: Andrew in La says, please stop talking about the draft.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about Dev's batting average. This is
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: a caller on Coller crime.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: I'm here for Coller on Coller Crime.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: I would also say, at the risk of I'm going
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: to knock on wood here, I'm appreciating that the pick
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: seemed to be coming at a pretty good clip.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Terrence Ferguson, what is it seven minutes this round?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: I believe it's seven minutes this round, and then it
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: goes down to five.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: We're already like on pick fifteen.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: Now, yeah, we're about halfway through, almost halfway through the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: round or hour.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Ethan in La says, anyone listening to this live, why
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: are you listening to anything else? Keep tipping the picks.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: I don't want to wait the extra two minutes for
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: the pick to be told.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's and.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: Joe says, yes I am. I follow up by yes,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I am watching the broadcast and listening to you. Uh.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: The answer to Fred's questions, it's fun, okay, well, and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: Norman says, I disagree with anyone annoyed by tipping picks.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: I want to know as soon as possible. You guys
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: are doing a great job, keep it up, best draft
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: coverage without a doubt.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: I just would need a BIB for Fred. But I
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: would just wonder, like I like Fred, I think you
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: put it perfectly. I don't really understand if we're telling
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: you what the pick is, why that's considered tipping.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: It, all right, But because that's not action.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: Tipping the pick would be like we knew an we
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: knew an hour ago.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I start the pagers are gonna pick tonight.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: On the other hand, Dan says, the drama of hearing
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: the stage announced the pick is on the TV broadcast
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: is much more entertaining than hearing one of you guys
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: blurt out the pick randomly. It's just the way it is.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: I'm wanted to mute you guys for a couple of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: minutes before pick is in fair enough.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe were pump pumping, stir circumstance when we announced the picks.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Then you know, I like this one. Joe says, I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: can't explain what you're doing is tipping picks. I just
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: know I don't want to hear it from Deuce first,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: something about his face.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: It's just punishable.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: Just kidding. I love dudes. I'm just writing to take
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: credit for paul Is losing weight months ago, and also
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: to say there's no shot. Tides was a higher rated
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: show that was a Day three joint. That's true, that's true.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Was it day three that?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: I was in the middle of the draft party that
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: was day one because people were looking at you guys like,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: are you crazy. I've heard the story.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 8: I'm not heard yelling at each other.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: This is supposed this is supposed to be a draft party.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: We're having fun. Yeah, they're yelling about Tides.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of people tipping picks, tipping picks.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe we just put a warning up before we tip anything.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Harvey and Maine, what are we going to do about
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: wide receiver? Do we move up a bit or wait
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: until sixty nine and seventy seven? Seems to me like
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: we're waiting a bit too long.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: We'll see. I think that, you know, one of the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: things that they were they were trying to prioritize from
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: all the reporting that we heard is you know, players
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: that play outside the numbers at wide receiver. They wanted
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: to get a bigger you know what, a Paul's guy.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: It's a bigger X receiver. Some of they can play
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: out outside the numbers and compliment what they have was
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: Stefon Diggs and the Mario Douglas and those types of players.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: You know, Trey Harris from Ole, miss is probably the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: best player in that mold. That's still on the board.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: Jalen Knowle still on the board as well. Jack betch
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: is still on the board. Kyle Williams still on the board.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: You know a lot of people like Jalen Royals from
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: Utah State. He's also still available. So there's still wide
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: receiver talent available. I don't think that that's a there's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: any reason yet to be worried that they're going to
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: miss the boat on adding someone with some upside and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: some talent. If they draft Kyle Williams at sixty nine,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: we're all going to be happy. So let's just wait
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: and see what happens.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: You got to defense already, Evan, Can we have some
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: for the defense please?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: I mean how many? Well sign how much?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 10: How much.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: For these defensive guys I need like seven edge rushers.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: Like now you'll have your three, and you'll.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: Be got a lot more.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: But I always kind of felt like this would maybe
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 8: be how the board fell at edge, because there's gonna
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: there's so many talented edge rushers in this class that
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: your third fourth round range you can still get a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: guy that you feel like has some developmental upside and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: starter upside. Or maybe it's a guy that's more specialized,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: you know, like a pass rush specialist, like a Jusiah
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: Stewart from Everett, Massachusetts and also from Michigan. Like maybe
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: it's one of those types of players where it's okay,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: we're envisioning him in a third down role instead of
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: a full time role, but you're still so much talent
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: on the board of that particular position that I do
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: think you can get one sixty nine, seventy seven, one
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 8: oh six even.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be okay with that.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: Like I think even the not Joshua specifically, but that
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: josh type where maybe you don't work out as a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: three down layer, but you can come in and bring
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: some juice on third down. So we don't have I mean,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: you can't rely on Harold Landry and claveon Chase on
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: to play all three downs. You know, they need some
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: other rotational piece there, preferably some young, lively.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Legs that they can get off to the edge and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: get off to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to really have to remember Josiah Stewart because
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: he's going to be the last one. Yeah, it would
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: be my last. Every guy for a while.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Really, No, that was when you stopped coaching in the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: town and at the town level.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: Just I never coached any of these boys.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: I'll just recruited as far as you know. Let's see
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: eight five five past five hundred is the hotline. Let's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: go to it. Sean's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: Sure on?
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  Speaker 12: Hey everyone, happy draft?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Thanks for holding on.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks, no problem. As Mike, as you're saying earlier,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 12: you know, you didn't want it to be like a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 12: draft the last two years where we picked well in
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 12: the first round, player that everyone thought you should and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 12: then it kind of fell off in there. It seems like, now, no,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 12: that's not the case. We got something in the second
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 12: round who has a lot of ups I who thinks
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 12: like one of the players that probably fell to us.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 13: So that's that's a good thing.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 12: And and the other thing that I look at is
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 12: the free agency. I mean, before well this offseason, there
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 12: were thirteen real needs for this team, and not to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 12: say they filled them all, but it looks like they
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: at least addressed eleven of them. And the other two
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 12: needs you can get late Saturday night full back and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 12: kick her. So right now, it's all about building.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: Did I miss the wide receiver fillings?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Say it again, well, Sean, you said the two needs
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: are kicker in full back.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah, those are the receiver well guards, so that at
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 12: least I'm not saying they then they at least dressed
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 12: it right. So yeah, I like that, Like maybe Noel
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: will be there in the third round and that's that's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: just the player i'd like to get.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: If you still there, Oh okay, I missed that part.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 12: No, I wasn't getting there, but yeah, I've not you. Yeah,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 12: you could get players that are going to help your
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 12: team that aren't huge need, and you know you can
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 12: get the kicker and the fullback and undrafted for you.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if thanks Sean,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know if fullbacks a need and or if
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: it's even on the table of a position on the team.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: I hope it is a lot of people are assuming,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: you know, if Rash McDaniels and he likes using a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: full back, but Will Johnson, I don't know. I don't
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: know about that. Oh Will Johnson just went Okay, I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: don't either.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: I would say that if they had heavy plans for
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: a fullback, there probably would already be one on the roster.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: You're not going to wait to draft a Day two
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: or three full back and expect that person to be
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: a significant part of the offense. Look at how long
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: it took James Devlin to even like break into that role.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: It's there would be a veteran. I think I think
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: they're gonna just go for it with what they got.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think the fullback's coming back.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: If they if they really are looking at true full
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: backs like Yakub Johnson, James Devon, like you, those guys
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: go undrafted, like you can get that.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Guy in the That's what Sean was saying. You're a
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: kicker in a full back and you get them as undrafted.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 8: In the seventh round. I mean, I think right now,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: you know you look, you're still looking at wide receiver.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: Is the obvious one. I still think you gotta tap
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: that class at some point right on the.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Edge, ducee, Like, at some point class you gotta.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 8: Add a defensive lineman and a loaded group like this,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 8: you want to do that, and then I think that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: you're you could add another offensive lineman guard guard, you know,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: but you have three more picks in the top one hundred,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: you know, right, So so those picks like.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: Would be sixty nine, seventy seven and one oh six.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: It's the top one hundred, pick seven, we got the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: top one hundred.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: Well, you know that somebody that is in the top
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 8: one hundred is probably going to slide a little bit,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 8: because somebody always does.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: That's good people.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: So I will say that they made a top one
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: hundred pick when they picked somebody in my top one hundred.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: It's my charge exactly. It's like when Parcels used to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: say about going for two, is that that's not what
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: the chart says. It's my chart. How do you know
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: what my chart says?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: Owen's a dublin, Hey, Owen.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Dublin.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 14: Fred?
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: How are you doing good?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 13: How are you guys?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 15: Listen? Long time, long time listener and.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 16: Make twenty five years so to listen to you guys, and.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 15: Then I'd like to ask a couple of questions. Really,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 15: I'm kind of happy with happy with the pick. Was
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 15: I'm a bit worried that Evan thinks that he's going
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 15: to need somebody to hold his hands on the outside.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: With Will Campbell you're talking about yes.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 15: Well obviously, well we only picked one player, now, Evan
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 15: the first round.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I got you.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 15: Do you know what I mean?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 8: I mean?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 15: Should should he have to have somebody to hold his
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 15: hand on the outside?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: You mean like chipping and stuff like that.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: We talked about last night's number four in the draft.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, now I hear what you're saying. Oh, and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: I you know, like you're saying, if you're going to
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: take him forth, like just get him in there and play,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: and if you have to do all this, Yeah.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 15: I think he should be able to do that. Still, Fredge,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 15: you know what I mean? Yeah, shouldn't somebody to hold
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 15: his hand?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: I think, Well I'm not forever.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I look, I don't know if he'll necessarily need it.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying that they're the way. The point I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 8: was trying to make with that is that there are
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: ways to schematically help the tackles, right, there are there
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 8: are ways to do that that aren't a total detrimental
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: to your offense, whether it's chipping you know, at the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: backs and the tight ends or whatever the case may be.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: And when I don't care if he's the fourth overall
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: pick or the fortieth overall pick, when you're a rookie
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: offensive tackle in the NFL and you're, you know, going
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: Week one and you're facing you know, an all pro
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: edge rusher potentially coming off the edge, like he's a
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 8: he's a twenty one year old kid that's never played
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: in the NFL before, Like he's gonna need to have
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: some you know, dipping the toes in the water here.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: We're not going to just put him in the in
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: the deep end and hope that he sinks like or swims.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: You know that.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: To me, that's what good coaching staffs avoid. They good
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: coaching staffs coach around that. They they help guys, And.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: I get it, but I get what I want to say.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: If we're halfway through the season and we're constantly needing.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: To te okay, go ahead.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 15: But nobody did anything like that last year to move
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 15: anybody around, And there's a compete disaster. So do we
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 15: think the coaching was so bad last year?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: I think that was part of the problem, But I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: also think.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 15: That I mean, I understand we've got way better coaching
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 15: this year, but it's going to improve that movement and
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 15: the blocking so much better now.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the coaching was bad last year. I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: think the talent wasn't up to par. I think your
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: overall thing, though, I hear what you're saying. If we're
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: halfway through the season and we're constantly having to chip
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: keep in a tight end Max protect because there's a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: deficiency there, then that's a problem. But I think it's worth.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: I think this guy's worth, you know, doing whatever we
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: can to make him succeed, because if he ends up
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: being your left tackle for ten years, it'll be worth
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: this early type of help that you have to give him.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you're gonna have. Like I was
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: watching a thing with him on Twitter today where he
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: was analyzing his own game with somebody and he was
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: actually breaking down his own tape. I mean, he knows
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: what he's doing out there. Yeah, and he knows what
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: he needs to do, even though even if right now
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: he needs to work on some things.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I hear Owen's point about he's a fourth overall
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: picture and he'd be good enough to just do it
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 8: on his own. But I think in this league, these
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 8: pass rushers are extremely talented players, and there aren't a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: lot of tackles that do it on their own for
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: four straight quarters and have no help and have no
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 8: schematic tweaks or you know, tricks of the trade when
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: they first get in the league.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Right, I was just gonna say, like, if you're gonna
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: on one hand, say that they were pully coached last year,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: and then on the other hand, you're going to say, well,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: they can't, you know, try to help them this year. Well,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: that's part of the reason why that I didn't think
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: they were well coached last year is because they too
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: often just put them out there and left them on
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: islands and they weren't good enough to do it that.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if they were pully coached
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: in terms of teaching techniques and teaching, but like when
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: it came time to solve a problem in a game,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: they seem powerless to do it. They're asking like Demontra
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: Jacobs to block Nick Bosa as an example in San Francisco.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: That's asking for trouble. That to me is why they
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: were let down by the coaching. Not because Scott Peters
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: didn't know how to teach the you know, hand placement
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: of you know, the punch and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you know, I'm I'm sure he understood, you know,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: the fundamentals of blocking. I just think schematically, they had
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: problems and they didn't adjust to them. I think Josh
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: McDaniels will do a better job of that.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: That's the point I'm making as well. I don't think
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 8: it's as much of a knock to say that, oh,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 8: if you're facing Nick Bosa in his third career, start
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 8: that maybe we'll send the tight end over there and
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: have him chip him on the way out into the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: pattern every once in a while to try to help
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 8: him out. Like that's what smart coaching staffs do.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: There was a game that Houston, oh they got uh.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Waited till the NFL announced it.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: Good job, Mike. But there was one specific game sort
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: of later in the year here at home where I
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: think Lowe had to leave the game and number seventy two,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: whose name is escaping me right now, how to go
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: in for him.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: Is that Zach Thomas.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: Zach Thomas's yeah, he was here for like and it
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: was like they were lining up at the batrack for
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: a chance to rush the passer against him and there's
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: no help Like that's I don't look at that as
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: a negative for the player. I look at that as
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: lack of adjusting from the coaching staff.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Right, it's very you know, I remember back in the day,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: there would we'd go against certain teams that had known
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: sack artists. Clay Matthews is an example for the Packers,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: and I remember Belichick would say, we're just not going
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: to let him beat us today. He's not going to
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: rate a guy. They would have it didn't let kill Right,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: they'd have a special plan for Clay Matthews or JJ
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: Watt that included whatever, chipping, leaving guys in, you know,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: giving help.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 17: In.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: It worked.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll give you another example.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: But if you just leave the guy out there, he's
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: gonna like, these guys are gonna win sometimes.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, as you guys would know
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 8: better than me, Like Matt Light had a ton of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: trouble with Jason Taylor, like had a lot I had
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: a ton of trouble with Jason Taylor. And I don't
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 8: think I'm saying anything love Matt.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: I'd like to tell you exactly what Jason Taylor did
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: to give Matt Light trouble. But any anytime those games happened,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: I never got to talk to Matt Light after the
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: game because there was no where to be found.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: Okay, Well, he gave him a ton of truck That's
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 8: what you've heard a time or two. And I would
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 8: say Dwight Freeney also gave him a lot of problems too,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: But those guys are Hall of Fame caliber edge rushers.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: And for the most part, Bill made sure that Daniel
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Graham right.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: So what did Bill do. He took his two hundred
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 8: and sixty pounds tight end. He put him right next
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: to Mat And anytime Dwight Freeney or Jason Taylor tried
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 8: to come off the edge and turn the corner, Daniel
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: Graham would would chuck him. And that's what you do
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: for tackles, to help him out. Like Matt Light is
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: a Patriot, Hall of Famer, he's a really good player.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 8: He those guys were better a lot of the time.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: I remember Bruce Smith and Bruce Armstrong would have epic
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: battles Bruce Smith is I mean, Bruce Armstrong is in
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: the Patriots Hall of Fame. But he would lose a
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: lot to Bruce Smith, and sometimes he'd win and sometimes
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: he'd get help, you know, in certain games. Yeah, but
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: Bruce Armstrong was one of the best left tackles we
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: ever had.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: Another element, though, to me, is just the uncertainty of
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: left guard. And as I said last night, in the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: perfect world, you'd love to have a veteran there that
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: that can be that calming presence next to Will Campbell.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 7: Now you're gonna be having basically an open competition at
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: left guard for all we know, with Leyden Robinson over
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: there Cole Strange City. So so how how do you
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: build up some continuity with Will Campbell and help him
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: out a little bit when there might, at least early
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: in training camp be kind of a revolving door next
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: to him on the right. Like, I think it's something
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: they have to think about just how to manage and
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: hopefully somebody's emerged in the spring that they believe in
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 7: and in a perfect situation they're going to start off.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: Let's just call it Leydon Robinson there's And that's a really.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: Good point because as we've been told by you know,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: Scarneki and others, it's all about a lot of it
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: is cohesion and communica. Yeah, and like having that the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: same guy next to you, snap after snap, I think
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: can only be a benefit. And when that guy's changing
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: in and out, it stunts growth I think, I mean,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: and not just of an individual of the whole line.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: I mean points to you know, Logan Mankins, who I mean,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: I don't know if he's ever been asked about that,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: but I would probably consider him being a key part
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: of that transition of going from Matt Lte to Nate's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: solder and helping Nate Solder along the way.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: I know that. You know there were some.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: Injuries as well that added into that. But it's never
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: going to be perfect. You're never going to have every
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: element that you want along the offensive line. But I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: do think, as I said last night, it puts a
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: little bit more of a spotlight for me on that
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 7: left guard position and how they approach it in the spring.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do wonder, you know, to that point, use
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of talented interior offensive lineman and I've
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: made that point numerous times, and it seems like they
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: kind of want their guys, you know, like Trayvon Henderson
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 8: instead of Antonio Gibson, right, you know, Will Campbell comes
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: in obviously that's a little bit of a different situation.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: But they keep on turning the roster over to bring
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 8: in Rabel guys and Rabel identified people. So at left guard,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: are we waiting on a left guard pick here tonight
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: because it kind of feels like they might not love
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: Cole Strange and City So and Leyden Robinson. That's not
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: Mike Rabel and Ryan Cowden's pick, Like, that's not their guy.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: So maybe it's going to be a guy that they
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: draft tonight or early tomorrow that's going to be that
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: the left guard instead.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: So I know you need bodies in camp, but if
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: you do pick a left guard with in a third
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: round here to clear the decks a little bit and say, Okay,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be our left guard and let's go.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean to be hard the third.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: Round, the third round, yeah, sight unseen. Well, like if
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: he if he trust no, but if he turns out
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: to be Joe Toney and he just emerges as the
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: best one in camp, Yeah, by all means, but he's
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: got to win a job.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, sure, but I'm talking to start.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: But there's going to be on the team as a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: third round pick.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: But until you get rid of everybody, because you need bodies,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: you need depth on the offensive line. But right now,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: this seems like a backlog.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: My guess is I hear if they draft a guy
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: in the third round, somebody, probably City So is going
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: to go.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 8: I would think, Yeah, they have three guards right now
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: with Robinson, Strange and So that are all here, that
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: are all competing for one spot. So your point, Fred,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: if they draft a guard here in the third round,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: that that's a top seventy five, top eighty pick in
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 8: the draft that you're probably thinking as a starter. You know,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: you're you're hoping that as a starter.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just not saying that. In year one, No,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: he's not. He's not plugging plays as a third round pick,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: but in this at that position, you might be. I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: think he might end up being but he has to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: win it.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: I just proved that he's better than the first round
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: pick that's already on the roster.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 7: Could I share just a few things share on Henderson
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 7: from the Beast that I found interesting just showing through
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: his blurbs.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: Patriots running back pit.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is two point one percent of carries and
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty four resulted in gains of ten yards or more,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: which was third best in the FBS, speaking to how
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: explosive he is, trusted blocker, consistently puts defenders on their backside.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 7: Credits faith for his maturation.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Motivated by his mother, he used his nil money to
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: help her retire last piece. Unselfish teammate voted twenty twenty
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: four captain. He told Ryan Day to quote do what
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: is best for.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 7: The team when Ohio State was considering adding quin Shawn
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 7: Judkins in the transfer portal.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, so.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: That, you know, seems like a leader that kind of
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: you know, another culture fit, and I think it's I
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 7: just think it adds another l of intrigued too, is
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 7: I think about it a little bit more. You guys
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 7: pointed out the obvious piece of it, which is Antonio
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 7: Gibson receiving role. I think last year we just saw
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 7: more of a balanced rotation and maybe that's a Josh
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: thing that they were getting away from. Maybe they'll get
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: back to it. But when they brought in Antonio Gibson.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: I thought, oh, he's going to be the passing down back,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 7: But it just seemed like they kind of rotated those
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 7: guys liberally and there was no you know, obvious code
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 7: like there was when it was all right, Sony Michelle's
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: out there, they're gonna run it. James White's out there, they're.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Going to pass it.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: But I just I wonder how Henderson's going to push
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 7: those guys, because I see him pushing Stevenson too. I
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 7: think he's in the mix for you know, he can
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 7: do it all, and certainly the explosiveness is brillian appealing
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: for this team.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: Travis and West Virginia props Fred on the use of
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: the word cherubic earlier. I'm sure you've addressed this, but
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: remind me again why the Patriots don't have the fourth
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: pick in the second and third rounds like they did
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: in the first.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all tied and it rotates, right, so you
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: get it. The tiebreakers how unfolds and the very first
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: round and then the rotation among those teams that ties
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: sort of flip flops by round.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: So we were at fourth this round, we were six six,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: and then we're gonna go up to fifth in the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: third round.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: Right, because which I think we tied with three it's
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: a three way tie or four way? Is it a
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: four way time?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 10: No? Three way?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: Eventually we'll get back to fourth.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all the four and thirteen teams that tied rotate.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I just think it will be really fun with
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 8: Henderson and Stevenson. I think it's a perfect pairing between
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 8: the two of those guys. I go immediately to David
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 8: Montgomery engineer Gibbs, like, you have a guy that's between
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 8: the tackles, bruiser, a real sledgehammer with Stevenson. And we've
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: talked a lot about the fumbling issues with Mandre and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: I think a big part of that is just how
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 8: much volume he's taken on over the last couple of
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: years of trying to be really a three down player
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: in the offense because they haven't had a true change
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 8: of pace back that can kind of take some of
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: the pressure off of him. So having a fresher mare
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 8: Stevenson having less on his plate, does that make him
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: a better player? Does that make him a less stepped
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 8: world of fumbles and having ball security issues. I think
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: that two of those guys together, it's not redundant at all.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 8: You can see how they can kind of fill in
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 8: each other's holes and be, you know, a little bit
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 8: more explosive in the passing game than Remandre is.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: The home run threat.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: That that, to me, is the huge piece of this puzzle,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 7: and that I think we get in so many debates
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: about running backs and teams trying to build themselves around
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: the run, but having that explosive element of the running
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: game that that's.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Promising to me.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: I think that Vrabel and this new regime, they understand
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: how they have to win games, and that's with with
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: Drake May's arm ultimately, but building a complimentary running game
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: that can take a little bit of pressure off him.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: I mean that these are the things we talked about
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 7: when we're throwing genty out there, of ya, you know,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 7: and obviously these are different players, but but not that
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 7: much really. I mean, I think the elements of genty
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: that we're appealing in, if it all worked out perfectly,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: are a lot of what Henderson will bring to the table.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: Did we get our first reach with the Bengals taking
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Demetrius Knight Junior.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, A lot of people sort of talked about that.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: Obviously a player they really like though.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 8: My boy, I think what we're at the point, you know,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 8: just looking at a lot of these picks, Like Terrence
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 8: Ferguson I had as like a fringe top one hundred
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 8: guide probably a little early for him to but really
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 8: what we're getting at now is just everybody's board is
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 8: so widely different in a draft like this, and like
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 8: there's not a ton separating some of these guys at
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 8: this point. So if that's your fit, if that's your
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 8: type of player, then you're just taking your guy and
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 8: you're cool with it. The other position that I think
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 8: is a little bit you know, getting passed on right
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 8: now is corner. There's a lot of corners out there still,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 8: you know, Ben Morrison's out there. Trey Amos I don't
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 8: think has been picked yet. He hasn't as a rate.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: Thomas from Florida State. I'm terrible with names. Chavon Revel,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 8: East Carolina is coming off an injury, but he a
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 8: lot of people thought he was like a top fifty guy.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: So corners are getting pushed down the board by all
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 8: these ed dressers. It seems like right now on the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 8: defensive side of the ball. I'm shocked at Amos as
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 8: in gonyet so to.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: Be honest, like I expected a lot more of that, Like,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: you know, someone's top hundred might have five or six
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: guys taken that warn't in there because of the way
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: everybody talked about this draft.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: But it hasn't yet.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: It's going to be wildly similar from twenty to seventy
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: or something whatever, Right, But so far, most of the
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: boards have been pretty good.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mike Green's still out there right.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 8: Like, yeah, Mike Green.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: Well, Nick Courton just went when Dylan writes and he
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: wants to know why we think Mike Green is falling?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, sexual assault allegation.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: H he's got some off fields.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 7: I said to Evan, I've never been to the commine
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 7: where I heard a guy at the podium and I
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 7: just was walking by and all I heard him saying
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 7: was like I've never been formally charged with anything.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that ain't going good over there.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: Have you guys seen something like this, like when do
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: we get into uncharted territory where a guy who every
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: mock draft was a first round pick is now really
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, when is he going to go?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: It's what point is it working?
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure that the draft knicks would tell you,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: but I just can't think of a name right now.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: But it happens, yeah, usually, you know, I remember, like
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: Nikobe Dean was the guy that all of a sudden,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: like the draft came around and it was like what
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: wasn't broken on him? He had like a shoulder problem,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: the knee problem, and he had a lot of injury
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: red flags and it's kind of.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: A first round some people.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: A lot of people thought him first potential too, and
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: he fell. But in terms of red flags, I mean,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know where a d. Mitchell was supposed to
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: go last year.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: Exactly, probably higher than he's.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: Definitely higher than he did. But I don't know if
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: he was supposed to be this his round pick.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but this is for almost forgetting for two rounds
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 8: the day that's a good pick by Tennessee. Uh yeah,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 8: I were Mike Green. I don't at this point like
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 8: this is Mike getting drafted, Like yeah, I don't know.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, just watching the edges fly off the board
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 8: like one after another and it's not him.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: I I just wonder if there is a chance that
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: you don't see him at all and then someone just
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: you know, takes a sixth round flyer on him or
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: something says, you know what's the worst if if he
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: has what you know, he's on a zero Tarnlan's policy
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: and one one strike and he's gone. But you lose
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: nothing because six or seventh round pick.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: Craign's central mass. You guys are peaking professionally tonight Deuce
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: got new uniforms, Fred got the topic pick the top
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: pick to laugh at a joke about paint. They're talking football,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: so Evan is happy, while Paul was only slightly negative
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: about the second pick, complaining that his first name is
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: hard to tell.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: Thank you, my god, I can't remember liking to pick.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: That much anyway. When do you see the center from
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: Georgia going? And is he worth investing a pick in
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: to take the job from Bradbury next year? Tip them picks?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 8: He says, well, sorry, who was the first center from Georgia?
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 8: Jared Wilson really talented player. I think that he's going
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: to be a starting center for sure, maybe even as
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 8: a rookie. I would say that we're getting into Jared
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 8: Wilson territory now. He's probably back into the top one
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 8: hundred kind of guy. If you're drafting Jared Wilson. Noah,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: this high, like he's starting year one, Like that's not
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 8: maybe not day one, but I would be surprised if
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: if you keep him off the field. You're drafting a
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: center at sixty nine is high, you know, if you're
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 8: gonna go that position. So I would think that that
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 8: would probably be off their board just because of that.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 8: It's a little aggressive at center.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: Right, All right, let's get back to some phone calls.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: Eight five to five, Pats five hundred is the hotline.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Christian is a LA. What's up? Christian?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 13: Hey, you guys, thanks for taking my all this afternoon
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 13: on Draft stay two here in La Los Angeles where
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 13: it's sunny. But I am definitely cloudy. I I don't understand.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 13: I don't I don't get it. I know they got
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 13: Mike Rabel, and I know exactly who he is and
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 13: exactly what he's doing. He's building the Tennessee Titans.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 16: Again.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 13: I know what he wants to do. He wants to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 13: run first, play good defense, and win seventeen to fourteen.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 13: We are no longer in a seventeen fourteen lead. We
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 13: are in a lead where you have to put points
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 13: on the board all right. And I don't mind the
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 13: kid Tevon Henderson. I don't mind him at all. But
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 13: he is not a lead.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, so what would you what should I'm up there, okay,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: I'm just and I get it. So what should what
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: should Rabel have done of that? That?
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: You what?
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: What didn't he do that you think he should have done?
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: So far?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 13: He should not have taken a running back with our
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 13: second pick when we have two. Oh, they're not superstars anymore.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 13: But Mandre has this problem. And I told you and
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 13: get it. He's okay, I get it. They're not superstars.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 13: We do not need a running back. We need a
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 13: impact player that could play.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: Put a name to it, put a name to it.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 13: I don't mind Jalen Nolan. I don't mind somebody's got.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 8: Well, he's still on the board watching well.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: He thinks they should have taken him.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's still They could take him at sixty nine,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 8: I know, but he's still on the work.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: But he may not be sixty nine, but I I
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: so fifty something.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: There we are.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 13: He's building a team for a league that does not
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 13: exist anymore.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 8: League Christian Christian Christian Christian Trayvon Henderson is not that
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 8: type of running back. Dude, he's pass He's not. He's
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 8: not Derrick Henry, right, can I We're not He's not
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 8: five three yards in the thought of dust. He averaged
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 8: seven yards of carry last year. It's an explosive running
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 8: back is a playmaker.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 13: Reason why kids and and Montgomery able to do what
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 13: they do is because they have a sievers that can
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 13: back up the linebackers that can back up the safety.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 13: I don't care about this kid. When the safety is in,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 13: the linebacker are going to crash. The box's not going
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 13: to It's not that good league. And I'm so mad.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, can I just go on recres. I
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: don't believe. I don't know. I don't believe any bit
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: of that.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: That's l A. I'm sorry, but I like it, Christian.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: I love it. Good stuff.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: Let's just wait to the end the night, Like, let's
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 8: see what they do in the third round, Like there's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: still receivers out there.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: I really like Jalen Knowle too, right, Yeah, I was thinking,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: you know, thirty eight, I would have liked him. Well,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: we'll like fifteen twenty picks after that. He's still on
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: the board, so maybe you know, I know this is
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: hard to maybe I'm wrong, yeah, but you know, maybe
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 5: you know, no one else thought he was worthy of
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: a pick yet.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: Either, But you know, I'll play the game. Let's just
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: say that that is truly you know, rage coming from
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: Christian But like I like it. They needed a left
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: tackle too, right, Oh yeah, if you don't take a
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: left tackle, then that word neglect comes back into play.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: I would just argue that I get the whole thing
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: about trying to win games, you know, strictly on defense,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: and I hate it.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: You guys know that, right, they just took offensive players.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: But I think that the the offensive player that they
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: took you can easily put into that category. Oh, they
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: just want to run the ball and stop the run. Now, Like,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's this kind of running back.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: He's two oh two, he's a fast guy.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: I think he's a home run here. I think he's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: a big play guy that they're going to look to
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: try to make some plays with.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: Right, They're going to try to get this guy the
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 8: ball in space. You don't have to go three yards
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 8: in a cloud of dust. Like you can make big
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 8: plays in the passing game. You can, you know, sort
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: of try to you know, have a big play running
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: attack too. I mean, I'm not suggesting you give this
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: guy twenty five carries a game.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 5: I don't want to do that, but can can you
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: you scheme up some stuff and get him in space?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 8: He's not even that kind of guy, right, Like, you
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 8: want to get this guy like ten to twelve touches
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 8: a game where.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: He's in a lot of tools going for ten yards plus.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 8: Right on right, And I would just say, you know,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 8: fair or not, Luther Burden and Travon Henderson will be
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 8: Lad mccacky and Jalen Polk right like there we are
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 8: going to compare those two players. They got picked back
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: to back. The Bears picked Burden, the Patriots picked Henderson,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: and whether it was fake or not, if Luthor Burden
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: goes on to have a great career and Travon Henderson doesn't,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: then then Christians outrage will be warranted like that.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: That's how it works.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, those are the coin flips, and that that was
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: a coin flip.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: And by the way, if you're allowed to be outraged
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: before it happens too, I mean I remember being sort
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: of outraged on the Taekwon Thornton pick with all the
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: receivers that were picked right around him. All the receivers
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: picked right around him weren't all good. It was one
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: that was much better than him, one that was good,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: and one that's kind of done nothing. Sky Moore. Right,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: it was George Pickens, Alec Pearce, and sky Moore. Now
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: I would take all three of them over Taekwon Thoharton.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, but sky Moore has really done
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: nothing in one of the best offenses in football. So
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: you never know.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: Patty, let's see. You gotta get my mouth, Patty's inn agawam.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: What's up? Patty?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: One sure signing note?
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 14: I want to I want to get into some of
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 14: the ways I know, like two of the guys. I
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 14: really like to hear some Jalen noell are on the board, Evan.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 14: I wanted to ask you, have you watched any film
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 14: on Yes, his name's escaped me.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 5: The kid from Utah State, Jalen Royals.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 14: Jalen Royals. Yeah, because like I've only seen highlights. He
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 14: looks like he's a little deliberate when he's running his route,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 14: but as soon as the ball gets in his hands,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 14: like he like kicks into another gear. And then I
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 14: don't know if I'm just seeing stuff I want to
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 14: see if you see the same thing, and Mike listen,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 14: calm down, buddy. By the end of the night, the
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 14: Patriots will have Jack Sawyer on the team. Oh I
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 14: got let's go.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Jalen Royals fits right into that same mold with
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 8: Kyle Williams and Jalen Nole, Like they're all kind of
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 8: speed slots. I would agree with Patty good good scouting. Patty.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 8: I think he's better with the ball in his hands
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 8: than he is as a route runner in terms of
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 8: his play speed. But he reminded me a little bit
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 8: of your guy, Jayden Reied. He reminds me a little
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: bit of him, a similar type of player. So he's
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 8: still out there if that's their their pick. And again
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 8: it's it's kind of uh Noel, Kyle Williams, Jalen, Jalen Royals,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 8: you know, used to be Isaiah Boss. I'm just going
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: to say for one out, but all four of those
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 8: guys were kind of in a cluster and it was
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 8: sort of just pick your flavor, pick your choice out
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 8: of that group.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: I like those guys. Be happy with any of those guys.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 8: Speed now, but good players well as long as they
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: have speed. Yea, they have speeds.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 7: That's what we've been saying since I think the end
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 7: of last season was that's the element you need in
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 7: that room. I think they've got a lot of guys
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 7: in that room that you know, do certain things well,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 7: but they don't have anybody who can chew up the
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: field and really.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: Ce j and Case. I just want to say how
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: pumped I am for the Henderson pick. Solid pick that
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: can help Day one. I can't remember the last Ohio
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: State player the Patriots pick, but I hope that changes,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: especially since their wide receiver you now, I hope we
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: aren't in a position to pick Juremiah Smith in a
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: couple of years when he's available, but I maybe give
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: up the whole twenty twenty seven draft to move up
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: and get him. Thanks for the great draft.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: Coverage that be Andy katziwhere.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: Katzimore was. Yeah, Terry Glenn was the best probably that
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: they picked for Ohios.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 10: Stay.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: I'm glad there's one. There's one sooner than Cats and Moore. Nate, Yeah,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: I think it might be Nate Ebner. I'll look it up.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 7: With Belton going now though it's just this is what
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: we talked about. Now, now you're trying to project tackles,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 7: and it's a tough spot to be in right now
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 7: if you felt like I need to get a left
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 7: tackle or you know even really at this point, right
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 7: tackle that can play. And now you're crossing your fingers
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 7: and hoping that one of these guys is gonna make.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 8: A k Yeah. I mean I didn't even think Anthony Belton.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 8: I didn't have him in my top one hundred picks.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 8: So like you're already starting to kind of like get
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 8: into that Kiden Wallace territory of like we're reading out
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 8: tackles because we need a guy. Now. The other side
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 8: of it, Ery did make it to thirty eight. Yeah,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 8: so you could have done Ash and Genty Ursery instead
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 8: of Will Campbell Traveon Henderson. So that's another one that
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 8: we'll look back and we'll say, you know, which would
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 8: which one would have been better? Would Urcery and Genty
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 8: would have been better or Henderson and Campbell. It's kind
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 8: of funny that they're both tackles and running back, so
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 8: we'll have an exact now, different teams.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: Interesting, but yeah, tweet that out.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: I bet that would get some traction.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I'm gonna keep that one.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think yeah. Let's go to Ray and Dedham.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: What's up? Ray?
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 9: Hey, Hey, what's up guys?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: Great show? Thank you.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 9: First of all, Henderson was a great back. Okay, so
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 9: you know together previous caller, I think he's a little
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 9: you know, all off face there. But two picks later, uh,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 9: the Saints picked Tyler Shaw as quarterback instead of Shador Sanders. So,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 9: I mean that was kind of like a holy, holy
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 9: crap moment because Tyla Shaw I was expecting him to be,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 9: you know, in that mix. So why is should Sanders
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: falling so far?
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 18: Ray.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: I mean we've heard, we've heard everything in this pre
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: draft process from people are not understanding his gifts, that
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: he's talented and it was a product of the system
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: that he just couldn't, you know, be that quarterback on
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: tape that you know, with all the refinement that he
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: had to do what he did. And then the other
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: side of the argument is that he wasn't you know,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: he didn't have that thing, that he doesn't have the
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: patience he got out of you know, off platform too quickly.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: He was you know, he didn't give the play chance
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: to develop. He was and he doesn't have that great
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: an arm. So you heard both sides of it. And
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know who to believe because I'm.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: Not physically he's not great now. I think he's probably
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: a better player than Tyler Shuck, but yeah, I mean
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: he's not.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 8: He's not a first round talent that too, Tyler Shucks.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 9: So if he falls of to the third round, Cleveland
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 9: has a couple of picks in the third round. They
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 9: can wait till like ninety four together because nobody else
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 9: needs a quarterback at this point.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I could. Yeah, I stun Thanks for everything that
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 8: I hear heard about your door going up to this
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 8: is just how awful his interview process was.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: That didn't hurt, that didn't help.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that that's a big party. Why like
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 8: what was it just or just yeah, one of the
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 8: entitled like one of the worst interviews of this, like
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: these executives' careers, you know in the NFL, you know.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: And I'm not saying that that's true, like this is
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 8: all anonymous sourcing and all that kind of stuff with
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 8: all these reports, but that's what's being said about.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: It, even in like third round or fourth round. You
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: take this guy and you have to realize there's going
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: to be a constant drumbeat by maybe half your fan
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: base and certainly his dad that he should be playing
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've I was thinking about that for some
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: of these teams that aren't necessarily looking to plug him
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: in as the starter right away. What's he going to
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: be like?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: Is like he's the Giants.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: My chance was my chance?
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 5: You suddenly Joe Milton's a problem. He's a Dallas cowboy.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: This is this is this is time it all comes around.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to blame you because you were on
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: my side last year when we had this conversation.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: This is where we were.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 8: We were called.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: Baby, I was called a baby. I was I was
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: told to take my ball and go home if I recalled,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: and once again I was right. So tired of being right.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of it too. Because the Patriots have been
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: four and twelve.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 8: You wanted to get rid of Tom Brady, all right.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: You invited thists because of you.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: You are the reason you invited you. This is this
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: is on you.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: This is why they sent me over here.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: Really quickly, Trey Harris went to the Chargers. So he
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 8: was sort of the other ex receiver that we were
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 8: talking about earlier. Uh so you know there are some
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: receivers that are starting to go slowly here off the board.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 8: Uh if you're I was a Trey Harris guy too.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 8: I liked him.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: Another local product went too.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 8: It was kind of like Ted McMillan, Uh, Jayden Higgins,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 8: Trey Harris, like those were kind of the three tiers
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 8: of that type of player. So, uh, now we're getting
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 8: into the Dante Thorntons and the Isaac Teslaws and like
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 8: those types of guys if you want that true outside
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 8: the numbers.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: Ethan in La says Henderson hasn't fumbled since his freshman year,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: perfect third down back. Yeah.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's got a lot of like Bill and that,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 7: Like just reliable team guy.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: It's just it seems like he's checks a lot of
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: those off the field.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: But I just need him to be a playmaker. That's
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: all I'm working for. I want someone that can put
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: some pressure on a defense. So, Mike, they're not easy
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: to you. Yeah, I was saying. Another local guy, Ozzie Trapilo,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: went to the I thought for him though, I thought
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: he had Patriots written, well, yeah, this is he's going
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: to go tonight.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: He was.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: I would have been shocked if he didn't go tonight.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, Bears their interesting team this saf season. I
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 7: mean I almost forgot that they had gotten Tooney. I mean,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: they're they're going to try to make some noise there
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 7: and that and that Tony Domon you know, and uh
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 7: that other Jonah Jackson. I mean it kind of likes
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 7: just the philosophy of let's solidify our aligne with with veterans,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 7: and let's just keep adding youth and explosiveness to our weaponry.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: And big play guys, you know, with Lovelins to go
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: with Caleb Williams. I mean, let's face it, you could
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: talk about all this stuff. If Caleb Williams doesn't have
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: some development in year two, just like we're talking about
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: here with Drake May, it's going to be all or not.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: You can do all the right things, and if your
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: quarterback doesn't develop, you're going to be limited.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 8: Uh'd be interesting to see where he plays Trpillo because
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 8: he played right tackle at Boston College. Most people think
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 8: that he's best at right tackle. They have Darnell Wright,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 8: who they dis drafted in the first round a couple
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 8: of years ago was their right tackle and they had
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 8: more of a whole Chicago at left tackle. So are
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 8: they thinking of trying to flip Trpillo to left tackle?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 8: You know, he's probably the best tackle on the board
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 8: to if you're going to do it, I understand thinking
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 8: that way instead of overdrafting a tackle. Now it's really
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 8: a Day three guy that you're drafting here just because
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 8: he plays on the left side.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 7: I'm blanking on his name. The mercurial receiver from the
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 7: Bears who was on Carolina.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 8: Dj Moore.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: I think they tried to move him maybe, Like I
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's just I don't know.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: I wonder if he's on board now with all these
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: moves eyeballs for Patriots.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like, I mean he was. He was
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: kind of pouty last year, right, nothing crazy, Yeah, No,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you wonder how much of that pouting was
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: because of Caleb Williams, Right, And if that was, you know,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: he didn't like playing with Caleb Williams, then maybe you
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: try to move him.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 8: Tate Ratledge to the Lions. Nice, really good player, really
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 8: nice pick for the Lions. I didn't really love Tate
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 8: Ratledge for the Patriots because he's been a solely a
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 8: right guard at Georgia and has never played any left guard.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: I think there was a lot of people that did
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 8: really like him as a Patriot fit. But I think
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 8: it's like something like forty careers starts all at right
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 8: guard at Georgia, so he would have had to. We
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 8: were all anti flipping the tackles, and so it kind
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 8: of has to stand the reason that we're anti flipping
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 8: the guards also right So a good player though, that's
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 8: a good pick.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: By the line, Oh boy, this this one this email
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: or Paul writes in curious if the listeners feel the
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: same way I do. Fred, Paul and Mike are conversational.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: There is a nice flow of ideas. It's like hanging
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: out at a bar with your friends. Evan, on the
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: other hand, is lecturing people when he talks in an
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: angry manner. His opinion is the only opinion. Did Eric
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: return with football knowledge? If someone could remove the stick
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: from Evans took us, he may relax and be a
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: good listen. Long live Barth. So I wonder if this
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: is Bartha's burner. This could be Bartha's berner.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: I really like that email.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I apologize for taking it too seriously. I'll take
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 8: it less seriously, and there we go. I'll take it
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 8: less seriously for the email. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 8: put my notes away and I'll just you know, Mike.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: You and I sit down and watch football with Fred.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: It's sort of just a free conversation because I don't.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: Know what the hell I'm talking about.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 8: I am one hundred percent not conversational when it comes
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 8: to this. I fully admit that I let you guys
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 8: handle the conversational and you know you call on me
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 8: when it's my turn.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: All right, that's why those ball are you gonna like
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: go in the corner?
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 8: Apparently I just won't cover the draft when when we
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 8: come on the clock at sixty nine, I'll come back.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: And I used to do that once in a while.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: All Right, I just won't talk.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: Fine, Yeah, I won't share my gift half.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing it with down.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Eric returned with football knowledge.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, at least he said I had football knowledge.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: Like I guess there's that.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: Nope, that's the funniest part right there. Like the fact
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: that he got made fun of is of no consequence.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: The guy, the guy.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: The guy said, I had football college.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I absolutely do not care if I am
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 8: conversational or not during the draft. No, this is gott
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 8: this is too important.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: We got to get it out.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: Clinton, Omaha, Clinton Henderson about Henderson, really impressed by his
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: willingness to block, as well as the eleven plus yards
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: per catch. Josh should be able to take advantage of that.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: Trey Harris seems like a shaky pick, very limited routree
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: at Ole Miss. His best take may have been at
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech. Yeah, I prefer.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 7: William mental pick. Though I think, you know, there's a
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 7: lot appealing about Trey Harris. I think off the bus
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 7: he looks just like, well, there's your guy. It's not
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 7: built like but like a lot of.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: Stuff they said about DK Metcalf and AJ Brown. Oh,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know. How about the rout tree. You know,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: because if you remember, if you thought that DK Metcalf
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: was better than Kenei ol' harry, you're an idiot.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't know if he's as explosive as those
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 8: two guys, but there's no problem of him being a
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 8: limited routree in Los Angeles. His job is going to
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: be the run routes on the outside and let lad
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 8: McConkie do Lad McConkie things. So like, it's not like
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 8: they're asking him to go out there and run like
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 8: these option routes in this diverse rout tree. He's gonna
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 8: run go routes. He's gonna run nine stops, he's gonna
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 8: run in cuts, and they're gonna feed lad maconkie the ball.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 8: They needed an outside receiver, they needed somebody that complimented
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 8: lad and and Cray Harris definitely does that.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: Quentin Quentin Johnson.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: You don't have to rely on him as much. He's
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: too he's not reliable. Yeah, I mean he can make
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: some plays, but he drops too many balls and he's
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: not consistent. So now you have someone else take that out.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: You have a little insurance. You know, some Christian hate.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: Can we give Christian an adderall Ethan? What a freaking boom, Christian? Please?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: Christians made the heel turn, he's embracing the heel turn.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: He's in his Uh, that's Austin's Christian.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: Please to filling up those until you get that big
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: acting break and stay away from anything football, or at
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 4: least watch the videos or something. Can we petition a
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: sponsor lunches to never take another call from him again.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: But if I don't take calls him, then you have
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 4: nothing to be mad about. And if you have nothing
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: to be mad about, it's not fun. So people hoping
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: for Osio Trapillo, he got taken, so we can't. We
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: can't get him. Sorry, sorry, Darius writes, in any chance
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: we skip on drafting a wide receiver because Rabel and
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: company have faith in Poke and Baker. Maybe he thinks
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: they can play, but wasn't developed and coach correctly. By
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: the way, I still have faith in Baker. He was
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: a dog in college and can learn from Digs hopefully.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get what he's trying to say.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 7: And that's why I would just say, like, I want
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 7: to add a receiver, but somebody that brings something different
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 7: of the party. I don't need to just add a
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 7: receiver to say we added a receiver. And that's why
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 7: I was kind of out on you know, guys like
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: Jack Bash or I mean, Ristreppo is kind of even
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 7: ridiculous out of the conversation now, but you know, early
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 7: on there were conversations about him, all these inside receivers
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 7: who aren't going to run the fastest, but they're reliable, Like,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 7: we don't need to do.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: It just to do it.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: If there's a guy with some speed that you feel
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 7: like brings a new element to the offense, I'm all
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: for it. But I don't need to see another guy
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 7: where he's probably gonna be the inside guy. He might
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 7: struggle to separate. I don't want to hear those things
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 7: about they don't need.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: It, they have If that's the case, like you said,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: just let them fight it out with the guys that
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: they have and hope somebody emerge.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: And I would say, like, why can't you do both?
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: Why can't Mike ra Abel look at it and say
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: we're gonna do a better job of developing Polk and Baker,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: but we need to get better.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and push them too.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, i'd say, because I think if Baker and
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: Polk develop, you still need playmakers. Like the best that
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: Polk is gonna be is sort of a possession receiver,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: complimentary piece. They need playmakers. So why can't you look
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: for both? Why can't you hope that those guys are
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: better than they looked last year and want to get better? Yep,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 5: And yeah, Jags is only going to be around so long.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 7: And I think that goes back to the heart of
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: the running back conversation, where it's like Henderson is not plotting,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 7: you know big all right, We're gonna just ground him
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 7: into the ground.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 5: The previous email a eleven yards a catch.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: That like for a running back's that's good, that's off.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 5: That's better than slut receiversh Aaron Wright.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: So now that you're on video, I no longer need
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: to watch the draft somewhere. I do have some suggestions
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: to improve the draft show and eliminate some of the
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: whining about tippicks. One next up ticker to show who's
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: picking next two Evan's best available picks ticker sidebar. So
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: basically he wants to turn us into ESPN.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 8: Sure, I do like the best available because it's my
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 8: best three.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 4: Less Deuce and Evan, more Paul and Fred because this
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: is just because I am too old for less football,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: more nonsense, and five. Tell me the pick sooner so
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 4: I can make money betting off my friends.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 8: So Jack Besh just went to the Raiders, and I'm
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 8: glad you brought Jack Besh up because I really liked
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 8: the player. But like He's he's a power slot, right
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 8: he A, He's a power slot, That's what he is.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 8: And it just felt very redundant to me. It's another
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 8: guy that had, you know, issues or concerns with top
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 8: end speed and that sort of thing, and I just
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 8: I didn't really love the fit because of that. You know,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 8: if you're gonna add another receiver, I want to add
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 8: a guy that's got big playability.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 7: It's funny, like your Raiders unfiltered, what are they saying,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 7: We got Jacobe Myers and I got another Like it's
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 7: kind of what I was talking about. It's, you know,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 7: not completely redundant love. Jacoby Myers a reliable guy, but but.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 5: He's how much longer Seacon? I mean, there's a that
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: position gets a lot of wear and tear. So I
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 5: don't think that most of them lasts very long. They're
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 5: probably looking to move on.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, here comes the should they call him? Jacoby Myers
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 8: calls uh, Mike Green is going to Baltimore. So the
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 8: Ravens have the.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: Zoo Boy and to work out for the rage.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 5: There's only three, four, five teams that can say, Okay,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: I took him and then he got in trouble and
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 5: I had to cut him. Yeah, what are you gonna
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: get rid of? You know that that whole regime with
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 5: Harbaugh and and what's his name? Into cost But I
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 5: just say, why am I blanking Costa?
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 5: Costa?
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 5: Those guys are entrenched. They do it as well as anybody.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 5: They're not. They're not going to lose their job over
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 5: one bad pick, right, just and it doesn't work out.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 7: Another great moment here with best They'll getting drafted, fantastic.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 7: You can see the joy in that family's face after
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 7: what they've been through over the last five months. It's just,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 7: you know, it's another moment in the draft that's just
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 7: you know, heartwarming and nice to see and the reason
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 7: why you just you love the sport.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: This is what it brings out of people.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 8: NFL route runner like really good route runner physically.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: Alan Robinson to use young No, I could use some
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 5: young Allen Robinson coming out of Penn State.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 7: Was I was just laughing at physical yeat because physically
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 7: and a couple of physical yacts in college after some
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 7: long nights of party and you don't want to be
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 7: the physical.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: After some struggles on PP two Rolling Rocks you p
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 5: P two.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: Uh, Tim's in Seattle. What's up, Tim, Seattle?
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 19: Big guys, I'm still seeing Kyle Kyle Williams from Washington State. Yeah,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 19: I caught some of that guy out here. Obviously a
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 19: local guy to me at least, I actually kind of
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 19: see a bit of Steph Diggs in him, a little worried,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 19: just gonna get taken here. What do you guys think
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 19: about trading up? I guess you know, I could see
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 19: actually Vegas maybe taking him. But what do you think
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 19: about getting ahead of some of these.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 4: Other teams here and to get Kyle Williams.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'm a big fan of Kyle Williams' game.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 5: Vegas did not take him, they took back.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 8: Well, they have another pick, that's what he's saying they
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 8: do in the third round.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right before us.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 8: Right, but they're not going to take another receiver to
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 8: Paul's point, but I mean that that would be the
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 8: guy right my point that I would.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 5: Take things not loading properly because I have the Raiders done.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 4: But the Raiders just picked back, but they have another
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: pick before us.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it ends my round, ends mind.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 8: Jalen Nole also still available. Yeah, so between those two guys,
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 8: if they picked either one of those guys, I'd be
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 8: really happy with that.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: You guys want to hear from Trevion Henderson, Sure, yeah,
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: what's let's let's hear it.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 20: Matt Hey Trivia. Welcome to New England. My name is Andrea,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 20: worked for the Boston Herald. First of all, how you feeling, man.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling. I'm feeling amazing, man, I'm feeling I'm excited. Good.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 20: Can you take us through from when your college season ends,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 20: obviously with the championship, all the way through tonight. The
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 20: times you've spoken with the Patriots met with them, Where
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 20: were you what did you talk about?
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I think only did one zoom meeting with the
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 21: running backs coach, and so other than that, you know, honestly,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 21: you know, I had I.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: Had no clue that you know, New England was going
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: to be the spot. Uh, it was definitely. It was
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: definitely a surprise for me.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 5: Tan you're gonna your head coach is Mike Rabel, who's
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 5: in Ohio state along then must excite you.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 4: A little bit.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 21: Oh yeah, most definitely. You know, I know, I think
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 21: I'll watched the video. You know, he's trying to rebuild
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 21: the culture there and so man, I'm excited, you know,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 21: I'm excited to be a part you know what what
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 21: he's what he's looking to accomplish.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: Travion.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 3: For those who don't know you, how would you describe
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: your game?
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 21: I say, I'm fast, I'm explosive. You know, I'm good
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 21: and one on one matchups, you know, my receiving, the ability,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 21: my blocking, you know, I'm pretty I pretty much.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: Can do it all.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 18: Him. I'm Sophia, but a I'm just curious.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 8: What are you familiar with trait May at all? His
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 8: style of play, and just what's your level of excitement
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 8: to kind of get in here and with.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 13: Him as your cornerback.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm familiar with him. Great, great player. You know,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 21: I'm excited, you know, to play alongside of him, and yeah,
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 21: you know, I just I can't I can't wait to
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 21: get started, you know, to get there and get started
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 21: to get to work with him.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 22: Trevian, how did your experience the last four years at
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 22: Ohio State prepare you for this opportunity?
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 9: You've had some ups and downs, but how did that
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 9: experience prepare you to play in the NFL.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 21: Yeah, you know, man, I'm thankful. You know, I heard
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 21: a lot you know from the players in the past.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 21: You know who played in the past, you know who
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 21: played their NFL careers. How they said Ohio State did
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 21: a good job of preparing him for what's next. And
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 21: so you know, all the meeting is pretty much this
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 21: whole draft process. I can say, you know, Ohio State
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 21: prepared me for that, and you know, I'm believing, you know,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 21: what they put us through will prepare me. You know,
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 21: have prepared me for you know, when I take those steps,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 21: you know, and get there. You know, the New England
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 21: and so.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 20: Trivian, how familiar are you with Josh McDaniels and how
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 20: he used it running backs within his offense.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm not too familiar with it, but I'm looking.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 21: I'm excited, you know, to learn, you know, to get
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 21: coach Bob and so yeah, you know, I'm excited. You know,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 21: I'm just excited to.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: Learn and grow, Trivia.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 23: One of the big things we've seen go through notes
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 23: is ball security and how well do you took care
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 23: of the ball to Ohio State? How important is that
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 23: for you as a player?
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: Very important?
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 21: You know, one of the something we did almost every
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 21: week at Ohio State.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: And I know we put the ball on the ground.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 21: You know, it's the high possibility you're coming out and
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 21: you're probably not playing a game, and so that encouraged
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 21: me a lot, you know, to hold on to the
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 21: ball because it can cause the team, especially in those
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 21: big matchup games, and so you know, that's something that
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 21: I'm looking forward to carrying on to the next level
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 21: as well, just holding.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: On to the ball.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 23: I also want to know about how good is your
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 23: trophy security, because you showed that at the White House
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 23: with the fumbled JD Vans.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: Is that something you can promise to Patriots fans?
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I can't.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 21: I can't make a promise, but uh yeah, I'll just say,
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 21: you know, I'm gonna.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: Give it everything that I got to hold onto that ball.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 20: Just going back for a second, so you said you
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 20: have the zoom call with coach dous Nothing, it's combined,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 20: no proda if you if you ever talked with coach Rabel.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 21: I don't recall having a meeting with them.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, there was honestly a surprise. It is a
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: surprise for sure, Trevian.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 23: How much do you know about the running backs on
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 23: the Patriot's roster Remindra Stevenson and Antonio Gibson, And what
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 23: are your thoughts about joining that room.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 21: Yeah, you know, I'm excited to really learn from those guys. Man,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 21: I'm excited to be part of that room. And yeah,
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 21: looking to build and grow with those guys. You know,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 21: I'm looking forward to that.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 24: Trevian, generally running backs some bit of a transition or
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 24: a struggle to pick up pass protection schemes, blitzes.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 4: You seem to be really good at it.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 16: How did you get to be just good at it
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 16: at this stage your career?
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 21: Yeah, getting developed at Ohio State, you know, the coaches
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 21: there and just competing against some of the best players
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 21: every day in practice, you know, help helped me out
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  Speaker 21: a lot. And so that's something I continue to look,
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 21: you know, to work at and bring on to the leaders.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 21: I know that's very important, you know, as a running back,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 21: and so that's something that I got to definitely continue
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 21: to work at and making sure I'm staying on top
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 21: of trivia and with.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 22: The Zoom meeting.
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  Speaker 23: When was that and what else do you remember about that?
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 21: I don't remember when it was. It was more so
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 21: I believe it's like early on you know, after the
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 21: after the combine, I believe, and so you know, it's
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 21: more so just getting to know your background, seeing how
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 21: well do you know ball, how fast can you pick
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 21: up the system?
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  Speaker 2: And I believe I did a pretty good job.
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  Speaker 21: You know, I don't if I if I did a
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 21: bad job, I don't know if they would have picked me. So, yeah,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 21: I think I did a good job.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 22: This through just the whole moment.
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  Speaker 4: Who was with you and you got the call and
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 4: just what your reaction was like when you saw the
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  Speaker 4: number come.
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  Speaker 18: Across your screen.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah, I was with my mom and dad, my grandma,
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 21: both of my grandmothers, and my brother on the couch, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I got that call, it was It's crazy.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 21: I didn't I didn't even know who had who had
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 21: to pick at the time as well, because I forgot
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 21: what was on the TV at the time.
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  Speaker 2: And so when I was.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 21: Getting a call, you know, I was I was shocked.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 21: I was definitely shocked. And yeah, the excided. You know,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 21: I prayed on this. You know, there's been a lot
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 21: of sacrifices, you know, a lot of hard work, and
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 21: so you know, I'm just thankful that God has put
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 21: me in this position and that he's leading me to
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 21: New England. You know, I know it's for a great reason.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 17: I did touch Rabel have a message for you when
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 17: when you were picked.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I'm not gonna lie to y'all.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 21: The moment went by so fast. I barely I barely
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 21: remember too much. I was so I was so excited.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 21: It was going by so fast. Yeah, there was just
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 21: some you most as I barely remember. We're going to
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 21: finish up with two final questions from online here, So
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 21: we're going to start with Taylor Kyles Travion.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. Man, Welcome to New Witlntngrats
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  Speaker 2: on getting drafted.
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  Speaker 21: I read in the scouting report that said that you're
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 21: motivated by your mother, So I'm curious. Can you tell
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 21: us a little bit about that relationship and why she
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 21: inspires you so much? Yeah, she she inspires me a lot,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 21: and definitely definitely when I was younger, you know, seeing
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 21: all the sacrifices, everything that she had to sacrifice to
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 21: help her out from me and my other two brothers.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: You know, she she worked really hard.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 21: And you know when Tom got tough, you know, she
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 21: she didn't give up, you know, and so that was
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 21: more so my encouragement. You know, when I first got
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 21: to Ohio State, when Tom got tough, you know, just
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 21: seeing everything that she went through and her not giving
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 21: up and encouraged me.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: You know, when Tom got tough to I give up.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, I'm thankful. Thank you again.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 18: Sorry.
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  Speaker 25: The final question from Chris Ryan.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 26: Hey, congrats, that's welcome to UH to New England. Just
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 26: what excites you the most about this particular opportunity and
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 26: what kind of your initial thoughts on what this team
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 26: is and what you can bring.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 21: Yeah, what excites me the most, you know, is just
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 21: being part of the culture. You know, I'm just excited
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 21: to learn about the culture, to learn about what they're
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 21: trying to do there, and I believe, you know, they're
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 21: trying to you know, they're trying to compete for Super Bowl,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 21: and so you know, I'm just excited to come there,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 21: and I know God is leading me there for a reason,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 21: and so you know, I'm just walking by faith, and
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 21: you know, I don't I don't understand it all now,
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 21: but you know eventually I will, you know, eventually, I will.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 21: So yeah, I'm just I'm honestly just excited, you know, and.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 26: How do you feel that you're run with Ohio State
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 26: kind of prepared you for a playoff type football, the
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 26: type of you know environment this team is looking to
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 26: you have to get to where you guys faced a
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 26: lot of adversity this year, particularly after the Michigan game.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 26: But what did you learn about, you know, what it
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 26: takes to win in those types of situations.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the biggest thing is just.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 21: You know, at Ohio State we talked about the brotherhood,
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 21: and last year the brotherhood was really special. You know,
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 21: when times got tough, you know, we stayed together. And
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 21: I believe a big part of that is because of
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 21: our faith in Jesus and so, you know, I'm just.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: That's that's the most important thing.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 21: It's just you know, we have to be willing to
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 21: love each other, to fight for each other, to be
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 21: all you know, brought in and have the same goal
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 21: in mind. And yeah, you know, I'm just decided how
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 21: I can be part of that, you know, how I
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 21: can learn, however I can grow, you know, That's what
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 21: I'm That's what I'm willing to do. You know, they're
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 21: willing to help the team however. You know, however, I
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 21: can so thank you, yep, thank you, thank.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 25: You very much for your time and congratulations.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much, appreciate John.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's Trevon Henderson, newest running back for
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. And I have a question, so
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 4: does the obviously he's probably doing this from his home.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 4: I would imagine does the league send every player of
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 4: thirty two caps so that whoever picks them they can
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 4: just throw on a cap.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 8: I do believe they do. Yeah, I think that the question.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 8: They send a box of thirty two of them, but
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 8: not to I don't think it's to every prospect. It's
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 8: probably just like the consensus top one hundred guys or
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 8: something like that. I don't think the guy's picking in
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 8: the seventh round or getting hats.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 7: I had a similar question for about the Jerseys and
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 7: how the guys were able to get up there and
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 7: they already and they had a little behind the scenes
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 7: thing on the NFL about they have like the jersey
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 7: printer in the back right there and as soon as
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 7: the pick is like coming in, they tell the guy
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 7: and he's putting it together right away.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe that's why they need to delay before
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 4: they announced it so they can get the jersey right right.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 4: Maybe we've collected we've overthought it. We think it's always
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 4: about rating. No, it's about getting that damn jersey right.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: The jersey is ready all right.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 4: We already knew that, So that was What do you
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 4: think after listening to him?
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's about what I expect.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 7: It sounded like, you know, well spoken guy and a
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 7: guy who really seems to understand himself his role in
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 7: the offense and what he does well. And I'm excited
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 7: to at him, you know, into the mix. I think
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 7: it's always hard with like the first thing I always
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 7: think about is getting first glimpses of these guys. And
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 7: it's so hard to get excited about running backs in
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 7: the spring and summer when you really can't tell till
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 7: you get into the game.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: So there's that part of it.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 7: We'll see some intrigue probably maybe during training camp when
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 7: the Pats come on a little bit, but you don't
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 7: really get a sense of what these guys are going
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 7: to contribute till you get to the game. So they'll
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 7: be an element of unknown with Henderson, how big his
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 7: role is going to be, how they're going to divide
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 7: up the carries once we get to the regular season.
• 2:14:38
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  Speaker 5: Would they take.
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  Speaker 8: A lot of those defensive linemen Ano they're penetrating, you know,
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  Speaker 8: similar players. But you know, sh we do a little
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  Speaker 8: best player available right now and with pop Patriots get
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  Speaker 8: best player from Toledo defensive tackle. Jalen Knowle appreci out there.
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  Speaker 8: is a solid edge rusher Landon Jackson Ano. There could
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  Speaker 8: torn acl so that's why he's still available. First for
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Alex. He likes to argue a lot. Yeah,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 5: but like I have to keep that mind because I
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 5: commonly do some things on Sundays with Barthy and I'll
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 5: look to take advantage of that.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 4: Not always he's take guy. He likes to come up
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 4: with a take and then defend it.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 8: You know, that's the sports that way. Yeah, yeah, I
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 8: mean he's a sports radio guy. That's what he does.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 4: Do you watch his Sunday morning I listened to a
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 4: Sunday morning show.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 8: I don't usually listen on Sunday, but I do listen
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 8: to him whenever he's on during during the day, like
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 8: on the.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 4: I listen because I'm usually like driving around doing errands
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 4: Sunday mornings.
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 5: I do a lot of Saturday mornings, but I don't
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 5: hear a lot of Sunday mornings.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 4: And he's got a two hour show on Sunday.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 5: No, I know, I got to do this Sunday for
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 5: four hours with Big Joe Murray. Oh we'll be talking
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 5: beast bro.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 4: Oh so you're on that show.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 5: I'm on ten to two on Sunday. But yeah, absolutely, no,
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 5: you kidding me?
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of probably, Yeah, yeah, I'll.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 5: Be tapping into Mike dude, you got you got forty
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 5: five minutes.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 4: I was actually listening home last Sunday because I was
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 4: outside painting, and so I had him on and he
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 4: was going on a rant about re enactments. Oh no, no,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 4: you know what that was Big Jim Murray that was
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 4: doing that. He went on a rant about reinact like
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 4: the you know the Lexington I was just there, like
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 4: why are they doing this? You know the guy I
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 4: covered it. I did Winslow that he gets shot and
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 4: then he gets back up and like somebody said, what
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 4: do you expect them to like really kill him. He's like,
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 4: if you gotta do it, do it.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 7: I'm going to defend reenactments little bit because I've never
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 7: really been to a real reenactment, but we went Kellen
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 7: and I. We were there four in the morning on Saturday,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 7: uh full reenactment in Lexington for the two hundred and
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 7: fiftieth anniversary. There was a little bit of pomp and circumstances,
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 7: but like I was telling Paul, it was so cool
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 7: to see the actual you know, the American military, I
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 7: guess at that point just calling us like lining up
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 7: and there's like twenty of them. And then to get
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 7: the visual sense of the British Army marching in all
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 7: in the red coats, they're all uniform, they're all in file,
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 7: and it just you can read it one hundred times
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 7: in a history book, but until you're like standing in
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 7: the actual place that had happened two hundred and fift
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 7: years ago to the minute, and you see exactly and
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 7: he's right though, there's like I noticed there was one
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 7: guy right before the British charge they put their bayonets
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 7: on and that's when the Americans were like, all right,
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 7: let's scatter, and then a shot goes off.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: You don't know which side. That's the history, and then
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: they opened fire. But right as that.
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 7: Happens, one of the British reactors like runs.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: Up and like fake staffs one of the guys.
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 4: On the ground.
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is really it's kind
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: of funny.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 7: And then for the next ten minutes, the guy's got
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 7: to land on the ground, right, you know, in this
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 7: awkward position that he happened to choose.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: So I get what he's saying.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 7: There is some comedy there, but I still think it
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 7: was pretty cool to kind of see what it actually
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 7: looked like in the place that it actually.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 4: It's so excited about it, like history, you were there
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 4: for the morning.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: We were there for them.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean they had to do the real time,
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 7: which it started like five point fifteen.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, first it's like and this is mine
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: on the women and children then went to this place
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: and then you see like a bunch of women that
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 1: old kind of run across.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 7: The field with some stuff, and you know, like it's like,
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 7: just get to the shooting part to come on, I want.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 8: To see it.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 5: So but it was cool. It was cool.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: We got some shots, you know. I mean, because of
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 1: course we're the Patriots. They're like, what who are you with?
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 7: And I'm like with the New England Patriots, the football
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 7: the football Patriots.
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 5: So we are officially through round two.
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so the Patriots.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 5: Are Andrew h Safety from Texas. I hate the Eagles, wife,
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 5: I'm taking good players.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just like, all right, that's up one time.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 4: Wait for the Patriots to get the clock here. Let's
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 4: go to our phones. Dave is in the Philippines. What's up, Dave? Oh?
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 28: Not much? Good morning guys for you.
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 28: I like the first two pick so far, and I
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 28: love the interview with Will Campbell. It seems like he's
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 28: a really good guy. I really called because I want
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 28: to vent if that's okay with you guys. I went
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 28: to YouTube after y'all's draft show yesterday and I started
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 28: watching clips of reactions to the draft. The first one
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 28: I watched was EEI and there were four guys there
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 28: and they seemed like they really hated the pit. Full disclosure,
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 28: I didn't watch the whole clip because I got really
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 28: foed about what they were saying. Then another clip I
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 28: watched had Sims on it, and this is the one
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 28: that really got me because the first words out of
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 28: Sim's mouth is he's a guard. He's a guard. He's
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 28: never I won't say he's never. He's played left tackle
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 28: the whole time he was in college. They picked him,
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 28: and I trust the coaching app they picked him to
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 28: be the left tackle. And the first word out of
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 28: Sim's mouth is.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 9: He's a guard.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 4: So well, yeah, I would take that and I would
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 4: play it for him, and I would say this, you know,
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 4: prove this guy wrong.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 28: I look at it is the scouts and the coaching
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 28: staff have spent a lot more time, in my opinion,
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 28: a lot more time watching this guy and and evaluating
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 28: this guy, and they do it as a left tackle,
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 28: and all of a sudden, Sims just says he's a guard.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 28: That really just it frosted me.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 4: That's why I wanted. That's exactly the reaction he was
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 4: looking for, Dave. He that's why Sims has done that before.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 4: He likes to, you know, come out with those takes.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 4: But that's he's looking for that visceral reaction that you.
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 5: Don't think that he thinks that he's going to be
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 5: a guard.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 4: I think I think I think if he's being honest,
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 4: he's like he could play tackle. But I think he
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 4: wants to have a definitive take to get a reaction.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 4: I think it like, how can you be so definitive
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 4: Paul about either way?
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know because I'm not a football guy.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 4: Right he is, I know, but but.
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 5: Like, I don't think that he would just like sacrifice
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 5: his reputation by saying he's a guard if he doesn't
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 5: think he's going to be a guy.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 8: And this was the same guy that had Drake Man
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 8: is the sixth best quarterback in the class last year.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 5: Anybody can be right around to sacrifice. I don't how
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 5: do you know what he's not going to be?
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 8: But right I know what he's talking about.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 4: He could be.
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 8: How do you think he's going to be the sixth
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 8: best quarterback in the class?
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 4: Drake possibility?
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 5: How do you know the possibility?
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 4: There is no But but.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 5: You don't think there's a chance that the other five
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 5: guys turn out to be better than Drake?
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 8: May hell, no, possibly the other five guys. He said
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 8: he was six, but I think he had another guy
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 8: in there.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 4: I think that's the point.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 5: There's a possibility there was six guys taking in the
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 5: first round last year?
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: Correct, right?
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 5: He Chris Sims, not Paul Parola. Before this one blows
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 5: up on me. Yea, Chris Simms thinks he's the sixth right?
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 5: Is that impossible?
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 4: It's not impossible, but it is impossible.
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 5: Is it unlikely?
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 8: And I just can't take someone's opinion seriously that evaluated
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 8: tape and said that that's all. And I didn't have
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 8: Drake as the best quarterback in the past. I'm not
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 8: saying that.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 5: An opinion, okay, But but I can't take anybody seriously.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 5: I don't have to agree with him. Melt Kuiper said
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 5: that Shauel Sanders was the best quarterback in this draft.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 5: I don't completely dismiss melt Kuiper because I disagree with
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 5: his opinion.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 4: You don't dismiss it. But you can get mad about it.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 5: You could do whatever you want about it. Yeah, Like
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 5: I'm not here to tell you how to.
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 4: My point is that's what these guys.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 5: But I just don't think Chris Simms just made up
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 5: that he thinks this guy's a guard because he wants
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 5: to get attention. I don't think I think that he
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 5: thinks he's going to be a guard.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 4: But I think if he's a reasonable he could be wrong.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 4: But I think if he's a reasonable person, he can
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 4: say I think he's a guard, but but it's not.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense for him to say, but
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 4: he could play tackle. You just finish it there. You
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 4: don't leave the room for doubt. This is my opinion,
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 4: and that's it. But I think being a reasonable person,
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 4: he would have to admit, yeah, he could end up
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 4: playing tackle.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're just you're not supposed to say.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 4: It's like, I'm a reasonable person and I say, I
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 4: think he's a tackle, but I don't know for sure,
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 4: Like maybe you know he could play guard, but I'm.
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I get that. Like i I'm like, like.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 4: I said, if he's wishy washy.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't think that that's why they have opinions.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think that they Chris Sims's opinion is born
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 5: on like, well, it won't really make much sense if
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 5: I say, well, he could play tackle, but I think
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 5: he's going to be a guard. So I'm just going
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 5: to say he's a guard. I don't think that.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 4: That's what they know, that's what they do.
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe they do. You know more about this behind the
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 5: scenes stuff than I do.
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 7: It sounds like he's responding to like the dismissiveness of
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 7: just like in fact, he's a guard.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 5: But let's let's call it what it is. He had
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 5: an opinion that he didn't like, and so he just
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 5: like dismisses it.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 4: We all, we all do it. Well, he hadn't dismiss it.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 4: Do it?
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 5: You get mad about it? And again, I'm not here
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 5: to tell people how to feel. It doesn't bother me.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 5: When someone doesn't think like me, that doesn't bother me
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 5: in the least. You know, I am here to have
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 5: different opinions forged. I am very comfortable in my own.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 5: But I think, but I don't think that Mike is wrong.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 4: ESPN likes it when Dave gets mad, you know, that's that's.
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, I just personally, I think Chris Sims has
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 7: had a history of stupid takes, and I just I
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 7: don't really even qualify anything he says.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: I think a guard great, Like I just some of
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: the stuff in this.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 8: What happened to me, Like we've all been very wrong
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 8: about the draft a million times, and Chris Sims and
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 8: I are in the same boat on that. Like I'm
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 8: not trying to say that that he's you know, I
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 8: probably shouldn't have said that. I I don't take them
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 8: seriously because I do take everybody's opinion somewhat seriously that
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 8: I feel like has some credibility. But my my only
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 8: point with with all of this is is that it's
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 8: just one man's opinion. Okay, that.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 5: That line of work that I don't really take overly seriously.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 5: And he hasn't been around much lately, but Merril Hodge, Yeah,
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 5: I used to like because I just was like, this
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 5: is a guy that I was consistently seeming like. I
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 5: was like, I don't look at anything his way, and
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, you know what, I might I
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 5: might feel better about it if I feel opposite him,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 5: because maybe he just looks at football in a different way. Now,
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 5: do I know as much about football as Merril Hodge?
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 5: Of course, not the guy played.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 4: But these guys are they're paid to have opinions. No
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 4: one wants to hear them, you know, through their top
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 4: five with seven guys, you know like some like, some
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 4: of them.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 5: Do right, But they're paid to have opinions. And he
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 5: would be paid just as much as if his opinion
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 5: was will Campbell will be a tackle?
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 5: Yes, he wouldn't make any less or more if there's
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 5: very thin he thinks that he's going to be a guy.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 4: I think that. I think he believes the chances are
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 4: he's going to be I do believe that.
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think that the money for him is like
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 5: I can make more, I can get more attention. If
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 5: I say he's going to be a point.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 4: Is Dave wouldn't have been as mad as if he said,
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a guard.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 5: We're coming up here too, we should get we should
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 5: get ready.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know you have to be definitive on
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 4: these shows. You can't be wishy washy.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's also too sorry, but how many
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 7: NFL executives that are making picks today are making horrible
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 7: mistakes that we won't know about for the next year
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 7: or two. But it's just how it works. Like, yeah,
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 7: that's the NFL, even the teams that study this stuff.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 7: Like I just to joke around, like we kind of
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 7: costplay it like we do our own little research. Ultimately
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 7: we're not picking any players. But these people whose jobs
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 7: depend on it, they.
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: Screw it up too. It's it's so far from it.
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 5: That's when I get mad, is like it, you know,
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 5: but these guys they don't even know what they're doing. Like,
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 5: of course not. It's just like the teams like they're
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, they obviously come from it with far more
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 5: information and far more, far more experience, and there's all
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 5: kinds of missteps all the time because it's a hard
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 5: thing to do. So like I don't know if that's why,
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 5: Like I love to tease myself about the Vernon Golstons
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 5: of the world so that I completely we missed the
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 5: boat on. But like I'm not seriously mad about it.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, how you million this job and talk about
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 7: it for X amounts a week and write all these
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 7: different big boys and not have some dumb wrong things.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 5: Because let's hope that Chris Simms. This is one of
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 5: the silly things that we can make fun of him
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 5: about in two years, Like this guy didn't even think
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 5: he could even play tackle and now he's a Pro
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 5: Bowl attacker. That's what you gotta hope.
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 8: I'll give him credits. He definitely goes against con consensus
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 8: with a lot of his rankings, Like he's not afraid
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 8: to buck trends and like have Drake may as the
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 8: sixth best quarterback in the class last year when everybody
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 8: thought he was the third.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 5: And he really liked Mac Jones coming out, didn't he
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 5: He tended that one.
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 8: And I'm not saying this is as a knock on him.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 5: But he we all loved Chris Sims.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 8: Then he tends to gravitate towards more of the pro
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 8: ready guys, right, Like he was really high on Bo
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 8: Nicks because he just thought that Bo Nicks was ready
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 8: for the league from a quarterback technical standpoint. That that
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 8: that tends to be his m O with quarterbacks, his
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 8: you know Nicks, that makes sense, Nix like those types
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 8: of Matt Jones was.
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 5: More NFL ready when he came out.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 4: He was. That's what his that was. That was the
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 4: highest floor of the quarterbacks, but maybe the lowest ceiling
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 4: at the time.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 5: Turns out both right, So Wilson he is better than Zachs.
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  Speaker 4: The Browns pick is in. That means the Raiders are
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 4: up next, followed by your New England Patriots in England.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 4: So that's coming up quick. So we'll go to a
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 4: phone call or two before we get there. Colleen's in Houston.
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 4: What's up Colleen?
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  Speaker 18: Hey guys? So, uh, my question is are very good
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 18: tackles in college boys to be right tackles? Because it
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 18: feels like any good tackle is the right tackle except
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 18: for Will Campbell, who then there's a problem with him
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 18: because of his online and I just I want to
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 18: know what you guys think about that.
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  Speaker 14: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, there were some there were some, you know, left
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 8: tackles in the top of this draft that all went
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 8: in the top in the top ten, Kelvin Banks, Josh
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 8: Simmons at the end, and Connery at the end, and
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 8: the nursery went today, you know those That was the
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 8: group we talked about. That group A Ton Membo is
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 8: the right tackle, you know?
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 5: That was the only highly right am I missing one?
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 5: He was the high the only high lead.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 8: Radio I mean, big Oz was wash the.
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  Speaker 4: Back of the envelope. Guys just went Harold Fann and Jr.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 4: Went to the Browns.
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  Speaker 8: So, I uh, the Patriots are on the clock, and
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 8: I just got to say, I think we're gonna love
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 8: this one.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it's Jalen Nole based on L like
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 5: this close.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: You're close.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 8: Oh yes, they're kind of cooking.
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I just I'm gonna go back to
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 7: what I I mean. I just think we've done a
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 7: good job of prepping the fans and our viewers for
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 7: what's happening here in this draft tonight, and I like
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 7: that it's probably about.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 4: No, let's wait a little bit.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 8: Okay, we'll wait a little bit on this one.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited though.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 8: This is Paul did like the lap around yet last
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 8: night with Will Campbell. This is a lap around type
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 8: of guy for me personally, I'm I mean, I'm pretty
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 8: jacked up about this one. Dude. I'm not gonna lie.
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 4: Robin san Diego. Deuce is quickly becoming one of my
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 4: favorite Peu personalities. I'll be honest. At first, I wasn't
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 4: a fan. I usually perform when Fred and Paul swaps
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 4: stories about parking lot arguments in middle school fights from
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 4: decades ago, rather than diving into the data. But with
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 4: Do stepping up and sharing more from his father's athletic
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 4: history to possible family ties to Canada, his new appreciation
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 4: for historical rhann actors, and especially the wide range of
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 4: careers pursued by his cousin, He's really started to come
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 4: into his own rate drafts. So far, I can't wait
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 4: to see what they do next. What we're about to
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 4: see pretty quickly here the Raiders selection is in. Who
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 4: the Raiders take the Raiders hasn't been listed yet. Who
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 4: did the Raiders take.
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 8: The Raiders have? Yeah, we don't know yet. Oh really,
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 8: we do not know yet. The tipping has been a
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 8: little bit. People kind kind of gave up a little bit.
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 8: I think tip they took Darien Porter.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, the cornerback out of Ioasa State and New England
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 4: is on the clock. Might not be on my list
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 4: Darien Porter.
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 4: I think he's outside of the Beast one hundred.
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 8: He was right on the fringe of my top one hundred.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 8: Really good combine tester, high weight, speed, exact exactly what
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 8: I was about to just say that that's what he is.
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 8: He's a little bit of an older prospect though, and
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 8: I think that that, you know, hurt him in a
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 8: lot of people's eyes. He's like twenty four, but he's
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 8: he's a good zone corner, good athlete. Tested. Well, there's
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 8: like some like Tyreek Woolland type vibes with him. That's
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 8: all I got.
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, let's go to Aaron in Utah. What's up Aaron?
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, just real quick, Keith Tippet picks.
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  Speaker 10: We love it.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 13: All the haters hate it, but whatever.
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 12: Really, it's only thirty seconds a minute difference.
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 13: Tops you know, it's not a big deal.
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 5: Evan, You're only getting hate just because you're knowledgeable and you're.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 29: Bold and you know what you're saying, and you're not
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 29: couching it, right, So you're not saying I think this.
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 5: I think that he's obviously he's also hateable it more.
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 13: It's only one opinion, so okay.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 9: And then last thing, if you guys could come away
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 9: with one guy or one position out of the next
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 9: two picks, what would it be?
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  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 5: I'm going to sound like a fraud, but wide receiver.
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 4: All right, so let's let's uh, they.
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 5: Took a wide receiver and all this is the I
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 5: to answer that question, that's the position I would have.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 4: Said, one wide receiver would they pick?
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 8: The Patriots have picked Washington State wide receiver Kyle Williams.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 8: Fantastic pick again by the Patriots, who I think. Now
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 8: I can safely say I'm really loving the draft honestly,
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 8: like this is not it's been. I really like what
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 8: they've done so far. Everybody has been clamoring for speed
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 8: and explosiveness at the wide receiver position, and they got
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 8: a guy and Kyle Williams who ran a four to
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 8: four forty yard dash and can absolutely fly with the
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 8: ball in his hands as well, big playmaker, great separator,
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 8: one of the best pure separators in the entire draft.
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 8: So this is a really exciting pick to me, another
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 8: big board guy. So that's three for three.
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: You're one up on me.
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so we're doing well.
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 4: They were going to go offense big yeah so far,
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 4: and they have.
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 5: I like the pick of Kyle Wins too. I just
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 5: said I needed a fast duty to make plays. This
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 5: is two in a row, two playmakers.
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, yes, So give me some stats.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so he can play on the outside and and
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 8: on the inside. I think that was what I like
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 8: the most about him. That maybe tip the scales for
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 8: the Patriots a little bit over Jalen Knowle, who was
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 8: really a slot only type of player. This is a
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 8: guy that can play on the outside and actually want
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 8: to go round against Travis Hunter at Washington State, let's
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 8: go to the podium.
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  Speaker 30: In the twenty five NFL Draft, the New England Patriots
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 30: select Kyle Williams, wide receiver, Washington States.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you see, I mean, you know, five ten and
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 7: change a little under five to eleven one ninety's that's
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 7: the thing with him. But you know, even just pulling
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 7: his best stuff up here, and then the thing is
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 7: sticks out his quick uncover, guy who gets open, guy
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 7: who can get off the Travis Hunter by that talking about.
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 8: Him, And he can also you know, catch and run
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 8: with the football very well too. This is a guy
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 8: that can create plays with the football in his hands
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 8: as well.
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 5: And Wood throwing him the ball to that that I
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 5: think was from.
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 8: N He can take short passes and he can turn
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 8: him into longer gains. But I think what the thing
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 8: that really stands out above the rest with Kyle Williams
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 8: is his ability to separate. This guy is a true separator.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 8: We're not talking about somebody. We have a speed in
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 8: size concerns.
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 5: We have a slate.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 1: Henderson Digs Williams.
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 8: You have two guys here and Traveon Henderson and Kyle
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 8: Williams that can eat up grass man Like. These guys
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 8: can fly, they can make big plays. They are explosive
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 8: chunk play artists. So if you wanted speed, you wanted
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 8: big playability, you wanted separation on the outside at wide receiver,
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 8: you got it. You got it with both these picks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I just you know, I'm just I guess
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 7: I'm proud that we've been talking about this guy all night.
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 7: We've talking about what we want. I mean, been saying
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 7: we want speed the whole time. Like you said, Evan,
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 7: like I don't want to you know, you feel like
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 7: you need to say, I'm not I'm not lying. I
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 7: got really am excited, like I've been saying for months now,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 7: like this is what I wanted them to add speed
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 7: at this wide receiver position. Kyle Williams brings what this
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 7: wide receiver room doesn't have right now, which is that
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 7: quick uncoverability, the ability to get downfield. It's a huge
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 7: thing with Drake may. We saw how many goal balls
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 7: did he throw last year in practice? Few in the
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 7: game too, uh, mostly to Kaysehan Boody. But he has
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 7: that ability to hit downfield. It's an element that their
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 7: offenses lacked. And I think, you know, the excitement's really
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 7: building for me too. And now you have one more
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 7: pick coming up, chance to really you know, put an
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 7: exclamation on these first two rounds. And like I said
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 7: at the top, you know, I feel like these are
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 7: the days you really need to move the needle, and
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 7: I think.
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  Speaker 1: They've done that with these first two picks here on
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: day two.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, dude, skeed some of your edge guys here.
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 8: Maybe at seventy seven.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 4: Throw me a bone, Notott, I know.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, look, I got what I needed, all right.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 8: Like if you're Josh McDaniels right now, you're sitting back
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 8: there and you said you got me a I've tackled
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 8: and two big play skill players, Like I'm good, Like,
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 8: go get yourself some pass rush because I'm all set
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 8: over here.
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 7: You know, can our friend in La I wonder can
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 7: he call back in does he want to tell us
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 7: how he's feeling now about you know, I mean the
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 7: little bit when you really sit back and evaluate the
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 7: Henderson pick, you know, instead of just looking at it
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 7: as a running back, looking as you guys said, what
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 7: it is a three down guy, a guy who can
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 7: catch the ball, a guy who can.
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: Make big plays consistently.
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 5: And now another rest And I look at the collectives
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 5: like they needed playmakers. These are playmakers. Yeah, that's how
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 5: you know. Like you can sit there and say they're
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 5: trying to win game seventeen thirteen, but their acts belide
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 5: that line of thought. They're trying to playmake.
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 4: If you want to make more plays, you.
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 5: Got to get playmakers, right.
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 8: I think. You know what I also just really love
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 8: about this pick here for the Patriots is you know,
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 8: they didn't reach on him like they will let him fall.
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 8: They let him wait. They waited for the right area
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 8: to pick him at sixty nine. I had him in
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 8: my last last mock draft to the Patriots at thirty
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 8: eight because I felt like they were going to like
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 8: the player, but I thought that they would take him
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 8: around earlier than this. They waited for him. They got
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 8: him where he probably should have gone. But Fred, you
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 8: asked for some stats. He had twelve hundred yards and
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 8: fourteen touchdowns last year at Washington State on seventy catches.
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 8: So that's seventeen yards per catch that he averaged last
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 8: year at Washington State. So I again, what I really
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 8: thought separated him from some of this group. You know,
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 8: we talked a little bit about Royals, We talked a
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 8: little bit about nol his ability to play on the
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 8: inside and the outside. This is a guy that can
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 8: line up on the outside and win on routes and
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 8: win on vertical routes and stretch the field a little bit.
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 8: So I think that probably separated him from that group.
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 8: Among that group, really good release package, really good ability
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 8: to stack corners on the outside. Fun player, like fun
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 8: fund tape, fun player.
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 1: This was the gronk pick who wasn't This was at
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: least got a little gronkn.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 4: So are you in touch with Barth? What's he saying?
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 8: Well, bar I gotta tell you to give him his props.
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 8: This was Barr's guy. Bart told me about Kyle Williams
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 8: when I went down to Mobile for the Senior Bowl
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 8: back in January, and he said, do me a favor
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 8: you know, watch the Washington state wide receiver and let
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 8: me know what you think. I think that's going to
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 8: be like my my mid round, you know, sleeper type
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 8: of guy. He was all over it with Kyle Williams
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 8: and I was late to the party compared to him,
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 8: and he he put me on him, so I'm the game.
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 5: Oh sorry.
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 8: He absolutely is married to the game.
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 5: And I did hear him on one of my shows
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 5: talking about that. He's like he came back from the seaboy.
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 5: He's like he couldn't understand why more people weren't talking
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 5: about him. So he was someone that really stood out
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 5: to him in those practices. And then all of a sudden,
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 5: as the process continued, he started to rise and he
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 5: was like, Oh, I'm glad that I'm not crazy with
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 5: this guy.
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to give anything.
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 5: We have him.
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 1: But weren't you talking to people who told you that
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 1: Kyle Wims was.
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 5: Going to go a lot higher than people were Yeah?
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 8: Expect Yeah, I mean he started the process of three
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 8: pick and then he just quickly rows up the board.
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 8: Great week down in Mobile, he puts down a four
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 8: to four in the forty yard dash at the combine,
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 8: so he checks off the speed box, and like I
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 8: keep saying, I think the thing that's so exciting about
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 8: the pick is that this is a guy that can
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 8: really get open, Like he can really separate, and he
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 8: can really run routes and create separation, which frankly, some
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 8: of the picks they've made at wide receiver lately, we've
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 8: had that concern. You know, we had that concern last
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 8: year with Jalen Polk, like that, this is not Jalen Polk.
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 8: This is a different type of receiver than Jalen Polk
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 8: and more complete receiver than like a Taekwon Thorton, you know,
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 8: not just a one trick pony. So it's an exciting pick.
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 5: He's almost five eleven, yeah.
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 1: Five ten and a half, one ninety. You know we're
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 1: in a four to four. Uh you want his wingspan
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 1: speed slot.
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 5: I love Evans terminology that I'm going to go with
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 5: speed slot.
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: Speeds got good speed.
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 8: Like I said, I think he can play some on
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 8: the outside, Like I don't think that's his best usage
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 8: is probably to move him around and let him hunt
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 8: matchups and hunt space and let him get open off
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage. But I love to fit for
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 8: Josh McDaniels. McDaniels is gonna move this guy all around
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 8: the formation. He'll get him off the line. He'll use
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 8: stacks and bunches and pick plays and things like that
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 8: to get him free. You get him catch and run opportunities.
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 8: He's really a burner, a really explosive player. And I
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 8: just both guys that they picked today, Trayvon Henderson and
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 8: Kyle Williams, are gonna make big plays.
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 4: No Jeremiah wants to know if Noel's there at seventy seven,
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 4: do you double dip Personally, I would strongly capital letters
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 4: consider it.
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Now you're in ten. That's a little
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 5: replication to me. Yeah, they're similar players, and yeah, they've
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 5: deemed that Kyle Williams is a better player. Yeah, I
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 5: think you have other needs. Yeah.
• 2:49:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I said, I think Kyle Williams is the
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 8: more complete receiver in the ability to play on the outside.
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 8: I think that's what changes it a little bit. I
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 8: think Nole's probably a little bit more highly touted coming
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 8: out as a slot receiver. But if you wanted a
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 8: guy that could play some reps on the outside and
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 8: be maybe more of like a fifty to fifty split
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 8: inside outside. Then this is a player that can do that.
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 8: So I just look at all the things that they
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 8: missed on on wide receivers in the past, and I
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 8: think that this is this shows me that it's a
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 8: little bit of a different scout, is a little bit
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 8: different player.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 4: Dana Virginia, Michigan says, Patriots pick a fast wide receiver.
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be someone driving in front of
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 4: Eldrid's truck right now. Yeah, yeah, Eldred you listening. What
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 4: do you think.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 1: It always works so flawlessly?
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I say Josh mctanna is probably probably Owes, Ryan
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 7: Couten and Mike Frabile, Elliot Wolf maybe at dinner tonight,
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 7: because I mean, just what fun I've been a lot
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 7: thinking about that. It's just where Josh is at, how
• 2:50:59
  Speaker 7: he's going to Taylor of the offense, to Drake May
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 7: and there's just some fun stuff to play with now,
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 7: I mean across the board from Stefan Diggs to you know,
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 7: I just I'll throw the rookie, you know, the rookies
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 7: from last year in there too. I'd be excited to
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 7: try to get something out of those guys. I think
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 7: they're they're more talented than they showed last year. I
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 7: don't know how talented they could be, but Josh gonna
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 7: have some fun.
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 4: Cathal and Ireland wants me to tell you, Evan that
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 4: Chris Simms had Williams at his WR as his WR
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 4: two he did.
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: I love Chris Sims.
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just Christims. But that's the crux of
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 5: my argument, Like I don't just dismiss when I don't agree, right,
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 5: but like sometimes you agree sometimes.
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 8: I said earlier with Chris Simms that he doesn't shy
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 8: away from being different, Like he's not a consensus guy
• 2:51:49
  Speaker 8: when he makes his rankings, and having Kyle Williams at
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 8: high as certainly not the consensus.
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's made a reputation in a in a
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 4: career at being dumb. So let's go to uh kidding Chris,
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 4: we hired him in a presonnel department Landon and Jackson
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 4: to Buffaloedo.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 5: I didn't the Patriots. Patriots is weed. I know, like
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 5: you're not supposed to do that in the media. But Dave,
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 5: let's speak grown ups and say it's weak.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 4: David writes in uh, he says, we all know the
• 2:52:17
  Speaker 4: next pick will be Jack Sawyer book.
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 8: It honestly though, like I wouldn't hate it. And at
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 8: this point I'm being sincere dude, like I would say
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 8: that getting back to the trenches. You know, you got
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 8: your skilled players, you got your speed and your explosiveness
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 8: on offense. You needed to do it. Now go back
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 8: to the trenches, you know, get an edge, get it,
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 8: Get another offensive lineman, you know, whether it's a tackle
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 8: or guard or both, you know, and try to beef
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 8: up the trenches again now because I think you know,
• 2:52:43
  Speaker 8: these two guys are are going to be fun to
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 8: play with, but you gotta keep Drake May upright to
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 8: play with them.
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Paul laughed at me.
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 7: We had I had a question on my ask me
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 7: anything in the newsletter and someone was like, you know,
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 7: what what four things have to happen for you?
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 4: Or not?
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 7: I don't know if they said for there's what would
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 7: you what would have to happen for for this to
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 7: be a good draft for you?
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 1: And I said, final.
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 7: Left tackle, a wide receiver with speed, one of the
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 7: running backs, and one of these edges.
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 1: And they've hit three of the four right now. I
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 1: won't lie.
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 7: I mean I'm a little bit less enthusiastic now about
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 7: some of the edge rushers for three down potential than
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 7: I was earlier in the draft. But you got to
• 2:53:18
  Speaker 7: give to get and you know that's something that we'll see.
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 5: Guy just went too with Landon Jackson Jackson.
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 7: But I still say, you know, I'm still open to
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 7: a guy like Josiah Stewart who probably not gonna be
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 7: a three down defensive end, like I thought a guy
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 7: like Nick Gordon could potentially be for this off for
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 7: this defense. But I think you would fill a need
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 7: and bring some juice to the pass rush. That's I mean,
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 7: when I look at this team right now, it's one
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 7: of my biggest remaining concerns. We know a lot of
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 7: what their concerns are, but invigorating that pass rush, making
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 7: sure that pass rush is elite, not you know, Chase
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 7: on Harold Landry. They'll bring they'll bring some juice in experience,
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 7: and they'll run stunts and they'll get some pressure. But
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 7: who's that guy who's gonna come off the edge and
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 7: have some speed.
• 2:53:55
  Speaker 4: I think it's necessary our next pick has to be
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 4: scat of a. I mean, come on, right.
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 1: I mean right, we do I think I don't know.
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 8: I think I would just love to see them go
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 8: back to the trenches now, like use seventy seven and
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 8: one oh six offensive line, defensive line. You got your
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 8: you got your toys, you got your skilled players, you know,
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 8: go get.
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 1: Like corner, Like is there some value at corner right now?
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 1: Or there's some guys that have fallen because of the corner, Like,
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think did Revel go yet?
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know he's the guy that he's supremely
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 2:54:31
  Speaker 8: He's about to do go now, Thomas, I think the Jets. Yeah, No,
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 8: Jacob Parrish from Kansas State, it's another guy I've really liked. Uh.
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 8: You know, can see him playing in the slot. Comp
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 8: him to like a Jonathan Jones type. Uh. Shavon Revels
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 8: like a size speed prospect, you know, coming off that injury.
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 8: Quincy Riley's got good ball skills, good good on ball production.
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 8: Noel Williams is the guy people really like from Cal two.
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 8: There there definitely are corners out there to be had,
• 2:54:59
  Speaker 8: for sure. I mean just looking quickly here at the
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 8: edge rushers. You know, Jordan Birch and Brady Swinson are
• 2:55:05
  Speaker 8: two guys people like Princey's still out there as well
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 8: if they wanted to go that direction, and Jack Sawyer
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 8: and Baron Sorel as well. So I think there's still
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 8: plenty of talent on Edge two. And you know, I'm
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 8: sure there's still plenty of talent at like Interior Offensive Line.
• 2:55:21
  Speaker 8: You know, Mylom's still out there, fair Child, Mabou Frasier,
• 2:55:26
  Speaker 8: you know those types of guys.
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 4: Let's see, I gentleman, says Katina. She's from Houston. I
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 4: don't mind when people disagree with my opinions, but respectfully,
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 4: I can't take anything. Chris Simms says seriously, as far
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, he lost any legitimacy after his time
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 4: as QB one at UT where for the most part
• 2:55:47
  Speaker 4: he behaved like that animal Fred called Richie Campanella. Until
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 4: proven otherwise, I shall be cautiously optimistic about all our picks.
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 4: I love that the one word Will Campbell used to
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 4: describe his play was dirty. I've heard nasty, I heard violent. Also,
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think dirty dirty. I want the Old Line
• 2:56:05
  Speaker 4: to be full of intimidating dudes, even if they look
• 2:56:08
  Speaker 4: like giant man babies when they take their helmets off, Chub. Indeed,
• 2:56:13
  Speaker 4: can we focus on some defense now? All right? Yeah, yeah,
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 4: now you've got Duce listening.
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 5: I think they did plenty of focusing on the defense.
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 4: And that's the free agency with.
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 5: Milton Williams and Carlton Davis and Harold Landry and Robert Splaine.
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 5: I mean they signed four starters and I thought they
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 5: even got the what's his face the defensive tackle Kyries.
• 2:56:34
  Speaker 7: Tonga, Like, seriously, for you.
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 4: One young edge.
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 1: I want one young edge.
• 2:56:42
  Speaker 8: I'm with.
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 5: He would be sick of taking take another guy like
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 5: I love, I liked you a plan of the two guys.
• 2:56:50
  Speaker 5: You know it's the trenches. Yeah six yeah, sure, line
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 5: defensive line.
• 2:56:56
  Speaker 8: I disagree with a lot on this because it's a
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 8: really great it's a really great edge class. It's it's
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 8: the strength of the draft. Is these a rushers? So
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 8: I just grab one of them, like it doesn't you know,
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 8: have to go crazy and draft when early, like you know,
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 8: some some people are maybe suggesting they should have done.
• 2:57:14
  Speaker 8: But I just go get one now.
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 7: I mean I wouldn't be appost to Jack Sawyer. I
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 7: mean he was He's the big board guy for me.
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 7: I just a little more pass rush juice.
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 1: That's you know, the.
• 2:57:22
  Speaker 7: Way I'm leaning, I'd probably said like more Jesiah Stewart
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 7: right now than Jack Sawr. But I would definitely take
• 2:57:27
  Speaker 7: a guy like Jack Sawyer, who I think you know
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 7: could play early downs, and then I paul your thing,
• 2:57:32
  Speaker 7: allow Chase On to be the past rush guy and
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 7: let him do that specially.
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's fine. I just don't want him playing
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 5: every down or anything like that.
• 2:57:41
  Speaker 4: Let's go to Andre in New York. Hey, Andre Dello, everybody, Hey,
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 4: happy draft Dave.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 29: Yeah, I wanted to say thank you guys for all
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 29: if you do when it comes down to breaking down
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 29: statistics and everything. I'm kind of new to football.
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 10: I got a thing.
• 2:57:59
  Speaker 29: It's a two thousand and eight so I love watching
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 29: all the dissection of the Patriots that my squad since
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 29: two thousand and eight. Any Who, I wanted to know
• 2:58:07
  Speaker 29: I love the draft picks first of off, and wanted
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 29: to know, if you think we get a fullback and
• 2:58:11
  Speaker 29: get back to like running the ball, we can get
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 29: another thousand yard rusher. I don't think we had one
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 29: since Lamango twenty two, so I think that would help
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 29: Drake May a.
• 2:58:22
  Speaker 4: Lot Okay, So will we get a fullback? I don't
• 2:58:26
  Speaker 4: think so, and I hope that that's not what's required
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 4: in today's seventeen game season to get a thousand yard rusher. Yeah,
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 4: you know so, Like, but Josh McDaniels has loved the
• 2:58:39
  Speaker 4: fullback in the past. But I don't think that that's
• 2:58:42
  Speaker 4: gonna happen.
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I said it before. I just think he'd
• 2:58:44
  Speaker 1: already be here.
• 2:58:45
  Speaker 7: You're You're not right, Oh, our whole offense is gonna
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 7: run through a Day three rookie Like I don't.
• 2:58:50
  Speaker 1: It's just hard to see.
• 2:58:51
  Speaker 4: Yep. So the Patriots are getting close. The Broncos pick
• 2:58:55
  Speaker 4: is in, then come the forty nine Ers Cowboys, and
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 4: then the Patriots. So we're getting close to that second
• 2:59:02
  Speaker 4: pick in the third round. This is the Matthew Judon pick.
• 2:59:07
  Speaker 4: Tim's in Seattle. What's up? Tim?
• 2:59:09
  Speaker 10: To me?
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, I'm.
• 2:59:12
  Speaker 31: So happy they took Kyle Williams like I said they should,
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 31: didn't have to trade up and his uh felder would day.
• 2:59:19
  Speaker 19: I felt a little tingle.
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, something moved, something move, That's right.
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 19: I'm pumped.
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 13: So I'm just curious here best available.
• 2:59:32
  Speaker 31: What do you guys think in Jordan Birch here or
• 2:59:35
  Speaker 31: Jack Toyer, let me know what you think.
• 2:59:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something something like George Sanders.
• 2:59:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Jordans Jordan Birch is a is a good good
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 8: shout here.
• 2:59:44
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:59:45
  Speaker 8: Joshua Farmer is another guy that they had in for
• 2:59:48
  Speaker 8: a thirty visit. And uh, you can play into your
• 2:59:52
  Speaker 8: defensive line or play end. Probably a hand in the
• 2:59:55
  Speaker 8: dird type of player. But if they're gonna run that
• 2:59:57
  Speaker 8: like four to three style defense, then maybe he can
• 2:59:59
  Speaker 8: be a four three n for Vrabel Brady's Brandon Swinson.
• 3:00:04
  Speaker 8: Sorry I keep saying his name wrong from LSU's a
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 8: sort of in that category of more stand up edgreshers
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 8: as his princely who I am not going to try
• 3:00:11
  Speaker 8: to pronounce his last name is I said, I always
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 8: butcher it. So yeah, there there's a lot of edge
• 3:00:17
  Speaker 8: talent here. I would say safety still may safety yeah
• 3:00:22
  Speaker 8: maybe yeah, safety yeah, free Safety's I.
• 3:00:24
  Speaker 5: Also think Mike is right about corner you can you
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 5: can use another corner too, and there's a handful available.
• 3:00:29
  Speaker 4: But what about Xavier Watts.
• 3:00:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd like Xavier Wats a lot. I mean, he
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 8: plays with his hair on fire. He's a really aggressive player.
• 3:00:38
  Speaker 8: Really just flies to the football.
• 3:00:40
  Speaker 4: See more of a strong safety.
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 8: I would say so. Probably. There are some concerns about
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 8: his top end speed and is a range from center field,
• 3:00:49
  Speaker 8: but he plays with great instincts in a great motor
• 3:00:52
  Speaker 8: and almost makes up for it with just being there
• 3:00:56
  Speaker 8: all the time.
• 3:00:56
  Speaker 1: You know, trade it back, did they?
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 7: Well, they moved so all of a sudden, they're they're
• 3:01:04
  Speaker 7: about eight picks ahead.
• 3:01:06
  Speaker 4: Now, well, waiting on the forty nine ers Cowboys? Oh
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 4: oh yes, what happened here? Where do we go?
• 3:01:12
  Speaker 5: Don't see us?
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 4: No?
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 10: Wait?
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 4: Where did we go?
• 3:01:14
  Speaker 5: Till we go? Out of the third round?
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 1: Seven ten picks? Now in between Tampa and the Lac.
• 3:01:20
  Speaker 5: Tampa and the Lack.
• 3:01:24
  Speaker 8: They traded with the Patriots. The trade is seventy seven
• 3:01:29
  Speaker 8: for eighty five and one forty six. So the Patriots
• 3:01:32
  Speaker 8: now have one forty four and one forty six and
• 3:01:35
  Speaker 8: one seventy one all in the fifth round. So they
• 3:01:38
  Speaker 8: added a fifth round pick here.
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, And so the next pick that the Patriots have
• 3:01:43
  Speaker 4: is number eightighty five in the third round?
• 3:01:47
  Speaker 8: Correct, yep?
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 5: So what do they have? Eighty five, one forty four
• 3:01:51
  Speaker 5: and what else?
• 3:01:52
  Speaker 1: One forty six?
• 3:01:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so there are now there are picks that are
• 3:01:55
  Speaker 8: left are eighty five, one oh six, one forty four,
• 3:01:58
  Speaker 8: one forty six, one, two twenty, and two thirty eight.
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 8: So they have one, two, three, four, five, six seven
• 3:02:05
  Speaker 8: picks left.
• 3:02:05
  Speaker 4: Now what they picked up more picks? Paul love It.
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 4: Are you happy with that trade down?
• 3:02:15
  Speaker 7: I don't know, generally, no, just because I wanted to
• 3:02:17
  Speaker 7: like make the pick and like put a bow on
• 3:02:19
  Speaker 7: the evening, but I wasn't like, Oh man, I hope
• 3:02:22
  Speaker 7: they're gonna be able to get a certain player that's
• 3:02:23
  Speaker 7: right here. So I guess they probably see a lot
• 3:02:25
  Speaker 7: of guys similar right now, which is generally how it
• 3:02:28
  Speaker 7: seems like the rest of the NFL is viewing the
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 7: board here in the middle of the third round.
• 3:02:33
  Speaker 1: So I guess it's just it is what it is.
• 3:02:35
  Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what they're waiting on.
• 3:02:36
  Speaker 5: Woild you say one forty six and one seventy one, Okay, yeah,
• 3:02:39
  Speaker 5: it's just one forty six they added. Yeah, correct, So
• 3:02:42
  Speaker 5: they moved from seventy seven to eighty five and got
• 3:02:45
  Speaker 5: one forty six to do that correct the fifth rounder?
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, um, you're killing me, very you're killing me. Okay,
• 3:02:57
  Speaker 4: So what do we do Should we stick around?
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 1: Is just stick around?
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 10: Yes?
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 1: Who was the trade wind go by Quick?
• 3:03:03
  Speaker 8: It was with the Panthers. Al Yeah, I mean I
• 3:03:07
  Speaker 8: just rattled off a bunch of names at this point
• 3:03:09
  Speaker 8: in the draft. I think, you know, there's a lot
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 8: of players that are similarly graded at this point, and
• 3:03:14
  Speaker 8: you know kind of all I would say heavy, heavy
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 8: on certain positions as well. You know, edge corner. There's
• 3:03:23
  Speaker 8: obviously a million running backs left still that they're that
• 3:03:26
  Speaker 8: running back run really hasn't fully started yet. So the
• 3:03:30
  Speaker 8: Patriots probably felt like they were going to get the
• 3:03:32
  Speaker 8: same player that they're gonna they were going to pick
• 3:03:34
  Speaker 8: at seventy seven, at eighty five, and they had.
• 3:03:37
  Speaker 4: A pick Tom and Melbourne says this emails for Mike
• 3:03:40
  Speaker 4: to so suck at Mike. I love you, but hearing
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 4: you whine about front seven for two years as we
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 4: watch perhaps the worst offense in the NFL has been
• 3:03:48
  Speaker 4: very annoying. I'm glad they've totally avoided making a front
• 3:03:52
  Speaker 4: seven pick so far. You will deal with Keon White
• 3:03:55
  Speaker 4: starting in week one, and you will like it. Seriously,
• 3:03:58
  Speaker 4: did that guy run over your or something? Now that
• 3:04:01
  Speaker 4: the joking's out of the way, loving the draft coverage
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 4: and thanks for all you do.
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense was thirtieth and dv away, so I
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 3:04:08
  Speaker 7: But the defense was terrible too, So don't fault me
• 3:04:10
  Speaker 7: for want defensive guals.
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 5: I'm making fun of you because I believe that they've
• 3:04:15
  Speaker 5: significantly addressed the defense, not because I think you were
• 3:04:17
  Speaker 5: wrong about criticizing the last defense.
• 3:04:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think I'm wrong to say to
• 3:04:22
  Speaker 7: look at the defensive front. Oh god, no, this is
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 7: a veteran defensive front that you're gonna get a year
• 3:04:27
  Speaker 7: or two out of it best.
• 3:04:28
  Speaker 5: And the guys that people love that have played have
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 5: been responsible for the thirtieth dv away right right, And
• 3:04:34
  Speaker 5: so they needed to get better, like I just think
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 5: they did right well.
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Landry was released, he could have signed anywhere.
• 3:04:41
  Speaker 4: He's a lot of money.
• 3:04:42
  Speaker 7: In the defense, they did, But I'm just saying the
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 7: most what's the most important part of a defense their
• 3:04:46
  Speaker 7: pass rush.
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 1: Right, Do you feel great? I mean, yeah, I don't
• 3:04:49
  Speaker 1: feel great.
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 5: I don't feel great about the pass rush. I don't,
• 3:04:52
  Speaker 5: But I don't feel great about guys that you're going
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 5: to draft in the third round for your pass rush.
• 3:04:55
  Speaker 7: But that's but that's what I'm banging the table for.
• 3:04:57
  Speaker 7: I'm just asking for a pass rusher in the around,
• 3:05:00
  Speaker 7: and you guys are acting like, no, we've done too
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 7: much on.
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 5: Because I don't think it's really worth wide receiver. Like
• 3:05:05
  Speaker 5: I would rather have Harold Landry than the third round
• 3:05:07
  Speaker 5: pass rush if you wanted to find process.
• 3:05:13
  Speaker 1: No, this is fine.
• 3:05:13
  Speaker 7: No, when you're talking about how they think, well you
• 3:05:17
  Speaker 7: were team Herold Landry and Chase on this.
• 3:05:20
  Speaker 4: No, this was great.
• 3:05:21
  Speaker 1: We got all we need with pass rush. Now we're
• 3:05:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be fine.
• 3:05:23
  Speaker 5: For the record, I haven't mentioned Chase on and I won't, Okay,
• 3:05:31
  Speaker 5: So it's.
• 3:05:32
  Speaker 1: Just like one of their defensive ends period.
• 3:05:34
  Speaker 5: I don't like any of them.
• 3:05:35
  Speaker 4: You don't.
• 3:05:36
  Speaker 5: I think that you're right in saying that they need
• 3:05:39
  Speaker 5: edge help. I think they needed wide receiver help and
• 3:05:43
  Speaker 5: playmaker help in general more than they needed edge help.
• 3:05:46
  Speaker 5: And you can't. I've said this from the start. You
• 3:05:48
  Speaker 5: can't fill every hole.
• 3:05:50
  Speaker 4: We're coming close.
• 3:05:51
  Speaker 5: But still if they take if they take an edge
• 3:05:55
  Speaker 5: guy here, I'm not gonna sit there and say what
• 3:05:58
  Speaker 5: a waste of a pick. They need edge help. I'm
• 3:06:00
  Speaker 5: just not expecting edge help now.
• 3:06:03
  Speaker 8: I think I think I think you're under selling the class,
• 3:06:05
  Speaker 8: like this class is really You've.
• 3:06:07
  Speaker 5: Seen a lot of guys taken in the hundreds and
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 5: they generally hit or miss. And I'm going to these
• 3:06:11
  Speaker 5: guys are going to be in that that range as well. Okay,
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 5: So you can go one hundred and six is in
• 3:06:17
  Speaker 5: the top hundred. I can't say eighty seven is like
• 3:06:20
  Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty five. Okay, So anyway, I like plan.
• 3:06:26
  Speaker 5: I like Evans' plan of the trenches more because I
• 3:06:29
  Speaker 5: do think you can get lineman at this stage that
• 3:06:33
  Speaker 5: can contribute. I would think that the edge guys are
• 3:06:37
  Speaker 5: more skilled guys and the best ones are gone now
• 3:06:41
  Speaker 5: and now you're just kind of taking flyers. Look, here's
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 5: the odds, but I won't hate it if they take
• 3:06:46
  Speaker 5: an edge guy. They need edge helps.
• 3:06:48
  Speaker 4: Realistic. The odds of any draft is the deeper you get,
• 3:06:52
  Speaker 4: the less the odds. And we're really counting on these
• 3:06:56
  Speaker 4: first three picks hitting. And if the first three picks
• 3:07:00
  Speaker 4: of anybody's draft hit, that's a great draft, that's a
• 3:07:03
  Speaker 4: great draft. And the odds of now four or five
• 3:07:07
  Speaker 4: hitting your not round, but your fourth and fifth pick.
• 3:07:10
  Speaker 5: So I'm also.
• 3:07:10
  Speaker 4: Hitting the odds are starting to decrease right now.
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 5: But I like to make fun of Mike and defend
• 3:07:14
  Speaker 5: him at the same time because he's right, Like this defense,
• 3:07:19
  Speaker 5: everybody just has been pounding on the offense, and with
• 3:07:21
  Speaker 5: good reason because it's so obvious that they can't score,
• 3:07:24
  Speaker 5: and people don't realize that the defense has been every
• 3:07:26
  Speaker 5: bit as bad. Well, no, don't see, that's the right.
• 3:07:30
  Speaker 4: The offense doesn't help.
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 5: It, and the defense doesn't help the offense. Well, I
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 5: think they get no help from either because they were
• 3:07:35
  Speaker 5: equally bad on both sides.
• 3:07:37
  Speaker 4: Of the bay. So you think they're equally bad.
• 3:07:39
  Speaker 5: They're horrible on both sides of the ball.
• 3:07:41
  Speaker 4: I would say, until Drake May got here, the offense
• 3:07:43
  Speaker 4: was worse.
• 3:07:46
  Speaker 5: The offense was worse than what.
• 3:07:48
  Speaker 4: Then the defense.
• 3:07:50
  Speaker 5: But they're both last, So what's the difference?
• 3:07:52
  Speaker 4: No, I know, But like as Parcels would say, you know,
• 3:07:54
  Speaker 4: one side gives the other side hope.
• 3:07:56
  Speaker 5: Right, and they get no hope from either side. Right,
• 3:07:58
  Speaker 5: But they can't get off the field and they can't
• 3:08:00
  Speaker 5: stay on the field. So it's a bad combination. If
• 3:08:03
  Speaker 5: a Mike is right.
• 3:08:04
  Speaker 4: If I have to say which one is was worse,
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 4: I would say the offense.
• 3:08:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you can watch a team run
• 3:08:10
  Speaker 5: the ball twenty times in a row and say that
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 5: the offense is worse. The offense went out in that
• 3:08:14
  Speaker 5: game and scored ten points the first two times they
• 3:08:16
  Speaker 5: got the ball. Did they get any help from the defense? No,
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas got a bomb on the next play, and
• 3:08:21
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden it was floodgates open. They got
• 3:08:24
  Speaker 5: help from the offense for at least a quarter. They
• 3:08:27
  Speaker 5: stunk on both sides of the ball. They can't score
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 5: and they can't stop you from scoring.
• 3:08:32
  Speaker 1: They needed.
• 3:08:32
  Speaker 5: This is why I'm gonna make fun of you for
• 3:08:35
  Speaker 5: looking for like a star at eighty five. But you're
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 5: not wrong. They need edge help, No, I mean, and
• 3:08:41
  Speaker 5: that's like I mean, they need they need somebody to
• 3:08:43
  Speaker 5: be able to rush the passer. But I don't know
• 3:08:45
  Speaker 5: where I Evans think about trenches. They need, they need.
• 3:08:48
  Speaker 5: This is why I said, like, if they don't get
• 3:08:49
  Speaker 5: a left tackle, yeah that was it'd be a disaster.
• 3:08:53
  Speaker 5: But like, I'm not expecting to fill the fifteen holes
• 3:08:56
  Speaker 5: that they had to fill. They didn't have more than
• 3:08:58
  Speaker 5: five or six quality the NFL starters. Now, I think
• 3:09:02
  Speaker 5: that they're starting to fill some of those gaps. I
• 3:09:06
  Speaker 5: just would say, like, don't kill that buzz I like
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 5: this draft, don't get a bus star here, and like
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 5: the eightieth pick. But I look at what the needs are.
• 3:09:14
  Speaker 7: I look at the deeps and I say, I'd like
• 3:09:16
  Speaker 7: to at least put an iron in the fire.
• 3:09:17
  Speaker 1: And you're right, maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 5: And that's why I will not make fun of you
• 3:09:22
  Speaker 5: if they take an edge, because they need an edge.
• 3:09:23
  Speaker 7: But I still think, like a guy like Josiah Stuart,
• 3:09:26
  Speaker 7: it's an easy right into the rotation.
• 3:09:28
  Speaker 1: Hey buddy, you're gonna go rush the passer.
• 3:09:29
  Speaker 5: You're gonna do what you do best.
• 3:09:30
  Speaker 1: You're super athletic, you got speed around the corner.
• 3:09:33
  Speaker 7: That's exactly what we Lackett makes some older edge players,
• 3:09:36
  Speaker 7: and I was just you know, looking at I mean,
• 3:09:38
  Speaker 7: they were thirty second and pressure rate on offense thirty second.
• 3:09:40
  Speaker 4: Thirtieth on defense.
• 3:09:41
  Speaker 7: So if you believe in pressure counting, they were terrible
• 3:09:44
  Speaker 7: on offense, they were just a little bit less terrible
• 3:09:46
  Speaker 7: on defense.
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate all the love.
• 3:09:48
  Speaker 8: And I'm not say they were less snaps for deuced.
• 3:09:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not even saying. And because I think. I don't
• 3:09:58
  Speaker 5: mean I don't think they were a little bit worse
• 3:10:00
  Speaker 5: on offense.
• 3:10:01
  Speaker 4: They don't.
• 3:10:03
  Speaker 5: It's like a poetry, poetry.
• 3:10:06
  Speaker 4: Musicians musicians stopped.
• 3:10:09
  Speaker 8: That's that's how I say. I'm agreeing with you.
• 3:10:11
  Speaker 5: I think the defense awful. Did another one of your educations?
• 3:10:15
  Speaker 8: Come on, Paul, and you're just jinxing it now.
• 3:10:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was the one that was going to
• 3:10:19
  Speaker 1: be good.
• 3:10:19
  Speaker 5: I was just they just Lostrell Sus and just crime,
• 3:10:25
  Speaker 5: we're having fun.
• 3:10:26
  Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not saying that fifty I'm not saying any
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 8: of these guys are going to be Terrell's Suggs. But
• 3:10:34
  Speaker 8: this was the strength of the draft. This was the
• 3:10:36
  Speaker 8: depth of the edge class, and the depiction of one
• 3:10:39
  Speaker 8: was the strength of the of the draft. And that
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 8: means that in the third round at this point, there
• 3:10:44
  Speaker 8: are still players that people are really excited about as
• 3:10:47
  Speaker 8: prospects and are really high on them as prospects. Again,
• 3:10:50
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying that they're going to be stars, but
• 3:10:52
  Speaker 8: like Kyle Canarden in South Carolina last year had a
• 3:10:55
  Speaker 8: huge season in the SEC. Like he's a good pass rusher,
• 3:10:58
  Speaker 8: he's a good player.
• 3:11:00
  Speaker 4: That was in practice.
• 3:11:01
  Speaker 8: I wasn't gonna go there. But that's that. This is
• 3:11:05
  Speaker 8: exactly what I was hoping that they were gonna do,
• 3:11:08
  Speaker 8: was they were going to target some of the positions
• 3:11:09
  Speaker 8: that were thinner at the top of the draft. And
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 8: now just let the edge guys fall to you, right,
• 3:11:14
  Speaker 8: Let the guys at eighty five and one oh six
• 3:11:16
  Speaker 8: fall to you that have some upside and have some
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 8: tools and have some ability, and give them to Terrell
• 3:11:21
  Speaker 8: Williams and Mike Rabel and let them develop them and
• 3:11:23
  Speaker 8: see what happens.
• 3:11:24
  Speaker 4: Dan and Boston says, tell Paul to get off his
• 3:11:26
  Speaker 4: high horse with his crimson, Chris Sims. Take Paul's the
• 3:11:29
  Speaker 4: guy who's most dismissive of other people's opinions, but in
• 3:11:32
  Speaker 4: this case he's on Chris sims side because he's so
• 3:11:34
  Speaker 4: enlightened and everyone else is stupid.
• 3:11:36
  Speaker 5: Chris Sims loves Kyle Williams, so you hate him.
• 3:11:38
  Speaker 4: The only reason I hate him on that because he
• 3:11:40
  Speaker 4: likes to be the contrarian. Good job, Paul, you went.
• 3:11:43
  Speaker 8: So Jalen Knowle is going to the Texas Shy.
• 3:11:47
  Speaker 1: I like that for them.
• 3:11:48
  Speaker 5: Take you a little binkie and go home.
• 3:11:49
  Speaker 1: But again, isn't it funny do you feel like Nickosaria
• 3:11:51
  Speaker 1: had a heel turner and he was like, I don't know,
• 3:11:53
  Speaker 1: we got draft wide receivers, like we.
• 3:11:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well they drafted both Iowa state wide receivers.
• 3:11:57
  Speaker 5: I actually don't love this because I like, they just
• 3:12:00
  Speaker 5: signed Christian Kirk. He's Christian Kirk.
• 3:12:02
  Speaker 4: That's true, Jalen Noel.
• 3:12:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't even put Christian Kirk on the ground.
• 3:12:07
  Speaker 5: Look, he just got bumped off the graphic.
• 3:12:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well he got Christian. Christian Kirk's kind of running
• 3:12:12
  Speaker 8: out of steam at Christian Kirk's best football is behind him, probably.
• 3:12:15
  Speaker 1: And Tanked Eli probably out for the year.
• 3:12:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Tanked's probably out for the year. And maybe you
• 3:12:21
  Speaker 8: don't know long term at all what's going to happen.
• 3:12:23
  Speaker 5: And just to clarify the whole Chris Sims thing, I
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 5: disagree with him. I think that Mike Rabel thinks that
• 3:12:30
  Speaker 5: he can play tackle. I just don't dismiss people's opinions
• 3:12:33
  Speaker 5: that are different than mine, that's all. You don't I don't.
• 3:12:37
  Speaker 5: I don't agree with them, and I'm not afraid to
• 3:12:39
  Speaker 5: tell you that I don't.
• 3:12:40
  Speaker 4: Agree with Oh that's okay, then that dismissing it.
• 3:12:42
  Speaker 5: No, no No, doesn't because I'm not telling you I'm right.
• 3:12:45
  Speaker 5: I thought Vernon Golston was like a unbelievable people Chris Sims.
• 3:12:50
  Speaker 4: Are they dismissing him or not agreeing with no?
• 3:12:52
  Speaker 5: Like I got so mad I had to turn it off?
• 3:12:55
  Speaker 5: Why because he said something I didn't agree right?
• 3:12:58
  Speaker 4: Well, why would you get mad and turn it off
• 3:12:59
  Speaker 4: if you agree with him? Of course he disagreed with.
• 3:13:01
  Speaker 5: Him, But you're turning it off like you're not going
• 3:13:04
  Speaker 5: to get Why Why wouldn't you turn it off if
• 3:13:05
  Speaker 5: you disagree with him? That Kyle Williams is a really
• 3:13:07
  Speaker 5: good prospect because he's he's saying something good about your guy.
• 3:13:12
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's that's what that's that's my only point.
• 3:13:15
  Speaker 4: With the guy. Why are you getting mad?
• 3:13:16
  Speaker 5: But what if you disagree with him? But it's but
• 3:13:18
  Speaker 5: it's positive for your t if you're not going to
• 3:13:21
  Speaker 5: get mad about it. Oh well, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe
• 3:13:23
  Speaker 5: Kyle Williams really is good. I didn't like him, but
• 3:13:25
  Speaker 5: Chris Sen's likes him and the Patriots picked him.
• 3:13:27
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I see what you're saying.
• 3:13:29
  Speaker 5: That's you know, that's how you form your opinions.
• 3:13:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, you people, you guys have somebody who's on first.
• 3:13:34
  Speaker 1: That's how your opinion.
• 3:13:38
  Speaker 8: You know, you know that it's ten to fifteen on
• 3:13:42
  Speaker 8: day two because we're getting.
• 3:13:43
  Speaker 5: It's not it's not that's what. That's how you people
• 3:13:46
  Speaker 5: your opinions. They said something beautiful the guy we drafted.
• 3:13:50
  Speaker 4: Are they good player? Are they Jets having a good draft?
• 3:13:54
  Speaker 1: Haven't all right draft?
• 3:13:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 3:13:55
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 3:13:55
  Speaker 5: But I think Houston is having a memb draft. But
• 3:13:58
  Speaker 5: I think the Patriots have a Jets I think you
• 3:14:00
  Speaker 5: said Houston.
• 3:14:00
  Speaker 4: I said the Jets down.
• 3:14:02
  Speaker 5: They got Membo, Membo and Mason Mason.
• 3:14:06
  Speaker 8: Taylor, Taylor and as acause Kentucky Pos helped me cope
• 3:14:10
  Speaker 8: with this Jets draft feels like it's wicked good.
• 3:14:12
  Speaker 4: I'm worried. Break it down for me, please, Really it's wicked, wicked.
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 5: It's a good draft.
• 3:14:18
  Speaker 8: But if Justin Fields can play, they'll be they'll be Yeah, no,
• 3:14:22
  Speaker 8: they they've they've picked good players. I mean, we'll see.
• 3:14:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't like it doesn't bother me.
• 3:14:28
  Speaker 7: Like sometimes when I feel like the Ravens do it
• 3:14:30
  Speaker 7: all the time, Ravens draft a bunch of my guys,
• 3:14:32
  Speaker 7: it bothers me.
• 3:14:33
  Speaker 5: If Justin Fields can't play, it won't matter.
• 3:14:35
  Speaker 1: Right, that's I mean. And if he makeson Taylor great
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 1: great stats hasn't really ever lived up to.
• 3:14:40
  Speaker 5: What he But this is Fred's theory on defense. I
• 3:14:43
  Speaker 5: think the Jets have the pieces to have a good defense.
• 3:14:45
  Speaker 5: They seem like they're always flaming out and playing terrible
• 3:14:48
  Speaker 5: defense by the middle of the year because they never
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 5: get any support from their offense. If Justin Fields can
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 5: play with Bryce Hall and Garrett Wilson and now Mason Taylor,
• 3:14:57
  Speaker 5: and you know, they've got a few pieces in place,
• 3:15:01
  Speaker 5: maybe they can be Okay, Dylan Fair, they have a
• 3:15:04
  Speaker 5: good offensive line interior.
• 3:15:07
  Speaker 4: Rio's in Texas. What's up?
• 3:15:08
  Speaker 5: Rio?
• 3:15:11
  Speaker 16: And good evening, gentlemen.
• 3:15:12
  Speaker 4: How you doing good?
• 3:15:14
  Speaker 10: Great?
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 16: I just kind of want to take a little bit
• 3:15:17
  Speaker 16: of a victory lap and offer a bit of constructive
• 3:15:21
  Speaker 16: criticism for Evan Okay, on the victory lap. First time
• 3:15:25
  Speaker 16: I called in to catch twenty two is to discuss
• 3:15:29
  Speaker 16: Kyle Williams absolutely loved that pick. I'm gonna declare here
• 3:15:32
  Speaker 16: now they broke the wide receiver curse. This guy is
• 3:15:35
  Speaker 16: gonna play. It's gonna be good. Okay, I know barth Is,
• 3:15:40
  Speaker 16: you know on Cloud nine, Ron.
• 3:15:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not mad at you because I agree with you.
• 3:15:45
  Speaker 5: You and Dave in the.
• 3:15:45
  Speaker 16: Philippines, right, well, I would hope not. But on that topic,
• 3:15:51
  Speaker 16: that was my criticism for Evan. And again I have zero,
• 3:15:56
  Speaker 16: zero problem with Evan's steaks. I think he's really good
• 3:15:59
  Speaker 16: at what he does, but he does tend to come
• 3:16:02
  Speaker 16: across a little bit dismissive when somebody brings up something
• 3:16:05
  Speaker 16: that he's not on board with.
• 3:16:08
  Speaker 5: I called you that's why he got mad at the take.
• 3:16:13
  Speaker 16: That because Chris Sims is a douche.
• 3:16:17
  Speaker 10: I hate there.
• 3:16:18
  Speaker 4: You go.
• 3:16:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I don't agree with other people.
• 3:16:21
  Speaker 5: I do like all the Texas guys that het Chris
• 3:16:23
  Speaker 5: Sims because which what do they hold against it? What
• 3:16:26
  Speaker 5: did he? And he was entitled, yeah, I get it.
• 3:16:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 3:16:33
  Speaker 23: No.
• 3:16:34
  Speaker 16: Aside from that, though, I called you guys last night
• 3:16:36
  Speaker 16: and I listed off some players as my top players
• 3:16:38
  Speaker 16: at the top a round two Carson Schweesinger that you
• 3:16:43
  Speaker 16: guys didn't actually say anything about. He went at the top.
• 3:16:47
  Speaker 16: Dan Higgins was my favorite X in this draft. Kyle
• 3:16:50
  Speaker 16: Williams is my favorite receiver, but specifically for the X,
• 3:16:53
  Speaker 16: I like Higgins. But then I brought up Nick em
• 3:16:57
  Speaker 16: and Morey and Evan looked like, you know, somebody shot.
• 3:17:00
  Speaker 8: His dog and don't talk about my dog, not well.
• 3:17:06
  Speaker 16: Your imaginary dog. And you know that was Yeah, that
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 16: was That was the sort of thing where you know,
• 3:17:12
  Speaker 16: I think for about the third or fourth time you said,
• 3:17:13
  Speaker 16: well I'm not picking on Rio, well a little bit
• 3:17:15
  Speaker 16: you were. So I'll take that big by leap when
• 3:17:18
  Speaker 16: he's making you know, splash play after splash play in Seattle, okay,
• 3:17:22
  Speaker 16: but to to kind of take off, take way off
• 3:17:27
  Speaker 16: of that, I still think I'll agree with Deuce that one.
• 3:17:31
  Speaker 16: They need an edge like that's They've got some temporary
• 3:17:36
  Speaker 16: pieces there now, but they need somebody long term to develop.
• 3:17:39
  Speaker 16: But I think there's another position where that's really true.
• 3:17:42
  Speaker 16: And I've brought it up a bunch of times and
• 3:17:44
  Speaker 16: I haven't really seen anybody addressing in. It's a safety position.
• 3:17:48
  Speaker 16: To me, they've got two box safeties. And I think
• 3:17:51
  Speaker 16: Douger is done, Like I just don't think he's coming
• 3:17:53
  Speaker 16: back from that injury. I think his brain's broken, honestly,
• 3:17:57
  Speaker 16: the way I saw him play last year. What do
• 3:17:59
  Speaker 16: you guys think of Xavier Watts?
• 3:18:01
  Speaker 10: I have never dame.
• 3:18:02
  Speaker 16: I think you know, he's poor opposite of them and
• 3:18:05
  Speaker 16: Worry But you know, I think he's the kind of
• 3:18:06
  Speaker 16: guy that might have feeled a rabel.
• 3:18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we just talked about him a little bit.
• 3:18:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, thanks for real and honestly real. We we
• 3:18:13
  Speaker 8: actually agree on more players than you think. We like
• 3:18:16
  Speaker 8: a lot of the same players, just not not Am
• 3:18:18
  Speaker 8: and Worry who I've argued with this one about too,
• 3:18:21
  Speaker 8: So it's not like this one.
• 3:18:23
  Speaker 5: This one so I hate I can't listen to him
• 3:18:26
  Speaker 5: anymore because he he disagrees with me.
• 3:18:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's okay. I agree with the caller. He's
• 3:18:30
  Speaker 8: one hundred percent right. Like if we have a disagreement
• 3:18:33
  Speaker 8: on a player, I'm not going to agree with you,
• 3:18:35
  Speaker 8: like I'm going to disagree. I'm gonna stick to my guns.
• 3:18:38
  Speaker 8: I don't think he's a good I didn't like him,
• 3:18:41
  Speaker 8: didn't didn't like the tape. What can I say?
• 3:18:43
  Speaker 5: I don't need to take it, and I don't need
• 3:18:45
  Speaker 5: you to take a victory lap either, if you're right, Well,
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 5: if anybody should take a victory lap on Kyle Williams,
• 3:18:50
  Speaker 5: it's Bart.
• 3:18:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, Bart told me about Kyle Williams a year ago.
• 3:18:53
  Speaker 8: So like, if anybody's going to take a victory lap
• 3:18:55
  Speaker 8: on him.
• 3:18:55
  Speaker 5: It's real.
• 3:18:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it.
• 3:18:57
  Speaker 4: Willson, k cod Hey, will Hey, how are you?
• 3:19:03
  Speaker 9: I know it's been a long night. Thank you for
• 3:19:05
  Speaker 9: the hard work.
• 3:19:07
  Speaker 32: First of all, you know, I'm very happy with the
• 3:19:11
  Speaker 32: Kyle Williams pick. I'm still con get some speed and
• 3:19:13
  Speaker 32: I like Henderson too. For sake of argument, with Dylan
• 3:19:16
  Speaker 32: Sampson still being on the board, would you have preferred
• 3:19:19
  Speaker 32: getting Burdened and Sampson? I mean, I might have, but
• 3:19:22
  Speaker 32: I'm fine with this as well.
• 3:19:23
  Speaker 13: And I was wondering if you got songs.
• 3:19:25
  Speaker 32: That Steve Smith Senior compared Kyle Williamston himself. I thought
• 3:19:28
  Speaker 32: that was pretty high praise. And I still like a
• 3:19:32
  Speaker 32: lot of players that are available. I know Paul was
• 3:19:34
  Speaker 32: a little you know, he didn't.
• 3:19:36
  Speaker 24: Really like the edges that are still there.
• 3:19:38
  Speaker 32: But I like Jasiah Stewart, I like Mila mc guard
• 3:19:41
  Speaker 32: I think that's some good players to get here at
• 3:19:43
  Speaker 32: eighty five.
• 3:19:44
  Speaker 5: Okay, you guys to get the other line.
• 3:19:47
  Speaker 8: Winston, yeah, Winston, Yeah, he's a he was a fun study.
• 3:19:52
  Speaker 8: He's got hurt, but he was gonna be a higher pick.
• 3:19:56
  Speaker 8: I think if he didn't get hurt, but he.
• 3:19:58
  Speaker 1: Had that Jalen Walker presence vibes. Just this guy's a dude, and.
• 3:20:02
  Speaker 8: He's super athletic too, and just really fluid, loose mover
• 3:20:09
  Speaker 8: in space. Like I really liked what I saw out
• 3:20:11
  Speaker 8: of him if he didn't get hurt. But he played
• 3:20:14
  Speaker 8: like three games last year and then then got hurt.
• 3:20:16
  Speaker 8: So who is the player? He said, I'm sorry, I
• 3:20:21
  Speaker 8: totally forgot.
• 3:20:22
  Speaker 5: And there's still going to be more good players taken.
• 3:20:25
  Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, like just just just to stay like,
• 3:20:30
  Speaker 5: there will be guys taken, you know, in the next
• 3:20:33
  Speaker 5: one hundred picks that will be good players in the NFL.
• 3:20:35
  Speaker 8: Are you sure?
• 3:20:37
  Speaker 5: I am pretty sure.
• 3:20:37
  Speaker 4: Show from the Darkness. The way everyone talks about Kyle
• 3:20:40
  Speaker 4: Williams sounds like a first round pick. What's the catch?
• 3:20:43
  Speaker 4: Why is he a third round guy?
• 3:20:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so's older player. He's twenty three, you know, six
• 3:20:49
  Speaker 8: year player in college, so that that definitely hurt him.
• 3:20:54
  Speaker 8: He is not the biggest guy. I would agree with
• 3:20:56
  Speaker 8: that as well. You know, probably not going to be
• 3:20:58
  Speaker 8: a full time X or outside receivers, probably more of
• 3:21:02
  Speaker 8: a zero move receiver at the next level. I would
• 3:21:06
  Speaker 8: say age position, you know, flex would probably be the
• 3:21:09
  Speaker 8: two biggest.
• 3:21:09
  Speaker 1: Things, no special teams something, Yeah in the beast.
• 3:21:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there was like he's a great separator. I wouldn't
• 3:21:16
  Speaker 8: say he's a great route runner, Like he's not a technician.
• 3:21:19
  Speaker 8: He's just got great burst and suddenness and separation ability.
• 3:21:23
  Speaker 8: So there were some drifting on some of his routes
• 3:21:25
  Speaker 8: I saw on tape, especially you know, coming across the
• 3:21:28
  Speaker 8: middle of the field, Like things will have to clean
• 3:21:29
  Speaker 8: up in terms of his route running. But he's got
• 3:21:32
  Speaker 8: great natural separation skills to him. So I'd rather do
• 3:21:36
  Speaker 8: that I have to fix that, then have to fix
• 3:21:39
  Speaker 8: well he's running a four five five, you know, so.
• 3:21:41
  Speaker 4: Kendall in San Diego, Stefan Diggs, Kyle Williams on the outside,
• 3:21:46
  Speaker 4: the Mario Douglas in the slot. How's the offense looking now?
• 3:21:51
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 3:21:52
  Speaker 8: Feel much better about it?
• 3:21:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 3:21:54
  Speaker 8: I mean I think it comes back to the thing
• 3:21:56
  Speaker 8: that Paul keeps saying, like, at this point, you have enough,
• 3:21:59
  Speaker 8: you have enough, you know, toys to play with, but
• 3:22:02
  Speaker 8: it's that next step for Drake May. Like, if Drake
• 3:22:05
  Speaker 8: May takes the next step with the pieces that they've added,
• 3:22:08
  Speaker 8: then they should be marketably better.
• 3:22:10
  Speaker 1: That's connected.
• 3:22:11
  Speaker 5: That's a Patriots running I mean, that's a Pittsburgh running
• 3:22:13
  Speaker 5: back Johnson.
• 3:22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's squaring Iowa in colors. But shoot, I
• 3:22:18
  Speaker 1: just forgot what I was going to say.
• 3:22:21
  Speaker 5: It's my fault.
• 3:22:21
  Speaker 1: What did you say, Evan, What were you talking about?
• 3:22:23
  Speaker 8: I said, toys to Drake May?
• 3:22:25
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, I said.
• 3:22:26
  Speaker 7: It goes back to I think, which is Paul said
• 3:22:27
  Speaker 7: about the Jets, like, if Justin Fields can play, that'll
• 3:22:29
  Speaker 7: be pretty good. If Drake May takes a step this year,
• 3:22:32
  Speaker 7: cuts down on the turnovers in clutch time, he's making
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 7: plays to win games, then they're going to be good.
• 3:22:38
  Speaker 4: Uh, Anthony Seattle, I'm watching you guys on TV following
• 3:22:41
  Speaker 4: along Anyway, I just want to say how pumped I
• 3:22:43
  Speaker 4: am that we're addressing needs with name brand players. No
• 3:22:47
  Speaker 4: head scratchers, no trying to be smarter than everyone else.
• 3:22:50
  Speaker 4: Thirteen points per game, can't protect that quarterback. We went
• 3:22:53
  Speaker 4: protection explosion, explosion. It's officially a new regime.
• 3:22:58
  Speaker 8: So Patriots traded down again, yep, So we're never getting
• 3:23:03
  Speaker 8: off the air. It seems like they're still in the
• 3:23:05
  Speaker 8: third round though, based off of that, but Kansas City
• 3:23:08
  Speaker 8: is now on the clock at eighty five. They have
• 3:23:10
  Speaker 8: made a trade with the Patriots, and the Patriots have
• 3:23:12
  Speaker 8: traded down. I'm wait there though, I'm trying to figure out.
• 3:23:17
  Speaker 4: And filled in yet.
• 3:23:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's.
• 3:23:22
  Speaker 8: Rights wherever the Chiefs were in the third round very five.
• 3:23:26
  Speaker 5: I mean I think that that's.
• 3:23:27
  Speaker 33: Where they are, but I'm positive we are at ninety five.
• 3:23:30
  Speaker 33: Now ninety five it is okay, Well we're doing a marathon.
• 3:23:34
  Speaker 33: And they bucks took Jacob Parrish as a player. I
• 3:23:36
  Speaker 33: really liked to play the nickel for the Patriots, So
• 3:23:40
  Speaker 33: good pick by Tampa. The Guka picked by Tampa was
• 3:23:44
  Speaker 33: kind of weird to me, like they they just paid
• 3:23:47
  Speaker 33: Chris Godwin and now they have redundant Chris Godwin because.
• 3:23:51
  Speaker 5: I really like Jalen McMillan. Yeah, they had two older receivers,
• 3:23:55
  Speaker 5: a good young receiver, they get a good time, you know,
• 3:23:57
  Speaker 5: decent tight end, yeah, Kate Auton.
• 3:23:59
  Speaker 8: So I actually really like this trade of the Patriots
• 3:24:02
  Speaker 8: just made. Uh they actually added a pick in twenty
• 3:24:05
  Speaker 8: twenty six.
• 3:24:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, what do we got?
• 3:24:07
  Speaker 8: So the Patriots have moved back ten spots to ninety
• 3:24:10
  Speaker 8: five overall and added a twenty twenty six fourth round
• 3:24:14
  Speaker 8: pick from Kansas City. So they added a fourth round
• 3:24:17
  Speaker 8: pick next year to this trade, so I actually kind
• 3:24:21
  Speaker 8: of like.
• 3:24:21
  Speaker 4: That fourth So it was it was that a third
• 3:24:24
  Speaker 4: this year paul or pickswap and then they got a
• 3:24:26
  Speaker 4: fourth round I believe. So. Yes, so they got nothing
• 3:24:30
  Speaker 4: extra this year for it.
• 3:24:31
  Speaker 8: They did not. They got a twenty twenty foururth round pick,
• 3:24:34
  Speaker 8: so they probably would have gotten a.
• 3:24:35
  Speaker 5: They probably would have been a third round pick next year.
• 3:24:38
  Speaker 8: Well, they would have gotten a fifth round pick this year.
• 3:24:40
  Speaker 8: So they got a fourth round pick next year. Oh wow,
• 3:24:43
  Speaker 8: so they actually that's actually pretty good value. What do
• 3:24:45
  Speaker 8: you think about it?
• 3:24:46
  Speaker 5: I guess Yeah, Evans having a good weekend selling me
• 3:24:51
  Speaker 5: on stuff, and I'm really tired, so I'm just gonna
• 3:24:54
  Speaker 5: go with this.
• 3:24:54
  Speaker 8: But the pick in the year ahead, Yeah, usually.
• 3:24:59
  Speaker 5: You get an extra round the other way. Yeah, didn't
• 3:25:03
  Speaker 5: it go the other way?
• 3:25:04
  Speaker 4: He's saying. He's saying, to drop.
• 3:25:06
  Speaker 5: Down ten spots, it would have caught you a fifth
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 5: round pick, is what you're saying. So instead of that,
• 3:25:10
  Speaker 5: they got a fourth thron pick next year. That's what
• 3:25:12
  Speaker 5: I said. He's doing a good job selling me and stuff. Okay,
• 3:25:16
  Speaker 5: I gave him credit. You explained it to me in
• 3:25:17
  Speaker 5: like fifteen seconds.
• 3:25:19
  Speaker 1: See now I'm too tired to do these things.
• 3:25:22
  Speaker 4: Let's go to Florida. Daves there, what's up, Dave?
• 3:25:26
  Speaker 24: Hey, guys, what's it going?
• 3:25:27
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 3:25:29
  Speaker 9: I got a question.
• 3:25:30
  Speaker 24: Am I living in the twilight zone? Because this might
• 3:25:32
  Speaker 24: be the happiest draft Patriots Unfiltered I've ever tuned into.
• 3:25:36
  Speaker 24: And I'm actually happy myself. This is very streme feeling
• 3:25:40
  Speaker 24: for the last five.
• 3:25:41
  Speaker 5: This is an old school Belichick draft for me. I
• 3:25:44
  Speaker 5: haven't been happy like this since like the heyday.
• 3:25:46
  Speaker 4: Of Fat lost his weight and he lost all his anger.
• 3:25:48
  Speaker 5: So I haven't lost the anger. But I like this draft.
• 3:25:52
  Speaker 5: I like this draft a lot.
• 3:25:54
  Speaker 24: I mean when you also add real quick yeah, I
• 3:25:57
  Speaker 24: got to disagree with Mike real quick on. I feel
• 3:26:00
  Speaker 24: the field to play as well for the Jets. The
• 3:26:01
  Speaker 24: Jets will be good, Fred, You'll be with me and
• 3:26:03
  Speaker 24: Jets will never be good.
• 3:26:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, take it off here, fair enough.
• 3:26:06
  Speaker 1: I'll take that, right.
• 3:26:07
  Speaker 4: There's always something with them, that's right.
• 3:26:09
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 3:26:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think when you pair this draft up
• 3:26:12
  Speaker 4: with the addition of Mike Rabel, Josh McDaniels is back,
• 3:26:18
  Speaker 4: all you know, new coaching staff. What they did in
• 3:26:22
  Speaker 4: free agency, and now you know three people that on
• 3:26:28
  Speaker 4: paper are going to help this offense. I think there's
• 3:26:30
  Speaker 4: a lot to be excited about.
• 3:26:32
  Speaker 7: I do two unfortunately, I don't know, but you can't
• 3:26:35
  Speaker 7: be you know, no, no, but that's I mean, but
• 3:26:38
  Speaker 7: those are long term needs, and you know, at this
• 3:26:40
  Speaker 7: point you're just trying to say, like what makes sense
• 3:26:42
  Speaker 7: to grab and that, you know, so it's not like,
• 3:26:44
  Speaker 7: oh my god, the season hinges on if they get
• 3:26:46
  Speaker 7: a third round defensive end. But I just say, I'm
• 3:26:48
  Speaker 7: gonna give Paul a little credit right now, because I
• 3:26:50
  Speaker 7: think last.
• 3:26:51
  Speaker 8: Year I had a credit going around, yeah studying, Uh
• 3:26:54
  Speaker 8: you know last.
• 3:26:55
  Speaker 1: Year, I mean, he was right.
• 3:26:56
  Speaker 7: They didn't really change the team, like the team that
• 3:26:58
  Speaker 7: came back three twenty four essentially the same team.
• 3:27:02
  Speaker 5: And it's two things from last year.
• 3:27:04
  Speaker 7: And now I understand a little bit to some extent,
• 3:27:07
  Speaker 7: which I think Paul would probably agree with, that you know,
• 3:27:09
  Speaker 7: they had to keep some of those guys, like it
• 3:27:10
  Speaker 7: makes sense to some of them, probably.
• 3:27:12
  Speaker 5: Not Henry, Like I wasn't opposed to bringing any of
• 3:27:17
  Speaker 5: them back, and then they just brought.
• 3:27:18
  Speaker 1: All of them back, right, And so you know, they
• 3:27:20
  Speaker 1: didn't really do that this year.
• 3:27:22
  Speaker 7: They've changed the team, they've added some new elements, they've
• 3:27:24
  Speaker 7: added some things that we don't know how it's gonna
• 3:27:27
  Speaker 7: work out in a good way.
• 3:27:28
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like you have some options.
• 3:27:30
  Speaker 8: It's not like.
• 3:27:31
  Speaker 7: Jesus God, please Kendrick Bourne come back and be healthy.
• 3:27:34
  Speaker 7: Last year, you know, like that, you were so reliant
• 3:27:36
  Speaker 7: on that, and now it's all right, Well, maybe it
• 3:27:39
  Speaker 7: all clicks for Javon Baker. Maybe not, but then maybe
• 3:27:41
  Speaker 7: Kyle Williams, maybe he pops up.
• 3:27:43
  Speaker 5: Instead of going into a season having to rely on
• 3:27:45
  Speaker 5: one of those things happening, well, no, I'm probably gonna
• 3:27:48
  Speaker 5: rely on having Stefan Diggs and Kyle Williams to go
• 3:27:53
  Speaker 5: with the Mario Douglas as opposed to Javon Baker and
• 3:27:56
  Speaker 5: Jalen Polk getting it. If they get it, great now
• 3:28:00
  Speaker 5: I have a really strong wide receiver room.
• 3:28:02
  Speaker 1: But all the pressures on them to do it and
• 3:28:04
  Speaker 1: to prove.
• 3:28:04
  Speaker 5: It and if not, they're going to go.
• 3:28:07
  Speaker 4: And you know, Rabel said when he first got here,
• 3:28:09
  Speaker 4: this team's gonna look really different in August, and we're like, okay,
• 3:28:14
  Speaker 4: let's see and it.
• 3:28:15
  Speaker 7: It will it will I mean, I mean, you guys
• 3:28:18
  Speaker 7: are writing me and going back to you know, teasing
• 3:28:20
  Speaker 7: me about the defense, like you're right, Like I mean
• 3:28:21
  Speaker 7: they the defensive front.
• 3:28:22
  Speaker 1: The front is going to be completely different.
• 3:28:24
  Speaker 5: And it's not done here. That's why I keep saying,
• 3:28:27
  Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna be like upset, and you know, say,
• 3:28:31
  Speaker 5: forget about what I said about how good the draft is.
• 3:28:33
  Speaker 5: If they start taking some defensive players. They need help
• 3:28:36
  Speaker 5: there too. I just don't expect to fill all the holes.
• 3:28:40
  Speaker 5: I think that they've only won eight games the last
• 3:28:42
  Speaker 5: two years, and I think they have significant ground to
• 3:28:46
  Speaker 5: make up. I think they've done a good job of
• 3:28:49
  Speaker 5: starting to make up some of that ground. I don't
• 3:28:51
  Speaker 5: think it's gonna be magic that they're gonna win ten
• 3:28:53
  Speaker 5: games this year what like this, Like they have a coach,
• 3:28:58
  Speaker 5: so all of a sudden, you know, you're not going
• 3:29:00
  Speaker 5: to lose all these games. You probably are, but you're
• 3:29:04
  Speaker 5: going to be much more poised to compete with the
• 3:29:12
  Speaker 5: Milton Williams. You're going to see Houghton Davis, you know,
• 3:29:15
  Speaker 5: and Roberts Spelaane's of the world as opposed to just
• 3:29:18
  Speaker 5: running it back with you know, all the same cast
• 3:29:22
  Speaker 5: of characters.
• 3:29:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then having really no depth once injuries struck
• 3:29:25
  Speaker 7: the defense. I mean, I think that's what exposed them.
• 3:29:28
  Speaker 5: Those are things you can and by the way, right
• 3:29:30
  Speaker 5: now that's going to be an issue too because you've
• 3:29:32
  Speaker 5: you've replaced players, but again when those players inevitably start
• 3:29:36
  Speaker 5: to get banged up, you have to stack these kinds
• 3:29:40
  Speaker 5: of classes.
• 3:29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I mean, I just to get depth. Yeah,
• 3:29:43
  Speaker 1: I mean the easiest way I say it right now
• 3:29:45
  Speaker 1: is you have splane.
• 3:29:46
  Speaker 7: But you also you know, went and got what's his name,
• 3:29:49
  Speaker 7: Jack Gibbons as well, like another similar company. You know,
• 3:29:52
  Speaker 7: you're building some depth, You're building in some options, and
• 3:29:54
  Speaker 7: I think they've you can see like what direction they're going,
• 3:29:57
  Speaker 7: They've got a style they they have.
• 3:29:59
  Speaker 1: It's just I mean, I.
• 3:30:00
  Speaker 7: Don't want to I don't want to crap on last year,
• 3:30:02
  Speaker 7: but just this year, you really feel a sense of
• 3:30:05
  Speaker 7: they lost their.
• 3:30:05
  Speaker 4: North star last well, he's not here anymore.
• 3:30:10
  Speaker 8: I just liked the process of what this this offseason has.
• 3:30:14
  Speaker 8: The way that they've got about the offseason, I think
• 3:30:17
  Speaker 8: it's been you know, they've targeted players that fit the
• 3:30:21
  Speaker 8: style of play that they want to play, and they've
• 3:30:24
  Speaker 8: targeted guys that were at the top of the market
• 3:30:27
  Speaker 8: in free agency and they were able to actually actually
• 3:30:29
  Speaker 8: able to sign some of those players and convince some
• 3:30:31
  Speaker 8: of those guys to come to New England and be Patriots.
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 8: And then here in the draft, I just think that
• 3:30:37
  Speaker 8: they've they've played the value pretty well and all we
• 3:30:40
  Speaker 8: can grate them on right now is the process. Like
• 3:30:43
  Speaker 8: we'll see what happens with all these picks, you know,
• 3:30:46
  Speaker 8: over the course of the next two to three years.
• 3:30:48
  Speaker 8: But I said it earlier, like I feel like Kyle Williams,
• 3:30:52
  Speaker 8: in other years, they would have picked them at thirty eight,
• 3:30:54
  Speaker 8: like they would have reached on Kyle Williams, and they
• 3:30:56
  Speaker 8: would pick them around earlier than they had to, you know,
• 3:30:59
  Speaker 8: Jalen polk taikwon Thornton like they would have reached on
• 3:31:02
  Speaker 8: the player. And this year they they've been they've been
• 3:31:05
  Speaker 8: good at sticking true to the board. You know, Henderson
• 3:31:07
  Speaker 8: was the best player available for most people at thirty eight,
• 3:31:11
  Speaker 8: and they took the best player available at thirty eight.
• 3:31:13
  Speaker 4: So they've traded down twice. Now, are in all fairness,
• 3:31:18
  Speaker 4: are there players that they passed up during this trade
• 3:31:22
  Speaker 4: down period that you're like, I wish they had taken.
• 3:31:24
  Speaker 8: They look I mean, so let's see.
• 3:31:30
  Speaker 7: Seventy seven Birch Noel yea, I already got a guy.
• 3:31:33
  Speaker 7: Winston probably wasn't really a fit, yeah, I mean not really.
• 3:31:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was really princely Birch. Noel Waley, Fairchild, Kevin Winston,
• 3:31:43
  Speaker 8: Caleb Johnson, Jacob Parrish, Noel Williams, and Jamari Caldwell have
• 3:31:47
  Speaker 8: gone so far in this this stretch of picks from
• 3:31:49
  Speaker 8: seventy seven to eighty five. Uh, Jacob Parrish was a
• 3:31:52
  Speaker 8: player I really liked. And they were sitting there at
• 3:31:56
  Speaker 8: eighty five and he went eighty four, and then they
• 3:31:59
  Speaker 8: traded out of eighty five. So if you wanna maybe,
• 3:32:02
  Speaker 8: if you want to kind of sit here and play
• 3:32:05
  Speaker 8: that side of the fence, you know, was Jacob Parrish
• 3:32:07
  Speaker 8: their guy, And when he got taken by Tampa Bay,
• 3:32:10
  Speaker 8: they traded out again. Yeah, I think that that could
• 3:32:13
  Speaker 8: be possible. He's a slot corner man, coverage corner. I
• 3:32:17
  Speaker 8: compared him to Jonathan Jones. I think he can play
• 3:32:20
  Speaker 8: a similar style. Play like that would have been a
• 3:32:22
  Speaker 8: nice like complete secondary at that point with Gonzo and
• 3:32:26
  Speaker 8: Carlton Davis on the outside and Jacob Parrish playing the nickel.
• 3:32:29
  Speaker 8: So maybe they they wanted Perish and he went there.
• 3:32:34
  Speaker 8: You know that pick, So that would be the one
• 3:32:37
  Speaker 8: guy that I would look at in nat cluster and say,
• 3:32:40
  Speaker 8: if there's anyone that I thought that they might actually
• 3:32:43
  Speaker 8: draft coming in, it was probably Parish. And it does
• 3:32:48
  Speaker 8: make sense, you know that they picked him the pick before.
• 3:32:51
  Speaker 4: Adam and Louisiana. I emailed him to PU earlier this
• 3:32:54
  Speaker 4: year about how I thought the Giants had to take
• 3:32:56
  Speaker 4: Sanders to three overall to save their jobs. On reflection,
• 3:33:00
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of coping going on in that
• 3:33:02
  Speaker 4: line of thought. He might not go in the first
• 3:33:04
  Speaker 4: three rounds much less the first three picks. Love the
• 3:33:07
  Speaker 4: draft coverage and this slow decent descent into insanity on
• 3:33:12
  Speaker 4: the air.
• 3:33:14
  Speaker 1: We'll get there.
• 3:33:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna un out of a runway to trade
• 3:33:17
  Speaker 7: down though. So but we're gonna get an interview too,
• 3:33:20
  Speaker 7: aren't we. Uh, after the conclusion that yeah.
• 3:33:22
  Speaker 4: Do we have something ready? Yeah, let's uh, let's looking.
• 3:33:28
  Speaker 5: After we make the pick, we have that interview?
• 3:33:30
  Speaker 4: Well we have Yeah, we're gonna have Ryan Cowden after
• 3:33:32
  Speaker 4: our last pick on this show. That's kind of a
• 3:33:35
  Speaker 4: reason why we have to stay in the air. But
• 3:33:37
  Speaker 4: also do we have. We don't have Kyle Williams yet.
• 3:33:40
  Speaker 4: I could get it ready, Okay, yeah, that'd be nice.
• 3:33:43
  Speaker 8: So Saveon Williams just went to the Packers just to
• 3:33:45
  Speaker 8: fill to fill a buster here for a second. So
• 3:33:48
  Speaker 8: the Packers took Matthew Golden in the first round and
• 3:33:51
  Speaker 8: then they took save On Williams here in the third round.
• 3:33:54
  Speaker 8: So clearly the Packers thought they had to completely rebuild
• 3:33:56
  Speaker 8: their wide receiver room because they just double dipped a
• 3:33:59
  Speaker 8: wide receiver. Save you On Williams a really fun player. Uh,
• 3:34:02
  Speaker 8: kind of like a Corderio Patterson type of player where
• 3:34:05
  Speaker 8: you know, scheme touch guy and big, fast, explosive receiver.
• 3:34:09
  Speaker 8: Probably needs to be like schemed, open and helped and
• 3:34:12
  Speaker 8: things like that. He's not a pure receiver, but he's
• 3:34:15
  Speaker 8: a fun player and with the floor and his creativity,
• 3:34:18
  Speaker 8: I'm sure he'll be able to figure out ways to
• 3:34:20
  Speaker 8: get the ball in his hands and how to use him.
• 3:34:22
  Speaker 1: Say Cordell Patterson.
• 3:34:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Cordill Patterson. You know, Bishard Perryman, you know that,
• 3:34:27
  Speaker 8: those types of guys.
• 3:34:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a fun He was a fun guy
• 3:34:30
  Speaker 1: to watch. I was like, what's this guy doing? I mean,
• 3:34:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know why to figure what the number is
• 3:34:33
  Speaker 1: with a handoffs.
• 3:34:33
  Speaker 8: That, oh yeah, and straight out of the backfield too,
• 3:34:37
  Speaker 8: like as a running back. And I think the one
• 3:34:39
  Speaker 8: thing that really could put him over the top is
• 3:34:42
  Speaker 8: is that he has better contested catch skills than I
• 3:34:45
  Speaker 8: would say Patterson did. Like he can climb the ladder
• 3:34:47
  Speaker 8: and catch the ball over guys and use his size
• 3:34:49
  Speaker 8: in that way. But it's funny because they'll he'll drop
• 3:34:52
  Speaker 8: like a five yard slant where he's uncovered and there's
• 3:34:55
  Speaker 8: nobody around him, and he'll just drop the ball and
• 3:34:57
  Speaker 8: then he'll go and moss somebody on the next play.
• 3:34:59
  Speaker 8: It's He's one of those kinds of guys.
• 3:35:00
  Speaker 1: Did you guys look at what's happening in the NFC
• 3:35:03
  Speaker 1: West a little bit as like an arms race. It's
• 3:35:05
  Speaker 1: an arms race right now there.
• 3:35:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, all these receivers have gone. I mean, Detroit
• 3:35:09
  Speaker 7: super explosive offense last year. Chicago seemingly can't get enough receivers.
• 3:35:14
  Speaker 7: We've seen Packers have added a couple as well. You know,
• 3:35:17
  Speaker 7: I just I wonder how much the team inside the
• 3:35:20
  Speaker 7: division kind of dictates how the rest of the team's
• 3:35:23
  Speaker 7: kind of play. Like when the Patriots were dominating. I
• 3:35:25
  Speaker 7: always felt like the Jets the Bills there always how
• 3:35:27
  Speaker 7: do we get to Tom Brady? You know, we would
• 3:35:28
  Speaker 7: get interior pressure? Do we try to target those guys?
• 3:35:31
  Speaker 7: I just I wonder in that division if Detroit's really
• 3:35:34
  Speaker 7: kind of set in the bar and all these other
• 3:35:36
  Speaker 7: teams are, like, man, we are going to have to
• 3:35:37
  Speaker 7: score a bunch of points to keep up with those
• 3:35:39
  Speaker 7: guys the way they play.
• 3:35:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chad Atlanta. Will there ever be an answer, a
• 3:35:44
  Speaker 4: true answer to the exposition exposition for the Patriots? Yeah?
• 3:35:49
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 3:35:50
  Speaker 4: Evan says Kyle Williams can play on the outside, but
• 3:35:52
  Speaker 4: he's a small guy. Are they really going to go
• 3:35:55
  Speaker 4: into the season with thirty one year old Matt Collins
• 3:35:57
  Speaker 4: at that spot?
• 3:35:59
  Speaker 8: I would say that, Uh, just because the guy is
• 3:36:03
  Speaker 8: not six foot four, it doesn't mean he can't be
• 3:36:05
  Speaker 8: an X receiver. You know, Stefan Diggs has played X
• 3:36:08
  Speaker 8: receiver plenty of in his career in Buffalo, especially in
• 3:36:13
  Speaker 8: Minnesota when he was playing next to THELN, So like,
• 3:36:15
  Speaker 8: it's not it's not just a size thing. Like you
• 3:36:18
  Speaker 8: can play on the outside with a different set of
• 3:36:20
  Speaker 8: skills than just being a big body X receiver that
• 3:36:24
  Speaker 8: can play outside the numbers. So in this kind of
• 3:36:26
  Speaker 8: offense with McDaniels, I mean, there's a lot of guys
• 3:36:29
  Speaker 8: that that weren't big guys that played the X for
• 3:36:32
  Speaker 8: Josh McDaniels. Like I go back to like Brandon Lloyd
• 3:36:35
  Speaker 8: was like he was what one hundred and eighty pounds
• 3:36:37
  Speaker 8: soaking wet, like, I mean, he was not a I.
• 3:36:40
  Speaker 5: Mean, I Fell was bigger than Lloyd. But even you know,
• 3:36:44
  Speaker 5: Josh had got a good year out of Bourne. And
• 3:36:46
  Speaker 5: I know he's not he's not an X like, he's
• 3:36:48
  Speaker 5: not really in that, but he's not afraid to be unconventional. Yeah,
• 3:36:52
  Speaker 5: And I think Josh likes Kendrick Bourne for whatever reason,
• 3:36:56
  Speaker 5: Like I like, I we talked about this. I would
• 3:36:59
  Speaker 5: make him expendable before I would make a younger guy
• 3:37:02
  Speaker 5: expendable Budger. I don't think Josh looks at it that way. Now,
• 3:37:05
  Speaker 5: and someone's going to go now, I mean they added
• 3:37:07
  Speaker 5: Kyle Williams, Someone's going to go.
• 3:37:09
  Speaker 7: I mean to me, it's just about I'd like a
• 3:37:12
  Speaker 7: spectrum of options, and you know, of course, competition's got
• 3:37:15
  Speaker 7: to be part of it, and you want to let
• 3:37:16
  Speaker 7: these guys all duke it out and there is some
• 3:37:18
  Speaker 7: overlap with the position group, but you know, I want
• 3:37:21
  Speaker 7: a guy with speed. I want a guy who you
• 3:37:23
  Speaker 7: know good after the catch. I want some size like
• 3:37:26
  Speaker 7: with Mac Collins. I mean, you joke about it, but
• 3:37:29
  Speaker 7: Mac Collins being like your fifth receiver and being a
• 3:37:31
  Speaker 7: key special teams guy like that's an important role on
• 3:37:34
  Speaker 7: the team. And you know, somebody who can contribute in
• 3:37:36
  Speaker 7: both phases. So and that's why I'm excited about Williams.
• 3:37:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, I set up before they picked him and
• 3:37:40
  Speaker 7: wanted a guy in that mold.
• 3:37:42
  Speaker 10: That was what I was.
• 3:37:42
  Speaker 1: Interested in this year. Not the not the little slot guys,
• 3:37:45
  Speaker 1: not the tough guys, but the guys who's just going
• 3:37:47
  Speaker 1: to bring an element of separation and speed. And that's
• 3:37:50
  Speaker 1: and I think they've really.
• 3:37:51
  Speaker 4: Got a good spectrum in this room. I don't know
• 3:37:52
  Speaker 4: how it'll work out.
• 3:37:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the one and then the two
• 3:37:55
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff will be, but I think they
• 3:37:57
  Speaker 1: have enough to work with that fosters some competition the
• 3:37:59
  Speaker 1: summer camp, get some joint practices, start to see you
• 3:38:02
  Speaker 1: know who who stands out.
• 3:38:03
  Speaker 5: Like Rise And again I keep saying it, you can't fill.
• 3:38:06
  Speaker 5: They probably still have a hole there at that one,
• 3:38:09
  Speaker 5: but you can't fill them all at once. Someone wrote in,
• 3:38:12
  Speaker 5: you know, like a half hour ago, you know, the
• 3:38:13
  Speaker 5: idea of digs with Kyle Williams and to Mario Douglas,
• 3:38:18
  Speaker 5: it's not the worst this room for a one there
• 3:38:22
  Speaker 5: to knock all those guys down a spot, but that's
• 3:38:25
  Speaker 5: better than they've had out there the last couple of years.
• 3:38:27
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 3:38:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And like you said, Paul if Stefan Diggs is
• 3:38:30
  Speaker 8: just like a bridge one for now, you know. You
• 3:38:32
  Speaker 8: know this year he's a bridge one and you got
• 3:38:35
  Speaker 8: the left tackle this year. Maybe next year in the
• 3:38:38
  Speaker 8: first round there's a stud wide receiver that comes out
• 3:38:40
  Speaker 8: that you feel is worthy of a pick, you know,
• 3:38:43
  Speaker 8: in the wherever they.
• 3:38:44
  Speaker 5: Let's say that you get better and he's a bridge
• 3:38:47
  Speaker 5: guy one year, but you're picking in the teens next year.
• 3:38:50
  Speaker 5: You can be in line to get a you know,
• 3:38:52
  Speaker 5: a top wide receiver. You know, maybe not like a
• 3:38:55
  Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Myleak Neighbors type, because they're going to go
• 3:38:58
  Speaker 5: at the top of the round, but you can get
• 3:38:59
  Speaker 5: a player in the teams at that position. You gotta
• 3:39:04
  Speaker 5: feel you got to take him as they come. You know,
• 3:39:06
  Speaker 5: it's like Cleveland's not forcing the quarterback. They still need
• 3:39:10
  Speaker 5: a quarterback.
• 3:39:10
  Speaker 4: You should yet you know, oh my god, Wownderson comes
• 3:39:17
  Speaker 4: in and has forty catches this year. Maybe what what
• 3:39:21
  Speaker 4: does that mean?
• 3:39:21
  Speaker 1: Who gets forty catches?
• 3:39:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that would be awesome. I don't know if he's
• 3:39:26
  Speaker 8: gonna have forty catches, but that would be great. I mean,
• 3:39:28
  Speaker 8: he's got that kind of ability, There's no doubt about it. Like,
• 3:39:31
  Speaker 8: he's got that kind of past catching ability. And you know,
• 3:39:34
  Speaker 8: if he's truly good enough in pass protection and they
• 3:39:38
  Speaker 8: keep aces the test mentally in that respect, then they
• 3:39:42
  Speaker 8: can keep him on the field for third downs and
• 3:39:44
  Speaker 8: and maybe, like it's possible.
• 3:39:45
  Speaker 7: It's kind of an interesting experiment. I mean, you guys
• 3:39:47
  Speaker 7: would you guys would know that. You know, it took
• 3:39:49
  Speaker 7: some time for Sane Vereen to kind of develop with
• 3:39:52
  Speaker 7: Kevin fall.
• 3:39:52
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, took some time, you know, for.
• 3:39:55
  Speaker 1: James White to then develop.
• 3:39:56
  Speaker 5: Both of those guys basically red shirted offense for that.
• 3:40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but but Henderson has like pass protection skills.
• 3:40:03
  Speaker 5: He comes in with that probably at a higher level
• 3:40:05
  Speaker 5: than most.
• 3:40:06
  Speaker 1: So it's it's, you know, it'll just an interesting experiment.
• 3:40:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna work.
• 3:40:09
  Speaker 4: When Veren came, it was fun, and then when when
• 3:40:13
  Speaker 4: White came, it was Ververen. So they had to wait
• 3:40:15
  Speaker 4: their turn. Yeah, am I right? Yeah?
• 3:40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
• 3:40:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, uh, this guy doesn't have to wait for anybody.
• 3:40:20
  Speaker 7: No, No, I mean, and I mean, and I kind
• 3:40:21
  Speaker 7: of like Antonio gets. I mean, you know, I was
• 3:40:23
  Speaker 7: probably liked him a little more than anybody else, but
• 3:40:26
  Speaker 7: young legs and running back.
• 3:40:28
  Speaker 5: He's not ready. He's not ready.
• 3:40:29
  Speaker 8: Yea, yeah, no, I but I think you're gonna as
• 3:40:33
  Speaker 8: a team like the Patriots that that are starving for
• 3:40:36
  Speaker 8: big plays run offense, You're gonna want to find ways
• 3:40:39
  Speaker 8: to get Trevon Henderson the ball in space, like, even
• 3:40:42
  Speaker 8: if it's has to be really orchestrated because he can't
• 3:40:45
  Speaker 8: handle just playing every single third down right out of
• 3:40:49
  Speaker 8: the gate with the pass protection responsibilities. I think you're
• 3:40:52
  Speaker 8: still going to try to find ways on first and
• 3:40:53
  Speaker 8: second down, throw them screens, throw them passes into the flats,
• 3:40:57
  Speaker 8: you know, swings, things like that, and just to see
• 3:40:59
  Speaker 8: if you can get them and get him, get him
• 3:41:01
  Speaker 8: into some space.
• 3:41:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And I think if they felt like Shane Vereen
• 3:41:03
  Speaker 5: was ready, like Kevin Falk did nothing really that last year.
• 3:41:06
  Speaker 5: Got heard that twenty eleven year he didn't. It wasn't
• 3:41:09
  Speaker 5: really a big part. I don't think he was even
• 3:41:11
  Speaker 5: active in the playoffs.
• 3:41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they had Danny Woodhead kind of had the.
• 3:41:14
  Speaker 7: Like would stop gap a little, right, It was Woodhead
• 3:41:17
  Speaker 7: that he got aways too.
• 3:41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Veren was really good in that strol.
• 3:41:20
  Speaker 7: But then I remember you get to twenty fifteen and
• 3:41:23
  Speaker 7: and then the playoffs in twenty fifteen and James White
• 3:41:25
  Speaker 7: had like fifteen targets or something crazy.
• 3:41:27
  Speaker 1: Like that, Like me just a bunch of touches, had six.
• 3:41:29
  Speaker 5: Didn't you have like a million catches in that Denver game?
• 3:41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 3:41:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, soft for that wheel route, right, And I.
• 3:41:35
  Speaker 1: Remember kind of like going into that.
• 3:41:37
  Speaker 5: I remember going to that offen amazing, how Brady's never
• 3:41:39
  Speaker 5: made a bad pass.
• 3:41:41
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 3:41:41
  Speaker 7: It's it's funny, is I remember being kind of frustrated
• 3:41:43
  Speaker 7: by that game and like, what are we doing?
• 3:41:45
  Speaker 5: We're trying to force the ball that James White targeted
• 3:41:47
  Speaker 5: him a million times.
• 3:41:48
  Speaker 7: Cut to one year later in the Super Bowl and
• 3:41:50
  Speaker 7: James White is you know, got two point conversions in
• 3:41:52
  Speaker 7: the game when he touched down.
• 3:41:54
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's funny how it works out.
• 3:41:56
  Speaker 4: Ryan says, saying the Pages would have picked Kyle Williams
• 3:41:58
  Speaker 4: in the second is outrageous. They would have picked Nick
• 3:42:01
  Speaker 4: Nash in the second, Let's be honest.
• 3:42:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I said this before the draft, and I just
• 3:42:07
  Speaker 8: that's why I think I'm I'm mostly excited because you know, Paul,
• 3:42:11
  Speaker 8: you say this a lot, but like, we don't really
• 3:42:13
  Speaker 8: know what these guys are going to turn into. Like
• 3:42:14
  Speaker 8: we all hope that, we have hope that they're going
• 3:42:16
  Speaker 8: to turn into great players. But they've stuck to the
• 3:42:19
  Speaker 8: board here, like Campbell Anderson, Williams, is they all they
• 3:42:23
  Speaker 8: picked them exactly where everyone had them projected to go,
• 3:42:26
  Speaker 8: you know, first, second, third round, and there's no reaches,
• 3:42:29
  Speaker 8: there's no wait what they picked who in the second round?
• 3:42:32
  Speaker 8: Like there's nothing going on like that. You know, that's
• 3:42:35
  Speaker 8: that's a refreshing feeling because I didn't really necessarily feel
• 3:42:38
  Speaker 8: that way the last couple of years.
• 3:42:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and again, we don't know that the projections are right.
• 3:42:43
  Speaker 5: But there's two things. Number One, you you inherently feel
• 3:42:48
  Speaker 5: better when they're picking guys that you're really familiar with
• 3:42:50
  Speaker 5: at you know, in the school positions.
• 3:42:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah sure.
• 3:42:52
  Speaker 5: Will you be talking about running back a wide receiver?
• 3:42:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 3:42:55
  Speaker 5: Like I know these guys, I know these names. I
• 3:42:58
  Speaker 5: watched the highlights, these guys as to the guard that
• 3:43:01
  Speaker 5: like there is.
• 3:43:03
  Speaker 1: I know, well that was last year with like what
• 3:43:04
  Speaker 1: day two when they had you know, a bunch of
• 3:43:06
  Speaker 1: guards going and they're.
• 3:43:07
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, okay, wait yeah road grad. Yeah it looks
• 3:43:11
  Speaker 5: like but it's harder, it's harder to make the projection.
• 3:43:13
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  Speaker 4: All right back here, Jalen Milroe just got taken. Hey, thanks,
• 3:48:24
  Speaker 4: and Shador Sanders is still out there. This is a
• 3:48:27
  Speaker 4: repeat at this point, it's like not even like a story,
• 3:48:31
  Speaker 4: you know, It's like, oh, it's a story.
• 3:48:33
  Speaker 5: Like for these NFL people that are like a gash,
• 3:48:36
  Speaker 5: I wonder are they are they talking? Like on Twitter
• 3:48:39
  Speaker 5: they keep writing all like the players that are available
• 3:48:41
  Speaker 5: at all, and every one of them, you know, He's.
• 3:48:44
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit of a psychological experiment to me
• 3:48:47
  Speaker 7: because after I heard Sanders talk at the combine and
• 3:48:50
  Speaker 7: just you know, couldn't have been more self assured, more
• 3:48:53
  Speaker 7: confident in himself.
• 3:48:54
  Speaker 1: And it's like, this is going to go one of
• 3:48:56
  Speaker 1: two ways. And now I just want to see how
• 3:48:58
  Speaker 1: he deals with this.
• 3:48:59
  Speaker 10: What's this?
• 3:49:00
  Speaker 1: You know, what does this do to him?
• 3:49:02
  Speaker 7: He seemed to completely believe that he was ready to
• 3:49:04
  Speaker 7: come in and turn a franchise around, and now he's
• 3:49:06
  Speaker 7: going to have to, you know, take a long look
• 3:49:07
  Speaker 7: at going into a team and working his way in
• 3:49:10
  Speaker 7: waiting for an opportunity, trying to get better. It's I
• 3:49:12
  Speaker 7: think it's a lot different. I just can't imagine that
• 3:49:15
  Speaker 7: there was anyone telling.
• 3:49:16
  Speaker 1: Him that he was going to end up being a
• 3:49:17
  Speaker 1: Day three selection. I mean, I made a bet with
• 3:49:19
  Speaker 1: Paul He's going on the top of it.
• 3:49:20
  Speaker 4: But like, I didn't think he was that great. But
• 3:49:22
  Speaker 4: I think he's better than Jalen milroeh. I just you know,
• 3:49:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty.
• 3:49:26
  Speaker 5: Sure, so I think he's better than Jalen Milroe as well.
• 3:49:31
  Speaker 5: But Jalen Milroe is a vastly superior athlete. And if
• 3:49:37
  Speaker 5: you don't think that Sanders can throw well enough, he
• 3:49:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't have the physical skills to make up for that. Now,
• 3:49:44
  Speaker 5: I think that Sanders is better than Milroe, but I
• 3:49:46
  Speaker 5: could understand why someone could look at Milroe and say,
• 3:49:49
  Speaker 5: I can lamar Jackson him. He's special, He's got a
• 3:49:52
  Speaker 5: special skill that Sanders doesn't.
• 3:49:54
  Speaker 8: Special runner and and really good arm like you know, yes,
• 3:49:58
  Speaker 8: very inaccurate, but really good armed strength and power in
• 3:50:01
  Speaker 8: his throes. Better at both those things, I would say
• 3:50:05
  Speaker 8: than Chador. But sure Chador is definitely a better pocket passer,
• 3:50:07
  Speaker 8: like he definitely has a better innate feel for playing
• 3:50:10
  Speaker 8: the position for sure.
• 3:50:12
  Speaker 5: I am just fascinated by if this was just about
• 3:50:18
  Speaker 5: the interviews and all that, which a lot of the
• 3:50:22
  Speaker 5: talking heads are intimating, like, oh, this is all deon Sanders.
• 3:50:25
  Speaker 5: You know, they don't they don't want the cocky, brash attitude.
• 3:50:29
  Speaker 5: He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. That
• 3:50:32
  Speaker 5: that can't be. It like it, it has to be.
• 3:50:34
  Speaker 5: People aren't sold on the skills. And then they're saying,
• 3:50:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to bother taking a flyer on a
• 3:50:40
  Speaker 5: guy who has limited skills because of how poorly he interviewed.
• 3:50:43
  Speaker 5: It's it's not worth it. It has to be a
• 3:50:45
  Speaker 5: combination of the two.
• 3:50:47
  Speaker 7: That way, I kind of respect the NFL teams for
• 3:50:49
  Speaker 7: doing it. I just I thought they'd all be duped.
• 3:50:51
  Speaker 7: I thought they'd buy the confidence and they would just say,
• 3:50:53
  Speaker 7: we don't think this guy can really play.
• 3:50:55
  Speaker 1: But it's Dion's kid. He seems like he really is confident.
• 3:50:58
  Speaker 1: He seems to believe in himself. I think we need
• 3:50:59
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. Let's just pull the trigger. That's how I
• 3:51:02
  Speaker 1: saw it unfolding. But I think you're right, Paul. I
• 3:51:04
  Speaker 1: think teams just scared away.
• 3:51:05
  Speaker 4: So the Saints pick is in, then it's the Browns,
• 3:51:08
  Speaker 4: and then it's the Patriots at ninety five in the
• 3:51:11
  Speaker 4: third round, and.
• 3:51:13
  Speaker 5: That ends the third round.
• 3:51:14
  Speaker 1: No, No, still about seven. There's still a chance they
• 3:51:17
  Speaker 1: could trade back down or trade back in.
• 3:51:21
  Speaker 8: Two picks.
• 3:51:22
  Speaker 5: So that's why I was asking, well, they do have
• 3:51:24
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, you haven't even gotten to the compensatory picks yet.
• 3:51:27
  Speaker 8: They do have three fifth round picks now because they
• 3:51:30
  Speaker 8: added a pick, and they have the two seventh So uh,
• 3:51:34
  Speaker 8: in theory they could.
• 3:51:35
  Speaker 4: I forgot about the comp pe Yeah, the third round
• 3:51:38
  Speaker 4: at one O two and the Patriots will be at
• 3:51:41
  Speaker 4: ninety five. Ker went to, Uh, the Saints, Virginia.
• 3:51:51
  Speaker 8: You want two guesses at the Patriots pick. I'll give
• 3:51:53
  Speaker 8: you two guesses.
• 3:51:54
  Speaker 5: Well, one of them.
• 3:51:55
  Speaker 8: Joshua Farmer from Florida State, defensive end, play a little
• 3:51:59
  Speaker 8: bit of tackle as well, long arms on arm length
• 3:52:02
  Speaker 8: with the Patriots. I think he has like thirty five
• 3:52:04
  Speaker 8: inch arms like, he's got real long arms. He's got
• 3:52:07
  Speaker 8: good power, good two gapping ability. The other guy, similar player,
• 3:52:11
  Speaker 8: similar position, Baron Sorel from Texas. Really raw, toolsy, high upside,
• 3:52:18
  Speaker 8: very athletic defensive end, four to three end. I think
• 3:52:22
  Speaker 8: he plays me and he plays nasty, angry effort, finish
• 3:52:26
  Speaker 8: check check. I think both those guys make a lot
• 3:52:28
  Speaker 8: of sense for them right now at this spot in deuce,
• 3:52:31
  Speaker 8: will finally get a player on defense.
• 3:52:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah you think so, No, I don't know.
• 3:52:36
  Speaker 8: It's just my guess.
• 3:52:37
  Speaker 5: We're just trying to play k I.
• 3:52:39
  Speaker 7: Mean, just a little little highlight for tomorrow, so you know,
• 3:52:41
  Speaker 7: fourth round kickoff things that I guess at noon, fourth
• 3:52:44
  Speaker 7: overall pick, and then in the in the fifth round
• 3:52:46
  Speaker 7: if you don't want to do the math.
• 3:52:49
  Speaker 1: They'll pick eighth or sorry, sixth and eighth, and there
• 3:52:53
  Speaker 1: should be one more so.
• 3:52:54
  Speaker 8: The Browns have taken a quarterback. It is not or
• 3:53:00
  Speaker 8: they have taken Dylan Gabriel, the quarterback from Oregon. So
• 3:53:04
  Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel is like five eight five nine, like legitimately
• 3:53:07
  Speaker 8: like he's he's tiny.
• 3:53:09
  Speaker 5: So there's a guy with probably less physical skills like that.
• 3:53:13
  Speaker 8: They just really did not like Shdoor Sanders like that.
• 3:53:16
  Speaker 8: This is a complete I mean, Dylan Gabriel, this highest
• 3:53:19
  Speaker 8: is honestly kind of crazy. I think this is kind
• 3:53:21
  Speaker 8: of might just.
• 3:53:22
  Speaker 4: Burn this league down.
• 3:53:24
  Speaker 10: He might.
• 3:53:24
  Speaker 4: He might go to war with the NFL.
• 3:53:26
  Speaker 8: The Patriots are on the clock.
• 3:53:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, is it too late for Shure to
• 3:53:29
  Speaker 1: go back to Colorado since they retired his number?
• 3:53:32
  Speaker 4: Ah? Well, you can always unretire what you retire, I mean,
• 3:53:37
  Speaker 4: just wear a different number. Right, I can do whatever
• 3:53:39
  Speaker 4: he wants. Okay, So the Patriots are on the clock.
• 3:53:45
  Speaker 4: The pick is in for Cleveland, so we await the
• 3:53:49
  Speaker 4: Patriots pick. Here on Patriots Unfiltered getting into the wee
• 3:53:54
  Speaker 4: hours here. This is bonus cover, bonus coverage.
• 3:53:58
  Speaker 7: I want to shout out to a the caller or
• 3:54:01
  Speaker 7: email or that you know picked the bone with me
• 3:54:03
  Speaker 7: and then you guys for you know, kind of pile
• 3:54:05
  Speaker 7: on me a little bit because I feel like it.
• 3:54:06
  Speaker 4: You know, it is the juice we needed.
• 3:54:10
  Speaker 5: That.
• 3:54:10
  Speaker 1: I'm thanking you. I'm thanking you for for getting me
• 3:54:13
  Speaker 1: a little angry. And you know it's not easy to
• 3:54:15
  Speaker 1: do to get you know.
• 3:54:16
  Speaker 4: The duce fired up, but the deuce, but they did.
• 3:54:20
  Speaker 5: And the third person, I like it.
• 3:54:24
  Speaker 1: It's lau.
• 3:54:25
  Speaker 5: She brought some passion to and otherwise attack the defense.
• 3:54:29
  Speaker 1: I gotta respond, you know, It's just it's how I.
• 3:54:31
  Speaker 5: Am Freddie trying to tell you the defense wasn't as
• 3:54:34
  Speaker 5: bad as the offense really got any got.
• 3:54:37
  Speaker 1: At any point of that, did he turns to you
• 3:54:39
  Speaker 1: and give the eyebrows thing?
• 3:54:40
  Speaker 5: He didn't know? He didn't, although at one point we
• 3:54:43
  Speaker 5: both did look at each other and say how great
• 3:54:45
  Speaker 5: it was that you were as passionate as you were there. Right,
• 3:54:49
  Speaker 5: Is that that's acturate?
• 3:54:50
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 3:54:50
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 3:54:50
  Speaker 1: No, it's good, it's good. We needed we need a
• 3:54:52
  Speaker 1: little kick in the pants there.
• 3:54:53
  Speaker 8: Post ten PM, I still can't believe they took Dylan Gabriel. Yeah,
• 3:54:56
  Speaker 8: I mean that's crazy that that's absolutely crazy.
• 3:54:59
  Speaker 5: Like Dan Gabriel is the ultimate college quarterback.
• 3:55:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, most people had Dylan Gabriel like just pulling him
• 3:55:04
  Speaker 8: up in the beast right now, Dylan Gabriel had a
• 3:55:07
  Speaker 8: fourth round grade. I'm in the beast. So Dame Bruger
• 3:55:11
  Speaker 8: had a first second on Shador Sanders and they took
• 3:55:13
  Speaker 8: a guy with the fourth round grade instead.
• 3:55:16
  Speaker 1: So this is just basically four is having the draft
• 3:55:21
  Speaker 1: party again tonight or is that that was just last
• 3:55:24
  Speaker 1: They don't have like a he's just sitting at home.
• 3:55:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy, he's just like throwing dirt right on
• 3:55:31
  Speaker 5: the grave.
• 3:55:32
  Speaker 4: He's not dead.
• 3:55:34
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get a chance.
• 3:55:35
  Speaker 4: But I don't know, is he I don't know.
• 3:55:39
  Speaker 5: You think he goes on drafted period?
• 3:55:41
  Speaker 10: No, damn?
• 3:55:42
  Speaker 1: I mean at what point does he start wishing for that?
• 3:55:45
  Speaker 5: Take him at North Carolina?
• 3:55:47
  Speaker 8: I would have to think Pittsburgh. Maybe at some point
• 3:55:51
  Speaker 8: in the when maybe Brady.
• 3:55:53
  Speaker 1: Brady gets the Raiders to help him out.
• 3:55:54
  Speaker 4: His boys should But now like again, well maybe he's humbled.
• 3:56:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but like now you pick him in
• 3:56:02
  Speaker 4: the fourth round, the fifth round as this project. But
• 3:56:06
  Speaker 4: the clamor is going to be get him out there,
• 3:56:08
  Speaker 4: get him out there, and do you want that?
• 3:56:10
  Speaker 1: Well that's a good question, Fred, I mean, do you
• 3:56:12
  Speaker 1: think if he's taken.
• 3:56:13
  Speaker 8: Uh, Patriots pick us in.
• 3:56:17
  Speaker 5: We don't have only only an hour over.
• 3:56:20
  Speaker 4: It'll be the center of attention when we talk about
• 3:56:23
  Speaker 4: very good food wild.
• 3:56:29
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Dylan Gabriel.
• 3:56:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Okay, I guess I should don't care.
• 3:56:40
  Speaker 8: Quarter back, Yeah, speaking of centers.
• 3:56:46
  Speaker 4: Not happy, speaking of centers, all right, Evan Happy? Yeah, yeah,
• 3:56:51
  Speaker 4: you know, it is what it is. Who was that
• 3:56:55
  Speaker 4: five ninety five? Yep? So why don't we just talk
• 3:57:00
  Speaker 4: about it?
• 3:57:00
  Speaker 8: All right? So well, we're going to be the first
• 3:57:03
  Speaker 8: one to talk about it.
• 3:57:04
  Speaker 4: Just oh really yeah, no one else is not, okay,
• 3:57:07
  Speaker 4: so let's wait, yeah, let's wait. Wow, I can't believe that.
• 3:57:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, maybe just you talk a little bit about
• 3:57:14
  Speaker 7: David Andrews retired this year, obviously a great player from Georgia.
• 3:57:22
  Speaker 1: Snap the ball, all right, I mean I.
• 3:57:28
  Speaker 8: Show I tried to play.
• 3:57:32
  Speaker 9: I tried to play.
• 3:57:34
  Speaker 7: Because I just wanted to honor David Andrews and the
• 3:57:36
  Speaker 7: great job he did as a center from Georgia for
• 3:57:39
  Speaker 7: the Patriots.
• 3:57:40
  Speaker 4: Adam and We said, the networks are absolutely talking about
• 3:57:43
  Speaker 4: Shador Sanders slides, so much so that NFL network was
• 3:57:47
  Speaker 4: discussing if he could return to college and he can't.
• 3:57:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, they were bringing that up too.
• 3:57:55
  Speaker 5: So I I wonder the team that I would really
• 3:57:58
  Speaker 5: wonder about is purg because of Tomlin and his strong
• 3:58:04
  Speaker 5: like I'm talking about the teams that need a quarterback,
• 3:58:06
  Speaker 5: but his strong program. He can take him. And I think, Fred,
• 3:58:11
  Speaker 5: you might be right, like this might end up being
• 3:58:14
  Speaker 5: something that could be beneficial for him if he allows
• 3:58:16
  Speaker 5: it to be and have it humble him.
• 3:58:18
  Speaker 4: A little bit. Yeah.
• 3:58:20
  Speaker 5: And then for any of these people that are talking
• 3:58:22
  Speaker 5: about how poorly he interviewed, you can't interview poorly in
• 3:58:28
  Speaker 5: that regard after getting you know, you know, snubbed for
• 3:58:32
  Speaker 5: three rounds. Right, So maybe Pittsburgh looks to pick him up.
• 3:58:36
  Speaker 5: And you know, even if they do end up signing
• 3:58:40
  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, you know, it's only a one year thing
• 3:58:42
  Speaker 5: more than likely. So you let him learn and let
• 3:58:44
  Speaker 5: him be humble, yep, and let him, you know, get
• 3:58:47
  Speaker 5: himself prepared under a guy like like.
• 3:58:50
  Speaker 4: Let's go to James White. Yeah, at the podium, he's
• 3:58:53
  Speaker 4: going to be announcing the Patriots pickerta to see them right.
• 3:58:56
  Speaker 17: Now as the pass ninety fifth overall selection.
• 3:59:00
  Speaker 4: What's going on Wesco?
• 3:59:03
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 3:59:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with the ninety fifth pick in the twenty.
• 3:59:06
  Speaker 20: Twenty five NFL Draft the sixth time Super Bowl champion
• 3:59:11
  Speaker 20: New England, Pagris select Jared Wilson center Georgia.
• 3:59:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, this is so.
• 3:59:18
  Speaker 4: We talked about it. Could they take a center in
• 3:59:21
  Speaker 4: the third round and they did? They stick to offense. Dudes,
• 3:59:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry now, it is what it is.
• 3:59:26
  Speaker 1: That's all right.
• 3:59:27
  Speaker 7: I mean I do think I mean I would almost
• 3:59:29
  Speaker 7: put the need at center vaguely in the position of
• 3:59:32
  Speaker 7: where the edge need is. But I think at this
• 3:59:36
  Speaker 7: point this is the kind of position where I think
• 3:59:38
  Speaker 7: I'd rather they go and get the player and not
• 3:59:41
  Speaker 7: kind of sit there and wait. We've talked a lot
• 3:59:44
  Speaker 7: about the depth that they have there, but is there
• 3:59:46
  Speaker 7: really any depth there?
• 3:59:47
  Speaker 1: We don't know for sure. You know, behind Bradbury, what
• 3:59:51
  Speaker 1: they have in Cole Strange, you know what they might
• 3:59:54
  Speaker 1: have in Jake Andrews.
• 3:59:56
  Speaker 5: So they don't have a ton invested in Bradbury. It's
• 3:59:59
  Speaker 5: a two year deal, there's some guaranteed money. It's like
• 4:00:01
  Speaker 5: three million. He's going to be on the team, yeah,
• 4:00:04
  Speaker 5: you know, barring something you know, unforeseen. But goes back
• 4:00:07
  Speaker 5: to Fred's thing last night, like if they it might
• 4:00:09
  Speaker 5: have been early tonight. I don't know. It all blends together.
• 4:00:11
  Speaker 1: We run there so long.
• 4:00:13
  Speaker 5: If they took a if they took a center, you know,
• 4:00:17
  Speaker 5: is that like a plug and play kind of a move.
• 4:00:19
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I think this competition. I mean, do I
• 4:00:22
  Speaker 5: think that Garrett Bradbury is the starting center? Yes, I do.
• 4:00:25
  Speaker 5: But if this kid comes in and he's he's really
• 4:00:28
  Speaker 5: good and he makes Bradbury expendable, I don't. I don't
• 4:00:32
  Speaker 5: think that that's out of the Roman possibility Fred's theory.
• 4:00:35
  Speaker 10: No.
• 4:00:35
  Speaker 7: I mean it's look, Patriots no strangers to having centers
• 4:00:38
  Speaker 7: come in and start as rookies, right, And I think.
• 4:00:40
  Speaker 5: Evan you probably were right. They're moving down with a
• 4:00:44
  Speaker 5: n eye on a player that they probably knew a
• 4:00:46
  Speaker 5: center is going to be available. Yeah.
• 4:00:48
  Speaker 8: So I really thought that Jared Wilson uh graded out
• 4:00:52
  Speaker 8: really highly for me. I mean he was my sixty sixth,
• 4:00:55
  Speaker 8: sixty seventh player on the board. Obviously he plays center,
• 4:00:59
  Speaker 8: so you know, probably docks them around or so there
• 4:01:02
  Speaker 8: with that, but a fantastic combine nine point nine to
• 4:01:07
  Speaker 8: eight relative athletics scorer out of ten. That's elite athleticism
• 4:01:11
  Speaker 8: at the position. Wide body, good athlete, stout, anchor to
• 4:01:15
  Speaker 8: them and pass protection, you know, and head up rushers,
• 4:01:17
  Speaker 8: you know, zero technique nose tackles, try to bowl rush
• 4:01:20
  Speaker 8: him and push them in the pocket box with a
• 4:01:22
  Speaker 8: nice low center of gravity. I really think this is
• 4:01:25
  Speaker 8: a starting center of the future, like a guy that
• 4:01:29
  Speaker 8: has starting center caliber upside. Now, he only started one
• 4:01:33
  Speaker 8: year at Georgia, so you know, the Garrett Bradbury of
• 4:01:36
  Speaker 8: it all, he's a pretty inexperienced player, especially for his center.
• 4:01:40
  Speaker 8: You know, centers usually you hear about centers have been
• 4:01:44
  Speaker 8: starting forty fifty games in college and you know their
• 4:01:47
  Speaker 8: cerebral and they understand how to run the line of
• 4:01:50
  Speaker 8: scrimmage and how to communicate pre snap and do all
• 4:01:52
  Speaker 8: that different type of stuff. So for now, Jared Wilson
• 4:01:56
  Speaker 8: is you know, a guy that maybe they develop in
• 4:01:58
  Speaker 8: the short term and maybe get him in there midway
• 4:02:01
  Speaker 8: through the season, late rookie season, maybe even your two
• 4:02:04
  Speaker 8: and like Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson, Garrett Bradbury, show him
• 4:02:09
  Speaker 8: the rope. I don't think he can play guard. That
• 4:02:12
  Speaker 8: would be the one thing that I would say, Now,
• 4:02:15
  Speaker 8: could he play it? And could they give him a chance? Like,
• 4:02:18
  Speaker 8: of course they could always give it and play it
• 4:02:20
  Speaker 8: a chance, But I had him as a center. Dan
• 4:02:23
  Speaker 8: Bruger had him as a center. Pretty much everybody you
• 4:02:25
  Speaker 8: you know, look across the board, everybody in the draft
• 4:02:29
  Speaker 8: community had him as a center. So I think he
• 4:02:32
  Speaker 8: is a true center prospect. But like I said, it's
• 4:02:35
  Speaker 8: what I like about it is that you know, you
• 4:02:36
  Speaker 8: have Garrett Bradbery right now that can start day one,
• 4:02:39
  Speaker 8: you know, week one in September, and then Jarrett Wilson's
• 4:02:42
  Speaker 8: got that upside and got that physical tools to potentially
• 4:02:46
  Speaker 8: be the starter in year two or maybe halfway through
• 4:02:49
  Speaker 8: his rookie season or something like that. Yeah, but he's
• 4:02:52
  Speaker 8: got upside. I think he's got tremendous upside with that athleticism.
• 4:02:55
  Speaker 4: Logan and Myrtle Beach right, Sid, I don't understand how
• 4:02:58
  Speaker 4: you can't like this draft. They acknowledged and went for
• 4:03:01
  Speaker 4: guys that positions of need. Given not every prospect will hit,
• 4:03:04
  Speaker 4: but the guys they've taken fit obvious holes they had
• 4:03:07
  Speaker 4: on the roster. I think they couldn't have done much
• 4:03:09
  Speaker 4: better with the issues they needed to fix. LFG Go
• 4:03:12
  Speaker 4: Patriots Nation.
• 4:03:14
  Speaker 5: I think we're all in the same patro change.
• 4:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just except for the edge position.
• 4:03:17
  Speaker 4: But that's fine.
• 4:03:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, the one thing you know about
• 4:03:20
  Speaker 8: this pick to douce his point over there. You know,
• 4:03:23
  Speaker 8: I don't know if Jared Wilson is an immediate contributor.
• 4:03:27
  Speaker 8: You know, I think the first three picks that they
• 4:03:28
  Speaker 8: made are certainly the first two or immediate contributors. My
• 4:03:32
  Speaker 8: guess is that Jared Wilson is more of a developmental play.
• 4:03:35
  Speaker 8: You know, he's a younger player. Like I said, he
• 4:03:37
  Speaker 8: hasn't started a ton of games. That's not a position
• 4:03:40
  Speaker 8: that you know you're gonna make all the line calls
• 4:03:41
  Speaker 8: and do all You don't just throw those guys into
• 4:03:43
  Speaker 8: the into the fire too often at that spot. So
• 4:03:47
  Speaker 8: this is the first one out of the guys that
• 4:03:48
  Speaker 8: they've taken that I feel like is we're more talking
• 4:03:51
  Speaker 8: about the long game with a guy like Jared Wilson.
• 4:03:55
  Speaker 4: Gary and Ireland. Jared Wilson not the sexy pick, but
• 4:03:59
  Speaker 4: a very good pick. He'll be there at center for
• 4:04:01
  Speaker 4: the next ten years.
• 4:04:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know about ten years, but people love to
• 4:04:07
  Speaker 5: use that line and it makes me laugh. For the
• 4:04:10
  Speaker 5: next decade, Well, you just pencil them in for the
• 4:04:12
  Speaker 5: next ten years again about it? Like you see these
• 4:04:15
  Speaker 5: poor guys like Ryan Ramschiks for like New Orleans excellent
• 4:04:18
  Speaker 5: offensive lineman. He just had to retire because it's like
• 4:04:21
  Speaker 5: kneezer shot. He's been in the league like seven years.
• 4:04:23
  Speaker 4: I know, but you do realize that this is a
• 4:04:25
  Speaker 4: show for Patriots fans.
• 4:04:26
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. But I'm just saying, like, do
• 4:04:28
  Speaker 5: you know how hard it is to play for ten years?
• 4:04:31
  Speaker 5: That's what my point is, not that these guys aren't
• 4:04:34
  Speaker 5: good players in the NFL right and nowadays like they're
• 4:04:38
  Speaker 5: starting to make money so they don't have to play
• 4:04:40
  Speaker 5: that long like that offensive lineman, especially Emery Ratt wants to.
• 4:04:45
  Speaker 4: Know, does this mean cole Strange goes back to left guard?
• 4:04:48
  Speaker 8: I think that Cole Strange is going back to left
• 4:04:50
  Speaker 8: guard regardless. You know, I thought, I've thought since the
• 4:04:54
  Speaker 8: moment they signed Bradberry that he was the leader in
• 4:04:57
  Speaker 8: the clubhouse to be the starting center unless he had
• 4:05:00
  Speaker 8: like a real drop off in training camp and was really,
• 4:05:02
  Speaker 8: you know, having a tough time of it in training camp.
• 4:05:05
  Speaker 8: So that guard competition, you know, it's it's Robinson, it's
• 4:05:09
  Speaker 8: Cold Strange, it's City. So right now, I think one
• 4:05:11
  Speaker 8: of those three guys they hope we'll emerge out of
• 4:05:14
  Speaker 8: the out of the the camp battle.
• 4:05:16
  Speaker 1: A couple just beasts.
• 4:05:17
  Speaker 7: No, sorry, Evan, if I didn't, if I didn't hear
• 4:05:19
  Speaker 7: you mentioned this, but led all offensive linemen in the
• 4:05:22
  Speaker 7: forty yard, dashed to the combine four point y four
• 4:05:24
  Speaker 7: and hit twenty one point zero four miles per hour,
• 4:05:27
  Speaker 7: the fastest ever for a center.
• 4:05:29
  Speaker 1: So we can run. He'll be running up those hills
• 4:05:30
  Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty fast.
• 4:05:32
  Speaker 8: Okay, little nuggets.
• 4:05:34
  Speaker 5: So we got that.
• 4:05:34
  Speaker 1: Go on gets from the beast, which is nice. Which
• 4:05:36
  Speaker 1: is nice, be running.
• 4:05:37
  Speaker 4: Fast, little run on safeties Xavier Watts, we talked about him,
• 4:05:42
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame. Then Jalen Smith from USC earlier, Jonas Sanker
• 4:05:47
  Speaker 4: from Virginia. So three out of the last six picks
• 4:05:51
  Speaker 4: were safeties.
• 4:05:52
  Speaker 5: There's Jonas soft j yogging.
• 4:05:56
  Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, Raiders have two picks.
• 4:05:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not completely out of the San.
• 4:06:00
  Speaker 4: Francisco's got to pick the Eagles and then Minnesota and
• 4:06:04
  Speaker 4: that closes out the third round. So we're getting close.
• 4:06:10
  Speaker 4: Let's see. Jeremiah says, I don't understand the Sanders fall.
• 4:06:14
  Speaker 4: I can someone understand the argument for Jackson Dart being better,
• 4:06:17
  Speaker 4: but I don't see it. Every other backup after that.
• 4:06:19
  Speaker 4: Just seems like the league has this unreal dislike for him.
• 4:06:23
  Speaker 4: It would seem that way for whatever reason that dislike.
• 4:06:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's born out of ability, because
• 4:06:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think you just don't take like three rounds in, right,
• 4:06:35
  Speaker 5: you know, just because you don't like someone. Yeah, like
• 4:06:38
  Speaker 5: that might be why Aaron Rodgers dropped from the top
• 4:06:41
  Speaker 5: of the first round to like the middle of the
• 4:06:42
  Speaker 5: first round or the end of the first round, because
• 4:06:44
  Speaker 5: he rubbed people the wrong way. But obviously the ability
• 4:06:48
  Speaker 5: is we're gonna take him. He's too good to pass up.
• 4:06:50
  Speaker 5: Someone took him.
• 4:06:50
  Speaker 4: He's a super athlete. All right, Let's see for Deuce.
• 4:06:59
  Speaker 4: Ethan says, Sand's actually had a draft room built for
• 4:07:02
  Speaker 4: the draft. It's on Twitter. Check it out.
• 4:07:04
  Speaker 1: Really, you could shot him just sitting in there and
• 4:07:07
  Speaker 1: by himself right now. But I don't know.
• 4:07:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, interesting guy, and I just love to see
• 4:07:15
  Speaker 7: people put in challenging situations, and that seems like this
• 4:07:17
  Speaker 7: is kind of like the exact kind of challenge that
• 4:07:20
  Speaker 7: should or Sanders needed. And I don't know, maybe maybe
• 4:07:23
  Speaker 7: the best will come out of this, Maybe he'll be
• 4:07:24
  Speaker 7: humbled a little bit, and you know, he'll come in
• 4:07:26
  Speaker 7: and then he'll keep his mouth shut and work hard,
• 4:07:28
  Speaker 7: and then that's what teams.
• 4:07:29
  Speaker 5: Are hoping for, that's what he needs to do.
• 4:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hope. I think teams are probably
• 4:07:33
  Speaker 1: hoping that a he doesn't, you know, get.
• 4:07:35
  Speaker 7: Drafted in whatever day three somewhere and still come in
• 4:07:39
  Speaker 7: with that kind of confidence on his shoulder. But also
• 4:07:42
  Speaker 7: too that the fan base doesn't do like we talked
• 4:07:44
  Speaker 7: about before the show with Malie Cunningham and with Joe Milton,
• 4:07:47
  Speaker 7: that there's always an intrigue with the backup quarterback and
• 4:07:51
  Speaker 7: the second there's some kind of you know, something going
• 4:07:53
  Speaker 7: on with the starting quarterback. It's going to start with
• 4:07:55
  Speaker 7: drum beats, and you know, are there going to be
• 4:07:57
  Speaker 7: fans of this team even though should Er sanders Fellow
• 4:07:59
  Speaker 7: the third round on the NFL tells you what they
• 4:08:01
  Speaker 7: think of his potential at least out of the gate,
• 4:08:03
  Speaker 7: and still kind of like expect him to be like, well,
• 4:08:04
  Speaker 7: they got him waiting, let's get him in now, you
• 4:08:06
  Speaker 7: know that kind of thing.
• 4:08:08
  Speaker 4: Let's see, let's go to the phone and we'll go
• 4:08:11
  Speaker 4: to Alex in San Francisco. What's up, Alex?
• 4:08:16
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of Freezency, alex.
• 4:08:20
  Speaker 4: Is alex there.
• 4:08:22
  Speaker 7: It was like me last night with the Peterski Your
• 4:08:25
  Speaker 7: line should have been you got Milton Williams, just shut up.
• 4:08:28
  Speaker 4: You got a lot more than Milton Williams gave and Maine.
• 4:08:31
  Speaker 4: I love this draft so far. It seems like the
• 4:08:33
  Speaker 4: team finally realized that the days of finding diamonds in
• 4:08:36
  Speaker 4: the rough are over. Rabel probably gave Elliott one pick
• 4:08:40
  Speaker 4: to use as he sees fit, and that's how they
• 4:08:42
  Speaker 4: got the wide receiver. Rabel made the rest of the
• 4:08:45
  Speaker 4: picks and went with guys that are good at football.
• 4:08:48
  Speaker 4: Now pick Sanders as the late round quarterback and we'll
• 4:08:50
  Speaker 4: be all set. I think he's kidding. I hope.
• 4:08:54
  Speaker 8: I don't know who's making the picks, but I keep
• 4:08:57
  Speaker 8: saying I just love that they stuck to the board,
• 4:09:00
  Speaker 8: like we still have not had a Patriot reach yet
• 4:09:03
  Speaker 8: and that that is just awesome, Like that's great. Like
• 4:09:06
  Speaker 8: Jared Wilson. I just looked it up. Dame Bruger had
• 4:09:09
  Speaker 8: a second round grade on Jared Wilson.
• 4:09:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
• 4:09:12
  Speaker 8: He had him firmly in the top one hundred.
• 4:09:14
  Speaker 5: So he has him on his beasts at fifty seven.
• 4:09:18
  Speaker 8: I had him at sixty something.
• 4:09:19
  Speaker 5: Now on the other side, Kyle Williams was down in
• 4:09:23
  Speaker 5: the nineties ninety one, but still in the same round. Yeah,
• 4:09:27
  Speaker 5: you know, so like we're not talking about like Tevon
• 4:09:30
  Speaker 5: Wilson kind.
• 4:09:31
  Speaker 1: Of you know, like what Jordan Richards, you know where
• 4:09:34
  Speaker 1: the rounds off, that's where they belong. I mean, they're
• 4:09:37
  Speaker 1: all cold strange easy.
• 4:09:39
  Speaker 7: When these guys have all been picked, it's been easy
• 4:09:41
  Speaker 7: for us to say, this is why they made the pick,
• 4:09:44
  Speaker 7: this is how they fit in, this is why we're
• 4:09:46
  Speaker 7: excited about it.
• 4:09:47
  Speaker 1: And I think in the in.
• 4:09:48
  Speaker 7: Years past, there have been picks that have been really
• 4:09:50
  Speaker 7: hard to explain it or even to ourselves understand, Like
• 4:09:53
  Speaker 7: why why cold strange?
• 4:09:54
  Speaker 1: Right here, I explain it to me. I don't understand it.
• 4:09:57
  Speaker 7: But there's no explanation needed for the picks that they've made.
• 4:10:00
  Speaker 7: I think they all are seriously going to help this offense,
• 4:10:03
  Speaker 7: and I hope that they're going to be able to
• 4:10:04
  Speaker 7: get them out of the basement because that's what they
• 4:10:06
  Speaker 7: were last year.
• 4:10:07
  Speaker 1: So they've got some options to play with.
• 4:10:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the only position. And I don't mean to keep
• 4:10:11
  Speaker 8: on supporting deuce over here, Like I one of those six.
• 4:10:14
  Speaker 8: I really feel like the cherry on top right now
• 4:10:17
  Speaker 8: would be an edge rusher, like just to add one
• 4:10:19
  Speaker 8: of these guys that's going to slip through the cracks
• 4:10:22
  Speaker 8: here in the third round. You know, Jack Sawyer still there.
• 4:10:25
  Speaker 1: At at Jack Sawyer right now.
• 4:10:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, just again, like Rabel, what I like about
• 4:10:30
  Speaker 7: this is just going back to when they signed those
• 4:10:32
  Speaker 7: free agents and we met those free agents, and you
• 4:10:34
  Speaker 7: watch how Robert Spoline plays, and you watch how Milton
• 4:10:37
  Speaker 7: Williams plays, and then you look how all of these
• 4:10:39
  Speaker 7: players play, and you talk to will Campbell today sitting here,
• 4:10:43
  Speaker 7: and it's clear that they have a type.
• 4:10:45
  Speaker 1: They know what they want and they're trying to build.
• 4:10:47
  Speaker 7: And I think, you know my experience professionally when you
• 4:10:50
  Speaker 7: actually know that there's a vision and somebody you know,
• 4:10:52
  Speaker 7: driving the bus and saying this is the kind of
• 4:10:54
  Speaker 7: guys I want, this is how I want to play.
• 4:10:56
  Speaker 7: You know, ve Abel talk to the fans up at
• 4:10:57
  Speaker 7: the party said, you know, we're going to be the
• 4:10:58
  Speaker 7: kind of team that you guys understand and can get behind.
• 4:11:01
  Speaker 1: Them, be proud of. And you know we have a style.
• 4:11:03
  Speaker 7: And I think you just you see that coming to Fruition.
• 4:11:06
  Speaker 7: It has to translate onto the field. Of course, that's
• 4:11:08
  Speaker 7: what's important. But I just think all these pieces, they
• 4:11:10
  Speaker 7: all fit together into a puzzle, and it's it's easy
• 4:11:12
  Speaker 7: to see the picture that Mike Rabel and company are
• 4:11:15
  Speaker 7: putting together.
• 4:11:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. You know, all all coaches want that
• 4:11:21
  Speaker 4: they want to build a culture, they want guys to
• 4:11:23
  Speaker 4: be proud of playing for the team and and all that,
• 4:11:26
  Speaker 4: but not all that they can do it, you know obviously.
• 4:11:31
  Speaker 1: So it's hard. I mean, I think you need to
• 4:11:33
  Speaker 1: have a you know, a unity of vision.
• 4:11:35
  Speaker 7: You need somebody at the top of the pyramid that
• 4:11:37
  Speaker 7: can really communicate what they want, and you have people
• 4:11:41
  Speaker 7: below you that understand.
• 4:11:43
  Speaker 1: And support what you're looking for as well. So it's
• 4:11:45
  Speaker 1: just it seems like.
• 4:11:46
  Speaker 7: They've they've really had a good first off season here
• 4:11:48
  Speaker 7: under Mike Rabel and you know, to reset, recalibrate the
• 4:11:51
  Speaker 7: whole direction of the franchise. And I would hope that
• 4:11:55
  Speaker 7: that Patriot fans out there, I would hope the majority
• 4:11:56
  Speaker 7: of them are pretty excited.
• 4:11:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's it seems hard to.
• 4:11:58
  Speaker 7: Be you know, miss after this offseason between Milton Williams,
• 4:12:02
  Speaker 7: Stefan Diggs, you know, Will Campbell up top the Kyle Williams,
• 4:12:05
  Speaker 7: the guy we talked about for what two hours leading
• 4:12:08
  Speaker 7: up to when they finally took him. We had no
• 4:12:10
  Speaker 7: idea that they liked him as much as we did.
• 4:12:12
  Speaker 7: You know, It's just it's it's all coming together. It's
• 4:12:14
  Speaker 7: it's pretty exciting.
• 4:12:15
  Speaker 4: To see three more picks, and then this round is over.
• 4:12:19
  Speaker 4: The forty nine ers pick is in or no, they're
• 4:12:22
  Speaker 4: on the clock, but probably in. Then it's the Eagles
• 4:12:25
  Speaker 4: and the Vikings.
• 4:12:26
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 4:12:26
  Speaker 4: And then we're supposed to be talking to Ryan Cowden,
• 4:12:29
  Speaker 4: so right after.
• 4:12:30
  Speaker 5: I don't worried about that at the stitch.
• 4:12:33
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, last night I heard it was still happening.
• 4:12:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, keep us trying to trade it. He
• 4:12:37
  Speaker 1: wants me, he wants that last two picks.
• 4:12:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well you never know, they could trade
• 4:12:41
  Speaker 4: back up. Who knows.
• 4:12:42
  Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I take it get a
• 4:12:44
  Speaker 1: couple of fifth rounders tomorrow, you know, yeah.
• 4:12:47
  Speaker 8: I do wonder. You know, there was a lot of
• 4:12:49
  Speaker 8: conversation about like who was truly running this draft, right,
• 4:12:52
  Speaker 8: you know, who was really the guy that was making uh,
• 4:12:55
  Speaker 8: these these final picks. And I got to say, like
• 4:12:59
  Speaker 8: a lot of these guys is like feel like Rabel picks,
• 4:13:02
  Speaker 8: you know, and I know that that's sometimes not the
• 4:13:06
  Speaker 8: best way to read it, but it's just it just
• 4:13:08
  Speaker 8: feels like, you know, some of these players that they've taken.
• 4:13:12
  Speaker 8: I mean, it took Campbell, who was just such a
• 4:13:13
  Speaker 8: Rabel guy from uh through and through, and then they
• 4:13:16
  Speaker 8: took an Ohio State guy, you know, with the next pick.
• 4:13:18
  Speaker 8: So like that feels like it, you know, you go
• 4:13:21
  Speaker 8: back with with the center there in the fourth round,
• 4:13:24
  Speaker 8: you know, I just I feel like this, you know,
• 4:13:27
  Speaker 8: to douce his point, a lot of these guys are
• 4:13:29
  Speaker 8: sort of building that identity and building a vision of
• 4:13:33
  Speaker 8: the type of players that he's looking for. And you
• 4:13:35
  Speaker 8: can tell that his fingerprints are all over a lot
• 4:13:37
  Speaker 8: of these And I said to go back to the trenches,
• 4:13:40
  Speaker 8: and they did. I didn't think it was going to
• 4:13:41
  Speaker 8: be a center, to be honest with you, but they
• 4:13:43
  Speaker 8: did go back to the trenches.
• 4:13:44
  Speaker 4: So John and La says that pick from k C
• 4:13:50
  Speaker 4: is I'm told the fourth k C gut from the
• 4:13:53
  Speaker 4: Bears for Tuny, so it's better than a k C fourth.
• 4:13:57
  Speaker 4: Can you confirm then discuss?
• 4:13:59
  Speaker 1: I can't confirm that.
• 4:14:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I haven't seen any information yet on which fourth
• 4:14:04
  Speaker 8: exactly it is, but I'll try to figure that out.
• 4:14:09
  Speaker 7: I love when you get into the trades and then
• 4:14:10
  Speaker 7: you start to actually calculate, like, well, how bad are
• 4:14:12
  Speaker 7: they going to be?
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  Speaker 1: Like how good is this going to actually be?
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  Speaker 31: In the round?
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  Speaker 1: So it matters.
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  Speaker 5: They're talking about the future one yeah, and they think
• 4:14:20
  Speaker 5: at Chicago's So you're assuming Chicago will finish behind Kansas
• 4:14:25
  Speaker 5: City in terms of record. Maybe it would be a.
• 4:14:27
  Speaker 1: Higher pay, maybe not that far though, it could be
• 4:14:30
  Speaker 1: thirty two and like twenty seven.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Chicago, I don't know how good they'll be,
• 4:14:34
  Speaker 5: but they should be better. I mean, what do they
• 4:14:36
  Speaker 5: they would ten this year in the draft? Yeah, they should.
• 4:14:41
  Speaker 5: They should improve.
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  Speaker 4: David in Madrid loving this draft. If the Patriots get
• 4:14:45
  Speaker 4: the massive Holland Pierce, the big ex Thornton Junior, and
• 4:14:48
  Speaker 4: a tight end like Gunner Helm, I'll give this draft
• 4:14:52
  Speaker 4: a ten out of ten. An edge guy from Mike
• 4:14:54
  Speaker 4: that I like as a lottery pick is Ahmed Hassanane.
• 4:15:00
  Speaker 4: You heard him.
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  Speaker 5: I just threw his hands up in discuss.
• 4:15:02
  Speaker 10: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I mean we're getting the day three I don't I'm
• 4:15:04
  Speaker 7: not going to cling to know. Everybody try to get
• 4:15:08
  Speaker 7: those first, like one hundred picks. Know those pretty well
• 4:15:10
  Speaker 7: inside and out. But there's a lot of dudes, a
• 4:15:12
  Speaker 7: lot of dudes, and then you know, on Sunday, get
• 4:15:15
  Speaker 7: some U DA phase and then you just try to
• 4:15:16
  Speaker 7: forget everything that you've done the last couple of months.
• 4:15:19
  Speaker 4: Let's say this is Jessica. She says, I'm the wife
• 4:15:22
  Speaker 4: of Anthony and Seattle. I saw you guys read his
• 4:15:24
  Speaker 4: email on air, and.
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  Speaker 8: I thought it'd be fun if I could get my
• 4:15:26
  Speaker 8: email read too.
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  Speaker 4: So you just did good for you.
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  Speaker 1: J happy couple out in Seattle.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, your husband's name Evan On the phone.
• 4:15:37
  Speaker 4: On the phone, it's Spee and Fresno. What's up, Spee.
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  Speaker 24: Wow, you guys got me a little, a little deep
• 4:15:44
  Speaker 24: in the bottle, but it's all right. This is great, awesome.
• 4:15:52
  Speaker 24: I'm happy with the draft. I wanted to It was
• 4:15:55
  Speaker 24: a little bit too cerebral for the moment, but I
• 4:15:58
  Speaker 24: wanted to ask. So you know you're thinking that Will Campbell,
• 4:16:03
  Speaker 24: I guess you're saying that maybe he sets ab outside
• 4:16:06
  Speaker 24: it's noticeable, and then guys make a little moves inside so.
• 4:16:10
  Speaker 16: They get around him.
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  Speaker 24: If I heard that right, So if if you're trying
• 4:16:15
  Speaker 24: to scheme for a player in the in the in
• 4:16:18
  Speaker 24: the first round like that, you're like you're asking coaches
• 4:16:20
  Speaker 24: to fix a player like that. Is there a downstream
• 4:16:22
  Speaker 24: effect of that? So you'd almost have to be able
• 4:16:25
  Speaker 24: to set it and forget it for a premier position
• 4:16:27
  Speaker 24: in the first round. But like, like if you start
• 4:16:31
  Speaker 24: to have to sort of scheme around somebody at that position,
• 4:16:34
  Speaker 24: is there a downstream effect where like now you have
• 4:16:36
  Speaker 24: you can't make as many adjustments for other guys at
• 4:16:40
  Speaker 24: you know, maybe on as inherently talented at lower positions.
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  Speaker 4: That make sense, Oh it does? I mean, listen, if
• 4:16:45
  Speaker 4: you have to, like yes, if you have to like
• 4:16:48
  Speaker 4: help out a tackle or any guy in the line
• 4:16:51
  Speaker 4: that's taking up a body, that's that's suggesting that's not
• 4:16:55
  Speaker 4: giving you as many options as you would have otherwise.
• 4:16:58
  Speaker 4: But hopefully even with you know, if that's true, it's
• 4:17:02
  Speaker 4: not every game against every player he comes up with.
• 4:17:06
  Speaker 4: There's just going to be certain players in this league
• 4:17:08
  Speaker 4: that I think unless you're you know, Jonathan Ogden, you're
• 4:17:14
  Speaker 4: gonna have trouble with and we you know, we mentioned
• 4:17:16
  Speaker 4: Matt Light. If you know Matt Light had trouble with
• 4:17:20
  Speaker 4: Jason Taylor, and I'm sure the Patriots at times had
• 4:17:22
  Speaker 4: to listen, he's getting killed. We got to help him
• 4:17:25
  Speaker 4: out here. You know, you can't just like be blind
• 4:17:29
  Speaker 4: to it. He's going to have trouble against certain guys,
• 4:17:33
  Speaker 4: you know, at least at first, there's you know, that's
• 4:17:35
  Speaker 4: just the way it is. And yes, there is a
• 4:17:38
  Speaker 4: trickle down. You're right, there is, And it's a sacrifice
• 4:17:41
  Speaker 4: that you make when you when you have to, you know,
• 4:17:44
  Speaker 4: set leave somebody in for max protect or whatever that
• 4:17:48
  Speaker 4: that limits your offense. It takes things away.
• 4:17:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I can.
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  Speaker 24: I guess the idea is that's like if it's a
• 4:17:53
  Speaker 24: first round pick, you'd hope that you wouldn't have to
• 4:17:56
  Speaker 24: make that many adjudgments.
• 4:17:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, you you hope that you don't have to.
• 4:18:00
  Speaker 8: You hope you don't have to, man Like, you hope
• 4:18:02
  Speaker 8: that you don't have to. But like if you do.
• 4:18:05
  Speaker 8: I'm the only reason why I brought it up is
• 4:18:07
  Speaker 8: because if you do, it's not impossible to do it.
• 4:18:10
  Speaker 8: That that's all. That's all I'm saying. I'm not hoping
• 4:18:13
  Speaker 8: that they're gonna have to do it, isntreams Well, I
• 4:18:18
  Speaker 8: would say the biggest consequence.
• 4:18:21
  Speaker 24: That at that point is does that mean like it
• 4:18:24
  Speaker 24: takes away.
• 4:18:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, let me answer your question, it does. I think
• 4:18:27
  Speaker 8: the biggest thing that you look at is that if
• 4:18:29
  Speaker 8: you're the tight end is chipping, then he's not releasing
• 4:18:32
  Speaker 8: into the pattern right or he's not releasing into the
• 4:18:34
  Speaker 8: pattern right away, so it's like a chip and release.
• 4:18:37
  Speaker 8: So basically you're you're running four guys into the pattern,
• 4:18:40
  Speaker 8: or you're running four and a half if you want
• 4:18:42
  Speaker 8: to call it that way, because once you chip and release,
• 4:18:44
  Speaker 8: you're probably only going to release the guy into the
• 4:18:46
  Speaker 8: flat as kind of like a checkdown on the backside
• 4:18:49
  Speaker 8: type of thing, So you're you are taking a receiver
• 4:18:52
  Speaker 8: in theory out of the pattern. But that, like Fred said,
• 4:18:56
  Speaker 8: it doesn't have to be every single play and it
• 4:18:58
  Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily have to be at all. The point I
• 4:19:02
  Speaker 8: was just trying to make was that if it does
• 4:19:04
  Speaker 8: come to that, that I have faith in the coaching
• 4:19:06
  Speaker 8: staff that they have now in place, especially Josh, to
• 4:19:09
  Speaker 8: be able to do stuff like that like they used
• 4:19:11
  Speaker 8: to do in the past. I mean, there's a million
• 4:19:13
  Speaker 8: examples of them doing this in the past with Bill
• 4:19:16
  Speaker 8: where they faced a dominant edge rusher, and they just said,
• 4:19:19
  Speaker 8: you know, we're going to put two guys on this
• 4:19:21
  Speaker 8: guy and we're going to make sure that he doesn't
• 4:19:23
  Speaker 8: wreck the game. You know, It's it's just that's the
• 4:19:26
  Speaker 8: way it is. You know, some guys are just that great.
• 4:19:30
  Speaker 13: And then let me ask you one more questions.
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  Speaker 24: So, like, given that we just drafted a center, right,
• 4:19:34
  Speaker 24: and so now we're talking about center a little bit.
• 4:19:36
  Speaker 24: Like so now we're talking about the left guard helping
• 4:19:38
  Speaker 24: the left tackle and those specific situations maybe like here
• 4:19:42
  Speaker 24: and there, but like what what if the center needs
• 4:19:45
  Speaker 24: them help? You know, what if like what what is
• 4:19:48
  Speaker 24: the left guard doing to like if the left tackle
• 4:19:51
  Speaker 24: is dragging the left guard out a little bit of
• 4:19:55
  Speaker 24: help or or the tight end or whatever in that situation,
• 4:19:58
  Speaker 24: does that create an imbalance?
• 4:19:59
  Speaker 8: Now, like you're sure or under well, yeah, so, I
• 4:20:04
  Speaker 8: mean not to get too bogged down in all of it,
• 4:20:06
  Speaker 8: but you know, basically, most most standard pass protection systems
• 4:20:12
  Speaker 8: run a half slide protection, right, So you're gonna have
• 4:20:15
  Speaker 8: the center fan out with three guys to one side
• 4:20:17
  Speaker 8: and then you're gonna block man to man on the
• 4:20:19
  Speaker 8: other side. So in theory, you know, you can kind
• 4:20:22
  Speaker 8: of bump over a gap right with every guy that's
• 4:20:24
  Speaker 8: in the slide side of the protection, so the center
• 4:20:28
  Speaker 8: can bump over, the guard can bump over, and then
• 4:20:30
  Speaker 8: the tackle can set out and bump over. So you
• 4:20:34
  Speaker 8: can go about it that way. And you know, maybe
• 4:20:37
  Speaker 8: in just saying if it has to come to that,
• 4:20:40
  Speaker 8: then like you have Mike on money and Morgan Moses
• 4:20:42
  Speaker 8: on the right side, who are two guys that are
• 4:20:44
  Speaker 8: veteran players that you feel pretty good about being one
• 4:20:47
  Speaker 8: on one and you trust those guys to win their blocks,
• 4:20:50
  Speaker 8: you know, and that's what it comes to. But like
• 4:20:53
  Speaker 8: I keep saying, I'm not saying that it's automatic that
• 4:20:56
  Speaker 8: that's gonna have to happen. I'm just saying, if it
• 4:20:58
  Speaker 8: does have to happen, it's not the end of the world.
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  Speaker 24: World and miss Dante, it would be good you get
• 4:21:04
  Speaker 24: to have that man here. But anyway, this is awesome.
• 4:21:06
  Speaker 24: Thank you so much, guys, awesome, awesome shows.
• 4:21:08
  Speaker 9: Rock and roll.
• 4:21:09
  Speaker 24: I love to pick rock and roll.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, thanks me.
• 4:21:14
  Speaker 8: Some real balltop Thearris speed I like to no, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, listen, he's of course, when you have to adjust
• 4:21:20
  Speaker 4: for somebody not being able to go one on one
• 4:21:23
  Speaker 4: that takes away from something else. There is a trickle down,
• 4:21:25
  Speaker 4: and if.
• 4:21:26
  Speaker 5: Every offensive lineman that they have needs help, then obviously.
• 4:21:29
  Speaker 4: You need upgrades on your offensive right now.
• 4:21:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that it was one of those things
• 4:21:34
  Speaker 5: that Evan sort of brought up last night that is
• 4:21:36
  Speaker 5: sort of mushroomed into something. I don't think you intended
• 4:21:40
  Speaker 5: ev correct that he's going to be a rookie who
• 4:21:44
  Speaker 5: might need some help with specific matchups. If we need
• 4:21:49
  Speaker 5: help on every play every game, then he ain't the
• 4:21:52
  Speaker 5: right guy, right, And I don't think that will be
• 4:21:54
  Speaker 5: the case. I don't think he'll need help all the time,
• 4:21:56
  Speaker 5: every game against every match out right. So I don't
• 4:22:01
  Speaker 5: think that you necessarily intended it that way.
• 4:22:03
  Speaker 28: No.
• 4:22:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he can come in, like, think of
• 4:22:05
  Speaker 4: it the other way. If he comes into this league
• 4:22:08
  Speaker 4: and he never needs help against anybody, we've just got
• 4:22:11
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer, Like, I don't think that's the
• 4:22:14
  Speaker 4: case either, you know what I mean?
• 4:22:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, And Paul's right, Like, I didn't intend to
• 4:22:19
  Speaker 8: like alarm anybody that he was gonna constantly need help.
• 4:22:22
  Speaker 8: The only point I was making was that, you know,
• 4:22:24
  Speaker 8: kind of what Fred just said, is that a lot
• 4:22:26
  Speaker 8: of great tackles have needed help against great pass rushers.
• 4:22:29
  Speaker 8: You know, there's a lot of great pass rushers in
• 4:22:31
  Speaker 8: this league, and it's really a time right now where
• 4:22:34
  Speaker 8: there's particularly a lot of them, and sometimes everybody's gonna
• 4:22:39
  Speaker 8: need a little bit of help for the most part,
• 4:22:41
  Speaker 8: you know. I mean, Tristan Wharfs probably doesn't need any help.
• 4:22:44
  Speaker 8: But we're talking about the best left tackle in football
• 4:22:47
  Speaker 8: right And I don't know if Will Campbell will be
• 4:22:50
  Speaker 8: day one that he's not going to be the best
• 4:22:52
  Speaker 8: left tackle in football, But eventually, hopefully he gets to
• 4:22:55
  Speaker 8: the point where he is on an island a Tony
• 4:22:57
  Speaker 8: Lsu left him on an island a ton They left
• 4:23:00
  Speaker 8: him one on one on the backside all the time,
• 4:23:03
  Speaker 8: and he held up in the sec So hopefully that
• 4:23:06
  Speaker 8: skill translates. That's what we're all hoping for.
• 4:23:08
  Speaker 4: One thing we know about him is whatever he needs
• 4:23:10
  Speaker 4: to do to get there, he's gonna be willing to
• 4:23:13
  Speaker 4: do it. He's he's gonna work hard, so and he's
• 4:23:16
  Speaker 4: gonna probably take the coaching really well. And I think
• 4:23:21
  Speaker 4: as compared to the last couple of years, I think
• 4:23:23
  Speaker 4: we've got some better coaching along the offensive line.
• 4:23:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and I'm optimistic, and you know, I'm sure
• 4:23:29
  Speaker 8: that people that are way, you know, smarter about this
• 4:23:32
  Speaker 8: type of stuff than me, you know, Doug Maron and
• 4:23:34
  Speaker 8: Mike Rabel and those types of guys. I'm sure there
• 4:23:37
  Speaker 8: are ways that they can coach his technique and help
• 4:23:39
  Speaker 8: him protect the inside a little bit more consistently than
• 4:23:43
  Speaker 8: he did at LSU. That was just that was the
• 4:23:46
  Speaker 8: fatal flaw on tape with him.
• 4:23:47
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 4:23:48
  Speaker 4: Ryan Counten, Okay, so let's go to Ryan there. He
• 4:23:52
  Speaker 4: is Ryan count and Vice president of player Personnel for
• 4:23:55
  Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. Hey, Ryan, thanks for joining us.
• 4:23:57
  Speaker 4: I know it's been a long night for you.
• 4:24:00
  Speaker 22: Oh that's okay, it's great, appreciate you having me. It's
• 4:24:02
  Speaker 22: good to see you guys. And hello, I guess as
• 4:24:05
  Speaker 22: some of you haven't actually met in person yet with
• 4:24:07
  Speaker 22: everything going on.
• 4:24:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's Mike do So, Evan Lazar, Paul Parolo, myself,
• 4:24:11
  Speaker 4: Fred Kersh. I'll just start it out. When the when
• 4:24:14
  Speaker 4: this night started out, did you know you were gonna
• 4:24:16
  Speaker 4: go all offense?
• 4:24:20
  Speaker 22: I think I think that the great thing about the
• 4:24:22
  Speaker 22: draft is you can always have a plan, but ultimately
• 4:24:25
  Speaker 22: the draft creates situations where you have to react. I
• 4:24:29
  Speaker 22: don't think you ever go in saying, man, we're gonna
• 4:24:31
  Speaker 22: we're gonna hammer this out on one side of the
• 4:24:33
  Speaker 22: ball or the other.
• 4:24:34
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 4:24:35
  Speaker 22: The key is following your board, trusting the board, and
• 4:24:38
  Speaker 22: leading yourself to the picks based off where you've evaluated players.
• 4:24:43
  Speaker 22: You never think, I'm gonna go heavy on this side.
• 4:24:46
  Speaker 22: So it just sometimes works out.
• 4:24:47
  Speaker 4: Just turned out that way, yep.
• 4:24:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Ryan One to actually just about this running back group.
• 4:24:51
  Speaker 7: We've been talking about them all spring. Everyone talked about
• 4:24:54
  Speaker 7: how there's gonna be good players from you know, top
• 4:24:56
  Speaker 7: of the draft with genty all the way into tomorrow.
• 4:24:58
  Speaker 7: How did you guys land on Hender and make him
• 4:25:01
  Speaker 7: your guy out of that big, you know, impressive group.
• 4:25:03
  Speaker 22: Sure, it is an impressive group. And you know, I
• 4:25:05
  Speaker 22: think with Trevion, Trevion has been and a really explosive
• 4:25:10
  Speaker 22: player his whole career at Ohio State. I know there's
• 4:25:12
  Speaker 22: been times in his career where he's worked in tandem
• 4:25:14
  Speaker 22: with other backs, but I think one of the things
• 4:25:17
  Speaker 22: that jumps out is his ability to flip the field,
• 4:25:20
  Speaker 22: his ability to create explosives. You know, I think this
• 4:25:23
  Speaker 22: year he took a really a huge step in his
• 4:25:26
  Speaker 22: pass protection. You'll find some evidence of him on tape
• 4:25:30
  Speaker 22: not afraid to deliver a blow to play square. And
• 4:25:33
  Speaker 22: I think over his career he's grown as a player.
• 4:25:36
  Speaker 22: He's gone through some adversity in his life. He's dealt
• 4:25:39
  Speaker 22: with some stuff on the field off the field, just
• 4:25:41
  Speaker 22: that's hard calloused him. And I think this year he
• 4:25:44
  Speaker 22: was just a guy that he's a real matchup problem.
• 4:25:48
  Speaker 22: And I think when he's on the field, defensive have
• 4:25:50
  Speaker 22: to account for him.
• 4:25:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 4:25:51
  Speaker 5: The next pick you guys made was was Kyle Williams
• 4:25:54
  Speaker 5: the wide receiver. What specifically attracted you guys to him?
• 4:25:58
  Speaker 5: And what about his skill set did you guys like?
• 4:26:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 4:26:01
  Speaker 22: So, I think when you take a look at Kyle
• 4:26:03
  Speaker 22: like there's an explosive, dynamic playmaker element to his game.
• 4:26:07
  Speaker 22: I think if you look over the last two years,
• 4:26:09
  Speaker 22: you know, he played with cam Ward last year after
• 4:26:13
  Speaker 22: transferring over from UNLV to Washington State and played with
• 4:26:16
  Speaker 22: Cam last year. I think Cam probably heavily tried to
• 4:26:19
  Speaker 22: recruit him to go to Miami as well, but you know,
• 4:26:22
  Speaker 22: Kyle stayed and this year he had a great year.
• 4:26:24
  Speaker 22: I think he ended up somewhere around close to twelve
• 4:26:27
  Speaker 22: hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns, And I think when you
• 4:26:30
  Speaker 22: watch what he does in the way he runs routes
• 4:26:33
  Speaker 22: and there's a suddenness to his game. And I think
• 4:26:37
  Speaker 22: as receivers one of the biggest things their job to
• 4:26:39
  Speaker 22: do is is we always say a couple of things right,
• 4:26:41
  Speaker 22: ones get open and the others catch it. And I think, Kyle,
• 4:26:45
  Speaker 22: when you look at the get open face, Kyle has
• 4:26:47
  Speaker 22: some unique skills physically to really create windows for the
• 4:26:52
  Speaker 22: quarterback to throw to him.
• 4:26:53
  Speaker 5: Do you see a little versatility there in terms of
• 4:26:55
  Speaker 5: his alignment? Can he go inside outside maybe a little bit?
• 4:26:58
  Speaker 5: Or do you like him just as a slot No?
• 4:27:01
  Speaker 22: You know, I think actually probably Kyle. You know, I
• 4:27:03
  Speaker 22: don't ever want to try to pigeonhole guys. I think
• 4:27:05
  Speaker 22: the biggest thing is playing receiver. And I know that
• 4:27:07
  Speaker 22: sounds like a very generic idea, but I think when
• 4:27:11
  Speaker 22: you say he's an inside guy, he's an outside guy. Well,
• 4:27:13
  Speaker 22: formations dictate a lot of different things, and sometimes outside guys,
• 4:27:17
  Speaker 22: you know, you go inside for a matchup or then
• 4:27:20
  Speaker 22: you get into saying what do you want certain plays
• 4:27:22
  Speaker 22: to look like? What are you going to ask from
• 4:27:24
  Speaker 22: those roles. I think Kyle does not his physical skills shit,
• 4:27:28
  Speaker 22: don't limit him to either inside outside any of that
• 4:27:31
  Speaker 22: stuff in my opinion.
• 4:27:32
  Speaker 8: So, Ryan, what can you tell us about Jared Wilson?
• 4:27:35
  Speaker 8: And you know, with Garrett Bradberry obviously on the roster already,
• 4:27:39
  Speaker 8: how do you kind of envision that center position looking
• 4:27:42
  Speaker 8: right now?
• 4:27:44
  Speaker 22: So it falls into jar jareds a young player, you know,
• 4:27:46
  Speaker 22: stepped in this year his first year to start in
• 4:27:49
  Speaker 22: the SEC.
• 4:27:51
  Speaker 1: Had a good year obviously.
• 4:27:53
  Speaker 22: You know, everybody can point to some of the testing athletically,
• 4:27:56
  Speaker 22: what's in his body, what he's capable of, and I
• 4:27:58
  Speaker 22: think he's a player that's it's just kind of scratching
• 4:28:01
  Speaker 22: the surface. Speaking to the guys on our team, you know,
• 4:28:04
  Speaker 22: we have a bunch of guys or a handful of
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  Speaker 22: guys that you know will compete at that center position,
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  Speaker 22: and I.
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  Speaker 2: Think Jared falls into that mix.
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  Speaker 22: I think anytime you're you're trying to do this in
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  Speaker 22: the draft, you're all you're always trying to create competition,
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  Speaker 22: and I think if we don't do that, then it's
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  Speaker 22: a flow on our part to create as much competition
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  Speaker 22: as possible across the board. And I think we just
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  Speaker 22: see that there's a lot of upside to Jared's game.
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  Speaker 22: We have some veteran guys that you know, we just
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  Speaker 22: envisioned those guys competing, and as you guys know, with
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  Speaker 22: coach ray Wood, I really think the way it should be,
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  Speaker 22: competition across the board is what's going to bring out
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  Speaker 22: the best of all of us, and I think he'll
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  Speaker 22: just add to that room.
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  Speaker 8: Does he have it? Do you think he has any
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  Speaker 8: flexibility to play some guard or do you guys see
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  Speaker 8: him as a center only prospect?
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  Speaker 22: He has some experience playing guard. I think again that's
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  Speaker 22: one of those kind of similar to the receiver part.
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  Speaker 22: Anytime we, you know, try to take offensive lineman, you
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  Speaker 22: would love the versatility, right. You don't want as many
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  Speaker 22: guys being stuck in the one spot. Whether that's how
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  Speaker 22: it factors into your game day stuff, how you can
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  Speaker 22: manipulate stuff in practice, how you can work through injuries.
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  Speaker 22: Jared has experienced playing guard, obviously started this year playing center,
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  Speaker 22: So I think we would look at both those things
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  Speaker 22: and wind up doing ultimately what's.
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  Speaker 2: Best for the to get the best five.
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  Speaker 4: And his rotation how we see fit. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 4: we'll let you get back to work. I know you've
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  Speaker 4: got to restack the board, get ready for tomorrow. Tomorrow's
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  Speaker 4: all defense, right, I'm only.
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  Speaker 22: Well, yeah, you want to just counter that by saying
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  Speaker 22: defense right, right? You know it is, though, Tomorrow's exciting,
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  Speaker 22: you know what. I think everybody does get caught up into,
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  Speaker 22: you know, in the first round, and rightfully so, and
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  Speaker 22: then tonight and I think, you know, fortunate for me.
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  Speaker 22: I think this is my twenty sixth draft, and I
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  Speaker 22: think the fun part is tomorrow. And not only is
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  Speaker 22: it with the draft selections, it's it's what happens after
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  Speaker 22: the draft. There's an organic part discounting that happens after
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  Speaker 22: the draft, and there's a lot of work by our staff.
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  Speaker 22: I've been impressed with with the college staff pro staff
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  Speaker 22: over my couple of months here, the time they put in,
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  Speaker 22: and just really excited to see them kind of go
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  Speaker 22: to work tomorrow through the post draft and that's where you.
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  Speaker 4: Can make a difference.
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  Speaker 22: And I'm excited to be able to do that tomorrow
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  Speaker 22: with this group.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Ryan, thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Have a great night, Okayry Ryan Counton, Vice President of
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  Speaker 4: Player Personnel for the twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Sixth draft too.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well you're just like Ryan Cowton.
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  Speaker 5: I don't look as young as he does. That I'll
• 4:30:26
  Speaker 5: tell you that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he was three years old start at the Herald.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I didn't count those drafts. Okay, yeah, that
• 4:30:33
  Speaker 5: would be like thirty six drafts if I counted the Herald.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that, you know, your career at the
• 4:30:37
  Speaker 4: Herald preceded all this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, So.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So that was good to hear from him.
• 4:30:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I've I've been impressed with him. You know,
• 4:30:45
  Speaker 8: I got to talk to him at the Senior Bowl
• 4:30:47
  Speaker 8: for the first time, and I think him and Elliott
• 4:30:50
  Speaker 8: Wolfer both kind of cut from the same cloth as
• 4:30:53
  Speaker 8: like true scouts like him talking about undrafted free agency
• 4:30:56
  Speaker 8: is his favorite part, right, Like that that that's a
• 4:30:58
  Speaker 8: true scout, Like these guys like that element of it,
• 4:31:01
  Speaker 8: I think more than anything of just going on the
• 4:31:04
  Speaker 8: road and scouting players and stacking boards and you know,
• 4:31:07
  Speaker 8: finding those hidden gems. So it's cool to hear hear
• 4:31:11
  Speaker 8: what he has to say about that element of it.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So the Patriots book had it's late. The
• 4:31:18
  Speaker 4: Patriots ended up with three players tonight. They got a
• 4:31:21
  Speaker 4: running back, they got a wide receiver, and they got
• 4:31:24
  Speaker 4: a center. Tomorrow is the rest of the draft rounds four, five, six,
• 4:31:28
  Speaker 4: and seven. We will be on at noon tomorrow for
• 4:31:32
  Speaker 4: at least a couple hours. These guys eventually have to
• 4:31:35
  Speaker 4: do some other work, you know, start writing about these
• 4:31:38
  Speaker 4: guys sleep. Yeah, yeah, but we will be back at noon.
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