Latest / GAS MONEY / The Reel Talk Podcast Episode 002 | The Sequel !!
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- 0:06SPEAKER_00: Quiet on the set.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Welcome to another installment of the Real Talk Podcast.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, AG.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: GR Taylor.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're in the building again, guys.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: We're here.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: You know, it's a lot to discuss.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Give it to you live and direct.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: And uh, Mr.
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: Taylor, how you been though, bro?
- 0:23SPEAKER_01: I've been good.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: Tired, working, but also successful, blessed, and healthy.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Can't complain.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: What about yourself?
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: You're like uh Superman, you know.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Very um modest, modest during the day.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Then you get into the booth and you turn into the podcaster of the year.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm good.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Wait, wait, what's Superman's uh alter ego enemy?
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: Bizarro?
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: Um nah, it's um the rich dude, the ball headed dude.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: He has like a there's like another Oh, um, yeah, Bizarro Superman.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Sometimes.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: Oh, you get like that too?
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Ain't nobody perfect.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: You get the gray skin?
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: Not the gray skin.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: Ashy.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: Come on.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: No.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: You just told on yourself, bro.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: It's okay to be a little ashy.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: Shea butter always works.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: It's okay to be a little ashy.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: But yeah, shout out Bizarro Superman too.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um, you know, we want to give you guys some really good content today.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: And uh, I want to start off with, you know, where we kind of left off yesterday.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: Well, not yesterday, but last pod.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Um, you really wanted to talk about Fallout.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: We didn't get to that.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: And I think you're you were right.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: It just proves how underrated the show is that I didn't have it on the docket, and it's probably one of the better shows that has come out.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: Um, I want to pitch you a hardball question off rip.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: Better video game adaptation Fallout or The Last of Us?
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: Season one.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: So all of Fallout that we have so far versus just might not be fair, versus that one season, the first season of The Last of Us.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: Talk to me.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Because I have this thing, I have HBO Supremacy.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: Understood.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say Fallout in terms of its actual world translation, and it's not done yet, but it's incorporating a lot of the elements from the game, which is a very vast world.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: Oh no, that's like that's some there's levels to nerd them, right?
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: To me, um, Fallout is you really don't get much nerdier than that.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: It's probably like right below like Lord of the Rings.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Star Wars, yeah, yeah.
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but Fallout is right there, like it's some super nerdy shit.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: Like, I think the first or the second game, one of the games, there's really no combat.
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: It was just more exploration and like button clicking, as opposed to like you, you know, when you want to sell records, you gotta have the song for the ladies.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: So they started doing some, yeah, we need combat.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: He got crazy, yeah.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I definitely hear you on that in terms of the world building.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: But I will say, in terms of the film aspect, as in the execution and the actors, The Last of Us got it.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: So it's hard to really pick one, but it depends on what you like.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: If you're really filmed, then The Last of Us.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: So I would say The Last of Us had better shots.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: Like the cinematography was Chef's Kiss, but you can make the argument that they had more to work with.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: The the the scenery, yeah.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Fallout was kind of one look, you know, for the most part.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: It's desolate, destroyed, everything is bad.
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: And you need a lot of CGI for exactly, yeah.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: With yeah, it's more practical stuff with uh The Last of Us.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, so walk us through Fallout.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: Let's let's let's do it.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: So, number one, you have to have had play have played the games to really enjoy and appreciate it.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: That's one thing.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: I disagree with you right there.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: My girl did not play a single iota, and she likes Fallout.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna say more than I just as much as I do.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: She's like, yo, that white girl with the big eyes.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: Like, what's gonna happen with her?
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: All right, so ready.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: I I hear that.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: I like that.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: Okay, go ahead.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: You're good, yeah.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: For me, as someone who played the games, to see it come to life and them to execute it in such a way that makes you go, oh wow, they they're they're adding in the death clause, adding in the zombies, they're not the zombies, but the you know the pharaohs, the ghouls.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're adding in the brotherhood, all these different things that you experience in the game, you're seeing it come to life.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: And then they give you two very intriguing um characters.
- 4:12SPEAKER_01: And this is another reason why um I liked Fallout a little better than The Last of Us, but I can see The Last of Us being better overall in terms of film, is they gave you two unknown actors.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 4:23SPEAKER_01: Two main leads of Lucy and Maximus.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: That's my favorite character.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: That's Cuba Goodling Jr.'s son.
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: It's gotta be.
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: It is Cuba Gooding Jr.
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: That's his son, a little bit of Jonathan Majors, because he's this guy's he's very ranged.
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, he's dope.
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: Um, but they they start you off with these two characters.
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: Um, they start you off with Lucy, um, I think in the vault, and they give you this, she gives she does a great job of depicting a very wide-eyed.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: Oh, literally.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: Lit-eyed.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Her eyes are massive.
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Her mouth is fully small.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but she's about it.
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: Like interesting face.
- 4:54SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite scenes is when she's just like okie dokie and just starts going to it with uh her new husband or whatever, right?
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: And then it turns to this big fight.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: So it shows you the that she is, she's uh, you know, she what's the word for it?
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: Very naive and yeah, the most naive character I've probably seen in a long time.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: But she got some edge turns.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, but she's trained well, right?
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: She understands her world.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: And then just to go a little further, you see the progression of she adapts very fast.
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: And reluctantly so.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: So imagine if she wasn't reluctant to the world that she was in, she probably would have been one of the leaders of one of these factions.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: That's how dope of a character she is, but she's very adapts quick and still finds a way to keep the naivete somehow.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: It's the balance, yeah.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: That's the part that brings you back to the game because your character comes fresh out the vault.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you are literally fresh out the vault when you turn the game on.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: Especially if it's your first fallout.
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: I think my first fallout um was I think it was New Vegas or Fallout 3.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Can't remember which one came first.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: I was like, this is some nerd shit.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: I'm a nerd.
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: I have to I have to know some Fallout stuff.
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: I get on the game, I'm like, vault.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: Like, how do I get out?
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: Because the game don't really hold your hand.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: Nope.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: And you know, I want to talk about that later about gaming in general, but you once you get out the vault, like it's cockroaches the size of dogs.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: Everything's attacking you.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the cool part though is that they have the VAT system, I think that's what it's called, where it could kind of slow down time.
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: You can kind of take a breather.
- 6:24SPEAKER_00: Okay, this is gonna do this much damage, it's gonna do that much damage.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: And then you you see how it goes.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: And the target's still moving, actually.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it does a little bit of uh the the turn-based combat, and it also incorporated the like you can kind of play the game however you want.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: And that's what's dope about you know RPG games.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: So yeah, definitely that.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: So then uh talk to me about um the ghoul, his character.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: The ghoul.
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: And the flashing back and stuff like that.
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: So, spoiler alert for those who played the games and watched the show, um, he's actually the the mysterious stranger.
- 6:54SPEAKER_01: That's who he is.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: That's him.
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: That's why he wears the trench coat and just shows up and helps you out of nowhere.
- 6:59SPEAKER_01: That's who that is.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: I never put that together.
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: That's who they the inspiration for that character is.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: The ghoul's character is great, and I love, again, back to the character development of these three people Maximus, the Ghoul, and Lucy.
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: All of them have this conflict.
- 7:11SPEAKER_01: That's great writing for the character, for the actor.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: Because there's two sides.
- 7:16SPEAKER_01: So the ghoul, obviously, when once upon a time was the sweetest guy, war veteran, um, actor, yeah, Hollywood, father, husband.
- 7:25SPEAKER_01: He was one of those guys, and now he is literally physically and mentally a monster.
- 7:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: That character's redemption arc from going from that guy.
- 7:33SPEAKER_01: We want to know how he became this guy, and now he's returning to that guy by season two, which is absolutely amazing.
- 7:39SPEAKER_01: Great execution of the actor.
- 7:41SPEAKER_01: His hairline is crazy, but he he makes me forget that every time he gets on the screen and doesn't.
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: Goggins?
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: I think his last name is Goggins.
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: But also, I'm seeing him everywhere now because he did such a phenomenal job in that um that show.
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: But the character of the ghoul is very complex and I I love it.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: This is great.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: Um Black Wife, mixed kids.
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: Alright, so I know I'm seeing that theme a lot.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: We're gonna try to do that.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: I don't have a problem with it.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: I don't have a problem with it.
- 8:06SPEAKER_01: It's just being shoved down our throats, pause, but it's just like you see it everywhere.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: One battle after another.
- 8:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's a it's a thing.
- 8:13SPEAKER_01: And I the question is always why.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why is a white man?
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: Why we why we can't flip it?
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: Listen, um third dimension.
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: Just a little bit.
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: Listen, just a little bit.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Follow me, people.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: He's about to go crazy.
- 8:26SPEAKER_01: Not for long.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: But follow me, people.
- 8:28SPEAKER_01: Listen.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: They are propagandizing us to really for black women to divest from the black.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: They know that word.
- 8:36SPEAKER_01: Look it up when you get a chance.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: There's been a lot of that, but what they don't tell you is the mortality rate of black women who are in those relationships.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: And they also don't tell you the uh the rate of divorce of mixed race or uh, what do you call it?
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: Interracial.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: Interracial relationships, specifically marriage.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: My man said mixed race, like we in the 30s.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: Listen, but um, they're pushing that agenda to destroy our community.
- 8:58SPEAKER_01: But I'm gonna leave it at that.
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: I don't want to go too far.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, don't go, come on.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: But we need the white viewers too.
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: I have people view podcasts too.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's not an attack on that.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, I'm just best.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like, listen, but why do you keep pushing this?
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: I'm sure that people on the other side might be a little uncomfortable with it too.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: Not necessarily uncomfortable with it, but it's like, what are we what are we pushing and why?
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: Also, I want to say this show is it's almost like they're mocking certain mentalities.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 9:23SPEAKER_01: Like I'll give you an example.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: Like, like with Lucy, right?
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: She's so naive to the point where you're like, what is wrong with her?
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: Why is she this dumb?
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: Whereas Maximus, in his situation, he's also adapting.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: But he's adapting a lot faster.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: He's more likely to become a killer in easy.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: Like Lucy in that situation with um where he was with Knight Thaddeus.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: Thaddeus.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: Played by um, I forget his name.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: Oh, hold on.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: This is what I'm supposed to say.
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: The ultimate New Yorker.
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm talking about.
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: He's a Jew?
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Um with a Jew first.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: I'm just trying to remember his name.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: Higher learning.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: He was in.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: He was Rainy, I think, those character.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: I can't remember this guy's name.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: I feel bad.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: I should know his name.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: Mark something?
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: No.
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: Never mind.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: He'll come to her.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: You know exactly who I'm talking about.
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: But if she was in that situation, she would have died.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: That would have been her story.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: Because she would have tried to help him.
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: That you guy, the you guys were a mutated bear, would have killed her.
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: Whereas Maximus not only was capable of killing, killed, and then looked at the guy and said, You're gonna turn me in and try to get me killed?
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: I gotta smoke you.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: And this is an opportunity for me to finally get what I always wanted.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: So the Maximus story is so dope because he came from, and this is spoilers, obviously.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: He came from a society that was rebuilt inside of this desolate place.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: His dad fixed the water, they finally got all the radiation out of the water.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: Comes from a lineage of genius.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he beautiful black family.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: You saw it.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, wait, we don't smoke that?
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: Okay, I see what y'all doing.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: Pack them up.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so they had a thriving community and they were about to rebuild civilization, and you know, it got bombed.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: And we figure out why that happens later on.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: We can get to that when we talk about Lucy's uh storyline a little bit more.
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: And the person that saved him, or the people that saved him was the Brotherhood.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: And he the it's the knight, it's the power armor.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: So he's just like, Yeah, I aspire to this because not only was it my salvation, but deep down inside, I want to do that for other people.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: Like I'm happy somebody was there.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: And it was just such a heartbreaking scene when his parents uh put him in the fridge or freezer and they knew they were gonna die.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: And as a parent myself, you always think what you would do in those situations, and instinctually you say, Oh, yeah, I'll sacrifice my life for my kid, but you don't truly know unless you're in the moment.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: So it was just so dope seeing his dad go from we think just some like oh nerdy guy that fixed the water to no and powerful father, and he he didn't give like not not no disrespect to the to women or anything out there, but he made the decision for them.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: He told he was like to make a logical decision, yeah.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: Like, son, you go in there, and there was no there's no debate.
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: Like two of us can't fit.
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: He's the smallest, it's you, your he's the he's the legacy, so yeah, we we lived our lives.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: So that was a really powerful scene, and it just shows you the character that Maximus is and like why the power armor itself means so much to him.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: And then it's so cool how the power armor is essentially the the best thing in the game.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: Like it's the best item.
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, some people just don't use it, it's like almost a cheat code.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: That's how powerful it is.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: So they they rather run around and you know find different classes to set up.
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: But once you get the power armor in the game, it's pretty much like nothing can hurt me.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: Like Death Claw, let's let's duke it out.
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but before that, you hear Death Claw like You gotta run.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta run.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: Like we gotta, yeah, it's over.
- 12:39SPEAKER_01: You know, you gotta take out the missile on the quick though.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, uh that the acting in that scene of him putting his son in in that fridge.
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: Again, I wish I knew these actors' names, but him, the father, oh my god, bro.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: I don't have kids.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: And I got hit.
- 12:55SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not gonna lie, my eyes was watery.
- 12:57SPEAKER_01: I was like, this is crazy.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: For this, was it less than 30 seconds?
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was a quick scene, too.
- 13:01SPEAKER_01: That's called acting.
- 13:02SPEAKER_01: So much was done in that.
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: The delivery was amazing.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: I felt that.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: I was like, wow, you gotta you got built a world of peace, of safety.
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: You have a family, things are going good, and it's over.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you don't have time to process nothing.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: He didn't even have the time to think about, damn, we just did this.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, to run to the house.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: It was like, nah, gotta preserve him.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: Nuke inbound.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: Sick.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: Save the kid, and that's it.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: Great acting again.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: Shout out um that guy.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it his name.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we gotta come in with a little bit of a guy.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, so um, so how how uh let's get back to Lucy's character.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: So in the the most recent season, she's tracked down her father because that was like the whole thing was like, what's she gonna do?
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: It's like when you know you you watch a dog chase a car.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah what does the dog do when it catches the car?
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: What's he gonna do with the car?
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: So Lucy catches up with her father, and we get a whole like info dump on why these things have happened.
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: Like everybody's stories are now intertwined.
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: So Lucy wants to catch up with her father, obviously, because uh he killed her mom, and she wants to know why.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: Like that I think that's a very good question.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: And the ghoul spends the whole season, the trek, finding the father, like poking and prodding her.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you gonna do when you get find him?
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like what happens?
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: And that's the ultimate question.
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: That's like just life in general.
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: What happens when you make the money?
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what happens when you get the job?
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: What's it all for?
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like well, what are you gonna do?
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what are you gonna do?
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's just so dope.
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: Like the writing you say, like, that's a question you can ask anybody about anything ever in life.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you gonna do when you get that achievement?
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: Like, is job done?
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Is job job finished?
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: So she um, you know, we get the death claw scenes, we get the the and then we get the the lore of the death claw where America was going to war with China finally, and my man is up in Alaska defending Alaska, and the death claw actually saves him.
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it kills all the Chinese are uh invasion invaders, and so is the are the death claws a property of the US government?
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: Is that what they're implying?
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: I think they are.
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: They said that it was like a side project, but it's definitely the US is somewhere.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting that they use reptiles and they said they're highly intelligent with all the stuff that we discuss nowadays.
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: But you know, again, we'll leave that for another time.
- 15:15SPEAKER_00: Then uh we also um when um Lucy and the ghoul, you know, they they end up flipping on each other because the father gives them a uh ultimatum of hey, you want your family back?
- 15:27SPEAKER_00: Talking about the ghoul because that's his ultimate journey as well, is getting his family back.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: And then we go through his past and we see that, you know, his wife was the one that kicked off doomsday, but then we figure out that it really wasn't her.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: There was another, it's just so many factions of house.
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like and then we figured out that he didn't have all like it's not him either.
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's the the the the president is involved, so we still don't have a definite answer.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: But the whole season was building up to his wife did it, his wife did it, black woman, black woman, by the way.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: Um his wife's his wife to me.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah, his wife uh destroyed the the whole world.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then we come to find out that there's bigger players and she kind of just She's just a tool.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's just a tool in this whole thing.
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: We still don't have the answers, but he wants to get back to his family, and the only way to do that is to sell out Lucy, who he's been on the journey with.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: They get into the little the little fight, he Lucy gets upper hand, he he tranquilizes her, she hits him with the super atomic fist, knocks him out the window.
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: Violates boy, because he was Yep, but who saves him?
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: He gets saved by one of those um the mutants.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: This is uh this is the first time seeing the mutant in the show.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: So the mutant, yeah.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the super mutant drags him back, basically says we're Ken, heals him with like this eradicated stick rock thing, heals him.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: So they're like, hey, there's a war coming, and believe it or not, the ghouls are Ken.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: So it's the ghouls and the super mutants, I guess, are gonna team up against the brotherhood, all humans we don't know.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: The Legion.
- 16:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we don't know.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Is it all humans against like because the humans aren't on the same team?
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: Like, look how many different humans facts even the brotherhood itself going on Maximus' storyline, they have they're fractured.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: They had my dude, um, the Indian guy from uh the Marvel the Marvel show, uh Eternals.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Uh he yeah, I forgot his name, Kamar or something.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: He was he he did a a little You said Kamar or something?
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: I think so.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: I think that's actually I'm not even trying to be funny.
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: I think that's his actual I think that's his name.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: But Kamar's something, yeah.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: We we're gonna get better at this, trust me.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so he showed us like how the brotherhood is is is fractured.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: So that's another storyline that we have to kind of look at.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: Like, are we gonna have a total war between the humans and the mutants and the ghouls?
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: And then which side of our are our heroes gonna go on?
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: Because if you're the ghoul, Lucy just betrayed you.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: You finally think you're gonna find your family, they're not there, but then you get a note that says they could be somewhere else.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: Colorado, possibly.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: And do you even have time for this war?
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: Do you owe this super mutant a debt?
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Is the super mutant gonna come back for his debt?
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: Like, hey, nah, I saved you.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: So you we need the numbers.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: You're actual, you could probably control these other feral things because once you go on feral, he's the only one that we've seen that has survived this.
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: Low-key um um Maximus's boy that is now turning into a ghoul.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: They say he's something else.
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: He's not a oh, so he's uh whatever he got is not ghouls.
- 18:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, so he's about to be a whole other thing.
- 18:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he has pieces of his body falling and he's still functioning.
- 18:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like that's what's gonna happen.
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: I don't know what he is, but yeah, so it's it's a ton of storylines going on, and we get the realization, and this is what ties everything together, that once again Lucy's dad was behind the bombing of Maximus' hometown.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: And what was his goal?
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: I I I don't know.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes, yeah.
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: Yes, that was his thing.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: Put everybody like sheep.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: And exactly, but then it it it gives you again with the writing on the show, it gives you a good question.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: Once he started putting these people under his control, life was kind of good.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: Some of these people are clawing to like, hey, I don't want to go back outside.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like this, I want this.
- 19:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're all at peace with each other, everything.
- 19:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like is that like a a commentary on society?
- 19:07SPEAKER_00: Like, are we all just all better off a sheep?
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: But this whole show is a commentary on society, and it's it's it's so that's what made me so intrigued by it.
- 19:13SPEAKER_01: I'm like, aside from it being an adaptation from a game, like what they did with the show.
- 19:19SPEAKER_01: I was like, you guys are just telling everything.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it was great.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: So what do you expect from next season?
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: Do we lose one of our three characters?
- 19:31SPEAKER_01: Season three, these are my predictions and expectations.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: The super mutants, you know, kind of step out into the the light.
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: There will be a war that begins, and the super mutants will be the reason why it breaks up.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: Um there will be a big fissure and a big divide, a conflict between Lucy and uh Maximus.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: Black and white.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, black and white another, exactly.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: This is the time the guy's black, so I'm cool.
- 19:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but yeah, there's gonna be a fissure between the two of them that's gonna cause them to, you know, divide again and make the big sides.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: Um the little brother, I forget his name.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: But uh oh yeah, the dude that he was on Disney Channel.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was on some show.
- 20:10SPEAKER_01: He has a weird face as well.
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a little bro, a little ratty, but he's cool.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um he he's gonna have a complex journey as well because he's discovering things about his father as well.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: I think he's gonna end up on the opposite side of Lucy.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: Oh, you think he's gonna be on the oh no, dad's right.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: These people are monsters and they need to be controlled?
- 20:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: I think he turns into a big bad at some point.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: I could be wrong about that, but that's my prediction because it's the path he's going on, seeing that the same people from the old world tried to kill him.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:37SPEAKER_00: It's just what's going on in the vault?
- 20:41SPEAKER_00: We didn't really touch on that.
- 20:42SPEAKER_01: Well, oh right.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Shorty from Canada.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a whole beast.
- 20:48SPEAKER_01: She said, yo.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everybody got smoke with America, man.
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: Another theme that yo, everyone has smoke with America, 100%.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: And another theme that we witnessed in that whole vault um situation was how she was treating her husband?
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: Her husband.
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 21:01SPEAKER_01: That's a play on what's going on today.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: She was like, yo, like, you're my wife.
- 21:05SPEAKER_01: We're getting married.
- 21:06SPEAKER_01: I didn't know we were getting married.
- 21:07SPEAKER_01: Well, we're getting married.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: So I was like, yo, this isn't, she wasn't messing around.
- 21:10SPEAKER_01: She wasn't.
- 21:11SPEAKER_01: So they're they're kind of also hinting at you know what's happened to society and why and and also I think they're predicting also what's gonna happen to correct it because the whole vault turned on her at some point.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: But um, her character's a monster.
- 21:23SPEAKER_01: The other lady, Betty, who's in control of Vault 33, I believe it is.
- 21:28SPEAKER_01: Um I think she actually had it had a um uh a positive, you know, a positive intention for the vault.
- 21:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: She wants people to survive, she wants everyone to be good.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: But the problem is she didn't she wasn't in the known.
- 21:40SPEAKER_01: Remember, she was a secretary.
- 21:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she had no idea what was going on.
- 21:42SPEAKER_01: She didn't know anyone.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: She lucked up into the position that she's in.
- 21:45SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: By who she knew.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:47SPEAKER_01: Now she's in this position and it's like, yo, what's going on?
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: You don't know anything.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: Nah, if it there goes again.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
- 21:53SPEAKER_01: And they're playing on it and they're also showing you an overarching female.
- 21:56SPEAKER_01: But with the vote, I think it falls apart at some point.
- 21:59SPEAKER_01: There's already A breach in 31, I believe.
- 22:02SPEAKER_00: Do you think they all get out?
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: Or do you think they have the opportunity to get out?
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: Some people just choose to stay.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: Do you think we see new vaults?
- 22:11SPEAKER_00: Because that's I that's the only thing I I would say that was missing from the season was that we didn't get but outside of the super duper vault, the executive vault, we didn't really get because that's another thing about Fallout that's dope.
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: It's like just traversing the world, you find these random vaults.
- 22:23SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 22:23SPEAKER_00: And they did that in season one really well.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: They had that weird mutant vault where they were working on mutants, and I think that might be a little bit of a foreshadowing for where these mutants come from.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I want to see more vaults.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: I want to see these weird vaults, you know.
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: And each one has a different theme, like you said.
- 22:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like so.
- 22:37SPEAKER_01: What are they doing in these other vaults?
- 22:38SPEAKER_01: That's what that's what I'm remembering.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: They were selling vaults to like different companies.
- 22:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so they're showing you again how big um big companies work in.
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I say this all the time, like, and then this is just my personal opinion.
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: I wish I had some glasses to throw on, but I feel like in my lifetime, America has been we're under uh oligarchy, but it's not military, right?
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: It's tech.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: Like we are run by five tech companies.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: That's who our leaders are, it's technology companies.
- 23:06SPEAKER_00: You know, in the Fallout's world, it's more it was more of you know, like military stuff, like war stuff.
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: Now, in our world, it's tech.
- 23:13SPEAKER_00: Like, who if you look at who really makes the decisions in America, it's these tech companies.
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: That's that's who it is.
- 23:19SPEAKER_00: So it's definitely a really good allegory to like how the world is today.
- 23:23SPEAKER_00: And hopefully we don't end up in a barren wasteland one day living with vaults.
- 23:27SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know about you, I don't know if I get in the vault.
- 23:29SPEAKER_00: I I'm not big time enough.
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: Um they not let me though.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: I'm about to be outside.
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: I'm definitely not getting in the vault.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm about to join the Legion.
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: All right, they're crucifying people.
- 23:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Legion is wild.
- 23:41SPEAKER_00: I might join the Brotherhood.
- 23:42SPEAKER_00: Macaulay Coke.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: That's Macaulay Coke.
- 23:44SPEAKER_00: Yes, that is him.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: Yo, yeah, this is a great show.
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm telling you, real good cast.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: The world is dope.
- 23:51SPEAKER_00: They have the video game as a backdrop, and so they don't have the problem of like it's just Fallout has so much lore.
- 23:58SPEAKER_00: A lot.
- 23:59SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
- 24:00SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Maximus, bro.
- 24:01SPEAKER_01: That character, his journey to me was it was so tough.
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: What do you what do you see uh Maximus ended up on?
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: Like, does he take over the brotherhood?
- 24:10SPEAKER_01: Maximus has he might be he might end up um raising up his own militia as a leader because he has the ability as a fighter.
- 24:19SPEAKER_01: He's just he remember he beat up that dude who was like Oh, he won V1 dude.
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: Let's just do a bear back.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was crazy.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: That was crazy.
- 24:26SPEAKER_01: He smoked him.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, reluctantly too.
- 24:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he killed uh Zayn, I believe his name is.
- 24:31SPEAKER_01: That's the uh Kumar's character.
- 24:33SPEAKER_01: Um hit him with the hammer.
- 24:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, killed him.
- 24:35SPEAKER_01: Um he fought Death Claws, numerous Deathclaws.
- 24:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dole.
- 24:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, in some armor he wasn't familiar with.
- 24:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dole.
- 24:42SPEAKER_01: This guy is nice with it.
- 24:43SPEAKER_01: And then on top of that, as a leader, he's very inspirational.
- 24:45SPEAKER_01: He's the one who found the the relic, and it's just he has he has the natural leadership qualities to be a leader, but I think he makes an ultimate choice in favor of you know Lucy.
- 24:55SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's chasing tail.
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: That's the fall of every man.
- 24:58SPEAKER_01: They have to put that in there.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: Gotcha, gotcha.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Even the ghoul is chasing tail ultimately.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: We get back to the brown sugar.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what it's all about.
- 25:06SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 25:07SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um, yeah, I definitely agree with you on those takes.
- 25:10SPEAKER_00: Um, anybody else from missing a fallout?
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: Um I'm sure we're missing a lot of characters.
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but the leader of the brotherhood.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: They they they mix um military with religious aspects to control the people.
- 25:21SPEAKER_00: It's and you saw those little Easter eggs when they they found that uh that base and they they they they found like aliens and shit in there and they just didn't care because the world was over.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they won the gun.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they was like, This is cool.
- 25:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought it was the car.
- 25:34SPEAKER_01: They blew the car.
- 25:34SPEAKER_01: It was a vintage.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, like they were just like, ah, cool, who cares?
- 25:37SPEAKER_00: Guns, guns, guns, guns, yeah.
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: It just showed like how like aliens are who cares?
- 25:40SPEAKER_00: Like, we're the world is over.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: It's allegory.
- 25:43SPEAKER_00: That's us today.
- 25:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: They literally like what do you think is happening with this alien thing just real fast in our in our actual world?
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: Let's let's let's step out of our vault.
- 25:52SPEAKER_00: Okay, and I I'm seeing a lot of stuff, they're slowly normalizing alien talk.
- 25:59SPEAKER_00: Because 10 years ago, you even mentioned the word alien.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: Like the government could not even say the word alien.
- 26:04SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 26:04SPEAKER_00: Like that's that guy can't work for the government anymore.
- 26:06SPEAKER_00: He said the word alien, like he's out.
- 26:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something's wrong with him.
- 26:09SPEAKER_00: Here's your little box.
- 26:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, now they they like Trump did the Space Force.
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: Like, what do we need a Space Force for?
- 26:15SPEAKER_00: And then um, I think uh I don't know if it's true because you know everything on the internet now.
- 26:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's kind of but uh I think uh the US government like bought the domain for uh aliens.gov or something like that, some weird domain that had aliens in it.
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: So what what what do you think is happening?
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: I think uh number one and what are aliens?
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: What are yeah I got you.
- 26:36SPEAKER_01: I thought you wasn't going there, but I was.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we can.
- 26:38SPEAKER_00: Real fast.
- 26:39SPEAKER_01: Number one, you cannot give all of the information to people at one time, so you have to slowly roll it out.
- 26:45SPEAKER_01: You know, it's kind of like what we talked about before the frog in the pot.
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: You gotta slowly turn the heat up so you cook it over time versus cooking it immediately.
- 26:51SPEAKER_01: So, number one, we're aliens.
- 26:53SPEAKER_01: This has clearly been classified information by the government forever.
- 26:57SPEAKER_01: So they already knew about quote unquote aliens.
- 26:59SPEAKER_01: But the rollout now, I think, is to prepare us for a uh an event that will occur from the sky, whether it's actual aliens, whether it's a hologram, because we don't have the technology to do that.
- 27:11SPEAKER_01: That drone technology is crazy.
- 27:13SPEAKER_01: Crazy.
- 27:13SPEAKER_01: We have drones that can sit in the sky, and we have we know for a fact we have AI, and then we also have powerful.
- 27:18SPEAKER_01: Like, if you ever seen a Coachella um concert where they did like Tupac, they can project these.
- 27:23SPEAKER_00: Hologram shit is crazy.
- 27:24SPEAKER_01: 100%.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: So we don't even know what's real anymore when we see it with our own eyes, let alone on the internet.
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: So I think they're preparing us for something that will lead us or push us as a people to agree to give up more of our rights.
- 27:36SPEAKER_01: That's what I think.
- 27:37SPEAKER_01: And aliens makes the most sense.
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: They've been probing us, or not only probing us, but preparing us for decades with different films.
- 27:42SPEAKER_01: With this Independence Day, Men in Black, everything always leads back to aliens.
- 27:48SPEAKER_00: He's in Baltimore.
- 27:51SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're right.
- 27:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that guy.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: Listen, is he is is is he unlike third dimension real quick.
- 28:00SPEAKER_01: Listen, um, I think it's the CIA has a vested interest in the entertainment industry.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: Of course.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: They actually put pour money into it.
- 28:09SPEAKER_01: So there's a reason why the government has a hand in film.
- 28:13SPEAKER_01: So if you're an actor who commands the most money, box.
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, he literally is box office.
- 28:21SPEAKER_01: You gotta be, you know, connected in some way.
- 28:23SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying he's doing it on purpose, but I'm saying that he might know some things and they're like, we're gonna use this guy, he's the most popular, to get these films into people's minds.
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: Think about Independence Day.
- 28:33SPEAKER_01: Enemies from the sky united the world in an effort to stop them.
- 28:36SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 28:37SPEAKER_01: That's a good way to get the world, you know, because right now we're in chaos.
- 28:40SPEAKER_01: You can get the world to come together to fight whatever this threat is or deal with this threat, and then after that, we're like, we like this one world thing.
- 28:46SPEAKER_01: Let's all stay together and let's agree to you know, one leader, one way of life.
- 28:51SPEAKER_01: Benjamin I don't know.
- 28:55SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you say and effectively putting that little fallout thing on the background.
- 29:00SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's the that's the hat.
- 29:02SPEAKER_01: Well, that's actually happening now with social media because when I you know what's funny, I start to realize how many people are now quote unquote waking up.
- 29:08SPEAKER_01: And it's because we're all our algorithms are merging.
- 29:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so they're saying neither do I, because a lot of people aren't really awake, they're just being told what to believe.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's becoming popular to be conspiracy theorists.
- 29:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's never a good thing.
- 29:21SPEAKER_01: And I know it's not a good thing because people aren't taking action, they're just talking about it.
- 29:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's just no action.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: You know, it's so that's where we are.
- 29:29SPEAKER_01: There it's that's where I think the alien stuff leads to, honestly, is control.
- 29:32SPEAKER_00: All right, all right, let's uh let's let's let's let's move on.
- 29:36SPEAKER_00: Let's move on a little bit.
- 29:37SPEAKER_00: Uh, since we're in uh video game world, right?
- 29:39SPEAKER_00: I was asking myself, are video are you a gamer, would you say?
- 29:44SPEAKER_01: Not like I used to.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: I gotta be honest.
- 29:46SPEAKER_01: Like I just life has become a video game.
- 29:49SPEAKER_01: Let's put it that way.
- 29:50SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm one of those guys that I think I'm gonna play video games until I'm 100 years old.
- 29:54SPEAKER_00: Like I don't think I'm ever gonna stop playing video games.
- 29:56SPEAKER_00: I love video games.
- 29:57SPEAKER_00: But the problem for me is I think video games are dying.
- 30:02SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 30:02SPEAKER_00: I genuinely think that video games are dying.
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: Um, the consoles keep coming out.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: I actually have invested in uh PC gaming because that's how much I'm like, I spent like an absorbent amount of money on a PC, not gonna lie to you.
- 30:15SPEAKER_00: Um, but I just want to I need more games to play.
- 30:18SPEAKER_00: Like you know, like where are all the games at?
- 30:20SPEAKER_00: I have I'm a Sony diehard, I've never been an Xbox guy.
- 30:22SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 30:23SPEAKER_00: I dabble with Nintendo because Nintendo got the Pokemon stuff, so I I gotta have a Nintendo on deck.
- 30:27SPEAKER_00: Nintendo.
- 30:28SPEAKER_00: No, Nintendo it has low-key has a monopoly, but people don't want to pay attention to it.
- 30:31SPEAKER_00: They can just release whatever they want.
- 30:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they can.
- 30:33SPEAKER_00: They literally can just release whatever they want.
- 30:34SPEAKER_00: They they're the most like innovative, like people steal their their stuff all the time.
- 30:39SPEAKER_00: They just don't you know claim like the whole we you thing.
- 30:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, like they did a lot of cool stuff.
- 30:45SPEAKER_00: But um, I I I think video games might be dying, and that's a very sad thing for me because I haven't.
- 30:52SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like how I feel about music.
- 30:54SPEAKER_00: Wait, what makes you think it's dying though?
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: Like when's like what it's like we're playing the same games all over again.
- 31:00SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm waiting for new Call of Duty and there's no there's no innovation.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: It's like we're gonna fight this war again.
- 31:06SPEAKER_00: Like, I used to play when the new Call of Duty came out, before I even touched online, I used to play the story because I'm like, yo, like Modern Warfare 2 had like the greatest story, like had the slow-motion action points, like the it was more grounded in reality.
- 31:19SPEAKER_00: Like we were going to war, like, not you know, we were fighting some Arabs, like America's fighting Arabs, yeah.
- 31:24SPEAKER_00: So it worked.
- 31:25SPEAKER_00: And then they had that crazy controversial uh no Russian.
- 31:28SPEAKER_00: Like, that's like a crazy, like, you know, the the guys go into the airport and they slaughter everybody, and like before you start, you're playing as the guy killing people, and before you start shooting the leader, he talked, he looks back and he's like, because they're Russian.
- 31:41SPEAKER_00: He's like, Oh, no Russian, don't speak no Russian.
- 31:43SPEAKER_00: This is a false flag.
- 31:44SPEAKER_00: Like, gotcha.
- 31:45SPEAKER_00: The first mission was a false flag, you know what I'm saying?
- 31:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 31:48SPEAKER_00: So that's dope.
- 31:49SPEAKER_00: Like, where is that?
- 31:50SPEAKER_00: Now, when you get the new games, they're just shoving online on at you immediately.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: They actually made online uh the story mode online.
- 31:58SPEAKER_00: So, like when you get on the story mode, there's a whole bunch of random people wanting to play it with you, and you that's not how single-player games work.
- 32:04SPEAKER_00: Nah, and then I think the battle pass system ruined modern gaming.
- 32:09SPEAKER_00: So you're probably not familiar.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: So every game and uh uh Fortnite started this, but you see that the thing about Fortnite is it the game, the base game is at least free.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: So put it like this, right?
- 32:21SPEAKER_00: You spend$70 on the game.
- 32:23unknown: $70.
- 32:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the games are$70 now.
- 32:26SPEAKER_01: Used to be$99,$9.99 back on Monday.
- 32:29SPEAKER_00: And then there's a thing called a battle pass that's optional.
- 32:33SPEAKER_00: So the battle pass will have starts off as oh, just cosmetics.
- 32:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cool cosmetics.
- 32:38SPEAKER_00: And then, like you're saying, everything is one.
- 32:40SPEAKER_00: I could play as Maximus in Call of Duty right now.
- 32:42SPEAKER_00: He's in he's on the game.
- 32:43SPEAKER_01: Maximus from Fallout.
- 32:44SPEAKER_00: I can play as Lucy, I can play as a ghoul.
- 32:45SPEAKER_00: I have them in on my game.
- 32:46SPEAKER_00: So I can boot up Call of Duty and I can be in the lobby with Nicki Minaj running around and Maximus.
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: I'm not even joking.
- 32:54SPEAKER_00: Like legitimate.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: So that everything is merging into one.
- 32:57SPEAKER_00: Some sort.
- 32:58SPEAKER_00: So the battle pass starts off as just cosmetics.
- 33:01SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I get a I get a Lucy skin, I get a ghoul skin, right?
- 33:05SPEAKER_00: And then, and the battle pass is on another$30 on top of the$70 you paid for.
- 33:10SPEAKER_00: So$100.
- 33:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 33:11SPEAKER_00: And then it's like there's a gun that's in the battle pass that's just better than all the guns that the base game has.
- 33:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:17SPEAKER_00: So now you're at a disadvantage.
- 33:19SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 33:20SPEAKER_00: And then they do little quirks like, oh, this skin has a smaller hitbox.
- 33:24SPEAKER_00: And the only way you get that skin is from the battle pass.
- 33:28SPEAKER_00: So it's like the regular skins, it's easier to shoot at.
- 33:30SPEAKER_00: This skin from the battle pass for whatever.
- 33:32SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's just so we just messed up that way.
- 33:34SPEAKER_00: As a smaller hitbox, so it's harder to kill the guy with this specific skin.
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 33:38SPEAKER_00: So it's essentially become a pay to win.
- 33:41SPEAKER_01: Money grab.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: And it's all a money grab.
- 33:43SPEAKER_00: And all of the games are adopting this.
- 33:45SPEAKER_00: It started out with Fortnite, but again, to give Fortnite its flowers, the base game of Fortnite is free.
- 33:49SPEAKER_00: You don't think it started with like 2K?
- 33:51SPEAKER_00: No, because 2K now has adapted that.
- 33:53SPEAKER_00: Because the 2K didn't really have a battle pass.
- 33:55SPEAKER_00: There was VC, like paid uh.
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the the battle pass to me is like because this is not it's not a one-time payment.
- 34:01SPEAKER_00: It's every month.
- 34:03SPEAKER_00: There's a new battle pass.
- 34:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 34:05SPEAKER_00: So you're paying$30 every it's like a subscription base.
- 34:08SPEAKER_00: But the the trick back is hey, GR, you don't have to get the battle pass.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: Just play the game.
- 34:16SPEAKER_00: How terrible it is.
- 34:17SPEAKER_00: You're watching everybody else with their skins and their gun.
- 34:21SPEAKER_00: Hey, where do you get that gun from?
- 34:22SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's right here, GR.
- 34:24SPEAKER_00: Just pay$30.
- 34:25SPEAKER_00: $30 a month.
- 34:26SPEAKER_00: And then you still have to grind the battle pass.
- 34:28SPEAKER_00: So this is the other thing.
- 34:30SPEAKER_00: You pay the$30, right?
- 34:31SPEAKER_00: Then you still have to play the game a lot to progress through the battle pass.
- 34:35SPEAKER_00: But there's more.
- 34:36SPEAKER_00: Hey, I know you just paid for the battle pass.
- 34:38SPEAKER_00: You want to spend another$40.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: You can just have all the battle pass stuff.
- 34:42SPEAKER_00: This is crazy.
- 34:43SPEAKER_00: And then you're looking at the numbers and you're like, video games used to be$10,$60.
- 34:50SPEAKER_00: And you had the whole thing that is story.
- 34:52SPEAKER_00: The DLCs were free or they were really cheap.
- 34:54SPEAKER_00: They were like$10 to add more stories.
- 34:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 34:57SPEAKER_00: Now the games come out incomplete.
- 34:58SPEAKER_00: There's this game called Cyberpunk.
- 35:00SPEAKER_01: All I've heard of that one, yeah.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: Cyberpunk is dope.
- 35:06SPEAKER_00: It's a really good game.
- 35:09SPEAKER_00: The problem with it, when it launched, it was incomplete.
- 35:13SPEAKER_00: It was buggy.
- 35:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember this, yeah.
- 35:16SPEAKER_00: And you lose the immersion.
- 35:19SPEAKER_00: But and that that game is meant to be.
- 35:21SPEAKER_00: It's like GTA with more immersion.
- 35:25SPEAKER_00: Like you get to make your character.
- 35:26SPEAKER_01: It's like a sim metagame.
- 35:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: This is your guy.
- 35:29SPEAKER_00: And it takes place in like the cyberpunk-ish future where you know it's kind of like what our world would look like maybe in 30 years.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: Like you, you know, you go to like some basement, this guy is putting like synthetic stuff in your body, so you can have like this mantis claw come out of your it's a dope game.
- 35:48SPEAKER_00: But when it launched, it was broken.
- 35:51SPEAKER_00: And that was just not a thing when we video games were complete.
- 35:55SPEAKER_00: I got a question.
- 35:56SPEAKER_01: You're right, 100% right.
- 35:57SPEAKER_01: Top five pre-internet, you know, community-based gaming or games that have gave you the best like story experience from any from any uh platform.
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: Probably I'd say pre pre-PS5.
- 36:13SPEAKER_01: Oh, um you want time to think because I got mine.
- 36:16SPEAKER_00: This is probably a Chico, but I think Red Dead Redemption 2 is the greatest game of all time.
- 36:19SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 36:20SPEAKER_00: It's the greatest game of all time.
- 36:21SPEAKER_01: The other four?
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, another four.
- 36:24SPEAKER_00: Uh San Andreas?
- 36:27SPEAKER_00: Fire.
- 36:29SPEAKER_00: Uh Grant of Auto 4.
- 36:31SPEAKER_00: Nico Bellett.
- 36:32SPEAKER_00: I see what I see what Venus.
- 36:34SPEAKER_00: Can't be mad at that.
- 36:35SPEAKER_00: Um I'm about to go way back too.
- 36:44SPEAKER_00: Okay, let me let me hear what you got.
- 36:45SPEAKER_01: So you have two more.
- 36:46SPEAKER_01: San Andreas is on LS for sure.
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: Yo, I I've played that game so many times.
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: Infamous.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: Oh, I forgot about the infamous series.
- 36:55SPEAKER_01: Um, this one was I think before your time.
- 36:58SPEAKER_01: Azora Dreams.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: PlayStation 1.
- 37:01SPEAKER_01: Azora Dreams?
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: Azora Dream.
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: What was that?
- 37:03SPEAKER_01: It was uh you were a monster tamer from this small village outside of this tower, magical tower, and every floor had different monsters.
- 37:10SPEAKER_01: You had to go in there to get treasure, gold.
- 37:12SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 37:13SPEAKER_01: And it's a poor village, so you became wealthy by being a monster tamer.
- 37:16SPEAKER_00: Ah.
- 37:17SPEAKER_01: So you either were like a regular surf or you was a monster tamer, risking your life to go.
- 37:22SPEAKER_01: And I went into the tower, obviously, meet this character.
- 37:25SPEAKER_01: He becomes like your, you know, your familiar, your uh Padawan, whatever.
- 37:28SPEAKER_01: Not your Padawan, like your monster pet.
- 37:30SPEAKER_01: And he battles with you, you go get other monsters.
- 37:32SPEAKER_01: So Pokemon.
- 37:34SPEAKER_01: Before Pokemon.
- 37:36SPEAKER_01: Look it up when y'all get a chance.
- 37:37SPEAKER_01: What was it called again?
- 37:38SPEAKER_01: Azora Dream.
- 37:39SPEAKER_01: Azora Dream.
- 37:40SPEAKER_01: I found it.
- 37:41SPEAKER_01: I found that game for$10 randomly.
- 37:43SPEAKER_01: Those be the best.
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: Were you just the best walking to GameStop?
- 37:46SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 37:47SPEAKER_00: And you're like, what?
- 37:47SPEAKER_00: Azora Dream?
- 37:48SPEAKER_00: It wasn't even a game stream.
- 37:49SPEAKER_00: Let me go play this.
- 37:50SPEAKER_00: I was in like Vermont.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: Oh, so you were on vacation.
- 37:52SPEAKER_00: EB Games or Circuit City or some shit like that.
- 37:54SPEAKER_01: Some unknown video game store, and I found a gem.
- 37:57SPEAKER_01: Still replayable to this day.
- 37:59SPEAKER_01: So that's what?
- 38:00SPEAKER_01: Infamous.
- 38:01SPEAKER_01: Um Azora Dream, San Andreas.
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: Um, there's another one.
- 38:05SPEAKER_01: There's another one.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: It came out around Infamous Time where the guy who can like absorb people in what's it called again?
- 38:10SPEAKER_01: Um absorb people.
- 38:13SPEAKER_01: He would like, he could transform, he'd run up on walls, and it was his whole whole game.
- 38:18SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna find it.
- 38:18SPEAKER_01: Prince of Persia?
- 38:19SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
- 38:20SPEAKER_01: This was in like modern day where he was like some kind of experiment.
- 38:25SPEAKER_00: Was it Crisis?
- 38:26SPEAKER_00: No.
- 38:27SPEAKER_00: Crisis was all.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: You go see now you're going through the games, you're realizing the experiences you had.
- 38:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crisis was awesome.
- 38:32SPEAKER_01: This I think this is why modern day gaming is dead, because you have to emphasize the story.
- 38:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 38:38SPEAKER_00: Now it's just online.
- 38:39SPEAKER_00: How do I get them online?
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: How do I get them to subscribe to this battle pass?
- 38:42SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 38:42SPEAKER_01: And that's it.
- 38:43SPEAKER_01: Let's get everyone together.
- 38:44SPEAKER_01: They got everyone transferred over to I Wanna Play Online, and now it's in order to enhance your experience.
- 38:48SPEAKER_01: Here, pay this, pay this, pay this, pay this.
- 38:50SPEAKER_01: Back then, you just had to beat the game.
- 38:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:52SPEAKER_01: And it was fire.
- 38:53SPEAKER_01: And your friends would come over to either sometimes you had like if you have a little brother like both of us do, yeah, they would have to watch.
- 38:57SPEAKER_01: Yo, you can't play, but you go watch.
- 38:59SPEAKER_01: Here, take this remote.
- 39:00SPEAKER_02: It's unplugged.
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: You're playing.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's you.
- 39:03SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: But now, you're like, I heard someone saying this is like these people who are playing online, which there's nothing wrong with that.
- 39:10SPEAKER_01: But the experience of being together playing online.
- 39:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's dead.
- 39:13SPEAKER_01: Playing Smash Brothers.
- 39:14SPEAKER_00: That's dead.
- 39:15SPEAKER_00: Smash Brothers together is gone.
- 39:17SPEAKER_00: That's dead.
- 39:17SPEAKER_00: You just you don't, yo, you used to uh Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, you're all about to go play uh Budokai at Sasha.
- 39:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:28SPEAKER_00: Everybody bring a controller, because you know, most people only got two controllers.
- 39:31SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 39:31SPEAKER_00: Second was broken, anyways.
- 39:32SPEAKER_00: Your mama had to call to come get you home for like, yo, I'm staying at night.
- 39:35SPEAKER_00: Yo, we all about to run a Smash Brothers on the GameCube.
- 39:37SPEAKER_00: Everybody bring a controller.
- 39:38SPEAKER_00: Oh, you don't got game controller?
- 39:39SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about it.
- 39:40SPEAKER_00: We're gonna figure something out.
- 39:41SPEAKER_00: So that that's dead.
- 39:43SPEAKER_00: Land parties were what they were called, but we never called them that because we didn't know what they were called.
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: But they were called land parties.
- 39:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 39:48SPEAKER_00: So that doesn't exist anymore.
- 39:49SPEAKER_00: So no, you're definitely right about that.
- 39:51SPEAKER_00: But um Azora, Azora, what?
- 39:54SPEAKER_01: Azora Dreams.
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm about to go research this game.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: You're not, it's too like it's too old.
- 39:58SPEAKER_01: The the the graphic, it's PS1.
- 40:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's crazy, bro.
- 40:02SPEAKER_01: The graphics are so like bit too deep.
- 40:05SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna want to play it.
- 40:06SPEAKER_01: But the adventure, the quality was great.
- 40:07SPEAKER_00: I like Sonic too.
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: Sonic is tough, yeah.
- 40:10SPEAKER_01: So I'm very replayable.
- 40:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like that.
- 40:12SPEAKER_01: Crash Bandicoot, yeah, uh Spiral, the Dream.
- 40:16SPEAKER_01: They don't make them no more.
- 40:17SPEAKER_01: Where you just going spamming and yeah, no, they don't make those games anymore.
- 40:20SPEAKER_00: Jack and Daxter.
- 40:21SPEAKER_00: They still make uh Ratchet and Clink, but I I think the the latest one was like some not to be this guy, but like some kind of woman empowerment thing.
- 40:29SPEAKER_00: But I didn't play it, so don't quote me on it, but that's what I heard.
- 40:33SPEAKER_00: That's everywhere now.
- 40:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so everything.
- 40:35SPEAKER_00: Damn, yeah.
- 40:36SPEAKER_00: So that that was kind of my thing.
- 40:37SPEAKER_00: Like, what was like the last great game?
- 40:40SPEAKER_00: And I kind of buried the lead here.
- 40:42SPEAKER_00: Um to me, it was Red Dead Redemption 2.
- 40:44SPEAKER_00: Red Dead Red.
- 40:45SPEAKER_00: I still have to finish playing that game.
- 40:46SPEAKER_00: Yo, that you that the the beauty of it is you don't have to.
- 40:50SPEAKER_00: You don't have to finish the story.
- 40:51SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 40:51SPEAKER_00: There's so much story outside of the story, it actually gets sad.
- 40:55SPEAKER_00: No spoilers, there's it's it's like within the gaming community, there's a part when you hear um the main character cough because he dies from uh tuberculosis.
- 41:04SPEAKER_00: Oh, so it's so once you get to the part where he coughs, you just kind of shut the game off.
- 41:09SPEAKER_00: You're like, nah, it's over.
- 41:10SPEAKER_00: I don't want to see it.
- 41:11SPEAKER_00: Because you don't want to see it.
- 41:12SPEAKER_00: But yo, you got the clan, you can kill the clan in that game.
- 41:14SPEAKER_00: They're just around.
- 41:15SPEAKER_00: Yo, that game, like, there's so much story in it outside, and they got all the Sasquatch, they got aliens, they got yeah, yo, there's there's like Red Dead Redemption.
- 41:24SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 41:25SPEAKER_00: Because remember, it's the it's the open, like, Wild West.
- 41:27SPEAKER_00: There's no cameras, there's no it's legendary animals you get to hunt.
- 41:31SPEAKER_00: Like, there's a nah, I gotta play this.
- 41:33SPEAKER_00: Nah, this game and the story, like I know I kind of spoiled it.
- 41:37SPEAKER_00: No, no, that's fine.
- 41:37SPEAKER_00: No, but there's there's that doesn't touch the story at all, like what I told you.
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: Like, you gotta like it's it's it's to me, it's probably the greatest modern game.
- 41:48SPEAKER_01: Do you get to create your own player?
- 41:49SPEAKER_00: No.
- 41:50SPEAKER_00: You play as a character in the wild wild west.
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: They do have an online.
- 41:55SPEAKER_00: Are there black people?
- 41:56SPEAKER_00: Of course.
- 41:57SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 41:57SPEAKER_00: That's a nigga on a horse.
- 41:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course they got a horse.
- 42:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, there's uh of course there's a lot of natives.
- 42:04SPEAKER_00: I think one of the guys in your crew is a black and native, I'm pretty sure.
- 42:08SPEAKER_00: You're trying to play as Nat Love.
- 42:10SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 42:10SPEAKER_00: See what you're doing there.
- 42:13SPEAKER_00: They should make a video game off of that.
- 42:14SPEAKER_00: They're not going to, but yeah.
- 42:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get you.
- 42:16SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, for me, that'd be the uh the greatest modern or maybe the greatest game of all time.
- 42:20SPEAKER_00: What was the last great game you played?
- 42:22SPEAKER_00: The last great game Skyrim.
- 42:24SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's in my top five.
- 42:25SPEAKER_00: Oh see, Skyrim is on that list of the level of nerdiness.
- 42:29SPEAKER_00: And Fallout's in that list, too.
- 42:31SPEAKER_00: That completes my top.
- 42:32SPEAKER_01: But Skyrim?
- 42:32SPEAKER_01: Skyrim.
- 42:33SPEAKER_01: Fire.
- 42:34SPEAKER_01: So, like I was almost addicted to that game because number one, my bag is sci-fi and fantasy.
- 42:40SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 42:40SPEAKER_01: That's why it's Fallout and Skyrim.
- 42:43SPEAKER_01: Like, those are my two favorite playable games.
- 42:46SPEAKER_01: But Skyrim, because you know, and this goes back to what we talked about last week about, you know, uh Dungeons and Dragons type of genre.
- 42:53SPEAKER_01: I was on that as a kid.
- 42:55SPEAKER_01: I loved that.
- 42:56SPEAKER_01: So to have a game where you get to play it out, yeah.
- 42:59SPEAKER_00: That's literally Dungeons and Dragons.
- 43:00SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 43:01SPEAKER_01: Actual dragons, the whole amazing to me.
- 43:04SPEAKER_01: And also I'm kind of resentful of people who just got onto it because of Game of Thrones.
- 43:07SPEAKER_01: But the point is, that game's playability, the choices you can make, the the option to play the story or just go and do your own thing, like you say, like you were talking about, amazing.
- 43:16SPEAKER_01: That's the last game that I was like super in love with.
- 43:19SPEAKER_00: I can't for I can't believe I forgot about Skyrim.
- 43:21SPEAKER_00: I had to get put onto Skyrim because I'm more of the first person shooter.
- 43:27SPEAKER_00: Not even that.
- 43:28SPEAKER_00: It's like I I tend towards more sci-fi.
- 43:31SPEAKER_00: Halo than uh yeah, Halo's another one.
- 43:33SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm more sci-fi than I am fantasy because to me fantasy then never has a lot of black representation.
- 43:43SPEAKER_01: That's number one.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: That's that's one of the biggest issues, yeah.
- 43:46SPEAKER_00: And uh that is a level of nerd that I dabble in.
- 43:51SPEAKER_00: I don't dive in.
- 43:52SPEAKER_00: The probably the nerdiest thing I I do is Pokemon, and that's that's that's on the fantasy tip, but that's so childish.
- 43:57SPEAKER_00: It's like it's for kids, you know.
- 44:01SPEAKER_00: Fantasy sci-fi.
- 44:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it does it does both.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: So Skyrim, I had to get put onto.
- 44:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 44:07SPEAKER_00: And when I got into that world, I was like, oh, I see it.
- 44:10SPEAKER_00: This is fire.
- 44:11SPEAKER_00: I see it.
- 44:12SPEAKER_00: This is what it's about.
- 44:13SPEAKER_01: Literally fighting dragons.
- 44:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, then you got the whole lore, the Daedric stuff.
- 44:17SPEAKER_00: Like, it's a it's a whole deep.
- 44:21SPEAKER_01: They went crazy with that.
- 44:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like, yo, like these Daedric princes, and they live in a realm that's outside of your realm, but they still can interact with your realm.
- 44:28SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 44:29SPEAKER_00: You just a little guppy in this pond.
- 44:30SPEAKER_00: Just the right.
- 44:31SPEAKER_00: Amongst these monsters.
- 44:33SPEAKER_00: Monsters.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: And they don't they influence the world, but so subtly.
- 44:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 44:37SPEAKER_00: You feel like you actually have some control.
- 44:39SPEAKER_00: But there's this monster like hanging out in the realm right behind your realm that's really kind of like pulling the strings.
- 44:46SPEAKER_00: Forcing his will or her will, and they have their own beefs within within each other.
- 44:49SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 44:50SPEAKER_00: And Skyrim is like that, and Skyrim allowed me to play The Witcher.
- 44:55SPEAKER_00: And The Witcher, that shit is fire too.
- 44:58SPEAKER_00: I played some of it.
- 44:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's fire.
- 45:00SPEAKER_01: But you know what happens?
- 45:01SPEAKER_01: I would I would play it and I'm like, this means this reminds me of Skyrim.
- 45:04SPEAKER_00: Let me just go play Skyrim.
- 45:05SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go play Skyrim.
- 45:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because Skyrim is more customizable.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, and the the reason why is because you can create your own character.
- 45:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the Witcher.
- 45:11SPEAKER_00: I choose you're a guy.
- 45:12SPEAKER_00: And mind you, with The Witcher, you start at game three.
- 45:14SPEAKER_00: There's two other games before it I never played.
- 45:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I started with three.
- 45:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm like, uh who's this Gerald guy?
- 45:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 45:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the show put me on a series.
- 45:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, the The Witcher's another good modern game.
- 45:26SPEAKER_00: It's a couple of them, but like we're saying, like, you could have named 20 of them from back in our era.
- 45:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 45:31SPEAKER_00: And then today it's like it's narrow.
- 45:33SPEAKER_00: It's three.
- 45:34SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
- 45:35SPEAKER_00: And then the Battle Pass thing.
- 45:37SPEAKER_00: Get rid of the fucking battle pass.
- 45:38SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
- 45:39SPEAKER_01: That you guys are paying.
- 45:40SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm God bless.
- 45:41SPEAKER_00: Not you guys.
- 45:42SPEAKER_00: I'm paying too.
- 45:43SPEAKER_01: That's why I mean you.
- 45:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm paying too.
- 45:46SPEAKER_00: God bless.
- 45:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's you rich, man.
- 45:48SPEAKER_00: That's the only way to play.
- 45:50SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
- 45:50SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be at a disadvantage.
- 45:52SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get jealous when you were playing as a generic army guy.
- 45:55SPEAKER_00: I would have been the one arm.
- 45:55SPEAKER_00: Maximus in the power armor is running around.
- 45:58SPEAKER_00: I would have been the one army guy in that line.
- 46:00SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you.
- 46:01SPEAKER_00: They'd be like, this guy, yeah.
- 46:03SPEAKER_00: GR.
- 46:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like scrub.
- 46:05SPEAKER_00: No matter.
- 46:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, get you a power armor, bro.
- 46:07SPEAKER_00: That's that's how it is.
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: And then you it's it's Fortnite.
- 46:10SPEAKER_00: I would say Fortnite um, like positively and negatively, like changed gaming.
- 46:18SPEAKER_00: Fortnite.
- 46:18SPEAKER_00: Because Fortnite, you can literally have any character from anything you can think of in a lobby with you, duking it out.
- 46:26SPEAKER_00: Like I've yet to play it, never play it.
- 46:29SPEAKER_00: To me, I don't play it because it's too cartoony for me.
- 46:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:32SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's that borderline of like this is clearly like coming from the guy that plays Pokemon.
- 46:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 46:36SPEAKER_00: But this is clearly like for kids.
- 46:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 46:39SPEAKER_00: And my son loves Fortnite.
- 46:41SPEAKER_00: But it's revolutionary though.
- 46:43SPEAKER_00: Like you Goku and Naruto.
- 46:45SPEAKER_00: But what do you what do you what are you doing that game?
- 46:47SPEAKER_01: You just fighting spin, just doing stuff?
- 46:48SPEAKER_00: It's like um who can it's a battle royale.
- 46:51SPEAKER_00: So you're trying to kill as many people.
- 46:52SPEAKER_00: Like you're trying to be the last guy or last.
- 46:53SPEAKER_01: Well, Smash Brothers, but with guns.
- 46:55SPEAKER_01: Guns and on stage.
- 46:56SPEAKER_00: But it's not just guns.
- 46:57SPEAKER_00: You could you could have Itachi doing a Kamehameha wave at I don't like the game.
- 47:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's I'm disgusted.
- 47:04SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
- 47:05SPEAKER_00: Oh what?
- 47:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 47:06SPEAKER_00: No.
- 47:07SPEAKER_00: You can you can you can have Thanos' the gauntlet like Goku could have Thanos' gauntlet, like shooting at people.
- 47:12SPEAKER_00: Like anything you can think of.
- 47:13SPEAKER_00: And Peter Griffin could do Shadow Clone Jutsu.
- 47:17SPEAKER_00: Like that's for some reason that's tough.
- 47:21SPEAKER_00: You see what I'm saying?
- 47:22SPEAKER_00: Like 40 Peter Griffin's?
- 47:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that's that's how the game is like any any media you can think of.
- 47:27SPEAKER_00: They just added uh Jon Snow Daenerys and the Night King.
- 47:31SPEAKER_00: So any media, anything.
- 47:33SPEAKER_00: Because at this point, and mind you, the game is free.
- 47:36SPEAKER_00: It's free?
- 47:38SPEAKER_00: Where are you playing this?
- 47:38SPEAKER_00: On a PC basically?
- 47:39SPEAKER_00: You can play it on your phone.
- 47:41SPEAKER_00: What?
- 47:41SPEAKER_00: You can play it on I'm out the loop for a while.
- 47:43SPEAKER_00: You can play on any system you can think of.
- 47:45SPEAKER_00: And your phone.
- 47:46SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 47:48SPEAKER_00: And it's free.
- 47:49SPEAKER_00: Nah, it's an agenda binding.
- 47:50SPEAKER_00: The game is free.
- 47:51SPEAKER_00: Nothing's free.
- 47:52SPEAKER_00: But you're gonna be the only dude running around as generic Bob when you see Sasuke.
- 47:57SPEAKER_00: Kamehameha doing a Kamehameha Mayway.
- 48:00SPEAKER_00: And you see sick.
- 48:01SPEAKER_00: You see Thanos running around with and Thanos' crew is Peter Griffin, Goku, and the girl from Kill, the bride from Kill Bill.
- 48:10SPEAKER_00: That's his team.
- 48:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 48:11SPEAKER_00: And your team is generic guy, generic guy, generic guy.
- 48:13SPEAKER_00: You're gonna want to spend that money.
- 48:15SPEAKER_00: That's sick.
- 48:15SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you.
- 48:16SPEAKER_01: What are we doing?
- 48:17SPEAKER_01: Why?
- 48:18SPEAKER_01: But I get it.
- 48:19SPEAKER_01: You know, when you get it's almost like drugs, you're chasing a white dragon at this point.
- 48:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 48:25SPEAKER_01: You gotta do put everything in it?
- 48:26SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 48:26SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 48:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:27SPEAKER_01: Everything is becoming one thing.
- 48:30SPEAKER_01: They're merging the time ones.
- 48:31SPEAKER_00: Alright, uh, just just some quick uh trailers that uh came out.
- 48:35SPEAKER_00: Um I want to speak about back to back to the nerd stuff.
- 48:38SPEAKER_00: I mean it's all nerd stuff.
- 48:40SPEAKER_00: But um the lanterns trailer is the trailer dropped.
- 48:42SPEAKER_00: So lanterns is a show on HBO.
- 48:44SPEAKER_00: Shout out to HBO, I'm an HBO Supremacist.
- 48:47SPEAKER_00: It was on HBO, I watch.
- 48:48SPEAKER_00: Um it's something about the cameras they use, bro.
- 48:50SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it is.
- 48:51SPEAKER_00: They shoot for cinematography.
- 48:52SPEAKER_00: It just looks amazing.
- 48:53SPEAKER_00: Inspired, yeah.
- 48:54SPEAKER_00: Um it's gonna be the Green Lantern.
- 48:57SPEAKER_00: It's the two lanterns.
- 48:58SPEAKER_00: Um, I believe uh it's Aaron Pierre, if that's his name.
- 49:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something like that.
- 49:03SPEAKER_00: Better at the names.
- 49:03SPEAKER_00: I forgot who the white guy is.
- 49:05SPEAKER_00: So I guess it's gonna be like a uh a coming, not a coming of age, more like a training montage thing.
- 49:09SPEAKER_00: Like, hey, new black guy, you got a ring?
- 49:12SPEAKER_00: I have a ring.
- 49:12SPEAKER_00: Let's let's let's I'm gonna teach you how to become a and then eventually he's gonna I don't know if he's ever gonna have his own movie because the Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds is one of the worst moves, worst superhero movies as well.
- 49:24SPEAKER_00: So just chill out.
- 49:26SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so eventually he's gonna be part of the new because we got the new Superman, we have our Green Lantern.
- 49:32SPEAKER_00: We don't we don't know what's going on with Batman because you have uh the director Matt Reeves.
- 49:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Africa's out.
- 49:39SPEAKER_00: But the so this is right, James Gunn, he's now taking over GC.
- 49:43SPEAKER_00: So he does he did the Superman.
- 49:45SPEAKER_00: But this recent one?
- 49:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 49:47SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 49:47SPEAKER_00: You don't like it?
- 49:48SPEAKER_01: I'm not the biggest fan.
- 49:49SPEAKER_01: I mean I like I I just like the the more raw, tough, dark type of Superman.
- 49:56SPEAKER_00: I thought I don't like that Superman.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: Who's it?
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: What's his name?
- 49:59SPEAKER_01: Henry Cavill?
- 49:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 50:00SPEAKER_00: No, I like Henry Cavill the actor.
- 50:01SPEAKER_00: He's a phenomenal actor.
- 50:02SPEAKER_00: I think he's a Witcher crushed him anyway.
- 50:04SPEAKER_00: And then they ruined the show by replacing him with Thor's little brother.
- 50:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but um Thor's little brother.
- 50:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 50:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is.
- 50:09SPEAKER_00: So um I like Henry Cavill, the actor.
- 50:14SPEAKER_00: I don't like a dark Superman.
- 50:16SPEAKER_00: Because what that does for me is what do I need Batman for?
- 50:19SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying dark as in like he's just willing to kill everybody, but the world around him is more realistic in terms of uh threats and how it's perceived.
- 50:27SPEAKER_01: Like this, I saw this last Superman, it was very cartoony.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was colorful.
- 50:31SPEAKER_01: Now I would imagine if he's if James Gunn is doing what I think he's gonna do, he's gonna set you up with a cartoon world.
- 50:36SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, turn it.
- 50:38SPEAKER_01: He's gonna flip it on like that's that's and then we're gonna see where this goes, but I think it was a little too cartoony.
- 50:44SPEAKER_01: I mean, the dog was cool.
- 50:45SPEAKER_01: The dog has to die at some point, though.
- 50:46SPEAKER_01: If you want to get me invested, okay, fair enough.
- 50:49SPEAKER_00: Oh so the lantern series is gonna be a show, probably limited series.
- 50:54SPEAKER_00: Um what I expect from it, I want it to be I I want the old white lantern to die.
- 51:00SPEAKER_00: And then that that's no, not you see, I I see how that sounded.
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
- 51:04SPEAKER_00: I'm with you.
- 51:05SPEAKER_01: Someone has to die.
- 51:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I want it to get him out the paint.
- 51:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 51:08SPEAKER_00: I want it to be like, damn, I'm the I'm the lantern of this quadrant of the universe.
- 51:13SPEAKER_00: I don't have nobody to piggyback on.
- 51:14SPEAKER_01: Revenge story?
- 51:15SPEAKER_01: Um some threat kills the old lantern, so now it's like I can't.
- 51:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, then it's gonna be Sinestro.
- 51:19SPEAKER_00: Like, and then we have to cast him.
- 51:21SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so that that's how I want that series to go.
- 51:24SPEAKER_00: I want it to be like the whole time him like learning that the power is not because the power, the ring is the literal power, but it's the ring is as powerful as your willpower.
- 51:31SPEAKER_00: It's an extension.
- 51:32SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 51:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then how creative you are.
- 51:34SPEAKER_00: Those are the two things that dictate how strong you are as a lantern.
- 51:36SPEAKER_00: Number one is willpower.
- 51:37SPEAKER_00: That's it.
- 51:38SPEAKER_00: If you have this will that you're not gonna die, you're not gonna lose, the ring will always power that.
- 51:42SPEAKER_00: And then how creative you are is how the constructs go.
- 51:45SPEAKER_00: So I want the whole series to be about testing Aaron Pierce's character's willpower.
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: And then at the end, the white guy dies and it's like, hey, you are the protector now.
- 51:55SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 51:55SPEAKER_00: And it's your your job.
- 51:56SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
- 51:57SPEAKER_00: That's how I want it to go.
- 51:58SPEAKER_00: That's my expectation for the series.
- 51:59SPEAKER_00: And then eventually, hopefully, he gets his own movie.
- 52:02SPEAKER_00: Because um, it seems like they're gearing him up to be um uh uh supposed to go, Michael B.
- 52:09SPEAKER_00: Jordan's foil.
- 52:10SPEAKER_00: Like these two guys are gonna be the two guys that battle it out in terms of who's gonna get the box office stuff.
- 52:14SPEAKER_00: But I just don't think he's there yet.
- 52:16SPEAKER_00: No, definitely not.
- 52:17SPEAKER_01: Um, no.
- 52:18SPEAKER_01: Uh but they're definitely propping him up.
- 52:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so and I I think that's good to have, you know, dominating black actors at the same time.
- 52:25SPEAKER_00: Because we never really we always get one at a time.
- 52:28SPEAKER_00: Because Chadwick was taken from us, and then they're like, okay, Michael B, is your goal.
- 52:32SPEAKER_00: Like, why couldn't we have them all at the same time?
- 52:34SPEAKER_00: It can only be one.
- 52:35SPEAKER_00: I don't like that.
- 52:36SPEAKER_01: Token is like, I I I agree with you.
- 52:38SPEAKER_00: Ain't that's how the Sith Lords get down?
- 52:39SPEAKER_00: One, one is that?
- 52:40SPEAKER_01: The rule of two.
- 52:41SPEAKER_01: That's what we call the rule of two.
- 52:42SPEAKER_01: One ascending and one that they're bringing up.
- 52:44SPEAKER_01: Oh, shout out to Duke it out, and then whoever's left is shout out Calendoku.
- 52:47SPEAKER_00: I like that guy.
- 52:48SPEAKER_00: Calendugu, yo.
- 52:49SPEAKER_01: Yo, his lore is crazy.
- 52:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like that.
- 52:51SPEAKER_01: Yo, we gotta talk about it.
- 52:52SPEAKER_00: Isn't he like the best like swordsman?
- 52:54SPEAKER_01: Or like second best?
- 52:56SPEAKER_01: His his style, because he has the hooked, the hooked um lightsaber, he's one of the best for sure.
- 53:00SPEAKER_01: They they nerfed him though.
- 53:02SPEAKER_01: But again, that's one of those moments that make it makes you realize that Anakin is him.
- 53:06SPEAKER_00: I mean he's Anakin.
- 53:07SPEAKER_01: Anakin is him because he fought him one-on-one.
- 53:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
- 53:10SPEAKER_01: Obi-Wan got, you know, put to sleep.
- 53:13SPEAKER_01: Anakin said, yo, listen, last time you caught me.
- 53:15SPEAKER_01: You caught me when I was green, you took my arm.
- 53:17SPEAKER_01: I'm back for revenge.
- 53:18SPEAKER_01: Called him on one of these, by the way.
- 53:20SPEAKER_01: No hands, held him like this.
- 53:23SPEAKER_01: Finish him.
- 53:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shot him.
- 53:24SPEAKER_01: Anyway, my bad.
- 53:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, nerding me.
- 53:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's all good.
- 53:27SPEAKER_00: It's all good.
- 53:28SPEAKER_00: And uh, just just to uh wrap the show, because you know we got we got things to do.
- 53:32SPEAKER_00: Um, I just want to talk about some tropes that we're sick of in all media.
- 53:37SPEAKER_00: I like this.
- 53:38SPEAKER_00: I'll start.
- 53:41SPEAKER_00: Japanese people, I'm speaking to you directly.
- 53:43SPEAKER_00: I have two tropes that I do not like in your media.
- 53:46SPEAKER_00: Please change them just for me.
- 53:47SPEAKER_00: This black guy that enjoys all your stuff.
- 53:50SPEAKER_00: I'm tired of the little girls.
- 53:53SPEAKER_00: Talk about it.
- 53:54SPEAKER_00: If you don't know what I'm talking about, pay close attention to Japanese stuff.
- 53:59SPEAKER_00: There's always a full-size man attracted to a small woman.
- 54:04SPEAKER_00: I saw it in reverse, though, but go ahead.
- 54:05SPEAKER_00: You saw in what?
- 54:06SPEAKER_01: In um JJK.
- 54:07SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 54:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:09SPEAKER_01: She's attracted to.
- 54:10SPEAKER_01: She's a grown woman.
- 54:11SPEAKER_01: She's laying in bed with a little boy.
- 54:12SPEAKER_00: I thought that was her son or something.
- 54:13SPEAKER_00: That's her man.
- 54:14SPEAKER_00: Yo.
- 54:15SPEAKER_00: But the optic.
- 54:16SPEAKER_00: The optic is what it is.
- 54:17SPEAKER_00: Go back and watch it.
- 54:18SPEAKER_00: I'm like.
- 54:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so both ways.
- 54:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:20SPEAKER_00: Stop doing that.
- 54:21SPEAKER_00: Stop doing that.
- 54:22SPEAKER_00: Stop doing that.
- 54:22SPEAKER_00: I don't like that.
- 54:23SPEAKER_00: Oh no, did Dragon Ball Z did that shit too?
- 54:25SPEAKER_00: With Boma and Goku.
- 54:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:28SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, stop.
- 54:29SPEAKER_00: Like, what is this?
- 54:30SPEAKER_00: What are we doing?
- 54:31SPEAKER_00: I don't care how old the character is, it's the optic.
- 54:35SPEAKER_00: You're right.
- 54:36SPEAKER_00: My man Bond, I'm looking at you.
- 54:37SPEAKER_00: You're a suspect.
- 54:38SPEAKER_00: You a suspect.
- 54:39SPEAKER_01: Watch how you talk to Bond.
- 54:40SPEAKER_01: There's not much you can do with him.
- 54:41SPEAKER_01: I'm the other one.
- 54:42SPEAKER_01: That's undead.
- 54:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 54:43SPEAKER_00: That's true.
- 54:44SPEAKER_00: That's true.
- 54:45SPEAKER_00: Apparently he's 7'5 or something.
- 54:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's like, he should be playing basketball.
- 54:49SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
- 54:51SPEAKER_00: Um, second trope.
- 54:52SPEAKER_00: Again, you're Japanese.
- 54:55SPEAKER_00: I do not like the demon shit.
- 54:59SPEAKER_00: Where the angels at?
- 55:00SPEAKER_00: Angels are stronger than demons.
- 55:02SPEAKER_00: What are we doing?
- 55:03SPEAKER_00: The one show that had angels in it, and the angels and demons is fighting.
- 55:08SPEAKER_00: Funny enough, is the seven deadly sins.
- 55:09SPEAKER_00: They had angels in there.
- 55:10SPEAKER_00: And it was like a rivalry.
- 55:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it was their neck and neck.
- 55:13SPEAKER_00: Like, what are we doing?
- 55:14SPEAKER_00: They ain't the demons are supposed to be like, oh shit, angels here.
- 55:16SPEAKER_00: We out.
- 55:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we gotta look.
- 55:18SPEAKER_00: We can fuck with the humans.
- 55:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 55:19SPEAKER_00: But the angels are here.
- 55:20SPEAKER_00: We out.
- 55:21SPEAKER_00: I don't like this.
- 55:22SPEAKER_00: Stop having the main character.
- 55:23SPEAKER_00: Why do I gotta support a guy that's literally a demon inside of me?
- 55:26SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do that.
- 55:26SPEAKER_00: That'd be the bad guy.
- 55:27SPEAKER_00: Why can't the bad guy just be that?
- 55:28SPEAKER_00: Nah.
- 55:29SPEAKER_00: No, it's the guy that I have to root for, is also possessed by a demon.
- 55:32SPEAKER_00: I understand there's cultural things.
- 55:34SPEAKER_00: Maybe in your cultures, demons are not that bad, but it's in the name.
- 55:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 55:37SPEAKER_00: It's a demon.
- 55:38SPEAKER_00: Like, what are we doing?
- 55:39SPEAKER_00: Like, no, there's no debate in there.
- 55:40SPEAKER_00: I think we should change that.
- 55:41SPEAKER_00: I think y'all should have gave Sasuke the Ninetales, and the show should have ended with Naruto.
- 55:45SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm sorry, you're my best friend, but you possessed, and you gotta die.
- 55:48SPEAKER_00: I gotta get you out the page.
- 55:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta I like that.
- 55:51SPEAKER_00: That would have been more fire.
- 55:52SPEAKER_00: But maybe that's my, you know.
- 55:54SPEAKER_00: Even Baruto's technically possessed.
- 55:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, he's he's probed.
- 55:58SPEAKER_00: He's uh he's in he's an alien, he's an alien demon.
- 56:00SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
- 56:02SPEAKER_00: What's with this possession thing?
- 56:04SPEAKER_00: The the the dual, the doppelganger, the dual personality.
- 56:07SPEAKER_00: Like what what's up with that?
- 56:08SPEAKER_00: I'm not Japanese, I don't know.
- 56:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's across all their meetings.
- 56:12SPEAKER_00: The only one that didn't have that is Goku.
- 56:13SPEAKER_00: He didn't have that, but you got Ichigo, he got that.
- 56:16SPEAKER_00: Uh, and Bleach.
- 56:17SPEAKER_00: Goku technically turns into a monstrous.
- 56:20SPEAKER_00: It's a monkey.
- 56:22SPEAKER_00: But it's not two ver it's still Goku.
- 56:24SPEAKER_00: It's not two niggas arguing inside of a body, like, hey nah, we're going to.
- 56:26SPEAKER_00: It's my turn.
- 56:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nah, nah.
- 56:27SPEAKER_00: That's just whack.
- 56:28SPEAKER_00: I don't like that.
- 56:29SPEAKER_00: That shit is weird.
- 56:30SPEAKER_00: Like, we got one too is the Hulk, but that's not demonic.
- 56:32SPEAKER_00: That's just he something's wrong with him.
- 56:34SPEAKER_00: His psyche got broke.
- 56:35SPEAKER_01: It's still actually still, it's still David.
- 56:38SPEAKER_01: It's just another repressed version of him.
- 56:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 56:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 56:41SPEAKER_01: Like the opposite of like it's it's like a childlike version of it.
- 56:43SPEAKER_00: But no, Naruto, one of the happy go-lucky guys.
- 56:48SPEAKER_00: Another thing, another final trope, and I I want to give it the floor to give at least one dominating.
- 56:52SPEAKER_00: No, no, go ahead.
- 56:53SPEAKER_00: I agree with all of these so far.
- 56:55SPEAKER_00: I don't like the Mary Sue, Mary Stew characters.
- 56:58SPEAKER_00: And that's across all media.
- 57:00SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 57:01SPEAKER_00: Goku's one of my favorite characters in anything, and he is a Mary Stew.
- 57:05SPEAKER_00: Superman is a Mary Stew.
- 57:07SPEAKER_00: These are characters that fall upwards.
- 57:09SPEAKER_00: No matter what they do, they get stronger and they just inherit this new thing that allows them to beat this guy.
- 57:15SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 57:15SPEAKER_00: They can't lose, and it's whack.
- 57:17SPEAKER_00: Goku's died.
- 57:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like he died.
- 57:19SPEAKER_00: Every time Goku dies, he's like, all right, I'm done.
- 57:22SPEAKER_00: Kill me.
- 57:23SPEAKER_00: Comes back.
- 57:24SPEAKER_00: No, no.
- 57:25SPEAKER_00: Goku has never died, and he was terrified.
- 57:27SPEAKER_00: Holy shit, this guy's whooping my ass.
- 57:29SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to get away.
- 57:29SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I died.
- 57:30SPEAKER_00: That's Vegeta's role.
- 57:31SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 57:31SPEAKER_00: Goku dies.
- 57:32SPEAKER_00: He's except he's like, oh yeah, no, you can kill me because my son got this.
- 57:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my son.
- 57:36SPEAKER_00: That's whack.
- 57:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's free.
- 57:37SPEAKER_00: He's never Goku's never been scared.
- 57:39SPEAKER_01: He's the most irresponsible father.
- 57:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's the worst father of all time.
- 57:41SPEAKER_01: This guy dies to get away from him.
- 57:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's like abilities.
- 57:43SPEAKER_00: Pinkel, raise my son.
- 57:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, please.
- 57:45SPEAKER_00: Like.
- 57:45SPEAKER_00: When he's grown, I'll be back.
- 57:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 57:47SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm tired of the Mary Stu, Mary Sue characters.
- 57:50SPEAKER_00: I don't like.
- 57:51SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think of a Marion Marvel.
- 57:53SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 57:54SPEAKER_00: Like, come on, bro.
- 57:55SPEAKER_00: Like.
- 57:55SPEAKER_01: Oh, did you ever catch um that Lord of the Rings series on um Amazon?
- 57:59SPEAKER_00: No.
- 57:59SPEAKER_00: Because it was on Amazon.
- 58:00unknown: Yeah.
- 58:01SPEAKER_01: But the main character in that one, um, she was a Mary uh Mary Sue.
- 58:05SPEAKER_01: Mary Sue?
- 58:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just overpowered.
- 58:07SPEAKER_01: Um, nothing was wrong.
- 58:08SPEAKER_01: She was always right.
- 58:09SPEAKER_01: That show is actually we'll get into that another episode, but yeah, that's another example.
- 58:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so those are my tropes that I'm just tired of seeing.
- 58:16SPEAKER_00: I need a new trope.
- 58:17SPEAKER_00: Uh JJK, demon.
- 58:20SPEAKER_00: Learns to cursed spirits.
- 58:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like and the main character got the demon in him.
- 58:24SPEAKER_01: Like, but listen, you see, on the the the other side of that, this the same thing we talked about, why I chose the characters who have the superpower body, because it's called a heavenly contract.
- 58:34SPEAKER_00: Ah.
- 58:35SPEAKER_01: So they're telling you, like, this is the bane of people who use that cursed energy.
- 58:39SPEAKER_01: These people who are just blessed.
- 58:41SPEAKER_01: They got a contract and they go crazy.
- 58:43SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
- 58:43SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 58:44SPEAKER_01: Your techniques are cool and all, but I'm not just punching your shit.
- 58:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm just gonna knock you out.
- 58:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that's it.
- 58:49SPEAKER_00: With a heavenly.
- 58:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, like, and again, they got around it because they buffed up Gojo, who's a married Stu, in my opinion.
- 58:56SPEAKER_00: Yes, he definitely has.
- 58:57SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, but I killed you though.
- 58:58SPEAKER_01: Now I'm back.
- 58:59SPEAKER_01: And I'm I have a new technique that you cannot dodge.
- 59:02SPEAKER_01: Purple.
- 59:02SPEAKER_01: But before that, we already knew who was him.
- 59:05SPEAKER_01: Nah, but come on, that's he had they had the 1v1 me versus the.
- 59:09SPEAKER_00: But he had the backpack.
- 59:10SPEAKER_01: That don't matter.
- 59:11SPEAKER_00: He didn't, yeah, it did.
- 59:12SPEAKER_00: That's what helped him.
- 59:13SPEAKER_01: At one point, Gojo was looking for him like this.
- 59:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because he had all of his parents around him.
- 59:18SPEAKER_00: Nah.
- 59:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was he used chafe.
- 59:20SPEAKER_00: If he I would have respected it more.
- 59:22SPEAKER_01: Everywhere.
- 59:23SPEAKER_00: I would have respected it more if he didn't use none of that shit.
- 59:25SPEAKER_00: If he just said, hey.
- 59:26SPEAKER_00: All he had was a sword.
- 59:28SPEAKER_00: No, and the backpack was spitting out the little smaller ones.
- 59:31SPEAKER_00: Little flies?
- 59:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was the distracting his his nah.
- 59:34SPEAKER_00: Come on, sir.
- 59:35SPEAKER_00: I'm not giving that's called strategy.
- 59:36SPEAKER_00: No, it is.
- 59:37SPEAKER_00: I I have to do that against a guy who has these blue eyes that can.
- 59:40SPEAKER_00: Nah, but then then don't don't say you just punched a nigga then.
- 59:42SPEAKER_00: He did though.
- 59:43SPEAKER_00: Nah, nah, no, he didn't.
- 59:44SPEAKER_00: He took he did punch him at some point.
- 59:46SPEAKER_00: And he and he didn't kill him.
- 59:47SPEAKER_00: He came.
- 59:48SPEAKER_00: Yo, the slightly.
- 59:49SPEAKER_00: Why didn't he cut his head off?
- 59:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he should have.
- 59:51SPEAKER_02: Gotta aim for the head of his.
- 59:53SPEAKER_01: There are times where that doesn't work.
- 59:55SPEAKER_01: Like when?
- 59:56SPEAKER_01: Aaron Yeager.
- 59:57SPEAKER_01: They ate.
- 59:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 59:59SPEAKER_01: My boy said, oh, word?
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_01: Tap.
- 1:00:01SPEAKER_01: Does he fall under the demon thing?
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I was gonna say that's one of the exceptions in anime is the attack on Titans.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_01: Was it could have been though, because you know what?
- 1:00:08SPEAKER_01: In the the ending credits, you see that demon with the girl.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_01: That was the one clue.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_01: We never they never really clarified if it was something demonic.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_01: They just say it's a parasite.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:00:18SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:00:18SPEAKER_00: So that's more sci-fi.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_00: We don't get we need a backstory on where that's where that shit came from.
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_00: People do have theories that parasites are demonic.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_01: But the point is that they they give you a hint, but they don't tell you directly.
- 1:00:28SPEAKER_01: So it could be, but I say based on what we saw, no, no, no.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_01: More on the more on the sci-fi side.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_00: And he's not a Gary Stew either.
- 1:00:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_00: He's he's in the Anakin, he's in that.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_00: He has a journey to witness, and it's he's a Paula Trades, Anakin, Aaron Yeager.
- 1:00:44SPEAKER_00: That's that's that.
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_00: I like that archetype.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you I think that's more real.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_01: That's that's what happened, bro.
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_00: I think absolute power corrupts absolute.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's any man on this planet.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_00: As much as I love and respect you, bro.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_00: If you had absolute power, you would be evil too.
- 1:00:59SPEAKER_00: I'm already evil.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_00: So don't give it to me.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_00: We all got some power.
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just think that again, not to make this too preachy, but I think that's what's so dope about Jesus.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_00: Is that he's the only person that has ever existed that absolute power.
- 1:01:10SPEAKER_00: Has absolute power, he wasn't corrupted by it.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_00: And let us kill him.
- 1:01:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that's gang, he's Goku.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_00: He was like, oh but I'm backing it.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what we got.
- 1:01:21SPEAKER_00: That's where they got it from.
- 1:01:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they OD'd though.
- 1:01:24SPEAKER_00: They stole it.
- 1:01:25SPEAKER_00: This guy goes Goku's never been scared.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_01: Yo, back in the day, everyone loved Goku.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_01: You've been hearing this lately, but now everyone's starting to fall in love with Vegeta because that's a real life, you know.
- 1:01:34SPEAKER_00: No, I was always a Vegeta guy.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_00: I liked him.
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_00: I was always a Vegeta guy.
- 1:01:37SPEAKER_00: But he's a Vegeta just loses to people he shouldn't be losing to.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_00: Who do you lose to that you shouldn't be losing to?
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_00: The Androids.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_00: And then he let Cell power up.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_00: That's Hubert's.
- 1:01:47SPEAKER_00: He was wild.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like what are we doing?
- 1:01:49SPEAKER_00: He killed the first android, the big one.
- 1:01:51SPEAKER_00: Um was that 18?
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_00: 19, I think.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_00: 19.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_00: He smoked him.
- 1:01:54SPEAKER_00: He got him out of the paint.
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh yeah.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_00: That's the guy who smoked Goku.
- 1:01:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he that guy smoked Goku, though.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_00: Goku was sick.
- 1:01:59SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah, Vegeta's finally getting his moment.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_00: And then he was just like, nah.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_01: He ruined it.
- 1:02:03SPEAKER_01: He got two.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_00: That's the problem, bro.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_00: This guy does it all the time.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_01: When when Trunks did that scream in the cave, it's gonna be the end of all of these.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_01: Just off of that, I would have been like, yo, we might have to take this guy seriously.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, I think I think we did it, man.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_00: Another great episode of the Real Talk Podcast.
- 1:02:22SPEAKER_00: You know, we got some real things to do in real life.
- 1:02:24SPEAKER_00: We gotta get up out of here.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_00: We can come see our live and direct, man.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_00: You know, like, subscribe, let us know what you want us to talk about.
- 1:02:31SPEAKER_00: We'll be back.
- 1:02:32SPEAKER_00: Taylor, take us out, man.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_00: And that is a wrap.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_00: I love it too.