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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are continuing with
- 0:03Helkhosnida vesit kuf PE tet. OK, today we're continuing with
- 0:08Siif Yudalid, but I'm just going to explain better the beginning
- 0:14of the Rama in the in Yudgimo. So he has the interesting case
- 0:19of she sees on the 1st of the month and the 20th of the month,
- 0:24and then according to the remote, it doesn't really matter
- 0:26how many more times she sees, she always has to worry about
- 0:29this in the next month. Even if she sees again, it
- 0:33doesn't necessarily completely uproot the last vestige, she
- 0:38still has to worry. Let's say if she sees it on the
- 0:401st and the 20th, no matter what, she's going to have to be
- 0:43worried for it on the first of the next month, Rosh Kodesh and
- 0:47on the 20th of the next month and on the 9th and on the ninth
- 0:52of the next month, she has to worry about every possibility of
- 0:56yon of the vesit of the day vesit A Kodesh and the vesit
- 1:01haflaga. So just to point out, OK, first
- 1:05of all, just to explain what's the rationale behind the Ramaz,
- 1:08the post game? You see this in the base Yosef
- 1:10and and onward. The issue is when you have A to
- 1:16uproot a vesit, even if it's a vesa chena kavua, just to uproot
- 1:21the one time vesa, it's not kavua, but just to, you know,
- 1:26reestablish your new three times to be Klochechvor or whatever
- 1:30you're Klochechvor. It normally we say one time
- 1:34uproots a vesa chena kavua. However, the Rama holds again,
- 1:41it's unclear exactly who agrees and disagrees, but the Rama
- 1:46among the Rishonian. But according to the Rama, it's
- 1:48clear if it's gets shorter, if the if the new vessels that the
- 1:56next time that she sees is sooner than was a stabbed than
- 2:01what was expected from the previous time, then we don't
- 2:06automatically assume it's an Akira.
- 2:10It's undoing the previous vessels where Hoshish, maybe
- 2:14it's an extra bleeding, an extra extra blood and therefore it's
- 2:21not necessarily an Akira and might just be extra and
- 2:25therefore she has to worry about the previous one and the next
- 2:29one. So again, whenever the interval
- 2:32or the day is shorter, it's a Mahlocas.
- 2:36If it uproots the previous vessel, if it goes from 30 days
- 2:41to 35 days and 30 days goes by and the next time is 35, then
- 2:47that'll uproot for the next month because that was longer
- 2:51than what you were expected. When the time period that was
- 2:54expected passes and she doesn't see the blood, then that's a
- 2:57proper Akira Lekulioma. OK, who agrees with the Rama?
- 3:02So the Taz agrees with the Rama, the Bach and the the Shah
- 3:10disagree. I'll just quote a nice line from
- 3:13the the taz that he writes Shah Moshe Emes, Viteraso Emes.
- 3:20Really. We don't usually refer that to
- 3:22Moshe Rabenu, but he uses that the taz to support the Rama
- 3:26because it's, that's his name, Rab Moshe Isilis.
- 3:29So too we have from the Pasak Derek Mellitza, the Holy Binet
- 3:34Israel Yosim Biyad Rama. That's from Azyasha anyway.
- 3:39So what's the halacha? So it depends who you ask.
- 3:44So first of all, the Araka Shokhan has a middle cheetah or
- 3:50whatever he doesn't do it to be. He thinks that's the Amis
- 3:53according to the Rama, or at least according to the halacha.
- 3:57He says that the Rama lipsaka, the Rama, that a shorter one
- 4:05doesn't undo it. He says that's true by a vesit
- 4:09khodesh the day of the month, but it's not true by haflaga.
- 4:13Whenever it's haflaga, even if it's shorter, it completely
- 4:17uproots it. So that's a middle shara
- 4:20Anyways, Lamaisa, it depends you ask.
- 4:22Some are mahmar like the taz and the Rama.
- 4:25Some are Mako all the way to the end.
- 4:27Some are Mako only, like the Arakashoghan.
- 4:30Some have a they make a difference for the Shana
- 4:33rishona. When you get married, they're a
- 4:35little more Mako for the first year.
- 4:36Anyway, it depends who you ask. And just one last caveat is just
- 4:41remember Vestos AR Durabana and the Naf kamina halakhala Maisa
- 4:46is not very common anyway. So OK, let's go to where we are.
- 4:52Udala kuf peytat udala haita regila lyros Yom esrin.
- 5:00The Isla bazerves. It's kabua.
- 5:02In other words, the case is she has a vested kabua.
- 5:05And the vested kabua is the 20th of the month, always kaf of the
- 5:11month, the shinta liyom Yom Sri. Oh wait, maybe it's a flaga.
- 5:18Whatever the case is, OK, she has a vesa kavua for the 20th
- 5:23and now 20th day or 20th of the month.
- 5:26I'm confused but she tell you I'm sloshing and now she goes to
- 5:29the 30th day. Zev Azuri.
- 5:32So what happens is she has a vesa kavua.
- 5:35So since she has a Vesa Kavua for 20, the 20th, 20th day, 20
- 5:39day of the month, whatever it is, she always has to worry
- 5:42about the 20th until there's an Akira of three times.
- 5:45Because again, the scenario is she has a Vesa Kavua 3 times a
- 5:50flogger, right? OK, right, OK, good.
- 5:53Now when she sees on the 30th day for this one time, right?
- 5:57It's how she still has a vessel Kabua of 20.
- 6:00Now she sees it once for the 30th Zevizasuri.
- 6:06So now you have to worry about both because there was a change.
- 6:09So now you have to worry that number one, maybe she still has
- 6:13a vesa kavua, so you have to worry about the 20th day.
- 6:16Or maybe now it's being changed since there was a change.
- 6:18You have to worry. Maybe now it's being changed to
- 6:20the 30th day, right? You don't have to worry about
- 6:24una benonit because she still does have vesit kavua.
- 6:30It wasn't uprooted. But you do have to worry about
- 6:33the 30th day, the haflaga. Fine.
- 6:35So then let's do that. Inside Zev is asturum kashyyam,
- 6:38asturum, the riyat shloshim. So the 20th day, right?
- 6:43Vasada fada. But it's the 20th day after the
- 6:46last time she saw, which was on the 30th day, right?
- 6:5029 days later, whatever asura mishum vasadarisham.
- 6:53So 20 days after the 30th, she has to worry about the
- 6:57vasadarisham, her vasada kavua vim loads your elbow.
- 7:01But if she doesn't see on the 20th, the 20th day still she
- 7:09still has to be worried about the 30th, right?
- 7:11Because she there was a change and maybe it's going to become a
- 7:15permanent change. So that's Sheeta amayim, Liam
- 7:19shloshim. And what if she changes 2 times?
- 7:22No difference, the same as changing one time.
- 7:25Zeviza Assurim, she has to worry about both of them, the 20th and
- 7:29the 30th, right? The 20th because that's the best
- 7:32of Kabua, the 30th because that's what she just saw the
- 7:35last time. This.
- 7:36First of all, this is a longer span, so this doesn't address
- 7:40the whole Mahlokas we just mentioned of the Rama.
- 7:43OK, let's continue. Zeviza Assurim, Shinta Shlosha.
- 7:47I mean, now there's three months in a row she doesn't see on day
- 7:5120, right? 60 days go by, she doesn't see
- 7:54on day 20. Lioma schlossim one second
- 7:57shinta shalosh pamelam schlossim.
- 7:59She switches 3 times to schlossim puta Yom estrim
- 8:05Vanessa Yom schlossim. So OK, so now in this case,
- 8:09we're going to see it depends. In this case, it looks like she
- 8:12gets a new Shinta 3 times to Yom Schlossim.
- 8:16So she gets a brand new vesit kavua and she uprooted her first
- 8:22one. So it's important to keep both
- 8:24in mind in this case, as as we're reading at this point, she
- 8:28uprooted he, she uprooted her vesit kavua because it's three
- 8:32times and she established a new vesit kavua because it was done
- 8:36three times for the thirty 30th day interval.
- 8:39OK, you almost Vanessa Yom Shoshim now Vimla Akasha Shinta
- 8:47APA a mine the Yom shlochim RA telesov astrem khazar vessel
- 8:55astrem in como vehutar shlochim. So let's say she it was only one
- 9:04or two times it was moved. She had a haflaga now of 30
- 9:09days, so she still has to worry about the first time vested
- 9:14kavua. But if 60 days go by, she's
- 9:18going to lose her vested kavua of 20 days.
- 9:22But she didn't yet establish right?
- 9:25She, she, I think she does because that's 20/20/20.
- 9:32We'll keep reading. Let me let me finish and then
- 9:35you'll see once she loses anytime a person loses their
- 9:41vest we're going to see this insight Well, you want to read
- 9:45it inside even more mafurish it's in the Shah in mem Aleph.
- 9:50What happens is anytime she loses 3 times, it changes.
- 9:56It's no longer the same pattern that she had three times like
- 10:00three 20s and that our example three 20s go by.
- 10:03She uproots her previous vessels, Kabbalah.
- 10:07But let's if she doesn't establish a new Vesit kavua,
- 10:16then she has to worry because it's Anna vesit kavua.
- 10:20But let me just read over here. Rata lasov astrem khazar vesit
- 10:27ESRIM como vehutar sloshim. She didn't get a new vested
- 10:32kavua of 30 days in this example 3 * 30.
- 10:36So the next time in her life she as long as she never has a new
- 10:41vested kavua for the rest of her life, she if she once sees on
- 10:47day 20, then she reestablishes her vested kavua and she does
- 10:54that's a that's becomes a real vesit kavua and it doesn't get
- 10:58uprooted until it's uprooted 3 times and it only takes one time
- 11:05to reestablish. See the Shah Namala and read
- 11:08Tadwaal Sheen tell Reutel Vilohishwa Otan if she changes
- 11:15they, they become different times.
- 11:17All right, she's not seeing, she doesn't establish yet with
- 11:2030303030 whatever three times intervals, she sees different
- 11:26times and she uproots her vesit kabua, the Loishvaotan, right?
- 11:32Kangon Shashinta Pam akas Liam Schlossen, right.
- 11:36It used to be 20, let's say now it went into 30 Vash Shaini, the
- 11:41Lama de base, and then it became Lama de base, Vash Lishi, Lama
- 11:44Dalit, and then it became 34 Nekhar vesit harisham.
- 11:51So now she uprooted her first vesit, the inla vesit kla, and
- 11:57she doesn't have a vesit kavua at all.
- 12:02But as the Shah and the Torah Shalamin point out, she still
- 12:07has to worry. Since now she doesn't have a
- 12:09vesit kavua, she now she has to worry about has to worry about
- 12:12the vesit, the possible vesita kodesh, onan, benonite and
- 12:17haflaga. And in this case that came up,
- 12:22she even has to worry la khumra of vesita diluk.
- 12:26But OK, that's al khazara. But the point is here, EIN la
- 12:29vesit klao means EIN la vesit kavua.
- 12:32Let's keep reading. This is the real point of the
- 12:35this the salaha, the IM Khazra Lerod byom ha vesit harisha.
- 12:40So she completely uprooted her vesit harisham and now she sees
- 12:46one time of the original vesit, the day 21 time Khazar lucviuso
- 12:54harisham. She goes back to the vesit kavua
- 12:57that she once had long ago, the khosheshit lo tamid.
- 13:01And she always has to worry about it.
- 13:04Ajiya karmimena shalosh pami until it's uprooted three times.
- 13:09As if yeah, I know, I know the Hua din lhabsika lierot shalosh
- 13:17onot and here and Hua din, if she stops 3 onot vihar ka khazra
- 13:23lierot bayon then havesit Risha khazra lierot bayon havesit
- 13:30harisha. So, so too the changes with the
- 13:34Ona day and night, and then it goes back to the same day period
- 13:38or night period, whatever it was.
- 13:39You only need one time to reinstate the vested Kargua.
- 13:48Fine, let's go on to Tedzion Coyote.
- 13:58I believe so. Tedzion Tedzion Coyote Bezer
- 14:08Dinakyard vasit Rasheh Kardashian.
- 14:10The same thing for an uprooting Vasila kodesh Keitzag or keitzag
- 14:16haita Regila lirad Barasheh Kardashian.
- 14:18She always sees on rash Kodesh the Alvar alea rash Kodesh
- 14:23valorata. But one rash Kodesh comes like
- 14:26all of us, she always sees and then comes, I don't know, ER,
- 14:31she doesn't see Valorata Koshesh at the rash Kodesh.
- 14:34She has to worry about the next rash Kodesh in Sivan aji abru
- 14:38alea shlosha roshe Kardashian. So three months in a row she
- 14:42always has to worry about Rosh Kodesh.
- 14:45But abru alea shlosha roshe Kardashian velorata 3 months go
- 14:50by and she has no riya ina khoshesh Islam.
- 14:54She doesn't have to worry about any Rosh Kodesh again in the
- 14:58future. However, Kazra Verata verosh
- 15:02Kodesh, she sees once on Roche Khodesh because she wasn't, she
- 15:06didn't get a new vasit kabua. So then Khazara vasit lincomo,
- 15:10she sees it, only has to see it once on a Roche Khodesh, and
- 15:13then it turns back into a vasit kavua that needs three more
- 15:18times to undo the vasit kavua. But if she actually had a new
- 15:21vasit kavua, right, if she wants she has a new vasit kavua, then
- 15:27she needs three times to reestablish a vasit kavua.
- 15:32Very good. OK, you'd sign.
- 15:34Now we're going to enter a little bit of a new topic or a
- 15:37subtopic of Vesitaguf. Again, when we talk about
- 15:42vesitaguf, there's two different terminologies that are used.
- 15:47One is Vesitaguf or Vesitaguf which is comes from a seaman, a
- 15:52sign, something in her body is signaling and it's telling you
- 15:58like let's say I don't know, strange hiccups, whatever it is
- 16:03sneezing, those things are a seaman that it's telling you
- 16:07that a vested is coming. That's one category, a vested
- 16:11hagoof fine. Another category.
- 16:14Some call it vested taunus and some call it vested hagoof, but
- 16:19a siba that's A cause like jumping or, I don't know,
- 16:25extreme extra or just any kind of exercising that's beyond
- 16:29what's normal. And that brings upon the the
- 16:33vesit. But they're kind of opposites.
- 16:35Just to point out, one is telling you that the vesit is
- 16:39coming and one causes the vesit to come.
- 16:42So the halakhas are a little bit different.
- 16:44OK, so let's start reading with yudzai.
- 16:47We'll start today at least beginning with vesit aguf yudzai
- 16:53ko vesit shaniqua mahmat onis kagonchikovsa verata.
- 16:58So the vessel is established. Anytime she does some kind of an
- 17:02it's an onus to her body. She does an act that brings it
- 17:06upon and it's, it's like an onus to the vessel that the vessel
- 17:11can't hold back. It's, it's caused by this action
- 17:14such as jumping or whatever it is.
- 17:17It could be carrying any intense movement, I don't know, heavy
- 17:22lifting. That's not normal.
- 17:24Whatever it is, Afilu ratabo kamapa Amin.
- 17:29Even though it happens a few times, imlokava OTA Ana yamin,
- 17:34it needs to be set with times inna vesit.
- 17:43It's not a vesit MI pene onas. It doesn't become a vesida onas.
- 17:49If it's not with particular days, we're going to see this is
- 17:52a Mahoka Shokanarathanarama OK rata Nicole Malcolm Koshesha
- 17:59Lokomo vessage Ena kavua. So here this is it.
- 18:03The Shokanara holds that a this type of vested it.
- 18:08If there's no days involved, you do not have to worry about it at
- 18:12all. Jumping can only become a vested
- 18:17kavua or any that you're Koshisha at all for even like a
- 18:21kavua, if it's tied to a particular date, the Rama holds
- 18:26that you, even if there's no days involved, if it's the
- 18:30action itself, then she has to she does have to worry about it.
- 18:34It's not going to be a vest. It's kavua, but she still has to
- 18:36worry about it. But you still have to worry
- 18:38about the other stuff. The bottom line is, based on her
- 18:42pattern, it has to be, you know, abnormal movement that she knows
- 18:45it brings it upon and and it becomes it's established.
- 18:51Kafta virata. Kafta virata.
- 18:54Yeah. If it happens multiple times,
- 18:57Kavala vesit liyamim and one second.
- 19:02Vesit Liya, one second. How does this go?
- 19:06Rata. Yeah, right.
- 19:15Because here she saw three times and jumped twice, right?
- 19:20I think that's what the case was.
- 19:22Rata kafta virata, kafta virata. So kavala vesit liyamim beloch
- 19:29feature that she had three times of a day specific same day
- 19:33intervals or same day of the month.
- 19:35So then she has to worry about the Yamim Kate said.
- 19:39Kaftsa. Well, let's see, let's see,
- 19:41Let's see his example, whatever it is.
- 19:43Kaftsa Beshaba, she jumps on Monday.
- 19:46Sunday. Vira TA dah lahar estrem Yong
- 19:50Kaftsa the ekhad, the Shabbos. So then 20 days later and
- 19:57Kaftsa, it's on Sunday. So it's 21.
- 20:00What are you thinking? So OK, then she sees on Sunday,
- 20:04she should be fine in 26. OK.
- 20:08After. Well, it depends if what month
- 20:10it is. No, No.
- 20:12Right. OK.
- 20:14I hear. Yeah.
- 20:17OK, I don't know kaftsa Shabbos Virat tadam.
- 20:21So she jumps on Sunday, right? And she sees bleeding ula akhar
- 20:29yutet Yom, and then after 19 days Yom kaftsa biyom and
- 20:36Shabbos. So then now it's on Shabbos
- 20:38where she sees the bleeding Velora tadam and she doesn't see
- 20:42bleeding ula akhara Shabbos rata bolokvizza.
- 20:46But then after Shabbos on Sunday she sees the bleeding without
- 20:50jumping. Hooray Nikba ekhad be Shabbos
- 20:56akhar Esri shahre noda shahyom garamla velohakfiza Lukavar and
- 21:04Nikba Yomze Shalosh pamim Bahrain called Coyote Baze.
- 21:14So in this case the the the the days did not line up 100% with
- 21:19the jumping and the pattern was consistent with the days, not
- 21:25with the jumping. So therefore the day the jumping
- 21:27is not relevant. It's only four days Kafts.
- 21:31Let me just read this real quick.
- 21:32Your head Kafts abiyom yadu I could go on by Rashkhodesh if
- 21:36she jumps on Rashkhodesh OB ekhad bishabis on Sunday Virat
- 21:39taboo V irakane bishalosh rasheh Kardashian OB ekhad bishabis 3
- 21:46times in a row. The jumping is on the same exact
- 21:49interval of the day, whether it's the the dates of the month
- 21:54or the day of the week. Kavala vesit.
- 21:58So now she has a vesit kavua and so anytime she jumps and has
- 22:06that day, she has to worry and write and then it can easily be
- 22:21uprooted if it's a change in the day or the the jumping and she
- 22:27like she doesn't jump. In other words, if they're tied
- 22:30together, then it's it's even easier to uproot it because it's
- 22:34only going to continue with that same vessel Kavua if it's always
- 22:37with the same jumping but the same time.