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FULL SHOW: JAŸ-Z In 8 HBO Docuseries Premieres In New York City + Dr. Jessica Clemons, Montell & Kristin Jordan Interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Woke up, woke up, wake you up, wake you up,
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  Speaker 1: wake that ass up, program your alarm to power 105.1
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  Speaker 1: Jess is out, what's up, Lauren?
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  Speaker 2: Good morning!
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  Speaker 1: Charlemagne the God! Peace to the planet, it's Monday! Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, black, and
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  Speaker 1: highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve
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  Speaker 1: our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. What's up, Lauren?
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling? I see you out and about Fashion Week.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I am tired, but I am here. I had
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  Speaker 2: a great week, great weekend, great night last night. Unc
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  Speaker 2: took me outside.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we was in these streets last night. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I got on shades right now. Why you have on shades?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like my eyes might be
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  Speaker 1: puffy or something.
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  Speaker 2: No, you got to hold them regular.
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  Speaker 1: You look fine. I look fine?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: You still feel like last night.
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  Speaker 1: Last night was fun.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a good time last night.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun. What'd you guys do last night?
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  Speaker 2: We went to Jay-Z's JN8 documentary premiere in New York.
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  Speaker 2: So I ended my fashion week with that, but fashion
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  Speaker 2: week's still going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still going on.
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  Speaker 4: It really started Thursday, but people just do their own thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro. I was at Avizu. Salute to Avizu.
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  Speaker 1: They had a fashion week. You didn't have much fun
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  Speaker 1: as us.
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  Speaker 5: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: You ain't have as much fun as us. I sure did.
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  Speaker 1: I think I had more fun than y'all. No, you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I sure did. I promise you, you did. I promise you,
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  Speaker 1: I did. I promise you, I did. You had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you, you did.
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  Speaker 6: She gonna report in a little bit what my weekend
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  Speaker 6: was like. But, uh, salute to everybody in the VESU.
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  Speaker 6: They had a fast week event. It was like a
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  Speaker 6: block party.
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  Speaker 3: What is a VESU?
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  Speaker 1: The jeans. Remember the jeans? These ain't... These is a VESU.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: They had a block party in, uh... I pulled up
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  Speaker 6: to them last night, and then I was in Detroit yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: And salute to everybody at Detroit at the Sandbox. And
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  Speaker 6: I got a chance to watch my Giants play last night.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants played last night? Not really. They didn't really play.
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  Speaker 1: It was no competition. That's crazy. We'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit. The football season started? Yeah, it started.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody started. Nah, it ain't started. It was no competition, though.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I didn't know it started. Did my team
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  Speaker 1: get the memo? No, they didn't get the memo. They
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  Speaker 1: definitely didn't get the memo. They didn't know what was
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  Speaker 1: going on. That's crazy. We'll talk about that in front page.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. Tell me about the Hove. What happened at
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  Speaker 1: the Hove event last night?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get into it in the latest, but
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  Speaker 2: it was exciting. I got to meet Jay-Z and Beyonce.
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  Speaker 1: You did? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: That's time.
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  Speaker 4: They introduced themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So humble. So humble.
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  Speaker 2: Jay-Z was like, I don't think we've met before.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jay.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, duh.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know how to respond to that because
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  Speaker 4: I wanted.
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  Speaker 1: To be like, duh.
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  Speaker 7: Lauren.
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  Speaker 1: No, I knew my name, but I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you telling me your name?
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  Speaker 1: They do that all the time. Beyonce does that all
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  Speaker 1: the time. That's what people of respect and honor and
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  Speaker 1: high integrity do.
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  Speaker 4: Very much so. It was a great night, great room,
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  Speaker 4: but just a good time.
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  Speaker 2: But the conversation and that documentary, when it drops and
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  Speaker 2: people get to watch it, It's going to be real.
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  Speaker 1: When does it come out?
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  Speaker 4: It comes out on the 18th.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't see it in full either, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't.
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  Speaker 4: We only saw it. I believe it was just a
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  Speaker 4: full episode. We only saw a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Was that just an episode?
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if it was a full episode,
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  Speaker 4: but we saw a part of the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I didn't even think about that. That might
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  Speaker 1: have been a whole episode.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like it.
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  Speaker 1: It was great, though. Yeah, because it was like an
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  Speaker 1: hour long. But I thought, for whatever reason, I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking that they were just going to do one song
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  Speaker 1: an episode. But no, they do like three or four
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  Speaker 1: songs an episode.
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  Speaker 2: And it releases in full on the 18th. But you're
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  Speaker 2: going to write down what it's about. Yeah, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to write down what it's about. And we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get into kind of, you know, what it's about. what
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  Speaker 2: we got to watch and some of the things.
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  Speaker 1: It's about what all of this should be about, and
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  Speaker 1: that's culture.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Music and culture. You know what I'm saying? Like, when
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  Speaker 1: we think about what we do, it's really music, and
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  Speaker 1: it's the intersectionality of music and, you know, sometimes, well,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times, fashion, you know? But, yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: about culture. Okay. It's 30 years of a prolific career.
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  Speaker 1: I would never, ever in my life downplay the inspiration
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  Speaker 1: that somebody like Jay-Z provides for a human like me.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Never ever. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan ain't still sweating from last night.
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  Speaker 1: I see him still sweating. He's sweating. He just got in.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even drink. It's just everything was hot last night.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't think everything was hot? It was humid.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I was just enjoying it. It was humid outside last night.
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  Speaker 1: It was humid outside for a little bit. Then it
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: was cool in the building. Then it was cool in
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  Speaker 1: the building. But it felt like somebody turned the AC off.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a little hot. Then you start dancing.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But that was last night.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you still wiping sweat? Because I just ran
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  Speaker 1: up them stairs. Okay, that's the reason why. I just
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  Speaker 1: ran up them two flights of stairs. Well, let's get
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  Speaker 1: this show cracking. And I had on a jacket when
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  Speaker 1: I walked in here. I don't know why. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. And I was jogging down the block to
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  Speaker 1: get here.
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  Speaker 6: Let's get this show cracking. Kristen and Montel Jordan will
• 4:23
  Speaker 6: be joining us. They have a new children's book, Shiloh
• 4:25
  Speaker 6: and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed. I thought it
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  Speaker 6: was Under His Bed.
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  Speaker 1: It's above his bed? Yeah, it's under his bed. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why. Not so scary?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Above his bed because the monster is told from the
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  Speaker 1: perspective of the monster. Right, you're right. So the monster's
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  Speaker 1: under the bed. And also, man, Dr. Jessica Clemons will
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  Speaker 1: be joining us today. Dr. Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: And the reason I really wanted her here this morning
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  Speaker 1: is because all of these conversations we're having about postpartum
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  Speaker 1: psychosis because of the Lindsay Clancy case. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: World Mental Health Day is right around the corner, so...
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  Speaker 1: She's a great person to have here to talk to
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  Speaker 1: this morning. All right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, let's get the show cracking. Today is Nas' birthday. Queens,
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  Speaker 6: get the money. Can we get some Nas on this morning?
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  Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Nasir. I'll take that. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 6: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
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  Speaker 6: the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with some football. Seriously, the NFL started? The
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  Speaker 1: Lions beat the Saints 31-30. Shoot to everybody in Detroit.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: What up, Doe? The Ravens beat the Colts. The Jets, wow.
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  Speaker 6: Jets beat the Titans 23-10. The Steelers beat the Falcons.
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  Speaker 6: Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals beat the Chargers. Eagles beat
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  Speaker 6: the Commanders. Raiders beat the Dolphins. The Bears squashed the
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  Speaker 6: Panthers 59-37. The Bills beat the Texans. The Jaguars beat
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  Speaker 6: the Browns. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and them Giants, where you at, Trav? I
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: see you all in the game, all in the video.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants beat the Cowboys 28-20. I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: the NFL season started, Joe. I was watching college football.
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina State, they beat Virginia State 66-0. Okay, USC,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina Gamecocks, they busted ass on Saturday as well.
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  Speaker 6: Cowboys looked bad last night. The Cowboys played? I don't believe.
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  Speaker 3: This, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Giants are going to the Super Bowl!
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  Speaker 2: Didn't it just start?
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. The Cowboys got smacked. They got squashed. Now,
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: slow down. The score was 28-20. I thought you'd watch
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: the game. I didn't, but I heard. Somebody told me.
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: The score was 28-20. I was out and about last night.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing about it. The game, the score was 28-20.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, y'all busted ass. We did bust ass.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: We did bust ass. Number Friday, oh, y'all gonna lose.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: You shut down. You know my squad. You know what
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: we got. There's no way I said that Friday. There's
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: no way I said that Friday because I didn't even
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: know the season was starting Sunday. Good morning, Mimi.
• 6:35
  Speaker 9: Good morning, MB, Sheldon, Lauren. How y'all doing this morning?
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Tamisha Brown from Howard University.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning.
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  Speaker 10: Front Page News is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan, America's
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  Speaker 1: Okay, B & B!
• 6:55
  Speaker 9: Hey, okay, let's get right into this.
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  Speaker 10: So President Trump this morning, you guys, is doubling down
• 7:00
  Speaker 10: on those $ 5, 000 checks we told you about last week.
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  Speaker 10: He's promising those checks to every American adult if Republicans
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  Speaker 10: keep control of Congress. Now, Trump, he first announced this
• 7:11
  Speaker 10: idea last week, and on Sunday, he was asked, this
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  Speaker 10: was yesterday when he was in Ireland, he was asked
• 7:16
  Speaker 10: whether Congress would have to approve the money and whether
• 7:19
  Speaker 10: the government could actually afford it.
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  Speaker 9: Let's listen.
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  Speaker 11: If the Republicans win, as I said, it's $ 5, 000 to
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  Speaker 11: all adults in the country, and we can easily handle that.
• 7:29
  Speaker 11: because we're taking in so much money. We've never done better.
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  Speaker 11: The Democrats can't make that pledge because it'll all go
• 7:35
  Speaker 11: to hell right away. If the Democrats get in, you'll
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  Speaker 11: go into a depression.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: If we get in, we will continue this incredible situation.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, we have the strongest, we're the strongest we've
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  Speaker 9: ever been.
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  Speaker 11: We have trillions of dollars coming into the country. And
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  Speaker 11: the 5,000 is going to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I made that pledge. I always keep my pledge. This
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  Speaker 1: is what I don't understand, right? Like, you know, Republicans
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  Speaker 1: currently control both chambers of the U.S. Congress. Why don't
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: somebody just ask him a simple question? How come you
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  Speaker 1: just don't give people the checks now?
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  Speaker 9: Right now.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: Why you just don't do it right now? Like, I
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: don't understand why the media is even playing this game
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: with him. Somebody's had to ask him that already, right?
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  Speaker 10: I thought of it because right now there's already Republicans
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  Speaker 10: and both in the Senate and in the House and
• 8:18
  Speaker 10: the presidency.
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  Speaker 1: So they hold majorities in both of them in the
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  Speaker 1: House and Senate. You cut the check now.
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  Speaker 12: Exactly.
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  Speaker 9: Exactly.
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  Speaker 10: But it's important to say that critics are calling this
• 8:27
  Speaker 10: a campaign bribe, an attempt to buy votes, and they
• 8:30
  Speaker 10: are telling voters not to fall for it.
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  Speaker 9: And so we will continue to follow that.
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  Speaker 10: But Congress would also have to vote on something like that.
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  Speaker 10: The president does not have the power to just give
• 8:40
  Speaker 10: everyone a $ 5, 000 check. And this morning, there's a major
• 8:45
  Speaker 10: shakeup coming to SNAP benefits, and it's supposed to happen
• 8:48
  Speaker 10: at the end of September. So This is all part
• 8:51
  Speaker 10: of President Trump's one big, beautiful bill. So there are
• 8:54
  Speaker 10: already work requirements in place, which have made it harder
• 8:57
  Speaker 10: for people to keep their SNAP benefits, not to mention
• 9:00
  Speaker 10: the administrative hurdles signing up now takes. Those extra steps
• 9:05
  Speaker 10: have led people, you know, just being kicked off the program.
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  Speaker 10: And now what's new this morning is the question of
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  Speaker 10: who is going to bear the cost of SNAP, the
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  Speaker 10: administrative costs. So right now states pay half, but starting
• 9:16
  Speaker 10: October 1st, they'll pay 75%, and that could lead to
• 9:21
  Speaker 10: more people being kicked off because that's a bigger burden
• 9:24
  Speaker 10: for states to bear.
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  Speaker 9: So right now it's 50-50.
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  Speaker 10: Starting October 1st, states will have to take on more
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  Speaker 10: of that cost and pay 75%. Food access groups, they're
• 9:33
  Speaker 10: calling for Congress to push this back. They say states
• 9:37
  Speaker 10: need more time to figure out how they're going to
• 9:39
  Speaker 10: come up with this extra funding so that people do
• 9:41
  Speaker 10: not get kicked off of their SNAP benefits. So we
• 9:44
  Speaker 10: will continue to watch that. And lastly, you may have
• 9:47
  Speaker 10: noticed that gas prices keep creeping.
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  Speaker 1: Back up in national average. They are high.
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  Speaker 12: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: They have definitely gone way back up.
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  Speaker 10: So just 13 cents in the last week, about 30
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  Speaker 10: cents in this month.
• 9:59
  Speaker 9: So we're at about $ 4.
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  Speaker 10: 30. But the diesel, diesel may be the bigger story.
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  Speaker 10: It is now the highest it's ever been, topping $ 6
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  Speaker 10: a gallon nationwide. The average is $ 6. In California, it's
• 10:12
  Speaker 10: like $ 8. 30 for the first time. And that matters because
• 10:15
  Speaker 10: even if you don't drive diesel, you don't drive. Truckers
• 10:18
  Speaker 10: do in those trucks. They move your food. They move
• 10:20
  Speaker 10: your clothes. Just about anything you buy. And so here's
• 10:23
  Speaker 10: what everyday people are saying about the gas prices.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy out here. You work so hard to
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: make ends meet and... take care of your family, and
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: next thing you know, gas went up overnight.
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  Speaker 13: I just wish that gas prices were a lot cheaper
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  Speaker 13: so we could all do things that are extra, you know,
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  Speaker 13: like groceries.
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  Speaker 10: It's now $ 48 to fill my, to do a half
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  Speaker 10: a tank.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that awful? That's a crime. And your president got
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  Speaker 1: the nerve to tell y'all we're going to a depression.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: If Dems get back in power in the midterms, the
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: truth of the matter is we might, though, because we
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: are already on that trajectory because of Donald Trump and
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: all the foolish policies he's implemented that have us in
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: this current debacle that we're in. All right.
• 11:02
  Speaker 10: Coming up at seven, we're learning more about the mysterious
• 11:05
  Speaker 10: death of Tasia Fortune. Police say they have arrested a suspect,
• 11:08
  Speaker 10: but we'll tell you why some people don't. Or having
• 11:11
  Speaker 10: a hard time believing that it was actually the suspect.
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  Speaker 9: We'll get into it.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
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  Speaker 6: If you need to vent, maybe you had a great week.
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  Speaker 1: And Trav, you want to call? Let me tell you
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: something else. Huh, Trav?
• 11:22
  Speaker 8: Y'all there?
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Menopause is real. Don't ever think menopause is not real
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: when you get to a certain age. That's why you
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: see some men of a certain age just walk around
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: with a towel. You know what I'm saying? I did
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  Speaker 1: not drink nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Also, just some advice. Take the book out of there
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  Speaker 2: and it'll be better.
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  Speaker 1: The book ain't in here, crazy human.
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  Speaker 2: That's better for you to fan with.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: That'd be too heavy. You need a fan. There's a
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: million and one fans in here. This guy drank last night.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Look at him.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't see.
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  Speaker 4: I only gave him water.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Look at him. I didn't drink nothing last night, boy.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Look at him.
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  Speaker 5: 800-585-1051.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Desi,
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: what up?
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  Speaker 2: Are we live?
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest.
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 8: We can get on the phone right now.
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  Speaker 1: He'll tell you what it is. Are we live? Hello,
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: who's this? Damien from Connecticut. Damien from Connecticut. What up, Damien?
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Get it off your chest. Yo, Envy, how we feeling?
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: Johnny says, won last night.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: I feel great. How you feel, Damien? Yo, I feel great.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's always good to beat them boys week one.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Yo, shut the hell up. It didn't even happen. You
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: making up stuff. We look good yesterday, too, man.
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: I told everybody. We going to be pretty good. Our
• 12:29
  Speaker 6: O-line just need to be a little better, but we
• 12:31
  Speaker 6: look pretty good last night.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Did Odell look good?
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: Nah, thanks.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: Odell ain't really looking good. Odell was burned. Odell ain't? Oh, okay.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say he looked good
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: because you always thought he was cute. No, he didn't
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: get too much burn last night.
• 12:42
  Speaker 8: Bye.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: That's all you got for us, David? Bye.
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 12:46
  Speaker 8: I love you, man.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, love you too.
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: He a little hurt. He a little hurt. He a
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: little hurt.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not hurt.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know the game happened last night. Yes,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: you did.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 12:54
  Speaker 9: Who's this?
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: Hi. Good morning. Good morning. Is Jess here?
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: No, Jess is up.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: No, she took off. She had, I think, like six,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: seven shows this weekend in Baltimore, so I'm sure she's up.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: That ain't no excuse to take off, but she took off.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: It's not, but she did take off.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: Hi, DJ and V. Hi, Charlamagne. I watch y'all every morning.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: Peace. How are you?
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: I'm doing okay. I want to get something off my chest.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, mama.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: So I lost one of my pups probably about two
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: months ago.
• 13:24
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: And my daughter was the one that witnessed it. I
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: didn't even see it, and she's only six. And, you know,
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: the last couple of months, She was just saying, like, Mom,
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: you know, I want another dog. And I was like, okay, well,
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: I started searching. And, you know, I did, like, Facebook
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: Marketplace and everything the same way I got my other dog.
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: And I purchased so many things, and I've never had
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: an issue. Well, I found a dog, and it was
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: so cute, and I showed it to her. And we
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: drove about an hour, and I paid a deposit. And
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: when we got there, they blocked me. And it wasn't
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: even about the money. It was more so... My daughter
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: just crying and crying and saying, why do people lie?
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Why did they block you? Yeah, what happened? Why did
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: they block you?
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: They didn't want to pay. I think it was just
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: a scam. They didn't really have the dog. They just
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: really took my deposit.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. You said the dog was coming from where?
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: Well, I live in Louisiana, and so they were meeting
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: me closer to Laplace. So I drove me and my
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: daughter about an hour to meet them. And it was
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: so hard just watching her just so upset that she
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: was like, why would people do this?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: What kind of dog was it?
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: What kind of dog?
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: It was a small little brown teacup poodle. It was
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: the cutest thing.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: It was a teacup with the small ones?
• 14:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: And it's just, you know, people are just so mean.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: And I told her, I said, look, we're going to
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: find you one. We're going to find somebody that's honest.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: And I said, next time, You know, we're going to get.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: You a dog. Why don't you go to the local
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: shelter and rescue one of those dogs? Yeah, go adopt
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: a dog. I didn't know people buy dogs off Facebook Marketplace. But,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: you know, think about going to the shelter and getting
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: one of those dogs that, like, actually need a home and,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: you know, are close. I don't want to say close
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: to death, but, you know. Yeah, go adopt a dog.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: I wanted to be, you know, a little.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: Cute, small, like what I did have. I had a
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: small Pomeranian. I think she just liked dogs.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, the small dogs.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Tiny, and then, you know, she could be having a
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: bed with her and things like that. She just has
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: this visualization.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Of what she wants.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? I know this might
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: be a little too dramatic, but how did she witness
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the dog passing? Like, what happened?
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: Well, we still went by the acre of land, but
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: whenever she was leaving with my grandmother, the dog ran
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: out the house behind them and ran.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Into the street. Damn!
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: So, it was, like, right in front of her. So,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: when I heard her screaming, that's when I came out.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: And Man, I witnessed something like that when I was young, man.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: My cousin, I don't even want to say his name,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: but he had a little dog and that dog got
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: loose and ran off into the highway while we was
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: at the bus stop waiting on the bus and got
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: hit by a car. And the way he screamed and
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: ran into the middle of the highway and dropped to
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: his knees was so sad.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: You just never forget it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't see it, but what I am grateful for that,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: you know, when Hazel did pass. It only broke her neck,
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: but it wasn't like splattered blood.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I was crazy.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Now, come on now. That was crazy. Why would you
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: say it like that now? That's what you mean only
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: broke its neck. That was horrible. I'm so sorry for you.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Could you stop? Thank you so much for calling in. Listen,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I hope that y'all find a dog, though. I didn't
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: know you buy dogs off Facebook marketplace.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: If y'all know anybody, or if anybody knows.
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: Someone in the Louisiana area, Areas that sell small dolls.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I would just like them to reach out via email
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: or something. Can I get my email?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: It's Elisa, E-L-I-S-A, Marsalis. M-A-R-S-A-L-I-S at yahoo.com.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Alyssa, I don't want you to think I'm laughing at you.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want nobody that's watching to think I'm laughing.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Because our boy, Brad, is so stupid. He talking about, no,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: she can't go to the shelter because the shelter only
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: got pit bulls. Like, the pit bulls are just so downtrodden. No,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I ain't no liar. They got all types of dogs
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: in the shelter. Like, the pit bulls are so wild.
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: It might let you traumatize her.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Like, if you see a dog, like, near death.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to say near death. I don't know
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to say
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the shelter is a good place to go get dogs.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: A lot of these dogs need a home. Just think
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: of these dogs as little tiny orphans. Little four-legged orphans
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that need a home. Imagine if Annie was a puppy.
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: But that's why your mom, I tell you sometimes, don't ask, right?
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Because if you ask, you might not really want to
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: know what happened to the dog. You don't have to
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: ask that. She said the dog passed away. That's all
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: you needed to know. No, I didn't want to know
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: because I did witness the dog. I witnessed the dog
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: get hit by a car before, man.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, my cousin, and it's just the way he,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it was his reaction, not the fact that the dog
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: fell out.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I discovered my dog dead.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: He looked to the sky and screamed, his blood curdling screams,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and he ran out in the highway and dropped to
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: his knees. And we were like, you're going to get
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: hit next if you don't get up the road.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, he was on his knees.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: On his knees in the highway. In the highway. Highway 17,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: eight months going to South Carolina. I'll never forget that
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: as long as I live. It's Monday. Get it off
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: your chest. 800-585-451. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: way that you dress. Everything with me is best. Call
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: up now, 800-585-1051. Not just me, I'm what the coach
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: will feel it. Yo, it's Q from Atlanta. Q, what's up, Q? Peace, Q.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: What's up?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Today's my birthday.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Holy * * * *, I'm on the phone with y'all.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Q.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Q.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: How old are you, young man? Appreciate it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I just turned 35 today. Okay.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Congratulations, young man. Happy birthday, brother.
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: Hey, and I want to.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Tell y'all something. Like, last year, my third grade best
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: friend called.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: In, and I heard him on the radio and whatnot.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That was so dope.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: What's her name? Doe. It was Mark, but I'm Q,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and we went to school together. Hold on. You said her,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: but then you said Mark. No, he said my best
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: friend from third grade. He didn't say he or she. Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I thought you said her, didn't Mark.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: His name was Mark.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: His name was Mark.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Because it can change. He could have been Mark in
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: third grade. He might be Michelle now. Q is from Atlanta, so. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But yeah, appreciate y'all.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday, King. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Have a good day.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Have some fun on this Monday, man. Enjoy life. Celebrate it. Hello,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: who's this?
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Hey, good morning.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: How y'all doing? What's up, bro?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the gym right now. I'm getting punished
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: for just a show last night. I'm on the show.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: That's nasty, man. You in the gym getting punished and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: putting on a show.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I got one of the pounds from last night.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: He said he went to just a show last night, right?
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Here and so i.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Want to show you i want to show love to
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: jess man speaking was so amazing uh she had a
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: special way of making people so soon and known even
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: though she talked to a thousand people and for some
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: reason she remembered me she said what's funny um you
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: know you see the work that she puts behind the
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: scenes from how she shows up on the stage you
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: can tell she put in those thousand hours of work
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: to do what she does And she does so much
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: by my heart. I want to say tears because of
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: how much work she puts in. Even when she has
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: a family, children. And also got to see both her
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: husband and her baby father at the book sign.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. That's what's up. That's all we can do.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: We're looking forward to seeing more.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I'll write it up. Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: This is Dee Dee.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, Dee Dee. Good morning. He's Dee Dee.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: I'm calling with some boldness behind my voice this morning.
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: Good morning, Breakfast Club.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Good morning, ma'am.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: How you feeling?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I'm doing fabulous.
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: I'm calling from Chicago, and I just want to share
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: my favorite Bible verse with y'all. It's Mark 11, 24,
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: and it says, Therefore I say unto you, whatever you
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: ask for in prayer, believe you have received it, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: it shall be yours.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And it shall be yours. Yes, ma'am.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: Listen, I also would like to boldly ask if Lauren
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: LaRosa would be my mentor.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Lauren still need a mentor.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: First of all, I have mentors.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: How old are you, ma'am?
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: I would love to be her mentee.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Her mentee. How old are you?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: You're never escalating for age.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm in my mid-30s.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think that matters. I don't think age matters
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: when it comes to mentorship.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: What are you looking for in mentorship?
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: It's her wisdom, and it's her connection. And, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: I'm really trying to get into boys' work. And, you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: it doesn't have to be a longstanding mentorship. I know
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: she's busy, but I would just really love to get,
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: you know, Pour into her and let her know that
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: she's amazing, and I know that she would be an
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: amazing mentor as well.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: How much did she pay you to call in and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: say this this morning?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: Not one dime.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Not one dime.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: We can take your email. I've never done voice work,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: but I mean, I guess, is radio voice work?
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's media and all that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It's media, yeah. Is that what you want to do?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: You want to be in media?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: She wants to do voice work.
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: I absolutely do, yeah. I mean, if you need some
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: voiceover work for a black privilege publishing, listen. I'm here.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: We always need people to read audio books. That's very interesting.
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: Listen, if I could offer a critique, listen, the commercials,
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: I am an avid Apple podcast listener, and the commercials
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: that y'all have there, that guy with the sinus situation, listen,
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: I would love to replace him.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: The sinus situation. What guy with the sinus situation?
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: You have a guy that does ads.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: On what?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: iHeart or Black Effect?
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: Apple Podcast.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Apple Podcast? I got to go listen.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: We're going to put you on hold.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Somebody called me the other day and told me about,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: I guess, the wildfires that they say are still going on.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: I guess that they've been playing the same commercials and
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: they're saying that the weather's never right.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a production issue.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because somebody tweeted me one day and was like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it is not, whatever degrees I said it was, it
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: was like, it is not that degrees. Can they update it?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. Listen, that's the producers and the programmers.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares about micromanaging radio stations anymore. They just don't
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: give a damn. Well, get it off your chest.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: 800-585-1051.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: D's on line two, by the way, guys. D's what?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Dee Dee, that's the lady that just called that you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: just spoke to. Oh, see, you could hit me with
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a good Dee's nuts in your mouth joke just now
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: because I wasn't even thinking about it. You sure he
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't drinking that? I did not drink nothing that was
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on water, boy.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: He's naturally thinking about those in his mouth. That was
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: on water?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was on water. No, nothing. See, it's hard
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: for me to sleep on Sunday nights anyway for whatever
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: reason it's been hard for me to sleep on Sunday
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: nights for years. So I didn't have a problem being
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: out last night. You know what I'm saying? What time
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we left last night?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Like 12?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: 12 something, yeah. I got home like 1 something. Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: because it was like 145 when I was laying in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the bed. Well, the latest with Lauren's up next. What
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: are we talking about?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to get into our night last night.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And we got a big announcement that Envy's going to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: help me do.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to help you. Big announcement.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about it in the latest.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Is this really how you want to reveal your pregnancy? Wow.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Stop playing with me.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Wow, congrats. No, I had a bunch. Who's the father?
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I drank last night. First of all, don't ever.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Damn, that was crazy. Yes. Don't play crazy.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, you would.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, you would. Yes, you would.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: In real life, you would.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, 100% would.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not pregnant. We have another announcement. It involves
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: the Knicks.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: We'll get to it next. Y'all are pissing me off.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: That was wild. I don't know why he would do
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that to you. What, what, what, what, what you want
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: to know? The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Because you particularly
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: That source is trusted. Did you hear that exclusive?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Lauren, I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: everything and everything.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: She be having the latest on things.
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: You ask the questions that need to be answered.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: On The Breakfast Club.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: If little brown girls look at you and go, I
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: want to be like you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: LL Cool B, talk to me.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: So last night, well, first of all, good morning again.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, LL Cool Bay, Lauren LaRosa. Oh, Lord.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So last night, if y'all wondering why Charlamagne is sitting
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: in here with these glasses on, if you can't hear him,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: you will hear Unc still whatever he was on a
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: high from last night because you didn't drink.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: It's just dopamine. It's all dopamine. No alcohol, no drugs,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: no edibles. This is just all dopamine. That's all.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: So we were out last night.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: We went to Jay-Z's Jay-Z in 8 documentary premiere here,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: world premiere here in New York City. Now this went
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: down it first of all it was just beautiful from
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: start to finish like it went down at the Metropolitan
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Opera House here in New York and you walk in
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Not even inside as soon as you walked in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: outside like area, right? It was set up and there
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: was like a live orchestra playing all of Jay-z's music.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It was everybody in suits like it was Yes, they
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: had a lot you see you was once we.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Got in there, you know Charlamagne He say hi to everybody.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: You can't go nowhere with Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm Once you got to the red carpet part, yes,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: you walked in, there was a orchestra in the middle
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: that was set up.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: We also came in toward the end of it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: It was kind of breaking down and we were heading
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: inside at the same time too. But yeah, so black suits,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: everybody dressed to the nine, bars set up everywhere. Like
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: people walking around with the Ace of Spades from the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: beginning of the event, Envy.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: So we finally are on our on our way in.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: How about the bathroom line be so long at Roc
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Nation events, by the way?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I did have to wait in the bathroom line twice.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Really? Yes. I mean, yes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't do that bad last night.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I didn't do that bad for you is bad for anybody. OK, well,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I was monitoring her as well.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: He was on my way in. I'm walking in and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I turned to I didn't even get the fully turn.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Jay-Z is right there. He's like, I don't know if
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: we've ever met.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I'm Jay.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, I want to say, yeah, you are.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what she did too.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Thank God.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Angela Rye was standing next to me and she was like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: she made a joke of it. She was like, yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: she didn't know. She had no idea.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Cause I was like, I can't believe he just, cause
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I was going to go.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Lauren. And he goes, Hey, I'm Jay.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, you are like him. And I met Beyonce
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: as well last night too. At the after event that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: we went to some of the nicest people ever.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Ever, ever.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was it was a great event. So
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: we got inside of the theater and we sat down
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and watched the I don't even know if it was
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: like a full episode, but it was it was a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: good enough portion of some of the documentary that Jay-Z
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: has coming on September 18th with Rick Rubin.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: So what's the documentary about? That's the only thing I'm
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: unclear about. Was that a full episode and we watched
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: one episode?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Or was it pieced together?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Or was it pieced together? I don't know.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I can't answer that question right now. And I should
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: have asked last night, but I think I was just
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: so in the moment. But I'll be able to answer
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: it shortly. So the documentary is about Jay-Z's music and career.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You know, he's celebrating 30 years, Reasonable Doubt. But this
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: documentary is eight total episodes. The first two are going
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: to drop on September 18th in New York. they use
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: his songs to break down his journey. Not even just
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: like as an artist, but like from when he was
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: nine years old up until coming into, you know, like
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a man and a father and a husband.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: And they literally really break down the music.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Like you're watching the words on screen and, Him reacting
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: to it in real time.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Some of the songs he hadn't heard since he put out. So, like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: you see the raw emotion.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Wow. Well, 444, he said he hardly ever listens to.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, that was just even uncomfortable to watch
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: in the room.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Beyonce and Jay-Z sitting right behind.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: You as it's happening.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You know, Envy, that's the song where he apologized. Don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: say you know. Don't throw that on me. I don't
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: want to know. We know. Don't act like we don't.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not going back there. Neither am I. I'm just
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: saying we know how that feels to be in there. So,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, I could never watch this in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: front of people. This is something I might do. Like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you know, you'll write about it in a book, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: then people will read about it on their own. But
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to watch that in front of people.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: The song Charlamagne is talking about, guys, is the song
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: where Jay-Z is talking about, you know, when Blue Ivy
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and their children grow up and he has to explain,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: you know, some of the different things that have went
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: down in their relationship and how that's going to impact
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: him and their family as a man and just those conversations.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Great night.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Thanks for the invite, Char.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Listen, I will never, ever downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: has provided in my life. I will never downplay the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole generation. Okay? And
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: this generation calls it glazing. I call it celebrating excellence.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And we should all hope that we do something or
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: have some type of career that can be celebrated in
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: 30 years. Because we're celebrating 30 years of Reasonable Doubt,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: 25 years of The Blueprint. those things deserve to be celebrated.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yep.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And I have some audio or some video of Jay-Z
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: on the Brown Girl Grinding Instagram. Make sure you guys
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: go check that out. He actually welcomed us when we
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: sat down in the theater. But before we get out,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of here, I do want to make an announcement. Speaking
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of New York, the Knicks City Kids Dancers, now these
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: are the official youth dance team for the New York Knicks.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: They perform with the team.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Envy's daughters, two of Envy's daughters, yes, both of his
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: daughters made the team. Now, this is really, really competitive
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to do. Over a thousand kids tried out. They picked
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: about 26 kids. Envy, I know your daughter's been dancing for,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: both of them have been dancing for about two years.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a very short amount of time, two and about
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: two and a half years. And out of all those
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: kids that tried out, both of them made the team.
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: So that's why I said we were celebrating all week long.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: You dropped a bomb for them one time.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Congratulations. Which is... Amazing.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: So they will be at the home games dancing. So
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: I will probably be at every Knicks game now. If
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: I have to buy a ticket or not, I will
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: be there watching my babies dance. So I am super
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: duper excited. I am so proud of them.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Big year.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Big year for them to be a part of that team.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You know what it is? It's the work. It's the effort.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: It's the fact that they practice when nobody tells them to.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: It's the fact that they push themselves to be better.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: It's the fact that they're always online watching other dancers dance.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: And the fact that dad is there and got a
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: chance to see that this week it was their first rehearsal.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: So I got to see them dance with the other kids.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It's just dope, man. Is that translating to dollars now?
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It's a big gig. It's a big gig. So they
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: get paid for rehearsals.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: They get paid for actually dancing on when they dance
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: in the garden.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: They get money for it. So this is their first job.
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: So they're super duper excited.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: This is a crazy first job.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't even think about.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: It like that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yes. My daughter was a cheer. I'm a cheer dad.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Ain't no money in check. All we do is spin, spin, spin.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: How old is she? One is 10, one is 13. Wow.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And they're already making money off dance.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Congratulations, Envy.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: You gear in the family. That is a major accomplishment.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: I know they're listening this morning, probably on their way
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: to school. I love you guys.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Congratulations.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: I'm so proud, man. It brought tears to my face
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: just watching them. Because they just started.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Two years ago.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You always cry every time they dance. Every time I've
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: seen them dance and I've watched.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Them, you cry.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Your father, man. Proud father.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: But it was a beautiful celebration of the things over
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: the weekend, I'm sure.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was great.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: Again, congratulations and salute to the New York Knicks and
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: the New York Knicks City kids and the dancers.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys and I'm happy.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Now, when we come back, we got front page news.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Mimi will be joining us and then Dr. Jess will
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: be joining us.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: You know Dr.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: Jess.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: She's been up here many times. Ask Jess. We're going
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to talk to him in a little bit. It's The
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: Good morning.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: We are The Breakfast Club.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: Let's get in some front page news. Now let's start
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: off with some quick sports. Last night, the Lions beat
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: the Saints. The Ravens beat the Colts. Jets beat the Titans.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Steelers beat the Falcons. The Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: beat the Chargers. Eagles beat the Commanders. Raiders beat the Dolphins.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Bears beat the Panthers. Bills beat the Texans. The Jaguars
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: beat the Browns. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And the Giants... The New York Giants beat the Cowboys 28-20.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: You're putting a lot on this for no reason. But
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you mean you're going to the Super Bowl. Yes, we're
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. No, you're not. We're 0-1.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: You're 1-0.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Yes, we're undefeated right now. The Giants are undefeated. Nobody
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: beat us. We are undefeated.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Y'all just got here.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So what? You're putting too much sauce on this for
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: no reason. No, I'm not.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: And tonight, the Broncos take on Kansas City Chiefs on ESPN.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Hello, Mimi.
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: Hilarious envy. Undefeated. All right, y'all.
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: Front Page News is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan, America's
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: largest law firm. So let's get into this Tasia Fortune story.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Have you guys heard about this arrest?
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: No, I haven't.
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so there was an arrest made in the death
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: of Tasia Fortune. She was a 29-year-old black woman who
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: was found hanging from the tree in Mississippi. We talked
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: about this. Probably a couple of weeks ago, her body
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: was found on August 3rd. For weeks, there were questions
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: about exactly what happened, how she died. And now Mississippi
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: State Medical Examiner, they have officially ruled her death a homicide.
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: Police have arrested a suspect and charged him with murder.
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: Jackson Police, they announced the arrest. Let's listen to that
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: press conference.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: We secured two search warrants and an arrest warrant for
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: Jacques Ratliff, also known as Jacques.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Ratliff was not at the location when officers arrived.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: However, as our staff and team were returning to JPD headquarters,
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: they encountered Mr.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Ratliff walking along Capitol Street.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: Officers took him into custody without any incident. That arrest
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: today is an important development in this investigation, but it
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: is not the conclusion. This case remains active. An additional
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: arrest will be pending as our investigators continue to follow
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: the evidence wherever it leads.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: That's horrible, man. And it's sad that we keep hearing
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: so much about these lynchings that are happening. It's like
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you don't even know the names because you just hear
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: every day. Every other day, it's like, oh, another person
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: got found. Another person got found. I forgot all about it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think I heard about the Tasia Fortune case.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: If I did, I don't remember the name. When did
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: this happen?
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: This happened on August 3rd.
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: We talked about it here, but at the time, she
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: was found behind an abandoned building and people were just
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: trying to figure out what happened. There was also some
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: speculation of of who could have caused it. And so
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: now the police are saying that it was Jacques Radcliffe.
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: But a lot of people online, they're not buying this
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: as the full story because they're questioning whether this one
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: man who looks older was able to do such a thing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: Because I don't know if you guys remember when we
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: spoke about it, we said that she was so high up,
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: they had to have a fire truck ladder bring her down.
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: And so they're questioning, you know, How one person was
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: able to do that. Now, the police chief just said
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: in that soundbite, though, that they are looking for other suspects.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: There will be more arrests coming forth. So we'll just
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: follow this to see what what will continue to happen.
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: But they have not explained how they believe her body
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: was placed in that tree. And so a lot of
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: people online are speculating, you know, he couldn't have done
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: that alone.
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: Scary. We will continue to follow that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: And now to a new twist in the Lindsay Clancy
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: case and the growing backlash over the lone holdout juror
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: and how he is being treated. So remember the jury
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: was 11 to 1. 11 jurors were prepared to find
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: Clancy not criminally responsible for killing her three children. One
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: juror disagreed, forcing a mistrial. But now we're learning something
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: that we didn't know about that holdout juror, that he
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: was a black man in his 30s, the only black
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: juror on the panel. Now, that came out during an
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: interview with CBS this morning. And Gayle King, she was
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: the one who actually broke this news.
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: Let's listen to the reaction that she had.
• 36:27
  Speaker 15: One person of color was a person of color, a
• 36:29
  Speaker 15: woman or a man?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: A man. A man.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Is a holdout juror a person of color?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: A black man?
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:37
  Speaker 13: A black man is a holdout juror?
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I have to sit with that for.
• 36:42
  Speaker 13: Just a second.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Lord knows I love me some Gayle King, but I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: just need her to explain that reaction. I don't understand
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: why she reacted like that. What did him being a
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: black man and holding out have to do with anything?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked that it wasn't more jurors who didn't feel
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like how he felt.
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, when you look at the look at the
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: makeup of the jury, I think her first question was
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: what the jury makeup look like. And to find out
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: that he was there was only one person of color
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: and it was a black man who was the holdout.
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: I think she was kind of just sitting in that
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: for a second.
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: But I think the bigger story this morning is NBC
• 37:17
  Speaker 10: in Boston.
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: They started digging.
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: Into the jurors personal life, reporting his past domestic violence allegations,
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: bringing order an eviction case that he had.
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: The station, they did not release his name. We still
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: don't know his name. His name is not public.
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: But critics are pointing out that jurors are supposed to
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: have a privacy and a protection when they serve.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: So them digging into his personal life and all that
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: being investigated, they're wondering whether the 11 other jurors would
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: be facing this kind of scrutiny if it was the
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: other way. So now that we find out that he's
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: a black man, are we doing a little bit extra
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: digging because he was the lone holdout who didn't go
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: the other way, which the 11 other jurors went?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And he can't sue because they didn't put his name
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: out there, right? A lot of conversation about that. They
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: didn't put his identity out there, so he can't sue.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: They didn't put his identity out there, but they put
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: all his business out there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: I mean, from arrest warrants to interviewing family members, everything.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: Oh, interviewing family members. Then, yeah, then they clearly know
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: who he is then, which is sad.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they know who he is.
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: They just haven't said the name out loud.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: They vilifying him more than they vilifying Lindsey Clancy. That's right.
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: That is.
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: exactly what they're saying um all right y'all well it
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: looks like that is the end of front page news
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: we are running out of time but injured know your
• 38:34
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• 38:38
  Speaker 10: the people.com well.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: We got the law firm battles going down versus top
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: dog law that's right okay who will come out the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: victor we will see thank you but listen I want
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to keep this conversation going. That's why we have Dr.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Jessica Clemons coming in.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Dr.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist, and this is what
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: she does. The conversation is about postpartum psychosis and your
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: mental health surrounding pregnancy. she is the person to talk
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to so we're going to keep this conversation going when
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: she comes back great conversation we'll do when we come
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: back so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: morning everybody it's dj envy just hilarious charlamagne the guy
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: we are the breakfast club laura rose is here as
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: well we got a special guest in.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: The building yes indeed she's back ladies and gentlemen dr
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: jess welcome.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Back feels good to be here very important to say
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: dr jessica clemons is a board certified psychiatrist okay all
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: right graduated cornell university medical college completed your residency training
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: at nyu yes at nyu okay very important to say
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that why Just want people to know that she really
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: got her certification. That's just been up here before. I know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: but you know. Okay. Reiterate to the people.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Well, how are you feeling? She's a real doctor.
• 39:53
  Speaker 15: I'm feeling great. I'm glad you did that for me
• 39:56
  Speaker 15: because I was going to try to find a way
• 39:57
  Speaker 15: to bring that in.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Do y'all have to do that now? On platform?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I really.
• 40:03
  Speaker 15: Before the controversy online, when people were talking about whether,
• 40:07
  Speaker 15: you know, someone is a doctor or not.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 15: I wouldn't think it's a thing, but now I do
• 40:13
  Speaker 15: think it's important. People really need to know that the
• 40:15
  Speaker 15: information they're getting from so-called doctors, you know, it's trusted.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It's vetted.
• 40:20
  Speaker 15: So yeah, I feel like it's something that we do
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: have to say.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 40:24
  Speaker 15: And the last thing is medical doctors. It's, it's easy
• 40:27
  Speaker 15: to look up whether or not we're truly who we
• 40:29
  Speaker 15: say we are. All you have to do is just
• 40:31
  Speaker 15: take her name. and the state we're licensed, and you
• 40:33
  Speaker 15: can see if the license is active or not. It
• 40:37
  Speaker 15: doesn't take much to show your degrees and things like that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 15: They're always on the wall behind me.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad you're here because you're also a reproductive psychiatrist.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So you treat women with postpartum, and we've been having
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of conversations about postpartum, especially because of the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy situation. And I think it's very important because
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: we spend nine months talking about women being pregnant, but
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: never talk about what happens to the mother psychologically after pregnancy.
• 41:01
  Speaker 15: Absolutely. Yeah, this is a newer area in psychiatry. Mass
• 41:07
  Speaker 15: General is really leading in a lot of the research. Yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 15: we don't talk about the hormonal effects, whether it's pregnancy,
• 41:15
  Speaker 15: delivery or even before. Like I take care of a
• 41:17
  Speaker 15: lot of women who talk about, wow, every couple of
• 41:20
  Speaker 15: weeks out of the month before my period starts, I'm
• 41:22
  Speaker 15: just anxious or depressed. But we talk about that and
• 41:26
  Speaker 15: we talk about treatment options that might include therapy or
• 41:29
  Speaker 15: lifestyle modification. but also medication. But when I'm thinking about
• 41:34
  Speaker 15: like postpartum, especially to your point with the case that
• 41:37
  Speaker 15: we've all kind of watched, I kept a little distance
• 41:40
  Speaker 15: from some of the details there. But yeah, we're talking
• 41:43
  Speaker 15: people are coming in depressed. It affects their ability to
• 41:47
  Speaker 15: bond with the baby, which then also has effects on
• 41:49
  Speaker 15: the infant child, right? If they're not properly bonding with
• 41:52
  Speaker 15: their parent, the mother, that has some downstream effects. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 15: there could absolutely be a role for medication for some women.
• 42:00
  Speaker 15: It also could be a role for more support, making
• 42:04
  Speaker 15: sure that you have someone there to cover the night shift.
• 42:08
  Speaker 15: I know personally, that was just one of the hardest
• 42:10
  Speaker 15: times after having a baby to be up all night
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: and just thinking about what that does to mood and irritability.
• 42:15
  Speaker 15: So it's an area of medicine that's starting to really
• 42:20
  Speaker 15: take the front center now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: Well, let me just break down the Lindsay Clancy case
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: for somebody that doesn't know. She's a 36-year-old former labor
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: and delivery nurse. She strangled her three children ages five,
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: three and eight months before attempting suicide by jumping out
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: of a second story window. She was not prosecuted on
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: September 24th, 2026. It was a mistrial. The judge declared
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: a mistrial after seven days of deliberation. And this has
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: been a big conversation of postpartum and all that. I
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: wanted to ask when I seen your name on the
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: sheet early this week, well, last night.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I called Charlamagne. I'm like, is that Dr.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Jess?
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Jess?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Because usually we don't see Dr. Jessica Clemens, right? We
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: just see Dr. Jess is coming. And he was like, yeah.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, where has she been?
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: We haven't seen her in a long time. And she
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: was like, well, she dealt with postpartum. And I was like, wow.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: I was like, well, break down what it is.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I've had six kids. You know, I have six kids.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And thank God my wife didn't deal with it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 11: So.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: What makes somebody deal with having a child, like Charlamagne said,
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: so excited, nine months, you're excited to have this baby,
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: a baby that you created and you build a nursery
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: and you build a crib and the family's giving you
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: gifts and you can't wait and you're picking outfits that
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: look like your outfits and you get so excited. And
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: then you hear a lot of women say when the
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: baby came. They didn't like the baby.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: They didn't want him. They didn't want the child next
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to them. Some women would say hate the baby. How
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: do you get to that? That's what Mimi said this morning.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Our front page news person said she hated her son
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: at first. Oh, wow.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So how do you get there?
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 15: So for me, just to make sure people are okay
• 43:53
  Speaker 15: with part of what I've been focusing on, I mean,
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: answer the question, is really building my private practice and
• 43:59
  Speaker 15: trying to shift away from social media as a primary focus. public,
• 44:03
  Speaker 15: you know, space that I engage in, but how we
• 44:06
  Speaker 15: get there. So during pregnancy, there's like big shifts in hormones,
• 44:10
  Speaker 15: you know, estrogen is high and that's why the hair
• 44:13
  Speaker 15: is like herring and the skin is all full. Um,
• 44:16
  Speaker 15: and just, you know, just really people just look great
• 44:19
  Speaker 15: when estrogen levels are high, but after delivery that starts
• 44:23
  Speaker 15: to tail off pretty rapidly. And so for some people
• 44:27
  Speaker 15: who are more sensitive, that's the language we kind of
• 44:29
  Speaker 15: use in medicine, meaning One woman may tolerate that estrogen
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: drop off and another woman may not. The one who's
• 44:36
  Speaker 15: more sensitive, the one who doesn't, may begin to have
• 44:39
  Speaker 15: signs of like postpartum blues. In fact, 50 to 85%
• 44:43
  Speaker 15: of women will experience that. That's not like depression where
• 44:47
  Speaker 15: you're down, you really don't want to get out of bed,
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: you're feeling hopeless, maybe even suicidal. It's more of like irritability.
• 44:54
  Speaker 15: There might be some anxiety. You might be just a
• 44:57
  Speaker 15: little like frustrated, unable to connect. maybe some feelings towards
• 45:01
  Speaker 15: the baby, not at all like postpartum psychosis, which I'll
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: go into, but that usually gets better once mom is,
• 45:07
  Speaker 15: you know, properly, she's got the nutrition back, she feels supported,
• 45:12
  Speaker 15: she's focusing on rest. A lot of what I advise
• 45:14
  Speaker 15: women who come in after delivering is like, you got
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: to sleep.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Even if you have to.
• 45:18
  Speaker 15: Stop pumping or prioritizing trying to breastfeed, like let's move
• 45:22
  Speaker 15: on if it's not working for you. But again, part
• 45:24
  Speaker 15: of what happens is the change in estrogen levels affects
• 45:27
  Speaker 15: some women significantly. And then the work. I mean, it's
• 45:29
  Speaker 15: hard taking care of a newborn, especially when it's the first.
• 45:32
  Speaker 15: You have no idea. You're like, to your point, you're
• 45:34
  Speaker 15: getting ready. You're creating the moment. You're getting the room ready.
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: Then the baby arrives, and now this baby has to
• 45:40
  Speaker 15: be fed 24-7. The only communication is through tears. I mean,
• 45:45
  Speaker 15: it's stressful. And then if a lot of women do
• 45:48
  Speaker 15: feel pressure to breastfeed, to pump, that is around the clock, too.
• 45:53
  Speaker 15: You can't just stop because you need to sleep. If
• 45:55
  Speaker 15: you don't, you'll stop producing milk. So I think for
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: some women, if they end up not being properly supported,
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: that first couple of days when postpartum blues can show up,
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: that can sort of start to set the stage for
• 46:08
  Speaker 15: postpartum depression, anxiety. I support a lot of women who
• 46:13
  Speaker 15: talk about how overwhelmed they feel. You know, they're worrying
• 46:16
  Speaker 15: about this. Do I have enough for that? So it
• 46:19
  Speaker 15: starts to play into how they feel about themselves and
• 46:22
  Speaker 15: how they feel about their performance. And then even the children,
• 46:24
  Speaker 15: there can be resentment that builds.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Like what separates like the normal baby blues from the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: postpartum depression and the psychosis and the OCD? Like, like,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: like help us understand the spectrum.
• 46:36
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 46:36
  Speaker 15: Great question. So we, we look at this as like
• 46:38
  Speaker 15: a continuum.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:39
  Speaker 15: Some women, um, before they became pregnant, uh, may have
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: had a history of depression and anxiety already, but postpartum, uh,
• 46:47
  Speaker 15: this continuum of blues, depression, and psychosis can happen in any,
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: any woman, um, Again, part of it is this like
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to. But
• 46:58
  Speaker 15: blue shows up about two to four days into post
• 47:02
  Speaker 15: delivery and it levels off and you're not depressed to
• 47:05
  Speaker 15: the point where your mood is consistently down. You're sad. Literally,
• 47:11
  Speaker 15: you can say, I feel depressed. You're not dealing with
• 47:13
  Speaker 15: a lot of sleep issues. You're not sleeping great. You're
• 47:15
  Speaker 15: caring for a baby. You can fall asleep. If somebody
• 47:18
  Speaker 15: takes that baby, you're out.
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 47:19
  Speaker 15: You can fall asleep. Postpartum depression would have the opposite.
• 47:22
  Speaker 15: You're having trouble falling asleep. Your appetite's low, stuck to
• 47:26
  Speaker 15: your mattress. You're having a lot of thoughts of guilt.
• 47:28
  Speaker 15: You're not enjoying things. You're hopeless. And some women will
• 47:31
  Speaker 15: develop suicidal thoughts. That occurs maybe in the first couple
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: of weeks. Two to four weeks is when we look
• 47:36
  Speaker 15: for that. But this isn't the one that we're worried
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: about the safety of the baby. Postpartum psychosis is rare.
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: It happens in about one to two deliveries out of
• 47:44
  Speaker 15: a thousand births.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: So it's rare.
• 47:47
  Speaker 15: Most women are not going to experience postpartum psychosis. But
• 47:50
  Speaker 15: this is the one that was, I guess, kind of
• 47:52
  Speaker 15: at the forefront of this case, which, you know, I
• 47:55
  Speaker 15: don't really know if that's what it was. Eight months
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: is not really the window. Postpartum psychosis we're seeing in
• 48:00
  Speaker 15: the first couple of weeks, but really at four weeks,
• 48:03
  Speaker 15: we're not really expecting that to be there if it occurred.
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: And it is a emergency, right? So the person will
• 48:11
  Speaker 15: look disorganized. They might have mood fluctuations. So they're really elevated.
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: They might be up all night, you know, talking and very,
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: just have all this energy, or they might look depressed.
• 48:23
  Speaker 15: They might be disorganized and like, what are you doing?
• 48:25
  Speaker 15: You're putting the remote in the, you know, fridge. It just,
• 48:27
  Speaker 15: something seems odd. But what, one of the hallmarks that's
• 48:30
  Speaker 15: scary is if they start to communicate that they're hearing
• 48:32
  Speaker 15: things or they start to believe that something's going on
• 48:36
  Speaker 15: with you, with the baby, they don't really want anyone
• 48:39
  Speaker 15: with them. This can, can put the infant and family
• 48:42
  Speaker 15: at risk of infant side or, you know, So it's
• 48:46
  Speaker 15: an emergency in New York. There are so many resources.
• 48:49
  Speaker 15: There's a mother and baby unit, I think, at Mount Sinai.
• 48:52
  Speaker 15: So it's not unusual if someone does present with this
• 48:55
  Speaker 15: for them to get admitted. You'd have to be admitted,
• 48:57
  Speaker 15: treated with the antipsychotics, but they'll keep the baby in
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: the hospital with you. But you're not the primary when
• 49:03
  Speaker 15: caretaking because the risk is that if they're alone, maybe
• 49:06
  Speaker 15: these command auditory hallucinations might, you know, tip them into
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: acting on it. But again, very rare. It's an emergency.
• 49:14
  Speaker 15: Depression is probably a bit more common. Blues is incredibly common,
• 49:18
  Speaker 15: but that resolves.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: With what are your thoughts on paternity leave, right? Because
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: when I first heard about paternity leave, I laughed so loud.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: I was like, what the hell does a man need
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: to take off, right? But now hearing what you're saying,
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: I guess it would be needed. For support.
• 49:34
  Speaker 15: Absolutely. I don't want to leave the men out.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't take paternity leave.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: No.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: But I think things have developed since y'all have had
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: your children. But like when you said you don't want
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: to leave the men out, you mean that in their
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: mental space as well? Or just the fact that... So
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: talk a bit about that because I don't ever hear
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: people talk about the men, like their side of it
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: as well too.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So.
• 49:57
  Speaker 15: The first point, yes, support is really why I think
• 49:59
  Speaker 15: men should absolutely advocate for it. You don't want your partner,
• 50:03
  Speaker 15: your spouse, whatever the situation is, at home alone with
• 50:07
  Speaker 15: all of the burden of care. But I think we
• 50:10
  Speaker 15: also don't really talk about the changes that happen to men.
• 50:13
  Speaker 15: This isn't like a hormonal conversation, but more or less
• 50:16
  Speaker 15: just the big role that people are stepping into, right?
• 50:19
  Speaker 15: So if it was just the two of you, that's
• 50:21
  Speaker 15: a very different lifestyle, very different dynamic situation. Now you
• 50:24
  Speaker 15: might have someone who's like, actually, I really do need
• 50:26
  Speaker 15: you to take the baby when you come home. I
• 50:28
  Speaker 15: don't need you to do your process to decompress. So
• 50:32
  Speaker 15: that can also take a toll on people. Stress is
• 50:35
  Speaker 15: one of the most notorious experience that people don't recognize,
• 50:40
  Speaker 15: but contributes to things like anxiety. which also can have
• 50:43
  Speaker 15: irritability in there. You know, anxiety isn't just this like cute, oh,
• 50:46
  Speaker 15: I'm so worried, but people can be really edgy, snappy, right?
• 50:50
  Speaker 15: It also can bring up feelings of depression, whether it's
• 50:53
  Speaker 15: like depressive episode or just the low mood that comes with,
• 50:57
  Speaker 15: maybe you're not connecting with your, you know, your partner anymore.
• 51:00
  Speaker 15: Maybe it's demanding on you too. You worked all day,
• 51:02
  Speaker 15: you want to come home and decompress, but now you
• 51:05
  Speaker 15: have this baby that you have to take care of.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Come to the door, your wife's like this, but you understand.
• 51:10
  Speaker 15: But it still affects you, right? So, Paternity leave is important.
• 51:15
  Speaker 15: I wish in the U.S. it was longer. I think, what,
• 51:17
  Speaker 15: it's like six weeks maybe. Not long enough. That's still
• 51:22
  Speaker 15: like a newborn. That baby is so tiny and developing.
• 51:25
  Speaker 15: So I think if a man is on the fence
• 51:27
  Speaker 15: about it, you just need to take it. Take the time.
• 51:30
  Speaker 15: Bond with the family. Be supportive. Figure out the new role, right,
• 51:34
  Speaker 15: so that it's not really just one person taking the
• 51:37
  Speaker 15: lead on all the caretaking. Because that does affect the relationship.
• 51:41
  Speaker 15: And not pressuring also for sex. That's just something I
• 51:44
  Speaker 15: want to throw in there.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I'll just say that again. Expound on that.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: That seems like that's been a... Since you said it
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: like that, it seems like that's been a problem and
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: an issue with a lot of couples.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Because you're supposed to do six weeks after, right?
• 51:53
  Speaker 15: People need a weight, right? Yeah, so the body can heal.
• 51:56
  Speaker 15: But also just realizing that this woman, her body doesn't
• 52:00
  Speaker 15: really even belong to her anymore.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. Right?
• 52:02
  Speaker 15: You've heard about being touched out when moms are talking
• 52:05
  Speaker 15: about like, okay, the kids are all on me. I
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: don't want anybody else to touch me.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, like when mom needs to take like an hour,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: maybe an hour in the car before she walking out
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the driveway or she hiding in the closet because she
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: just needs, she tired.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Don't touch me.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I know of that, but I didn't know it was
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: called touched out.
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: Touched out.
• 52:19
  Speaker 15: Like, you know, if you're nursing and you got a
• 52:22
  Speaker 15: toddler with you and everybody's just grabbing for mom.
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:25
  Speaker 15: At some point it's just like, get off me.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:29
  Speaker 15: So I was kind of being a little tongue-in-cheek here
• 52:31
  Speaker 15: where I was saying men also need to give their
• 52:33
  Speaker 15: women time to not make sex something that you start
• 52:36
  Speaker 15: to also put the pressure on because she's adjusting to
• 52:38
  Speaker 15: her body and the hormones. And if she's lactating, you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 15: let her get her time to heal, but also for
• 52:44
  Speaker 15: you two to figure out the dynamic now that kids
• 52:46
  Speaker 15: are involved.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: We're talking about things a lot more now. You can
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: plan the nurses, the nannies, the sleep, all that, but
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: then you still get to some of the postpartum things.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Is that something that like, can be passed down like
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: your mom deals with this so then you dealt with
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: it so you've done everything to try to fight it
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: but like it still happens anyway is that a thing
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 53:05
  Speaker 15: It can be yeah the unfortunate part is we don't
• 53:08
  Speaker 15: know what causes this experience in women it could be
• 53:13
  Speaker 15: genetic it definitely we feel pretty confident that it's the
• 53:17
  Speaker 15: hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to but
• 53:20
  Speaker 15: i also think a lot about what what's modeled right
• 53:23
  Speaker 15: so what am i saying here um If you saw
• 53:28
  Speaker 15: generation after generation, women take on more than their share
• 53:33
  Speaker 15: and now they're irritable after birth and more tearful. Is
• 53:37
  Speaker 15: this something that's really postpartum blues? Yes, we would diagnose
• 53:40
  Speaker 15: it as such. But is it that you saw women?
• 53:44
  Speaker 15: Overdo it, not accept support, not expect the men in
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: their lives to step in and take care of the
• 53:52
  Speaker 15: things that they just are doing.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: OK.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: So I often think like when we're talking genetics, how
• 53:59
  Speaker 15: much of it is really the family system like passing
• 54:02
  Speaker 15: on certain behaviors? But for now, we don't know. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 15: want people to know what to look out for.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Can somebody experience postpartum psychosis and still have moments where
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: they look completely rational? Like they could be cooking dinner,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: they're answering texts, taking care of the baby. That's what
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: they were saying in the Clancy case. They said that
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: she was functioning.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: That's how the movies make it seem like that too.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: When they have these characters that have like kind of
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: like the Lindsay Clancy case.
• 54:29
  Speaker 15: This is complicated. I'm privileged that I got to actually
• 54:34
  Speaker 15: see people who are ill. A lot of mental health
• 54:37
  Speaker 15: providers or psychiatric nurse practitioners, for example. There were people
• 54:42
  Speaker 15: who trained in psychiatry outside of great institutions like NYU. NYU,
• 54:47
  Speaker 15: by the way, is the VA hospital on First Avenue.
• 54:50
  Speaker 15: Bellevue Hospital.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 54:52
  Speaker 15: Okay, so we're seeing everything.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 54:56
  Speaker 15: Okay, and that's where I got to see some of this.
• 54:58
  Speaker 15: And then the hospital next.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Door, Tish. Yeah.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: They'll use the psychiatric hospital. Yes. Yes.
• 55:03
  Speaker 15: Notorious, right? If you don't really witness people who are
• 55:07
  Speaker 15: truly in that state, what we would call like psychosis,
• 55:11
  Speaker 15: you can pick up on things because you're making the
• 55:13
  Speaker 15: diagnosis based on what's the DSM, which is like our
• 55:17
  Speaker 15: psychiatric handbook, which is a collection of symptoms that if
• 55:21
  Speaker 15: they meet these, this collection or meet criteria, then we
• 55:25
  Speaker 15: call it that. So I've even found when I'm you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 15: working with someone who might be a therapist or a
• 55:31
  Speaker 15: nurse practitioner, that we don't see the symptoms the same way.
• 55:35
  Speaker 15: I don't like to, you know, fluff myself here, but
• 55:37
  Speaker 15: I'm also like, I really got to see it. Like
• 55:40
  Speaker 15: Bellevue has Rikers, like Island, there's a unit in that hospital.
• 55:44
  Speaker 15: So we're seeing people who are truly, truly ill.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: So no.
• 55:47
  Speaker 15: Like people who have postpartum psychosis, from what I've witnessed,
• 55:51
  Speaker 15: they're bizarre. They are muttering to themselves. Part of when
• 55:57
  Speaker 15: someone is psychotic, if they have that experience, they're not
• 56:00
  Speaker 15: really taking good care of themselves. That's a disorganization. So
• 56:03
  Speaker 15: hygiene might be down. They may be even like styling
• 56:06
  Speaker 15: themselves kind of oddly.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Why don't they take the baby away during those times?
• 56:10
  Speaker 15: You do.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: You should.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Not family members. I'm talking about.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Doctors. Like, the baby needs to go until.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: She's... Well, the doctor has to know what's happening, too, though.
• 56:20
  Speaker 15: Doctor has to know it. Also, the states. You know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 15: the state that you are in, their mental health hygiene
• 56:26
  Speaker 15: laws really set the stage for whether or not they
• 56:29
  Speaker 15: can involuntarily admit you. Like I said, New York is
• 56:32
  Speaker 15: is pretty strong on. I mean, we were admitting people
• 56:36
  Speaker 15: coming in with schizophrenia because they weren't taking care of themselves.
• 56:39
  Speaker 15: And that helps the community. But also we get them
• 56:41
  Speaker 15: treated and then we move them down and sort of
• 56:43
  Speaker 15: the level of care to ideally not continue to live
• 56:46
  Speaker 15: on the streets with like severe mental illness. But if
• 56:48
  Speaker 15: you're in like Texas, you know, I don't know their laws.
• 56:51
  Speaker 15: It might be a little bit harder for the psychiatrist
• 56:54
  Speaker 15: to actually have the authority to involuntarily admit you. They
• 56:57
  Speaker 15: may not have enough units. So this is also a
• 56:59
  Speaker 15: bit of like an advocacy issue, too.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 57:02
  Speaker 15: In New York, I mean, you're getting admitted without a doubt.
• 57:07
  Speaker 15: You're getting admitted. That baby is going to have to
• 57:09
  Speaker 15: be with family until we treat you because it's a risk.
• 57:13
  Speaker 15: You could you could kill that. You could kill your
• 57:15
  Speaker 15: baby in other states again. I don't know what they
• 57:18
  Speaker 15: have going on, but you'll find that it's state dependent.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, right? Because even with that case and
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: everything you're saying, like they said she did ask for help.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Like they said she asked for help. She had a
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: lot of contact with mental health providers before, you know,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: she did what she did to her kids. Did she
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: do it? Yeah, she did it, right? Yes, she did.
• 57:40
  Speaker 15: I think she did it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: What does that case teach us about the difference between
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: having access to care and actually receiving the right care?
• 57:47
  Speaker 15: Great question. So this goes to quality, right? The quality
• 57:50
  Speaker 15: of care. So even when I'm like running my private practice,
• 57:54
  Speaker 15: that's a part of the language I communicate is that
• 57:56
  Speaker 15: I'm not just your doctor treating you. You're getting quality care,
• 58:00
  Speaker 15: which goes back to the training. Like, again, I picked
• 58:04
  Speaker 15: NYU because I knew I would see everything and that
• 58:07
  Speaker 15: would make me more confident in my diagnostic skills and
• 58:10
  Speaker 15: then knowing how to treat. So this is also the
• 58:13
  Speaker 15: sort of unfortunate, ugly side of mental health treatment in
• 58:18
  Speaker 15: this country, which I think is evolving. I'm glad we're
• 58:20
  Speaker 15: talking about it. I'm glad you've been spearheading, making this
• 58:23
  Speaker 15: something that our community really focuses on. But it's just
• 58:26
  Speaker 15: going to depend on what you get, right? You might
• 58:28
  Speaker 15: sit across from someone who, where they train, they never
• 58:30
  Speaker 15: saw someone come in with schizophrenia. So they're really relying
• 58:33
  Speaker 15: on the handbook, right? They may have never seen a
• 58:35
  Speaker 15: woman come in with postpartum psychosis. When you see it,
• 58:39
  Speaker 15: you know it. They may have never seen someone come
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: in with bipolar disorder. So it's harder to call it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 15: They also might not feel comfortable to take away your
• 58:46
  Speaker 15: rights or to say, like, we're going to hospitalize you.
• 58:50
  Speaker 15: So the difference, unfortunately, is where people train, their comfort
• 58:54
  Speaker 15: level in the medication. You know, if you've got a
• 58:58
  Speaker 15: lot of medication going on, that's usually not ideal. From
• 59:01
  Speaker 15: my perspective, that's kind of a red flag. Like, what
• 59:04
  Speaker 15: are we targeting?
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 59:05
  Speaker 15: Patients shouldn't be on multiple medications. They should have closer
• 59:09
  Speaker 15: follow up. So there's not really a standardized way of
• 59:12
  Speaker 15: treatment because also in the U.S. I don't want to
• 59:17
  Speaker 15: sound like I'm bashing nurse practitioners. I know they're going
• 59:19
  Speaker 15: to be my comments later, but the training is just
• 59:22
  Speaker 15: so limited.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 59:24
  Speaker 15: And I've worked with people. I'm like, why would you
• 59:26
  Speaker 15: prescribe that for this? And it just it just tells
• 59:29
  Speaker 15: me that they don't have enough experience and you get
• 59:33
  Speaker 15: to you get to kind of do your thing.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: My last question, what do you wish the Lindsay Clancy
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: story had taught America before it became this courtroom story?
• 59:43
  Speaker 15: Well, again, I think keeping it really simple, I would
• 59:47
  Speaker 15: have hoped that it would have started more conversations around
• 59:51
  Speaker 15: properly supporting families. mothers, fathers, thinking about the role for community.
• 59:58
  Speaker 15: I think, again, it just should be more of the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 15: discussion nationally about how we're going to properly make sure
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 15: people have what they need. Doctors, I do need you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 15: to make sure people are on the right medication and
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 15: push for them to get admitted. I push mine. Like, okay,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 15: if you aren't getting better, let me tell you the hospital.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 15: I'm going to send you to.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Dr.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Jess.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Jessica Clemens, man. I would tell him to follow you,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: but you know.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: You can.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 15: I'm there.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I want to get back in it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Is it still Ask Dr.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Jess?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 15: It's still Ask Dr.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: Jess.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 15: Thank you so much.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: And hopefully you'll join us more. You vanished for our life. Like,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: you jumped in. Did you vanish?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: You intentionally took the time away.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 15: No, she vanished.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: But you said from us, like, it was just breakfast club.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to get her at the Mental Wealth
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Expo for years. I'm like, yo, now I'm thinking, like,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: this would be a great year for her just to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: do the whole panel by herself.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: I'm down.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Word?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 10: I'm down.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 15: I'm back out here. She said, I'm back out here.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 15: My children are a bit older. They can tolerate being
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 15: away from mom.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 15: I got to shout them out. I know y'all are watching.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 15: Y'all better be on your best behavior. But I want
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 15: to because I see this is needed.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 15: And I have a lot of fun. You guys have
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 15: just been really good to me. I appreciate being here.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Well, Dr. Jess, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Laura. Talk
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: All right, so we've been talking about legends this morning.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: And speaking of legends, it is being reported or it
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: was announced that Judge Judy, a legend in her own right.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Speaking of things, them pictures be real? No. I ain't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: never seen it in person.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: AI is really the trip.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: That's before you. I seen it way before you.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Because I'm like, her right now, when you see her.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: No, she's not thick.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: She's like.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: They had Judge Judy with a BBL online. Like, Judge
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Judy had like.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Nah, that wasn't no BBL. That's all natural right there. No,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I think it was fake. Let me look. Let me
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: look again. She what, like 75 or something like that?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Nothing. I'm just saying.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she's retiring after 30 years. She's passing the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: gavel on down to her son. And yeah, she's going
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: to be, she says that she, you know, she still
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: wants her energy to be put out there, but she
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: wants to do other things.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want to do that if I was
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: her son. Because Judge Judy, I mean, I don't know
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: his personality. Has he been doing anything? Has he been
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: on these judge shows?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: There's nothing like Judge Judy. I remember Judge Judy used
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: to have Gia's mom or mother-in-law in a choco.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Like, that was her show.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: They all do.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Like, her show.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: Like, she would sit there for hours and we would
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: watch Judge Judy.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Like, he has his choco.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: So he has his own show. It's called Adam's Law.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: He's been an attorney for more than 25 years. So
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: he's also been on he's been on a few shows.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he has a new series, Adam's Law. It
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: premieres on it premieres today.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Yep, it's coming out through CBS.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: I would figure out how I could use that name,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: like Judge Judy's son or something like that, because I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: don't know.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Son of Judy?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Son of Judy sounds like a soap opera.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never heard of Adams, though.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Well, anyway, but yeah, she's taking a step back. I mean,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: we've been watching her forever, so, you know.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: God bless her. She deserves it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Now, speaking of legends, I want to go back. I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: know we were talking about Jay-Z this morning, and I am...
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: really still excited about last night but um because you
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: met jay-z and beyonce you're never gonna fail not only
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: did i meet them at the after party y'all you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: know i love to do electric slide yeah yeah as
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: soon as i heard the song i got up and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: ran up and i didn't expect jay-z and beyonce homecoming
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: homecoming beyonce jay-z and beyonce was doing electric slide they
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: danced all night long and i mean like had a
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: good time that's what couples in love do no but
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: like big celebrities be in there and be like cute
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: for the party they like had a good time.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: You realize they're humans Yes, but y'all know what I'm
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: talking about. Two black-ass humans.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Y'all know what I'm talking about. You hang out with
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: some people or be around them, even if at a distance,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: and they there, but they ain't really having a good time.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: They were having a good time.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Couples in love are going to dance. They're going to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: enjoy themselves. Oh, they were.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, all of that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: All of that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to play this audio that we have
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: exclusively from Bronco Grinding from last night. Jay-Z opened up
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: the premiere when we were at the Opera House.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I thought you was in there working. I thought you
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: was in there taking it. I was about to fight you.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: I thought I was.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: About to fight you.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I took my phone out one second to not to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: record just to check what was happening in the world
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: and Charlamagne was like get off your phone be in
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: the moment I put it away that's right yeah let's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: take a listen to Jay Z as he opened up
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: his premiere last.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Night about this piece that Rick and I created it's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: been an extraordinary year it's Jay Z 30 I want
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: to thank all you guys to come to the concert
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: and travel all around the world we didn't create this
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: piece to come out at this time we were just
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: curious to have this conversation around music and Writing. We
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: didn't know what we would do with it. It was
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: just an idea that we discussed, Rick and I. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: think what makes it really special is that, you know,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: the love that we have of music. Rick was super
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: curious about the world that a lot of us come from.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: So I took it in places that I don't think
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: it normally would have went. It's super fascinating.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Do say so myself.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: I hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you guys for
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: this beautiful 30-year journey.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: Looking forward to what's next.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: And to answer the question, we watched two episodes last night.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: We watched episode one and three. So again, on September 18th,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: two episodes will drop and then they'll drop on Fridays
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: after that. But also I want to shout out Angie
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Martinez too.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: When we first talked about this.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Documentary, we mentioned that it would be fire to see
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: her involved in some way. Last night, she was the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: voice of God in a theater, which was like fire
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: to hear in New York.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to Angie.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 8: It is the voice of God again.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Andrew Martinez.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Met Opera.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: It is our distinct honor to welcome to the stage
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: the incomparable Mr.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Sean J.Z. Carter.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was seated like right behind us and then
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: right behind her were J.Z.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Beyonce.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: On the way in, I saw DJ Khaled. He is skinny.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Salute to Khaled. Khaled really has lost a lot of weight.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: He lost a lot of weight. I told him that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: last night. I said, man, I ain't going to front.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I thought this was just for the gram.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: If I was him, I wouldn't have spoke to you.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: You be so mean.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not mean, man. Jokes are not mean, okay? Just saying. Yes,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: they are. They are the way people receive them.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: When I saw Khaled, he was so nice.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: He was so nice to me. Khaled is always nice.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Khaled is always nice. Always positive. He's always been a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: nice guy.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: I felt so bad.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: I'm like, dang.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: But he really has lost a lot of weight. He has.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Fat Joe walked up to him.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: I was walking to the seat. Fat Joe walked up
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: and was like, what's up?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Skinny.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, they greet each other like that now
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: because we lost the weight.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: You look good.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Shout out to SZA too. Saw SZA in the after party.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Did y'all know that SZA went to Del State?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that I found that out last night
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: if I.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Had told y'all that here y'all would have told me
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I was lying but SZA was right there when I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: said it and she was able.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: To confirm it you know what I ain't gonna say
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: nothing Lauren's.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Crazy I didn't mean to but you do nothing shout
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: out to Gunna too I saw him last night as
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: well but good morning to SZA good morning Gunna.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: You especially say good morning to SZA say good morning
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: to SZA Good morning. Good morning, SZA. That's right. I'm
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: going to close bars for SZA.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I'll follow Hornet.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: All right. Hey, SZA.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, look.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I love you, SZA.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, you can't take me nowhere.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: But last night, I proved that you can. We had
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: a good time.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: But I will say this.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: I think it's very, very, very dope seeing Jay-Z and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: where he came from. Like, I started in the industry
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: and I got a chance to see Jay start and him,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: you know, struggling to get records played and people not believe.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: And then Seeing the world believe. And I used to,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: you know, sit up in Rockefeller Records and just pretty
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: much just wait for albums.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Sit in Lenny S.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: And G's office and see Hov and just see all
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: the work that he actually put in. And to see
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: it 30 years later and to see people still receiving
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: it and still loving it and still idolizing it.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: But he's such a humble. It's really, really dope. Like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: they are such nice, good people. And even them together.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: After all of that.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: Like, Hov and Beyonce would be outside. Like, you would
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: see them out in a club, and they were always
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: so humble. Even though they are multi-platinum artists and billionaires,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: they still speak.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: The biggest thing, last night, all I was thinking about
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: was how people say, your character will take you places
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: that sometimes even your talent is.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Your talent will take you where
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: your character can't sustain you. So when you meet individuals
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: like that, you see why they've been on top of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: their game for so long.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Literally. And why the blessings just flow. Like when I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: say just great, nice humans, like. And just having a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: really good time. Like, enjoying life.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: They'll say we're glazing, but it's the truth.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Celebrate excellence, man.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: He'll sit down and talk to you for, like, it's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: not like he's not going to say, okay, I got
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Like, he's going to one you. No. He'll have conversations
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: with you. He was dope.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: And it's crazy because you're like, bro, you got to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: do this for all these people, but he has no
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: problem doing it.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, Beyonce, they'll still follow me and be like,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: all right, enough's enough.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: No, but she, like when I was walking in, she
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: walks up to you.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: And she'll like, she makes you feel welcome.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Says her name like you don't know her name?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't even speak back.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: I just held my hand out.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Stop stuttering.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, I text the group chat instantly. Y'all, I just
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: met Beyonce.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: I miss everybody. Yes. If you can't celebrate other people's success,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: you'll never have any success of your own. And I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: will never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided me
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: throughout my life. Okay? All right? Never. And we should
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided the whole generation.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep telling y'all that over and over
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: and over again. And once again, you should hope... to
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: get to a point where you have something to celebrate
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: after 30 years. You should pray for that. You want
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: to get money for three years at 30. I just
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: need y'all to think this logically through. All of you
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: people out there be like, oh, see you old. You
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: would rather get money for three years or 30. Do
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: you want something to celebrate 30.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: Years from now? You think about it, right? To celebrate
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: five is amazing. To celebrate 10 is difficult. To celebrate
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: 15 is always impossible. We going on 16. That's almost impossible.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: How many, you know, not to glaze ourselves, but how
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: many radio shows have gone this long?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Glazing yourself is crazy. I don't even like that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Let me get to this.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: You need to be nice to people too, because I'd
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: be apprehensive when we run into them.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Let me do this.
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• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: first gift. Now, that was the latest with Lawrence Charlemagne,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: who we were giving that donkey to.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Man, for after the hour, salute to all my Nigerians
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: out there, okay? Let's talk stereotypes.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: And scamming.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 12: Oh, boy.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: But I got y'all this morning, Nigeria. Don't even worry
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: about it, okay? But there's six Nigerian men who need
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: to have a word with them. We'll get to it next.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for donkey
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: of the day. There's a bunch of donkeys out here.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Call donkey of the day. It really caught me off guard.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: We live a life where we bite our tongue based
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: off who we may offend. We never would say anything.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: You are a donkey. That is why Charlemagne is here.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Some donkey todays just saw themselves. On The Breakfast Club. Okay, Charlamagne,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: who you giving donkey of the day to today? Well,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: donkey of the day for Monday, September 14th goes to
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: six Nigerian men who were extradited from South Africa to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: the United States for allegedly being involved in a romance
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: scam that targeted more than 100 women and stole millions
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: of dollars. I'm not even going to sit here and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: act like I can pronounce these brothers' names, but let's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: go to SABC News for the report, please.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 12: The six Nigerian nationals who are suspects in a multi-million
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 12: rand online romance scam have arrived at the Cape Town
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 12: International Airport for their extradition. the United States. They are
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 12: allegedly linked to the Nigerian cyber crimes syndicate, the Black Hawks,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 12: and face charges of money laundering and wire fraud. The
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 12: Hawks say they initially arrested eight suspects in 2021, with
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 12: one being granted bail of R210, 000, while another was extradited
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 12: to the United States in 2024. This followed cooperation between
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 12: the Hawks, Interpol, the FBI, and the U.S.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 14: Secret Service. You must remember that the crime scene is online.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 14: So there had to be proper investigation and proper money
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: trail to be traced back to individual suspects so that
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 14: we are able to make a case that is tangible
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 14: to stand before court.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, she didn't say their names either. So now
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I got to attempt. I just say their first names. Perry, Franklin, Asarimeen.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Collins Busa, and Torres Asu. And last name Osajid. Osajid, Otaga,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and Otubu. Definitely not right, but go ahead. Anyway. They
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: are accused. They haven't been convicted. So we'll let the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: court handle that part. But I want to discuss this
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: morning stereotypes, okay? Because when I saw this story, my
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: first thought was, my Nigerian brothers, why are y'all reinforcing
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: this stereotype? You know the stereotype I'm talking about, okay?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: There are people on this planet who, when they heard
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: young Miami ass wear all the scamming ass N-words at,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: the first place they thought about is Nigeria! OK, I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: was born in 1978 and Nigerians have been fighting the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: scammer stereotype in America for as long as I can remember. OK,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: it started with those. Nigerian Prince emails. You know, remember
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: those you get? Hello, my dear. I have inherited $ 14
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: million and I need your assistance. Okay. That's what started
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of this. And I don't like it because
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I love Nigerians.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Nigeria has over 200 million people. Some of the smartest,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: most educated, most successful people I've ever met are from Nigeria.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Drop on the clues box in Nigeria. Damn it. You
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: got doctors, you got lawyers, you got engineers, you got
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: business owners. You can look at what Nigerian culture is
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: doing around the world right now. You know, the afro
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: beaches everywhere you got burn a boy we just was
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: playing tims okay nigeria has spent years showing the world
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: that there's so much more to that country than the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: stereotypes people have about it and then here come these
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: six individuals doing romance scams allegedly okay do you understand
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: how much that has to piss off other nigerians somewhere
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: this morning there is a nigerian man sending a completely
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: legitimate business email and somebody is looking at that email
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: rubbing their chin like hmm i don't know OK, some
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Nigerian brother is on a dating app right now trying
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: to genuinely meet somebody. And the woman is nervous waiting
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: to be asked for money. But that's how stereotypes work. OK,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: one person does something and somehow everybody who looks like
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: them comes from where they're from gets thrown into it.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Don't become somebody else's confirmation bias. OK, people already got
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: ignorant ideas about certain groups and they just waiting for
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: something to happen that makes them feel like they're right. OK,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: they don't care about the millions of Nigerians who wake
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: up every morning and go to work, raise their families
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: and don't scam nobody. They're going to see this story
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: and say, see, I told you all them scamming ass Negroes.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Carisha was talking about her from Nigeria. I told you. No. Okay,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: we're talking about six Nigerians, six individuals, okay? And guys,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: if you know people already have an unfair stereotype about
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: your community, why would you go out there and allegedly...
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: become the stereotype that's what i don't understand and i
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: know some people don't like that argument because they'll say
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: why should i have to represent my whole race why
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: should nigerians have to represent all nigerians you're right you
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: shouldn't that's an unfair burden okay white people don't have
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: to do that when bernie madoff stole billions of dollars
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: nobody said man we got to keep an eye on
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: all these white people in their ponzi schemes no we
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: said bernie madoff was a crook okay one man we
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: didn't make millions of people answer for him but black
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: people okay my brothers my sisters from all over the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: globe you know damn well that's not how it works
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: for us okay people shouldn't stereotype nigerians because of what
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: these six men allegedly did but people will and that's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: why if these allegations are true you know These brothers
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: got to suffer the consequences, okay? These brothers didn't just
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: hurt the women they allegedly scammed. They made life a
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: little more annoying for some innocent Nigerian somewhere who already
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: has to deal with this stereotype. And I have to say,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the actual scam itself is nasty too. Because romance scammers
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: aren't just stealing money. They're studying people's loneliness. That's what
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: makes this so foul. You're finding somebody who wants companionship
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and you're figuring out exactly what they need to hear.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Good morning, beautiful. Did you eat today? I have jollof.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Then three months later, baby, I'm having a little trouble
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: accessing my bank account. Sir, you don't need a girlfriend. Okay,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: you need a loan officer. And what really gets me
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: is the amount of work that allegedly goes into these scams.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: If you have enough discipline to talk to somebody every day,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: enough patience to gain their trust, enough people skills to
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: make them fall in love with you, enough business sense
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: to allegedly move millions of dollars around, then you clearly
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: have the skill and talent to do something legitimate. You
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: could have been putting all of that energy into actually
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: doing something legitimate, but no, you want a scam. But
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: back to the moral of the story. There's already an
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: ugly stereotype attached to Nigerians. And these six men allegedly
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: decided to become somebody's evidence for it. OK, you shouldn't
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: have to live your life trying to prove stereotypes wrong.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: But you're damn sure shouldn't be working overtime to prove
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: them right. Please give these six alleged romance scammers from
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Nigeria the biggest. I don't get it.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: How you say the names?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't do that to him. Don't do
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: that to him.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: His accent changed and everything.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I don't even know why because that wasn't even a
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Nigerian accent.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what your accent was.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that was either. I have no idea.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: come back, Kristen and Montel Jordan will be joining us.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: They have a new children's book, Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: Girl Above His Bed.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: Damn!
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: A book about overcoming fear with faith. All right. We're
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: going to talk to them next. Why did you do that?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: There was no reason to say damn. It's a children's book.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I just feel like saying damn all morning. This is
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: dopamine from last night. Damn. All right. My cowboys lost. Damn.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: That was a good one. You see what I'm saying?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: That was a good one. Now I feel like I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: need a damn this morning. I ain't here for Trav.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Y'all check on Trav. I know Trav went to the game.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: All right, it's Breakfast Club.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: Good morning.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: We are The Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: We got some special guests in the building. Yes, indeed.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: We have Montel and his wife, Christian Jordan.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Welcome.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: What's up? Christian Jordan. I'm sorry. Christian Jordan.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: Sorry.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Christian Jordan. She is a Christian.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 16: I am.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: How y'all feeling? We feel great.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Man, we are so good.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: New children's book, Shiloh and the Scary Girl Above His Bed.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: The not so scary girl above his bed. Talk to
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: us about this book.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 17: Yeah, this actually started with my son when he was
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 17: three years old. He was afraid of the monster that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 17: lived under his bed. And the crazy part, I was like, Lord,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 17: we got to fix this. Cause like he would show
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 17: up on my doorstep at my door every single night.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 17: I was like, okay, you got to sleep in your
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 17: own bed, bud. But he was so afraid of this monster.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 17: And I was like, okay. And so I, one night
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 17: when I was putting him to bed, I said, baby,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 17: what if the monster that's under the bed is more
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 17: afraid of you than you are of him? And what
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 17: if he wants to be your friend? And he was like, huh?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 17: I said, I assure you that he's way more afraid
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 17: of you than you are of him.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: He was like, Okay. And he decided he was sleeping
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: in his bed. And I was like, okay, this is good.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: We can do this. Where did that instinct come from?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Because I do that with bugs. Like when my little
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: girls are mad at ants, I'll be like, you're way
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: bigger than them ants. Them ants scare me. Right.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 17: Well, you know, the crazy thing is, I think one
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 17: of the things we do as parents that is, we
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 17: don't know what we're doing. But the concept of it is,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 17: is that we will say, oh, that's not scary. But
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 17: the truth is, when we were kids, we were afraid
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 17: of that too. But when we lean into it and say, hey,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 17: what if? And it's the wonder, right? And to ask
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 17: them the questions. And once they are able to think
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 17: about it and articulate how they feel, it's like, oh,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 17: wait a minute, you're right. I'm way bigger than that bug.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 17: I'm way bigger than whatever it is that I'm afraid of.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's flipping fear on its side because I think
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 16: we believe that unattended fear as a child can become trauma.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Anxiety.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Fear.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Worry. Oppression.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 16: Yeah, and even as marriage people that help couples in marriage,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 16: we found that A lot of their fears go all
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  Speaker 16: the way back to their childhood, to things about staying
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 16: or fighting or being afraid of this.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know, isolation, all those different things.
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  Speaker 17: It's so crazy because we literally sit across from couples
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  Speaker 17: all the time and we're like, so what is going on? Well,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 17: I'm afraid to stay. I'm afraid to go. I'm afraid
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 17: I picked the wrong one. It's like, good night. And
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 17: when we thought about that, we were like, where does
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 17: that come from? And it comes to when you have
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 17: childhood fears, us as parents saying, oh, you don't have
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 17: to be afraid of that. But the truth is, unattended
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 17: fear becomes anxiety, becomes oppression, becomes depression, becomes not knowing
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  Speaker 17: what to do next. And so we got to teach
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  Speaker 17: kids how to be brave.
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  Speaker 1: I love it because it's about perspective, right? Because it's like,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not about removing your child's fears, but
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: just teaching them another way to look at them. How
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  Speaker 1: do you know when you're not traumatizing your kid, right?
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to traumatize the kids so much where
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: they're super duper scared. But I don't want to coddle
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: them too much where everything falls back and I got
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: a nine-year-old sleeping in between mom and dad.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I know when it's
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: not going too far.
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  Speaker 17: Well, the truth of the matter is, is that we
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 17: need to lean in. It's asking more questions and listening.
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  Speaker 17: A lot of times we're so quick to tell them.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 17: what they're supposed to think or what they're supposed to feel.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 17: And the truth is, is when you ask them the questions,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 17: they'll tell you what they're really afraid of.
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  Speaker 1: Like for us, we have five kids, five grandkids. We
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: got a lot of experience.
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  Speaker 17: So, and the crazy part of that is, is that
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 17: when we lean in and ask, why are you afraid
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 17: to go? We have my youngest daughter right now went
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 17: to high school, like three days before school, she starts.
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  Speaker 1: Acting a fool. I'm like, what's wrong with you? And
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: she was like, you know what, mom, I'm afraid to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: go to school. I was like, why? I was like,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: you go to a school that you love. It's an
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: art school.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 17: She's like, what if I don't make friends in ninth grade?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 17: So what that does and what that tells me is
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 17: that every kid has fears.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: And so rather than say, oh, you're going to make friends.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 17: What about that is scary to you? She goes, what
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 17: if they don't like me? I said, you already know them.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 17: I said, and here's the truth. You're already accepted. You're
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 17: already amazing. Whoever God has for you to be your friend,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 17: they're going to be awesome. So lean into, I don't
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 17: need a whole bunch of friends. What if I just
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 17: make one? And so as we start to talk it out,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 17: she realizes, like, I can relax. It's going to be
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 17: all right. But it's really just dialoguing with them.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: I'm somebody who deals with anxiety. And one thing I've learned,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: and I want to know what y'all think about this.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Do we actively teach children that fear is weakness when
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: fear is actually information? That's correct. That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 17: And I think it's the leaning in that allows the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 17: information to inform your brain and your heart how to react.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 17: It's not that it's not scary. It's that if you
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 17: ask the right questions, you can proceed with the bravery
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 17: and the courage.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy. You know, we're believers.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 17: And one of the things that always shocks me is
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 17: that the scriptures is a lot of times it says,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 17: be bold and courageous.
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  Speaker 1: The only reason it would say that is what you're
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: facing is scary. Because otherwise, there's no reason to say that, right?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 17: So when we're dealing with giants in our lives, whatever
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 17: that may look like, we have to do it afraid.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: But how do we do it afraid?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 17: We lean in and we do hard things. It's not
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 17: that we don't do the things that we need to do,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 17: but it's learning how to do it the right way
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 17: and doing it afraid and saying, guess what? It's okay
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 17: to be afraid, but I know that you'll do this
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 17: and do it well.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And from that standpoint, when we.
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  Speaker 16: Like I said, if you can catch it early, if
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 16: you can get to the kids before fear. grabs a
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 16: stranglehold on them and.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: To teach them.
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  Speaker 16: And like you said, some fear is not unfathomable. You
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 16: need to be afraid of that. I need to put
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 16: fear in you in certain instances. When you want to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 16: put your fingers in the socket or whatever, no, don't
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 16: do that. I need you to be afraid of what
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 16: will happen, not only if you do that, but what
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 16: I will do to you if I catch you trying
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 16: to do that. And so I think that it is
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 16: important for us to be able to give a healthy
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 16: measure of what fear is, but also to equip.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: People to understand.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 16: And I say people, even our little people, we need
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 16: them to understand that fear is not something, you know,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 16: to shy away from, but to be able to face
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 16: it and recognize what it is. Because, you know, I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 16: think the more you run from your fear or whatever,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 16: You know, it'll chase you your entire lifetime.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 15: Now, the baby boy who the story is about.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Yes. How old is he now? Now he's 22.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: 22.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's about to turn 23. At Morehouse.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Does he get his royalties in publishing? No, it's okay.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: I was about to ask that.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Listen, he's the whole franchise. Okay. Guess what?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 17: At the end of the day, all of this is
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 17: going to be theirs, right? So we leave a legacy
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 17: and inheritance.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: To our children's children's children. Yeah.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 17: It's going to be good. And it's funny because we
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 17: had him at the release party and it was so funny.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 17: The kids were like, he's so big. I said, yes, look,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 17: and he made it and he's brave.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: They're like, I can do this. I was like, yes.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Is he still scared under the bed? No, not in
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: the bed. It's the linemen come across the line. How
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: would his book teach a child to distinguish between fear
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: that's protecting them and fear that's limiting them?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 17: Um, it, So the idea of it is, is that
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 17: when we are putting our kids to bed, right? So
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 17: this is a story really designed to talk about the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 17: things that they were afraid of in that day. And
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 17: so what we want to do is invite the parents
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 17: to have conversations with about what the child has dealt
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 17: with during the day. And so we want them to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 17: understand when we have fear, it's okay to be fearful,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 17: but what can you do about it? We can invite
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 17: faith into that and say, God made you brave. You
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 17: can do hard things. You can be bold. You can
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 17: be courageous. And really, the truth is, as much of
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 17: the negative words that we've said... If we say the
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 17: positive and we show them, because they don't come with fears.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: They don't.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 17: Just like we talked about our one-year-old granddaughter. She has
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 17: zero fear, zero inhibitions. She will walk right off the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 17: side of the pool, right into the water. And so
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 17: it's one of those things is that now we're teaching
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 17: them how to have conversations, to pay attention to what's
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 17: going on inside them, and note that this doesn't have
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 17: to be this way.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: What's something your children taught you about God that church
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: never could?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 17: That a love of a child... is one of the
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 17: most innocent and beautiful things that you could ever steward.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 17: I don't think we talk about that in church very much,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 17: but it is one of the greatest gifts that you
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 17: get is to see this person that you created, but
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 17: you get to navigate them through. The good the bad
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 17: the ugly whatever that is and that I get to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 17: be a good steward over this kid But what I
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 17: pour in I get out when I was a kid
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 17: My mom used to tell me you can't plant peas
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 17: and get corn You can't put the negativity and the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 17: the all the stuff that we get from the world
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 17: We have to start with what we put in there.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 17: It's gonna come out eventually they go through rough patches
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 17: they go through rough times, but the truth is I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 17: They always come back and it always comes around.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 16: For me, let me just jump in there real quick
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 16: that I learned the most valuable lesson that I've ever
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 16: learned about ministry that church could not teach me. And
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 16: this is when we had first brought our daughter Samantha
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 16: home and she was three days old and she wasn't eating.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 16: And at the time, we didn't know what was going on.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 16: And then literally, baby started turning blue or whatever. And
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 16: we didn't know what to do. And so we end
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 16: up rushing to the hospital or whatever. And when we're there,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 16: this is a three-day-old baby who hadn't eaten. We're trying
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 16: to breastfeed and everything. And she just would not eat.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 16: And so when we get to the hospital, they basically
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 16: tell us, hey, we're going to need to do a
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 16: spinal tap.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: As a father.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 16: them coming to me to say, hey, we need to
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 16: do this to your daughter for her to live. And
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 16: I'm thinking to myself, they're coming to me for the answer.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 16: My wife is looking at me. Everybody's looking to me
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 16: to be like, what do you what do you do?
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 16: And I had to trust one. OK, well, God, you
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 16: gave her to us. And so she was yours before
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 16: she was ours. And even I don't want to make
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 16: this decision. I have to trust that. I'm going to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 16: put her in the hands of the people that are
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 16: saying they know more than what I know. And so
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 16: the closest I've ever tried to imagine what it is
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 16: to give up your child for somebody else, what God
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 16: did for us through Jesus, that was what I felt
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 16: like it gave me the closest understanding of what it
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 16: is to actually be willing to sacrifice a life that
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 16: you love so much, but trusting God in that space.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 16: And so I've never wanted to have to do that again,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 16: but from that standpoint, just understanding I'm not God, but
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 16: if I could get a glimpse of what he felt
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 16: like to give up his child, to me, that's what
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 16: I got out of that.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: I always tell parents to double check and make sure
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: triple check. So something similar happened last year, Christmas time.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: They told me my daughter would need brain surgery. Something
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: didn't sit right with me. And we took her out
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: of New Jersey and I took her to a hospital
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: in New York. And when the doctors seen her in
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: New York, He came, he looked at the charts, he
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: started laughing, right? So I didn't find it funny.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the f * * * is so funny?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm serious, what the f * * * is
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: so funny? Stop cursing in front of the church.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: People, man.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: Because I'm telling you exactly what you're telling me. So
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: we're sitting there, me and my wife's in, the baby's in,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: the baby is wrapped up. And he was like, those
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: doctors told you in Jersey that she needed brain surgery.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he starts laughing. I'm like, what's so funny?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: He was like, she doesn't need brain surgery. He was like,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: there's nothing on this chart that tells me she needs
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: brain surgery. What she does need is that she needs
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: to clean out everything that's in her nose. Oh, sinuses.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: She needs up to it, her sinuses. But she has
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: a sinus infection, no brain surgery.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Brain surgery is crazy. That's crazy.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: So if we would have left her there, they probably
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: would have started with the brain surgery and messed her up.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: And I still didn't believe the doctors. I'm like, two
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: doctors told me she needed this.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: They did the sinus thing and within... hours, face cleared up.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: It was the craziest thing. And it just made me think, like,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: when it comes to that, you got to ask, you
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: got to double check, you got to triple check.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Ask all the questions.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, I called Charlemagne because they told me the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: best children's hospital was in South Carolina.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Remember I called you? I'm like, give me that number.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Can you get this? Like, it was that. I get it.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Because you're so scared. But I know you guys have
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: And before you go, I want to talk about September
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. I want to talk about
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: that before you go and why it's so important and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: why people should get checked and how they should get checked.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: You beat it twice.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: So break it down to the brothers out there listening.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 16: Two-time cancer survivor. Last time I was here last year
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 16: was Prostate Cancer Awareness Month and I was headed into
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 16: a treatment. I had my prostate removed. November of 2024.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 16: And then cancer came back in 2025. And so at
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 16: that time, I then went from not having a prostate
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 16: to now having proton therapy, which was 37 rounds of
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 16: this radiation treatment or whatever. And I can say several
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 16: different things. One, I am my PSA, which is prostate
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 16: specific antigen level. which is characterized by a blood test now.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 16: You don't have to do the finger checks. My PSA
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 16: is sub 0.01, which is undetectable, meaning I'm cancer free.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 16: So thank God for that. One in every eight men
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 16: will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. One
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 16: in every six will be African-American and less likely to
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 16: survive it because of late diagnosis.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 17: They usually don't get diagnosed until stage four. And so
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 17: then now you have less choices.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: How often do you get checked for prostate?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 16: Is it yearly when you do? No, I don't get
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 16: checked for prostate anymore. Cause I don't have a prostate.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: How often should somebody get checked?
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 16: Well right now, well, how often should somebody get checked
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 16: is normally once a year when your physicals, once you
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 16: reach a certain age for African American, then you want
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 16: to start going probably a little earlier. They say, as
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 16: early as 35 to 40.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: It's in blood. It's just in your blood now.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 16: You just have to ask for the test. But you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 16: have to ask for the test because when you go
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 16: just for a regular physical, they're not going to check
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 16: your PSA.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: That's correct. They're not. It's crazy.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: That's crazy because a lot of people assume, though, that
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: when you go to the doctor and they give blood,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: they'll be like, everything's clear.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: You automatically think that they checked everything. No, you have
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: to ask. You have to ask for it. You have
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: to ask. And it's super important because.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 17: The thing is, the insurance companies, it costs like $ 75, right,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 17: for them to do. So that's why they don't want
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 17: everybody doing it, right? But the truth is, is it
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 17: pales in comparison.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 16: They're trying to pass legislation now and do some different
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 16: things to get it mandatory. Like when a woman, they
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 16: want you to have mammograms or X, Y, and Z.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 16: They're starting to want men to have PSA, but they
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 16: haven't passed that legislation yet. Hopefully, we're somewhere at the
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 16: forefront of that. But ultimately, the goal is now I go...
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 16: every four months to go back and just have blood
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 16: checked or whatever. And then at some point when I'm clear,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 16: it'll be six months and then a year. And then
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 16: I think after like 10 years or whatever, then you
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 16: don't have to do that anymore.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Y'all have to leave? Yeah. Well, how can they get
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: the book?
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 17: Anywhere you can possibly buy a book.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: You can get it. Amazon, Books A Million. We like Amazon,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: but Barnes & Noble, Books A Million. Wherever you can
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: get a book. Oh, my God.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Both of my kids got memberships at Books A Million.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the latest with Lauren. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: She be having the latest on you. The latest with
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  Speaker 1: Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. What was
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Hey.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So over the weekend, we've been following this, just kind
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: of talking about things as they happen a bit. Little Dirk,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Little Dirk, over the weekend, it was announced that he
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: was found not guilty in the murder for hire case
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: that is happening in L.A., So he is now exonerated
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: in this murder for hire case because the jury found
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: him not guilty on all five of the charges. It
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: only took them three days to deliberate to return this
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: verdict and his alleged involvement in that 2022 shooting in L.A.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: that ended up in Quando Rondo's cousin being killed.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: But he's still locked up though, right?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still locked up because he has another case
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: that he's fighting. There's another RICO case that he's fighting
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: that he's going to have to deal with over in Chicago.
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  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I mean, this is a big... thing to
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: walk away from.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people pointing to, you know,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Brian Steele as, you know, on the defense team and, yeah,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: Drew Finland as well on the defense team. But I honestly,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what was going to happen, but I
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: don't know if I knew it would be like he
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: just walked away from all of those charges.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said before, I never... I never
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: understood what they had on, Dirk, because when you put
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: these guys on the stand that are confessing to all
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: of these different crimes that they committed and they're trying
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: to save their own ass, they can point the finger
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: at anybody. I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: Unless you got evidence and then you got people that are,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I guess, validating that evidence, I never understood the whole
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: cooperating witness thing. You can just put somebody on the
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: stand and they can just... Accused you of all types
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: of stuff?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're supposed to be telling the truth because if
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: they cooperate, they get less time. But, like, yeah, if
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: you're talking about life and you could possibly get some
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: numbers where you could come home, you're going to say
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: anything you have to to say to get home.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes... But.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: I will say, sometimes that works because the defense isn't
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: as good as showing you that these people are not trustworthy.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: So that legal team that Dirk has set up, I
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: don't care who sent them, who did not send them, they.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: They did a good job.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Yes. I ain't heard y'all give no praises to Allah
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: yet because I will tell you this. Well, I can't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: wait to see what God has in store for Lil
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  Speaker 1: Durk because before Durk went in, he clearly was trying
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: to change his life.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: Clearly.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, his album called Almost Healed. you know,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: he was going to therapy and things of that nature.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Like he was given, he had submitted his will to God. Like,
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  Speaker 1: so I can't wait to see what the second act
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: is after this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, real quick, before we stop talking about Lil Durk,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: I do want to mention Amber Grimes sat down with
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: his mom, Lil Durk's mom on If You Knew Better,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: which is her podcast.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: It's on the Black Effect podcast network.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: And it was so sad to hear, but Lil Durk's
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: mom was talking about kind of who she blamed for
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: all that Durk recently went through.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 13: I feel like Everything that has happened is my fault.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 13: I blame myself for my son getting killed and I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 13: blame myself for my son being locked up. I know
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 13: for a fact it's my fault because if I would
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 13: listen to my mom then on what to do and
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 13: how to do it, how to move, how to go
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 13: finish school, how to get your career going so that
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 13: you can get about the neighborhood that we're living in,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 13: which is 7220. And I kept putting it off like, Oh,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 13: I got plenty of time to do that. If I
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 13: would have listened like I was supposed to, we would
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 13: have been somewhere totally different. They would have been raised different.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 13: And I felt like everything would have been better. Right now,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 13: I'm just going through the motions right now to try
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 13: to get everything back on track.
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  Speaker 15: Do you believe there's still time for you to do that?
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 13: It's never too late. I've been asked my children for forgiveness.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 13: And they're like, for what?
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  Speaker 2: What did you do?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: They think the world of me.
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  Speaker 13: And I never understood why.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: That's powerful.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, that was If You Knew Better. It
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: was a conversation with Amber Grimes. And her name is Ms.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: LaShonda Woodard. That's Dirk's mom. So she was talking about
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: the passing of his brother D-Thing as well, too.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah. It's understandable, right?
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: Because as parents, you want to make sure that you
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 6: put your kids in the best predicament, in the best situation,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: whatever that may be. And sometimes we work hard to
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: do it. And I understand why she would feel that way.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: I'm sure she feels like if I would have did
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: it this way, I would have got out of that
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: part of Chicago. I would have been able to raise
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: them in this part. And maybe they wouldn't have went
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: down a lifestyle like they did. But you also can't
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: blame yourself, right? Because you don't have a... You're doing.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: The best you can with what you have.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Match all of it to the future. But she's essentially
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: saying she wished she would have broke But I think
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: one of the most important things that she said was
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: she should have listened to the adults that came before her.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: If she'd have listened to her mom, then she would
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: have made better choices and she would have got out
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: that environment and things might have been different. for her kids.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of different lessons to be learned
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: in that. But one of the biggest takeaways is listen
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: to the people who came before you.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: And I know it was emotional for her and her
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: family and for Dirk. I saw some of the reporters
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: in the courtroom mentioned how emotional it was for them.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: So yes.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all.
• 1:39:15
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  Speaker 6: Now, let's get to the mix. Today is Nas' birthday.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: We're going to start the mix off with some Nas.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: It's The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are The Breakfast Club. I want to salute to
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: my little baby girls again.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn and London.
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  Speaker 3: Fire.
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  Speaker 6: If you didn't listen to earlier, they made the New
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: York City's Kids Dancer.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: So, they are. Fire.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: Going to be dancing at the home game. So if
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: you head to some of the Knicks games, you probably.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Will see them. Hopefully you'll see them. I'm super duper excited.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 6: There's 26 kids to make the team, but they divide
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: them off to 13 to 13 because they are kids
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: and they are working and they are getting paid.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: They can only work a certain amount.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: Of hours a week. So they will be working. So
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: they will be getting their first checks and I'm excited
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: for them. So they understand how important this is and
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: how they got to be on time, how they got
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 6: to be with kids.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: They have a special appearances. It's pretty dope.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: So salute again to the Nick City Kids Dancers. Salute
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: to LaToya, who was the coach. Salute to Jen. They
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: are the choreographers of this thing, and they really, really,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 6: really love the kids.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: So I just want to say thank you. I'm just
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: happy they're making some money.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 7: Again.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: My daughter was a cheerleader, and boy, they don't make
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: no money. Them cheerleading competitions, like being a cheer dad,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: you're just putting out, putting out, putting out. So the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: fact that they're in dance and they're already making some money, oh,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: my God. Yeah, now they're making money. They get paid
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: for rehearsing. They get paid for performing. They get paid
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: for special appearances. They get paid for all that. And
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: they're super duper excited. I know that's right.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: And congratulations.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: That got to feel good as a parent.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: I just love watching them. I just love watching them
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: do something that they really want to do.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: But you work hard to get your babies into things.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: You never know what's going to stick and what's going
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: to happen. So I know that that feels good to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: watch and see.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And also we got to salute to Dr. Jess
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: for joining us this morning. Salute to Dr. Jessica Clemons.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Very important conversation we had today. Speaking of babies. Yes,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: very important conversation we had today about postpartum psychosis. You know, Dr.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist, and, you know, that
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: is her specialty, you know, dealing with pregnant women and
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: maternal health. So salute to her, you know, maternal mental health,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: you know. So salute to Dr. Jessica Clemons, and make
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: sure you go check out that full conversation on Netflix.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: And also salute to Kristen and Montel Jordan for joining us.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: They stopped through today to talk about their new children's book,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 6: Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed, a book
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 6: about overcoming fear with faith. So salute to them.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: For joining us.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: Why would you point to me?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: You just sent me something, and I was on a
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: flight with him yesterday. Oh, okay. You know who I
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: want to salute to? I want to salute to Mr.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: Abdul.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Salute to you, brother. That is a scissors father. You know,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: every time I run into scissors parents, you know, Miss
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Audrey and Mr. Abdul, they're all always very pleasant people, man.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: And I saw Mr. Abdul last night. Got to spend
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: some time with him and have a have a have
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: a conversation. So salute to him.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Older people love you.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a nice human.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: I know you are. You just don't act like it
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: all the time. But you are.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: You are. Does any human act like it?
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: You fine by me.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: I'm consistent.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: What the auntie say?
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: You fine by me. Get over there and do that
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: little dance.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Them aunties be like, you so handsome.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know what it is.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: It's the cataracts. It's the cataracts.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Because I'm 90s rom-com fine. Baby. How do you say
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: it to him? He says, how do you say I am? Like,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: usually people say you are.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: No, it's the cataracts. I promise you. Every time somebody
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: be like, they be like, the eyes.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: I be like, of the devil?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: The eyes.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: They think you're a woman. The eyes.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: The brows.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: When we come back, positive notice of Breakfast Club. Envy
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: just described me and got bricked up. He's like, no,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: it's a thick thigh. You see, they think he a woman.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: You see how he just described me? Why are you
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: thinking about me like that? Time to get up out
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: of here. You got a positive note?
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: First, I want to tell everybody, though, you know my
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening on World Mental
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Health Day at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Event Center. and Newark, New Jersey. It is a completely
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: free event. Salute to the good brother, Dr. Jay Barnett.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: He will be there. The good sister, Debbie Brown, she's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: hosting it along with me, and she's curating the whole event, man.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Rita Walker, the author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Mental Health, she's going to be there. The good brother,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Kiara Gaines, is going to be there. Elliot Connie is
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: going to be there. Salute to Michelle Williams. She's back
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: joining us this year. The last couple of years, She's
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: been on Broadway, but she's going to be there with
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: us at the Mental Wealth Expo. And just right now,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: I am letting everybody know that Dr. Julius Thomas will
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: be there along with Dr. Ayanla Vanzant. And we are
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: doing a healing the heart and rewiring the brain presentation
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: with Dr. Julius Thomas and Dr. Ayan Levanzant. So Saturday,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: October 10th, doors open at 1030 a.m. The Joelle and
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: It is a free event, completely free and open to
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: all ages. Just go to mentalwealthexpo.com, the RSVP to be there. Now,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: the positive note is simply this. Abundance often arrives when
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: desperation leaves. OK, the less you chase from a place
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: of lack, the more freely life begins to unfold. Not
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: because the universe rewards indifference, but because contentment frees you
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: to recognize opportunities you once overlooked. When your heart is
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: no longer grasping, your hands are finally grasping. Open to receive.
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