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MINI SCROLL: Chappell Roan responds to backlash, Aspyn Ovard confirms divorce, Mormon MomTok drama + Sophia La Corte addresses online hate · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy, and the digital space.
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  Every Monday through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  Happy Monday. I have so many stories for you
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  you. OK, let's get into the stories
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  because I have a few of them for you guys.
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  So the first one, of course, Chapel Roan has addressed the
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  backlash over calling out her fans invasive behavior.
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  So Chapel Roan is back after calling out her fans for
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  invading her privacy in public spaces since she skyrocketed to
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  fame. So last week, Chapel posted two
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  Tik toks about how uncomfortable it makes her when fans approach
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  her in public, ask for photos or cross certain boundaries with
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  her. And as we know, this is not the
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  first time that she has spoken about this.
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  She has been very vocal about how she doesn't really like
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  being approached in public. So her videos they were met with
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  kind of mixed reception from fans.
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  On one hand, people were calling her entitled and saying that she
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  knew what she signed up for in pursuing fame.
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  On the other hand, it brought up really meaningful discussion
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  about that fan celebrity dynamic and kind of the entitlement that
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  fans feel to have non-stop access to their favorite artist
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  just because they like resonate with their music.
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  Overall, though, I would say it there did seem to be some
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  confusion about who she was specifically speaking about in
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  those videos. That was obviously because she
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  was quite like emotional and it seemed like those videos were
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  really off the cuff. But it was unclear if she was
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  basically saying like, don't ever come up to me in public to
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  like every single fan or if she was more speaking specifically
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  to super fans who are going way beyond just, you know, like
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  saying hi and asking for a photo.
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  So anyways, now Chapel has clarified what she meant in
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  those Tik Toks. She posted a carousel on
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  Instagram and it was these tech slides and followed up by an
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  Instagram story. So I'll read some of it.
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  It is quite long but I'll read the gist of it.
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  So she said for the past 10 years I've been going non-stop
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  to build my project and it's come to the point that I need to
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  draw lines and set boundaries. I want to be an artist for a
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  very very long time. I've been in too many non
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  consensual physical and social interactions and I just need to
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  lay it out and remind you women don't owe you shit.
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  She talks about how when she's on stage, when she's in drag,
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  when she is like in her work persona Chapel, she's at work.
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  She says in any other circumstance, I am not in work
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  mode, I am clocked out. I don't agree with the notion
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  that I owe a mutual exchange of energy, time or attention to
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  people I do not know, do not trust or who creep me out just
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  because they're expressing admiration.
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  And then she talks a lot about being touched.
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  So clearly that is like, I think one of the catalysts for her
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  videos in general was that she experienced either an individual
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  like moment where she was being touched by a super fan and it
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  was so creepy to her that she like came on TikTok and talked
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  about it. Or this has happened multiple
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  times where she like keeps getting touched by super fans.
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  And you know, she talks about how like that's not okay and
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  like do not touch her. And she says do not call her by
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  her given name, Kaylee. And I think that's a pretty good
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  response. I think without having to like,
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  directly address the backlash and like the the questions
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  around her TikTok, she was able to convey like it's not the
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  people who come up to her when she is, you know, at a show, for
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  example, and she's dressed in drag and she is Chapel Roan and
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  she is working. And they're really respectful
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  and they go up to her and they say, I love your music.
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  Can I please have a selfie? And that's that, you know,
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  that's those aren't the fans that she was talking about in
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  those Tik Toks. However, I still stand by my
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  initial thing that I said last week, which is like, there is
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  clearly something going on with the music industry and labels
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  and talent managers and like their lack of support around
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  these emerging artists, especially in the social media
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  age. And I think maybe this is a bit
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  far fetched, but it makes me question if, you know, because
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  these artists are capitalizing on this authenticity and getting
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  so popular because they are so authentic and raw and open in
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  their music or how they show up on social media and that's
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  what's helping, you know, really grow their fanbase.
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  I have to wonder if there is something more sinister going on
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  when it comes to how the labels are like, not supporting these
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  artists because they want them to remain authentic because then
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  they're not changing. And therefore they don't seem as
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  like PR trained. They don't see media trained.
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  And that's going to, you know, resonate more with their
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  audiences. And so therefore, we see these
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  instances like what happened with Chapel, where she doesn't
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  have the proper things in place to like, clearly to keep her
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  safe and make her feel OK on this journey.
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  How many artists have had overnight, you know, explosions
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  like this? There have been a lot.
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  You know, it's not like this is the first time this has ever
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  happened. There's just, it would be
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  overwhelming in general. But I think there is like,
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  there's something missing here, you know, like she is missing
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  some type of support that her team is not giving her.
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  And therefore she has like, come to the Internet to try and like,
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  set those boundaries for herself as opposed to the people who are
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  behind the Chapel run machine, the Chapel run brand, like
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  helping her establish those in a realistic way.
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  You know, when you think about the fact that she's saying she's
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  being touched, I'm trying to think of any other celebrity who
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  is that famous who was consistently being touched by
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  fans. I just don't think that's
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  happening. Like that's fucked up.
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  And that's like, of course, like the fan behavior is like a whole
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  other side of the story. And we've done a lot of deep
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  dives and like conversations, had a lot of conversations on
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  this podcast about like stand them and super fans and the
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  entitlement of fandoms. So this is not like what I'm
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  talking about here is not necessarily related to the fans
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  because we've had lots of those discussions and there's so much
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  going on and so much wrong with fandom culture.
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  What I'm talking about here is like, aside from the fans who
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  like they just should not be touching her, why is there
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  nothing in place that's preventing them from touching
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  her? I don't know what's going on.
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  Hopefully this was a wake up call to her team, to the
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  industry, if that is any part of their strategy where they're
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  like, let's keep them authentic. And we saw that with Renee Rapp,
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  right? Like we, we do keep seeing this
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  where it's like these kind of like artists who come out of
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  almost like Internet fandom and they're not as polished and
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  people like that. And therefore it feels like
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  these teams behind them are forgoing typical like PR in
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  media training and also forgoing the standard procedures of like
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  helping keeping them safe. I don't know, helping, keeping
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  them whatever, you know what I mean?
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  I don't know, I feel like there's something going on here
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  that people are consistently able to touch Chapel Roan like
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  that's that's not OK. OK, the next story that I have
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  for you guys is that Aspen Ovard has confirmed her divorce months
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  after secretly filing. So YouTube.
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  Aspen Ovard has shocked fans by very casually addressing her
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  divorce in a new TikTok video. In a TikTok video posted on
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  August 22nd, Aspen used the demure trend to confirm that she
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  is divorcing her long time partner Parker Ferris.
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  You see how I don't talk about my divorce online?
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  Very demure, very mindful. You see how I considered my
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  children and how it would affect them to have their family's
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  personal information shared all over the Internet.
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  Very smart, very good mom. You see how those magazines and
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  websites wrote articles sharing personal information that I
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  hadn't shared yet when I had just given birth to a premature
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  baby who was in the NICU? Very trashy.
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  Very. Tacky.
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  On April 1st, court filings were obtained by People magazine that
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  showed Aspen had filed for divorce.
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  That same day, Aspen announced the birth of the couples third
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  daughter. Aspen then paused the divorce
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  proceedings in court. But obviously it now seems like
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  they are going ahead again. Aspen also recently announced
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  last month that she is moving to California.
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  So there is definitely like a lot of first like next chapters
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  for her. And for some background context,
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  if you have no idea who Aspen is, she's like an oog YouTube.
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  And that's why people are freaking out because they've
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  been on this journey with her and Parker for like a decade,
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  right? So Aspen and her husband, Parker
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  Ferris married in 2015. Aspen was 19 and Parker was 20.
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  All right, the next story that I have for you guys is I'm going
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  to break down the like most recent Mormon mom talk drama
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  that is happening on TikTok. So the Secret Lives of Mormon
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  Wives is already causing so much drama online and it hasn't even
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  aired. So the show will follow a cast
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  of LDS mommy TikTok stars who were involved in that viral
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  swinging scandal a couple of years ago.
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  Now some other prominent LDS mommy vloggers have started
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  discussing the show and their take on it, and that has caused
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  a lot of drama online. Miranda Mcwhorter, who was
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  involved in the swinging scandal as well, went on weekly Trash
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  podcast this week, and she claimed that she and her friend
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  Camille Monday were offered Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,
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  but they declined. Did you get?
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  Approached by secret lies and Mormon wives at all.
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  You did. Yeah.
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  So Camille and I had multiple interviews or calls with them.
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  Yeah. And it just never like her.
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  And I agreed. It like just like pit in our
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  stomach every time. And I'm not saying that that's
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  like that. It was that that's the thing for
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  our lives. Yeah.
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  For our lives. Like it just didn't feel right
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  at all. Are you already got exploited on
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  the Internet without my consent? You think I'm going to?
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  Ask that so then this clip was starting to go viral and then
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  Taylor Frankie, who also, of course, was involved in the
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  swinging scandal. We know and is the show's
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  central cast member. She posted a TikTok shading what
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  Miranda said. She wrote them quote, we got
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  offered the show and declined how it actually went.
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  Quote, we'll do the show if Taylor isn't on it.
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  So she's basically claiming that Miranda and Camille like didn't
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  want to do the show if Taylor was on it.
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  Then Miranda clapped back with receipts, sharing screenshots of
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  text messages between her, Camille and their manager.
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  Their manager says final thoughts on mom talk show is
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  that we're passing, right? Camille says for me, yes, I'm
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  passing. Miranda said do they even know
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  if Taylor is on the show or not yet?
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  Manager says we won't know until the actual court date, which is
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  in May. Camille says yeah, she pushed it
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  out. Manager says, OK, so pass.
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  And then Miranda says, yeah, I wish I could make a decision
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  after I knew what the verdict was going to be with her, but
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  either way, it's probably not good for me.
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  That is, I guess, supposed to show that they did not really
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  consider Taylor as much as like she is claiming that they did
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  and their decision not to go on it.
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  All right. And the last story that I have
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  for you guys, this is an update. Sophia Lacourt is really leaning
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  into her villain era with an unhinged video response and also
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  her own remix of Ken's viral sound.
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  So Sophia Lacourt is really riding out her viral TikTok
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  moment and going like full villain.
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  Over the weekend, she made a response to all the hate that
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  she's been receiving over the Hallie Cage Reed drama.
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  And in the video, she just really shows like how she's
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  approaching the situation, I think from like a professional
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  standpoint. So I said last week that I think
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  it's obvious that she's like playing the villain that people
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  want her to be in this scenario. I think for her, she's using
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  this moment to like, help launch her acting career.
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  We know she's been an aspiring actress for a long time.
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  So in this video, she basically starts off crying and she's
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  saying, like the hate is too much.
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  And then literally, she just like, flips on a dime.
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  And she's basically like ha, joking, like Psych.
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  I never thought that I would be one of the girls that sets up
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  her camera and cries on the Internet, but I genuinely feel
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  like so many people are just coming on here and bullying me
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  for fun. Like I saw a video today and
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  it's a it's just a video of a girl saying that she wanted to
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  beat me up and then had so many legs.
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  Like I'm scared. Like thank God I'm OK.
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  OK, if you guys actually think that I would come on here and
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  cry, you have the wrong bitch. I have to like get out of
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  character now because you guys make me do too much.
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  Like congratulations, you make a video saying that you want to
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  assault me. Like, do you want a medal, you
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  freak? OK, then she made a remix of
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  Ken's sound that is going viral about her.
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  I never feel the need. To speak on drama, but I
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  actually hate that little ginger bitch.
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  I hate her, I hate her. And everyone is like, I can't
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  believe you made the remix. Like, you're not supposed to
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  make the remix of, like, the sound about you.
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  Like, someone else has to make this.
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  But I mean, honestly, it's popping off.
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  And I think what's so interesting about this strategy
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  is that it literally is working. People are starting to come
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  around to Sophia because people just can't believe how unhinged
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  this is. Like I don't think it's
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  necessarily making her more likable, but people are kind of
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  like, OK, well, this is like entertaining and kind of funny
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  that she's like leaning in so hard and that she seems so
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  unbothered by all of this. And it's so confusing because
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  literally the whole Internet, like everyone on TikTok was
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  dragging her. And for it to not have impacted
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  her, I mean, that feels impossible, right?
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  But she's come, she's playing it up as if it has not impacted her
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  at all. And I think it reminds me of
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  Tricia Paytas. Like I always say this about
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  Tricia Paytas, is that like, you can't tell, especially in her
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  earlier days, you can't tell what's real and what's a bit for
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  the Internet. And that's what makes following
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  her so fascinating. And I think that's what Sophia
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  is doing here. Like you watching her content,
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  you're just confused, Is this real?
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  Is this all for clout? Is this a bit like, how does she
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  actually feel about this situation?
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  And I think we'll never know. But for now, she is like letting
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  herself be the villain in this love triangle.
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  And like I said, it actually is working for her and in her
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  favor, at least in the public eye.
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  All right, guys, well, that's it for today.
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  Oh, I mean, of course, Sabrina Carpenter's Short and Sweet came
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  out. I still, I'm like, not sure how
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  I feel about it. I love taste.
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  I think everyone loves taste but I don't have a strong opinion
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  one way or another yet. I feel like it kind of surprised
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  me how much it was not a departure from like what I I
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  just I expected it to all be more like taste and espresso
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  like very hyper bubble gum pop. I found a lot of the songs
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  reminded me of like her previous work, which is obviously fine,
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  but anyways, I don't have like strong opinions on it yet so I
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  don't really want to talk about it right now.
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  But that is it for today. Thank you so much for listening
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  to you tomorrow. Bye.