Latest / Fork U with Dr. Terry Simpson / MAHA Myths: Why Nutrition Alone Won’t Save You
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- 0:04>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Before 1800, even those who survived
- 0:06childhood rarely lived past their mid-30s to
- 0:09early 40s. And that was despite eating
- 0:12organically, free from microplastics and
- 0:14artificial dyes. It wasn't kale or root
- 0:17vegetables that boosted human lifespan. It
- 0:20was clean water, vaccines and modern
- 0:23medicine. That's why I cringe when I hear the likes
- 0:26of Mark Hyman say if
- 0:29doctors were trained in nutrition, we could prevent
- 0:3290% of heart disease and type 2
- 0:34diabetes. It sounds
- 0:37inspiring. It's also wrong.
- 0:40Today we'll unpack why, what the evidence really
- 0:43shows, and why public health depends on both
- 0:46nutrition and medicine.
- 0:52I'm Dr. Terry Simpson, your chief medical
- 0:54explanationist, and this is Fork U
- 0:56Fork University, where we make sense of the
- 0:59madness, bust myths, and teach you
- 1:02real food and real medicine.
- 1:08To begin with, I'm actually certified in culinary
- 1:10medicine and follow a Mediterranean diet. I
- 1:13believe in nutrition, but expecting it to work
- 1:16magic alone. That is not reality.
- 1:19The DASH trial dietary approach to stop
- 1:22hypertension showed that eating more fruits
- 1:25and vegetables while cutting sodium lowers
- 1:28blood pressure about as much as taking a single pill.
- 1:30That's great, but if you already have heart
- 1:33disease, diabetes or kidney problems,
- 1:36diet alone won't cure you. You need medicine,
- 1:39too. And here's the perspective Hyman leaves
- 1:42out. Life expectancy didn't soar
- 1:45because we ate clean. It soared because of
- 1:48sanitation, vaccines and modern medical
- 1:51care. Let's talk about a perfect
- 1:53example. Samoa. In 2019,
- 1:56Samoa had a diet health gurus would post
- 1:59on Instagram. Fresh fish,
- 2:02tropical fruit, root vegetables,
- 2:05then measles hit. Two years before, in
- 2:082017, two infants died after nurses
- 2:10improperly prepared MMR vaccines.
- 2:13Public trust collapsed in vaccinations. The
- 2:16government suspended its vaccination program for nearly 10
- 2:19months, and coverage plummeted to about
- 2:2231%. Into that
- 2:24gap stepped anti vaccine activists.
- 2:27Yes, including RFK Jr
- 2:30spreading misinformation. By
- 2:32October of 2019, measles had ripped through
- 2:35the islands. Over 5,700
- 2:38infections and 83 deaths, mostly
- 2:41in toddlers and infants, in a population of
- 2:44just 200,000. Schools
- 2:47closed, public gatherings were banned. The government
- 2:50ordered unvaccinated households to hang red
- 2:53flags outside so mobile vaccination
- 2:55teams could find them. Only when vaccination
- 2:58rates soared did the outbreak stop.
- 3:01Tahiti's story is familiar. Incredible
- 3:04diet, plenty of fresh local food. But measles
- 3:07still spread. The difference between
- 3:10life and death wasn't the menu. It
- 3:13was the vaccination. Nutrition is
- 3:16important, but against infection, disease,
- 3:19medicine, not mangoes, wins every
- 3:22time. Mark Hyman is a family medical trained
- 3:25physician. He co directed Canyon Ranch's health
- 3:27program, later founding the Cleveland Clinic's center
- 3:30for Functional Medicine. Though that leadership has quietly
- 3:33ended. Functional medicine isn't recognized by the
- 3:36American Board of Medical Specialties. You can get
- 3:39certified if you're a dentist, a nurse, or a
- 3:41chiropractor. Pay the fee, take the six
- 3:44month course, print the certificate. In
- 3:46California, at least, chiropractors can't legally call
- 3:49themselves physicians. But in other states they can
- 3:52and they do. And patients are
- 3:55easily misled. Now Hyman
- 3:58is pushing his Make m America Healthy Again
- 4:00movement, borrowing the RFK Jr
- 4:03playbook, using the language of prevention to sell
- 4:06supplements. Here's the money trail.
- 4:09My Crestor, a statin cost
- 4:12$2.36 for a three month
- 4:15supply. My doctor doesn't profit from prescribing
- 4:17it hymen supplements. 100 bucks for
- 4:20the same time straight into his pocket.
- 4:23Here's some real evidence. Let's talk about the Lion Diet
- 4:26heart study that showed the Mediterranean diet cut the risk
- 4:29of another heart attack by 72% in patients or
- 4:33with established heart disease. But here's the
- 4:35detail Hyman won't tell you. These patients stayed
- 4:38on statins, aspirins and blood pressure
- 4:41medications. The diet complemented
- 4:43medicine. It didn't replace it.
- 4:46The Jupiter trial found that statins reduced
- 4:49Cardiovascular events by 44% in people
- 4:52with a normal, low density lipoprotein. That's the
- 4:55bad cholesterol, but an elevated crp, that's
- 4:58a, uh, form of inflammation. You won't get that from
- 5:01kale or coconut oil. Medications like
- 5:03statins, antihypertensives, and modern
- 5:06diabetic drugs outperform diet alone.
- 5:09In advanced disease, nutrition training
- 5:12is important, but that should start from
- 5:14kindergarten to 12th grade. We
- 5:17doctors are here for absolution, not for
- 5:20repentance. Why? This is personal.
- 5:23You know, my dad had his first heart attack at age 55,
- 5:26and he had to retire because the heart attack was so bad from the University of
- 5:29Alaska. Doctors told him not to expect another
- 5:3220 years. Five years later, statins hit the
- 5:35market. He took them along with his other medications
- 5:38faithfully. He lived independently, wrote a
- 5:40memoir, and outlived, uh, both his primary care doctor
- 5:43and cardiologist. And he died at 98 just
- 5:46a couple of years ago. My dad didn't eat perfectly.
- 5:49There was always a bowl of candy by his chair. He drank
- 5:52a ton of coffee. But it was science, not
- 5:55perfection, that kept him alive and
- 5:58independent for 43 years after
- 6:01his heart attack. Here's the bottom
- 6:03line. Nutrition is essential.
- 6:06Medicine is essential. The best results
- 6:09come when we combine them. Science backed,
- 6:12not supplement hyped. When Hyman says
- 6:15doctors just need more nutritional training to prevent
- 6:1890% of diseases. RA Remember, that's a
- 6:21sound bite. That's not a solution.
- 6:28Check out my blog@yourdoctorsorders.com and
- 6:31forq.com this episode was
- 6:33researched and written by me, Dr. Terry Simpson. And uh, while I am
- 6:36a board certified physician, I am not your
- 6:39physician. If you're on a health journey, please check with
- 6:42your doctor. And a registered dietitian, Not a
- 6:44chiropractor, not an eastern trained shaman who can't
- 6:47prescribe or even pronounce the medications we've discussed.
- 6:51Distribution and audio were handled by my friends at Simpler media
- 6:54and the pod God. Mr. Evo Terra. Have, um,
- 6:57a good week everybody.
- 7:02Hey Evo, what percentage of functional medicine do you
- 7:05think is just functionally profitable?
- 7:11Profits over patience.
- 7:14Every time with those guys. Every time.