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- 0:00If you like sharks, then you're going to want to see climate change reduced before
- 0:042100. Because there is a new study out that says that if in the worst case
- 0:07scenario, if we continue to develop fossil fuels the way we are now, that
- 0:11sharks will only hatch at an 11% success rate.
- 0:15That means newborn sharks will only have an 11% success
- 0:18rate of actually hatching. We're going to talk about why that's important on
- 0:22today's episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. Let's start the show.
- 0:30Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of the how to protect the ocean podcast. I'm
- 0:33your host, Andrew Lewin. And this is a podcast where you find out what's happening with the ocean, how
- 0:37you can speak up for the ocean, what you can do to live for a better ocean by
- 0:40taking action. And on today's episode, we're going to be talking about
- 0:44sharks and why we love sharks so much. We love
- 0:47sharks so much because they're interesting. They're mysterious. They kind of scare
- 0:51us a little bit, but there's a lot of different species of sharks out
- 0:54there. There's over 1200 species of, sharks, skates,
- 0:57chimeras, stingrays, whatever you
- 1:01want to call your different types of sharks. They're out there. There's over
- 1:051,200. We talk a lot about sharks over on the Beyond Jaws
- 1:08podcast that I co-host with Dr. David Ebert, a.k.a. The
- 1:12Lost Shark Guy. So if you ever want to hear more about sharks, check out that
- 1:15podcast. But really, when it comes down to it, we
- 1:19love sharks. And sharks are important to the ecosystem. They're essentially
- 1:23a predator, and they pretty much have a good formation
- 1:27and form what a food web looks like because they, a
- 1:30lot of times, are apex predators. And we need to protect sharks as
- 1:34much as possible. We need to make sure that not only are they surviving in
- 1:38adulthood, but they're getting to adulthood. And to get to adulthood,
- 1:42you have to be able to hatch from their egg
- 1:46cases, right? That's what a lot of sharks do. They hatch from egg
- 1:49cases. And there's a study that came out that says, hey,
- 1:52you know what? the worst temperature gets and the more acidic
- 1:56the oceans get, the less we're going to have
- 2:00of sharks because they're not going to be able to hatch properly. And so that's a
- 2:03problem that we're going to talk about today. Before we do that though, if you're interested
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- 2:55this. Now this original story was found on fizz.org. I
- 2:59found this on The Cooldown. The Cooldown's a great website to
- 3:02learn more about climate change. Gotta love
- 3:05that. I'll see you And
- 3:31her team has found some disturbing data involving oceanic
- 3:35warming and acidification that are affecting small spotted
- 3:39cat sharks. So these are just one species that they've found. and
- 3:42that they did some experiments on, and they looked at some scenarios. And
- 3:47so the whole thing is we know
- 3:50that extreme weather is here. We're seeing spikes in
- 3:54ocean temperature. We're seeing increases
- 3:58in pH, meaning if you know the pH scale from 1 to
- 4:02about 15, I guess, somewhere around there, normal
- 4:06pH of an ocean is about 8.2, 8.3, normally 8.3. As
- 4:11it gets less of pH, as the pH decreases,
- 4:15we're actually seeing more acidification. So it's getting more acidic. So
- 4:197 is about neutral, anything under that is more acidic. And so when you
- 4:22start to see acidic water, you start to see the dissolving
- 4:27of anything that's made from calcareous material.
- 4:31So you'll see corals start to decay. You'll see
- 4:35mollusks like clams and oysters start
- 4:38to decay. Mussels start to decay. Scallops start
- 4:42to decay. Anything that has a shell, crustaceans such as
- 4:45shrimp and such as crabs and lobster, you won't see them grow
- 4:49as well because of the acidity in the water.
- 4:53The higher the temperature in the atmosphere, the more carbon
- 4:56dioxide that comes into the ocean, That carbon dioxide reacts
- 5:00with the calcium in the ocean, and there's less
- 5:04free calcium for those organisms to pick up,
- 5:07and so it becomes hydrocarbic acid, I think? And so
- 5:10it becomes more acidic, and then you get acid water,
- 5:14and you get less crustaceans, you get less molluscs that have
- 5:17shells on them. And that is not good, because those are habitats, right?
- 5:21You get less coral reefs as well. Anything that has
- 5:25a calcium-based shell, you get less of,
- 5:29because it'll slowly start to weather away. It won't be as strong. And
- 5:32so what they're saying here is as temperatures increase and as acidity increases
- 5:37as well, you are going to get less of
- 5:40these types of organisms, including, apparently,
- 5:44small-spotted cat sharks. essentially
- 5:49study was about, that they said here, the hatching success
- 5:53of embryos is crucial factor for population dynamics. In
- 5:56the case of skates and sharks, which have a slow pace of life, low
- 6:00hatching rates could be critical for population renewal.
- 6:04This is Coulombe, the PhD student who shared this article.
- 6:07So luckily we've gotten advanced notice about how environmental changes
- 6:11due to heat and pollution can affect Not just ocean life, but
- 6:14every creature on the planet. So why is this
- 6:18information important? Studies have shown that warmer ocean temperatures impair
- 6:22cognitive function in fish and abnormally high spikes
- 6:26in North Atlantic seas could lead to high mortality rates.
- 6:29The NOAA's projections for the year 2100 showed a pH and carbon levels that
- 6:35could begin dissolving the shells of crustaceans. So this
- 6:38is like lobster, shrimp, crabs, and so forth. Kulo's team
- 6:43created several tiered scenarios for the future and
- 6:46had, so they basically went from less impact
- 6:50to most impact. So SSP2, or middle of the
- 6:53road model, which describes a future where progress towards reducing
- 6:56pollution is underway. This is what we're hoping to see, but net zero
- 7:00isn't achieved just yet. They offered an 83% survival
- 7:04rate of the sharks. But if you go to the other extreme, the
- 7:08SSP5, or the fossil-fueled development scenario,
- 7:12was quite dire. They were shocked to see the low
- 7:16survival rate observed in the SSP5 scenario with
- 7:19only 11% of embryos hatching. So
- 7:25what is the problem with that? You're going to have less sharks. You're going to
- 7:29have less small spotted cat sharks, which also could mean
- 7:32less sharks of other species of sharks and
- 7:36skates and stingrays that have these egg cases. There's
- 7:39something in the water when it's acidic that these egg cases don't
- 7:43do well. The development is not as good. And
- 7:46so we're gonna start to see low development, low survival
- 7:50rates, and that's gonna kill off a lot of sharks in the
- 7:53future. Now, what can we do? It's really take action against
- 7:57climate change. That is the big thing. More research needed on
- 8:00figuring out which species will be affected. But other than that, you
- 8:04wanna find out how we can reduce climate change. Reducing climate
- 8:08change should be the biggest movement
- 8:11that we've ever seen. And we're starting to see governments work on that. too
- 8:15slow in my opinion, but slowly starting to work on that,
- 8:19but they need to do better. They need to start focusing on
- 8:23more advanced policies, stricter rules for
- 8:26emissions, getting back into policies that
- 8:30are positive for the environment, that are positive for the atmosphere, looking
- 8:35at equality and equity within action,
- 8:39giving back local communities with help, just it's everything.
- 8:43We need to throw the book at it. We need to throw everything we have
- 8:47and say, hey, you know what? We're going to reduce climate change. We're
- 8:51going to reduce climate change as much as possible, as
- 8:54fast as we can. And more governments have to act more aggressively. Now,
- 8:59it sounds easy to do. But it's not, right? You know this,
- 9:02like we've been talking about this for a long time. Climate change is a complex problem
- 9:06because there's money tied to it. There's businesses, there's industries
- 9:09that are tied to it that contribute to climate change.
- 9:12Unfortunately, a lot of those businesses have the backs of
- 9:16a lot of politicians who are in power now and will be in power later on.
- 9:20We have two major elections coming up in Canada and North America
- 9:23or in Canada in the US in the US in November 2024 this
- 9:27year There's a huge election for president as well as for
- 9:31Congress people and some senators and then of course in
- 9:34Canada in 2025 we have a big election federal election of
- 9:38who will be the new prime minister or will this that will Trudeau stay
- 9:42prime minister now when you look at what
- 9:45we're looking at in terms of action for these
- 9:48different groups. One party is better than the other in terms of
- 9:52taking action. One party doesn't take action at all. So
- 9:55it really comes down to do you want to see a future where you have seen
- 9:58less change in the environment or do you want to see a future where
- 10:02you're going to see a ton of change in the environment, and it's not
- 10:05going to be good. It's going to be more expensive, more weather-related events,
- 10:09more natural disasters, and a
- 10:13lot of money going towards fixing that. And I don't know how we're all going to pay
- 10:16for that. We're going to get less services so that we can put our tax money towards
- 10:19that. No matter what country you live in, it's going to be bad. It's
- 10:23not going to be good. So the ways that you can help according to
- 10:26this article, you can get involved in climate issues, talk about
- 10:30climate issues, you can support forward-thinking policies, so
- 10:34support the people who want to put forward forward-thinking policies
- 10:38and do your part in transitioning to cleaner tech. such as EVs,
- 10:42solar panels, and whatnot. I even think now they have
- 10:45heat exchangers and coolers. There's geothermal that
- 10:49can work as well. They're expensive. This tech
- 10:53is really expensive. It's very difficult to get if
- 10:56you're not in a position to get that. do what you can, get
- 10:59involved with your government, get involved with non-profit organizations
- 11:03that are working towards changing climate and making
- 11:07changes towards reducing climate change is
- 11:10what I really meant there. But that's really what it comes down to is,
- 11:13you know, if you want to save these sharks, if you want
- 11:17to make sure that we are going to see sharks and other species continue
- 11:20to persist within the environment. Now, we're also not just talking
- 11:24about sharks that sort of, you know, Form aware
- 11:28or have influence over a food web, but
- 11:32you're also looking at you know Organisms that create
- 11:35habitats, you know, some of the most diverse habitats in the
- 11:38world, you know You're gonna have coral reefs. You're gonna have oyster reefs
- 11:42You're going to have mussels and clams and
- 11:46scallops, all that have shells that can form these complex systems,
- 11:50these complex habitats that provide hiding places for fish,
- 11:54that provide food, that clean up the water through
- 11:59filter feeding. There's a lot of benefits in keeping these organisms
- 12:02intact and reducing climate change to do that. The
- 12:06ocean can only take a certain amount of carbon dioxide before it starts to
- 12:09change, and it's already changing. huge spikes
- 12:13in temperature that we haven't seen before. And it continues to get hotter
- 12:16and hotter in that ocean. You can only do it so much where you're going
- 12:20to get a change where you just can't change back. So let's
- 12:23do our part. Let's talk about more climate issues. Let's
- 12:27start to talk about it with our government representatives or
- 12:30future government representatives and become a government representative, especially
- 12:34if you're into changing climate. And I think, you know,
- 12:37just in the previous episode, we talked to Janelle Kelman,
- 12:42who is someone who is very forward-thinking. She's an environmental lawyer.
- 12:45She's also was the mayor of Sausalito City in
- 12:49California. She now sits on the council. She's running for
- 12:52lieutenant governor of California in 2026, where she
- 12:56will have influence over policies and programs that
- 13:00have to do with the environment, including the ocean. This is
- 13:03how you can get in. Lieutenant Governor may not be the spotlight
- 13:07position that you'd want in government, but it's something that she can be most effective
- 13:11at in the background that she has and the
- 13:14motivation that she has to help save our planet, one
- 13:18city at a time, one state at a time. I think that's a valuable lesson.
- 13:22If you want to listen to that episode, you can go back to the last episode, listen to
- 13:25that interview. It was a great interview. She has such great energy, loves
- 13:29the ocean, loves the environment, and she wants to protect it.
- 13:32And I think that's great. That's what we need, more political leaders who
- 13:35do that kind of stuff. And who want to be motivated to
- 13:39do that kind of stuff or who are motivated to do that kind of stuff? So check that out and
- 13:42of course That's it for today's episode if you want to have a conversation about
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- 14:10I want to continue with hearing from you and what you think. Whether
- 14:14you agree with me or don't agree with me, that's fine. I don't really mind.
- 14:18I'd love to just chat with you and hear your thoughts on all these
- 14:21items, especially, you know, sharks being affected by climate change even
- 14:26before they're born. Like that's, that's the crazy part. It's even before they're
- 14:29born. So something that you can chat about, you can hit me up also on
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