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Religious Content Creation With Delmar Dyer | The Christian Reeve Podcast #364 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Christian Reef
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Podcast. Today's guest is a content
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creator. He does like religious content.
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He's hailing all the way from Jamaica.
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His name is Delmar Dyer. How you doing man?
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I'm working. Thanks for having me in issue.
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Oh, it's a pleasure, man. It's a pleasure.
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I think you you might be the second Jamaican I've had on the
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show over the years. Certainly not the first.
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Yeah, second, first, first one was actually the first year of
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the show. I had a Jamaican cook all, all
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the years ago. Yeah, I had a few religious
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people on the show over the years.
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It's always interesting have so we say some opinions.
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But you know, I like to kind of give people a chance to talk as
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much as possible. You know, I like to learn and I,
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I think, I think it was pretty interesting as a concept, being
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a content creator on, on, on religious topics.
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You know, I mean, it's, it's kind of, you know, in many ways
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it's kind of a perfect platform for it.
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But it's, it's, I think it's just interesting because, you
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know, people have always been talking about religion in many
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different ways, but with, you know, the advent of different
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technologies and, and how social media has evolved over the
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years. We've, we've got like AI don't
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know, like a different way of reaching people.
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You know, you can reach more people arguably as well through
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social media and just the Internet in general.
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But before we get into that, let's, let's just sort of see
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you, you know, I want to talk a bit a bit about your, your
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upbringing and, and kind of like how you developed, you know,
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your, your faith and belief in religion and stuff like that.
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So where did it all kind of begin for you?
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Let's start there. All right, so as you guys know,
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I'm from Jamaica and my upbringing will I would describe
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as kind of religious because I was grown into the church.
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My grandmother usually came to the 7th day, my mother to the
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Pentecostal church and Baptist Church.
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But it wasn't until I was 17 that I made a step of faith for
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myself, to want to know God for myself and to understand him for
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myself. And that is when I got baptized.
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And that was back in 2026 years. I was 1717, yeah.
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OK. So that's interesting.
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So you'd been in and around religion most of your sort of
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adolescence, but as you said, you only kind of accepted it at
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that point. So well, what was the reason
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behind that? Was there any particular event
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shift maybe in your perspective? Like, why did you decide to kind
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of make that a part of your life?
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Well, I think based on what was going on in my life internally,
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I always believed there was something bigger than me.
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I always feel that there was this God, this divine force that
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I wanted to have this connection with.
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I don't know. As the years goes on, it's like
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this DB yearning for it. And it wasn't until the pandemic
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came, and that is when that desire intensified.
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But I think it was in high school when I met this person
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with my friend. He, like, invited me to his
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church. Was we, I'm sorry, which was an
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Apostolic Church. And that is where I got baptized
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at. Yeah.
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And just again, walking a little bit through, you know, your
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adolescence, obviously you gave us kind of a breakdown there.
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There's a little bit of a split in your family as far as like
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approaches to religion. You know, Pentecostal is 1.
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And then is that 7th day Adventist?
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Is that is that correct? Yeah, 7th day.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not like too, I don't know.
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I know, I know of these things. I know that like there's like
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little subtle differences and in some cases it's a lot more like
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I know the Pentecostal is yeah, it's it's like a lot of a lot of
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song is involved with it, which I've always, well, they at least
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I don't know, here in the UK it is.
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Maybe it's it's different in Jamaica.
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OK. Would that be, would that be
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right? I don't know.
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What, what, what, what, how? How is it in Jamaica?
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Well, to be honest, I don't know how to explain it because I
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haven't I think the wait. Can you repeat the question
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again? Well, what I was basically
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saying is here in the UK, when you when you hear Pentecostal,
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typically you think it's churches that have, you know,
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they might have like a church band.
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The singing is, is, it's all, it's all like religious songs
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and everything. But it's different from your
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typical church in the UK where people are kind of singing hymns
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and there's no, there's no music.
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There might be like a like an organ or something, but it's
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very, it's, it's kind of dry, to be honest.
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It's, I mean, if I was ever going to go to church, I
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wouldn't go to that. I'd go Pentecostal because
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church bands are good. Just a side note, church bands
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are amazing, like Jesus, especially in the States.
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They've got a lot of really, really good church bands.
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But yeah, no, it's, it's, it's there's a lot of energy, there's
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a lot of singing and just kind of general participation.
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I suppose you could say. I think I think a movie that
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kind of gives you a little bit of an in a look into that.
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It's a little bit different from what it is, but if you've ever
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seen like sister acts, that's kind of like famous movie
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franchise, but in those movies, they kind of touch on that a
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little bit as far as like the singing aspect of things is
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concerned and and the role, I guess it plays in let's say
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religious rituals or just like generally what people do when
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they when they go to a church, I guess.
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But the the question is because when I said that it seemed like
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maybe it might be a bit different in Jamaica.
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So what's your experience with that in?
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Jamaica in Jamaica's the same thing.
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They have choirs, they have bands, they do sing hymns and
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music. So I think it's the same thing.
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Yeah, it's a very same thing. All right.
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I, I did want to kind of touch on this before we kind of talk
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more about sort of your religion and stuff.
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Obviously Jamaica is, is also famous for Rastafarianism.
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Yeah. And I, I did, I did a little bit
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of research on it, but I like to sometimes keep myself a bit open
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so I can kind of hear what my guests perspective on it is.
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As I understand Rastaf. Yeah, yeah.
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So as I understand, Rastafarianism has roots in
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Christianity, but it's, it's not quite that straightforward.
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I guess my my question is like what?
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What are your thoughts on Rastafarianism and what can you
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tell us about that particular religion?
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Well, you know, I was once a Rasta doing them, so I can
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speak. And my father is, yeah, my
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father is a Rasta, so he kinda reads the Bible.
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I think he's a Orthodox Christian as well.
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So his rest of your Anism does imitate some form of
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Christianity when it comes on to keeping the 10 commandments,
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keeping the Sabbath, and keeping some form of the Old Testament
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law. So yeah, they do imitate some
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form of Christianity. It's different for everybody,
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some are spiritualists where some may lean to more towards
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the Christian feat like Orthodox.
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I want to clear something up for good about this that I've heard
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that ISIS something I've heard, so I don't know if it's actually
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true or not. When it comes to Rastafarianism
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being a Rasta and speaking cannabis, is that actually part
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of the religion or is that actually just a cultural thing
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and it just happens that some rusters do that?
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Like what? Where does that actually fit in
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their religion? Well, to be honest now, what do
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you call it? A part of the religion For some
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is a way of life. No, for some people, them two
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for small cannabis because they want to wear some they rather
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not because it probably is a health problem.
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Yeah, it's very much different. I see, when I heard that, I was
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like, I, I didn't believe it. Like, I, I knew, I know it's
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obviously a big part of Jamaican culture, but it's, I was like,
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there's no way that it's part of the religion.
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Like it's that's not true. Come on.
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And it's finally got an answer on that.
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So there you go. We've got an actual Jamaican who
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was a raster. He's given you a definitive
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answer there. So there we go, people.
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So, yeah, walk me through, I suppose religion and
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Christianity in Jamaica, given that you're you're making
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content for, for a global audience.
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So it's, it won't just be for people in Jamaica, it'd be
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people around the world. I imagine when you talk about
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these things, you know, people got different things to say as
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far as their experience, what it's like where they're from.
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I know it's hard to kind of like some other country in this
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sense, but what we feel like religion and Christianity in
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Jamaica, how does it differ from the rest of the world?
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Well, Crescent in Jamaica is very diverse.
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You know, there's so many different churches, there's so
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many different denomination. And how it differ from the rest
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of the world, I want to say different from the rest of our.
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It's practical. The same format.
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Yeah. Apostolic.
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Yeah. Seven Day Adventist.
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Yeah, Pentecostal. Yet the revival is church, so
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it's the same thing. And you asked another question.
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If people have a lot to say about my content, people have to
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say about me on social media. I receive a lot of criticism for
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what I do, for the things I share a lot of times.
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But at the same time, there's people that give praises to me.
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No, like Sir, they give God the praise.
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Like I can see all my content, strengthen the relationship with
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God. Like it makes them want to read
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a Bible more. It makes them want to go deeper
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in their feet. Because some people message me
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on Tiktok, on Instagram and they share all my contact, my
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content, impact their life in a positive way.
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So I guess that's an answer. Before we focus on the positive,
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I want to focus a little on the negative for a second.
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What would you say is the most common kind of criticisms you're
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receiving about your content? The way, the way.
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I'm sorry, man, I don't. I don't want to bring you down.
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I I I can relate. I can't criticize.
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It's OK. It's not a curious question.
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A lot of people, they criticize them for a lot of different
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things, like the way how I choose to say things.
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They mean like the way how I speak.
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They may not like my belief. Like I do speak out against
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keeping the 10 commandments and keeping the Sabbath.
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Like I don't believe as Christians who must keep those
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type of requirement because we are free from the law of Moses,
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because when Christ came, he came to fulfill the law, not to
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make us partakers of it. So I've been criticized a lot in
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those areas, but for the most part, a lot of people should get
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support to me on Instagram and on Tiktok, and it is a really
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good thing for me. So yeah.
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Let's flip it UPS. What's some of the best feedback
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you've received? The positive comments, maybe
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some particular things that have stood out over the years.
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OK, so a lot of people said that like the content technique
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speaks to them in a way that it like what I'm speaking to them,
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it like what's they're going through, like sorry, sorry, what
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about you to say what I'm speaking to them?
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Like they're facing it in their current life.
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So I'm just saying like God is speaking to me.
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Sorry, God is speaking true to me, to them.
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And like the content I'm making is affirming what God has
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already spoken to them. So I guess that's one of them as
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well. And he said my content is kind
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of encouraging as well. So I guess that's some positive
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feedbacks I receive. I mean, it's, it's always good
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to to inspire people and, and try to motivate people.
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I've got very mixed opinions when it comes to religion.
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My argument a lot of the time is this is not the pub problem.
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People are the problem. And what I mean by that is I, I
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think any type of situation where you lay out rules and you
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have people following said rules can be manipulated and is
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manipulated. Yeah.
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And we and we've seen over the years in all different parts of
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the world how religion can be and is used to manipulate
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people. But we've also seen the really
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positive things as far as like how it can completely change
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people's lives, save them from themselves, you know, So I think
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really it, it comes down to like how you receive these things,
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the people that are around you, the people involved in maybe
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your like your local church or your community or whatever the
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case may be. It it, it all really comes down
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to people. And you know, it's interesting
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today, where we're at today, the state of the world right now.
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Let's throw that into the mix. So why, in your opinion, why is
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religious religion sorry, important in 2026?
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Why religion is important? I thought to be asked that
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question. Why?
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Because I mean it serve as a a gateway to God.
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Well, in my case, Christianity in my life has been a pivotal
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moment where my relationship with God has deep in where I
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wanted to know God more and I wanted answers.
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And Christianity has served at that gateway that I received
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those answers. So I guess I can speak from my
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experience. What kind of answers were you
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looking for? Purpose, Purpose.
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That's that's the answer looking for.
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I wanted to see God for purpose because growing up I was a very
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curious person. I believe many things.
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I dwell into atheism, I dwell into many things, and at one
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point I even believed in astrology and divination.
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But God has delivered me from that, thankfully, and He has
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brought me to us a light alone to see the gospel of His truth,
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which is Jesus Christ. And that thing is so because
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what brought me purpose? That's why I'm doing what I'm
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doing. So it's been 6 years.
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Yeah, 6. Years, have you ever?
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Six years, Yeah. Have you ever wavered from that
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belief? Because obviously the thing with
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religion is obviously you're following, you know, set rules.
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You're following whatever it is you particularly believe in.
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And during the hard times, I know particularly in
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Christianity, this is the case. You'll get situations where
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people, let's say you speak to a pastor or a vicar or something
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like that and you ask them like, hey, what do I do?
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I'm dealing with this really tough time.
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Or maybe even you just praying, you know, because I know it can
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be quite a personal thing. How is it that you get through
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those difficult times and, you know, have you wavered?
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Have you struggled maybe sometimes with that belief?
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OK, yes, there's times where I've doubted, there's times when
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I wanted to give up, and there's times when I just wanted to
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throw in the tower. But through all, I think the
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reason my faith remains so strong over the years is just
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that I had this strong faith in God because I've been through
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things in my life that only God could deliver me from it.
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And that has strengthened me to the point that nothing can move
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me and nothing can sway me. So that is the reason why I
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might say it has grown so strong.
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And yeah. How has religion sort of
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affected your day-to-day? You say it's given you purpose.
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That's hey, like I think for many of us, that's what we're
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looking for in life. You know, that's what we're at
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least we're aiming for. But how has it affected like the
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day-to-day? You know, like what does it,
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what does it give you, I guess. Mean negative way.
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No, no, no, no what? It could be negative I suppose,
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but no like the, you know, the day-to-day, the let's think
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about like you before religion and you now.
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How has it affected, say, the way you live your life?
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OK, before Christianity I would say I was confused, I was lost.
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I was looking in all type of direction for the answers.
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As I mentioned before, I usually practice divination and
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numerology and I usually look to these things for the answers.
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No, that's the old me. But then the new me now looks to
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God with a true prayer and with a true being steadfast in the
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faith, and that is where I get the answer from.
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So back then me, I was living a purposeless life.
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Right now, I'm living a purposeful life where I'm
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continually operating my gift and helping other people via
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social media. So Full disclosure, we'll get
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into that by the way, but Full disclosure, I, I believe in
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astrology, divination, these sorts of things, amongst other
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things. I keep myself open.
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My kind of philosophy is keep self open to everything.
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Yeah. It's not to catch you out.
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Don't worry. Don't worry.
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It's nothing like that. I like to keep myself open to
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sort of all possibilities and that includes religions too.
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For me, it's more like I'm just not really willing to follow a
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particular monotheistic religion or, you know, a set of rules.
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I like to kind of keep it open and pick and choose what I
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believe in, right? But that's just me.
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OK. But one thing that I'm getting
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from what you were saying is that you said you you were
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delivered from that. So at some point you saw it as,
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or you were told that those things are negative in some way.
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Could you kind of elaborate on that a little?
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Well, I would say I was told it's more from experience back
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then I was, I was going through a lot of things, man.
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And I feel it, I feel like back then it was more of a spiritual
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issue where I may have, I don't know, open some gateway to some
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forces in my life that, you know, I'm not, I'm not trying to
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force my belief on it, but I, I just.
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Those things back then, I don't really practice them anymore
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because to me it's more of a a stronghold because at one point
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I usually, how would I say no it because it became an idol.
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Every day I would look into these things, trying to find
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purpose in everyday life, in my life, in my future.
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And it caused me to become more worrisome and more anxious.
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It just wasn't the way I wanted to live.
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And that is what transitioned me to wanting to accept Christ even
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more. I don't know.
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That makes sense, but that's the truth.
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No, I. I.
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I get it, I get it. When you say forces, do you mean
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negative energy? Yes, that's what I mean, OK.
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So was it coming? Let's say you were doing these
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things and I don't know, did it attract the wrong sort of people
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in your life or would do the bad luck or like, what do you mean
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when you say that? Well, man, I, I, I started
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having a lot of weird experiences.
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Like for example, growing up, I had a lot of anxiety issues and
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me dwelling in these type of stuff increase it ever more
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because I would becoming more anxious.
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You know, I start, I don't know, I don't know what was the
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problem, but I believe it was connected to that and some very
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other strange experiences. That was roughly 7 years ago,
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but yeah. You get it.
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I suffer from anxiety too, and I know that sometimes when you
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fixate on certain things, it can, it can get to you.
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You know, sometimes I, I've noticed a big thing in my life
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is, is understanding when to let go of things, even if it's
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something that you're desperately trying to, like,
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keep and you're desperately trying to, like, just hang on to
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that thing, but you have to let go.
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And it's terrifying to do that. But yeah, ironically, yeah, it's
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like by doing that, you're actually better off.
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You know the the example I say, yeah, go on, go on.
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I'm sorry for interrupting you. That's, that's, that's my case.
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When I let go of these things, life become much more bitter for
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me. I've become more freer in my
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mind. So that's what I've experienced.
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Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the
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headspace you want to be, isn't it?
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Like they say with emotions, if you don't have a hold of your
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emotions, obviously they control you.
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But I think something that people don't necessarily add to
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that, which is a really important point, is explaining
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what exactly that looks like. Now, of course, we all
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experience emotions. We know how we can fly off the
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handle if we're angry, if we're depressed, whatever.
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But what does that look like long term?
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What does that look like day-to-day?
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Well, I would argue it's kind of a feeling of clouding your mind.
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It's like a feeling of paralysis.
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It's like, like a mental block almost like you're trapped.
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And then obviously when you get out of that space, it's just
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freeing, you know? Yeah.
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That's what it's like. I don't know, there's something,
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there's something to it. Let's, OK, let's delve into
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content creation because I think this is interesting.
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This is something that I've seen pick up a lot in recent years, a
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lot of religious content creators.
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And I got to say, given everything that's happened over
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the last six years, because this is, let's face it, this has been
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a crazy, crazy decade, Surreal. I think would be fair to say in
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many ways, it feels like before the COVID times and after the
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COVID times, it's like a, it's almost like a biblical moment in
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time in history. You know what I'm saying?
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Like it's life actually day-to-day felt different to how
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it feels now. Very much is like I should.
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Yeah, it's really weird. So I can't help but think that
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this influx of religious content creators on social media is a
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direct response to that because a lot of people are struggling
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now and looking for answers, right?
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And you know, his his thing right with me and religion.
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I don't think I'll ever be a follower of any particular
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religion. I respect religion.
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I think it's always, I think something that people often
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forget is that, you know, society is built on religion.
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When you look at like laws that comes from religions, I don't
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think it's, it's a good idea to ever like mock religion or, or
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just, you know, dismiss it. But I do think everyone should
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keep an open mind about things and, and make decisions for
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themselves. I think that's really the key.
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You know, I remember years ago, I used to have a friend who who
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converted to a particular religion and I was like, I
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support you, do what you want to do.
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The only thing I will add is keep your mind open and question
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everything. Never, never close your mind off
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to any possibilities. That was the only thing I said
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to him. And unfortunately, he changed in
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a way where I was like, OK, I can't really support this, but
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it had nothing to do with his religion.
25:51
There was like small little aspects of it that did.
25:53
But really it was him changing his mindset from the person he
25:59
was before and the person he was afterwards.
26:02
And again, you know, had nothing to do with his habits either,
26:06
you know, like he quit drinking. I was like, great, that's good
26:08
for you. That's, you know, it's not a bad
26:09
thing, you know? But it was more like things like
26:13
his opinions on women that I couldn't get behind or his
26:17
opinions on, I don't know, just just like everyday things that I
26:21
just couldn't really connect with.
26:23
And, you know, we never had a big argument.
26:25
We just kind of went our separate ways kind of thing.
26:29
But I do look at that and then I look at people everyday that I
26:33
meet. And I think right now people are
26:36
looking for guidance more so than ever.
26:40
When you look at what COVID actually did, was it put more
26:44
and more and more and more people online than ever before?
26:49
And I think many people lost themselves in the Internet in a
26:54
way that's not healthy. And also, you know, you're
26:58
always, you're hearing increasing rates of depression,
27:00
mental health illnesses, stress, anxiety, the economy's terrible.
27:05
You know, there's, there's so many wars around the world.
27:08
There's, there's so much going on right now.
27:11
It's almost an overload. So I, I'm getting to a point.
27:15
So inevitably you're going to have more, more and more people
27:20
talking about religion and say, well, hey, look, I have answers.
27:23
Have you considered this? Here's what I think, etcetera.
27:28
So my question to you is kind of twofold.
27:33
The first part of it is sort of to address that, you know, the,
27:36
the, the influx of content creators.
27:39
And then the second part of the question is why did you decide
27:45
to become a religious content? OK, so why there's a influx of
27:52
real just content creators pertainly, particularly
27:55
Christian content creators? I think it arise from the need
27:59
of wanting to know God more because when the pandemic hit, a
28:04
lot of things slowed down, a lot of industries collapse and a lot
28:09
of a lot of things started to happen and a lot of people had
28:13
to slow down and look internally within themselves.
28:17
They just realize, man, what time do you my life.
28:22
There must be something bigger to explain all of this.
28:25
And that's why no why I became a content creator.
28:32
I think it was divinely inspired by God.
28:36
I think how can I explain this? I think it was like last year, I
28:41
miss some people online. And we were talking online and
28:46
Google Meet. No, it wasn't Google Meet.
28:48
It was mostly Zoom. And I was inspired by a friend
28:53
to make content. And when I started to make
28:57
content, I realized people love what I do when they wanted to
29:01
hear the word of God more. And as time passed on, I grew
29:05
even more. And yeah, that's it, man.
29:09
That's that's really. What are you finding that you
29:13
tend to focus on more content wise and and what what do people
29:17
ask you about the most? OK, what I focus on the most, I
29:20
focus on mostly motivational content and scriptural content.
29:26
Like I may talk about something in my daily life that I may
29:30
face, and I may cite a scripture from it, and it may relate to
29:35
someone in their heart, in their personal life.
29:40
Yeah, that's really. OK, and and what what are people
29:43
asking you about? You know what, what, because I
29:46
know say on Tiktok, actually you can get it on all social media
29:49
now I've seen it on YouTube, although the YouTube 1 is a bit
29:52
rubbish. With Tiktok, you can ask someone
29:56
a question, say in the comments section and then you can do a
29:59
video response to that, right? So, OK, do you do video
30:05
responses? Yeah, do do you do that and and
30:07
what and what people like asking you a lot.
30:10
Like one time, like somebody asked me the other day why my
30:14
feet is so strong and I made a video over a minute explaining
30:18
why that is. From experiences that I've went
30:21
through, that is why some people ask me a lot of things.
30:25
They may share their life story, their struggles, and they may
30:29
ask me to pray for them, our sheer word of encouragement with
30:33
them. And I do, I really do.
30:35
I do it out of love because I know at one point I was in that
30:39
position as I I've. Got some challenging questions
30:42
for you? You ready?
30:44
Well, I'll try to because I'm kind of.
30:47
Hey, don't worry man, there's nothing to worry about.
30:49
It's a bit of fun because I don't even know how to answer
30:51
this to be honest. I could have a jab at it, but
30:54
who is religion not for? Who should avoid it?
30:58
And it's really, I don't know, man, I don't.
31:00
Fair enough. I, I don't know to answer that
31:02
question. I mean the reason is not for the
31:05
person like someone who I would say who is not curious, like you
31:10
don't care, you just want to live life and you don't really
31:13
care about none of that. So I guess religion is not for
31:16
you. I guess that's mines.
31:17
I mean, I suppose you could argue though in in some ways it,
31:21
it provides a lifestyle, does it not, you know, framework for
31:25
living, maybe you know. Yeah, it was, it provides a
31:27
lifestyle, it may changes one way of thinking the way how they
31:32
live and it may even impact the the decision they make on a
31:36
day-to-day basis. So I guess that's an aspect of
31:38
it, yeah. I mean, I remember years ago, I
31:41
saw one of those clips. It's like a street interview and
31:44
there was this guy steps out of a car.
31:46
He's is, is this like tall black guy.
31:49
He's probably like 6263, I think it was in the states somewhere.
31:52
And he looks amazing. Like he's he's got one of those
31:55
like beautiful grey kind of suits.
31:58
I don't know. He just he looked a billion
32:00
bucks and he gets out the car and this immediately a guy
32:03
shoves a microphone in his face, which I just an aside there.
32:07
I always think it's a bit weird the the times we're living in
32:10
where random people just come up to you on the street with a
32:12
microphone and it's just like. Camera in your face.
32:16
Yeah, it's just, it's just weird man.
32:19
But anyway, he gets out of the car and the guy asks him about
32:24
his, you know, his work. Obviously he's in an amazing car
32:27
and stuff. He's like, tell me about, you
32:31
know, your work and, and a bit about you.
32:34
And basically in a nutshell, what he says is he's a religious
32:38
man and every decision he's ever made from a business
32:43
perspective, he's looked into scripture and kind of seen like,
32:48
does this align with scripture? And if it does, he'll do it.
32:52
Which I was like, I just blew my mind.
32:54
I was like, OK, I mean, it's, it kind of makes sense.
32:59
Do you know what I mean? Like in, in a sense, I just had
33:03
a guest on recently who is working on a book about, I think
33:09
it's like, it's like finances and just being successful with
33:14
finance and God. And he's like, oh, I'm a bit
33:17
concerned because it's, it's a bit controversial, but it's also
33:22
these are my thoughts. This is my opinions kind of
33:24
thing. And I just thought like, that's
33:25
interesting. Like applying these, these two
33:27
things that you might not always apply to one another.
33:33
But to me, to me, it kind of makes sense because religion,
33:37
like I said, is it is a framework, it's a set of rules
33:39
to live by. I think if, if your life is in
33:43
chaos, it's a great way to bring order to that.
33:48
Like, that's why I think let's say like the 12 step program
33:52
for, for Alcoholics is, is fantastic because it's like, OK,
33:55
here's the thing you can work on.
33:57
It'll keep you busy, it'll keep your, you focused, organized.
34:02
And it's, and it's powerful. You know, it's whether or not
34:05
you believe in religion is, it's something you can focus your
34:08
mind onto and, and achieve within that time frame.
34:11
And great here if you've, if you become religious as a result,
34:15
even better. You've got something you can
34:16
continue with and build a new life around.
34:19
You know, and I think these are the things I like to think about
34:24
when it comes to religion. And when I think about my
34:28
religious friends I've had over the years, these are the sorts
34:30
of things they tend to talk about.
34:35
But you know, I also see the other side preaching sometimes
34:40
people getting a bit over the top with it, almost aggressive
34:43
with it. There again, like I said
34:47
earlier, it's all about people. People decide how far they take
34:51
things and that's always interesting to me.
34:55
One thing I wanted to ask is, is have you experienced a lot of
34:58
that, You know, like kind of extreme opinions or maybe people
35:02
around you that maybe were religious, but they weren't,
35:06
let's say, like a positive influence in some way, if you
35:09
hear what I'm saying? You mean like people like the
35:16
But what exactly are asking? Like are people around
35:19
influencing a negative bar positive?
35:22
Have there been negative people say around like let's say your
35:27
local church or local town, or because like I can say, I live
35:33
in Manchester here in the UK, right?
35:35
There's a lot of religious people here.
35:37
There's, there's Christians, there's Jews, there's Muslims
35:40
and there's a particular St. that you can walk down.
35:44
It's retail. It's really weird actually,
35:47
it's, I guess people go there because it's kind of like the
35:50
most middle point of the, the city.
35:52
But you get preachers all the way down this row of shops with
35:58
a shopping centre and everything.
35:59
You get preachers in the, in the middle of the street.
36:02
And it makes sense because that's the most footfall, right?
36:06
And sometimes, you know, I'll kind of walk past, I might take
36:09
an earphone out and listen for a little bit and then carry on.
36:12
Other times if it's shouting, screaming, I, I try to just run
36:16
away. But it, well, it depends.
36:20
Yeah, it depends. I remember one time I had a,
36:22
there was a Muslim guy that caught me on a, on a night one
36:25
time. And I must have had a good hour
36:26
long conversation with him. And, and it was, it was good
36:30
man. I gave him the kind of preface
36:33
that I always give people, which is you're not going to convert
36:36
me, but I'm open. Let's talk.
36:38
I'm willing to hear what you have to say because I think
36:43
that's important to do that. It's something from time to
36:46
time, you know, it's change your mind, you know, see, see where,
36:49
where your head is at at any one time.
36:52
Now, the, the flip side of that is unfortunately, not all those
36:55
conversations are positive. Sometimes people take things to
37:00
the extreme. They go a bit too far with
37:02
things. I'll give you an example.
37:05
When I was a kid, I remember walking around our local town
37:09
centre and there was a guy, I must have been like 3-4 years
37:13
old and there was a guy preaching and screaming at
37:20
everyone. Just everyone was apparently a
37:22
Sinner. Everyone is going to hell.
37:26
And it was like, man, it's just me with my mum.
37:29
We're like going shopping, man. Like what, what did we do wrong?
37:34
You know, it's like what? And it's, it's, it's kind of
37:37
when people take things too fast.
37:39
I, I guess I wanted to ask you a little bit about that.
37:40
Like have you experienced that? How will you deal with that?
37:46
Well, yeah, I've experienced that.
37:47
I take, I know what I feel. I know the fear mongering feel.
37:52
I experienced that a lot growing up as that child.
37:54
But no, as a young adult, it doesn't really affect me that
37:58
much because I see things a lot differently from mainstream
38:02
Christianity. Because I don't believe what?
38:07
What should I say? I don't believe God is gonna
38:11
condemn one to hell if they don't believe.
38:15
I think the gospel should be preached in a scary type of way,
38:20
like telling someone that if they don't receive Jesus Christ
38:24
they're gonna burn hell forever. No, it should be preached in
38:28
love and if the person rejects it then it's OK, you just move
38:32
on. That's I've.
38:34
Always I agree with you. I think the way in which you
38:39
relay a message is everything. Like I'm a I'm a big fan of
38:43
storytelling. I've always prided myself on
38:47
becoming better as a storyteller and and listening to great
38:51
storytellers. And if you look at religion in
38:55
its best form, it is storytelling.
38:57
Human beings love stories. They love storytelling.
39:00
If you're a good storyteller, they will listen to anything you
39:03
have to say. Like, I could be reading, I
39:07
don't know, like a catalog. And I could make it interesting
39:12
if I focus on how I read the catalog.
39:16
You know, it's, it's all about how you say things.
39:21
And if you take like the Bible as an example, there's, there's
39:24
loads and loads of stories in there that if you would tell
39:26
them in the right way, you could interest people, maybe even
39:30
people that aren't religious. You know, is, you know, when,
39:35
when I was at school, I remember there were, I went to kind of,
39:39
it was like a primary school that had a bit of a religious
39:42
hangover. It wasn't religious, but it, you
39:44
know, there was religious stuff there probably from like years
39:47
prior. And, you know, every now and
39:50
again, one of the teachers would, you know, tell us a story
39:54
from the Bible or fable or something like that.
39:57
And it sometimes it'd be really, really interesting.
40:00
And I think a lot of it came down to how that teacher went
40:03
about that, you know, so there's, there's definitely
40:06
something there. It's also why I.
40:09
Think make a point about that I'm so sorry for interrupting I
40:13
see you actually make a good point about that it really
40:16
depends on how you relate this to to someone because you may
40:20
not know what you've experienced experienced in your life with a
40:23
dramatic so yeah, be very careful when you speak to
40:26
someone in a certain. Yeah, I mean, just going back to
40:30
what we were saying before, I've always found that crazy as a
40:33
concept when people try to sort of demonize people with with
40:38
religion. I've heard this term in the
40:41
States over the years. I want to get your opinion on
40:44
this. Sometimes you hear people say,
40:48
oh, I'm God fearing. I'm a God fearing Christian.
40:52
And I always found that kind of weird as a concept.
40:55
I was like, OK, this is supposed to be a positive thing, you
40:59
know, arguably a very personal thing for people.
41:03
You know, for some people, it's something they want to share
41:05
with their community. Other people want to keep it a
41:08
very personal intimate relationship, but they don't
41:13
want to involve other people right now.
41:18
When you go about things with this kind of you have to fear
41:24
God. You must be fearful at all
41:26
times. I'm like how, how, how come the
41:29
person live in because we, you know, we both suffer from
41:32
anxiety. Like how, how can you live in
41:34
that constant state of anxiety of like fear, like am I making
41:38
the right decisions? What if I go like, what if this
41:41
leads me to go to hell? Like I that would be stress to
41:45
me man. It's scary.
41:48
It really does sound scary, but at the same time, I've been the
41:53
term God fearing mean having reverend respect.
41:57
So the way you've experienced growing up, this idea that if
42:01
you, if you're not living a God fearing life, then every
42:04
decision you make is wrong and they're going to burn a hell for
42:08
well, I just want to say something.
42:10
No, what I believe in is that, you know, as a child of God
42:17
being God, fear mean having a reverence for the Lord.
42:20
And it doesn't matter whether is good or bad decision.
42:24
It all plays out in God's divine story in your life.
42:29
So we don't need to fear whether we're going to do this or do
42:32
that or whether we're going to go down this part.
42:35
No, the Christian life is not to make us stress, is to make us
42:40
learn more on God and our faith. And by having faith, we rest
42:44
knowing that God is leading our part.
42:46
So that's just my take on that. I don't know that makes sense,
42:49
but that's why I view. What are the worst parts of
42:52
religious life? OK, the worst part of room just
42:56
like to go. Straight into it I.
43:02
Think that's the worst part? No, but then I face a lot of
43:07
these things where maybe by thought I did this, then I'm
43:12
going to face a certain outcome. And if I said this and behaving
43:16
this way then somehow God is going to abandon me.
43:20
As the years progress, I realized that this was not true.
43:24
As I started to read my Bible and to do my research myself and
43:28
to pray, I started to deviate from certain beliefs system and
43:33
certain doctrine because I realized it was damaging to the
43:36
mind. Yeah.
43:40
And the flip question what are the best parts of religious
43:43
life? The best part?
43:46
The best part is purposefulness, fate, being positive and
43:53
optimistic towards the future. I think that's one of the best
43:57
part towards it. That's what I would say.
43:59
The Christian life is fun. What has creating religious
44:03
content taught you? OK, what creating religious
44:07
content taught me is that people need God like me making content
44:12
for a year now, people commenting on my post, people
44:17
like in sharing and even region talk, reaching out to me
44:20
personally, You know, you kind of highlight more one thing.
44:24
There's a there's an increase of desire desire.
44:28
There's an increase in the desire to know God more in the
44:31
human population. And and I think it's due to the
44:35
ongoing event that's going on where, where there's war,
44:39
famines and all these things. And it is really pushing people
44:45
to seek deeper shooting thing. But what do I gain from this?
44:50
To be honest, I don't gain anything monitored from it.
44:54
But I can say doing this has brought me a lot of joy, peace,
44:59
you know, and gladness because I realized what I'm doing is
45:01
actually helping people. And it's not people own in
45:04
Jamaica, it's people worldwide. If you did earn money from it,
45:09
would you accept that money? Like to donation or to branding
45:15
donation? Any any anything.
45:18
If someone wants to donate to me tomorrow, you know, would gladly
45:22
receive it if the person is doing it from a pure heart, you
45:27
know, because if someone wants to help me financially, I'm not
45:29
going to reject. Would you can I word this?
45:34
Is there not like a maybe a moral issue there because you're
45:39
you're talking about religion, someone donates to you or you
45:42
you're earning money from religious content and you're
45:47
accepting it and it's personal gain.
45:50
Would there be an issue there? Well, in my case, I don't see a
45:56
moral issue in what I'm doing because I'm not doing it for any
46:01
pretenseful reasons. I'm not doing it to become
46:05
famous. I'm not doing it because I want
46:07
something from somebody. I'm doing it because they want
46:11
to help. No, the financial part of it.
46:15
If people want to donate to me, I would gladly.
46:20
I don't really see there's a more issue.
46:22
Don't want to receive donation? I the only reason I ask is
46:24
obviously, you know, there's every possibility it could, as
46:28
the kids say, pop off and go well, and you know, who knows,
46:33
you might. Yeah, I've, I've seen successful
46:35
religious content creators and they do get asked about this
46:37
sometimes. They're like, shouldn't you give
46:39
all the money to charity, to the church, whatever.
46:44
And I can see the moral quandary as as they say.
46:51
Like what do you mean by that? Well, see, so it's it's you're,
46:56
you're promoting this thing, this religious content.
47:00
Obviously, like you said, it's about it's, there's nothing,
47:03
it's, it's transparent, nothing's being hidden.
47:05
But then you earning from that and how you choose to use that
47:11
money. That could be under a microscope
47:13
sort of thing. I just wondered if you'd ever
47:16
thought about this. Well, yeah, because I realize
47:21
being a Christian content creator, criticize it very
47:24
heavily. Like they may criticize it for
47:27
the way how you live. And when you say money, like if
47:31
I was to receive money like from somebody, you know, and people
47:35
are going to watch me for how I use the money, I've been
47:38
criticized. But for me it would be very
47:43
helpful and I would use the funds to help other people as
47:46
well. So I don't know.
47:48
It's that old expression, they always say.
47:49
I get this from friends sometimes.
47:51
Pay it forward. That's what they always say.
47:55
All right, here's a crazy 1. You ready?
48:00
All right, If Jesus were alive today, would he be a content
48:04
creator? Of course he would, because all
48:08
right, we know. We know.
48:10
That's on. I know that's not a bit odd, but
48:13
I think it would he would be a content creator because if you
48:16
think about it, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, you can
48:20
reach so many people by the click of a funny on your.
48:25
You can reach millions of people and he can share good news with
48:28
them in a positive way. So I think yes, he would.
48:32
He's a very. I would.
48:35
I wonder how successful he'd be. It makes me.
48:38
I don't know. Have you ever watched Family
48:39
Guy? It's a bit of a crazy I.
48:41
Usually I enjoy the watching any more clips on it on YouTube?
48:44
Yeah, I don't want you you. It's a bit crazy.
48:48
There was an episode years ago where they kind of like didn't
48:53
explore this exactly, but it was like, if Jesus came back, like
48:57
what would happen kind of thing, like, you know, resurrected all
48:59
that. And they cut the, the, the story
49:03
they essentially told is that initially he would be humble and
49:07
then he'd fall in with the wrong people and become a bit
49:10
egotistical and lose himself and eventually have to be brought
49:13
back by Peter and sort of just go back on the straight and
49:17
narrow again. And it's interesting.
49:19
I would wonder how he would cope with the modern day because I, I
49:27
feel like it'd be crazy terrain. Like, OK, let's say it happened.
49:31
Let's say tomorrow he just came, came back to life, right?
49:34
This is resurrected and he, you know, he makes, he makes some
49:38
content about it. He's like, hello, I've returned
49:41
here I am now. Loads of people are going to be
49:44
like, oh, that's AI. That'd be the first thing.
49:51
The other contingent of people would be like, that's not really
49:55
him. That's an imposter.
49:56
Who's this guy? And then you'd have people that
50:00
actually believe it and are like, Oh my God, this, oh, this
50:02
is amazing. It's, you know, and I feel like
50:09
in this current age and time that we live in, even if it was
50:13
100% legit, this is the real deal.
50:15
Come back to life. It's it's Jesus Christ.
50:18
You know, there would still be people that would be like, Nope,
50:25
lies, don't believe it, fake news, all that.
50:29
Even if you see like The Walking on water stuff and you know, all
50:33
of that because like, I'm not a religious person.
50:36
But if I saw that, I'd be pretty like spooked.
50:39
I'd be like, Oh my God. I'd, I'm not saying I'd become
50:42
an overnight believer or whatever, but I would look at it
50:44
and I'd be like, yeah, it's pretty hard to fake that.
50:48
It's one of them. I just wonder.
50:55
I don't think I've lost the plot now.
50:57
Let's move it forward. What has religion taught you
51:01
about life? What has religion taught me
51:03
about I don't know how to put being a Christian as thought
51:12
this world as I would put it is very it's very much different.
51:18
It is morally evil and as time goes on you start to see
51:25
manifest even more. You know where what is good
51:30
becomes bad and what is bad becomes good.
51:33
It has shown me being a child of God.
51:39
This world really does need Jesus in this current age.
51:44
It's really drifting more Into Darkness when I mean darkness.
51:50
A lot of things that we, a lot of things in our current time
51:54
that let me say 100 years ago would be considered immoral.
52:00
It's considered normal, no. So that's what.
52:04
I hate what you're saying. There's a lot.
52:06
There's a lot that I agree on. Like, for instance, I think how
52:10
sexualized society has become is kind of alarming.
52:14
It's not to say that it's a bad thing, like talking about
52:20
things. I don't, I don't think the the
52:22
reverse is normal either. Like just sense complete
52:25
censorship to the point where you don't talk about I think
52:28
that's insanity. But when I walk down the street
52:31
and I see billboards and, you know, the people are completely
52:35
naked or close to being naked or music videos like that or you
52:42
know, like Olympic ceremony stuff like that.
52:45
I'm like, kids are going to see this, children will see this and
52:51
it's just in everyday society. And I don't know if it's my age,
52:55
you know, I'm in my 30s now. In years to come, I might become
52:59
a dad. So maybe I don't, Maybe I'm just
53:00
looking at it from like that perspective, but I don't, I was
53:05
never really a fan of of that years ago.
53:07
It always just kind of used to make me feel a bit uncomfortable
53:10
because it's just feels like it's too much.
53:14
And the argument is always or sex cells.
53:17
That's why it's, you know, it's it always will.
53:20
And yeah, that's true. But I feel as as human beings,
53:25
we always take everything to the extreme, no matter what it is.
53:30
We always take it to the extreme.
53:32
And with what you were saying, I think there's some really valid
53:36
arguments there that like we got to do a lot of introspection, I
53:39
think, and look at like how society is and instead of
53:43
fighting each other, like work together to try and figure it
53:46
out, like, well, how can we maybe dial things back or, or
53:49
how can we improve things? So my question to you is, OK,
53:53
given that opinion, how do you think we can we can improve
53:56
things? What?
53:57
What could we do differently to kind of give future generations
54:02
a chance? Well, I mean, if you want to fix
54:07
the word problem, I mean collectively and individually,
54:11
we need to look within ourself and wondering if if what we're
54:18
like these things, we're sexuality like certain things
54:25
I've been showing like perversionality.
54:30
We need to come together as a people collectively, put a stop
54:34
to it and individually I'm getting away, I'm getting A and
54:40
individually we need to look within our own lives and like we
54:43
need to clean up our like we need honestly hold on for what
54:51
kind. Of pain always, man.
54:52
You're doing what you're doing good, doing good.
54:55
You're going to edit This sort already does go.
54:56
OK, I like to keep these things in just because it's real.
55:00
I rarely cut things out unless someone feels uncomfortable or
55:05
someone, there's been a few times when I've had to cut
55:07
things out where someone said some just crazy stuff and I'm
55:10
like whoa. I normally let them know that
55:15
I'm like, whoa, but but now you're good, man.
55:20
I look in the middle a lot. I'm missing in this interview.
55:22
That's all. I don't think so.
55:25
I, I, I think for those, obviously this is first time
55:30
you've been interviewed, is that right?
55:32
Yes, I think you're doing very well.
55:36
You know, I mean, don't forgot, I've interviewed a lot of people
55:40
over the years and I've interviewed people where you
55:43
could tell that maybe they're not comfortable talking or
55:47
they're more introverted. And at the end of the day, you
55:51
know, it's, it's never easy talking about things for the
55:55
first time on mediums like this. You know, when I started making
56:00
content, I had no idea how to talk in front of a camera.
56:07
You know, I tried everything and I just everything kind of felt
56:11
fake or just kind of inauthentic or weird somehow.
56:17
But I kept at it and I kept doing it.
56:20
And over time, you know, you don't even think about it.
56:22
Like, I, you know, see the cameras there, but I don't
56:24
really think about it. And that just comes through just
56:29
doing something again and again and again and again to the point
56:32
where you get comfortable in your own skin and you keep
56:35
going. And I'm sure you've experienced
56:37
that with your content creation journey so far.
56:40
I have. There you go.
56:42
And podcasts is no different, man.
56:45
I know. Obviously the difference here is
56:47
that in power dynamic, I hold the power as the interviewer,
56:51
right? And that's a very, it's a
56:54
precarious situation to be in. Like just the other day I was, I
56:58
was watching it was like bad interviews with my with my
57:03
friends and we were just looking at them and going like, this is
57:05
ridiculous. Why would you ever ask them
57:07
that? Why would you put that person in
57:09
that position? There's been people who've said
57:12
to me, Christian, you know, your podcast would do so well if
57:16
you'd just be controversial, if you'd just ask people
57:19
controversial stuff. And I'm like, first of all, I'm
57:22
not interested in that. Just feels like, you know,
57:26
there's an I want to focus on the positives.
57:28
I don't want to focus on, I think there's plenty of negative
57:30
stuff out there. You want to see the negatives,
57:33
go outside, turn on your TV, you'll see it.
57:36
It's everywhere. I want to focus on the
57:39
positives. But also, I've never really felt
57:42
it's very professional to to make your guests feel
57:45
uncomfortable or to catch them out or, you know, I just feel
57:50
like that's really low behaviour.
57:53
And anytime I've ever seen someone get up and leave an
57:57
interview or get a bit annoyed or a question, I'm like, yeah,
58:01
you know, the interviewers should know better because
58:03
they're the one in in control in that situation.
58:07
But yeah, I digress. You do make a point, and it's
58:12
all. Stabbed.
58:15
I try not to too much. OK, should I continue?
58:19
No, no. Do you want me?
58:22
To of course man, if you're comfortable.
58:24
OK, thank you for making me feel comfortable.
58:27
Yeah, I've, I feel this a lot where, you know, sometime I may
58:32
freeze up a bit when I'm on camera.
58:33
But you do make a point. I should continue to press
58:37
forward. Now, to answer your question,
58:40
what you asked previous, what I should say collectively as a
58:44
people, you know, we should come together and put us up to these
58:47
things. You know, to put an end things
58:50
be normalized like per version in the you know, and
58:55
individually in our personal life, we need we need to
59:00
separate ourself from what is perverted and just align ourself
59:04
with what is truthful and what something that you want your
59:08
children and you yourself to grow, you know, in an
59:11
environment to be acceptable. So that's that's my aunt.
59:17
So thank you. All right, let's have some fun
59:21
with the final few questions. Questions I ask every guest.
59:25
There we go. What's the worst advice you've
59:27
ever received? OK, what's the worst advice?
59:31
I receive a lot of bad advice. You see how many people say that
59:36
as well? Every time I ask this question,
59:38
they're like, well, there's been a lot.
59:41
OK, I can I can tell you one right now when it comes under
59:45
content creation, you know, some people message me.
59:48
Well, I'm not slandering them, are gasping about them, but I'm
59:52
telling you what I've experienced.
59:53
They say if you're just if you just behave in this way and
59:56
speak this way, then you probably will catch people
59:59
attention. But I look within myself.
1:00:02
Am I doing this because I'm desperate for attention or I'm
1:00:06
just looking for? I just completely ignore that
1:00:09
advice and continue being authentic and continue just
1:00:13
being really my content. I don't fake it.
1:00:16
Just as you said before. I just, yeah, I just can't
1:00:19
continue doing that's. I guess that's that's what.
1:00:23
I've and that's, that's the thing that will actually help
1:00:27
you stand out and will work to serve you as well.
1:00:30
That's the thing. What's the best advice you've
1:00:34
ever received? Well, the best advice I ever I
1:00:40
would is to I would say to see, I think looking back at my life
1:00:50
for my for myself. The best advice someone ever
1:00:56
told me was seeker to pray to God and ask him for answers
1:01:04
because if I'm being real, God has been very good to me and it
1:01:10
has been the the cornerstone. I receive other good advice, but
1:01:17
this is something that I wanted. Them Well man, you done well.
1:01:25
I don't know, I should have said that still.
1:01:27
But that's not the only good of advice I've I've received as
1:01:30
well. I received plenty of advice like
1:01:32
stay in school, you know, study how you know go this.
1:01:38
I received many good advice like a good advice I receive is to
1:01:42
start counting which I and I've grown over what over 18,004?
1:01:51
Which? You look back at his, his other,
1:01:55
because if you think about it, you know the world needs people
1:01:59
like me. They needs voices like me that
1:02:01
will that's willing to speak up. And The thing is, you know, I'm
1:02:05
a very shy. I'm very shy.
1:02:08
I don't want to assure myself. I think you're doing a great job
1:02:10
man. What's the biggest life lesson
1:02:13
you've learned so far? The biggest life lesson I've
1:02:16
learned is that life can be very harsh.
1:02:20
You know people will see you go through the worst days in their
1:02:23
life. They will not stop to help you.
1:02:26
They don't care. They will just continue walking
1:02:31
and that that show me one thing that this world is very is very
1:02:35
unloving. It's not really kind that show
1:02:38
me how reality is in that's why I'm not I'm not really too too
1:02:45
trusting with anybody to share information with them because I
1:02:50
realize all real. I will say to that though, there
1:02:54
are the few people the exceptions to the rule.
1:02:58
So while I for the most part, I agree with you there, I've had a
1:03:03
lot of experiences like that. I literally said that earlier
1:03:06
today to some friends that, you know, actually it was my partner
1:03:11
that I said it to. I said when everything's going
1:03:14
well, everyone wants to be your friend.
1:03:17
When when things are going badly, it's like you're dead to
1:03:22
the world. But.
1:03:25
I mean, I've experienced that I went to sometimes in my life
1:03:29
where people just completely overlooked me and it and
1:03:33
sometime it just, it just makes me feel lonely at times because
1:03:38
there's times where I just want to be at knowledge.
1:03:41
I'm sure there's a few people though, in your life where that,
1:03:45
you know, when you're at your lowest, they're there and they
1:03:47
care, right? Right.
1:03:49
And for those people who might not have that in their life
1:03:52
right now, it will come. And when you find those people,
1:03:56
hold on to those people type cherish those people because
1:03:59
they are the exception to the rule and they are proof that a
1:04:04
life is worth living, B. That people can be loving and
1:04:11
selfless and caring and that there is a reason to believe in
1:04:16
the human spirit, in kindness, in happiness.
1:04:19
I mean, you know, it's why sometimes you see online like
1:04:24
things like hope corps trending and there's, there's good people
1:04:28
out there doing good things every single day, caring,
1:04:31
sometimes even for just random strangers.
1:04:33
You know, it's a, it's a mindset.
1:04:37
And however difficult life becomes, however, however the
1:04:42
world changes, there will always be good people that exist within
1:04:47
it and you just have to find them.
1:04:51
Yeah, you're right about that. They are good people.
1:04:54
Like there's that show Gen. whether it's in my inner circle
1:05:01
or even complete strangers and social media, there's people
1:05:06
that reach out to me and say the most kindest thing to me and say
1:05:11
I have impacted their lives now positively.
1:05:14
Some call me and some say my message as you know done them
1:05:20
very good so it really mean it means a lot to me.
1:05:25
Final question for you today, Delma.
1:05:28
Do you have any upcoming projects or final thoughts that
1:05:31
you'd like to share with our listeners?
1:05:35
I don't mean upcoming projects. My final thought for today.
1:05:41
You know, in this crazy world we're living, you know, it's
1:05:44
obvious the world is going through some, a lot of people
1:05:50
are not prepared. I will see.
1:05:55
Get to know God for yourself. You know how you know?
1:06:01
Look within yourself, you know, and just sit down and reflect
1:06:04
because things are not gonna be same after after all this, after
1:06:11
all the events are not taking place, things are really gonna
1:06:14
change. And it's debatable what there is
1:06:17
for the the good or the bad. We can do is our best really
1:06:21
keep going, keep being the best that we possibly can be.
1:06:27
You know, it's like I people say that to me sometimes, like why
1:06:30
don't you focus on all the terrible things in the world?
1:06:33
Why don't you care? And I'm like, I do care.
1:06:34
I just choose not to make that my main focal point in every
1:06:38
single day because you would drive yourself nuts.
1:06:42
You know, you're right. All we can do is within our
1:06:46
sphere of influence is make sure that all of our actions are
1:06:49
positive ones and affect those around us in a positive way.
1:06:53
That's all we realistically can do.
1:06:55
You know all, all I was going to say is, is it's that's, that can
1:07:04
lead to the ripple effect. If you think about like, what
1:07:09
was it? They call it 6° of separation
1:07:12
where if you track far enough, you could like, you could find
1:07:15
that you're connected to like big powerful people.
1:07:18
But it all starts kind of like a domino effect.
1:07:21
And I always think about that, like how OK, I was nice to this
1:07:26
person today and then that person saw these people and then
1:07:30
was nice to those people today because they're in a good mood
1:07:33
and so on and so on and so on. And it's like, I know it sounds
1:07:35
crazy, but like that small action that you made could lead
1:07:39
to influencing others who then influence others, who then
1:07:43
influence people who are change makers in some capacities.
1:07:47
So like your actions, however small, might have profound
1:07:52
impact on the rest of the world because of the ripple effect
1:07:57
that's. Very much, yeah.
1:07:59
That's. Yeah.
1:08:02
Anyway, I think about it, you know what we're doing?
1:08:05
Like what me and you are doing right now.
1:08:08
It's like a ripple effect. We're inspiring people.
1:08:11
We're inspiring the cost. Yeah, we are doing what we're
1:08:16
doing is very impactful and. This is this is also why,
1:08:22
because I've been asked like, what?
1:08:23
Why do you still do this sort of content when it, you know, it
1:08:26
doesn't reach that many people? You know, you're not getting
1:08:28
millions of listeners, followers, doers, whatever.
1:08:32
And I'm like, because you don't know, maybe that one change
1:08:38
might actually save someone's life.
1:08:40
That one show, that one clip, you don't know.
1:08:43
It could make them laugh, it could make them cry, it could
1:08:46
motivate them. It could give them a sense of
1:08:48
perspective. You just don't know.
1:08:52
Yeah, that's very much true. And to reflect on my life, my
1:08:57
content has LP. People have said what I'm doing
1:09:01
help them cordial, but so I guess you're right about the
1:09:05
Ripley effect really. You don't know who you're
1:09:07
motivating. You don't know you're impacting
1:09:10
by you really. Del Mar has been a fantastic
1:09:14
time with you. I've really enjoyed your
1:09:15
company. Thank you so much for being on
1:09:17
the show. Thank you.
1:09:19
No, I should be thanking you for really taking your time to have
1:09:22
me here. So it was a nice talker and I
1:09:26
really appreciate it. So thank.
1:09:29
Maybe they mean to hear that For all the listeners of the
1:09:31
Christian Reef Podcast, I'll make sure to put a link to Del
1:09:34
Mas content in the links below. So make sure you check out his
1:09:38
content. Go give it a like go, give it a
1:09:40
follow. Go see if you know you like what
1:09:43
he's doing now. I don't know.
1:09:45
You might learn something, you might grow, you might be
1:09:46
inspired, who knows? For all the listeners of the
1:09:49
Christian Reef Podcast, I hope that you enjoyed this show as
1:09:52
much as I did. And as always, be safe, be well,
1:09:56
and I'll see you all in the next one.