Latest / Parent's Talk with Francine Juhlin / Episode 13: How to Teach Your Children to Manage Money (Before Its Too Late)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome to Parents Talk, where we help raise
- 0:07Speaker 1: strong and confident kids today so we don't have to
- 0:09Speaker 1: fix broken adults later. And the one thing I wish
- 0:15Speaker 1: I had when I was younger was financial literacy training.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I wish somebody taught me financial literacy Yes, my parents
- 0:28Speaker 1: said save. Yes, my parents say we can't afford that.
- 0:32Speaker 1: But no one talked to me about investing money. And
- 0:35Speaker 1: that's why I invited Macy Baxion here to talk about
- 0:42Speaker 1: how to have this conversation with your kids. And she's
- 0:46Speaker 1: going to give you just a short little presentation that
- 0:50Speaker 1: we will put up on the kids channel, Sparkle Feathers
- 0:55Speaker 1: TV on Facebook. YouTube. Sparkle Feathers TV is my new
- 1:01Speaker 1: creation and it's educational videos for children to help fill
- 1:07Speaker 1: the gaps that they're not getting in school. And overwhelmingly,
- 1:13Speaker 1: when I did a little survey, I found that financial
- 1:18Speaker 1: literacy is the number one issue that parents and educators
- 1:24Speaker 1: think kids need more. So we're going to have a
- 1:27Speaker 1: whole series of different financial literacy teachings for the kids.
- 1:34Speaker 1: And the first one is what Macy did. So Macy's
- 1:39Speaker 1: going to go through just a little bit of her
- 1:41Speaker 1: presentation and show you what she did for kids. But
- 1:45Speaker 1: more importantly, while you're listening, think about how you would
- 1:50Speaker 1: approach your kids to help support them in all the
- 1:54Speaker 1: things she's talking about. Okay, Macy.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Francine, for this honor. I'm super excited. I'm,
- 2:03Speaker 2: as a 22-year-old now, there are so many things that
- 2:05Speaker 2: I know I was so privileged to learn at a
- 2:07Speaker 2: young age. And I just want to be able to
- 2:09Speaker 2: pass that good fortune along to other kids. So I'm
- 2:13Speaker 2: going to share my screen in a moment. And as
- 2:16Speaker 2: it loads, these are some of the things that I
- 2:19Speaker 2: was using to tell kids how their money can grow,
- 2:23Speaker 2: what they can learn about money, and how you know,
- 2:26Speaker 2: how we can all make smarter decisions. Because I'm sure
- 2:29Speaker 2: sometimes telling a kid, we can't have this right now.
- 2:32Speaker 2: We can't have this toy. We need to save. They
- 2:35Speaker 2: don't fully understand what that means sometimes. So we're just
- 2:37Speaker 2: going to go through a few slides that I have
- 2:39Speaker 2: to kind of help them understand that there's a lot
- 2:43Speaker 2: of small things that they can start now and make
- 2:45Speaker 2: a lot better decisions later. So I taught a little
- 2:48Speaker 2: bit about how money can grow while you're busy living
- 2:50Speaker 2: your life. So here are the three things that we're
- 2:52Speaker 2: going to go over. Number one is compound interest. Number
- 2:56Speaker 2: two is the rule of 72. And then number three,
- 2:59Speaker 2: what are some smart habits? So think of it as
- 3:01Speaker 2: like your money superpowers. The tiny choices you make now
- 3:04Speaker 2: give you a lot more options in the future. So
- 3:07Speaker 2: we say investing is kind of like buying a small,
- 3:10Speaker 2: tiny piece of the future. It's putting money into something
- 3:14Speaker 2: you believe can grow over time in value. So think
- 3:17Speaker 2: of it like helping a good idea grow. I was
- 3:20Speaker 2: telling kids that maybe like saving is parking your money
- 3:22Speaker 2: safely somewhere. You're not touching it. It's in a corner somewhere.
- 3:26Speaker 2: But investing is giving your money a chance to grow.
- 3:29Speaker 2: So some examples could obviously be company stocks, funds, real estate,
- 3:35Speaker 2: or maybe a business. I was telling a lot of
- 3:36Speaker 2: the kids it's basically like if your favorite video game
- 3:40Speaker 2: right now got more valuable over time, if more people
- 3:43Speaker 2: were interested in over the years, that's a great way
- 3:47Speaker 2: for you to understand investing. Compound interest is when your
- 3:52Speaker 2: interest earns interest. So think of it like a snowball
- 3:56Speaker 2: running downhill. You have a small little ball at the
- 3:59Speaker 2: top and when you push it, all the snow gathers
- 4:02Speaker 2: around each other without you having to do anything. And
- 4:05Speaker 2: that's exactly what happens to your money when it's put
- 4:08Speaker 2: into an interest level account. So you could start with
- 4:11Speaker 2: a hundred dollars at the top of the hill. And
- 4:12Speaker 2: as it rolls all the way to the bottom, you
- 4:14Speaker 2: could have over 133. Now these are obviously pretty small numbers,
- 4:18Speaker 2: but especially when talking to kids, It's easy for them
- 4:21Speaker 2: to understand the basic numbers rather than getting involved in
- 4:24Speaker 2: all the math right now. But the key idea is
- 4:26Speaker 2: that your money can start doing some of the work
- 4:29Speaker 2: for you without you even touching it. So an example
- 4:33Speaker 2: would be maybe just $ 100 with a 10% growth. So again,
- 4:36Speaker 2: just a small figure for kids to wrap their heads around.
- 4:41Speaker 2: You can notice in year one, it's still at $ 100,
- 4:43Speaker 2: but over the next six years, it's over at $ 161.
- 4:46Speaker 2: So the dollar jump gets bigger and bigger, $ 10 and $ 11,
- 4:51Speaker 2: then $ 12. That's compounding. That's how your money can grow without, again,
- 4:56Speaker 2: you not investing another dollar into the account. So this
- 5:01Speaker 2: is the rule of 72. So this is something that
- 5:04Speaker 2: you can do early with your kids to help them
- 5:07Speaker 2: understand that time is on their side. They're actually going
- 5:10Speaker 2: to be the smartest in the room by being young
- 5:12Speaker 2: and understanding this rule. So this is a fast doubling
- 5:15Speaker 2: a shortcut. It's basically just the number 72, which is again,
- 5:19Speaker 2: it's just the number 72 divided by the growth rate.
- 5:23Speaker 2: And that will equal the years it would take that
- 5:25Speaker 2: money to double. You can really show kids that time
- 5:29Speaker 2: is on their side right now. They can become, you know, multimillionaires, right?
- 5:34Speaker 2: Like show them that the world is has so many
- 5:37Speaker 2: possibilities for them. So if your growth is at 6%,
- 5:40Speaker 2: which is pretty good, 72 divided by six is about
- 5:43Speaker 2: 12 years. So it's not a crazy amount of time,
- 5:46Speaker 2: but it is a significant amount of years. If the
- 5:49Speaker 2: growth is at 8%, it would take about nine years
- 5:52Speaker 2: for that to double. And obviously if the growth is
- 5:54Speaker 2: over 12%, you know, it'll take only six years. Think
- 5:57Speaker 2: about it. Six years is basically middle school and high
- 6:00Speaker 2: school for that money to double. So higher growth can
- 6:04Speaker 2: double faster. And obviously, we understand that it would usually
- 6:07Speaker 2: come with some more risk. So those are going to
- 6:09Speaker 2: be the differences between a 6 and 8 and a 12.
- 6:12Speaker 2: So I asked the kids, you know, which one would
- 6:13Speaker 2: double faster using the rule of 72? Would A, 4%
- 6:17Speaker 2: growth be faster or B, 9% growth? Obviously, it's going
- 6:22Speaker 2: to be B. But look at the numbers here. This
- 6:24Speaker 2: is what's really interesting. So the difference between 4 and
- 6:28Speaker 2: 9 is kind of small in the grand scheme of things, right?
- 6:31Speaker 2: They're both under 10. But 72 divided by nine is
- 6:35Speaker 2: eight years. And then 72 divided by four is 18 years.
- 6:41Speaker 2: So it's a quick brain workout, but I think it
- 6:43Speaker 2: really can put into words like how early you can
- 6:48Speaker 2: never be too early to start investing and start teaching
- 6:50Speaker 2: your kids this. So here are some three habits that
- 6:53Speaker 2: can make investing less scary for your kids and also
- 6:56Speaker 2: for you. So number one is obviously starting early. Time
- 6:59Speaker 2: is the secret ingredient. yesterday was always the best day
- 7:02Speaker 2: to start your investing journey. Number two, spread it out.
- 7:06Speaker 2: You know, don't put it all in one account. Don't
- 7:08Speaker 2: put it all in one interest. You know, spread it
- 7:10Speaker 2: out a little bit so you don't have to put
- 7:11Speaker 2: all your eggs in one basket. And then number three,
- 7:15Speaker 2: obviously expect some bumps. Markets go up and down. Just
- 7:18Speaker 2: plan that it's going to happen. And as long as
- 7:21Speaker 2: you're going on this journey with someone you trust, someone
- 7:24Speaker 2: who you know has your best interest in mind, that
- 7:27Speaker 2: is going to make everything so much easier. If you
- 7:30Speaker 2: know hey, my cousin George does this and I know
- 7:32Speaker 2: he's going to care so much about what happens to
- 7:34Speaker 2: my money. He's going to keep me updated. That's exactly
- 7:37Speaker 2: what you're looking for. So smart investing is not necessarily
- 7:40Speaker 2: a get rich quick thing. It's a grow patiently. So
- 7:45Speaker 2: here to wrap it all up, this is what we
- 7:46Speaker 2: talked about are your money superpowers, right? Number one, we
- 7:49Speaker 2: talked about compound interest, which is growth on growth. Number
- 7:53Speaker 2: two is the rule of 72. So just a quick
- 7:55Speaker 2: doubling estimate. And then number three, Time and patience and
- 7:59Speaker 2: spreading it out equals smarter investing. Ask your kids this.
- 8:04Speaker 2: If they invested $ 20 a month for the next year,
- 8:08Speaker 2: what would they want that future money to help them do?
- 8:11Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. That was awesome and a lesson
- 8:14Speaker 1: I wish I got when I was younger. Yeah. Let
- 8:18Speaker 1: me ask. We talked about this is for grades four
- 8:24Speaker 1: through six.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Do you think that we could approach a third grader
- 8:32Speaker 1: with this too?
- 8:37Speaker 2: I think that there are so many possibilities you can
- 8:42Speaker 2: do when you talk to kids about financial education. And
- 8:47Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is putting it into a
- 8:49Speaker 2: language they understand. I remember my local bank when I
- 8:52Speaker 2: was a kid, they had a program similar to this,
- 8:54Speaker 2: teaching kids about finances. saving and investing. And I think
- 8:58Speaker 2: they all use like a lemonade stand as an analogy, right?
- 9:01Speaker 2: So I think you can really teach kids as early
- 9:04Speaker 2: as possible. And maybe they're not going to fully understand
- 9:07Speaker 2: in third grade, but as long as you're exposing them
- 9:10Speaker 2: to the words, you're exposing them to the language that
- 9:13Speaker 2: maybe in sixth grade, when they feel a little bit
- 9:15Speaker 2: more ready for it, it's not going to be as
- 9:19Speaker 2: indecipherable for them, right? It's going to seem like, wait,
- 9:22Speaker 2: I remember that word from a few years ago. Oh,
- 9:25Speaker 2: is that really what it means now? So I think
- 9:28Speaker 2: it's something that you can start that conversation as early
- 9:30Speaker 2: as they can understand these things. But that might be
- 9:35Speaker 2: a patience thing. You might just have to wait a
- 9:37Speaker 2: few years for them to really understand what it means.
- 9:40Speaker 1: We are going to be doing videos. And by the
- 9:43Speaker 1: time you're watching this, they may already be done. I
- 9:46Speaker 1: have a banker friend who's going to be helping me
- 9:49Speaker 1: make some videos on counting money and budgeting and other
- 9:55Speaker 1: fun topics for the kids where they can learn how
- 9:58Speaker 1: to count change. and count money, which is all starting
- 10:03Speaker 1: this process in learning how to grow money in the future.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Now, I.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Met Macy through her father. His name is so close
- 10:16Speaker 1: to another friend I have. I didn't want to call
- 10:18Speaker 1: the wrong name. Manesh, yes. And I just listened to
- 10:25Speaker 1: what he had to say about how he raised his kids.
- 10:31Speaker 1: I mean, they're professional speakers at a very young age.
- 10:36Speaker 1: He just raised them with this business sense. And how
- 10:41Speaker 1: did your father... get you started in wanting to learn
- 10:47Speaker 1: this because not a lot of kids think this is
- 10:49Speaker 1: fun and exciting.
- 10:51Speaker 2: That's kind of my example is that I was young
- 10:53Speaker 2: and he started using these words like interest. He started
- 10:56Speaker 2: using big words like that when it comes to investing.
- 10:59Speaker 2: And I guess he was just saying it for so
- 11:03Speaker 2: long when I was really young. I don't even remember
- 11:05Speaker 2: how young I was. But it didn't really mean anything
- 11:08Speaker 2: to me at the time. But as the years had
- 11:10Speaker 2: gone by, and he kept reiterating these basic principles and concepts,
- 11:16Speaker 2: once I was finally old enough to really understand, and
- 11:20Speaker 2: I personally started working when I was 11. That was
- 11:22Speaker 2: my first time I got a job. And so when
- 11:26Speaker 2: I was finally at that age where I was dealing
- 11:29Speaker 2: with type money all the time, I was really understanding
- 11:32Speaker 2: the value of savings. And he was telling me on,
- 11:36Speaker 2: you know, what does it mean? And he was using
- 11:38Speaker 2: language that I could understand at the time too, right?
- 11:41Speaker 2: I think I was really into like American girl dolls
- 11:42Speaker 2: at the time or something. And so using things like
- 11:45Speaker 2: interest of, you know, valuables, right? Like something that is valuable,
- 11:50Speaker 2: like what I think is, Maybe a decent price right now,
- 11:54Speaker 2: like the average American girl at the time was one
- 11:56Speaker 2: hundred and ten dollars and now they're like one hundred
- 11:58Speaker 2: and thirty. Right. So using him telling me examples on
- 12:01Speaker 2: that when it comes to inflation, when it comes to interest,
- 12:04Speaker 2: when it comes to growing your money, he was just
- 12:08Speaker 2: patient about teaching me as the years had gone by.
- 12:11Speaker 2: And because he knew these concepts already when I was born,
- 12:15Speaker 2: he started my Roth IRA pretty young. And because of that,
- 12:20Speaker 2: it's grown exponentially since then because he opened it about
- 12:24Speaker 2: eight years ago for me.
- 12:27Speaker 1: So that's another thing that parents could learn is that
- 12:33Speaker 1: if you start now your capital investment will be so
- 12:39Speaker 1: much smaller and will get you to the same spot
- 12:42Speaker 1: later when it's time to pay for college.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Yes.
- 12:46Speaker 1: If you wait till they're ready to go to college, oh,
- 12:50Speaker 1: I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. Avoid that situation when you could
- 12:57Speaker 1: start now with maybe even just $ 20 a paycheck in
- 13:01Speaker 1: an interest-bearing account or money market fund. and watch it
- 13:06Speaker 1: grow while they're in first, second, third grade all the
- 13:10Speaker 1: way up through high school versus, oh, they're in high
- 13:13Speaker 1: school and they want to go to college, now what?
- 13:16Speaker 1: So I think this training is good for the parents
- 13:20Speaker 1: too who are so, and it's really not their fault,
- 13:25Speaker 1: they're just so busy with the day-to-day of making sure
- 13:29Speaker 1: their kids are eating and they have a roof over
- 13:31Speaker 1: their heads and they have clothes to wear that sometimes
- 13:34Speaker 1: They might not think how easy it is to plan
- 13:38Speaker 1: that far ahead. Two cups of coffee at Starbucks in
- 13:42Speaker 1: a savings account will go a whole lot further.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, think of it like this way. I'm
- 13:50Speaker 2: not sure if anyone's made pickles before or anything like that,
- 13:53Speaker 2: but pickles are only made through time, right? Adding more
- 13:56Speaker 2: and more vinegar is not going to make the process easier.
- 14:00Speaker 2: speed up it's not going to make it you know
- 14:02Speaker 2: faster same thing as like you're baking a turkey time
- 14:05Speaker 2: is the only thing really you you need for that
- 14:08Speaker 2: right you can't necessarily go from 350 to 500 and
- 14:12Speaker 2: be like, it's going to cook in less time. That's
- 14:14Speaker 2: not how it works. And it's the same thing with investing.
- 14:16Speaker 2: It's the same thing with money. It's like, yeah, you
- 14:19Speaker 2: could put more money into it later, but still that
- 14:21Speaker 2: time is too valuable that you can't necessarily speed up
- 14:25Speaker 2: that process by thinking, oh, I can invest tomorrow. I'll
- 14:28Speaker 2: have more money tomorrow. That's not how it works. As
- 14:31Speaker 2: much as we want to, you know, putting $ 20 yesterday
- 14:34Speaker 2: is even better than putting $ 40 tomorrow. Think of it
- 14:36Speaker 2: like that.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I love the turkey analogy because I remember my husband
- 14:43Speaker 1: once said, well, let's just turn it up. And I'm like, no,
- 14:47Speaker 1: I don't think that'll work. Well, he did it anyways.
- 14:50Speaker 1: And it was burnt on the outside. Yes. So kind
- 14:53Speaker 1: of raw on the inside.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 14:55Speaker 1: And that's what your savings account will be like. You'll
- 14:59Speaker 1: get this burning desire to have all the money you want,
- 15:03Speaker 1: but it's still going to be developing on the inside.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 15:08Speaker 1: So tell me, Macy, you have a whole career now
- 15:14Speaker 1: around financial planning. Can you tell everybody what you do
- 15:18Speaker 1: and maybe how you could help them?
- 15:20Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I help people understand the basics when it
- 15:24Speaker 2: comes to their investments, when it comes to protecting their family.
- 15:27Speaker 2: We have a pretty easy, I think, a seven-step process
- 15:31Speaker 2: to help people with their debt, with their investments, on
- 15:34Speaker 2: growing their money, on eliminating some of those issues. And
- 15:37Speaker 2: so when it comes to anything like that, that's what
- 15:40Speaker 2: I help people with. So I can help them put
- 15:41Speaker 2: them in the right state of mind. And then also,
- 15:44Speaker 2: we're a very hands-on family. We're all involved with it,
- 15:48Speaker 2: which means that We always have some built-in accountability, right?
- 15:51Speaker 2: We're going to be with you all the steps of
- 15:53Speaker 2: the way. We're not just going to give you some
- 15:54Speaker 2: of the solutions and say, good luck, figure it out
- 15:56Speaker 2: on your own. We're going to work with you. We're
- 15:58Speaker 2: going to help you. And we help families who have
- 16:01Speaker 2: as little as, you know, $ 50 to invest to start.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Or we have people who, you know, they have a
- 16:06Speaker 2: lot of money that they're ready to put into their
- 16:08Speaker 2: retirement accounts. Like any... Any such client where they're like,
- 16:13Speaker 2: you know, I can at least benefit from learning the
- 16:14Speaker 2: basics for at least my family. That's who we help.
- 16:18Speaker 2: And that's how you can reach out to me. So
- 16:19Speaker 2: the best way to find me is you can find
- 16:22Speaker 2: me on any social Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn. It's all just
- 16:26Speaker 2: my name, Macy Baxey. So you can just look me
- 16:29Speaker 2: up and reach out. So you're from Francine's video. And
- 16:32Speaker 2: I'm so excited to chat and see how we can
- 16:35Speaker 2: help each other.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I love this. Do you have any last words for parents?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Just any last words that I could take home with them.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Yeah. So the number one issue when it comes to
- 16:50Speaker 2: your finances is that, and the reason people don't seek
- 16:53Speaker 2: out help is because they feel like they should already
- 16:55Speaker 2: know this. And it's embarrassing to ask for help sometimes.
- 16:59Speaker 2: And I completely understand. It's not a fun conversation. It's
- 17:03Speaker 2: not easy to seek someone out and say, hey, I
- 17:05Speaker 2: don't understand this. Can you help me? It's like being
- 17:08Speaker 2: the only person who raises their hand in class being like,
- 17:11Speaker 2: I don't understand this concept. And everyone else is like, oh,
- 17:14Speaker 2: I already know it. It feels like that, but that's
- 17:17Speaker 2: not the truth. The truth is that seeking something out,
- 17:21Speaker 2: learning about what just options there are for you are
- 17:25Speaker 2: going to be better not only for you, but for
- 17:27Speaker 2: your partner, for your kids, for your grandkids, for your legacy.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Are you going to be known as the person who
- 17:34Speaker 2: could have gotten help but didn't? Or are you going
- 17:37Speaker 2: to be the person that your kids look up to you?
- 17:40Speaker 2: Like I look up to my parents and I know
- 17:41Speaker 2: that they did everything in their power to not only
- 17:44Speaker 2: do the right things for me, but learn and constantly
- 17:47Speaker 2: be learning. So there's no shame. You can be at
- 17:49Speaker 2: any age and reach out and say, I need help.
- 17:51Speaker 2: And that's just our goal is to help. That's all
- 17:54Speaker 2: it is. And so that's what I just want people
- 17:55Speaker 2: to know is that there's nothing embarrassing. If you learn
- 17:58Speaker 2: something new in this video, I'm so happy to hear.
- 17:59Speaker 2: You're not supposed to have known these things before. Don't
- 18:02Speaker 2: worry about it. You know, knowing today is better than
- 18:05Speaker 2: never knowing. So just a huge hats off to anyone
- 18:08Speaker 2: who's interested in learning about these things and helping their family.
- 18:12Speaker 2: And I would love to help take that next step.
- 18:15Speaker 1: And here's a little cautionary tale. I know when I
- 18:19Speaker 1: needed help, I found the wrong help.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Sure.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And it was back before the computer era even, before
- 18:28Speaker 1: all these computer scams. I can't imagine what it would
- 18:31Speaker 1: be like to be totally overwhelmed and not know where
- 18:39Speaker 1: to turn. I'm here to tell you, Macy is one
- 18:44Speaker 1: of the good ones.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 18:47Speaker 1: She is there to help and protect you. She's not
- 18:50Speaker 1: out there to scam you.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Be very careful who you trust because they are out there.
- 18:59Speaker 1: They say they're going to help you, but all they're
- 19:02Speaker 1: looking is for a piece of your action. So make
- 19:07Speaker 1: sure you vet the people who you want to help you.
- 19:12Speaker 1: And Macy is pre-vetted for you.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it, Francine. It means a lot
- 19:19Speaker 2: to be vetted like this and be put on your platform.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And if you have any questions,
- 19:26Speaker 1: please put it in the comments and we'll come back
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- 19:54Speaker 1: Thank you. Bye.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Bye.