Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Shout Shout Let It All Out Roland Orzabal From Tears For Fears Welcome To Your Life
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- 0:42Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Rowan, I got to tell you, thank
- 0:45Speaker 1: you from the very beginning. The reason why is because
- 0:47Speaker 1: when you guys first popped onto the music scene, I
- 0:49Speaker 1: was in AM radio, and we had many meetings about
- 0:53Speaker 1: you guys in Tears for Fears because we knew that
- 0:55Speaker 1: you were going to save us. We needed whatever we
- 0:58Speaker 1: could get to have that moment of just hanging on
- 1:01Speaker 1: as an AM radio station. So this is a full
- 1:03Speaker 1: circle moment for me. Thank you for helping to save
- 1:06Speaker 1: my early days of radio.
- 1:08Speaker 3: You're welcome. I never, ever saw myself as a savior,
- 1:12Speaker 3: but now you mention it, I'll take it.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Well, the journey that you have taken, and first of all,
- 1:17Speaker 1: you and I have something in common. We love the stars.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I follow the stars. I listen to the stars. I study.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I do everything. And it's like I really do base
- 1:25Speaker 1: my life on what's going on above us. And it
- 1:28Speaker 1: fascinates me that you're the same way.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of.
- 1:32Speaker 3: I don't actually live by it, meaning I don't see
- 1:38Speaker 3: where the planets are and decide to do something or
- 1:40Speaker 3: not do something.
- 1:41Speaker 2: I use it as a toolkit.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Of self-analysis to try and understand what is going on
- 1:51Speaker 3: inside me and to understand the changes that are occurring
- 1:55Speaker 3: in the real world and the changes that are occurring
- 2:00Speaker 3: inside of me as well.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's almost like I was recently out at
- 2:04Speaker 1: Cane Creek and we had four planets that were lining
- 2:08Speaker 1: up that night. And of course I wrote about that
- 2:10Speaker 1: because that's and I just feel like there's something hidden
- 2:12Speaker 1: away there for the creative mind, because as creative people,
- 2:16Speaker 1: we are connected to a universe that most people don't understand.
- 2:20Speaker 3: We're connected. I don't like using the word universe. I
- 2:24Speaker 3: like using the words solar system.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Oh, my God, yes, yes.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Because we are connected to that system because we are
- 2:33Speaker 3: inside it, and it's strong enough to create life as
- 2:39Speaker 3: we know it, which some people may see as being
- 2:43Speaker 3: completely accidental. I think it is part of an organic
- 2:47Speaker 3: process called that the solar system is really like a
- 2:52Speaker 3: holistic entity in itself. And we are merely part of
- 2:56Speaker 3: it the way that cells are part of our body.
- 3:00Speaker 1: You know, what's really fascinating, Roland, is the way that
- 3:02Speaker 1: you can't take a camera and capture the essence of
- 3:05Speaker 1: that solar system above us. But boy, when you listen
- 3:08Speaker 1: to a piece of music, that right there puts it
- 3:10Speaker 1: right there inside our heart and our imaginations. It just
- 3:13Speaker 1: fascinates me what writing does compared to a photograph.
- 3:18Speaker 2: No, it's true.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I think that there are, I mean, you know, you've
- 3:21Speaker 3: heard of that saying, the music of the spheres. You know,
- 3:26Speaker 3: there are harmonies being produced all the time by the
- 3:33Speaker 3: planetary bodies. And there is also discord. And I think
- 3:38Speaker 3: that part of us really, really tunes in to that,
- 3:44Speaker 3: that mood music, if you.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Like, So now when you write a book called Welcome
- 3:49Speaker 1: to Your Life, Love, Death, and Tears for Fears, Julia
- 3:52Speaker 1: Cameron will tell you that's what she calls cleaning out
- 3:54Speaker 1: the closet. Did it open up your imagination and your
- 3:58Speaker 1: creative soul in the way of saying, I'm going to
- 4:01Speaker 1: go look at new things because this old stuff is
- 4:03Speaker 1: now in a book and it's gone. So do you
- 4:06Speaker 1: feel refreshed and replenished?
- 4:10Speaker 3: That's an interesting question, you know, um, While I am
- 4:16Speaker 3: promoting this book and talking about it, I get very
- 4:22Speaker 3: sad sometimes about what's happened in my life, some of
- 4:26Speaker 3: the more unfortunate things.
- 4:29Speaker 2: And so in a sense.
- 4:31Speaker 3: I'm kind of like re-traumatizing myself, but I'm hoping, I'm
- 4:35Speaker 3: kind of hoping that, yes, it does clear the decks
- 4:39Speaker 3: and it becomes like a, you know, stage that I can,
- 4:45Speaker 3: for the future that I can build upon.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Please don't move. We'll be right back with Roland Orzabal
- 4:49Speaker 1: from Tears for Fears coming up next. The name of
- 4:53Speaker 1: the book, Welcome to Your Life, Love, Death, and Tears
- 4:57Speaker 1: for Fears. We are back with Roland Orzabal. Well, what
- 5:00Speaker 1: I love about your book is the fact that you're
- 5:02Speaker 1: open and honest because I've always believed that creativity is
- 5:05Speaker 1: an addiction and there's not enough creative people that are
- 5:07Speaker 1: openly stepping forward. Your book is such a fabulous tool,
- 5:12Speaker 1: but it also gives us the opportunity to explore newer
- 5:15Speaker 1: ways to live.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Well, I hope so.
- 5:19Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I don't really know what people
- 5:22Speaker 3: are going to take from it, but I'm hoping, I mean,
- 5:25Speaker 3: there's an element. The reason it's called Welcome to Your
- 5:28Speaker 3: Life is and not welcome to my life is because
- 5:33Speaker 3: I'm hoping it's kind of like a self help book
- 5:36Speaker 3: as well. And I'm hoping that people will use this
- 5:40Speaker 3: to make sense of what is going on in their life,
- 5:44Speaker 3: which a lot of the time is difficult. Um, and
- 5:49Speaker 3: you know, you, it helps, I think, to realize that
- 5:55Speaker 3: you are a character in a story. So I, yeah,
- 6:01Speaker 3: I wrote the book that has a narrative arc. It
- 6:03Speaker 3: starts with the death of my wife and it ends
- 6:05Speaker 3: with the birth of my daughter. Um, I realized when I.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Wrote it, I thought, well, this is a story. It's
- 6:13Speaker 2: just a story.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I was the main character and I'm hoping that other
- 6:18Speaker 3: people will read it and they'll think, wait a minute,
- 6:21Speaker 3: I am a character in my life.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Yes.
- 6:23Speaker 3: But who, who is the narrator? Who is the, who
- 6:26Speaker 3: is the author? So if you can then just try
- 6:30Speaker 3: and elevate yourself to the role of author, even if
- 6:34Speaker 3: it's for five minutes, you could step outside of your life.
- 6:39Speaker 1: You are so spot on because I looked it up going,
- 6:42Speaker 1: do I have multiple personalities? And it said, no, you've
- 6:45Speaker 1: got multiple roles in a story. You are so spot on.
- 6:50Speaker 2: That's a great way of putting it.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Did you create music while you were writing? Because my
- 6:57Speaker 1: past two books, I had to go into the recording
- 6:59Speaker 1: studio because I just felt alive as the words were
- 7:02Speaker 1: popping out. What about you? Did you go into that studio?
- 7:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
- 7:07Speaker 3: I mean, it was, well, it was last year, and
- 7:12Speaker 3: my wife Emily was pregnant with Eula, and that gave
- 7:17Speaker 3: rise to a lot of creativity, and I wrote about
- 7:20Speaker 3: nine songs.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Wow. Last year, it was a very productive period. And
- 7:25Speaker 2: that was going on while I was writing.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about this
- 7:30Speaker 1: book and your journey? And I want them to really
- 7:32Speaker 1: step into your process of really studying the solar system
- 7:36Speaker 1: because it's up there and we're ignoring it right now. Oh,
- 7:40Speaker 1: we're going to Mars. We're going to moon. No, there's
- 7:41Speaker 1: a lot more up there than that.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Yeah, there is because, you know, this is the difficulty
- 7:48Speaker 3: I think that most people have. They see the planets
- 7:52Speaker 3: up there and us down here. They think we're neutral
- 8:00Speaker 3: and that everything is going on outside of us. But
- 8:04Speaker 3: the fact is we are made from the same stuff.
- 8:09Speaker 3: We are made from underlying principles, the principles that have
- 8:13Speaker 3: created the planets. They came first. They are part of us.
- 8:17Speaker 3: So what's going on inside of us? you know, there's
- 8:20Speaker 3: this saying as above, so below. And, you know, I
- 8:25Speaker 3: don't think, don't think of us as, don't think of
- 8:30Speaker 3: it as us. And then just think about it as us.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 8:36Speaker 1: That is so beautiful. Please come back to this show
- 8:39Speaker 1: anytime in the future. The door is always going to
- 8:42Speaker 1: be open for you.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You be brilliant today. Okay.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Thank you.