Latest / INSIGHT FOR LIVING: Biblical Wisdom For Everyday Living / Changing a Leper’s Spots, Part 1
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Today on Insight for Living, Chuck Swindoll reminds us of
- 0:10Speaker 1: two words that sent crowds fleeing for the exits. And
- 0:14Speaker 1: for one man, those same two words became the sum
- 0:17Speaker 1: of his existence, a life of isolation, shame, and untouchable despair.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Can you guess the two words? Well, one day, this
- 0:26Speaker 1: marginalized man finally stepped out of the shadows and came
- 0:29Speaker 1: face to face with the only person who could change everything.
- 0:34Speaker 1: What happened next is one of the most tender, surprising
- 0:37Speaker 1: encounters in all of Scripture. Chuck titled today's message, Changing
- 0:42Speaker 1: a Leper's Spots.
- 0:51Speaker 2: If you've not yet done so, you will find in
- 0:53Speaker 2: your worship folder an outline for the morning message. And
- 0:57Speaker 2: you will also locate the scriptures found in the second
- 1:01Speaker 2: gospel of the New Testament, the gospel by Mark. We're
- 1:07Speaker 2: looking at the last six verses of Mark chapter 1,
- 1:11Speaker 2: verses 40 through 45. And a leper came to Jesus saying,
- 1:19Speaker 2: beseeching him and falling on his knees before him and saying,
- 1:23Speaker 2: if you are willing, you can make me clean. Moved
- 1:29Speaker 2: with compassion, Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him
- 1:35Speaker 2: and said to him, I am willing. Be cleansed. Immediately,
- 1:42Speaker 2: the leprosy left him and he was cleansed. And he
- 1:48Speaker 2: sternly warned him and immediately sent him away. And he
- 1:52Speaker 2: said to him, see that you say nothing to anyone,
- 1:57Speaker 2: but go show yourself to the priest and offer for
- 2:01Speaker 2: your cleansing what Moses commanded as a testimony to them.
- 2:07Speaker 2: But he went out and began to proclaim it freely
- 2:10Speaker 2: and to spread the news around to such an extent
- 2:13Speaker 2: that Jesus said, could no longer publicly enter a city,
- 2:19Speaker 2: but stayed out in unpopulated areas. And they were coming
- 2:24Speaker 2: to him from everywhere.
- 2:33Speaker 1: You're listening to Insight for Living. To dig deeper into
- 2:36Speaker 1: the gospel according to Mark, be sure to purchase a
- 2:39Speaker 1: copy of our Searching the Scriptures Bible Study Workbooks. by
- 2:42Speaker 1: going to insight.org slash offer. Chuck titled today's message, Changing
- 2:48Speaker 1: a Leper's Spots.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Two identical words would empty the room. Those same two
- 2:54Speaker 2: words would clear out a marketplace. In fact, whenever those
- 2:59Speaker 2: words were shouted, everybody ran for cover. I'm clean. I'm clean.
- 3:07Speaker 2: And as soon as the words were heard, Everybody knew
- 3:13Speaker 2: that they were in danger of being near a leper.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Leprosy today is virtually unknown and never enters our mind. However,
- 3:27Speaker 2: in ancient days, it was the dreaded plague. The closest
- 3:34Speaker 2: we could come today to how they must have felt
- 3:36Speaker 2: when those words were used would be for us to
- 3:40Speaker 2: find ourselves in the middle of a busy mall and
- 3:43Speaker 2: someone screams, suicide bomber! And we would skirt for the
- 3:51Speaker 2: exit as quickly as we could get out of there.
- 3:54Speaker 2: But in ancient days, suicide bombers were unheard of. But
- 3:59Speaker 2: leprosy was everywhere. In fact, it was such a pathetic
- 4:05Speaker 2: thing dreaded disease that when God gave the law to Moses,
- 4:11Speaker 2: he included an extensive section of the book of Leviticus
- 4:15Speaker 2: to address how one would know he has the disease
- 4:19Speaker 2: and then followed by 57 verses, count them out of
- 4:24Speaker 2: Leviticus 14, on how to deal with it when you
- 4:27Speaker 2: think you have been cleansed from leprosy. For example, listen
- 4:33Speaker 2: to the words of that Moses recorded out of Leviticus.
- 4:38Speaker 2: As for the leper who has the infection, his clothes
- 4:42Speaker 2: shall be torn and the hair of his head shall
- 4:44Speaker 2: be uncovered. The Hebrew word means unkempt, disheveled. The hair
- 4:49Speaker 2: of his head will be disheveled and he shall cover
- 4:53Speaker 2: his mustache, that is the lower part of his face,
- 4:56Speaker 2: and cry, unclean, unclean. He shall remain unclean all the
- 5:02Speaker 2: days during which he has the infection. He is unclean.
- 5:09Speaker 2: He shall live alone. His dwelling shall be outside the camp.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Leviticus 13, 45 and 46. In our antiseptic 21st century world,
- 5:26Speaker 2: we're so removed from the fear of leprosy, even the
- 5:30Speaker 2: thought of being contaminated is foreign to us. And admittedly,
- 5:36Speaker 2: great strides have been taken in the disease so that
- 5:39Speaker 2: we do now know more about it than we did, say,
- 5:42Speaker 2: 50 and more years ago. One whom we have to
- 5:47Speaker 2: thank for that knowledge is Dr. Paul Brand, the late Dr.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Paul Brand. unfortunately died within recent years. He wrote the
- 5:57Speaker 2: fine book, Fearfully and Wonderfully Made, as well as Pain,
- 6:03Speaker 2: The Gift Nobody Wants. In that more autobiographical work on pain, Dr.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Paul Brand describes how he had an aversion to medicine
- 6:16Speaker 2: while growing up. His father and mother were missionaries in
- 6:20Speaker 2: the southern hills of India, And while there, his father,
- 6:25Speaker 2: who practiced medicine among the people of India, dealt with
- 6:30Speaker 2: all kinds of diseases and maladies. Brand remembers many of them,
- 6:36Speaker 2: and they turned him off, frankly. Listen to his words.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Over time, childhood memories of medicine had distilled into a
- 6:45Speaker 2: few scenes of suffering, and I now found these scenes abhorrent.
- 6:51Speaker 2: There was the revolting scene of my parents working on
- 6:54Speaker 2: a woman tormented by guinea worms, including one whose dragon
- 7:00Speaker 2: tail poked out of the corner of her eye. And
- 7:06Speaker 2: the memory of my father's most challenging patient, a man
- 7:10Speaker 2: who survived a mauling by a bear, his scalp torn
- 7:15Speaker 2: from ear to ear. And there was one more scene, too,
- 7:20Speaker 2: perhaps the most haunting of all. My father would not
- 7:25Speaker 2: even let us watch him work on the three strange
- 7:28Speaker 2: men who approached the clinic one afternoon. He confined us
- 7:33Speaker 2: to the house, but I sneaked out and peered through
- 7:36Speaker 2: the bushes. These men had stiff hands, covered with sores.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Fingers were missing, bandages covered their feet. And when Dad
- 7:49Speaker 2: removed these bandages, I saw that their stumpy feet had
- 7:55Speaker 2: no toes. I watched my father mystified. Could he actually
- 8:02Speaker 2: be afraid? He did not banter with the patients, and
- 8:07Speaker 2: he did something I had never seen him do before.
- 8:12Speaker 2: He put on a pair of gloves before dressing their wounds.
- 8:19Speaker 2: The men had brought a basket of fruit as a gift,
- 8:21Speaker 2: but after they left, mother burned the basket along with
- 8:25Speaker 2: my father's gloves, an unheard of act of waste. We
- 8:30Speaker 2: were ordered not to play in that spot. Those men
- 8:34Speaker 2: were lepers, we were told. Isn't it just like the
- 8:41Speaker 2: Lord to take an experience that was so, so disgusting
- 8:46Speaker 2: to a little boy and over the passing of years
- 8:51Speaker 2: turned his attention to the study of medicine and ultimately
- 8:56Speaker 2: to giving his life, truly, to the people of Carville,
- 9:00Speaker 2: a leprosarium in Louisiana, where the man studied this strange
- 9:06Speaker 2: disease that makes the limbs numb so that feelings no
- 9:12Speaker 2: longer are attached to the nerves in our bodies They
- 9:17Speaker 2: scraped themselves and cut themselves and often bruised themselves so
- 9:21Speaker 2: deeply that, well, they wind up with such stubs for
- 9:25Speaker 2: hands and feet that it is tragic to behold. Dr.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Brand poured himself into those lives as he devoted himself
- 9:35Speaker 2: to the study of leprosy. So that today we realize
- 9:41Speaker 2: what they never knew back in ancient days. However, there
- 9:47Speaker 2: are on occasion a leprosarium located far removed from the
- 9:54Speaker 2: people of the world, away from populated areas. But in
- 10:00Speaker 2: ancient days, Jewish colonies were preserved from any of that
- 10:05Speaker 2: plague by the one who had the disease announcing, should
- 10:10Speaker 2: he or she ever be out in public, unclean, unclean.
- 10:16Speaker 2: which makes this narrative we're looking at in Mark chapter one,
- 10:21Speaker 2: verses 40 through 45, all the more intriguing. Our Lord
- 10:26Speaker 2: cleanses a leper here, but what is remarkable is that
- 10:29Speaker 2: there is no shout. Maybe there was something that the
- 10:34Speaker 2: leper had observed from a distance away about Jesus that
- 10:40Speaker 2: caused the leper to know he wouldn't need to shout
- 10:43Speaker 2: that when coming to the master. We're not told, but
- 10:49Speaker 2: the absence of the shout tells us there must have
- 10:52Speaker 2: been something that drew him to the one who could
- 10:55Speaker 2: bring cleansing. And by the way, leprosy all the way
- 10:58Speaker 2: through scripture is rarely described as being healed or cured.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Leprosy is a symbol of sin, and we're never healed
- 11:07Speaker 2: or cured of sin, only cleansed. And so appropriately, All
- 11:13Speaker 2: the way through time, the victim of leprosy would announce
- 11:18Speaker 2: that he needs cleansing or the hope as he would
- 11:22Speaker 2: be attended by a physician. Could there be cleansing of
- 11:26Speaker 2: my condition? And that's the cry in the heart of
- 11:30Speaker 2: this man. Two surprises actually meet us as we get
- 11:34Speaker 2: to verse 40. There is no shouting of the word unclean.
- 11:38Speaker 2: And second, what he says... seems amazing to us. In fact,
- 11:48Speaker 2: read the verse with me. A leper came to Jesus,
- 11:50Speaker 2: beseeching him and falling on his knees before him and saying,
- 11:54Speaker 2: if you are willing, you can make me clean. Initially,
- 11:59Speaker 2: we're to understand the heart of this leper. He acknowledges
- 12:04Speaker 2: completely his condition. There's no hiding of the disease. In fact,
- 12:11Speaker 2: Luke 5, verse 12, Dr. Luke, the physician who writes
- 12:14Speaker 2: the one of the gospels, states that the man is
- 12:18Speaker 2: full of leprosy. So it's in its advanced stages. Perhaps
- 12:23Speaker 2: by then there was no nose, there were no lips.
- 12:27Speaker 2: If not one, perhaps both of the ears were gone
- 12:31Speaker 2: by then. Perhaps no fingers or just a few. Luke
- 12:35Speaker 2: tells us that he fell on his face and implored
- 12:38Speaker 2: the Lord. Matthew states he bowed down before him. Both
- 12:42Speaker 2: of those writers tell us that he used the word Lord. Lord. Kurios.
- 12:49Speaker 2: A word for submission to a supreme one. And so
- 12:56Speaker 2: he calls him Lord and has no sense of entitlement.
- 13:02Speaker 2: See the way he puts it. If you are willing,
- 13:04Speaker 2: you can cleanse me. The way Mark writes this is
- 13:10Speaker 2: in a particular condition that suggests maybe you are and
- 13:14Speaker 2: maybe you're not. It's undetermined. There is, at best, we
- 13:20Speaker 2: could say hopeful doubt. The man has spent years of
- 13:24Speaker 2: his life isolated from family and friends, and now he
- 13:28Speaker 2: comes and says to the only one who could give
- 13:31Speaker 2: him hope, if you're willing, you can cleanse me. Let
- 13:38Speaker 2: me pause here for a little sidebar of information. It
- 13:41Speaker 2: occurred to me it might help all of us to
- 13:44Speaker 2: learn from this need for relief. The Bible speaks of
- 13:49Speaker 2: four areas of relief, relief, which is a magnificent experience,
- 13:55Speaker 2: relief of anything. First, regarding disease, the Bible speaks of
- 14:02Speaker 2: healing a disease. Surgeons can't heal. Only God can heal.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Physicians cannot bring about a removal of a disease. They
- 14:16Speaker 2: can prescribe medicine and often do great work in analysis, diagnosis,
- 14:21Speaker 2: and even the work of surgery. But the healing of
- 14:25Speaker 2: the body to take away the pain of a disease
- 14:29Speaker 2: rests in the hands of God. So the first kind
- 14:33Speaker 2: of relief would be the relief of pain that comes
- 14:38Speaker 2: through the healing of a disease. Here's a second. Regarding sin,
- 14:43Speaker 2: we are hopelessly lost in our sins should God not intervene.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Sins must be forgiven and only God can forgive sins.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Sin brings guilt and condemnation. The only way to find
- 15:01Speaker 2: relief from either or both is through forgiveness. And we
- 15:07Speaker 2: are promised forgiveness through the cross. He who knew no
- 15:12Speaker 2: sin became sin on our behalf. What a grand statement.
- 15:16Speaker 2: That we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
- 15:22Speaker 2: So there's the relief of guilt and condemnation that sin
- 15:26Speaker 2: brings through the forgiveness that only God can give. There's
- 15:29Speaker 2: a third, death. Death plagues virtually every person alive, certainly
- 15:37Speaker 2: those without Christ. One psychologist writes, the last place anyone
- 15:42Speaker 2: can ever imagine herself or himself is in a casket.
- 15:47Speaker 2: We are so repulsed with the thought that we can't
- 15:50Speaker 2: imagine ourselves ever being in that box.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Why?
- 15:57Speaker 2: Because most feel the helplessness and hopelessness that death brings.
- 16:03Speaker 2: The only way to find relief from such hopelessness and
- 16:07Speaker 2: grief is resurrection. Only God can resurrect the dead. And
- 16:13Speaker 2: he promises to do so, yet future. There's a fourth,
- 16:18Speaker 2: and that's what we're dealing with here, and that's leprosy.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Leprosy speaks, don't miss this, leprosy speaks of the stigma
- 16:26Speaker 2: of shame. That's why when you ever witness in your lifetime,
- 16:31Speaker 2: and surely most of you never have, when you ever
- 16:34Speaker 2: are seeing a leper, you will rarely have eye contact.
- 16:39Speaker 2: They look down. It's a disease that brings shame to
- 16:44Speaker 2: the victim. The stigma of having leprosy. Miriam was judged
- 16:52Speaker 2: by God and made a leper. King Uzziah was judged
- 16:57Speaker 2: by God and became a leper till his death. In fact,
- 17:02Speaker 2: his gravestone reads, he is a leper. It is such
- 17:08Speaker 2: a dread disease that the person with this disease is
- 17:12Speaker 2: set aside and quarantined in a place that not even
- 17:15Speaker 2: family can reach them. They live in isolation, which makes
- 17:20Speaker 2: this man's coming out into public and meeting the master
- 17:24Speaker 2: all the more remarkable. You and I can't imagine the
- 17:28Speaker 2: magnetism of a life like Jesus. There was something about
- 17:32Speaker 2: his presence that drew the man out of the shadows
- 17:36Speaker 2: and brought him face to face with the master saying,
- 17:39Speaker 2: if you are willing, you can cleanse me. Now, the
- 17:42Speaker 2: second I noticed in this passage versus 41 and 42
- 17:47Speaker 2: is a compassionate response followed by a miracle. Don't rush
- 17:52Speaker 2: to the miracle before you take time to see the
- 17:56Speaker 2: first thing that occurred in the life of Jesus is
- 17:59Speaker 2: his being moved with compassion. It's a tough Greek word
- 18:05Speaker 2: to pronounce. Splachna is the word. It's a guttural term.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Splachna means the innards. We would call it the guts.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Deep within the body is, in the Greek term, the splachna,
- 18:19Speaker 2: the entrails. the visceral part of one's inner being. Jesus
- 18:24Speaker 2: down in the depths of his being feels deeply. He's
- 18:30Speaker 2: filled with tenderness for this man in his helpless condition.
- 18:34Speaker 2: So that's the first response. He is moved with compassion.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Following that twinge of compassion, please observe, and I love this,
- 18:44Speaker 2: Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him. You never
- 18:54Speaker 2: touched a leper. You never sat where a leper sat.
- 19:00Speaker 2: You never ate anything a leper would give you, which
- 19:03Speaker 2: explains the reason the mother would burn the basket and
- 19:07Speaker 2: the fruit. But Jesus breaks with the years of tradition
- 19:14Speaker 2: and condemnation and reaches out to Bishop of Westcott, makes
- 19:22Speaker 2: the statement that the Greek term suggests a firm grip,
- 19:26Speaker 2: not just a pat on the head, but perhaps a
- 19:30Speaker 2: gripping of the shoulder or of both shoulders. He reached
- 19:35Speaker 2: out and he touched him. This man who has no name,
- 19:40Speaker 2: who has no history, and has no value to Jesus
- 19:45Speaker 2: is suddenly touched by the master he had not been
- 19:51Speaker 2: embraced by his wife for as long as he can
- 19:55Speaker 2: remember if he is married and with children the children
- 19:58Speaker 2: have not touched him for as long as he's had
- 20:00Speaker 2: the disease think of it he had forgotten what it
- 20:05Speaker 2: felt like to have an arm around his shoulder or
- 20:07Speaker 2: a hand on his head I want to pause here
- 20:15Speaker 2: and talk to all of us about the value of touch.
- 20:19Speaker 2: I hope all of you know the joy of being
- 20:22Speaker 2: loved by those who touch you. We live in a
- 20:25Speaker 2: strange time. Teachers are no longer to touch their students. Well,
- 20:31Speaker 2: I remember teachers that touched me. We had a coach
- 20:36Speaker 2: that touched me rather regularly in a place I will
- 20:38Speaker 2: not describe. with a great big paddle. We no longer
- 20:43Speaker 2: touch people. It's not politically correct. I'm not talking about
- 20:48Speaker 2: an inappropriate touch, you know that, please. I'm talking about
- 20:54Speaker 2: an embrace that means something. I can tell you in
- 20:58Speaker 2: my own life that there is nothing like the embrace
- 21:02Speaker 2: of my wife when the bottom is dropped out of
- 21:05Speaker 2: my life. And I can tell you there are times
- 21:09Speaker 2: that our grown children come near me and know that
- 21:12Speaker 2: I'm going through a tough time and their touch means
- 21:15Speaker 2: more than I can put into words. Just to be touched.
- 21:20Speaker 2: I make it a habit regularly when I see someone
- 21:22Speaker 2: in a wheelchair to lean over and touch them. Most
- 21:27Speaker 2: of them are never touched. I've watched people in wheelchairs
- 21:31Speaker 2: and the best they get is a little pat on
- 21:33Speaker 2: the head. When you see someone who is in need
- 21:37Speaker 2: like that, don't be afraid to touch them. And by
- 21:42Speaker 2: the way, I also know we're in Texas, where men
- 21:46Speaker 2: don't touch. What nonsense is that, huh? If you're a
- 21:52Speaker 2: father and you are no longer touching, I regret that
- 21:54Speaker 2: for your family. Your family needs to feel your arms
- 21:58Speaker 2: around them. And I'll tell you, there's nothing like a
- 22:02Speaker 2: grandson or granddaughter I was getting firewood years ago when
- 22:07Speaker 2: our little Parker, one of our grandchildren, was just really small.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Came up about to my waist and just big enough
- 22:14Speaker 2: not to carry firewood but thought he was strong enough
- 22:16Speaker 2: to do so. So I'm carrying the firewood and I
- 22:19Speaker 2: bring it in to put in the fireplace and he
- 22:21Speaker 2: says later, we carried all that wood in here, didn't we?
- 22:24Speaker 2: And I said, we sure did. We sure did. And
- 22:27Speaker 2: the warmth came from the fireplace and it got cozy
- 22:30Speaker 2: and I'm standing there warming my hands and little Parker
- 22:33Speaker 2: puts his He puts his arms around my legs and
- 22:36Speaker 2: he looks up at me and he says, Bubba, I
- 22:41Speaker 2: love you with all my heart. I said, would you
- 22:45Speaker 2: like a Porsche? Or something like that. I mean, it
- 22:52Speaker 2: moved me. It moved me. Kent Hughes tells the moving
- 22:59Speaker 2: story of speaking to a person who didn't know Christ.
- 23:04Speaker 2: And the man is so lonely, he didn't belong to
- 23:07Speaker 2: a church. And in describing his loneliness to Kent, he
- 23:12Speaker 2: said that he had his hair cut once a week
- 23:16Speaker 2: just to have someone touch him. I realize I've taken
- 23:21Speaker 2: a little excursion from the story, the narrative, but it's
- 23:24Speaker 2: worth our time. Don't forget in this busy, cold, windy world,
- 23:34Speaker 2: to touch the people you love. Please. He reached out
- 23:42Speaker 2: and he touched him. I'm willing. Be clean. I pause
- 23:51Speaker 2: here so you can feel what that man must have felt.
- 23:58Speaker 2: For the first time, he's cleansed. Mark goes immediately to
- 24:05Speaker 2: his favorite word, immediately. Immediately the leprosy left him and
- 24:10Speaker 2: he was cleansed. I love it that it's in the
- 24:14Speaker 2: passive voice. This Greek term, he was cleansed. His faith
- 24:20Speaker 2: did not cleanse him. How wrong of these so-called faith
- 24:23Speaker 2: healers to say when someone isn't healed, you just didn't
- 24:26Speaker 2: have enough faith. What an insult. This man has no faith.
- 24:33Speaker 2: He doesn't even have fingers or toes or a name
- 24:39Speaker 2: or dignity. He's helpless. And he was cleansed.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Love that.
- 24:49Speaker 2: He was cleansed.
- 24:59Speaker 1: He was cleansed, not by his own faith, not by
- 25:02Speaker 1: anything he did, but by the sheer compassion of a
- 25:05Speaker 1: Savior who reached out and touched the untouchable. Maybe today
- 25:09Speaker 1: you've been hiding something that you thought made you unclean
- 25:12Speaker 1: or unworthy or beyond reach.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Well, hear this.
- 25:15Speaker 1: The same Jesus still cleanses, still touches, still restores dignity
- 25:20Speaker 1: to the helpless. This is Insight for Living, Chuck Swindoll
- 25:24Speaker 1: titled today's study in Mark Chapter 1, Changing a Leper's Spots.
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