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The Bolt Report | 22 December · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Goodness gives the report good evening.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Danikiti Giorgio filling in tonight for Andrew Bolt coming
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  Speaker 2: up on the show. Disturbing images have been released of
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  Speaker 2: the alleged gunman planning the massacre, yet the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: is still.
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  Speaker 3: Refusing calls for a royal commission.
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  Speaker 2: I'll speak to a Jewish advocate leading the charge for
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  Speaker 2: the case through a change.
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  Speaker 3: Dot org petition.
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  Speaker 2: Pennywong delivers a half ast apology, admitting regret for not
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  Speaker 2: having visited the site of the October seven attack during
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  Speaker 2: a trip to Israel, and after years of demonizing gas,
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen announces a plan for a gas reservation scheme
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  Speaker 2: on the East Coast, but first tonight, under pressure and
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  Speaker 2: missing in action, Prime Minister Anthony Aarberesi today said sorry
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  Speaker 2: to the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 4: As Prime Minister, I feel the white of responsibility for
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  Speaker 4: an atrocity that happened whilst I'm Prime Minister, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: sorry for what the Jewish community and our nation as
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  Speaker 4: a whole has experienced, the Government will work every day
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  Speaker 4: to protect Jewish Australians, to protect the fundamental right as
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  Speaker 4: Australians that they have to be proud of who they are,
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  Speaker 4: to practice their faith, to educate their children, and to
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  Speaker 4: engage in Australian society in the fullest way possible.
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  Speaker 2: So now he says he's sorry, better late than never, But.
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  Speaker 3: Call me cynical. I don't believe him.
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  Speaker 2: The timing of this sorry moment feels incredibly insincere. There's
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  Speaker 2: been two years of inaction, while Jews feared for their lives,
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  Speaker 2: synagogues were firebombed, hate was spewed, culminating in the deaths
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  Speaker 2: of fifteen innocent people. He's continued to ignore the real
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  Speaker 2: reason behind the massacre, radical Islam. He won't even acknowledge it,
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  Speaker 2: So there goes him doing anything about it. Users to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge community anger about the multicultural experiment failing by some
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  Speaker 2: people who've been brought into this country whose values are
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  Speaker 2: incompatible with our own. So this apology feels like a
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  Speaker 2: snap pr directive on self survival from the stakeholder Relations department,
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  Speaker 2: especially after his disastrous appearance at the Night of Unity
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  Speaker 2: vigil in Bondai last night, where thousands of Ozzies gathered
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  Speaker 2: to remember those murdered a week ago.
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  Speaker 5: The Prime Minister of Australia Anthony Alberi, New South Wales
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  Speaker 5: Premier Chris Menz, who has not missed a funeral, a
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  Speaker 5: synagogue service or an opportunity to be at the.
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  Speaker 6: Jewish Unity this week.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you Chris for your leadership.
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  Speaker 2: The Albaneze failed his public tests last night. He was
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  Speaker 2: always going to and that's why he would not go
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  Speaker 2: back to the memorial after having only been once early
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  Speaker 2: last Monday. It's all about optics and this goes beyond politics,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. This is anger over a lack of
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  Speaker 2: accountability and lack of action on anti Semitism for more
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  Speaker 2: than two years now, fifteen innocent people are dead and
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister found out in real time last night
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  Speaker 2: how the community feels about him and his government. His
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  Speaker 2: offer to speak at the memorial was rejected, and so
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister had all of last week to apology,
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  Speaker 2: to admit his failures. He's had the last two years
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  Speaker 2: to stamp out anti Semitism. So the timing of today's
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  Speaker 2: apology just feels like it was done out of self
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  Speaker 2: preservation to patch up the national embarrassment that was made
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  Speaker 2: of him last night.
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  Speaker 3: And sorry means absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, without action, how can you say sorry, and
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  Speaker 2: that you will work every day to protect Jewish Australians
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  Speaker 2: When you can't even prevent what you refuse to investigate.
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  Speaker 2: It's a no from labor to a federal royal commission
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  Speaker 2: into the Bondai massacre, the highest level of independent inquiry,
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  Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister said no. Now, just think about that.
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi said no to the most comprehensive level of
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  Speaker 2: investigation into the worst terror attack on home soil, the
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  Speaker 2: mass murder of Jews in our country, to get to
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of what happened and to make sure it
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  Speaker 2: never happens again. To stand side by side with the
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  Speaker 2: Jewish community and do something about anti Semitism, radical Islam
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  Speaker 2: and its scourge on this country. A ten year old
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  Speaker 2: girl was murdered on a beach, for goodness sake, it
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  Speaker 2: should be a no brainer, and the Prime Minister said no,
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  Speaker 2: instead deciding to opt for a review led by former
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  Speaker 2: Intelligence chief Dennis Richardson based out of the Prime Minister's
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  Speaker 2: own department.
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  Speaker 3: It's an internal review which really calls into question the.
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister's own admission last week that he could have
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  Speaker 2: done more.
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  Speaker 4: It is clear we need to do more to combat
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  Speaker 4: this evil scourge much more. What we know is that
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  Speaker 4: there's more that we can do. Is there more that
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  Speaker 4: can be done? There is always more that can be done, Always,
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  Speaker 4: and quite clearly, there's more to do.
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  Speaker 2: How can he look at Australians in the eye and
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  Speaker 2: say that. How can he then say sorry when all
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  Speaker 2: he's called for is a limited inquiry. Does he think
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  Speaker 2: he can just wish this away, sleep through the summer,
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  Speaker 2: wake up when Parliament resumes next year and hope it's
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  Speaker 2: all blown over. Well, newsflash, Anthony Albanesi, this is just
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  Speaker 2: the start because this won't give Jews any level of reassurance.
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  Speaker 2: Labour's called for multiple Royal commissions, like into age care
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  Speaker 2: and the banking sector, but when fifteen innocent people are slaughtered,
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  Speaker 2: it's a no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he was a Prime minister ducking and weaving.
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  Speaker 4: Today we want urgency and unity, not division and delay.
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  Speaker 4: We have commenced already the Richardson Review. Dennis Richardson met
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  Speaker 4: today with the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet. We
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  Speaker 4: wanted him as well to have input into his terms
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  Speaker 4: of reference and that is why that work began today.
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  Speaker 4: The new South Wales government have announced a Royal Commissioner
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  Speaker 4: and the Federal Government will cooperate fully with that.
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  Speaker 2: What is the PM afraid of? And this is not
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  Speaker 2: about a witch hunt, by the way, it's a moral imperative.
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  Speaker 2: It's about making sure Jews and Australian feel safe in
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  Speaker 2: their own country. Would a royal commission Maybe it will
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  Speaker 2: be uncomfortable for Labour, probably, But do you know what's
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  Speaker 2: uncomfortable running for your life from the gunfire of two
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  Speaker 2: alleged jihadi sympathizers. And surely that is the risk Labor
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  Speaker 2: would and should take when an attack of this magnitude
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  Speaker 2: occurs on home soil. And this is the only way
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  Speaker 2: to intrinsically examine every angle of Bondai government response, the
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  Speaker 2: lead up, what happened, how can be prevented radical Islam,
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  Speaker 2: the foothold it has in Australia immigration policy, the threat
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  Speaker 2: that that poses to our values, the role of security
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  Speaker 2: and law enforcement, what warnings were ignored and failures in intelligence?
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  Speaker 2: And while Labour dithers, the Coalition has released the draft
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  Speaker 2: terms of reference for a commission or a Royal commission.
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  Speaker 7: Now the Prime Minister must look past the jeers directed
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  Speaker 7: at him last night and hear the cries he must
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  Speaker 7: put aside his pride and take action. He has failed
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  Speaker 7: to respond appropriately to this terrible attack, but there is
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  Speaker 7: still an opportunity to get it right.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to see the memories of the fifteen
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  Speaker 8: Australians who died last Sunday. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 8: their memories being desecrated by this half measured departmental review
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  Speaker 8: that is proposed.
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  Speaker 1: By this Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 8: We need nothing short of a royal commission now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very strong words.
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Chris Mins has even announced a
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  Speaker 2: new South Wales based Royal Commission and has indicated he
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  Speaker 2: is expecting the cooperation of federal partners like the AFP
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  Speaker 2: and ASO.
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  Speaker 9: It clearly needs to examine closely the inputs that led
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  Speaker 9: to this anti Semitic act of hate, what happened in
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  Speaker 9: the lead up to that. It's my strong belief that
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  Speaker 9: anti Semitism, racism more generally starts with words and then
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  Speaker 9: it becomes actions. So absent and investigation into anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 9: it's not going to make sense. It's not to be
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  Speaker 9: a big piece of the jigsaw puzzle that we need
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  Speaker 9: to put together.
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  Speaker 2: And Chris Mins is exposing himself by announcing a Royal commission,
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  Speaker 2: but not the Prime Minister. Former Chief Justice Robert French
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  Speaker 2: and ex Intelligence Chief Nick Warner have added their voices
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  Speaker 2: to a Royal Commission appoint echoed by former AFP officer
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  Speaker 2: David Craig.
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  Speaker 10: I can't think of one reason why there shouldn't be
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  Speaker 10: a national Royal Commission, a Commonwealth Royal Commission. I was
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  Speaker 10: personally a Royal Commission investigator in New South Wales into
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  Speaker 10: the New South Wales police corruption back in the nineties.
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  Speaker 10: I know how effective it is, but it's only effective statewide.
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  Speaker 10: We need a Commonwealth Royal Commission if we want to
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  Speaker 10: actually find out what went on, who knew, what, who actioned, what,
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  Speaker 10: what the government government was told and what they did
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  Speaker 10: with that information. And there's a range more questions that
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  Speaker 10: need to be answered, because this isn't just about Bondai,
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  Speaker 10: this is the two years leading up to Bondai.
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  Speaker 2: Even Labor and ps ed Husick and Mike Freelander have
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  Speaker 2: broken ranks calling for a Royal commission.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why Anthony.
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  Speaker 2: Aberneze's apology today feels insincere because actions speak louder than words.
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  Speaker 2: He's avoided Bondai for a week, goes back, gets booed, apologizes,
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  Speaker 2: but still won't act, and the Prime Minister thinks that
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  Speaker 2: this will all be magically solved via an internal inquiry,
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  Speaker 2: a gun buyback scheme, strengthening hates speech laws, while still
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  Speaker 2: refusing to front up to the real problem.
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  Speaker 11: And you cannot fix a problem, Prime Minister, if you
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  Speaker 11: are not prepared to name it. We will know this
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  Speaker 11: Prime Minister is serious about tackling anti Semitism when he
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  Speaker 11: names it for what it is. It's not the gun,
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  Speaker 11: it's Islamic extremism, and it's in our suburbs. And for
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  Speaker 11: too long we've papered over that reality in some hope
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  Speaker 11: of you know, this multical multicultural nirvana.
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  Speaker 3: And look she's not wrong once again.
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  Speaker 2: And today the Prime Minister couldn't even bring himself to
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  Speaker 2: call out radical Islam. Jews have been murdered and you
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  Speaker 2: at home bear the consequences through restrictive and ad hoc laws.
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  Speaker 2: Under Labour's multiculturalism experiment, the Prime Minister can call out
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism. That's not brave. It's a cop out. Calling
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  Speaker 2: out the real issue.
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  Speaker 3: Radical Islam is what leaders do. Look at the parents
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  Speaker 3: of youngest.
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  Speaker 2: Victim Matilda, who were inconsolable at last night's vigil in
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  Speaker 2: each other's arms as Waltzing Matilda was played in her
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  Speaker 2: honor at the memorial. No parent should ever have to
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  Speaker 2: bury their child.
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  Speaker 3: Is this not enough for you? Anthony Alberizi?
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  Speaker 2: And I've got to say there was a touching moment
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  Speaker 2: last night that reminded us of.
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  Speaker 3: Who we are. Have a look. We are Australian, but.
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  Speaker 2: Some don't want to be and it's those people who
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  Speaker 2: are most dangerous to us. Call a royal commission, Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: correct the course or your apology is worthless. Serving images
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  Speaker 2: of alleged terrorists Sajid and Navid Akrum allegedly training with
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  Speaker 2: guns in Australia have been released in court documents provided
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  Speaker 2: by police. It includes pictures of the pair allegedly practicing
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  Speaker 2: for the Bondai attack in a countryside location in late
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  Speaker 2: October this year, firing shotguns and moving in what has
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  Speaker 2: been described as a tactical manner. The pair allegedly carried
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  Speaker 2: out a reconnaissance mission to Bondai only two days prior
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  Speaker 2: to the attack, where they traveled to Archer Park and
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  Speaker 2: walked along the footbridge.
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  Speaker 3: That was on December twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Police alleged they were seen walking out of their camp
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  Speaker 2: see rental shortly after two am on December fourteen and
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  Speaker 2: allegedly transported three guns, three pipe bombs and a tennis
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  Speaker 2: ball bomb to Bondi. It's also alleged the acroms through
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  Speaker 2: bombs at the crowd, but thankfully they did not detonate.
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  Speaker 2: Now the evidence includes claims that the father and son
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  Speaker 2: draped ice as flags in their car before carrying out
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  Speaker 2: the atrocity. Joining me now is Nationals MP Michael McCormack. Michael,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. It does sound
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  Speaker 2: like the alleged attack was planned months in advance.
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  Speaker 3: When you see images like that, what's your reaction?
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  Speaker 2: But also how can the Prime Minister seriously reject a
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  Speaker 2: royal commission and not want to get to the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of everything that's occurred when these sorts of court documents
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  Speaker 2: are being tended.
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  Speaker 12: Well, when I see images at that, it sickens me
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  Speaker 12: to the stomach, as it does to every female Australian,
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  Speaker 12: to everyone who is now mourning. When they see that,
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  Speaker 12: they just wonder why, they ask themselves, why isn't the
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  Speaker 12: Prime Minister calling, wanting, even demanding a royal commission. And
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  Speaker 12: then when Susan Lee and Julian Lisa and Bridget Mackenzie
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  Speaker 12: and Andrew Waller stand up and call for a royal commission,
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  Speaker 12: why does then Chris Bowen have to cut in on that,
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  Speaker 12: have to have a presser at the same time and
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  Speaker 12: make some energy announcement, an energy announcement that could have waited,
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  Speaker 12: an energy announswer that didn't need to be made today.
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  Speaker 12: So lacking indecency and common courtesy. What has labor got
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  Speaker 12: to hide? What has the government got to hide by
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  Speaker 12: not having a Royal commission? We need one, We desperately
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  Speaker 12: need one. It's not just Josh Bridenberg and Ed Husick
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  Speaker 12: and Mike Freelander and the Rabbis and everyone else.
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  Speaker 3: It just it's everyday.
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  Speaker 12: Ordinary Australians who are seeking a royal commission and nothing
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  Speaker 12: less is sufficient.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're right, and you make a good point. Chris
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  Speaker 2: Bowen was trotted out to the media earlier today for
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  Speaker 2: an announcement on a gas reservation scheme in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a national crisis. He was left to field questions
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  Speaker 2: about the Bondai massacre before the Prime Minister finally showed
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  Speaker 2: his face late this afternoon. I thought the timing of
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  Speaker 2: that press conference was shocking. You must have heard Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Abernezi apologize today and at the same time, the Foreign Minister,
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  Speaker 2: Penny Wong said that she regrets the way that her
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  Speaker 2: trip to Israel was experienced after she avoided the sites
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  Speaker 2: of the harmasatrosities.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 6: I regret thought the way in which people have experienced that.
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  Speaker 6: What I would say to you is that I met
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  Speaker 6: instead with hostage families. I met instead with people who
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  Speaker 6: had either lost their children or father or who were
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  Speaker 6: waiting for news of them.
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  Speaker 2: Michael, should we accept the apologies and regret from Labor.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I don't doubt that the Prime Minister and the
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  Speaker 12: Foreign Affairs Minister are shocked as everyone is. I don't
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  Speaker 12: doubt that for a moment. But it's all well and
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  Speaker 12: good to use these words now, to say sorry now.
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  Speaker 12: But for two years people have demanded action. For two years,
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  Speaker 12: Jewish Australians have said they don't feel safe. For two years,
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  Speaker 12: we've had armed guards minding schools, we had armed guards.
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  Speaker 12: Seven police squad cars turn up to a cricket junior
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  Speaker 12: practice last week in Melbourne. In Melbourne, a long way
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  Speaker 12: from Bondi, Jewish Australians have not felt safe and then
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  Speaker 12: we've seen the likes of Justice Belinda Riggan. I hope
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  Speaker 12: this is part of a Royal commission too allow that
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  Speaker 12: August three Sydney harbor Bridge protests to take place, where
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  Speaker 12: ICE's flags were waived, where hateful, hateful words were spoken.
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  Speaker 12: And this has gone on, albeit not as large as
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  Speaker 12: the Sydney harbor Bridge protest, but on a week fleet basis.
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  Speaker 12: Our police have done everything that they can and then
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  Speaker 12: they were criticized, unforgivably unwarranted. Their actions at Bondi were
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  Speaker 12: criticized by some. Australians need to take a good, long,
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  Speaker 12: hard look at themselves. We need to take our country back.
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  Speaker 12: Islamic radicalism and extremism has pervaded our society and it's
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  Speaker 12: time those in power called it out for what it
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  Speaker 12: is and stop it from creeping like a cancer across
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  Speaker 12: Australian society in the future. Nothing short of a Royal
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  Speaker 12: commission will be anywhere near sufficient.
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  Speaker 2: Look absolutely, and again, radical Islam was just not mentioned
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  Speaker 2: at all by the Prime Minister today, yet he's tightening
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  Speaker 2: hate speech laws announcing changes to gun laws. The other issue,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Michael, is the migration system. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: have brought people into this country, some who hate us
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  Speaker 2: and some who.
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  Speaker 3: Hate our values.
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  Speaker 2: I look at Switzerland, They've got a probationary period of
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  Speaker 2: ten years of unblemish conduct. So serious breaches of residency
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  Speaker 2: conditions during that time are results in visa cancelations and
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  Speaker 2: deportation for adults and their kids back to their country
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  Speaker 2: of origin, which I think is great.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't we have tough laws like this?
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  Speaker 2: So what would you be now expecting when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to the migration system in this country.
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  Speaker 12: Absolutely we need to clamp down on our borders. Absolutely
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  Speaker 12: we do. And then when we invite three thousand gardens
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  Speaker 12: from strife torn Middle East in what does Tony Burke do?
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  Speaker 12: He rushes out to the airport for a photo op
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  Speaker 12: and greets them.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm not.
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  Speaker 12: Quite sure that the proper security vetting has taken place
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  Speaker 12: on those three thousand. I'm not sure that is taken
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  Speaker 12: in place. But just getting back to the gun Isshoe,
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  Speaker 12: I received hundreds upon hundreds Saneka emails today, phone calls,
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  Speaker 12: many many of them from law abiding farmers who are
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  Speaker 12: desperately worried that they are now being targeted. They are
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  Speaker 12: now being told that they are have done something wrong
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  Speaker 12: by having firearms to read their farms of pigs and rabbits, etc.
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  Speaker 12: And country people are sick of being made the scapegoat.
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  Speaker 12: The scapegoat is radical Islam. That's who should be, That's
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  Speaker 12: what should be called out. And our migration policies where
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  Speaker 12: we've imported on two hundred and twenty one people every day,
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  Speaker 12: that was the figure not so long ago. Goodness knows
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  Speaker 12: what it is now and enough's enough, Enough is enough.
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  Speaker 12: People are so hurt. I was at Yas last night
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  Speaker 12: and so many of the community members turned out. It
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  Speaker 12: was bucketing down rain as it was in BONDI tears
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  Speaker 12: from God probably, but they were so upset, and they
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  Speaker 12: were also so upset at the government's inaction. And I
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  Speaker 12: think to a person they were saying, call for a
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  Speaker 12: royal commission. Get a royal commission.
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  Speaker 2: It's that simple, Get a royal commission. And I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to speak to Mary Pearlstein after the break later on.
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  Speaker 3: She's calling for a role commission.
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  Speaker 2: She's put forward a change dot org petition, and I
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  Speaker 2: would urge everybody to sign up. You know, if you
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  Speaker 2: believe in this and the Prime Minister wants to wish
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  Speaker 2: this all the way Michael McCormack, this is the thing.
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  Speaker 2: He wants it to be gone so he can return
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  Speaker 2: next year. It's not going to go away because this
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  Speaker 2: is so important to get to the bottom of fifteen
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  Speaker 2: innocent people.
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: Have a kid, little Matilda. If nothing else, we owe
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: to that poor little girl. Can you imagine the Christmas
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: that her family are going to be enduring this year
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: and quite frankly every day from now on, every day,
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: poor little Matilda, we owe it to her.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: At least I completely agree the poor Matilda. You know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a ten year old goes to the beach for a celebration. Unbelievable.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Michael McCormack, thank you so much for joining me. Really
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Well, let's bring in my first panel. Now
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: joining me is former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and One Nation Senator Sean Bell.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Thanks to both of you for joining me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the tensions that hit boiling
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: point at the memorial service in Bondai last night. He's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a reminder, Michael, the Prime Minister would have been ready
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for this I mean he's avoided Bondai like the plague
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: for the last week. But this goes beyond politics, doesn't it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: This is genuine and sheer frustration.
• 21:30
  Speaker 13: No.
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: Absolutely, Look, Denika, he was warned for two years, this
• 21:35
  Speaker 14: blake for two years. He was worn by the Jewish community,
• 21:40
  Speaker 14: and he did very little. This is a bloke that
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: couldn't even keep his own electorate office open because he
• 21:46
  Speaker 14: was so fearful of offending pro Palestinian demonstrators. His own
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: electorate office couldn't be opened. Why would anyone think he
• 21:54
  Speaker 14: could defend the Jewish community, which we now know he
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: couldn't and can't.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: He won't a.
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: Royal commission, for goodness sake, any leader we had, We
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: had royal commissions into pink bats for goodness sake. This
• 22:07
  Speaker 14: guy is just an international pariah. He's a prior in
• 22:11
  Speaker 14: this country. Jewish families don't want to have a bar
• 22:14
  Speaker 14: of him. Australians are sick of him. In a moment
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: of great national crisis, we get a diminished leader who
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: should resign. I mean he should resign. I mean his
• 22:26
  Speaker 14: performance has been appalling. Chris Min's on the other hand,
• 22:30
  Speaker 14: Kelly Slan, but peticularly, Mins, because he's the Premier, has
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: been outstanding and rightfully he was cheered last night at
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: the visual because he's done an exceptional job.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Well, he's basically the bas the prime Minister of the country.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: In credit where it's due, Chris Mins has been exceptional
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in a crisis right now, while the Prime Minister has
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: firstly been in Canberra for most of last week, not
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: at the scene, not in BONDI not having the courage
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to even turn up. I mean, no wonder there were
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: boos yesterday. What does this say?
• 23:05
  Speaker 15: I think it says that people are fed up and
• 23:08
  Speaker 15: disgusted by what is probably the worst failure of leadership
• 23:13
  Speaker 15: I've seen in my entire life. And if the Prime
• 23:16
  Speaker 15: Minister doesn't like being booed, then I think you better
• 23:19
  Speaker 15: get used to it, because I from his continued failure,
• 23:22
  Speaker 15: the boos are only going to get louder. And I've
• 23:25
  Speaker 15: seen some people from the Labor Party sort of act
• 23:29
  Speaker 15: shocked and dismayed at the booze. Well, I've got a
• 23:31
  Speaker 15: message for them. They are not the victims here.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 15: People being booed is the least of our concerns. What
• 23:37
  Speaker 15: we've got is a country that is now struggling in
• 23:41
  Speaker 15: the aftermath of the worst ever terrorist attack, and we've
• 23:44
  Speaker 15: got a government that cannot even name the cause, which
• 23:49
  Speaker 15: was radical Islamic terror. And not only can they not
• 23:51
  Speaker 15: name it, they won't take the necessary action to deal
• 23:54
  Speaker 15: with it. They can't even call a Royal commission, which
• 23:57
  Speaker 15: is the least they could do.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Exactly. I mean, we need to get to the bottom
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: of this.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: If the Prime Minister can't even speak about radical Islam,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: then nothing's ever going to get solved. Let's talk about
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the changes to the gun laws New South Wales Labor
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: recall Parliament today introducing gun reform as well as protest reforms.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: But there's a coalition split on that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: The Liberals are backing the bill but condemning it as
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: weak and poorly consulted. The National is rejecting it outright
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: as failing to tackle anti Semitism or the causes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Of that attack. Michael, fake solutions or a good move.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's generally speaking a good move.
• 24:38
  Speaker 14: Obviously, farmers feel aggrieved, sporting students feel aggrieved, and this
• 24:42
  Speaker 14: has got echoes of what happened after Port Arthur, But
• 24:45
  Speaker 14: generally speaking means is on the right track. You know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 14: he's consulted with the Jewish community. He's talked about radical
• 24:55
  Speaker 14: Islamic terrorism being the problem. He's dealing with anti Semitism,
• 24:58
  Speaker 14: with demonstration laws, with move on laws, with mask etc.
• 25:01
  Speaker 14: Any's and don't forget right, don't forget about Mins. He's
• 25:06
  Speaker 14: got the same you know branches within the New South
• 25:10
  Speaker 14: Wales ALP that Tony Burke and Jason Clair have got.
• 25:15
  Speaker 14: I mean, they've got large numbers of Muslim voters in
• 25:18
  Speaker 14: the ALP. They're the same labor members who would be
• 25:21
  Speaker 14: opposing what Chris Mins is doing. So credit to Mins
• 25:24
  Speaker 14: for standing up to these people. I just hope he
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: appoints a good Royal Commissioner in New South Wales, because
• 25:32
  Speaker 14: that's important. Someone like Justice Michael Lee, who did the
• 25:35
  Speaker 14: who did the Brittney Higgins liam and case, who I
• 25:38
  Speaker 14: heard give a speech earlier in the year on anti Semitism.
• 25:41
  Speaker 14: He understands. This guy Lee understands anti Semitism. Let's hope
• 25:45
  Speaker 14: someone like him gets appointed the Royal Commissioner because Albanese
• 25:49
  Speaker 14: he won't call a Royal commission. He's appointed David Gonsky
• 25:53
  Speaker 14: to do the Educational Anti Semitism Review I'm sorry to
• 25:57
  Speaker 14: say this. I don't think David Gonsky is the right person.
• 26:00
  Speaker 14: I don't think David's anymore a leader in the Jewish community.
• 26:03
  Speaker 14: I've hardly heard a word from him in the last
• 26:04
  Speaker 14: two years. To be quite frank, he should have appointed
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: someone like Alex Rivkin, who's been stunningly brave. He should
• 26:12
  Speaker 14: be the person that the federal government appointed. So no
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: one's got any confidence Danika in the federal government, their reviews,
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: their appointees. When you haven't seen the Foreign Minister appear
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: on television for a week, you know something's wrong.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: She's avoiding it at all costs, and it's easy just
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to call in on ABC radio and give the usual line.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Why not actually have a press conference and explain yourself properly.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: We know why, we know why, we know.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Why, we do know why.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: On a federal level, Sean Anthony Albanese is yet to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: recall Parliament now it's my understanding that he's likely to
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: do that by mid January. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: has been very about Radical Islam. She won't be in
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: parliament should it be recalled in January because she's still
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: suspended of course for wearing the burker later late this year,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But hasn't she proven why there needs to be an
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: open debate on this issue of radical Islam.
• 27:19
  Speaker 15: That's exactly right. Since she was re elected to since
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: she was brought back to Parliament twenty sixteen, no one
• 27:26
  Speaker 15: has been more vocal on the threat posed to Australia
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: by radical Islamic extremism than Senator Hansen, and no one's
• 27:33
  Speaker 15: been more open to listening to the Jewish community's concerns.
• 27:37
  Speaker 15: And if you look at the record, will show that
• 27:38
  Speaker 15: in twenty twenty three, Senator Hansen wore a Jewish prayer
• 27:41
  Speaker 15: shawl and gave a speech in Parliament standing in solidarity
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: with the Australian Jewish community. In twenty twenty four she
• 27:48
  Speaker 15: wore a Jewish scarf and she was also kicked out
• 27:50
  Speaker 15: of the Senate for that. And so you know, to
• 27:53
  Speaker 15: see her then banned again for attempting to introduce legislation.
• 27:57
  Speaker 15: She wasn't going to debate it, she just wanted to
• 27:59
  Speaker 15: introduce it to deal with the rift you see in
• 28:03
  Speaker 15: our community caused by the burker and the security risk
• 28:08
  Speaker 15: course by full face coverings. For them to then ban
• 28:10
  Speaker 15: her for seven days and then recall Parliament to debate
• 28:14
  Speaker 15: some of the very issues that she was warning about.
• 28:17
  Speaker 15: Without her being there would be totally inappropriate. So we
• 28:20
  Speaker 15: will be asking the other parties and the Senate to
• 28:23
  Speaker 15: overturn that band to allow her to contribute, as all
• 28:27
  Speaker 15: elected members should be allowed to contribute on extremely important
• 28:30
  Speaker 15: matters such as this.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: No, I look absolutely, I think it warrants an open debate, absolutely, Michael.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I want to play some audio today of the Home
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Affairs Minister Tony Burke again avoiding radical Islam altogether and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: focusing on neo Nazis.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Have a listen.
• 28:50
  Speaker 16: I've spoken before about my disgust for a very long
• 28:53
  Speaker 16: time at organizations like his book Career and the Nationalist
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: Socialist Network otherwise known as the Neo Nazi. These organizations,
• 29:02
  Speaker 16: for a long time have been able to take hate
• 29:05
  Speaker 16: right to the threshold without using the words violence and
• 29:09
  Speaker 16: escape any further terrorists listing Michael.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Is this misplaced? Again?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: This misplaced, focusing on the wrong topic in the middle
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: of a crisis like this.
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: Well, thenkra I give him credit. At least he didn't
• 29:25
  Speaker 14: equate anti Semitism with Islamophobia for the first time in
• 29:30
  Speaker 14: two years. I mean, how many times have we heard that?
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: I mean, look, Tony, Tony Burke's performance has been utterly appalling.
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: I mean the three Albanesi, Wog and Burke. I mean,
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: these people have taken over the Labor Party right. They've
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: taken over the Labor Party from the moderate right of
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: the Labor Party, the Richard Males, the old Conroy Hawk group,
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: Michael Ese and Bill Shorten, you know, the trade mister Farrell,
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: all of the reasonable decent labor men as the Beasleys
• 30:00
  Speaker 14: of the past right, the people who were the backbone
• 30:03
  Speaker 14: of labor and got Labor elected, They've been captured by
• 30:06
  Speaker 14: these three extremists. There are nutters, anti Jewish, Nazi nutters
• 30:12
  Speaker 14: running around Melbourne and New South Wales, holding up their
• 30:15
  Speaker 14: flags and having their stupid meetings, and let's praise the
• 30:19
  Speaker 14: governments of whatever persuasion for banning their symbols and their
• 30:22
  Speaker 14: chanting and whatever. But to sort of keep trying to say,
• 30:26
  Speaker 14: I mean, Burke won't utter the words Islamic terrorism, right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 14: His branches have been stacked by Muslims. We all know this,
• 30:33
  Speaker 14: many of them good good hearted Australians who don't know
• 30:35
  Speaker 14: why they've been stacked into the Labor Party.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: They're called ethnic.
• 30:38
  Speaker 14: Branch stacking, and that's what's happened in his electorate and
• 30:41
  Speaker 14: two or three other electorates to New South Wales. Burke
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: is too afraid to call out Islamic terrorism on a
• 30:46
  Speaker 14: regular basis. Occasionally it's dropped into the conversation to satisfy
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: the public so he can refer to it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But in the end Burke is completely.
• 30:55
  Speaker 14: Wrongheaded on this and everybody knows it, and so is
• 30:58
  Speaker 14: Wong and so is Alban Easy.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Well, the more they did that on radical Islam, then
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: nothing will ever change, Nothing will ever change.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: We've seen it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We saw it with the murder of Curtis Cheng, We've
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: seen it with the Link Cafe. I mean, how much
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: more here in Australia do we need to take? Michael
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Krogo Shan Bell got to leave it there. Thank you
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: so much for joining me on the show. Appreciate it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, I'll speak to an advocate
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: who started a petition calling for a royal commission into
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the massacre. Plus Victorian Premier just Into Alan unveils her
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: plan to tackle anti Semitism, But will she actually tackle
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the hate being spewed in her state during violent anti
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Israel rallies.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: That's coming up. Welcome back.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Let's return now to those wide ranging calls for a
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: royal commission into the massacre at Bondai. Marnie Pearlstein is
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a passionate member of the Sydney Jewish community and has
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: been a fierce advocate against anti Semitism since the attacks
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: on October seven, and she joins me now. Marny, so
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Thank you. You have started a change
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: dot org petition calling for a royal commission. Last time
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I checked, it had over five thousand signatures.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Why do you feel so strongly about.
• 32:06
  Speaker 13: This, Jananka, thanks for having me. I feel that the
• 32:10
  Speaker 13: deadliest terrorist attack on Australian soil warrants the very highest
• 32:16
  Speaker 13: level of independent inquiry, and quite frankly, I think that
• 32:21
  Speaker 13: to the families of the fifteen people who died last week,
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: and to our entire Jewish community who has lived with
• 32:29
  Speaker 13: untold horror for two years, it is the least that
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: the Albanese government can do. The Richardson review only really
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: covers federal law enforcement and federal intelligence, and it leaves
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: out many areas that need to be properly investigated to
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: understand how we.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Got to where we got to.
• 32:48
  Speaker 13: It leaves out education and everything that's been happening at
• 32:51
  Speaker 13: universities and schools, Katari funding that has gone into universities
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: in this country for decades, BDS counters that have been
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: on every university campus spreading radical Islamic ideology through our
• 33:05
  Speaker 13: education system. It leaves out the arts and the number
• 33:08
  Speaker 13: of people who are losing jobs and who have been boycotted.
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: It leaves out immigration and the Isis brides who have
• 33:16
  Speaker 13: just returned, the three thousand gardens who are allowed into
• 33:20
  Speaker 13: this country with minimal security checks. It leaves out all
• 33:24
  Speaker 13: of these things that need to be looked into and
• 33:28
  Speaker 13: that our community needs answers to.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Look I couldn't agree more.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: And I note that the Coalition released their draft terms
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of a Royal Commission, which did include the art sector,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: included media departmental reviews. It's meant to be I mean,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a Royal commission is the highest level, it's meant to
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: be the most wide ranging. The Prime Minister was asked today,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: why won't you do it? He said, it's because of
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the urgency that his review is going to be quicker.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Do you buy that money.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Or is he worried about what a Royal commission might uncover?
• 34:00
  Speaker 13: I think he is clearly worried about what a Royal
• 34:03
  Speaker 13: commission might uncover, and he should be worried about what
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: a Royal commission would uncover. After two years of inaction,
• 34:11
  Speaker 13: after a year of having Gillian Siegel's recommendations on his
• 34:16
  Speaker 13: desk and not taking up one of them, he should
• 34:19
  Speaker 13: be incredibly worried about what the Royal Commission would uncover.
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: And quite frankly, his talk about sort of rolling it
• 34:27
  Speaker 13: into the new South Wales Royal Commission is insane. He
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: needs to do a Commonwealth Royal Commission and uncover at
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: federal level everything that has led up to this moment
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: on his watch over the last two years.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Look absolutely, and look I would implore people to sign
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: your petition because it's very clear that the Prime Minister
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: is hoping that this goes away. He's been missing in
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: action for the last seven days on a you know
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it's not going to go away, Prime Minister.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: It's changed dot org. It's called call for a Commonwealth
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Royal Commission into the Bondi Beach alleged terror attack.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I would implore people to sign up money and good
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: on you for starting it. We've got the details there
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: up on our screen.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I've got to ask you.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister today apologized to the Jewish community. You're
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: a member of this community. Do you accept his apology.
• 35:21
  Speaker 13: I want to be a big person. I want to
• 35:23
  Speaker 13: be like an Erica Kirk and accept people's apologies when
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: they are kind and cognizant enough to issue one. But honestly, Danika,
• 35:34
  Speaker 13: his apology does not bring back fifteen dead Australians. His
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: apology doesn't heal people who are still in hospital fighting
• 35:43
  Speaker 13: for their lives. It doesn't help the families who have
• 35:46
  Speaker 13: lost loved ones, and it doesn't put the antisemitism genie
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: back into the bottle. And quite frankly, it doesn't make
• 35:55
  Speaker 13: up for two years of complete inaction when there have
• 35:58
  Speaker 13: been journalists like yourselves, politicians and advocates who have been
• 36:04
  Speaker 13: screaming and yelling about this situation. We have named the problem,
• 36:09
  Speaker 13: we have talked about radical Islamic ideology on our shores,
• 36:13
  Speaker 13: and his apology really does not make up for any
• 36:16
  Speaker 13: of that. And in terms of the petition, I appreciate
• 36:19
  Speaker 13: you mentioning it so much because the very reason that
• 36:24
  Speaker 13: I created the petition this morning was so that this
• 36:27
  Speaker 13: problem doesn't go away, and so that he's not able
• 36:31
  Speaker 13: to issue an apology and just let Christmas and New
• 36:34
  Speaker 13: Year come along and have this whole thing disappear. Because
• 36:37
  Speaker 13: it's very easy to make an apology. But we are
• 36:41
  Speaker 13: all as a country, not just the Jewish community. We
• 36:44
  Speaker 13: are hurting so much and we need to turn our
• 36:48
  Speaker 13: pain into purpose, and the only way we can really
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: do that is to get some very serious answers. So
• 36:56
  Speaker 13: sorry is not going to cut it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: It's just not no. Look, I completely agree.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I just want to very quickly ask you about former
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Treasurer Wayne Swan. He reposted this tweet on X Today
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: which said Jewish people boo elbow on a arrival at
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Bondi vigil, but they support Ntnyahu, who allowed twelve hundred
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Israelis to be slaughtered by Hamas then murdered seventy thousand
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: innocent people in Gaza. It's beyond belief that such hypocrisy
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: can become respectable. He's retweeted that how tone deaf is that?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: MANI it's offensive.
• 37:29
  Speaker 17: There's three things I want to say about that. There's
• 37:31
  Speaker 17: actually six things I could say, but I'm sure we
• 37:33
  Speaker 17: don't have time, so I'll just say, firstly, does he
• 37:35
  Speaker 17: realize that three hours before Anthony Alberanesi walked into that
• 37:39
  Speaker 17: vigil for fifteen murdered Australians, that Anthony Alberanzi had just
• 37:45
  Speaker 17: announced the Richardson Review rather than the Commonwealth Independent Inquiry.
• 37:54
  Speaker 13: So the timing of Anthony Albanesi turning up to that
• 37:59
  Speaker 13: event was was also really tone dead.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: The second thing I want.
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: To say to Wayne Swan is that there were twenty
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: thousand people at Bondi Beach last night, not all of
• 38:08
  Speaker 13: them were Jewish, and plenty of the people booing Anthony
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: Albanesi were not Jewish. The Australian public has had a
• 38:15
  Speaker 13: gut full of these weekly protests, of our resources having
• 38:20
  Speaker 13: to be spent on police surveillance, of these protests on
• 38:24
  Speaker 13: social unrest.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: That has just blown up.
• 38:27
  Speaker 13: But the third thing I want to say is that
• 38:29
  Speaker 13: there is another petition out there this week which is
• 38:32
  Speaker 13: calling for Anthony Albanesi to resign, and so far three
• 38:36
  Speaker 13: hundred and seven thousand people have signed that petition. Deneka,
• 38:41
  Speaker 13: there are only one hundred and twenty thousand Jewish people
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: in Australia. So this is not a matter of Jewish
• 38:47
  Speaker 13: people booing and heckling our prime minister. We are now
• 38:51
  Speaker 13: talking about a country that is feeling very angry with
• 38:57
  Speaker 13: our current government and Wayne Swan needs to take into
• 39:00
  Speaker 13: account for he criticizes our community in terms of the
• 39:06
  Speaker 13: Netanyahu government has been completely held to account in that country.
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: There will protests week after week for a year before
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: the October seven attacks. There is a full investigation happening
• 39:18
  Speaker 13: into October seven. The Israelis are holding their prime minister
• 39:23
  Speaker 13: to account and we need to do the same with ours.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I'm with you all the way.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Money, you know, I think that that is phenomenal more
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: than three hundred thousand, and are reminded to our viewers
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  Speaker 2: your petition change dot org petition calling for Commonwealth Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commission into the Bondai Beach terror attacks. So important and
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  Speaker 2: well done on all your advocacy. It's so important on
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  Speaker 2: this money. Thank you so much for joining me on
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  Speaker 2: the show. Really appreciate it. Coming up after the break,
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has spent the past four years demonizing gas,
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  Speaker 2: yet today announces plans for an East Coast gas reserve.
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  Speaker 3: That and more with my panel next well.
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  Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, the new South Wales Premier Chris
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  Speaker 2: Mins recall Parliament today as he seeks to pass a
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  Speaker 2: suite of restrictions, including protest restrictions, in the wake of
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  Speaker 2: BONDI joining me now is senior fellow of the Menzies
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  Speaker 2: Research Center, Nick Cata.
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  Speaker 3: Nick, thank you so much for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I personally take objection to peaceful rallies being banned,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what's likely to occur here. You know that
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  Speaker 2: the anti mass migration rallies that we even saw yesterday
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  Speaker 2: led by Barnaby Joyce, would be targeted.
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  Speaker 3: Under these laws.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm more angry at the fact that there's a
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  Speaker 2: bigger issue at play that's been danced around, and that
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  Speaker 2: is radical Islam. In your view, are protest laws justified
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  Speaker 2: given the circumstances, And how much have these pro Palestine
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  Speaker 2: rallies contributed to the anti Semitism?
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  Speaker 18: I think hugely, Denise, And they've also contributed incidentally to
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  Speaker 18: the concern about migration, because these are not the kind
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  Speaker 18: of people we expect to come to this country. I
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  Speaker 18: wouldn't know, by the way, how many of them are
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  Speaker 18: actually Australian citizens, because I think if you're not a
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  Speaker 18: Hosti Alian citizen, if you haven't become an Australian citizen,
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  Speaker 18: therefore you can participate by voting. I don't think you
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  Speaker 18: should be allowed to participate in our democracy with a
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  Speaker 18: noisy demonstration and a megaphone.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not right.
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  Speaker 18: But look, I understand what Chris Means has been doing,
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  Speaker 18: and you would think that these anti Palatine, these pro
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  Speaker 18: Palestinian rallies, these people would, out of decency, just be
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  Speaker 18: keeping themselves themselves, perhaps going along to the movies, watching Nuremberg,
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  Speaker 18: they might learn a bit more about why the state
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  Speaker 18: of Israel exists. But no, they've got no manners, no taste.
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  Speaker 18: So I do think it's right for Chris Means to
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  Speaker 18: be more restrictive on public demonstrations. You can have a
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  Speaker 18: public demonstration if you go through the process. It's always
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  Speaker 18: been that way, Denita. It's not a case of putting
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  Speaker 18: regulations on. It's always been the way that you need
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  Speaker 18: police permision. And as I remember that that famous one
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  Speaker 18: back on October nine in twenty twenty three at the
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  Speaker 18: Opera House, they were told they didn't have a mission
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  Speaker 18: to mark to the Opera House. They were protesting illegally.
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  Speaker 18: I'd like to see the police really enforce those laws.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wells plus is also on incumbent on the courts as well,
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  Speaker 2: because the courts in New South Wales and Victoria have
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  Speaker 2: also let some of these go ahead and they've turned
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  Speaker 2: out to be violent.
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  Speaker 3: Let's change out the topic now. I want to ask you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, I want to ask you about Chris Bowen. Firstly,
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  Speaker 2: I think highly inappropriate for the government to be announcing
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  Speaker 2: a gas reservation scheme on a daylight today, after a
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  Speaker 2: week that we've just had. But Chris Bowln was out
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  Speaker 2: today announcing that he will force producers to set aside
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  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty five percent of gas for domestic use
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  Speaker 2: from twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Nick. This is extraordinary because.
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  Speaker 2: The minister in charge has spent the past four years
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  Speaker 2: demonizing gas. The Coalition put this plan forward during the
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  Speaker 2: election and Chris Bowen mocked it, and now he's come
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  Speaker 2: out and announced a reservation scheme of his own.
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  Speaker 3: What do you make of it?
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  Speaker 18: Which does show what trouble Albany is in right now.
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  Speaker 18: If this announcement by Chris Bowen was indeed to distract
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  Speaker 18: from the Bondai event and the fallout from that. Then
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  Speaker 18: it's desperation, isn't it. You put in your worst performing
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  Speaker 18: minister on one of the most contentious topics to try
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  Speaker 18: and distract from Bondai is just not believable. But you know,
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  Speaker 18: as to the substance of what he had to say,
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  Speaker 18: a gas reservation policy is an admission of failure.
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  Speaker 1: We have got so much gas.
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  Speaker 18: The under Australian continent and in the waters, in our
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  Speaker 18: territorial waters that you you know it would last for
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  Speaker 18: hundreds of years at the current rate.
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  Speaker 1: There is no shortage of gas.
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  Speaker 18: What there is is a shortage of will by the
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  Speaker 18: government to let people get it out. And there's lots sure,
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  Speaker 18: there's lots and lots of energy companies and wanting to
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  Speaker 18: get that gas out of the ground held up by
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  Speaker 18: red tape. I can't help thinking that if alban Easy
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  Speaker 18: and Bowen had spent about a quarter of the attention
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  Speaker 18: on putting in new gas pipelines that they've spent on
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  Speaker 18: transmission lines and all this other stuff, we will be
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  Speaker 18: in a much better position. Now We've be in a position,
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  Speaker 18: for instance, to get gas down from the Beaterloo basin
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  Speaker 18: where there are huge, huge, reserves and you know, all
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  Speaker 18: this is available. We shouldn't have to be telling producers
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  Speaker 18: that you can't export gas.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that gas should be going.
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  Speaker 18: I'm sure it should be earning us export dollars, not
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  Speaker 18: being you know, we should. We've got plenty of gas.
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  Speaker 1: That's the issue here, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, no, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: We're literally sitting on such an abundance of it. What
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  Speaker 2: are we doing with it? Nick Kateo've going to leave
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  Speaker 2: it there? Thank you very much for joining me, really
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Coming up after the break, what assurances is
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  Speaker 2: Keir Starmer's labor government offering the British public as a
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: fallout of the Bond II tacker.
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  Speaker 3: Felt across the UK insticks welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Let's head across the UK where the impact of the
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  Speaker 2: attacking BONDI continues to reverberate. Joining us now is Sky
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  Speaker 2: News contributor Adriane Hayes.
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  Speaker 3: Adrian, appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: Police over there and now cracking down on the chant
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  Speaker 2: globalize the into FATA. Why is it taken an alleged
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  Speaker 2: terror attack for that hideous phrase to be cracked down upon?
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  Speaker 19: Well, yeah, there's two ways to look at this. Down
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  Speaker 19: I mean one is that you know, there's the police
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  Speaker 19: and governments are doing that are again guilty of the
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  Speaker 19: do something sort of attack. But we've got to do
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  Speaker 19: something whereas you know, but they're be chasing the tail.
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  Speaker 19: Carry on, where do you you know, globalize the infidata.
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  Speaker 19: It could be another phase where do you stop up
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  Speaker 19: this whole thing? And I think the police are two
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  Speaker 19: tier police and got themselves in a little bit of
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  Speaker 19: twizz and they're not even Australia, not in UK, across Europe,
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  Speaker 19: not dealing with the main problem, which is the radicalization
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  Speaker 19: that's taking place in the Mosques and everywhere, which places
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  Speaker 19: like the Gulf and the Ue where I've lived many years,
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  Speaker 19: have sort of something they've been urging and governments has
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  Speaker 19: sort this out at its root.
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  Speaker 1: Cause.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're shying away everywhere. Right now, let's change tack.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about net zero. It appears
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  Speaker 2: that more corporates are either watering down or completely abandoning
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  Speaker 2: their pledgurees to cut carbon emissions.
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  Speaker 3: Look it sounds like a retreat from net zero. Adrian, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 19: Think people are suddenly waking up is that there is
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  Speaker 19: no solution to any problems that we face the world.
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  Speaker 19: Everything is a trade off, and the trade offs are
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  Speaker 19: becoming pretty clear to see. We have the highest electricity
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  Speaker 19: price in the world. We're doing this virtue. Think we're
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  Speaker 19: importing carbon emissions from outsize and I think it's where
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  Speaker 19: you know, people seeing the net zero for what it is.
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  Speaker 19: It's a mixture of ideology and money coming together to
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  Speaker 19: form this uneasy I would call it a cult. And
• 46:44
  Speaker 19: I speak as a passionate environmentalist. What I would say,
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  Speaker 19: we've got to reclaim environmental protection against this net zero
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  Speaker 19: sort of agenda, which is, as you say, it's becoming
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  Speaker 19: gradually watered down, which I think is.
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  Speaker 1: A good thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean here in Australia it's sending us oken backwards.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that the costs are certainly mounting up
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  Speaker 2: across the UK. Even here, more and more businesses are
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: saying it's just not viable to to go net zero.
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  Speaker 2: When you've got big miners like BHP making those sorts
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  Speaker 2: of decisions, it's huge. Look, we've got to we've got
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the ashes, of course, Adrian, I can't
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  Speaker 2: let you go without talking about that. How has England's
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  Speaker 2: abysmal defense of the ashes been received over in the UK.
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  Speaker 19: Yes, it's been lovely to speak to you, Danaka, but
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  Speaker 19: I'm sorry I must go anyway. We Yes, it's been
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  Speaker 19: it's been slammed as you as you'd expected, so you know,
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  Speaker 19: lack of preparation, lack of middle order batting, lack of bowling.
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  Speaker 19: With a few exceptions, I mean Stokes, bend Stokes like
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  Speaker 19: captain has been carrying the can. But I do think
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  Speaker 19: you know you Assi's must take credit. You've got a
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  Speaker 19: fantastic team there and they already showed England to what
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  Speaker 19: they are. So it's been pretty scathing. We'll wait for
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  Speaker 19: the next series at a couple of years time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: But I did find it funny all the all the
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  Speaker 2: English players they jetted off into final queen Land up
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  Speaker 2: and noos.
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  Speaker 3: So that they already had their break.
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  Speaker 2: They were pretty much done, wipe their hands and walks
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  Speaker 2: and walked away. Adrian Hay is good to catch up
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  Speaker 2: with you. Thank you so much for joining me on
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  Speaker 2: the show this evening. Really appreciate it and thank you
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  Speaker 2: for your company. I'll be back again filling in for
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Bolt tomorrow night. Stay with us Up next is
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  Speaker 2: the Late Debate good Night