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Ways To Keep Your Kids Safe From Would-Be Kidnappers · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Five minutes after the hour. It is the third hour now of the morning
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Show with Preston Scott. I am literally turning the page on the radio program
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Great Alan running the show inside Studio one A. I'm here in Studio one
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B, and I am joined by co founder of the Talent Training Group,
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co host of Talent Outdoors. And I thought I was gonna wet myself when
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I heard you and Charlie talking the other day about his demonstration and his word
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choice going awry between his telling of the story and you're laughing. I cried
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so hard. I laughed so hard I got I got so tickled. I
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thought were glad to stop. Well, you said that a couple of times.
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I'm I'm done. That was so funny segment two of Saturday's show of
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Talent Outdoors. I was gonna play it, but I decided that I'm gonna
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save that for later in the week to warm up for the new show and
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to promote the new show. Because when you guys get going, it's just
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so magical. Sometimes we get wound up, you know it's funny. I
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gotta talk about something serious or I won't make it through the rest of the
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Sometimes you just gotta change gears. Man, did you have anything or in
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mind or has Charlie started going? Did you just come up with something to
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try to get yourself back on track? Ik' I was tried to come up
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with something. I just added to do something different. You know. It's
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we tell people that we're not radio professionals first and foremost, and it's just
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he and I in there talking. We don't plan, we don't write,
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we don't you're so organized, You've got notes, you literally have pages of
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stuff that you want to talk about, and you have to do that because
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you do, you know, fifteen hours of radio a week. We do
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one. So it's it's just the two of us or the three of us
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with Grant or whoever else is in there, and we just go in there
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and start talking and see where it leads. And sometimes it goes down that
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road to random sophomoric behavior, and we can't help it because guys are basically
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twelve year olds in men's bodies. So well, and if you and Charlie
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Grant and then you're joined by Fred Conrad, you have at least twelve people
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in there because of Fred's unique personalities correct, and you never know what Fred's
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gonna show up, so it could be dressed as a chicken on a given
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day. You just never know about Fred exactly. Anyway, good to see
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understand. Yes, they're doing great, I said to the audience, I
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wanted us to take some pages. You didn't know the stories, I'm gonna
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throw it you here. But there are several stories that I've been holding onto
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that I feel like for us an opportunity. And I've said this before.
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I think these segments, when we get focused on personal defense awareness, certain
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things can save people's lives absolutely. And you know, yeah, we want
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you to go out and practice, head to the talent range and work and
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get some training and all of that. But still story number one. This
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happened early July. A little six year old girl playing in the apartment complex
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courtyard with other kids. The other kids went inside. She wanted to play
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a little bit longer, but had been pulled into a parking lot. Was
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a young man who had been sitting watching. He waited for the young girl
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to be alone. He didn't try to be nice. He grabbed her,
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grabbed her by the arm. When she fought, she got picked up and
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carried away. She bit him so hard he dropped her. Then he slapped
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her, but she regained herself and ran awesome and got away. Children elementary
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school age, what should parents be telling their kids to do what that little
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girl did. Fight as hard as you absolutely can. What we have always
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stressed to our children. My wife and I have always streussed our children.
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If somebody grabs you, if somebody tries to take you away from wherever it
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is you are and you don't know who they are or whatever, bite scratch.
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Talk to your kids about where about where to hit and punch and kick
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and bite. There are certain parts of the of the human anatomy that are
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more sensitive than others, ears, eyes, growing, You know those areas
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the soft the soft targets. If you will um, you know we've we've
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stressed that to them. You kick them as hard as you can in the
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nether regions, or you poke them in the eye, or you pinch them,
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grab their ears, bite their ears, fight like your life depends on
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it. You know, it's a difficult conversation to have with the kid,
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but they have to understand that their chance of survival if they are taken away
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from here and adults, full grown adults, if you are taken away by
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force from wherever it is you are at the moment. Your chances of survival
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are minuscule. Twelve minutes after the our personal defense segment, we're talking about
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our kids right now, our grand kids right now. J D. Johnson
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of the Talent Training Group with me, and you just got a text from
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your wife. Got a text from my wife who's a major at the Talis
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Police Department, And TPD and a lot of other agencies around the country.
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Check with your local law enforcement. They have a program is a national is
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a nationally recognized program. It started out it's called rad ray Progression Defense and
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it's started out in college campuses around the country. They have expanded it.
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TPD offers a self defense class four children under twelve, both both sexes,
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for under twelve um and it's free. It's it's grant funded, So take
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advantage of the grant. Yeah, I'm man, look at you. Grant
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pull them out the big money. Yeah, but it's a great program.
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They they have guys in you know, the guys that dress up in the
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red man suits where the kids can can kick, hit and scratch, uh,
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the big padded suits, right, and they it's practical application kind of
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stuff. We've got a lot of different groups that are out there. We've
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got a lot more parents now than ever driving their kids and picking them up,
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and that's great, But there are still kids that make the walk to
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their elementary school or even their middle school. There are kids that ride the
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bus and have a walk to the bus stop. Um. Some thoughts on
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just that it's that that open that that exposure and vulnerability. Yeah, you
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know, in today's world, it's it's a terrifying thing for a kid to
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be unless you're in a neighborhood where you know that you've got um people out
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and about in the morning, moving around, um, you know, paying
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attention to things. It's it's a scary thought. Um, I see it.
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I see it in our neighborhood with kids waiting at the bus stop.
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You know, if there's multiple kids, the chances are much lower. One
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kid waiting at the bus stop before daylight or in the wee hours of the
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morning or whatever. I don't care how old they are, um is it's
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just terrifying, you know, I see them as an easy victim. Um.
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Even the walk tour from the bus stop is maybe more dangerous because they're
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walking along houses and we don't. We don't. Unfortunately in our society for
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the most part, we don't know our neighbors anymore. And you don't know
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who you might have a bad guy moved in the moved in the house,
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between your house and their house, between your house and the school, sure,
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sure, or your house in the bus stop. But you can pull
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up a map, if I remember correctly, that tells you if there are
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sexual predators in your neighborhood, that they tell you where they live. That's
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correct. They are as part of there. They are required to register their
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address and stuff. If you ever do that, you're going to be shocked.
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You're going to be shocked. Yeah, uh, it's you're gonna be
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like, holy cow, what's all these dots on the map? What would
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your advice be, JD. On that line between awareness and paranoia, man,
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that's a that's it is tough. It's tough. It's tough because and
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I don't you know, I don't. I don't like a Paranoia is a
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bad thing, but awareness is a good thing. And I fear, Yeah,
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I don't want our kids to have fear. No. But the other
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issue that we have today in today's world is more and more kids are getting
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smartphones at younger and younger ages ten eleven, ten eleven years old, and
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if they're like my kids around the house, we let them be on We
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let them on the phone in the house. My youngest daughter's going into the
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eighth grade and her battery stays dead all the time because she's constantly looking at
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videos or listening to music or whatever, paying attention to the phone, not
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necessarily paying attention to what we say now out in the world. That's dangerous
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inside the house. Inside the home, it's not dangerous. It's annoying maybe,
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but it's not dangerous. Would it make sense to have a protocol with
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your kid that when they get off the bus stopperer on their way too,
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they're on the phone with you or pretending. Yeah, And that's not a
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bad idea, you know, that is not a bad idea at all.
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To stay active line, stay on the phone. Active line. They make
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some of these programs, we actually have them. Is basically a tracking system
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on our phone. Life three sixty is the one we use. There's other
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ones out there where you can actually see the location of the phone as long
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as the phone is on back with j D. Johnson of the Talent Training
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Group Lifetime and Law Enforcement, calling on that experience as well as what he
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knows in training and helping people in personal defense circumstances and situations. We talked
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about a little girl who valiantly fought and survived by the way they caught the
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guy. They were able to catch him and he has been arrested. Now,
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we've got a thirteen year old girl from Texas that was walking on the
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side of the road in San Antonio on July sixth when a sixty one year
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old Steven Sablin of Texas drove up beside, pointed a gun at her and
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said, if you don't get in the gun in the car with me,
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I'm going to hurt you. She complied, run explain the reasoning to don't
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give in to the gun being pointed there. There's just well, there's no
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guarantee he can the gun works. We see that a lot in it,
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by the way, was a BB gun. There you go, that's probably
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way more likely than we realize a lot of times. So there's no there's
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no proof that the gun works, that it's a real gun, any of
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that stuff. I would rather take my chances against that guy's marksmanship or lack
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thereof. While seated in a car. Right, if you're outside the car,
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still you can you can move Latterly, you can run away from create
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distance. There's all kind of things you can do. Put some of the
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car. You know, you're talking about a car doors are small opening um,
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moving away from that so that there's some glass or metal between you and
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the and the driver, even if it's even if there's nothing there, I
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would still rather take my chances of getting shot with a handgun than getting taken
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away. This is what I want to drive home to parents. Parents,
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this is what I feel like you've got to be communicating to your kids that
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are in this age. And sadly, even that six year old was about
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to be taken by a sexual predator and high super super I don't I don't
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know percentages, but I would say better than ninety percent chance probably never to
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be seen again if she had been taken away. Do you count on the
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fact that they're likely not going to shoot if for no other reason to well,
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not just the attention JD. But that's not what they want to do.
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They want to commit a sexual crime, which, by the way,
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this man did against this thirteen year old girl. Now, um, do
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you go so far as to teach Okay, if they're pulling up in the
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car, run the other way, make them back up in traffic absolutely,
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or run away from the road where they can't drive at all. Don't run
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down the road, run, don't run parallel with the with the traffic.
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Screaming the whole time, scream draw as much attention to yourself as you possibly
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can. He's got a gun trying to you know, backet whatever or whatever,
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but screaming and yell and draw as much attention as you can. Go.
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Get as far away from him as you can, you know, and
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as fast as you can. This little girl ended up in California. This
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guy from Texas took her to California, sexually assaulted and raped her along the
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way. But she was able to get help when he made a mistake and
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she was able to signal for help and he was arrested and she's safe now,
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but she was a victim, still still affected for life by this.
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Absolutely such a rare scenario. For the getting away part, she lived to
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tell. Living to tell the story is the rare part. And that's that,
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you know, Like I said, I will I would rather. I'm
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I don't run very well. I'm I'm old and slow and fat, and
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I'm but I would still rather take my chances of getting shot at or shot
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than somebody forcibly taking me away. We talk about screaming and yelling and so
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forth. Are there devices now that you can give your children that make just
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an insanely loud noise that can help. Yeah, there's some of those alarm
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personal alarms out there that do that. I don't because some I mean,
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let's be honest, some of the whistle. A whistle is a great thing.
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Some adults get scared in a circumstance and they can't talk. They can't
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speak because of fear. And I just think of a child maybe not even
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being able to summon the breath. Yeah, oh, for sure. But
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there are such things. There are such things. You just the whistle.
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It has a lanyard that you pull a lanyard on, you know, you
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pull on the lanyard and it activates it. It's extremely loud, high pitched
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U siren in a little small compartment. I don't know the name of them,
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but you probably can google search it. Personal alarm there, they make
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them. Some that you can hook up to like a motel door that if
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the door opens. This is the same product. It's just your carrying it
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on your person. Like I said, a regular coach's whistle, you know,
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on a breakaway lanyard is not a bad idea. And kids now where
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these things wear stuff all the time. It's cool. Yeah, you know.
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Thirty six minutes after Katie Johnson with me Talent Training Group Talent Outdoors,
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all I'm gonna tell you is if you don't listen to Talent Outdoors, you
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are you are missing an hour of glory when especially when when Charlie and JD
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just start chatting about life, their lives, the things that happened to them.
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It's fine, man, life is good. Yeah. I wish we
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were talking in the break the proliferation of stories of I think you you use
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the term vigilanteism is there. It's growing. Yes. First let's talk about
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why. Why do you think that is? Is it because of the obvious?
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I think it's I think it's because you have, nationally, you have
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a substantial lack of um people being held accountable for criminal activity. District Attorney's
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not punishing, yes, low bail, all that stuff. Yeah, it's
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it's no punishment, no enforcement, low levels of you know, law enforcement
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agencies nationally or just all across the country or experiencing staffing shortages because nobody wants
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to go into law enforcement anything. Bad guys know that, don't they And
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oh absolutely if they don't. If they're not, If you're a bad guy
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and you're not seeing a marked car in wherever you are with some degree of
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regularity, you're going to become more emboldened by that. You know, law
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enforcement agencies are stressed right now, call volume versus people to handle the calls.
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If you drove through it when you were patrolling, if you drove through
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a neighborhood, would you, occasionally, knowing that there were some people there,
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you knew the likelihood of there being some bad activity in that particular neighborhood,
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would you double back almost immediately just to see if they were counting on
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you driving through and not coming back. Yeah, you get the bad areas,
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the areas that through your experience and through your you know, through your
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daily travels, if you go to the same street or the same set of
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streets, or the same general vicinity for calls for service on a regular basis,
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you should be as a law enforce and officer, concentrating on those areas
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that makes sense, so that that's where you're going to spend the majority of
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your time for two different reasons. Ones, You're you're getting calls for service
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in that area, so you're you're going to be there, and hopefully when
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you get done handling that call for service, you're going to spend a little
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depending on what the call is, you're going to spend a little extra time
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in that areas. But are the jerks that are paying attention, are they
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sophisticated enough to say, all right, they've made their run through this neighborhood
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for the next four hours, we're gonna get back to work. And did
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you ever try to beat that by doubling background? Yeah, you don't ever
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want to. You know, as a law enforce and officer, you didn't
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want to ever establish a pattern. You know, we train new recruits to
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not be predictable about where where you park, what you do, where you
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go, that kind of thing. You don't want to you want to change
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it up. But you know, you tend to see law enforce and ulcers
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concentrated in areas where they're needed the most if they're doing the job right.
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People are tracking their cars now, they're putting these devices on their cars.
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Apple makes them bad guys use them to track you. But we're seeing incidents
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now of people tracking down car thieves and it doesn't often end very well for
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anybody. I want to talk about that we come back. JD Johnson with
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me from the Talent Training Group. What the law says about what you can
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do when you have your car stolen, Because there's some bad mistakes being made
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and it's in the news and we're gonna talk about it next. JD Johnson
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with me from the Talent Training Group and of course Talent Outdoors Saturdays. I
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would just subscribe to the podcast. You'll never miss an episode. We're talking
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about vigilanteism and specifically I want to talk j D. Two scenarios. Number
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one, because cars get stolen, and in certain communities it's on the rise
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in a significant way. Cars stolen in your presence. You're in the shopping
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center and someone just takes advantage of being gone from the car, you're coming
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back and you see somebody about the drive away in your car or your driveway.
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What can you do? Call nine one one that's what you can do.
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What can't you do? You can't, Well, you can confront them
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if I don't recommend it, But you can say, hey, that's my
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car, get out of my car. I see you. You know you
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can't use any kind of force to protect any kind of property in the state
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of Florida. Can you? If you are if you are carrying a firearm,
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can you pull the firearm from your waistband, your pocket, your holster
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and present it? Well? Can you? And should you? You?
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Can you? I would say no, because there is unless there is some
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type of imminent threat of bodily harm to you, any bodily harm to you.
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If there is no eminent you're taking a high risk of being charged,
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potentially with aggravated assault. If you read it the letter of the law.
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You can use equal force to Like if somebody grabs your purse and I'm just
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completely offense, somebody grabs your purse, you can use an equal amount of
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force to retain your purse or your bag. You can even you can even
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strike and hit and all those things. Fighting over an object like that a
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car is a little difficult to do. Um. I wouldn't recommend standing in
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front of the car, because even if you may have a right to stand
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in front of the car, that's a really good way to get run over
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and hurt. They're they're driving a three thousand pound weapon. And we're not
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talking about an armed carjacking, which is a whole different story, whole different
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just car theft, car theft theft of any kind. You are much better
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off to allow it to happen. Get as good a description as you can,
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get on the phone as fast as you can with nine one one.
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And it's a it's it's a red four D f one fifty and it went
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that away. Um, you know it's We are required most of the time
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in Florida to have some type of insurance, have insurance on your car,
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over your car if it's stolen. Uh, you know whatever coverage, comprehensive
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coverage or whatever. Um, it's property, it's not it's not life threatening.
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Don't put your life in danger. And the drawing of a firearm escalates
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things immediately, have escalated things dramatically. And I and you know whether or
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not you're gonna get charged with anything. It's probably unlikely that you would get
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charged with something. Now if you discharge the firearm, that's a whole different
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thing. That's that's deadly force, whether you hit anything or not, that
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you have used deadly force to prevent a property crime, and that will get
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you. That will get you in a lot of trouble. The next stage
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of this story is when those iPhone air tags whatever they call them eye tags,
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or they're put on cars. Someone had their car stolen, It's happened
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several times in the news in recent months. They track their vehicle down,
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then the confrontation happens. Guns start being fired, and obviously, if you
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decide to pick that fight and someone raises a firearm at you, you have
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every right to defend yourself. But there are people that are killing other people
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that took their car and they were not being shot at, they were not
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being threatened. Yeah, and it's just a all around bad situation to when
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you go out there and do that. And there have been instances of the
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car owner winning the gunfight. There have been instances of the car owner losing
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the gunfight. And unfortunately, the situation that you always have with gunfights is,
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uh, you always the risk of death is always great, no matter
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how much you train, how good you are, if if at all possible.
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You want to avoid it. You know, that's the first rule of
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a gunfight, not don't get in one, right you know? Um,
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actually first rule, lets bring a gun. But you get what I'm saying.
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I know it's avoid if we can avoid it possible? Is that all
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possible? And it's still just a car Let law enforcement handle it. If
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you've got a tag on there and you know exactly precisely where it is,
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and you can translate that information to the to the dispatcher whoever you're speaking to
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on the phone. Uh, do so and let law enforcement handle it.
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I promise you they went to work that day hoping something good like that would
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happen. You know. Uh, is the technology exists these days where someone
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can take that that tag ID number, give it to law enforcement and they
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can track it. I don't know. I've been out, I've been retired
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for ten years. Press. The technology has come a long way since then,
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That's true. I would assume that, Yeah, I would assume that
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there is some type of way to do it. Here's our tag number,
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and they've got a program that allows them to jump on board and tag it
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maybe and follow the tag. I don't know, I'll find out. It'd
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be interesting to know, all right, Thanks, as always, my pleasure,
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enjoyed it. The idea of folks keeping you out of trouble, keeping
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your kids safe. Personal defense on the Morning Show with Preston's Got