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Jaguars Reporters: Monday, March 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It's clear if you're going to get better that you
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Speaker 1: need to address somewhere on the line to take it
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Speaker 1: from a unit that has been good, to take that too. Great.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A
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Speaker 1: Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and j P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrack Jack Wars Reporters presented by t I A A
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Speaker 1: Bank starts right now. Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters podcast.
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Speaker 1: It's Monday, March fourteen, j P. Shadrick, Ashland Sullivan, John
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Speaker 1: Osier and A busy week begins on this Monday noon. Monday,
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Speaker 1: the negotiating period begins Wednesday at four o'clock Eastern is
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Speaker 1: the start of the league year and the opening of
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Speaker 1: free agency. Ashland, I think we're gonna have a week
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Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. I think so too. I think Thursday
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Speaker 1: is gonna be very busy. Having money is a good
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Speaker 1: thing and it's time to spend it. Dang it didn't
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Speaker 1: had an Ashland statement, ain't it? Having money is a
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Speaker 1: good thing? And I thank you guys, knowing a lot
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Speaker 1: of people who listen to this now. This is one
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Speaker 1: of the stranger weeks for us on Jaguars dot com
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Speaker 1: because there's a tornado of events going on on Monday
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Speaker 1: and Tuesday that we know about and can't really write
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Speaker 1: about yet because nothing becomes official until Wednesday at four.
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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about it, we'll speculate, and fans will
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Speaker 1: get angry because weeks like this, Remember JP, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're never gonna go exactly how all fans want because
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Speaker 1: there's thirty two teams out there going for how many players,
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Speaker 1: and every fan has their opinion on what they should do.
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Speaker 1: So how did they satisfy that by going, you know,
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Speaker 1: if I do what you want to do and Ashton
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Speaker 1: wants to do is it's probably gonna be two different things.
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Speaker 1: So that's what we're up against this week. So what
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Speaker 1: it is as a lot of people on social media
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Speaker 1: just following it the last few days, you know, are
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Speaker 1: up at arms. That's the way people do on social
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Speaker 1: media anyway. But then when a Marie Cooper gets traded,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of Jaguar fans they're like, oh, what
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Speaker 1: in the world, Come on, Jaguars do something. But that's
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Speaker 1: not the case. There there are some other names that
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Speaker 1: could be out there in free agency, but here in
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Speaker 1: Trent Ballky talk about it at the combine. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a position group they go after one way or another,
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Speaker 1: whether it's free agency, draft or both. Yeah, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure they did do something with a Maria Cooper. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure they were interested. But you have to remember we
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Speaker 1: were talking about before the podcast that there's so many
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Speaker 1: teams and you gotta put yourself in the player's shoes.
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Speaker 1: Do they want to go to a contender? Are the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars not there right now? It's it's a lot of
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Speaker 1: politics that goes in Twitter. So I see fans on
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Speaker 1: Twitter like, why didn't they do anything? Well, they probably
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Speaker 1: did something, but the player has a say in this
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Speaker 1: as well. So it's meeting in the middle. A lot
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Speaker 1: of times. The tone of the inbox was I thought
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Speaker 1: they were gonna be aggressive and other not being aggressive.
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Speaker 1: This was one player And I understand fans emotions because
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago there was this list of Davante Adams
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Speaker 1: and Godwin and and there uh Mike Williams from from
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Speaker 1: let Me See San Diego, Los Angeles. So there's this
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Speaker 1: perception almost like the Jaguars have been standing by and
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Speaker 1: doing things well, except for Amri Cooper. Those were franchise
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Speaker 1: tagged players that the jagguars couldn't control. From what you
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Speaker 1: read from reports, they were interested in Amari Cooper. It
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Speaker 1: appears to me like there was probably talk about how
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Speaker 1: much contract each team was willing to take on of
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Speaker 1: Amari Coopers, because in a trade you can negotiate that.
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Speaker 1: My guesses, and this is purely speculation, there was a
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Speaker 1: number that they were willing to be on the hook
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Speaker 1: for a Maria Cooper for and at the point that
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Speaker 1: that number didn't make any more sense than you move on.
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Speaker 1: Is that being aggressive? I mean, you know, it felt
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Speaker 1: aggressive within reason, which is what you have to do
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Speaker 1: in free agency, whether fans like that or not. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And Trent Bulky was very clear whenever he said the
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Speaker 1: word aggressive from whenever he was asked about his stance
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Speaker 1: on free agency, he said, yeah, yeah, aggressive, But let's
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Speaker 1: not forget we're not over paying either. He was very
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Speaker 1: clear with the numbers attached with that you can only
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Speaker 1: be so aggressive, and it's clear to him that he's
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Speaker 1: not going to overpay for something he doesn't believe in. Well,
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Speaker 1: you can be aggressive, but you don't just be the
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Speaker 1: drunk in the bar who want back off the fight.
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Speaker 1: You can be the guy who's sort of don't be
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Speaker 1: that guy is in on it. But then you always
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Speaker 1: see the guy who at some point, like even his
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Speaker 1: friends can't stop him. We can't be that guy to
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Speaker 1: leave him. So I had a tweet this morning actually
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Speaker 1: to me about Davante Adams. Hey, he's not going to
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Speaker 1: sign the tag, go ahead. So the and then the
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Speaker 1: reports this morning after that actually that Adams apparently will
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Speaker 1: not play on the franchise tag, he says, and the
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Speaker 1: sides he and Green Bay remained far apart on a
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Speaker 1: long term deal. First of all, if he's franchise tagged,
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Speaker 1: you can negotiate with another team, but that other team
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Speaker 1: has to give up two first round picks and the
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Speaker 1: contract on top of that. That's not gonna happen. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen here. But Adams, I think
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Speaker 1: you just got to kind of put that one away
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Speaker 1: to at some point something will happen in Green Bay
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Speaker 1: if the quarterbacks back, Davante Adams was always going to
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Speaker 1: be back there, right A. You never see teams. I
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Speaker 1: think it's been I could be wrong in this. I
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Speaker 1: can remember maybe once or twice in the entire history
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Speaker 1: of the tag that a team has negotiated with a
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Speaker 1: franchised player. There's two kinds of franchises. One you cannot
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Speaker 1: negotiate with, one you can. I'm assuming that Davante Adams
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Speaker 1: is on the one that you can. That's what That's
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Speaker 1: what most teams do. Um it costs two first round picks.
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Speaker 1: I think Sean Gilbert back in the the way way
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Speaker 1: back this is in the mid nineties may have signed
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Speaker 1: for that, and maybe a handful of others, but it's
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Speaker 1: rare because it's just too expensive for a veteran player.
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Speaker 1: Do you have two picks and the contract is blue?
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Speaker 1: To your point, JP, I think you do have to
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Speaker 1: put it away because even if green Bay and and
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Speaker 1: Devonte wouldn't reach a deal, it's not like that is
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Speaker 1: going to be determined tomorrow on this and you can't
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Speaker 1: have your free agent plans on hold. My senses, that
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Speaker 1: sort of talk with green Bay and Adams could go
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Speaker 1: on until deal. So that smells like that a little bit.
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Speaker 1: And realistically, do you really think he's not gonna be
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Speaker 1: playing for the Packers next year? In some capacity? This
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Speaker 1: seems like stance on both sides. You have it. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to touch that. Stay away from their names
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Speaker 1: that have popped up. Christian Kirk the last couple of days,
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Speaker 1: there's been kind of on social media. Allen Robinson, we
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Speaker 1: know him very well from the Bears, Juju Smith Schuster
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Speaker 1: schedule to become a free a from the Steelers. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there are some names out there now. The list is
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Speaker 1: not super long of guys at the very Like John said,
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Speaker 1: it used to be really flashy in the past couple
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Speaker 1: of days there there. So I get fans urgency, like
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Speaker 1: go get someone right now. I get that, But you know,
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Speaker 1: it's got to be working on both sides. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I've said since the beginning of this that wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: to me, felt like it was going to be a
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Speaker 1: much tougher fix than a lot of people have thought.
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Speaker 1: Just signing a couple of guys six weeks ago, because
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Speaker 1: the elite guys are going to go free agency and
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Speaker 1: then you are realistically gonna the best way to address
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Speaker 1: this is really through the draft. But that's not necessarily
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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, All Pro guy playing for this team
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Speaker 1: in two if you go that route, is that ideal? No?
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Speaker 1: But I think they'll improve. But I don't think they're
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Speaker 1: going you know you, realistically, we're not going to get uh,
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Speaker 1: who's best for really, Davante app You're gonna get Davante
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Speaker 1: Adams and the second best guy to be playing in
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville next year because no team from really dead. Our
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Speaker 1: Cooper is not that guy either. By the way, now,
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Speaker 1: if you want flash let me tell you interior linemen
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Speaker 1: are flashy because can be right. All the ones I've
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Speaker 1: known most are most are when and he's already, he's here,
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Speaker 1: he's locked in. Don't worry about him. He's going nowhere. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli this morning on radio mentioned Brandon Schurf. He's
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Speaker 1: a five time Pro bowler with Washington. He hasn't played
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Speaker 1: a full sixteen game since the sixteen season. It's been
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Speaker 1: a little while. He was the first team All Pro
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in thirteen games, fifth overall
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Speaker 1: pick back in but he's been banged up a little
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Speaker 1: bit over his time. But he has a track record
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Speaker 1: of being very good when he's out there and on
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Speaker 1: the field. And guess what. Andrew Norwell is a free
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Speaker 1: agent coming up a j and as a free agent
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Speaker 1: coming up, there are some holes in the interior there.
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Speaker 1: So I feel even though he's not the most available,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like that's worth it to spend the money
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Speaker 1: on that. You have the depth that guard if you
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Speaker 1: need it's that's going to be expensive, but you're kind
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Speaker 1: of in a pinch where you need that position bad
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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and it's gotten to the point again,
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Speaker 1: twenty years ago you sort of only saw maybe even
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Speaker 1: ten years ago, only saw left tackles get the free
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Speaker 1: agent money or uh maybe maybe a center, but really
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Speaker 1: you know it was gonna be left tackle and that's
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Speaker 1: where teams felt like they had to spend. That has
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Speaker 1: changed to the point where I teams do put a
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Speaker 1: premium on guard. Uh. It's it's clear if you're going
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Speaker 1: to get better on his franchise that you need to
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Speaker 1: address somewhere on the line to take it from a
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Speaker 1: unit that has been good to take that too great.
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Speaker 1: So let me I see you guys this if if
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Speaker 1: at the end of this week you have of I'm
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Speaker 1: just gonna throw the name out there, Christian Kirk, who
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Speaker 1: there were reports yesterday that they're going to make a
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Speaker 1: a hard push for it feels like that might happen. Kirk,
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Speaker 1: Surf and one of the best three edge rushers. It's
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Speaker 1: a great week. Yeah, I mean it is that aggressive?
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Speaker 1: JP is that? I mean, would everybody be happy all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you No, nobody's gonna be happy. Happiness
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Speaker 1: is off the table. But what and fans are are
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Speaker 1: wanting them to be aggressive? To me, that's aggressive. That
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Speaker 1: makes sense, and there is a it's very hard and
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Speaker 1: free chid to get pie in the sky. Remember as
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Speaker 1: much as we laud and as it fades into memory,
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Speaker 1: there's this gold aura around the two thousand seventeen class,
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Speaker 1: like because that's all this franchise has had. After they
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Speaker 1: signed that class, there was optimism, but it wasn't like
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Speaker 1: everybody was saying, Okay, that's it, they're going to the
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Speaker 1: super Bowl. I mean, you're still going to have questions
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Speaker 1: after any class. But to me, the class that I
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Speaker 1: just listed off, if it's something along those lines, that's
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Speaker 1: aggressive and they've gotten better within the framework of what
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Speaker 1: is smart to do. If you get Allen Robinson or
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, I think you're aggressive this week because you
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Speaker 1: need it. If you pay those guys, then you're aggressive. Right.
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Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment and get to the
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Speaker 1: players that are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents that
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Speaker 1: have been on the Jaguars. It's not just a few guys.
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Speaker 1: You've got some other holes to fill as well, and
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Speaker 1: only a limited amount of money to do it. Renewed now,
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Speaker 1: Roar later, and the time is now to a New
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Speaker 1: York two Jaguars season tickets. Season ticket members who are
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Speaker 1: new by March seventeenth will also be in a delin
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Speaker 1: a trip to Canon, Ohio as the Jags take on
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Speaker 1: the Raiders in the Hall of Fame game. Plus Tony
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Speaker 1: Wasselli will be in trined in the Pro Football Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame. This is the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. Welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. J P. Shadrick, Ashland, Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: John Osia, the dailies place schedule filling out for the
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Speaker 1: spring and summer. Ashland, get your calendar on your computer
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Speaker 1: here ready, Okay, you're ready. April eight brothers osborn April nineteenth,
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Speaker 1: Little Dirk, John, You'll be a thing. Tim McGraw May sixth,
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Speaker 1: Erica Badoo and plenty of others. May seventh, the offspring John,
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Speaker 1: you already said you're gonna be at that one two
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Speaker 1: nights at the Lumineers and May and then it's the
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Speaker 1: older crowd. Let's say May twenty of Sting Chicago, Dewey
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Speaker 1: Brothers in June, and then Dave Matthews Band two nights
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Speaker 1: at Black Crow's Junal eleventh. I could go on and
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Speaker 1: on and on Information Daily's place dot com. Yes, I'm
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Speaker 1: excited for them. They were disgruntled for a while with
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Speaker 1: each other. I think Chris Robinson did his own thing
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Speaker 1: for a while. I think he's back now with the band,
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Speaker 1: and they're they're kind of doing the we they always
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Speaker 1: I was a v H one behind the music jounkie
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Speaker 1: back in the day, and either Black Crows was terrific
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Speaker 1: because the two brothers can't stand each other, but they
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Speaker 1: liked you. I mean it's the classic. And uh, Steve Gorman,
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Speaker 1: who I think was the drummer, I happen to know
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Speaker 1: his brother or cousin not very well. So there you go.
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Speaker 1: See he's had backstage access. John is gonna be back.
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Speaker 1: He's a big dealtage. We're not breaking any news here.
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Speaker 1: Their first album was really good now, yeah, really good. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I think they're doing most of that album on this tour.
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Speaker 1: That was to shake your money maker tours. Remember it well,
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Speaker 1: yes it's a hit. It's still good today, it's yes,
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Speaker 1: it is held up. Jaguars have fifteen players scheduled to
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Speaker 1: become unrestricted free agents. Here's the list, according to John
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Speaker 1: Oshan Jaguars dot Com. Guard a J. Can Hey, that's
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Speaker 1: you a J. Can, Laurenti mccraig, James O'Shaughnessy, defensive tackle
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Speaker 1: Taven Brian. Since the Jags did not take the fifth
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Speaker 1: year option, wide receiver d J. Chark Jr. Cornerback Trey Herndon,
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Speaker 1: guard Andrew Norwell, offensive lineman Will Richardson, defensive lineman Adam Gotsis,
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Speaker 1: wide receiver table On Austin, tight end Jacob Hollister, cornerback
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Speaker 1: Nevin Lawson, wide receiver la Kwan Treadwell, defensive lineman jahad
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Speaker 1: Board and linebacker Damian Wilson. Three players are restricted free agents,
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Speaker 1: Andrew Winger, Dakota Allen, and Dario gunbal Wally. That's what
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Speaker 1: by my math, eight teen players that um are going
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Speaker 1: to be free in two days. That's about the turnover
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Speaker 1: usually have in the NFL these days. I mean it's
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Speaker 1: every roster turns over. When you have a new regime,
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Speaker 1: you expect turnover. Um. Yeah, I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: the players on that list, I'm thinking maybe Treadwell, uh,
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Speaker 1: Damien Wilson, certain guys like that were had the team
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Speaker 1: been successful last year and you had same regime, there's
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Speaker 1: probably three or four names on there that you would
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Speaker 1: expect back. Uh. With new regime, everything is re examined.
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Speaker 1: They weren't successful, so it is a time where you
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Speaker 1: bring in very possibly a younger player to replace the
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Speaker 1: Treadwell and they could love tread Well, but a for instance,
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Speaker 1: younger player to replace the Damien Wilson. Uh. Those are
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Speaker 1: the kind of free agents to get resigned when a
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Speaker 1: team goes nine and seven, uh, nine and eight, ten
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Speaker 1: and seven. When a team goes three and fourteen and
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Speaker 1: you're turning over, those are the guys that that you
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Speaker 1: often move on from. So interesting, I think you can
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Speaker 1: make a case for a couple of those guys that
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Speaker 1: you gotta have them back, though, especially for depth reasons
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Speaker 1: like a Trey Herned for example. I know we're not
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Speaker 1: the flashy guy, but for depth reasons at this cornerback
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Speaker 1: position group, Yeah, I think gets to a deal with
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Speaker 1: Trayer and example like that I think you can make
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Speaker 1: a case for a couple of those guys to do that.
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Speaker 1: Like Will Richardson, I don't know. He's been able to
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Speaker 1: swing and play different positions in his career and pinches
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Speaker 1: when he really kind of needs. So hasn't been out
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Speaker 1: there a lot at this time, but he's a guy
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Speaker 1: who was drafted here and it's kind of worked his
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Speaker 1: way in a few different plays. Adams has been a
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Speaker 1: good player last couple of years solid. So now those
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Speaker 1: fifteen I would expect three or four to be on
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Speaker 1: the table to return. The problem becomes, uh, as you
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Speaker 1: guys know, once noon hits on Monday, and there's a
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Speaker 1: bird in the hand, if if the if the Vikings
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Speaker 1: come after treadwell, yeah, I have no idea, but you know,
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's hard to get those
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Speaker 1: guys back once noon hits. Uh. Now that now the
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Speaker 1: lower profile guys, which a lot of these guys are,
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Speaker 1: it's more conceivable to get them back because they're more
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Speaker 1: second tier guys. You might see news on them not
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Speaker 1: this week but next week. So but you know, before
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Speaker 1: it happens, because once everything gets going, then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, guys are gone. Uh, if it happens that
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Speaker 1: they're gone. A J has been around here a long time,
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Speaker 1: good guy. If he's indeed not back, I'll miss him.
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Speaker 1: And he's been a good starter on this team for
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Speaker 1: a long long time. It looks like Andrew Norwell maybe
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Speaker 1: a guy they uh, they part ways with. So there's
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Speaker 1: some guys on that list. They've been around here a
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Speaker 1: long time. It may not be back. So and we
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Speaker 1: haven't talked about d JR. I was going to get
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Speaker 1: right into that next. That's a second round pick who
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Speaker 1: went to a Pro Bowl, who broke an ankle last year.
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Speaker 1: And you know, to your point, John, if he gets free,
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Speaker 1: he's one of the top names and free agency around
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Speaker 1: the league at wide receiver. Actually, yeah, that's I'm team
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Speaker 1: of figure it out and find a contract for d J. Chark.
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Speaker 1: I just have this fear that he's going to go
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Speaker 1: explode somewhere. We all know what's gonna happen. I am
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Speaker 1: team keep him here. But I get especially with wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: even in l Kwan Treadwill, with all these guys getting signed,
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Speaker 1: it's very possible that they go somewhere else because I
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be wanted around the entire league. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: to me, if there's not news on DJ by noon,
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Speaker 1: it would be surprising if he's If he's not back,
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Speaker 1: and I's it over and over again for the last
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Speaker 1: two months. That was a really, really tricky situation the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars were in because I'm like Schlnn, I personally believe
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Speaker 1: his year five through year eight you're going to be
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Speaker 1: a lot better than year one through four. So there
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Speaker 1: is a risk of letting him go. At the same time,
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Speaker 1: if I'm Trent Balky or Doug Peterson, I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: this saying one Pro Bowl season out of four, inconsistency
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. When you put the pros
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Speaker 1: and cons on the white board, it's a risk to
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Speaker 1: bring him back, and I would do it. I think
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be very successful. I love the kid, but
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Speaker 1: I can also understand from a if you're trying to
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Speaker 1: develop a plan point of view, how you could move on. So,
18:45
Speaker 1: depending on the site you look, the Jacks have anywhere
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Speaker 1: between thirty five million thirty nine millions, somewhere in the thirties.
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Speaker 1: Right now, it's fifth or six in the league, depending
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Speaker 1: on what There's a couple of different websites that track,
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Speaker 1: this kind of thing in terms of cap space with
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Speaker 1: the jack So, okay, you can go and make a
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Speaker 1: splash or two. You still gotta pay these other guys
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Speaker 1: and fill some roster spots, and then you gotta save
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Speaker 1: some money for your draft picks too. They got a
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Speaker 1: bunch of draft picks coming in. At least they have
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Speaker 1: the picks right now. We'll see if they turn into
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Speaker 1: actual players. But if you're going to pay these guys,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta leave a good ten million just
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Speaker 1: on hand for the draft picks, right and you can't.
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Speaker 1: It's vogue now to say, well, just just spend, just
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Speaker 1: be the rams, just you know, take chances on veterans.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're at that spot yet. Um
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Speaker 1: to me, you take chances, you mortgage the future when
19:41
Speaker 1: you're close. Maybe it's the old school guy, and maybe
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Speaker 1: I just believe right now, you build, you build smart.
19:48
Speaker 1: If you spend foolishly now, then it's tougher to spend
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Speaker 1: wisely in a year or two when you're ready to spend.
19:58
Speaker 1: And it does roll for forward and you can say, well,
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Speaker 1: you've got thirty seven minutes. I was a cap space
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Speaker 1: use it all. Well, if you use it all and
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Speaker 1: get to that point where all of a sudden you're
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Speaker 1: sort of trying to renegotiate every year and trying to
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Speaker 1: manage the cap every year. Then all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: you get a situation like Dallas where they're having late
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Speaker 1: good players go. So it does eventually come back to
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Speaker 1: where it costs you depth. It costs you in different situations.
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Speaker 1: So it's not as easy as just we'll spending the
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Speaker 1: cap every year. It's it's I wish it was that easy,
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Speaker 1: but it's not totally agree. They're not They're not close
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Speaker 1: enough where they're one to two pieces away. And I
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Speaker 1: know people will go back to sen But you even
20:38
Speaker 1: look at that seen roster. They had the for Nets,
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Speaker 1: the Ramsey, the splash players. You only have a couple
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Speaker 1: of those guys right now. I don't think anyone can
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Speaker 1: truly believe, oh, if we sign these two guys were
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Speaker 1: a contender right away. It had a really good defense.
20:52
Speaker 1: In two thousand and sixteen, they got overlooked in a sense.
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Speaker 1: They had Kelvin Smith, they had a unique in jail
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Speaker 1: And and Miles and Malik Jackson already there, uh pause
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Speaker 1: was already there, you know, so they had a defense
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Speaker 1: that it was conceivable. You look at and say, okay,
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Speaker 1: if we add pieces to Sean Gibson had been signed
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Speaker 1: the previous year, so the shell was there and you
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Speaker 1: had and you had to supplement it. It feels like
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Speaker 1: they're not at that point on either side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: We're just adding free is going to put them over
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Speaker 1: the top. It feels like this is a year where
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Speaker 1: they can hope to get, you know, or maybe a
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Speaker 1: little over and then one more year sort of built.
21:39
Speaker 1: I could be wrong with it. I've been wrong before,
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Speaker 1: j but you've seen me to be wrong a lot.
21:42
Speaker 1: That's impossible. No, a lot or that I'd like to admit.
21:48
Speaker 1: Of course, so they have a busy couple of days.
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Speaker 1: Of course. Negotiation window begins Monday noon Eastern time. The
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Speaker 1: new League Year, Happy New Year, everybody begins Wednesday at
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Speaker 1: four o'clock Eastern time, and then Thursday, St. Patrick's Day.
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Speaker 1: That's a big day for John Osier Ashwe He's gonna
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Speaker 1: be busy here. There will be no partying allowed. He's
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Speaker 1: been very busy stadium. Hopefully the press will wrap up
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Speaker 1: by about six. Yeah, right, that'd be good. They can
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Speaker 1: go straight on over to the good point two. All right.
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Speaker 1: That'll do it for Jaguars Reporters. Our producers Joe Fortunato,
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